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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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We're back in Australia for UFC three twelve.
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Speaker 2 (01:37):
Hey, what was going on with you and Bisbee up there?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Earlier?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I saw a clip of you of Bisbee.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Wah Now, Mike Man, No, dude, Hey, my mi' is
a legend. Dude, Like I remember the first time I
trained them. Dude, he's a legend. I mean he's the
guy that I looked up to. I mean he's an asshole, but.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He still got a little business.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They been solder, but I mean, you know, I'm while
calling kettle black here.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Right, my man, thank you for stopping by again here
with Sean Strickland as he challenges or the UFC Middleway
Championship this weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Back in Sydney's coach, I mean right where.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You were last time when you became the champ, when
you got off the plane, any memories come back to,
like this is the spot that I actually ultimately became
the champions.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Man, it's a beautiful city. Like the people here are great.
I always say like Australians are the white trash of
English in Ireland, and you know, I'm kind of white
trash shoes. So I feel like when I come here,
I'm just with my people. You know, we all drive
four by fours, we all love low gear, you know.
So I just back back in the comming land with
my people.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
They were cheering you more than Izzy last time we
were here. Now, to me, it was crazy. I couldn't know.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
With Izzy, I've actually like, if you watch is he
do interviews, I think he's kind of stunted, like and well,
let me say when I say this, like you watch
him say jokes like he did an interview with Nina
and he's like, oh, you look like a witch, and
it's like something like a little kid would say, you're
kind of like maybe because you had too many nannies.
So I don't think Izzy's necessarily a bad guy. I
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just think you're stunted, you know, and now once I've
accepted that, I like him a lot more.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You like him a lot more so.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
But I mean, like even in a sense of humor,
Like it's not autism. It's like, you know, it's like this,
I think is what happens when you get brought up
in nannies.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I don't know. I didn't have a nanny. Yeah I know, dud,
Yeah I did not have one. Well, you get back here, right.
Was ever a worry that you weren't gonna get this fight?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Especially when Hamzad wins that last fight in the way
that he did, and everybody's talking about it right there
feeding it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
They're telling us hums out look good and my might
jump Homas.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He's even alloud in the country. That man's on a
homeland security watch list. Calm down, dude, are you kidding me?
He became best friends with the dictator. I mean, dude,
there is no lower human being on this earth than TAMAIAV. Like,
you know, there is no lower human being on this
earth than Tamaia. You became best friends with a murderer
and you took g wagons like you're not a man, dude,
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you should be allowed in this country. But I'll fight you.
I'll fight you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Don't worry what happened before you guys used to train
together and every thing what happened because right now, like
I remember speaking to you about Toremao fire and it
wasn't as you know, like this, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So Tamaia would come to gym, I it was a
clip like oh me like being sarcastically you're the best,
You're the best, Like he would just go and ragged
or low level pros like dude, I mean there's one guy,
a fifty fiver and he would like he's like, oh,
he kind of has the same like style and he
looks like my opponent. I'm like, yeahdude, he's had three
fucking fights. He like, stop beating the fuck out of
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this guy. There's so many guys in the gym you
can fight, who stop beating this guy up, Jamia. Jamia's
is a bowie man. And I mean, even like the
crypto scam, like history does not if you have an open,
honest opinion on Jamaiah, you're you're looking at a man
that lacks all other dignity.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So you didn't never think that he was gonna jump
you for the belt.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I don't even know if fucking he again, Like I said,
I mean, you can't become friends with, you know, a
murderer and then expect to even be letting me. And
why he's in Saudi Arabia right now?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Really?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, why do you why do you think he has
the fun in the US?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know, so many people say that, like Chill said that.
Chill said, he's like he can't come to the the
United States.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
But I'll be thinking Chills lying to me all the time. No,
I mean I think Chill's lying all the time.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
No, I mean, like it's it's fact, dude. Like you
you your family fled in this oppressive, horrible place, and
then you go back and you take g wagons and
and then next thing you know, you're like, oh fuck,
this guy's actually a bad man. I gotta leave. It's
just hard, man, you know, it's just hard, like when
so many people lack dignity. And I understand it's easy
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to do, but like you see all these people. It's
like you know back in the Basketball player, you know
the funky looking guy, really really funny dude.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh, this Ron is roun.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Like when he goes and like buddies up with like
Kim Jong U and he's like, he's not a bad
guy as he's killing everybody in a depressed regime. Having
having character and dignity at the cost of your own
financial well being is one of the artist things to
do as a professional athlete. But you must do it.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, well, you're not fighting ms out this weekend. Yeah right,
you're fighting against Dreca's duplus. Yeah rematch, and obviously I
can now I can't. If you win, I cannot wait
for you. And i'ms out to fight fireworks right because
of the things I used to I'm pretty sure he
takes well.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
What I say though was let hist recorded his fact
and if I tell a lie, please please tell me.
