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Covino & Rich are in for Colin Cowherd live from Media Row in New Orleans ahead of the Big Game! The guys talk with Rams WR Puka Nacua to get his thoughts on the potential huge changes coming to the Rams' roster this offseason. 49ers LB Fred Warner joins the guys to break down his expectations for the Niners to return to the playoffs next year. Plus, 2x Super Bowl Champion Vince Wilfork stops by to reflect on his memories of the Big Game!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
What an honor, What an honor to fill in for
Colin on The Herd.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Super Bowl Week, New Orleans, So pumped.

Speaker 5 (00:32):
We're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports Radio again Infracolin on
the Herd Media Row, New Orleans, super Bowl fifty nine,
super pumped to be here, and we have an action
packed show, a triple doozy of awesome.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
You're joined. You bought it, the triple doozy. I just
made that up.

Speaker 6 (00:50):
You like it?

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Vince Wilfork stopping by, excited about that. Fred Warner stopping
by as a Niners fan. I'm abnormally pumped about that.
Relax man, keep it in the pantalonas.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'll try. I'll yeah, no slow roasters, too early for
all that.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
And we're joined by Pooka Nkoua.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
And when you think about it, we got Pooka and
Luca in the news, so lots to talk about today
on Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
You know what what's interesting is pookin the co is
a great guest to have today because there's a lot
of ram news, a lot like Matthew Stafford was even
in the news today, like are they possibly thinking about
moving him?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
And that just makes zero sense. Yeah, you got to
bring that up with him too. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
We have lots of questions for Pooka Nakoula, so stick
around and get involved. Thank you guys for hanging out
with us. Going to turn your hump day into a
hump night. And not only three hours of Colin, we
got two hours of our regular show two to four
on the West, five to seven on the East Covino
and Rich, so five hours of fun from Radio Row
and just as Pooka approaches, want to explain that the

(02:03):
vibe is so good today, starting to build on this Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
We were here Monday and Tuesday. Obviously it's a little slow.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
People are starting to come now getting excited for the
super Bowl. There's a buzz in the air. I feel
the celebrities are walking around. Spotty was in the bathroom
with Gronk earlier. I mean, he just happened to see
him in there. I don't know if he was gazing
or anything, but look, the stars are here. Stars. We're
gonna talk to him and we're gonna have a lot

(02:30):
of Ferris and I see Pooka Nacoy Mark.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
The Great New Orleans Saint was getting coffee with us
at start.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah, that's the that's the vibe of super Bowl New
Orleans again. Super pumped to be here. I'm Steve Cavino.
That is Rich Davis, Danny g super producing.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Man. He's handsome. It's great to see him again. He's
getting his headphones on.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Let's welcome Puka, Nicoua's and Rich show in for Colin
on the Herd.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Thanks for your time, man, man, appreciate you guys. How
you do It has been a good week so far.
It's been great.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
I want to ask you that because I know you
wish you were playing, but you're here and you look excited.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Everybody's excited to see you. What's it like for you
being here?

Speaker 7 (03:11):
Shoot, I got yeah, it's just trying to get a
grasp of what the offseason looks like now going into
year two, and stuff like that. But yeah, I definitely
hopefully yeah, planning on not being here next year, at
least doing a different type of media. Hopefully I'll get
to wear one of the jumps sins. I just barely
saw those guys in and the Rams will be ready
to roll nice.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Now.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
How does it feel when you know it's only a
few weeks ago, you know the ball is to you
on a play that could you know, win the game?
Do you still carry that like you were still close
the team that's in the Super Bowl. We were in
Philly in the snow and you got that close. Is
that have you mentally moved past that or is it
still like, you know, bothering you.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I definitely still bother me.

Speaker 7 (03:47):
I think it will probably bother me the rest of
the offseason, and it'll be the motivator for the many
motivators that come in the off season. But yeah, it's
been kind of I think about two years in a
row how we finished off in Detroit, our last offensive
possession was the last passed on to me, and then
the same thing here in Philly. So I can't let
that happen again. If the opportunities are coming my way, man,
letting down. Our team is one of not is not

(04:08):
the best feeling.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yo, Pooka. I got to ask, because you know, you
get that close.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
The team that's in the super Bowl on Sunday could
very well have been beaten by you guys at home
a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
What's with the Cooper Cup stories? What's with the Matthew
Stafford rumors?

Speaker 4 (04:22):
I saw you haven't put on social media that I
thought that only happened to the NBA.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Have you talked to Cooper Cup?

Speaker 7 (04:27):
Yeah, we've We've had some conversations and Cooper had reached
out to us kind of before that news had broke.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
But I mean, I just feel like I'm so.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
Blessed and I love that guy, Cooper Cup from the
moment I went walked.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Into the RAMS facility.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
He's been the leader and the mentor that I've needed
in my career and.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Also in my life.

Speaker 7 (04:44):
To be able to see him be a father in
the off seasons and what the husband that he is,
and it's been such a cool thing to watch, and
I freaking love that guy. I'm gonna miss being able
to play.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Even your girlfriend her girlfriend then your girlfriend also a
post that she's gonna miss the Cup family.

Speaker 7 (04:58):
Yeah yeah, it's I mean I feel like I try
to be be involved as much as he would allow us,
and uh yeah, just to be a.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Part of that guy's life. And uh yeah, it's been
a it's been an interesting week. I can say, you
guys were very close enough.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
I'm sorry to hear that, because on a personal level,
that's got to suck, not just as a teammate, but
as a friend. He's got how's training going to be
different moving forward because you guys train together.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I think, uh yeah, we still got to figure
it out.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
I got to figure out some of the things and
be like, man, he's been showing me the way I've
been able to watch him and how he prepares for
the football season in season and then how he's prepared
out of season. So trying to make sure that, man,
I take down take down some of those notes for
myself because uh, I got to be able to continue
to get better.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
On a positive note, though, is it a chance for
you to step up and now be a mentor and
maybe grow some more now that he's not there, like
you're the guy?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I think so one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (05:47):
I think that's what it's been the blessing and I
look back on man, what are all the things that
he's taught me? And what are the things that I've learned,
the things that I've already built in my routine of
being able to be with him for the past two years.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
And yeah, just that the man that.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
I've watched lead this this group of the rams are
ganization for for many years and it's an exciting challenge
and it's a privilege to be able to be in
that role.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
We're here with Pookinakua, Cafino and rich In for Colin
on the herd looking handsome, He's got the glasses on,
he's got the hair pulled back, the biggie jeans and everything.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Handsome young man with a lot of money.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Dude, do they train you on how to fight the
ladies off?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
You have a girlfriend? But what sort of like thinking
training into the end?

