February 19, 2025 • 35 mins
Ben Askren IS BACK alongside Daniel Cormier for another NEW EDITION of Funky and the Champ! Askren and Cormier give their take on Jon Jones going on IG live, and why a fight with him and Francis Ngannou is almost IMPOSSIBLE in the UFC. Plus, DC and Ben discuss Belal Muhammad saying he'd rather VACATE THE TITLE than fight Islam Makhachev at 170 pounds. And Cormier and Ben also talk Askren's backstory on why he doesn't get along with Kamaru Usman and Colby Covington, wrestling championships, and much more! #Volume #Herd
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:33):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
What's up, guys, Welcome to a brand new episode of
Funky the Champ. I'm Daniel Cormier. That's my main man,
Ben ascreing. What's up, Funky man? How you been well?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
While it's been a while.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I was thinking you have a huge appointment this Sunday, Ohio,
Oklahoma State, Iowa Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Are you watching it or not?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You know I'm watching it. I'm going Hey, I'm going
on FRL. I've never been. Oh really, I'm going on.
I'm going on FROL Thursday. What's the twenty fourth whatever
dates the.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Oh, that's the Monday after the Monday after.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I'm gonna talk about I'm gonna talk. I don't
even go on podcasts. I'm going on.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
If you think they can winner?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Now, yes, okay, I think we could win.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Twenty five, thirty three, we're gonna have some we're gonna struggle.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, forty one.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh, that's a good one. That's a good Mattric.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You want to say, yes, no, we'll win forty nine,
they win fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
That's team R yeah, team A. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So they went sixty five. It's a that's a mean
in a mean and meaning. So that'll be that's a tough.
Seventy five. You know our guy, our guys like crushing
people right now. Yeah, I mean, he's just a man, bro.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Seventy four they gotta go.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
So Nelson Brands just came back. Since Nelson Brands it
has been Patrick Kennedy Commiditi. I would think it was
the significant.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Eighty four US ninety seven, and that's that's one that's
gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Here's the problem. Really good, but Hendrickson could get bonus
at heavy.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
With that's the problem. Henderson's pinning. Everybody brought a big dog.
The big captain was of cap Yeah. I tell you
I never fell, So I never fell so American. I
didn't even feel as American as I do when I
watched White Henderson when I was in the Olympics, when
I see that.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Big boy from the Air Force come off, what's up? Captain?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I was such a bad wire bro. I was at
the Las Vegas Invitational and saw him and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Whyat he gave right up to me? Game you because
I've seen the captain. When I see him, everybody like
that ben O Man and the orange segment.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Why get you all pumped up?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh? He came running up DC DC. Hey, bro, I
love well.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
America, America.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Let Oklahoma State have him for the year because you know,
he couldn't have any more eligibility at the Air Force Academy.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And they gifted him to Okama's there for one year.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, they didn't gift them. I mean, we worked really
hard to have them.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And honestly, hey, hey, thank it to the old staff
setting the wheels in motions before they left. People do
know that all those transfers are already there.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Whenever the.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Bro I swear to God, the seventy four pounder was
already amediate. Actually I heard that about Committee, mean was
going there like those guys were going there. But I mean,
obviously David when David got the job and made it
easier to make the commitment. But Committee and and the
heavyweight thing was already in the works. And uhh, we
got a lot of transfers. Forty one are transfer fifty
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seven is a transfer.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
A lot of transfers Jamison came together.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So it is what it is.
But whatever, Hey, bro, we got to talk about MMA.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I would talk to you about Russell all day, but
we have to talk about MMA. So yo, could I
be honest with you? And I don't like, I don't
like I don't like being supportive. So John Jones the
other day was like freaking out walking down the street
and he was say and some crazy stuf about his kid,
And uh.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Benn, you know what's crazy?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You said he was on vacation. I didn't know he
was on vacation.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I thought he was on vacation. That was on vacation.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Okay, if he was on vacation, haven't we all been there?
Maybe not that extreme, but it's like our kids driver
is crazy. And you know what the worst part is
when you go back to that hotel room, you're the
bad guy. Everybody's found a way to make you're the
bad guy because you're upset about them being bad. And
so I don't want to defend him, but I mean, yeah,
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I mean, come on, man, he's got like not say
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Kill him, but like, oh my god, my children are
being so bad. Have we not all been there?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
You know what, Amy, Amy lose their temper more than me.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I read this article on how when the kids argue,
it actually makes him like smarter and they're like honing
their argument skills. So I'm like, ah, I don't really
love it, but I'm just gonna lock in and tune
them out.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And Amy Amy like you just jop arguing back there.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
He imagine if we saw Amy walking on the street
on her vacation just mumbling to it.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So I don't know she had those emotions, she walking around.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Her kids, as kicking her kids as I mean, that
was that was just crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm not, oh my god, funny. Okay, but listen, we're
not going to talk about that. I just figured we
should mention it because why we're okay. So we have
a whole bunch of fights.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
One that they're still trying to make, you know, with
John Jones is the tom aspinall thing. Dana say he's
working on a National Fight Week, But that's not the story.
The story is Franciston Ghan, who's saying that he believes
the fight could happen if not for Dana White. Dana
White's the big obstacle, Francis said, But are we ready
to kind of just let go of the Frankston Gano,
(06:47):
Like if you didn't make Tom Aspinalll like, he's not
gonna get the fight John Jones.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Uh, Fransston gan Who right?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
That didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I don't know why, you know, obviously I was outside
of the UFC for a long time, and I always
had the desire, but it was like, yes, I would
love to fight these guys. But I'm under no delusion
that Dana White is going to do some type of
co promote or something, because he just doesn't do that,
you know. So the idea that Francis is gonna fight John,
that's a pipe dream.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You see.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
That's the difference between you and most fighters, Like you know,
you're like that data's not gonna have some favor I
think fighters believe that. My going publicans saying that it
might actually happen.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Well, there's just Dana is just so stuck.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I mean, this has been the case for a while,
and I guess I suppose although it can be frustrating
for the fighters, you know, the UFC brand, it's almost
like you can kind of put anyone there on a
Saturday night, you're gonna get X amount of people to
tune in, like you're going to get some solid viewership.
And so Dana has almost always put brand above athlete,
and you know, it's been pretty rare when someone could
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break through, like like a Connor. But then you can
see even then when Connor breaks through as big as
he became, Dana still doesn't fold in negotiations to him.
You know, he's got about the main weather thing. But
then after that it's kind of been like kiss my
ass Connor.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, kind of like Connor became big, bigger, honestly, he
felt bigger than the brand.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
But they always.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Would say stuff like the UFC will always go on
regardless of what happens, like when one person leaves, always
in the USC because they built it to that point.