But I no, I mean Draykis, dude, he fights like
a retard off a shore bus. No, I'm seriously, he
goes fucking he goes full sin dude, Like I mean really,
it's like if you were to go watch two little
special kids fight, Oh, they would resemble Draykis, Like he
just fucking head down full sin. But it's it's highly effective,
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you know. But unlike last time, dude, you're not gonna
head butt me, and I'm gonna fucking pick you apart
for five rounds.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So you you and Dracus fault before very close fight.
Many people thought you won, as did you.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, man, let me say, optics matter and fights
and when in the cut, I mean your gun, I
mean you've been you've had your eyes. I mean they
had eight stitches in the muscle, Like my vision was gone.
So it took me a couple of rounds to adjust
to that. You know, cowardice, maybe has been a pussy
maybe I just you know, all of the above, but
it won't happen again.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
When you left Canada, right, So before you and I
spoke and we talked about the way life had changed, right,
and the belt mattered. It mattered, but then you kind
of almost dismissive, right like, yeah, sure I've got more
money and a little more notoriety, but ultimately it's just
a belt. But then when the belt was gone, we
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talked about this the other day, Chail and I it's
all you want now. Can you feel the difference in
not being the champion now? And that's why you're like,
I want what I felt when I had that belt.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I don't know, man, I think the beautiful thing about
having low self estivement is even when you win, you
feel like you lose. So I don't know, I just
life is so trivial and like like I don't even
tell my girl this. We get like in a fight
or something stupid, and I'm like, everything that we find
in poor means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
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And I love fighting because it's a job. I love
the fans. But like, man, when you actually look at
what life is and what matters in life and things
become in perspective, it's almost better because you can enjoy
moments more because if you put everything into this, whether
it be a new car, like whatever, promotion, When you
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put so much into something, it like dilutes moments because
you're so you're so fixated. But the moment you realize,
like life is trivial, this moment we're having now, it
doesn't matter which way it goes. You just you're happier, man,
Like you're so much happier when you just understand life
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is very short.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah that you said.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Twenty five minutes of war. My man, I'm getting my
fucking belt back.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Right, It's like, so the belt while while it is
right in the grand scheme of things, being a champion
is is very important to you, but ultimately you've done
it before that can they're gonna be taken away from you.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
He will always be a champ.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I've worked my ass off. I mean I Johnny Eblum,
come down, you've signed that man.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
People. Yeah he's good. Yeah, he's good. Fight as a savage.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You know, he's thirty three, he has probably you know,
three hardy years left, and he's a guy that I
really I want to see him. You've seen more than anything.
I just want him to get a shot. He's a savage.
You know. He wouldn't help me, but yeah, I know
one hundred percent I want my belt, Dude, fucking I
work my ass off for it. I've been thinking about
this for the last six month. I feel like I've
been in camp for like twelve months to six months.
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He's been a long camp.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
When you look at Dracus and now listen, he's one
of those guys that we all want to underrate him.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh he's not so good retard our store.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
But it's it's almost like when he knocked got Robert Woodoker.
Oh something's wrong with Robert. He's not the same guy.
It's one of the then he wins the belt.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It's like it's one of those weird things where like
he's not that good, but he has this he fights
really hard. And when you have a chin made of
granite and you're big and you you're big and you
fight hard, you can do it lot. But I mean, like, no,
he's not that good. He just he has a hard
chin and he fucking fights hard. And man, I'll tell
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you what, dude, like, if anything, you have to have
a little bit of admiration for a man who lacks
in skill and just makes up in heart.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
But it seems like it seems like what also Like
after Izzy fight, I was like, okay, I'm done ever
doubting Dragon's Duke plays, see because he obviously makes that
thing work for him, that style he makes work for him.
So when you were training, after being in there with
him right, knowing that the punch has come from, that was.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Really hard to find someone to mimic. That's what as
a to get someone just to come forward with like
no regard for their safety, that's a real hard thing
to do, you know. But like I said, I had Johnny.