Speaker 5 (06:24):
I would imagine though, like when you're out and about,
like what's your approach with that. I know a lot
of ladies want to approach a dude if he's at
a party just to take a picture, Like what's your
mindset when it comes to.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
All that stuff?

Speaker 7 (06:35):
I guess now that I think about it, that's probably
is the way to get in and start a conversation
is just to kind of kind of come ask for
a picture, because I would say I'm the worst at
saying no. That's something I haven't learned as well as
I probably should. But I mean football fans, I'm so appreciative.
I grew up in Las Vegas and then in Utah,
so there was no professional sports teams for the idea
to go to see an NFL player for me at

(06:58):
sprouts or something. That's a that's a privilege that these
guys have. But we're living in southern California. So I
never want to rob somebody of that moment because I
didn't have that moment, and I don't want them to
be like, oh, I saw a pooking at the store
and then he said I couldn't take a picture. So
I'm always saying yes. I would say I try not
to avoid anybody. I love the conversations. Everybody always has
to come up with a smile, so I'm like, if
there's somebody's if somebody's come up trying to meet me,

(07:19):
I probably wouldn't be as recipient, but they always got
a big smile on their face.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Pooka, Is there any bigger thrill when you see a
little kid wearing your jersey?

Speaker 7 (07:27):
No, it's it's the best. It's the best feeling. It
still doesn't feel real. And like going to driving to
Sofi Stadium when you're driving through Englewood and you're pulling
up to the game and there are people on the
sidewalk and I got a seventeen jersey, it feels awesome.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Now you're Pooka. LA's now got a Luca. How do
we feel about this? Pook And Looka is her podcast
coming hopefully?

Speaker 7 (07:46):
I'm I don't know if I'm in the market now
for season tickets, but I know you want.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
We see you ball.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
You're a basketball guy as well. How do you feel
about this? Is this big for La?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Do you like this? I love it. I think it's huge.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
I think it's an ability to take Lebron I think
kind of off the ball and have somebody who who's
in there prime right now to be able to lead
the kind of team.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
But it's super excited.

Speaker 7 (08:03):
You have two superstars and somebody who I love good basketball,
So it's gonna be fun to watch jersey or what?
Oh I got you? I posted right after I saw it,
I text. I texted one of our offensive lineman who
wears seventy seven. I was like, I need that jersey
now back.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
You can still slammer. What last time we talked to you,
you were slamming? I still got basketball? Basketball?

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Is?

Speaker 3 (08:21):
I feel like how I try to stay in shape?

Speaker 6 (08:23):
For sure?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
People know you know he's one of the most elite
wide receivers. Do you like to show off your basketball
skills so people like.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh, damn Pooka could play? Who I wish?

Speaker 7 (08:31):
I mean, I always say after I'm done playing football,
I want to go play overseas basketball somewhere. I'm like,
I want to be able to go on a team
where I can get twenty five shots up at night.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
You know, it's funny you brought that up.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
I did want to ask you about that because there
was a story today about JD. Martinez, the baseball player,
wanting to get into pickleball after his career. I mean,
you're young and you're in the middle of it now,
but what do you see yourself doing in the future.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
I would love to play sports if I could continue
to basketball. Yeah, I mean I do play a little pickleball.
I wouldn't say I'm as good to go pro. I've
definitely seen some people in the in the kitchen and
then they go absolutely crazy, and I'm like, I'm not
as good as I think I have.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Really, but continue maybe with something else.

Speaker 7 (09:08):
Yeah, I I I'm ninety five percent sure I'm going
to play overseas basketball somewhere.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I'm good.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
I mean, if I go to a country where everybody's
five to ten, I can go put.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's a good game plan. It's a good game plan.
I could go get twenty five shots up, and that's true, right,
you could be like the Lebron of like another league.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
So I could go pull the Jordan roll and be
the GM coach and the player. I'm like, hey, so
Puka is getting twenty five shots, Like coach, what do
you mean? Or I'm like, pukas getting.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Twenty five shots, that's a great pok.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Let me let me ask you as you you know,
we all look forward to Sunday. I know it's a
little tough not being in the game. Could anyone stop,
say Kwon Barkley when you watch him? I mean, the
Rams have a good defense and there's no one seems
to have an answer for this guy.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
How does it happen? Yeah, I think, man, how is
he funding that hole? That gap?

Speaker 7 (09:55):
How is he doing when they got they got some
big guys up in their front on their offensive line,
And but you think the size and the speed that
he has the ability to have contact balance, and then
the acceleration is something that Man, You're watching the game
live and I'm like, holy Kyle, he was just standing
next to everybody and now he's twenty five yards past everybody.
And the acceleration and the speed he's somebody. It's definitely

(10:15):
super excited to watch. And I think it definitely will
be a challenge to slow him down.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I know it's still a fresh wound.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
But the touchdown he scored against you in the snow
where he's banging his helmet, he said that's his favorite
play of his career.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Do you have favorite plays of your career? Like do
you look back like y'all?

Speaker 4 (10:28):
That was a sweet touch on That was my favorite.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
I think the one our gay are. We had a
screenplay against the Bills this year. It was like a
high spoting game, just walking out on the field and
be like, yo, we got to score points to win
this game. And we were able to match them, and yeah,
we had a screen coup block the guy, we get it,
we get it off one on one and being able
to spurt off and being the end zone and like, yeah,
we kind of sealed the game, even though they pushed
it and they made it feel close a little bit after.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
But that's that was a fun one for me.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
We saw a clip where Jayden Daniels was saying that
he's not that bitter.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
He'll probably watched a Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
You're definitely watching, right or are there mixed feelings like
I don't even want to watch.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Honestly, I haven't watched since we lost, so you're just
turned down.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, this is the off season.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
That's why I feel like that's been some of the
advice I've got from the veterans, stuffing like, man, when
it's enjoy your off season because it goes by fast.
So I figured, if if I'm in the off season,
I'm watching the NBA every eight I got NBA League
Pass now I'm tuned into every game they got.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Watching the NFL must be like it must be like
watching like an X with a new dude, Like.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I don't want to see another one. I don't I don't.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
So do you just show up to a party or
do you have a party? You're not really watching any
tune in for Kendrick Lamar?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Maybe is that? Does that a play? No?