And when you talk about cross promotion, it's almost like
there really is no point.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
They don't have to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And in business, in most instances, right the powerful entity
doesn't generally sway. You have to make adjustments and you
have to make uh.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Uh, you have to give in to be on their side.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
So if there is a a cross promotion or if
there is a hope of Francis and Ganho fighting John
Jones and getting back to that, it would have to
be in the UFC, yes, And I don't know at
this point if either of those parties want to entertain that,
because it didn't feel like France's life the UFC at
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the end, he felt like he should be doing much better.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He left with a ton of power.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Though as the world champion, so he's been able to
make a very successful career outside of the UFC. But
it still feels like if he's gonna get that fight,
if he wants that fight, as much as it seems
like he might want that fight, he's not to go
back to the UFC.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
To go back to the UFC.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And you know, I mean, the one thing I wanted
to do. I wanted to try to be the best
in the world. And I know that's why you went
without without fighting, without fighting the right people. Francis has
already already achieved that, and so maybe he doesn't feel
the need. And I do believe, oh my gosh, your
camera's freaking me out, how it zoom?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
That's weird.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
But Francis, I believe, I don't think he's lying I
don't know. This is debatable, but I believe he made
significally more money doing the boxing fights outside of the UFC,
And so it's like, hey, if you've already proved you're
the best in the world, and listen, there was this
John Jones and because he John Jones didn't fight for
for your window or whatever, but yeah, go make you
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already prove your best world. Go make a whole bunch
more money. I think that's great. But if he does
want to fight John Jones, he's gonna have to come back.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
He just says that that's the issue, right, because he
feels like they can make that. But he said he's
not losing much sleep about it because he's being he's
been very successful.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
He's very happy, and he's doing things his own way.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, with all the stuff that Francis went through, right,
losing his son Kobe, uh, coming back fighting Hinton Ferreira,
now it sounds like he's gonna box again.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Man. I did. I did a video on this the
other day and said.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Francis wants to box again, but this time against Deontay Wilder.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Uh, he's good, dude, Can you believe that?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Well, after the first one he like, he did really
good and we're like wow. In the second one he
didn't do quite so well. So now it's like, is
there a strong desire to see him box again?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I think he's actually like you know, like say a
Mike Tyson or something where you know, in the PFL,
if a lot of them, if a lot of people
don't have if they don't have compelling opponents, it's going
to be not that much desire. But I think people
would tune in to watch Francis and Guio take Tho's
head off with a massive uppercut or something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So I do feel that. But with the boxing.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
So my thought on the boxing was this, I didn't
like him fighting boxing against the best boxer in the world.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Initially, then he fought Tyson Fury.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So well, so I was like, oh, well, maybe he
can box, right, But then here was the here was
the issue, right, So here was the issue. He fought
Tyson Fury, and I thought he fought Tyson Fury relatively well.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, to say that.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
He's a he's an amateur, an amateur boxer fighting against
the world champion.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
But then when he got the fight against Anthony Joshua.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I was kind of happy because I was like, well,
Anthony Joshua is traditionally like the most conservative of those
big time boxing champions because he doesn't want to get hurt.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He's been knocked out, and then he knocks Francis out
the way that he does.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Deontay Wilder is like Francis, but he actually boxes, He
throws wild He does not have.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
To control himself, but it gets really hard and.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
He hits really really hard.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, and Francis even said somebody's going to sleep like
ninety percent who wants to be involved in something while
you know somebody's nine out of ten times somebody's getting
knocked out.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I supposed to be think it's you if you either,
you're the ones good doing the knocking out.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Pine out a big deal, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But after that, like after getting slept the way he did.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, that would be yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Here, I think he should just tell the PFL line it,
line me up some uh subpark competition and let me
take their heads off.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Because I think he'd be I think he still makes
big money for the fighting in m met Yeah. I
believe probably make it like three four million dollars a fight,
maybe five yeah, very solid.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
The number I heard he was getting from the UFC
was crazy. They said the high or low seven million
a fight to stay. Really that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Ben Real, Yes, of course that's really good.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That's really good. I heard they offered him seven million
per fight to stay all on.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Then I got you on the new contract. But yeah,
not what he was making. That was the new offer.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That was the offer to try to keep him.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, but been.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Uh man, it's interesting, but I don't think he's gonna
fight again Jones. Listen, I don't even know if you
had uh what's that Calshi the new polling thing that
everyone's doing.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You see this, it was a presidential It took off
for the presidential lessons. That was all that, all that,
oh my god, beg markets.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yes, but been all that like new betting, new gam
new new new new voting. It's all just to make
our country just more and more fight with each other.
Well this was this, This one says this was It's like,
it's the craziest thing to work.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Okay, but if there was a Calshy odds on does
John Jones fight again?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I believe they would be less than fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You don't think he's gonna fight again.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I think I think it would be less than fifty percent.
I think it would be somewhere around third twenty thirty
percent that he fights again. I mean, John's not young.
He's thirty, probably thirty nine, thirty eight not young.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, some more in that range. No, No, No, like
thirty seven, dude, he's like thirty.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
No, he's maxis and age.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
He's like thirty seven years old.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Damn you you're right, thirty seven. That's thirty eight. So
that's what I was saying. Thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, he's like thirty seven years old. He's young.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I thought I thought the guy all them times, or
at least was scheduled to fight him all the times.
I knew I was old, and I knew that he
was really really young.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So all right, but yeah, I would I would say
if if there was odds, I think it's less than
half that he ever fights again.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Oh, I think he's gonna fight again. I just like
Tom Hey, butl Mohammed said, that's your boy, that's your.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
I like Paul never super cold. I like him, but
we weren't that close, so I don't know. Saying your
boy is maybe a little more extreme, just to be clear.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
To be clear, that's you. That's you getting scared as
to what I'm gonna say next. So you're trying to
go as it has as a baseline. Just no, I
like him, which you can't say we're really cool. The
spear would sticks.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Okay, So your boy Balh Mohammad, Yes, right, there's a
lot of rumblings. Islamahachev is a very dominant champion from
a weight blow right, Yeah, balal Mohammad says, I don't know, man,
it felt like it felt like Islam wasn't as against
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it or to me. Blah said, I would never fight
Islam because that's a difference for him and me. We've
trained together, and when you're sweating with somebody and you're
bleeding with somebody and you train with somebody like that,
it's a different relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I wouldn't be about the money for me or for him.
I would assume I would ever want to do that.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
They've helped me so much, so I'd rather go to
one eighty five and let him just take the one
seventy belt if that's the case.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
That was crazy statement.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
He br br like. So I was in a situation
with Kave Alaskaz, but and I had I every day,
but every day we trained like I was never away
from kve Alaskaz. I knew Cave Alaska is his family.
I was in his house.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, we loll says, I mean, does that relationship doing
a couple of training camp together warrant that type of statement?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Well, I mean I was just thinking, like, not even that,
but why does he have to he didn't give up
his title, Like, but Islam has one fifty five and
you got one seventy, so and honestly, at one seventy,
there's kind of a lot of good fights for Bolalda
still have some younger up and comers. Uh Dla met Atlanta.
Uh He's fighting Shavka. Right, there's kind of a few
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guys and that they could fight. I mean, Islam has
a little bit cleaned out one fifty five, so maybe
that's the problem. I guess he still can fight Serookie
and even that one fell through, but it feels like
they have their spots. And then uh Islam also has
the Poria fight. So Islam's got his thing, Ball's got
his saying why does Ball need to move? It's kind
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of silly, you know, And awesomely, so that in that case,
I'd be like, dude, if for buddies, why are you
trying to come up here? You got you got two
good fights. You can have armand and then you can
have Ilia. Those are two good fights. I got my
fights that I'm gonna have, Like why do we need
to be doing this?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Do you think it was just like not the right
timing for it.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It's like it's not realistically a thing right now because
of all the reasons you just stated, like yeah, it's
not a pressing matter like that Islam's on his way
up right now. I need to get out of the
weight class or even state that I would move weight classes,
or you think it's just about getting ahead of it,
Like I know what I would do. I'm gonna let
the world know what I would do so that I
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don't deal with all the stuff that comes with If
this man says I want to fight at one seven.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I just I don't know. I don't know why hate
by this saying that, and.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
If he, if he and so the other thing I
feel about the ball and this is the weight classing
is one seventy is the right weight class for him.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
He's not small for the weight class. I think he's
just just about the right size.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
He's also not gigantic for the weight class where it's like,
oh my god, how is he making that weight? He
has to move up right, and there is a it's
fifteen pounds, it's not not a tiny gap. So there
is generally a size difference between a good size one
eighty five and a good size one seventy. Those are
different things in my opinion. And obviously there are certain
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guys who are very big for the weldweight that are
very you know, small for middleweight, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But I think he should stay at well toweight.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I looked, he's thirty six years old, right, which is
if we will historically well, it's start to decline. He
needs he There's plenty of guys he can fight, so
I mentioned Shop Gott, I mentioned Deila Medelena, Joaquin Buckley's
doing a good job at that weight class. Sean Brady's
doing a good job at that weight class. Machatle Gary
could get a few. I mean, there's like a lot
of young guys to fight. He should say, hey, young guys,
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line them up. I'm here to defend my title. While
I still can let's knock these out.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I think what people don't understand about you guys at
well to weight is that like you're thicker, then people imagine, right,
but all might not look big, but he's got big
old legs. His back is umongous. I think he's a
pretty decent sized welterweight. But there's a clear difference when
you look at Walter Waite and middleweight, right, you get
those guys like is he doesn't look like he could
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make one seventy. And I always tell people that I'm like,
I was never a heavyweight. You know who was a
heavyweight like Derek Lewis and and Kine like those guys,
because no matter what they did then they could never
make two o five, they could never get down to.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Two o five.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So for me watching thelall say that, I just don't
understand the reasoning. I don't understand the reasoning because it's
not needed. And if you're being completely truthful, he does
have the type of stuff that could present problems for
Islama Haya. Yeah, because he has good boxing, he has
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good wrestling, he's good pacing cardio, he can defend take downs.
