February 19, 2025 • 41 mins
2 Pros and a Cup of Joe fill in on The Herd, and the NFL continues to build their international fandom by kicking off next season in Sao Paulo with the Chargers. The Panther keep Andy Dalton to develop Bryce Young. And Deion Sanders refuses to make house calls when recruiting
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
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you in for calling here on this Wednesday. We will
be taking you all the way up until three o'clock
Eastern time, that's noon Pacific time. As we get you off,
he's doing it again in it. He's doing it again.
(00:51):
Full moon sighting in studio here. Yeah, who knew? It's
a black moon of black history, monk. Definitely, Lee, put
your fist down, throw yours up to lead, Put your
fist down, throw your black fist up. Lee. But uh,
we we are rock and rolling here on a Wednesday.
(01:13):
How we feeling, boys? How's every body feeling here on
this on this fine Wednesday? As we get said, I
just want to know if Q went into the steam
room for for thirty five forty minutes, that's all I want.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
You didn't say thirty five, You said forty forty, and
no I did not. She consulted with a physician and
they said, whoever you've ever told you that needs to
stop passing along these Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That's the world you live in, Q, that's the world
you live in. F that that physician you're talking to,
doctor La Brother, I'm telling you, God, forty minutes, all
that gook come up out of you. Everything you good
to go? Forty yep, thirty five forty. I feel like
you're trying to kill me off the show at this point.
No way, you're trying to know what it is. No way.
(01:55):
Just some of us is just a different you know
what I mean? Like that physician sees soft people everyday, people,
normal people like you. You're not normal, bro, You're you're There's
no there's no deals between mermidens and men, lions and men,
there's no deal. There's no packs. You know, Troy Kiley's
told us that in Troy. You know what I mean,
(02:15):
You're different, bro, But if you want to be like
everybody else, you'd be like everybody else. Man. That's cool, Okay,
you and your physician. I'd like to be alive. God
bless you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I've been doing that for like five six years seven.
I would love to witness this.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I would love to sit there with a timer and
actually see if you sit in there for forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, anytime, anytime, A right, anytime? How hot does it get?
I did it this morning. When I go that long,
I stay at one ten. When I do twenty twenty
to thirty, thirty, twenty to thirty, I do like one twenty.
I do one twenty with a sweatsuit on and socks
on my hands and my feet. I feeling that. No,
(02:54):
that's important because you don't want to burn your toes
or anything like that, you know, just telling you when
you feel really good, man, like you feel like clear, clean, rejuvenated,
like you feel good. I mean my eyes be fire
at fire red. But other than that, you know, you're
you're good, nice and relaxed. Yeah, it's good. But anyways,
(03:16):
that's just for you know, people like me. You know
that's all. You know. I'll take that. I want you
to be alive too, you know what I mean. I'm
not trying to kill you off. This is not an assassinator.
This is not a self inflicted assassination attempt on you.
I promise, thank you, sir. It's all good man. It's
not a coup na, not at all. What are we cooing?
I'm not taking over anything anyways. This is the Colin
(03:39):
cow Herds. This is the herd. It would be it
would be sweet if we did find out this was
all an attempt so that his big dune kickoff spot this.
I certainly would not get his big note talk about leap. Yeah,
I don't get the criteria to take Brady Quinn's seaton
(04:00):
just say, just saying why not. I certainly would not
clear it up for LeVar Arrington just so working. So
that's easily not what it would be for what seems
to be missing. Well you tell them Johnson, all right,
so it is Black History month, so if there were
time to do it, it'd be now you know what
I mean, try to leverage it, that's right. Yeah, and
(04:22):
you got thirty one No, it's only twenty eight days
in the Yeah, it's not many. I don't give you
a long month. Yeah, I say, why didn't they give
you a long They don't give you a long month.
They give you the shortest month. You know what I
mean let's get it in, get it out, get it done.
I can agree to here, guys. Okay, let's not let's
not get carried away, you know, suttled down, all right?