Speaker 6 (11:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
Yeah, I mean I'll see the highlights. I'll be on
Instagram or Twitter after. I'll scroll through and see kind
of how it'll win and see what everybody see the
postgame thoughts.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Okay, you know, and you brought up social media. I
wanted to ask you this too. We're here asking you
a bunch of questions. You're getting hit up constantly by
fans asking you questions.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
How do you tune that out?

Speaker 6 (11:53):
Man?

Speaker 5 (11:53):
How do you you know? How do you choose and
pick and choose what you want to respond to? Do
you take a break?

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Ever?

Speaker 7 (12:00):
Yeah, I guess in the social media era and the
information age that we're in, I think it's it's exciting.
I definitely don't say in football during season, it's hard
to have a lot of interactions with people who aren't
in the football facility just because of time constraints and
stuff like that. So I enjoy the conversations because normally, yeah,
somebody's gonna mention football, But it kind of gets you
out of your little bubble and like man takes you

(12:21):
out and be like, man, I'm a normal human being
who's going through it. If just like them the fires,
I think we're kind of something that kind of put
everything that football into kind of a different perspective for us.
But then also man, like the how just a simple
high or hello, how you doing to somebody walking by?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I can make a difference.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Sean McVay has this odd skill where he doesn't even
like remember every play he's ever coached or run. Do
you have any weird, odd like skills along those lines?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (12:49):
No, I wish I would say. I mean, definitely football players.
I feel like I try to remember. But we were
we were in a meeting, we're installing a new play
and he's like, yeah, go back to September of twenty
sixteen and we're playing the Falcons in in LA and
we're on the right hash at the forty but the
minus forty five, and I'm like, yo.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
What what are you talking about now? Like, how did
you were?

Speaker 7 (13:07):
You just told me I needed to run this route
and you're all the way back in twenty sixteen and
two seconds.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
We're here with pooking a Coola Cavino and Rich you
were talking about how to vets. The veterans are always
saying to enjoy the off season because it goes fast.
How often do you work out and what's your regiment
like in the off season?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yea offseason.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
I mean last year we got to follow Coop and
Kyd and going through that first off season, I mean
we're we're going five days a week and so it's
super said. We'll hit routes and are like our conditioning
and probably two to three times a week.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
And uh and we lift super heavy. Coop cooplus to
lift heavy. So I think that's that's.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
Kind of kind of what I've got used to it.
It makes you feel good and strong through the football season.
Here I wish it I only had to hit guys
who are smaller than me, but that's not just how
it works out. So to be able to go in
there and throw some weight makes you makes you feel
nice and strong, and yeah, when you take your shirt off,
you're like A I do this if weights?

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Are you worried about what you eat though all the
time or are you able to relax and.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
Enjoy I definitely have. I've cut down on it. I
used to be a fast food goer pretty much every day.
I still enjoy a good ten piece chicken that give
me every once in a while. So that's Those are
some of the things that just make me feel good.
It's not necessarily about the food.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Do people recognize you when you roll up at the
fast food? I think so. Sometimes I have said that
man is.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
Man.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I think that was pooking the cool. I've said this before, commo, uh,
poking the cool.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
It has me torn because I'm a Niners fan, but
it's so hard to not root for you that I
have this torn feeling when I think about the NFC
West looking for it to next year. Do you assume
the Niners will bounce back one hundred percent?

Speaker 7 (14:36):
I think it's one of the best organizations in the NFL.
They still got a great quarterback, and they still have
key players I think of somebody. I mean, I'm a
b y U fan, So obviously when they have Fred
Warner and he's coming by later, we're to have so
to be able to see that guy out there on
the football field is something special. So you know that
their defense is always gonna be very strong, and obviously
they got both in the front, so they have playmakers
all around. I think, uh, it just proves to how

(14:58):
hard it is to win an NFL. It really requires
all eleven pieces.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
You know.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Interestingly enough, Fred Warner a guy that's great at punching
out the ball.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
This is like a theme we've been talking about defensively.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
It seems like people are being coached punch out the
ball like they're taking boxing lessons.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Luca's got a stick and move. I was gonna say,
is that more in your mind than ever before?

Speaker 4 (15:18):
That when I get the ball, not not even tackling,
people are going to be trying to punch out the ball.
It seems like it's the emphasis on this, Yeah, one
hundred percent, And especially with how fast the game is,
just it's a it's a it's a moment of inches
of how precise they could be and how precise you
can be so to be able to to try to
move the ball. But then it's also a scary thing
as a ball carrier to be like, man, I don't
I can't transition the ball to the other arm as

(15:38):
soon as I catch to to make it.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
That my my my.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Most valuable hand free because everybody's coming to punch it
in there. They're giving their best shote. They don't even
care if they tackle you. I'm doinging a one two
three combo and they're like, I hope I hit the
ball on all three of them. I'm like, oh my goodness, Pokinakua,
we talked to you before.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
We know you're a Toyota guy, So tell us what's
going on with Toyota man.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, I'm being a Toyota brand. I'm one of the ambassadors.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
I guess would say who's a part of Toyota and
it says a blessing. I drive my super every day
to the facility and it's been so sweet to be
able to part of some of the different programs that
they do.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
We had watch Rams, who's one.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
Of the smaller football programs in the down there in Englewood.
To be able to part of them and supports the
next generation of football players to speak dere Like I
had mentioned, I grew up in Las Vegas and there
were I couldn't go to sprouts and see who my
my my favorite player at the grocery store. So to
be able to represent Toyota and how much they impact
the game of football on the field and in my life,

(16:34):
but then also for other people who who want to.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Be around the football game. It's a it's a true blessing.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
By the way, Pooka lucky to catch baskets from a
great quarterback like Matthew Stafford, whose wife has.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
A very popular podcast.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Would you be cool your girl had a podcast and
she talked about you?