He seems like the type of guy that would be
a person that could compete with Islam.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Absolutely. So what I'm saying, stay where we're at. Islam's
got two big fights on the horizon. The law has
got a plenty that I just mentioned. They're really does
this discussion doesn't even need to happen, in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But we are because he said it.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I know why he I don't really know why he bothered.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
I mean, if that question when it came up, he
could have just said, hey, look, I want to fight.
I want to fight and defend my title as many
times as I can. I want to summit myself as
one of the best spell to waights. Ever, here's who
I can fight. Yeah, fight shop gut, I can fight here.
You know, like it just kind of start going on
the list.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
You know, how many title defenses does we all have?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Well, I mean I mentioned all those younger guys.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Know how many title defenses does he have? Only? Uh
to be talking about her?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Zero right now?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
How many title defenses?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Well, he's got zero? Zero.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
He won the belt and has not fought since.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I'm right on zero right.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, he won the belt beat On Edwards and hasn't
fought since.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, how can we be talking about him.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Has a fight coming up against shop Cut And.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Remember Shopco shop Cut was supposed to fight him in
December and then uh Shopcout was supposed to fight him
in December, and then we all got the staff infection,
so Shot got fought Ian Machadle Gary.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Aren't they aren't?
Speaker 5 (21:20):
They rumored to be fighting on Maybe UFC three fifteen
is out.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
But I heard as Miami.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's in Miami.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Here fighting the Miami one.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
No, there's might be the mimmy. Hey, what's your schedule
look like in April? Dude?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
You're that do you see?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Three of the three thirteen is when they have Pio.
We have the piano here, So dude, it's the same weekend, Yeah,
same weekend. Now they're not fighting on that card. I
just looked at that card, Daniel.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I was going to offer you up an opportunity for
us to do our first in person show, but you're busy.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Eventually, you're busy.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
When can we do our first? Hey? Can you come
to Vegas March fourth?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
March four? March fourth? That's not a weekend?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Is it our March the pay per view week in
March seventh? Maybe is the pay per view weekend?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Remember, we would have to do it in the week,
right like March the Friday night, we'd have to do
our live show. Yeah, you'd me sit down thirty seconds
and then do it. Or we do International Fight Week.
International Fight Week might work too.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
That might work too. Hey, But I want to get
back to where are these guys fighting?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Blah Mohammed and shap Cut. They're not scheduled to fight, dude.
That's that's why I thought.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So I'm going crazy. I thought I thought it was
or something.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
That's why people come to me and going, well, your
partner said, I'm like who, And they're like Ben, I'm like, he.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Lies all the time.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
No, I don't lie, I said, I know it's true.
I'll say this is true. I said, I thought I
heard that they were fighting. They should be fighting. Why
are they scheduled? Let's put these guys stay off. You
get better from that ship in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Nobody's I think Shapcott hurt himself.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
But listen, they go, they go h Ben said this
it been said, that been I said, I said who?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I said, do you listen to him? Michael, He's a liar.
I find you two podcasts with two liars.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You're a liar in jail. Jail's that's your liar. Jail
will deceive on purpose.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I'm saying, I thought I heard this, and I'm you
are the interesting insider.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I want you to set me straight.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You literally just announced it below.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
No April, Oh my god, you're returned retarded again. That's great.
Twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I take that, Daniel.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I got all my.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I got all my insults back.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Dude, you got him back. What happened? What happened to you?
Why are you like back? You got nice?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
If the culture took him away.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
You had got nice. You had got nice for a while,
and now you're back to being been asked for that guy.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I can't imagine all the insults you just used to
lay on people in the locker room in like two
thousand you imagine, oh my god, you would have been
canceled like twenty seven times. Probably we have one locker
room conver station with Daniel Carmier.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
If they had a camera down there, I'd be done.
I would not be sitting in this position today. I
was bad. So like Daniel's a peta, Daniel's a patas
here if he's like aspas and he's like crazy and loud,
and everybody's like, oh, Daniel is. I'm like, he's actually me.
He's like he literally is my like karma for being
bad when I was a kid. It's growing up. He's
(24:23):
so bad, bro, He's so.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Bad, really fancy stage so he can't be that bad, No.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Dude, he just he's got like this endless energy. He
jumps and he's bouncing off the wall. He's like a
crazy little kid.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Dude. He was yelling last night in the living room
playing video games. Funny. I'm like, fucking stop Daniel, like he's.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Dressing me, dude. All the gray hair in my beards
from Daniel's a.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Payday speak of instigating, I saw a clip of you instigating.
I think Kobe vers Kiss is a good idea. That's
about the same level at this point. I don't see
why not.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I don't know if.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Kobe really wants to fight anymore, is what it seems.
But other than that, I think it's a really good idea.
What are they ranked right now? It's probably somewhere.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Not ranked, but Kobe is Kobe's like nine. Kobe's Hey,
Kobe said that in a couple of years he's gonna do.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
W w Yeah, I mean, what what other skills does
that man have?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Dude? What why? Okay, so can we get to the
bottom of this? Can we get to the bottom of this?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
What?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Why?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What? What's the problem? What's the problem with Kamar roosemank
what's the problem with all the wrestlers? So finistionally, I
thought the problem Kamar Usman was he was black. But
then I was.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
To turnay, okay, did you see did you see that
clip where Kobe trying to give him tomorrow a handshake?
Speaker 5 (25:57):
No way then that and then and then it was
been kind of like denied him. It was on Uh,
he's got like a channel. And then he said I
didn't try to shake his hand, but everyone was screenshotting
him with his hand like like out like that.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Wait tomorrow, waits bring that up.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
They were in Uh, they were in that.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
They were in Vegas last weekend because we're filming The
Ultimate Fighter and Kobe is working with Coach.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Chill in the watch watch so tomorrow just oh that
was and then that was very But then Kolbe said,
I didn't try to shake his hand.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So Kobe did this and then he did this, Oh
my god.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Uh no, these guys I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Obviously, I was trying to pick a fight with him, right,
I mean when I was when I was in the UFC.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
But Kobe, Kobe is generally a douche.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I don't like him.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Uh, Marty, I actually.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Thought I thought we listen.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
That was how I knew him. I thought we were cool.