Johnny's a I think Johnny beats strikers. Oh yeah, dude,
Me and Johnny we love Browns, and I think he
beats strikas. Really yeah, I me and him do you
were like, we're neck to neck, toe to toe and
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he comes forward. He's like a he's a better version
of Drakis I imagine, like he uses more skill. But
he's a hard guy to train with, which which is
why I had to ask, you know, the bell to
or champion and can help me out?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So you're good with your hands up, your your your
show your hands. Your jab is good like the way
you put that jab on people as the inner. Can
you find Drake Is more? Now after being in you know,
with them, do you have a better idea how to
find him?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yehe with that job, I mean it is very predictable.
I think the word again. You know, I don't like
to make excuses. Every fighter who's ever lost has an excuse.
But it would have it would have been the snowball
effect if it wasn't for that cut. Really, I mean
once that I was gone, dude, I mean you see
I'm rubbing my eye. Yeah see ship, I'm getting hit
now more on that side of my face. And then
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gate on this side, all this side. Yeah, it really
made things complicated for me. And you know, and and
and no hate on them. Return on shore bus fights hard.
I think that we're gonna have a fucking war. You're throwing,
you're throwing those low gloves. Everybody has a shot to win.
But I just think I'm better.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You think you're better? And do you think that you
kind of can you separate yourself from him?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Like avoid so much of that case as those crashes
to it looks competitive when you're the one that's landing,
but because he's crashing in and that's.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And that's what it was, you're the cut. Change the
optics so much to where you're not gonna have that.
You're not gonna have that this fight you're not. I
mean again, maybe we are. The guy puts his head
down and goes fucking full sand, but I just don't
think you're gonna have that.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
This fight doesn't have to look a little cleaner this
performance for you, Like look clear that.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Got hit too much. I mean I didn't get hit
till after the head budd would I. I don't like
being hit. Every time you get hit, it's like a
it's like you're playing a game and you're losing the game.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You want to hit him back.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, but now that dude, it just shows you like
lack of skill. Every time you get hit, it just
shows it like lack of intelligence, lack of skill, lack
of reading, lack of predicting. I just I take it
as like the biggest, you fucking piece of ship, be.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Better mone every time.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Every time. Man, you're gonna get hit in fissal, you
get hit in fights. But and also to you guys,
I mean you talk to these old dogs in the
sport and then you you know, well spilled, he's wrestling,
real smart man, he's old wrestling. But you talk to
a lot of these like these beasts. Randy gatur though,
I mean RANDI a tour He's the elegant speaking motherfucker.
He has every brain cell left and evan his head.
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But you talk to a lot of guys. I don't
know if it's partying or drugs, but I mean some
of these motherfuckers are half retarded. Like I mean, again,
you could attest to this. You talked to some of
these people, especially after the retired ude, they are half retarded.
It don't matter how much millions you have if you're
fucking retarded. So it's bad though, Dude, Like you you
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talk to these guys and it's like it's like they're
like drunk, and.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I just, dude, I you think that by getting hit
you don't want to end up like I.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Don't and dude, and I'm like, and I'm from like
the old generation where we would actually fucking far. Yeah. Yeah,
I've took so much damage earlier in my career. Like
I remember I was trained with Lawren's Lark and I
was nineteen. He was in the UFC. I kind of
looked up to him. Dude. He hit me with the
six peach combination, and I remember driving home like I'm
gonna fucking die, And I called a friend and say, hey,
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I can sleep on your couch. And I remember like,
at the time, you're allowed.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
To see that a concussion.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, I'm not so fucking severely concussion At the time,
like science is changing where you could you should sleep
as long as you have a brain bleed. More likely don't.
But I remember like laying on laying on the couch saying, hey,
I gotta go sleep. Just check on me every hour,
like thinking, man, if I die, I'm so fucking miserable,
throwing up if I die right now, I'm good, dude,
I'm fucking going to sleep. So I've took so much
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damage early in my career that I really prioritize limiting it.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
You know now, Well, you got an opportunity to become
the champion again this weekend, man, and as always I
appreciate your times.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Thanks for checking it with me.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Guys shown, Strickton tries to become a two time USC
middleweight champ this weekend, and you have set throws to
take at.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
UFC three twelve. Hey, look, liter Chris, you have CPR
is coming to get him. Guys on, Strickling takes on
Drakers Dupe. Let's see you f C three twelve this weekend.
Make sure he's tapping everything he's doing until next time, guys,
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