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I think so.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
Yeah, I haven't watched Matthews does a good drum.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, I've seen some.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
I've seen some of the clips on Instagram, But I'm
not a I'm not a big podcaster.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
What listener unless it's Joe Rogan, that's your guy.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, I dabble every once in a while, so I
don't I don't see too much of what's going on.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Let me recommend another one. Cavino and rin A lease yeah,
send it to me in the Duke Pat Yeah, man, yeah, Pooka.
A pleasure of having you here.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Always get to see you, brother, always Roo He's it's
the ram I have to root for.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Great, Thank you, brother, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
In for Colin Covino and Rich We got more next
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Speaker 6 (17:43):
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Speaker 3 (18:00):
Vino and Rich which Ford Colin on the Herd for
you know, we're gonna talk about that because I think
you guys are as clowns. And I'll explain why. However,
no matter where you were.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
When the company's paying, why does the food just taste
better because it's free?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, it's just how it is.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
They don't even have to do the fake reach for
the wallet either. That's part of it, and that's part
of the scene.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Again.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
There a lot of boozing and schmoozing, a lot of
events and parties leading up to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
And as you always point out, you know, if you
go to a conference for your career, you just bump
into people you've.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Met along the way.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
So for us, it's like, hey, look, there's like a
reunion for the industry. There's Adam shying, there's meta times,
there's that like you see everyone you've worked with over
the years.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
So it's like bap check, let's kick his ass. A
lot of people you used to work with, people you know,
a lot of familiar faces that you see on TV.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Actually a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Everyone busts out there their new wardrobe, their new gear
for you know, super Bowl week and everything rocking my
Travis Matthew Jackett.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
That's a nice one. Like I brought out some huge
ordins yesterday.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Is it safe to say that eight out of ten
dudes in this whole conventions that are bought some new
sneakers or shoes in the last week.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
You got us like the first day of school. You
don't roll up to the first day of school beat
up thirtys Air Force. You gotta bring in. That's just
part of the deal. And we'll give you to play
by play. We got Vince will Fork stopping by later
on the show, and Fred Warner this hour, one of
Rich's heroes, and a quick reminder again we're Covino and
Rich and we do this Monday through Friday on Fox

(19:27):
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Speaker 3 (19:35):
Get here, Pooka Nakua.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Here's some of the interviews we had earlier this week,
Covino and Rich. We're on two to four from La
So two to four on the West, five to seven
on the East. But always a pleasure to fill in
for Colin on the Herd. So we're basically doing five
hours yea of radio today. Now I gotta call Rich
out as Oh, you know what, I see Fred Warner
stopping by.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I'll call you out right after that. Save that, you
know what, Calling you out is what I'm good at.
So don't worry. I forget hold that.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Butt and you could cut me out at the end
of our hang with my dude, Fred Warner, hold on, yo,
what's up?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Man? All right, let's welcome with Glory.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
I'm the biggest he is he is man. Let's welcome
forty nine Ers linebacker Fred Warner to the show. All right,
welcome man, No man, thanks for stopping by.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
We appreciate I'll try to hide my fanboy nous I'll
tell you as a Niners fan this season, I gotta
know as a player, did you feel what I felt
every week? Where I was like, next week they went
three in a row, they'll turn it around, of course,
sneak into the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (20:35):
Yeah, I mean that that was, of course what we
all felt, right, And I hate that the season ended.

Speaker 9 (20:40):
How or it even turned out how it did.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Right.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
We've had seasons in the past where we had slow starts, right,
and we're three and five, or we're on the verge
of three and six, and we find a way to
pull it off and then win out and do all
these sort of things, and of course you're yearning for that.
But at the end of the day, we we couldn't
overcome a lot of the things that we were dealt, right,
So that was the toughest part.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
This Niner season.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
A weird analogy, but we're failing for Colin today and
he does analogies all day.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah. It reminded me of Mike Tyson Buster Douglas. The
whole time.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
You're like, oh, Tyson, old, just a matter of time,
that's right. Each round went on, You're like Buster Douglas
is whipping his ass a little bit yeah, and then
eventually like, oh damn, Buster Douglas won every week.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm like the fan of this analogy.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I don't know what I have to do with in
this current interview, but you know what I gotta say, Fred,
Let's take a look at next year's schedule.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I know you can't think that way, but it's pretty
light mm hmm yeah.

Speaker 8 (21:35):
I mean it's so, here's how the schedule goes. The
year that we just finished. Everybody's looking at the teams
that we've that we're gonna play, and we're going off
of base off the past year, right, and that means
but what happens, Like all those teams that had poor,
poor seasons, they all now have the best picks to
pick up the best players, and then they go in
free agency and they go get more great players, and
then all of a sudden, they have a great year

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next year. And everybody's like, oh my god, I thought
this team sucked, and he's like, no, well they got
they got some reinforcements. Because nobody wants to stay at
the bottom, right, And so it doesn't matter what the
schedule is. I mean, obviously, I guess you technically you
want the easiest schedule, But at the end of the day,
there is no easy games because it's the NFL. Everybody's great,
So you gotta go out and you got to put
the best product on the field every given Sunday.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Fred Warner here on the Cavino and Rich Show.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Rich talked about, you know, everybody expecting the season to
turn around last year and it just never really did.
So there's a lot of buzz, a lot of talking
everyday social media on TV.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
How do you tune that out or does it start
to weigh on you after a while?

Speaker 6 (22:33):
No, you tune it out.

Speaker 9 (22:35):
I think in season is especially.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
Important to kind of just keep that stuff outside of
whatever your personal things that you're allowing into your life.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Right.

Speaker 8 (22:45):
I think there's a lot of stuff out there that
can kind of seep in your mind and sway the
way that you think about the game or the way
that you approach the game. And I've learned throughout my
young my younger years, as I can say now, is
to kind of just put all that aside, man, and
just focus on the main thing, and that's playing football
and preparing as hard as you can week in a
week out to put the breast product on the field.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Well, you could focus on yourself, right, You're in control
of that. Sure, you start to feel the tension building
within the locker room, like cause you are a family
of sorts. When things get tough, do you start to
notice that, Well, try to keep it calming.