I thought I thought we were fine. I had no
issue with him. I thought, hey, this guy's a pretty
good wrestler. I can avoid him.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Because when I got to.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
UFC, it was like, I remember, oh Kolbe got hurt,
and that was why it was gonna end up fighting Tyrone.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I thought, all I could just jump out, you jump
over him.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You're gonna fight Tyron.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
No, no, no, I wasn't gonna fight Tyrant.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I was gonna but I was like gonna jump above him,
like without having to fight him. You know, in a ranking,
You're like, who are the easiest guys for me to
fight in the rankings, and then I'm gonna jump my
way towards the top.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
You know. That was kind of what I was thinking.
And I said, Marty, on accident, well not even on an accident.
It was like that was just like, you know, I
died a training center. That was why I knew men.
And then no, no, I'm referencing what I said previously.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Okay, okay, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
And then he got all pissed about it and it
was like, I don't understand what the issue is.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
And then since then I knew I made it mad.
Then I just had to keep it going.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Why why Daniel, you are the king of that. There's
no one that does that more than you do it.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
You can't show, you can't show there doesn't more than
you give a small glimmer hope. If I can look
and see the light there, it is like a little
bit of a light that gets you. I wouldn't touch you.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You can't show no one like that. It bothers you.
You just can't let him see that.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
It is the easiest ever in the history. You're gonna
laugh so hard. Mark Ellis, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I used to drive him crazy. Bro. You know I
would do to him. You know what I would do
to him. You know, we started.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
He was actually my coach when we started the kids club,
like him and I started it together. So when Mark
would be sitting next to the mat right every time,
he would go and sit in a certain chair, I'd
be like, move, Mark.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Move, move so right, So like if he's on the
left side, I would make sure I would Mark, move,
this is the side I love to sit on.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
You know. I would sit on the left w oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And sat on the right because he was trying to
avoid the left chair. I'd go like, Mark, Mark, get
like this chair I like and it would dude, he
would get soap pistol behind a chair because I would
just make you move chairs every time he sat at
the man.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Do you see what I mean?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Now?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
You know exactly what I mean?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Is that good?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Though?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Is that a good one?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
That's right? Mark?
Speaker 5 (29:14):
But the thing with Marc is Mark, sorry putting you
on blast. I don't know if you listen to this
or not. He wouldn't figure out like Daniel, like if
you dance mec like the first time, I probably moved.
The second time, I would be like, why you make
a move again? By the third time, I tell you
kiss my ass? Sorry moving sitting the other chair. But
Mark was too nice.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
He wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
You know I have done it too for fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Oh, tell him to kiss your ass.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
She can't help it, dude, She can't help it. It
doesn't matter what I do. It doesn't matter what I do.
Bro like for fifteen years, make her man, I've done
it for fifteen years, big and it's been successful one
hundred percent of the time. You can't see me coming,
like you can't see me. You can't see me coming.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Get you. I've gotten you on multiple occasions.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
No you haven't.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Then when we're on the Olympic t you're telling me
I couldn't get you.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
No, you liked me because I was the only one
you got the ship, Danielle.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Now I'm the one that I now I remember why,
because I couldn't get you, and you were pretty sharp
about it.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
You were good and that was why you liked me.
That's long we came.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
We still were still friends today.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Because you know, because all the mother dudes let you bully.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And pick on him. Why would he so scared of me?
I didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Hey, we should give a shout out to our Olympic teammate.
Well we have a couple. Yeah, Henry's fighting this weekend because.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Look, did you see what coach swap did in Northern
Iowa did the other day They beat the Iowa States
butt and that place was rocking.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
It was freaking I was rocking.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Dude, Doug Swap is doing a tremendous job over there.
It was kind of like, but like when I see Schwaby,
he's a little bit of he's a little weird man.
He's just like he's small.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, he's all he's just kind of like he's he's
weird and a little bit weird, you know. He's like
not like brands, not like brands weird.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Look that far.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Hey, did you see the other day Tom Terry Brandy.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Ran up in the stands?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Oh my god, he's still awesome?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Is he ever gonna not be awesome?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Grow up? You're fifty five or something? Does he the sands?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Is he never gonna not be awesome? Is the question?
Did you see him?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Did you see him? The other day? They were resting
a duel. It was against Minnesota. It was at one
forty or one forty one.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And the guy was wrestling. No, it's one twenty five,
Joy cres Hey. He's behind the bench, behind the chair
and he's like hiding under the chair and his hands
are on the back of the chair and he's like
bit under and when Joey scores.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
He runs runt of the chair.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I miss that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It was awesome. I'm like, yo, is this guy everybody?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
And he got taken down to go to overtime too.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That he was like sitting underneath chair. He was really
really small. He was scared. He was scared. You scared,
take not have it?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
And he charged around hut No the Nebraska one though,
Daniel He Okay, so some people don't know what we're
talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You remember Terry Brand's brands.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
You'll see twin.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Is the head coach in Iowa. And he listen, he's
too old to be doing this ship. No he's not,
Yeah he is.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
He ran into the stands, taunted a fan from Nebraska.
He did after they wanted to do all they were
it was like it was it was on the rocks
for a minute. They were like, maybe gonna lose and
you canna came through and pends.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
He runs up in the stands and gets in the
fan's face.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Man, when he did it. So he did it at
Oregon State too.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
At Oregon State he started get he got to do
a fight with the football team.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Oh my god, I'm like, yo, he's still yo. Did
I tell you the story like before we go, like
we're going, I gotta go. Did I tell you the
story about when I saw Tom Tom Brand's in Denver? Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, he said in the air, right, we hugged.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Each other ten times because we were so uncomfortable, Like
what do you say to each other?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
He's like my Olympic coach, you know. He randomly sends
me messages like congratulations on being the first black commentator
in the common era of the UFC, in the Mountain era.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Because due one time in black history. But they started
honoring me from being the first black commentator in.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
The really come here, not in the modern era.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Jim Bron was Jim Bron was. Okay, you know who
Jim Bron is, right, the football player.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Yes, my son loves football, so I'm telling him all
about you know who my favorite is.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I bet you're gonna love my favorite who.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
You know my favorite football player is Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
He was the best, wasn't he?
Speaker 4 (33:41):
He was like, it's like you still watch I showed
my son clips on the other day.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
The way he moved was like no one moves like that.
The way he moved was like otherworldly. It was really bizarre.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
It was bizarre.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Isn't it great to show him like Michael Jordan and
Barry Sanders your kids and they're like, this was sports
when you guys would grow No, that's like how I
saw a little Dan always reacts Hey, yeah, so yeah, yeah,
Jim Brownless, you know I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
The first guy.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
So, hey, are you going to say this this year?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I'm calling it again. They got me, they got me.
Remember last year, I was acting like a little baby
because those people were picking on me. Dude, why do
wrestling people pick on me because I have too much fun?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Is it too fun?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Ben?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Hey, let me ask you this. Do you like your
wrestling a little bit more of vanilla? Just be honest?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Do you like your I remember that, I can't remember.
I don't actually remember why people were picking on you.
I do get frustrated when and this would not be you.
I'm not talking about you, about other people. Sometimes they
put commentators on there who don't know a whole bunch
about wrestling, and that annoys the ship out of me.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So now you're telling me I don't know wrestling.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
This is the crazy thing, like where you're trying to
instigate right now?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
I literally said not you, but I think I think
you and who are you commentator? I think you guys
just started talking about something. People are like, hey, hey,
sons of bitches, Like I want you guys to commentate
this match, not just have a conversation about something else.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Have to talk about stuff, man, you have to be interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
You have to what are you talking about? Work on
me or like croche something.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I was talking about maybe Like I was like, hey,
have you ever seen the game Twister? It seems like
this is a game of Twister because these two.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Guys are like rolling around there's it's like that. So
all right, Ben, I'll let you go.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Man, hey guys, there was another episode of Funking the
Champ I've been asking.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'm Daniel Cormier. I'll catch you on the next one piece.