(04:43):
All right? So alrighty. Then, speaking of the NFL, not
that we talked about the NFL there, but the NFL.
There was an announcement that was made. So remember that
game in Brazil last year and open up the season
on a Friday night, you had the Packers and the Eagles.
It was the night after the opener between the Ravens
and the Chiefs, and that game was presented in Brazil.
(05:04):
Apparently we're going to be going back there, and we
already know who the team designated as the home team
is going to be. That team to open up the
first Friday of the season this year as none other
than the Los Angeles Chargers. They will be in Brazil.
So the Bolts are going to bring be in Brazil,
which begs the question, well, a couple of questions. First,
(05:27):
I guess last year went okay, I guess last year
went well enough that they're returning. Second, who are they
going to be playing? And we do have some options
and some teams that are out there that would be
potential options for the Chargers when they're opening up the
season as the home team. You got your divisional games
and then you've got your Texans, Colts, Commanders, Steelers, Vikings,
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and Eagles. I'm assuming they're not going to send Philly
back there, obviously they just won the Super Bowl. Well
when we're just in Brazil, but that would make sense
because they open up the year. That's the Thursday tradition. Oh,
the Super Bowl champ always opens up the season the
next year, like the Chiefs did. You're clearly establishing the
Chargers as the home team. So is that a market?
(06:11):
Are you trying to position them just like maybe the
Jaguars are being positioned for for Wimberley?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Can I ask this question? And excuse me if I
miss this amongst and discussing who's playing?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Who's it a home game for Chargers?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Okay, so technically be a CBS game, right because they
have the rights to that, unless again I'm wrong in
assuming how these games get swapped. But usually NFC is CBS,
AFC is no excuse me, other the way around. So
it's AFC, so it would be a CBS game, but
NFC is Fox.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It was Peacock last year the Open, it was okay,
there you go.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
So maybe and the reason why this matters, you know,
it just so happens that, you know, if you're a prominent,
you know, figure, like the number one guy at a network,
maybe you would or wouldn't want to go.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Back down to Brazil to call a game. I want
to go. I one would go to Saio.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I don't doubt that you would want to go. I'm
just saying for something to touch a subject there.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, I get it. Like you know, jiu jitsu and
all that stuff, that's where's that's where it comes from.
That's where it originates from. And when you know that
jiu jitsu, you know, you know how to manipulate your
body and put people in choke holds and locks and
leg locks and submissions. Submission is a big one. Q.
That is a big one. And that might be why
(07:38):
that person doesn't want to go call the game? Good call?
You know why submit? You're a champion, you know, ultimate champion. Yeah,
there you go many times over. But I would say this,
I would venture to say, there are plenty more models
out there that would probably we're Victoria's secrets or or
do a you know, a sports illustrated shoe for the cover,
(08:01):
and I'm just saying I would do it. At what
point are we at getting to the I guess the
eventual spot of now we're kind of going overseas a
little bit too much, like they're trying to expand the borders.
That's why I'm leading off with with my thought is
what is the ultimate goal for the Bolts? You have
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two teams in a market where it's a super large
media market. But let's be clear here, it's it's not
the greatest for the NFL. It's not the best media
of the market for football team. You think the Bolts
are going to Brazil? I mean the South Paulo Bolts.
I mean, is it the possibility that you could expand
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your borders to a very large market and extend your
your growth of your fan base into South America? Lee?
Can you look up or is that South America? Central America?
Is that South America? South South America? Can you look
up Chargers in Portuguese? Like, what's the like? How do
we say that? And I mean, by the way, since
(09:07):
they're going to Brazil, they're real lucky that security guard
is not working for the team. Anymore, because that that
would have been dicey a whole lot of hand in
his pocket. Yeah, that would have been real, real dice
with their soccer. Uh kind of gottos? What what kinda godas?
Kinda Godasktta Goododas the Los Angeles kinda gododas can get
(09:29):
my pocket? Yeah? Oh no, I don't know. I don't
know what's wrong with you, guys? Man? Could you just
be professional for once, just once in your bleeping career.