Speaker 8 (23:17):
I think, I honestly think that we have a locker
room that's made of the right type of guys. I
don't think that. You know, our GM John Lynch and
Kyle shann and our head coach, they don't bring guys
that are made of the right things. And so we
all stay together through all the hardships. And it has
nothing to do about the pressure from the outside. If anything,
there's more pressure from the inside because there is a
standard of winning in our organization. So when it's not

(23:37):
being upheld, then that's when you start to feel okay,
like we need to write the ship. And so it
was a miserable season because we didn't.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
We didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Fred Warner hanging with Covin on rich In for the Herd.
Robert Sell as a fan, I was pumped.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Who cares about what I think?

Speaker 4 (23:52):
When you are are hearing the rumors and then it happens,
is that your guys at a nice reunion.

Speaker 9 (23:57):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
I can't even I can't speak to how amazing that
is right here on this on this set, because because
of how much Coach Sola means to me and my
progressions as a young player. I mean from the moment
I got drafted to starting me as a as a
young rookie who didn't even never played off the ball
backer before, and sticking with me through the rough patches
of that rookie season, and and me being able to
send in this league. So I'm so grateful to him

(24:20):
for what he's given me, and now being able to
have him back now in these different points in our
careers are going to be unique, but in such the
right ways. I mean, he's he's such a great teacher
and leader of men. I'm so excited have him.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Back, and he seems like such a good dude.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
So what were your thoughts when you saw he was
treated and what went on with the Jets and everything.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
Well, look, I don't I don't even know exactly what
went on over there. Obviously, I can only speak to him. Yeah,
you know, when I do sit down and talk with
I'm sure I have a little bit more information but
by then I might not be able to get back
on the set with you guys. But yeah, man, I'm
obviously I'm just excited that he is. However, it all unfolded,
he's back with us, and so that's what makes me
excited and hopeful for the future.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Now rock party other side of the b But it
seems like I love how you have his back. I'm
not saying it's disingenuous, but do you have to have
your quarterbacks back or do you really believe in what.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
He could deliver?

Speaker 6 (25:10):
Yeah? No, I can.

Speaker 8 (25:11):
I can honestly say that if I did had a
certain sort of way that I felt about a player,
like I would jump around a question, right, like I
kind of find a way to say something nice about
him when you know in reality it's probably not the
right guy. Like I don't know how much time do
we have on this set, Like we could sit here
a game. But at the end of the day, this
is a cat that was the last pick of the draft, right,

(25:33):
and you don't even hear about these guys who they
don't even pan out in the NFL. I want people
to understand this. The last pick of the draft doesn't
usually make it on a roster. This is the guy
who is our franchise quarterback, you know, and it's just
made of the complete right stuff and has continued to
prove week in and week out.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
That he is that guy. You know.

Speaker 8 (25:50):
He led us to a super Bowl. Unfortunately we didn't
win that super Bowl, but that's not his fault. It's
it's a team game, right. He made enough plays in
that in that game to win us the game. Uh,
he finished with the ball with us having more points
than the other team. It was our job to stop
their offense. So at the end of the day, man,
he just is the complete right guy for the position.

Speaker 9 (26:07):
And I love him. I love the way that he
competes in the way he approaches it.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Not to throw Trey Lance onto the bus, but they
were rumblings early on that even even in like early practices,
it was like, take a look at party.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
Yeah, Purty as the Well, you're the third string guy,
and you're obviously mister irrelevant, last pick in the draft.
You're not gonna have a lot of opportunities to get
out there on the practice field. So the times where
he was getting reps wasn't training Campbell wore and the
PM practice out there no helmets, no pads, were walking
to walk through. But he's out there treating it as
if it was a game. And I'm like, how like

(26:40):
this guy is he? How does he even know how
to do this? You're a rookie, like everything just staged
against you, and he just knew exactly what to do
from the moment he came on the team.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
It's kind of lame, but it's sort of the story
of the ugly duckling, right, Like he turned into a beautiful.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Swan leading team.

Speaker 9 (26:56):
Right, he's phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Game.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Want to talk about your game, but not on the field.
Your wife? You met her by sliding into the dusk, right,
that's right?

Speaker 9 (27:06):
Yeah, I got I got a little something man.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, So how cool was that? Though?

Speaker 5 (27:10):
I'm imagining you're watching TV you saw her and you're.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Like, I like her? Is that how?

Speaker 8 (27:15):
It was a unique situation. But at the end of
the day, yeah, I mean I see her. She's gorgeously beautiful.
I didn't know what it was going to turn into.
I did sign the DMS and she somehow answered back.
I didn't think she would, right, And we we met
in LA. This was right before COVID happened. She was
there for business and got in super late. The only
thing that was open was an in and out, and

(27:35):
so we went to In and Out and we just
sat there. We talked for hours, and the similarities within
each other, it just it was a match made ahead.
But you met her at in and Out basically, really, yeah,
that was the That was the first date.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, that's yeow dude.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
And by the way, if you guys don't know the story,
she was on The Bachelor season twenty four, So I'm
assuming you're a fan and you're just watching and you're
like you point at the TV.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Or something.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
So, by the way, you guys are great on social
media together, honestly, Like my wife's.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Like, they're so cute.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
I appreciate it, man, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Now I got to ask this whole season you played hurt.
I mean, I'm not saying that's you know, I know
everyone's a little.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Hurt, but right, you weren't hurt?

Speaker 9 (28:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, is this all.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Season gonna be just the perfect rest? You need to
come back now strongly?

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Absolutely?

Speaker 8 (28:20):
And you know, I hate to kind of just put this,
don't I don't ever want to put this ball out
on myself because I know that everybody's dealing with something
at some point. It was a very hard and unique
season for myself because I hadn't had to push through
something like that before. But I'm proud of the way
that I was able to fight through it, even through
the circumstances, and I'm excited, yeah, to get back healthy
this offseason, to ultimately get back to form going into

(28:41):
next season.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
Are you more concerned this offseason about working on your
right hook trying to knock that ball out?

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Like, I don't know if that's part of the training now.

Speaker 8 (28:48):
I guess start working on my left. Yeah, that's the
that's the problem, right.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
And are you still hitting the weights?

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Because when I searched Fred Warner, I was just doing
some research on your stats. The first thing that come
up came up was how many times could you bench
to twenty five?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Ah? Yes, yes, it said forty one?