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Speaker 3 (01:41):
What's up, guys, Welcome to a brand new episode of
Funky the Champ. I'm Daniel Cormier. That's my main man,
Ben ascreing. What's up, Funky man? How you been well?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
While it's been a while.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I was thinking you have a huge appointment this Sunday, Ohio,
Oklahoma State, Iowa Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Are you watching it or not?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You know I'm watching it. I'm going Hey, I'm going
on FRL. I've never been. Oh really, I'm going on.
I'm going on FROL Thursday. What's the twenty fourth whatever
dates the.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Oh, that's the Monday after the Monday after.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I'm gonna talk about I'm gonna talk. I don't
even go on podcasts. I'm going on.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
If you think they can winner?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Now, yes, okay, I think we could win.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Twenty five, thirty three, we're gonna have some we're gonna struggle.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, forty one.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh, that's a good one. That's a good Mattric.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You want to say, yes, no, we'll win forty nine,
they win fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
That's team R yeah, team A. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So they went sixty five. It's a that's a mean
in a mean and meaning. So that'll be that's a tough.
Seventy five. You know our guy, our guys like crushing
people right now. Yeah, I mean, he's just a man, bro.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Seventy four they gotta go.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
So Nelson Brands just came back. Since Nelson Brands it
has been Patrick Kennedy Commiditi. I would think it was
the significant.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Eighty four US ninety seven, and that's that's one that's
gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Here's the problem. Really good, but Hendrickson could get bonus
at heavy.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
With that's the problem. Henderson's pinning. Everybody brought a big dog.
The big captain was of cap Yeah. I tell you
I never fell, So I never fell so American. I
didn't even feel as American as I do when I
watched White Henderson when I was in the Olympics, when
I see that.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Big boy from the Air Force come off, what's up? Captain?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I was such a bad wire bro. I was at
the Las Vegas Invitational and saw him and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Whyat he gave right up to me? Game you because
I've seen the captain. When I see him, everybody like
that ben O Man and the orange segment.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Why get you all pumped up?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh? He came running up DC DC. Hey, bro, I
love well.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
America, America.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Let Oklahoma State have him for the year because you know,
he couldn't have any more eligibility at the Air Force Academy.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And they gifted him to Okama's there for one year.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, they didn't gift them. I mean, we worked really
hard to have them.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And honestly, hey, hey, thank it to the old staff
setting the wheels in motions before they left. People do
know that all those transfers are already there.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Whenever the.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Bro I swear to God, the seventy four pounder was
already amediate. Actually I heard that about Committee, mean was
going there like those guys were going there. But I mean,
obviously David when David got the job and made it
easier to make the commitment. But Committee and and the
heavyweight thing was already in the works. And uhh, we
got a lot of transfers. Forty one are transfer fifty
(04:36):
seven is a transfer.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
A lot of transfers Jamison came together.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So it is what it is.
But whatever, Hey, bro, we got to talk about MMA.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I would talk to you about Russell all day, but
we have to talk about MMA. So yo, could I
be honest with you? And I don't like, I don't
like I don't like being supportive. So John Jones the
other day was like freaking out walking down the street
and he was say and some crazy stuf about his kid,
And uh.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Benn, you know what's crazy?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You said he was on vacation. I didn't know he
was on vacation.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I thought he was on vacation. That was on vacation.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Okay, if he was on vacation, haven't we all been there?
Maybe not that extreme, but it's like our kids driver
is crazy. And you know what the worst part is
when you go back to that hotel room, you're the
bad guy. Everybody's found a way to make you're the
bad guy because you're upset about them being bad. And
so I don't want to defend him, but I mean, yeah,
(05:31):
I mean, come on, man, he's got like not say
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Kill him, but like, oh my god, my children are
being so bad. Have we not all been there?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
You know what, Amy, Amy lose their temper more than me.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I read this article on how when the kids argue,
it actually makes him like smarter and they're like honing
their argument skills. So I'm like, ah, I don't really
love it, but I'm just gonna lock in and tune
them out.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And Amy Amy like you just jop arguing back there.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
He imagine if we saw Amy walking on the street
on her vacation just mumbling to it.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So I don't know she had those emotions, she walking around.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Her kids, as kicking her kids as I mean, that
was that was just crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm not, oh my god, funny. Okay, but listen, we're
not going to talk about that. I just figured we
should mention it because why we're okay. So we have
a whole bunch of fights.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
One that they're still trying to make, you know, with
John Jones is the tom aspinall thing. Dana say he's
working on a National Fight Week, But that's not the story.
The story is Franciston Ghan, who's saying that he believes
the fight could happen if not for Dana White. Dana
White's the big obstacle, Francis said, But are we ready
to kind of just let go of the Frankston Gano,
(06:47):
Like if you didn't make Tom Aspinalll like, he's not
gonna get the fight John Jones.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Uh, Fransston gan Who right?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
That didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I don't know why, you know, obviously I was outside
of the UFC for a long time, and I always
had the desire, but it was like, yes, I would
love to fight these guys. But I'm under no delusion
that Dana White is going to do some type of
co promote or something, because he just doesn't do that,
you know. So the idea that Francis is gonna fight John,
that's a pipe dream.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You see.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
That's the difference between you and most fighters, Like you know,
you're like that data's not gonna have some favor I
think fighters believe that. My going publicans saying that it
might actually happen.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Well, there's just Dana is just so stuck.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I mean, this has been the case for a while,
and I guess I suppose although it can be frustrating
for the fighters, you know, the UFC brand, it's almost
like you can kind of put anyone there on a
Saturday night, you're gonna get X amount of people to
tune in, like you're going to get some solid viewership.
And so Dana has almost always put brand above athlete,
and you know, it's been pretty rare when someone could
(07:51):
break through, like like a Connor. But then you can
see even then when Connor breaks through as big as
he became, Dana still doesn't fold in negotiations to him.
You know, he's got about the main weather thing. But
then after that it's kind of been like kiss my
ass Connor.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, kind of like Connor became big, bigger, honestly, he
felt bigger than the brand.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
But they always.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Would say stuff like the UFC will always go on
regardless of what happens, like when one person leaves, always
in the USC because they built it to that point.