Be professional. We're trying to talk about the NFL going
to Brazil, and you guys are trying to steer us
into the ditch, and you clearly hit a saturation point
in fan base and fan growth in America. You maxed
(09:54):
out when you went to Taylor Swift and started leaning
on her to be more appealing to the female audience.
Like you've met, You're they are maxing out in the
United States? What do you mean? There's still there's a
lot of people didn't watch the Super Bowl, and those
people probably get those people. Those people probably aren't going
to watch it. They're probably not going to watch it,
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and probably a lot of them are in California that
aren't going to watch it. I just think that expanding
the borders, that's always been something that that has been
a major point of emphasis, especially since Goodell has been
the commissioner of the league. And you're talking about how
they've they've you know, had the combat the concussions, you know,
(10:39):
the concussions deal. They've they've leaned very very deep into
flag football, turning it into a more global sport, you know, globally,
you know, embraced, globally consumed. It's going to be a
part of the Olympics that comes to to the United States.
I mean, there's just if you look at how the
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position of it, the positioning of it is, you know,
they're expanding their borders. The NFL Euro didn't work. I
don't know why it didn't work, but it didn't work.
But nonetheless, there is still an audience that is abroad
that the NFL is targeting, and it must be based
upon the information that they're collecting and the data that
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they're collecting and seeing who is participating. And I guess,
I guess this part of Brazil, this part of South
America checks off the box to continue to try to
develop there. I mean, to me, that's how I make
sense of it. I could be all the way wrong,
but that's how I make sense of it.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I think you're always going to have a hard time
in breaking into like what is the world sport?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Which is soccer? I mean or football?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
They would say ever sives, But you know, the NFL
can trial once to have games there. Maybe they create
fans out of people of the game, but soccer is
always going to be near and dear to their heart.
So that's just the truth. And so these games to
me signify if you normalize more regular season games in
other cities and destinations across the world, I think it
(12:10):
creates more of an openness to I don't know if
it's gonna be a team in one of those cities
in the future, or even just a super Bowl in
a place other than you know, one of the venues
that we've got in the US. Like that's what I
feel like sometimes it opens up to, is the opportunity
to play a Super Bowl in a foreign country, like
we kind of all have tabbed. If there's gonna be
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that country, it's probably gonna be London. Like England's probably
gonna host that first one because they've been there so
much for the Jags and for the international games in general.
But I feel like the more you normalize, you know,
this this ability to go play regular season games in
foreign countries and figure out a way of doing that,
the more you try to kind of bring more excitement
(12:51):
to the sport. And this is actually like this this
thought dawned on me and it happened back in New Orleans,
and I don't know how you guys felt, but it
just didn't feel like there was much of a buzz.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And granted we're there early, but we also were there to.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
A point too where you could see a little bit
of the crowds, people who would kind of come through
a radio row. But it just it feels like there's
something off. And I'm not gonna say who said this,
but the comment was made that, yeah, it's another Super Bowl,
same you know, guys who've been done playing for ten
twenty plus years now just walking through selling something like
(13:27):
that was basically like the comment.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
That was made. And that's true.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
But it's true, and it is kind of tiring. It's like, yeah,
we've seen it again, all right, what are you pitching
this year?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You know?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And and there's nothing wrong with that, like those companies
think it's it's successful for them to make money, and
obviously the player wants to get paid money or the
past player. I get all that, but there is something too.
If you put one of these major games, like a
super Bowl, in a different venue, different city, there would
be more excitement around it. There'd be a new buzz
(13:58):
around it. I can only share that a little bit
just from going to an international game for the football
game and we went over for Notre Dame Navy.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
That was one of the coolest experiences ever.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
And it was cool because you got to share that
with a bunch of people who are curious about football.
You know, maybe they know about Notre Dame, maybe they don't,
but regardless, I mean, one of the funniest things that
still struck me from that experience was the cab driver
was excited about the flyover because they never get flyovers
for soccer matches or rugby matches, so that was his
(14:29):
whole thing, was like he said, oh, I can't wait
for the flyover. And it did feel like maybe they
don't do that very often over there because those things
could have potentially landed in the stadium they're so low.