Speaker 10 (29:03):
Is that?

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh my god?

Speaker 9 (29:04):
That's absolutely not right.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Do you still care about that stuff?

Speaker 6 (29:07):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (29:08):
Not at all.

Speaker 8 (29:08):
I mean I do care about the way room, but
don't get that Let's not get that wrong, Like the
wight room is very important for ultimately performance and longevity
in this league. But do I care about how many
times I bention none. Yeah, you know that those times
are those times were good while they lasted, and they weren't,
but it was, you know, it was. It was part
of the process. And now it's just about uh, just

(29:29):
being the best version of myself for Sundays.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Fred we had a pooking the cool here earlier. Awesome
and he's a good dude, he says.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
We're talking about the culture now of like you can't
really tackle guys the way you used to.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Is there such an emphasis on punching out the ball?

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Is that something like defensive specialists are telling you we
gotta do this?

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (29:48):
I think that is for absolutely something that teams are
are honing in on now. It's not it's not easy though,
you know, some guys have more of a knack forward
than others. But at the end of the day, as
long as you practice something, yeah, you got to do
it every single day. You gotta practice it every day
to make a muscle memory. And that's what I've done.
I added it to my game in my second season
and first game being out there with Kawant Alexander, I

(30:09):
go and I punch the ball out right, And so
that was just how it all unfolded again.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
We're here with Fred Warner, and I know you're here
with Experience, that's right, So yeah, tell us about it, man, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
No, listen.

Speaker 8 (30:19):
Experience all about saving everybody time and money, right, And
so you download the Experience app. They help you cancel
all your subscriptions that you don't use, that you don't need.
Everybody falls victim to it, right, A.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Lot of people pay. I was checking my bills once.
It's like, babe, we're still paying for our moloton exactly.
It's like, man, we don't even have a peloton anymore.
You know that thing broke like three years ago. Okay,
why are we still paying for this?

Speaker 8 (30:38):
So you know, we all fall victim to it where
things just go unnoticed. But they do all the heavy work,
all the heavy lifting of doing all that for you
and saving your time and money.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I think my mom was still paying for AOL way.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
I got to ask it is true it because it
hurt me as a fan, and and I hate to
compare it because I'm just a fan.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
I was there both times against the Chiefs. Does this
make you want to see them lose? A you're pulling
for the Eagles and you're not watching. Some guys like
I don't even want to watch, Like, what's your what's
your thoughts.

Speaker 9 (31:04):
I'm not the cat that doesn't watch.

Speaker 8 (31:05):
I'm I'm a complete fan of the game, so I'm
absolutely gonna be tuned in, but I'm not pulling for
other team.

Speaker 9 (31:11):
I I I dislike both teams honestly. Yeah, and your and.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Your wife hates the Eagles fans. I heard, right, Oh well,
I wouldn't say hate, but it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
It wasn't.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
It wasn't the most It wasn't those cordial, uh you know,
encounter when we went out there that one time. But yeah,
I dis like both teams, so I hope they both lose,
you know what I'm saying. I don't know how that works,
but we can.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
We can figure that was that there was that meme
where it's like who is rooting for?

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Who is?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Like meteor strike? It was the number one answer.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
I mean, yeah, it let the lights shut out again
like they did back What was that when we played
the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Rich I'm only three as a fan. We changed this
next year? Next year?

Speaker 8 (31:47):
Come on, I got you fred a pleasure having you know,
you got around the pleasures all mine man.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
It's a pleasure to meet Fred Water on the Cavino
and Rich Show in for Colin cow heard Super Bowl
f fifty nine New Orleans.

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(33:36):
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(34:08):
stop by. But it's a pleasure bringing you into the
room where it happens. We're here at the convention Center.
There's a buzz in the air, and we're just pumped. Man,
just to look around. I saw Page Sporannic again, I
don't do that. I saw a bird Chreiser. You know,
we're waving at people. We saw Jake Glazer walking by,
and it's just that Ronck.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Was over there.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
It's nice to bump into people on and off the earth.
It's very, very very cool to be here and listen.
Earlier today, caught up with a really good dude. And
when I say a really good dude, I assumed dude.
Have a fun time talking to him. But Vince Wilfork,
a guy that's been to four Super Bowls, one of
the greatest defensive players of our lifetime. New England Patriot.

(34:53):
We love them and we want you to hear it.
So this is our hang earlier today with Vince will
Fork on the Hurd and Rich.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
We are joined by two times Super Bowl champion Yalls.
Five hundred and sixteen tackles, one of the greatest those
tackles of all time.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Vince will Ford Trump, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (35:14):
That's pretty cool that I feel good night. You should
with you, guys.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah, man, looking good too, Thank you, thank you, thank you.
You know, I'm looking at your stats.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
And again, five hundred and sixteen tackles, one defensive TD.

Speaker 11 (35:28):
Do you still think about that one? Tell us about
that one, man, that one. I fell on the ball
in the end zone, right, but still yeah it's a touchdown.
It goes down and touchdown, right, But yeah, that's what
it was.

Speaker 10 (35:39):
I mean, I was on the bottom of the pile
and it took bout five minutes for everybody to get
off of me.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Is that scary, man, where you're the guy underneath?

Speaker 6 (35:47):
But you know what, I never thought about it.

Speaker 10 (35:49):
When I was up underneath there, I was like, cause
you know, got the face man, and I was just
face down, like oh, And I'm telling everybody I got.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
The ball, will Fork got the ball. Got the ball.
I was just having fun and making jokes about it.
I got the ball, real, I got the.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Ball with that's scares the hell out of me. I mean,
if you're claustrophobic and all all those big dudes are
piled on you, that's not a fun moment. I mean,
you got touch that, but that those moments being under
the pile not fun.

Speaker 10 (36:14):
But the thing is if you if you own the
under pile, be face down right, don't don't don't face
that like no, you know like that now that would
have creaked me out right.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
Yeah, I'm a face down I couldn't seen that. But
the ground.