And when you talk about cross promotion, it's almost like
there really is no point.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
They don't have to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And in business, in most instances, right the powerful entity
doesn't generally sway. You have to make adjustments and you
have to make uh.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Uh, you have to give in to be on their side.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
So if there is a a cross promotion or if
there is a hope of Francis and Ganho fighting John
Jones and getting back to that, it would have to
be in the UFC, yes, And I don't know at
this point if either of those parties want to entertain that,
because it didn't feel like France's life the UFC at
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the end, he felt like he should be doing much better.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He left with a ton of power.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Though as the world champion, so he's been able to
make a very successful career outside of the UFC. But
it still feels like if he's gonna get that fight,
if he wants that fight, as much as it seems
like he might want that fight, he's not to go
back to the UFC.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
To go back to the UFC.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And you know, I mean, the one thing I wanted
to do. I wanted to try to be the best
in the world. And I know that's why you went
without without fighting, without fighting the right people. Francis has
already already achieved that, and so maybe he doesn't feel
the need. And I do believe, oh my gosh, your
camera's freaking me out, how it zoom?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
That's weird.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
But Francis, I believe, I don't think he's lying I
don't know. This is debatable, but I believe he made
significally more money doing the boxing fights outside of the UFC,
And so it's like, hey, if you've already proved you're
the best in the world, and listen, there was this
John Jones and because he John Jones didn't fight for
for your window or whatever, but yeah, go make you
(10:02):
already prove your best world. Go make a whole bunch
more money. I think that's great. But if he does
want to fight John Jones, he's gonna have to come back.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
He just says that that's the issue, right, because he
feels like they can make that. But he said he's
not losing much sleep about it because he's being he's
been very successful.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
He's very happy, and he's doing things his own way.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, with all the stuff that Francis went through, right,
losing his son Kobe, uh, coming back fighting Hinton Ferreira,
now it sounds like he's gonna box again.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Man. I did. I did a video on this the
other day and said.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Francis wants to box again, but this time against Deontay Wilder.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Uh, he's good, dude, Can you believe that?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Well, after the first one he like, he did really
good and we're like wow. In the second one he
didn't do quite so well. So now it's like, is
there a strong desire to see him box again?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I think he's actually like you know, like say a
Mike Tyson or something where you know, in the PFL,
if a lot of them, if a lot of people
don't have if they don't have compelling opponents, it's going
to be not that much desire. But I think people
would tune in to watch Francis and Guio take Tho's
head off with a massive uppercut or something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So I do feel that. But with the boxing.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
So my thought on the boxing was this, I didn't
like him fighting boxing against the best boxer in the world.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Initially, then he fought Tyson Fury.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
So well, so I was like, oh, well, maybe he
can box, right, But then here was the here was
the issue, right, So here was the issue. He fought
Tyson Fury, and I thought he fought Tyson Fury relatively well.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, to say that.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
He's a he's an amateur, an amateur boxer fighting against
the world champion.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
But then when he got the fight against Anthony Joshua.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I was kind of happy because I was like, well,
Anthony Joshua is traditionally like the most conservative of those
big time boxing champions because he doesn't want to get hurt.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He's been knocked out, and then he knocks Francis out
the way that he does.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Deontay Wilder is like Francis, but he actually boxes, He
throws wild He does not have.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
To control himself, but it gets really hard and.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
He hits really really hard.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, and Francis even said somebody's going to sleep like
ninety percent who wants to be involved in something while
you know somebody's nine out of ten times somebody's getting
knocked out.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I supposed to be think it's you if you either,
you're the ones good doing the knocking out.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Pine out a big deal, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But after that, like after getting slept the way he did.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, that would be yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Here, I think he should just tell the PFL line it,
line me up some uh subpark competition and let me
take their heads off.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Because I think he'd be I think he still makes
big money for the fighting in m met Yeah. I
believe probably make it like three four million dollars a fight,
maybe five yeah, very solid.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
The number I heard he was getting from the UFC
was crazy. They said the high or low seven million
a fight to stay. Really that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Ben Real, Yes, of course that's really good.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That's really good. I heard they offered him seven million
per fight to stay all on.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Then I got you on the new contract. But yeah,
not what he was making. That was the new offer.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That was the offer to try to keep him.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, but been.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Uh man, it's interesting, but I don't think he's gonna
fight again Jones. Listen, I don't even know if you
had uh what's that Calshi the new polling thing that
everyone's doing.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You see this, it was a presidential It took off
for the presidential lessons. That was all that, all that,
oh my god, beg markets.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yes, but been all that like new betting, new gam
new new new new voting. It's all just to make
our country just more and more fight with each other.
Well this was this, This one says this was It's like,
it's the craziest thing to work.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Okay, but if there was a Calshy odds on does
John Jones fight again?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I believe they would be less than fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You don't think he's gonna fight again.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I think I think it would be less than fifty percent.
I think it would be somewhere around third twenty thirty
percent that he fights again. I mean, John's not young.
He's thirty, probably thirty nine, thirty eight not young.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, some more in that range. No, No, No, like
thirty seven, dude, he's like thirty.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
No, he's maxis and age.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
He's like thirty seven years old.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Damn you you're right, thirty seven. That's thirty eight. So
that's what I was saying. Thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, he's like thirty seven years old. He's young.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I thought I thought the guy all them times, or
at least was scheduled to fight him all the times.
I knew I was old, and I knew that he
was really really young.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So all right, but yeah, I would I would say
if if there was odds, I think it's less than
half that he ever fights again.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Oh, I think he's gonna fight again. I just like
Tom Hey, butl Mohammed said, that's your boy, that's your.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
I like Paul never super cold. I like him, but
we weren't that close, so I don't know. Saying your
boy is maybe a little more extreme, just to be clear.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
To be clear, that's you. That's you getting scared as
to what I'm gonna say next. So you're trying to
go as it has as a baseline. Just no, I
like him, which you can't say we're really cool. The
spear would sticks.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Okay, So your boy Balh Mohammad, Yes, right, there's a
lot of rumblings. Islamahachev is a very dominant champion from
a weight blow right, Yeah, balal Mohammad says, I don't know, man,
it felt like it felt like Islam wasn't as against
(15:30):
it or to me. Blah said, I would never fight
Islam because that's a difference for him and me. We've
trained together, and when you're sweating with somebody and you're
bleeding with somebody and you train with somebody like that,
it's a different relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I wouldn't be about the money for me or for him.
I would assume I would ever want to do that.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
They've helped me so much, so I'd rather go to
one eighty five and let him just take the one
seventy belt if that's the case.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
That was crazy statement.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
He br br like. So I was in a situation
with Kave Alaskaz, but and I had I every day,
but every day we trained like I was never away
from kve Alaskaz. I knew Cave Alaska is his family.
I was in his house.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, we loll says, I mean, does that relationship doing
a couple of training camp together warrant that type of statement?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Well, I mean I was just thinking, like, not even that,
but why does he have to he didn't give up
his title, Like, but Islam has one fifty five and
you got one seventy, so and honestly, at one seventy,
there's kind of a lot of good fights for Bolalda
still have some younger up and comers. Uh Dla met Atlanta.
Uh He's fighting Shavka. Right, there's kind of a few
(16:44):
guys and that they could fight. I mean, Islam has
a little bit cleaned out one fifty five, so maybe
that's the problem. I guess he still can fight Serookie
and even that one fell through, but it feels like
they have their spots. And then uh Islam also has
the Poria fight. So Islam's got his thing, Ball's got
his saying why does Ball need to move? It's kind
(17:04):
of silly, you know, And awesomely, so that in that case,
I'd be like, dude, if for buddies, why are you
trying to come up here? You got you got two
good fights. You can have armand and then you can
have Ilia. Those are two good fights. I got my
fights that I'm gonna have, Like why do we need
to be doing this?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Do you think it was just like not the right
timing for it.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It's like it's not realistically a thing right now because
of all the reasons you just stated, like yeah, it's
not a pressing matter like that Islam's on his way
up right now. I need to get out of the
weight class or even state that I would move weight classes,
or you think it's just about getting ahead of it,
Like I know what I would do. I'm gonna let
the world know what I would do so that I
(17:42):
don't deal with all the stuff that comes with If
this man says I want to fight at one seven.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I just I don't know. I don't know why hate
by this saying that, and.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
If he, if he and so the other thing I
feel about the ball and this is the weight classing
is one seventy is the right weight class for him.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
He's not small for the weight class. I think he's
just just about the right size.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
He's also not gigantic for the weight class where it's like,
oh my god, how is he making that weight? He
has to move up right, and there is a it's
fifteen pounds, it's not not a tiny gap. So there
is generally a size difference between a good size one
eighty five and a good size one seventy. Those are
different things in my opinion. And obviously there are certain
(18:21):
guys who are very big for the weldweight that are
very you know, small for middleweight, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But I think he should stay at well toweight.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I looked, he's thirty six years old, right, which is
if we will historically well, it's start to decline. He
needs he There's plenty of guys he can fight, so
I mentioned Shop Gott, I mentioned Deila Medelena, Joaquin Buckley's
doing a good job at that weight class. Sean Brady's
doing a good job at that weight class. Machatle Gary
could get a few. I mean, there's like a lot
of young guys to fight. He should say, hey, young guys,
(18:50):
line them up. I'm here to defend my title. While
I still can let's knock these out.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I think what people don't understand about you guys at
well to weight is that like you're thicker, then people imagine, right,
but all might not look big, but he's got big
old legs. His back is umongous. I think he's a
pretty decent sized welterweight. But there's a clear difference when
you look at Walter Waite and middleweight, right, you get
those guys like is he doesn't look like he could
(19:16):
make one seventy. And I always tell people that I'm like,
I was never a heavyweight. You know who was a
heavyweight like Derek Lewis and and Kine like those guys,
because no matter what they did then they could never
make two o five, they could never get down to.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Two o five.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So for me watching thelall say that, I just don't
understand the reasoning. I don't understand the reasoning because it's
not needed. And if you're being completely truthful, he does
have the type of stuff that could present problems for
Islama Haya. Yeah, because he has good boxing, he has
(19:53):
good wrestling, he's good pacing cardio, he can defend take downs.