But the general point is I just I feel like
it would bring a new sense of excitement outside of
hosting a super Bowl in one of these newly constructed stadiums.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But how in the United States market? What do you
mean like here it will bring excitement here? Where is
it bringing the excitement? It's bringing excite wanted to go
to a destination. I mean you're traveling to go see
a game over there. I mean again going to a
London game, being a part of one of those for
the international Games. And this is you know, dating back
to what two thousand and uh in twenty ten when
(15:13):
we went over with the Broncos played the forty nine ers,
it was just cool to see the response to football
and how people showed.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Up in the stadiums with like all these different jerseys on.
It wasn't like it was just like Broncos fans of
forty nine Ers fans. It was like a slew of
people who are just fans of football. And so, you know,
I think that experience to share it with other places great,
But I mean think about this, These games have become
so so expensive to get into.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's not like your average Joe Schmoe's going to the
super Bowl anyway, correct, So it's more of an experience
corporately speaking, or.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Or an experience in general, you know what I'm saying.
Like it's kind of like it's an experience in general.
So like if you're planning going to the Super Bowl,
you're planning ongoing, but you know you're gonna sholl out
a lot of money for It's like, what does it?
Does it make that big of a difference to you
if it's in Brazil or London or somewhere else versus
if it's in or is it San Francisco next year,
Santa Clara?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I think it makes a difference only in the sense
that there's a familiar or exciting to go somewhere else
to it. I mean, no disrespect to going to Santa Clara.
I much rather go I much rather go to South
Paulo to go see a Super Bowl any day period.
Super bowlern really or not. I love the Bay Area.
(16:25):
I mean the Bay Area is cool, it's technology. There's
a lot a lot of things going incubating going on there.
But I'd like to incubate in And you know, Sopolo,
I guess, I guess do they eat cornber something? They
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eat something there because it's it's very good. Whatever it is.
But I just say this, I just again, I think
the further you get away from it being an American
sport the United States, which that's what football is, That's
what American football is, I think you run the risk
of going away from the culture and the pillars and
(17:10):
foundational components that made the game what it is today.
But how do you expand the sport? Then it's a
it's a it's a it is a dilemma, and it
is a challenge to try to figure out how do
you grow and expand the sport.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
But yeah, I see it more as an opportunity, you know,
like that that's and that's why I feel like the
NFL seas is when they did this in NFL Europe,
which I mean I'm sure you played with guys who
played over in NFL Europe, right, mm hmm, because that
was just what winding down when when you were kind
of think.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
It was yeah, yeah, yeah, winding down correct.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Which I mean, look, I would all go back to this, like,
I think that set the foundation done right, But I
think that's that's that's set the foundation for a lot
of the fandom that's there now for the game of
football because they were introduced to it at a young
and then as it's grown, they've probably kept tabs and
as it's you know, continued to expand where they want
to play more games like actual regular season games. There
(18:08):
there's more excitement around it. So again, you know, who
knows if it'll ever happen, But if it did happen,
I could I could see.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
A Super Bowl being played in London.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
And I know it may upset some purists and some fans,
but it's the same fans who want to complain about
officiating rule changes. It's the same fans who want to
complain about something else that they're frustrated buy or upset by.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You're still going to watch. If we learned anything from
this past.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Super Bowl, one in which you saw two teams that
have played a couple of years back, one that's played
three years in a row now a blowout, yet it
still was the all time highest rated game.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, there's also something too like out here in southern California.
I would be willing to bet that there are more
Cowboys fans than Chargers or Rams fans. Smart of the
Cowboys to come out here, and that's that's part of it.
Because they've made this destination and they go to Oxnard,
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or as Brady calls it, n Oxnard. They go there
and they put on their training camp and the Cowboys
because of that, have a huge fan base out here.