Speaker 11 (36:26):
Yeah, but you try to figure out in the end zone,
right yeah yeah, I don't know, but I got the ball.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
I have the ball.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
By the way, Vince will Fark no stranger to this week.
Super Bowl week. I got to ask you about the
highs and lows of a Super Bowl when you win
or when you lose. Because of the games you've been in,
they're all close. Like you're on the sideline thinking crap,
the Seahawks got us. You win, you're on the sideline
thinking we got the Giants they win, Like, how are
those emotions?

Speaker 6 (36:53):
Well, during the game, you just locked in, you know,
even the Seattle game. It's like we.

Speaker 10 (37:00):
Always thought we had a shot in every game we play,
no matter what it looked like, because of twelve and
because of Bill Belichick, because so I'll you know, always
thought that way. So that Seattle game, like the marching
and all that stuff it really done. Didn't done on
me that we're just gonna lose a game like it
is what it is, because my mind said, okay, okay,

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the worst can happen to us. They score, we get
a ball back the Tom and he go do what
he got to do in two many because mind you,
Tom torched them up over three hundred fifty yards passing
the game. So I wasn't worried about that. So when
you're in it, you don't really think about it. It's
just like being in battle, where no matter what's going
on around, you have a job to do. You don't

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got you have to stay locked in and stay focused
in what you're doing because anything is possible. Right And
Malcolm end up making that play, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Do you love him forever because of that play him?

Speaker 6 (37:54):
That's a great football play.

Speaker 10 (37:56):
Like, you just have to chalk that up because ten
out of times it's incomplete, right, you know, it's an
InCopy ball. But for some reason, man, a good man
was on our side with doubt. But that hell of
a catch and the hell of a just a hell
of a football player. And guess what I was on
the opposite end of that with the helmet catch, yep,
and with the scene route, you know, the route that

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I think Many him against Eli third and long backed
up on the sideline, Cover two, perfect ball right on sideline.
So I was, trust me, I had it twice. Who
I lost in too?

Speaker 3 (38:32):
I won.

Speaker 10 (38:33):
So it says you have to take it and you
have to just chalk it up to a good football play.
And those plays like that helmet catch, I mean it
is what it is like, ten out of ten times incomplete, right,
you know. But that pass on the sidelight that Many
threw too many hand whatever, that was Cover two, perfect
thrown ball, perfect coverage, perfect catch, perfect location.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Vince wo Fork, let's talk about the two wins again.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
You were with the Patriots from O four to twenty fourteen,
then the Texans after that.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
What was the difference in Super Bowl wins?

Speaker 5 (39:05):
I think you and Brady were the only two to
win and four and fourteen two different decades. So what
were the difference in wins one earlier in your career
one later in your career.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
Well, I think the difference was one I was a
rookie and one I was a veteran, you know, rookie year.
I basically came in.

Speaker 10 (39:20):
Yeah, I played and all of that stuff, But that
really wasn't my defense of my team, you know, I
was you know, I wasn't that. You know, I had
others in front of me. I was waiting my time
now my last one, that was my team.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Did you not feel as part of it though? Looking back?

Speaker 10 (39:34):
Yeah, because I mean I was a young bug, Like
I was a rookie. You know, I had guys around
me that's been in the game for so long, like
you know, Vrabel, I got William McGuinness and Bruski Rodney Harrison.
So I had guys around me that's been playing for
you know, a good while.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
That that was their their team and their deals.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
So they were veterans and you're sort of like cheering
with them, you're still part of I'm.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Still part of it.

Speaker 10 (40:01):
The last one was that was my team that was defense.
Those guys I basically brung up. I helped them. I
taught them, you know, they was my linebackers. There was
my secondary. When I spoke, it was like I was
like the big brother.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
You have a little taste of everything, you know, winning young,
winning older, losing Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
We had a little bit of everything.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
But when you watch like a documentary Man in the Arena,
Tom Brady, do you get emotional watching those old high
lights when it's all in slow motion and they tell
like an emotional story along with the games.

Speaker 10 (40:32):
Well, a lot of times we don't realize some stories
behind things, you know, and watching stuff like that, he's.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
Like, man, we did that. Dang like dang, you tell
them you like.

Speaker 10 (40:42):
It puts you in awe because you don't realize how
great things were until you retire and you look back
on your career because you have to understand as you plan, it's.

Speaker 6 (40:53):
Go, go, go go.

Speaker 10 (40:54):
I don't have time to reminisce on the play that
I made, you know, I don't got time to I
don't have I don't have time to reminisce on losing
every week is you have to go. But once you
retire and sit back and you'd be like, wow, and
we did that, or man, I did that, that's crazy.
That's when you could kind of reminisce on your career

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what it meant for you the teammates you had stuff
like that and be in a certain situations. You thought
it was one thing, but you find out there was
so much other stuff going on.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
It's like, man, I didn't have no clue.

Speaker 10 (41:28):
So it's bittersweet, you know, it's a bittersweet, but it's
always cool to look back and just realize what we
accomplished over that span.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
When you see what Mahomes is doing right now, do
you get defensive of twelve of Tom Brady or do
you or do you admire what Mahomes is.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
I admire him.

Speaker 10 (41:47):
I admire him because you know, Mahomes won me over
last year when you know, Chiefs was not looking like
the Chiefs and you know, they hit a stride and
Mahomes game changed. And you see when his game changed,
the team game change. He basically put that team on
his back. He said I'm going and get him, and
I became a Mahomes fan. And then you know, but

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twelve is twelve. That's just what it is. Twelve Yeah,
he's different.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
Yeah, speaking of Mahomes, you know he's going for the
three piece, something that Brady hasn't done. But Jalen Hurts
doesn't want to lose again, right, especially to the Chiefs.
You've lost in a super Bowl? Can you tell us
about the motivation factor? Rich and I have been arguing
all week.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Because I feel like both teams wanted He's like the
Eagles made one more.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
I'm saying, what's a greater motivator to win again? Like
you've been fed already or I haven't gotten one yet
and you've lost, Like, what's a greater motivator losing or
going for the three P?

Speaker 10 (42:45):
Losing? Because you know three P? I mean it's three P. Yeah,
it's cool, it's history and all that. But if I've
lost the super Bowl, I know that feeling. See people
don't understand tell us the feeling, Yeah I can. I
can ever explained it to the point that you would
get it because you have that's something you have to experience.
Losing the Super Bowl is the worst, worst time in

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my career. You understand other team confetti hitting you, you're
walking off the field. You got to go do media.
You don't want to talk to media. You're pissed off
because everything you put into it. Losing a game of
Super Bowl it's.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Like someone taking your girl in front of you and
you have to watch it.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
You have to watch it. You can't do nothing. You
have to respect this, you know.