He seems like the type of guy that would be
a person that could compete with Islam.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Absolutely. So what I'm saying, stay where we're at. Islam's
got two big fights on the horizon. The law has
got a plenty that I just mentioned. They're really does
this discussion doesn't even need to happen, in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But we are because he said it.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I know why he I don't really know why he bothered.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
I mean, if that question when it came up, he
could have just said, hey, look, I want to fight.
I want to fight and defend my title as many
times as I can. I want to summit myself as
one of the best spell to waights. Ever, here's who
I can fight. Yeah, fight shop gut, I can fight here.
You know, like it just kind of start going on
the list.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
You know, how many title defenses does we all have?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Well, I mean I mentioned all those younger guys.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Know how many title defenses does he have? Only? Uh
to be talking about her?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Zero right now?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
How many title defenses?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Well, he's got zero? Zero.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
He won the belt and has not fought since.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I'm right on zero right.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, he won the belt beat On Edwards and hasn't
fought since.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, how can we be talking about him.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Has a fight coming up against shop Cut And.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Remember Shopco shop Cut was supposed to fight him in
December and then uh Shopcout was supposed to fight him
in December, and then we all got the staff infection,
so Shot got fought Ian Machadle Gary.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Aren't they aren't?
Speaker 5 (21:20):
They rumored to be fighting on Maybe UFC three fifteen
is out.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
But I heard as Miami.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's in Miami.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Here fighting the Miami one.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
No, there's might be the mimmy. Hey, what's your schedule
look like in April? Dude?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
You're that do you see?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Three of the three thirteen is when they have Pio.
We have the piano here, So dude, it's the same weekend, Yeah,
same weekend. Now they're not fighting on that card. I
just looked at that card, Daniel.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I was going to offer you up an opportunity for
us to do our first in person show, but you're busy.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Eventually, you're busy.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
When can we do our first? Hey? Can you come
to Vegas March fourth?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
March four? March fourth? That's not a weekend?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Is it our March the pay per view week in
March seventh? Maybe is the pay per view weekend?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Remember, we would have to do it in the week,
right like March the Friday night, we'd have to do
our live show. Yeah, you'd me sit down thirty seconds
and then do it. Or we do International Fight Week.
International Fight Week might work too.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
That might work too. Hey, But I want to get
back to where are these guys fighting?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Blah Mohammed and shap Cut. They're not scheduled to fight, dude.
That's that's why I thought.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So I'm going crazy. I thought I thought it was
or something.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
That's why people come to me and going, well, your
partner said, I'm like who, And they're like Ben, I'm like, he.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Lies all the time.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
No, I don't lie, I said, I know it's true.
I'll say this is true. I said, I thought I
heard that they were fighting. They should be fighting. Why
are they scheduled? Let's put these guys stay off. You
get better from that ship in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Nobody's I think Shapcott hurt himself.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
But listen, they go, they go h Ben said this
it been said, that been I said, I said who?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I said, do you listen to him? Michael, He's a liar.
I find you two podcasts with two liars.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You're a liar in jail. Jail's that's your liar. Jail
will deceive on purpose.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I'm saying, I thought I heard this, and I'm you
are the interesting insider.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I want you to set me straight.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You literally just announced it below.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
No April, Oh my god, you're returned retarded again. That's great.
Twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I take that, Daniel.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I got all my.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I got all my insults back.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Dude, you got him back. What happened? What happened to you?
Why are you like back? You got nice?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
If the culture took him away.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
You had got nice. You had got nice for a while,
and now you're back to being been asked for that guy.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I can't imagine all the insults you just used to
lay on people in the locker room in like two
thousand you imagine, oh my god, you would have been
canceled like twenty seven times. Probably we have one locker
room conver station with Daniel Carmier.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
If they had a camera down there, I'd be done.
I would not be sitting in this position today. I
was bad. So like Daniel's a peta, Daniel's a patas
here if he's like aspas and he's like crazy and loud,
and everybody's like, oh, Daniel is. I'm like, he's actually me.
He's like he literally is my like karma for being
bad when I was a kid. It's growing up. He's
(24:23):
so bad, bro, He's so.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Bad, really fancy stage so he can't be that bad, No.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Dude, he just he's got like this endless energy. He
jumps and he's bouncing off the wall. He's like a
crazy little kid.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Dude. He was yelling last night in the living room
playing video games. Funny. I'm like, fucking stop Daniel, like he's.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Dressing me, dude. All the gray hair in my beards
from Daniel's a.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Payday speak of instigating, I saw a clip of you instigating.
I think Kobe vers Kiss is a good idea. That's
about the same level at this point. I don't see
why not.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I don't know if.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Kobe really wants to fight anymore, is what it seems.
But other than that, I think it's a really good idea.
What are they ranked right now? It's probably somewhere.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Not ranked, but Kobe is Kobe's like nine. Kobe's Hey,
Kobe said that in a couple of years he's gonna do.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
W w Yeah, I mean, what what other skills does
that man have?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Dude? What why? Okay, so can we get to the
bottom of this? Can we get to the bottom of this?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
What?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Why?
Speaker 4 (25:28):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What? What's the problem? What's the problem with Kamar roosemank
what's the problem with all the wrestlers? So finistionally, I
thought the problem Kamar Usman was he was black. But
then I was.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
To turnay, okay, did you see did you see that
clip where Kobe trying to give him tomorrow a handshake?
Speaker 5 (25:57):
No way then that and then and then it was
been kind of like denied him. It was on Uh,
he's got like a channel. And then he said I
didn't try to shake his hand, but everyone was screenshotting
him with his hand like like out like that.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Wait tomorrow, waits bring that up.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
They were in Uh, they were in that.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
They were in Vegas last weekend because we're filming The
Ultimate Fighter and Kobe is working with Coach.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Chill in the watch watch so tomorrow just oh that
was and then that was very But then Kolbe said,
I didn't try to shake his hand.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So Kobe did this and then he did this, Oh
my god.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Uh no, these guys I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Obviously, I was trying to pick a fight with him, right,
I mean when I was when I was in the UFC.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
But Kobe, Kobe is generally a douche.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I don't like him.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Uh, Marty, I actually.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Thought I thought we listen.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
That was how I knew him. I thought we were cool.