Speaker 10 (43:29):
So I always think losing is a bigger deal than
three ping, because three p you got two already and
then you might not three people, but you might. Can
you know, lose one and go you got a chance
to do another. But you're losing. It's a big deal.
So he was, it's a huge deal. So I think
the Eagles looking at it in the aspect of, hey,

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we remember this feeling, how we felt losing before. We
don't want that feeling ever again, Like we know, we
don't want that feeling.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
And everybody so focused on the three pet and I'm like, yo,
they're pretty motivated too, and they got sick defensive legends.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Are you seeing how this guy looks?

Speaker 6 (44:09):
Unstoppable legend?

Speaker 10 (44:11):
I fell in love with Barkley. Listen what he's done
this year. I fell in love. I became I don't
know if you call me an Eagles fan or whatever
it may be, but I fell in love with him,
just the way he approaches the game, and I want
them to win it for that. You know, before him,

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you know, and people doubting him or he's not the
same in this, that and the other. He came back
and had a monster year, like one of the best
years of running back and half in the.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
History of this game.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
And he seems like a good dude, and he seems like.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
A great guy.

Speaker 10 (44:45):
It seemed like when you when you have a guy
like that, it's easy to play and rally around a
guy like like listen and not let's not talk about
the Eagles.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
Their their their defensive.

Speaker 10 (44:54):
Front or their offensive front, like they have what it
takes to win.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
They do.

Speaker 10 (45:00):
They I believe they're the most physical team. I think
they have more depth all on defensive line and they
have playmakers on a defensive line that can ruin the
game or.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
As a defensive gun. How would you stop him? How
would you stop Barkley? Everyone's saying, don't you can't bet
against Mahomes, but they're all saying, you can't stop sit
on Barkley.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
So how would you approach that man?

Speaker 10 (45:24):
He it's big boy game, because cause I can't I
can't dedicate eight in the box. I can't because guess what,
I have these guys on the outside. We have these guys,
these playmakers on the outside into my tight end and
the back out of the backfield. I can't do that
because if you do that, I'm over the top. I
got a speech to runner for one that can get

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down a feel in two seconds, like you're putting so
much stress on your second Like, no, you can't do that.
So you're gonna have to play smart, schematic You're gonna
have to do some things differently, show them some different looks, disguise.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
You know, you may be think of something speaking of
doing things differently.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
I know it's always been a part of the game,
but do you think there has been an increase in
knocking the ball out, punching the football?

Speaker 3 (46:09):
What are your thoughts on that? Are they taking boxing lessons?

Speaker 5 (46:11):
How are they so accurate in today's game knocking the
ball out, punching it out?

Speaker 6 (46:15):
I think it's just practice more right. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (46:18):
I mean they took they took something that was very
successful and just implementing and and just practices and practices,
because I just look at it as nowadays with NFL,
you can't hit, you can't tackle certain type of ways.
So the most important thing in football, it's the ball, right,
The ball turnovers. So if I can't knock your head off,
how can I get this ball? I can't hit you
and get it off, So what what.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
Else I get? You know what?

Speaker 10 (46:40):
I'm a box a whole new part of the game. Yeah,
but me, I'll be like, man, I'm getting too close.
I need to do something. But these patient pay their power,
you know. It's it's a credit to the coaches that's
coaching it, and it's credit to the players that's taking
that part of their game and elevated it.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
Because to make a huge game.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
Mike Tyson is gonna be a football coach. N I'm
working with the Raiders now.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, yeah, you know that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
Eat your face. I love it.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Yeah, Vince will fark. I gotta ask you because you're
here with Kingsford R.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
Yes, yes, yes, So I'm here all.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Week and we're having a super Bowl party at my
house when I get back to California. And my wife said, Babe,
this week while you're gone, I want to buy a
new smoker and a new.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Grill, and I want to experiment with new food.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
For the party and I'm like, Babe, that's not the
time to start out making you smoking meats or taking
on this task before.

Speaker 10 (47:38):
You know what kings from making very easy for you.
Bud It kings for the originally is the choice of champions.
Just get you some kings because you know what you know,
some people think grilling is just all about a seasonal thing,
willingness all year round. Now I cook all the time,
and because it's it's the flay List. The smell is
bringing people together, family and friends and were talking earlier,

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just growing up into the park and just having that
a romance. Son, you knew what time it was, so
it is perfect time. This is perfect time for you
and your wife. All right, get keys for on boy,
go get to keys for for game day preparations to make.
But it makes it so so simple and easy because
it's just it brings so many people together, food and football.

Speaker 6 (48:19):
It's like amazing collap. You know. When it comes to.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
That, Vince, I gotta ask you what happens if someone
tries to man your grill?

Speaker 12 (48:27):
Can you take over another man's man? That's a lessen here, man,
that's got to be pretty bad to make that man listen.
That's that's right up there. How I feel about boiling ribs, like,
we don't do that. You don't touch you don't touch
my grill, don't touch another man's radio. You don't do that.
So there's nobody come in peeking like we're not doing that.
That's fighting, right.

Speaker 10 (48:48):
So I'm very very protected over my grill and my
setup and how I do things like if stay in
the house, I'll let you know when the food is done,
you know.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Speaking of the Kingsford stuff too, you're working with Chason Kelsey.
I'm just wondering what it's like working with this guy.
He's so popular now, is it crazy to see one
of the beetles or something?

Speaker 10 (49:06):
You know. It was cool and we had a good
time having it. We had a great time on set
and amazing, amazing guy, you know, and I was happy
to bring him on to the kings for failing to
teach him a little something something about being the king
of the grill, you know. So he's learning. He's almost there.
He'll probably tell you he's there, but you know, it's
a working progress. But I'm happy with him and we

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had a great time. It was Kingsford and Jason and myself,
like man, we we've done amazing things, you know, and
we're going to hopefully we can continue to do this
stuff and bring you guys some more good stuff.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
Goodness.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
I love it, man, A pleasure.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
Thank you, Good day,