I thought I thought we were fine. I had no
issue with him. I thought, hey, this guy's a pretty
good wrestler. I can avoid him.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Because when I got to.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
UFC, it was like, I remember, oh Kolbe got hurt,
and that was why it was gonna end up fighting Tyrone.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I thought, all I could just jump out, you jump
over him.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You're gonna fight Tyron.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
No, no, no, I wasn't gonna fight Tyrant.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I was gonna but I was like gonna jump above him,
like without having to fight him. You know, in a ranking,
You're like, who are the easiest guys for me to
fight in the rankings, and then I'm gonna jump my
way towards the top.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
You know. That was kind of what I was thinking.
And I said, Marty, on accident, well not even on an accident.
It was like that was just like, you know, I
died a training center. That was why I knew men.
And then no, no, I'm referencing what I said previously.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Okay, okay, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
And then he got all pissed about it and it
was like, I don't understand what the issue is.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
And then since then I knew I made it mad.
Then I just had to keep it going.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Why why Daniel, you are the king of that. There's
no one that does that more than you do it.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
You can't show, you can't show there doesn't more than
you give a small glimmer hope. If I can look
and see the light there, it is like a little
bit of a light that gets you. I wouldn't touch you.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You can't show no one like that. It bothers you.
You just can't let him see that.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
It is the easiest ever in the history. You're gonna
laugh so hard. Mark Ellis, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I used to drive him crazy. Bro. You know I
would do to him. You know what I would do
to him. You know, we started.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
He was actually my coach when we started the kids club,
like him and I started it together. So when Mark
would be sitting next to the mat right every time,
he would go and sit in a certain chair, I'd
be like, move, Mark.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Move, move so right, So like if he's on the
left side, I would make sure I would Mark, move,
this is the side I love to sit on.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
You know. I would sit on the left w oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And sat on the right because he was trying to
avoid the left chair. I'd go like, Mark, Mark, get
like this chair I like and it would dude, he
would get soap pistol behind a chair because I would
just make you move chairs every time he sat at
the man.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Do you see what I mean?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Now?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
You know exactly what I mean?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Is that good?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Though?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Is that a good one?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
That's right? Mark?
Speaker 5 (29:14):
But the thing with Marc is Mark, sorry putting you
on blast. I don't know if you listen to this
or not. He wouldn't figure out like Daniel, like if
you dance mec like the first time, I probably moved.
The second time, I would be like, why you make
a move again? By the third time, I tell you
kiss my ass? Sorry moving sitting the other chair. But
Mark was too nice.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
He wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
You know I have done it too for fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Oh, tell him to kiss your ass.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
She can't help it, dude, She can't help it. It
doesn't matter what I do. It doesn't matter what I do.
Bro like for fifteen years, make her man, I've done
it for fifteen years, big and it's been successful one
hundred percent of the time. You can't see me coming,
like you can't see me. You can't see me coming.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Get you. I've gotten you on multiple occasions.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
No you haven't.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Then when we're on the Olympic t you're telling me
I couldn't get you.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
No, you liked me because I was the only one
you got the ship, Danielle.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Now I'm the one that I now I remember why,
because I couldn't get you, and you were pretty sharp
about it.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
You were good and that was why you liked me.
That's long we came.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
We still were still friends today.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Because you know, because all the mother dudes let you bully.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And pick on him. Why would he so scared of me?
I didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Hey, we should give a shout out to our Olympic teammate.
Well we have a couple. Yeah, Henry's fighting this weekend because.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Look, did you see what coach swap did in Northern
Iowa did the other day They beat the Iowa States
butt and that place was rocking.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
It was freaking I was rocking.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Dude, Doug Swap is doing a tremendous job over there.
It was kind of like, but like when I see Schwaby,
he's a little bit of he's a little weird man.
He's just like he's small.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, he's all he's just kind of like he's he's
weird and a little bit weird, you know. He's like
not like brands, not like brands weird.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Look that far.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Hey, did you see the other day Tom Terry Brandy.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Ran up in the stands?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Oh my god, he's still awesome?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Is he ever gonna not be awesome?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Grow up? You're fifty five or something? Does he the sands?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Is he never gonna not be awesome? Is the question?
Did you see him?
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Did you see him? The other day? They were resting
a duel. It was against Minnesota. It was at one
forty or one forty one.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And the guy was wrestling. No, it's one twenty five,
Joy cres Hey. He's behind the bench, behind the chair
and he's like hiding under the chair and his hands
are on the back of the chair and he's like
bit under and when Joey scores.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
He runs runt of the chair.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I miss that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It was awesome. I'm like, yo, is this guy everybody?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
And he got taken down to go to overtime too.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That he was like sitting underneath chair. He was really
really small. He was scared. He was scared. You scared,
take not have it?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
And he charged around hut No the Nebraska one though,
Daniel He Okay, so some people don't know what we're
talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You remember Terry Brand's brands.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
You'll see twin.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Is the head coach in Iowa. And he listen, he's
too old to be doing this ship. No he's not,
Yeah he is.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
He ran into the stands, taunted a fan from Nebraska.
He did after they wanted to do all they were
it was like it was it was on the rocks
for a minute. They were like, maybe gonna lose and
you canna came through and pends.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
He runs up in the stands and gets in the
fan's face.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Man, when he did it. So he did it at
Oregon State too.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
At Oregon State he started get he got to do
a fight with the football team.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Oh my god, I'm like, yo, he's still yo. Did
I tell you the story like before we go, like
we're going, I gotta go. Did I tell you the
story about when I saw Tom Tom Brand's in Denver? Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, he said in the air, right, we hugged.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Each other ten times because we were so uncomfortable, Like
what do you say to each other?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
He's like my Olympic coach, you know. He randomly sends
me messages like congratulations on being the first black commentator
in the common era of the UFC, in the Mountain era.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Because due one time in black history. But they started
honoring me from being the first black commentator in.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
The really come here, not in the modern era.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Jim Bron was Jim Bron was. Okay, you know who
Jim Bron is, right, the football player.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Yes, my son loves football, so I'm telling him all
about you know who my favorite is.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I bet you're gonna love my favorite who.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
You know my favorite football player is Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
He was the best, wasn't he?
Speaker 4 (33:41):
He was like, it's like you still watch I showed
my son clips on the other day.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
The way he moved was like no one moves like that.
The way he moved was like otherworldly. It was really bizarre.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
It was bizarre.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Isn't it great to show him like Michael Jordan and
Barry Sanders your kids and they're like, this was sports
when you guys would grow No, that's like how I
saw a little Dan always reacts Hey, yeah, so yeah, yeah,
Jim Brownless, you know I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
The first guy.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
So, hey, are you going to say this this year?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I'm calling it again. They got me, they got me.
Remember last year, I was acting like a little baby
because those people were picking on me. Dude, why do
wrestling people pick on me because I have too much fun?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Is it too fun?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Ben?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Hey, let me ask you this. Do you like your
wrestling a little bit more of vanilla? Just be honest?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Do you like your I remember that, I can't remember.
I don't actually remember why people were picking on you.
I do get frustrated when and this would not be you.
I'm not talking about you, about other people. Sometimes they
put commentators on there who don't know a whole bunch
about wrestling, and that annoys the ship out of me.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So now you're telling me I don't know wrestling.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
This is the crazy thing, like where you're trying to
instigate right now?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
I literally said not you, but I think I think
you and who are you commentator? I think you guys
just started talking about something. People are like, hey, hey,
sons of bitches, Like I want you guys to commentate
this match, not just have a conversation about something else.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Have to talk about stuff, man, you have to be interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
You have to what are you talking about? Work on
me or like croche something.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I was talking about maybe Like I was like, hey,
have you ever seen the game Twister? It seems like
this is a game of Twister because these two.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Guys are like rolling around there's it's like that. So
all right, Ben, I'll let you go.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Man, hey guys, there was another episode of Funking the
Champ I've been asking.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'm Daniel Cormier. I'll catch you on the next one piece.
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