Same with the Raiders, so for the Chargers. But they
did say that it fell off a little bit this
past year. They did say there wasn't very many people,
not as many people coming and droves like they had
in years past, but they were all in. It doesn't
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make any sense they were all in this past year.
That's why, you know, I find that hard to believe.
But you know, just just throwing it out there again,
like we did last year. If they need us to
go cover this thame, we should go. We talked about
it last year. I make sure I had my passport. Man,
I still haven't went and got it. Really yeah, I
was like, we didn't go, and I'm not in the rust. Wait,
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you never got your past. I never wanted to get Yeah,
I never went to get it. Like the rush period.
I paid for the rush period and I had to
drive all the way back over to where that that
court building was, and once I missed the flight, I
just wasn't motivated to go take that drive again within
like the next week or so. So any advice for
(20:09):
LeVar and how to get this handled. Well, I just
got to go to like a drug store right to
take the picture and send it in and then like
CVS or something. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I tried doing that, and then they just they want
the money, so they just make you pay for the
taking a picture in the office anyway, They're like, yeah,
that picture doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
So I'm not driving all the way back over which
I don't know how far away that is from where
I currently live now though the LA you know where
the LA Courthouse is or whatever that is, I don't know.
I just didn't want to go back and do it.
Like there was a line. There were like three lines,
and they were literally you have to schedule your time,
your appointment, which is dumb because then you go stand
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in the line full of like sixty seventy eighty ninety
one hundred people and there's like three lines of them.
It's not it's crazy. Yeah, definitely make an appointment. Well,
but it doesn't matter. I'll show you. I'll show you
some images on Instagram from places to go to in
Brazil and you'll probably get motivated real quick. Would Bobby
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orchids go. I mean he would never come back. I'll
tell you that. What about the song? You better keep
keep all of the massage and justin Tucker out of there?
That would how about tuck me, Tucker, don't TODs me.
He's the Herd here on Fast Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
(21:30):
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Collins, so we will
have the herdline news to close up each and every
hour here on the show. A special present jumping on
later on in the show, the old p Petros Papadakis
is going to be stopping by. Who the hell knows
what he's going to have to say about this whole
Chargers going to Brazil fiasco. That could be a lot
of fun with Petros. All of it is yours here
(21:52):
again on this three hour extrapaganza. But we do have
ourselves somebody in the NFL who's been locked up, no
not like legally, but locked up for at least the
short term based on what they did over the past
couple of years for one other teammate. We've got the
details on that for you. That's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
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Speaker 3 (22:22):
Uh you got problems, Viv. That's how you gets ready
to work out. Huh oh wow, Bro got to get
that lifted or was that Lee? Is that Lee? That's
more so Lee? Probably? Probably? Yeah, gotta get that lift in.
(22:43):
Your physician would not approve that. That be the way
you get pumped up the lift man. Whatever works. Yeah,
definitely for you, Lee, I hear that, Lee. Yeah, it
is the Herd Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Colin coming up here
a little over fifteen minutes from now in another edition
(23:04):
of the Herdline News, a Hall of famer has decided
to just do things differently and just going to do
it how he wants to do it. We'll give you
the information and the details on that for you again
a little over fifteen minutes from now. If you were
one of those fan bases out there that was like,
you know what I want Andy Dalton this offseason, well,
tough balls. He's stay in put. The Carolina Panthers have
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re signed him to a two year deal, so he
has been reportedly instrumental in the help of the development
of Bryce Young, and so Andy Dalton is back with
the Carolina Panthers and he will be there to continue
on his mentoring of Bryce Young, who apparently those two
have become very close over the past couple of years.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So fair anyone who knows Andy Dalton knows he's a
good dude. I think the other part of that signing
is he stepped in when they've needed him and he's
played fairly well to a degree. Now, obviously that roster,
that team, they've had some tough circumstance answers. They're not
where they need to be. I think we all know that,
but they probably like the growth that they saw from
(24:05):
Bryce Young, you know, from from you know, previous years
to last year. Really how well he was playing by
the end of the season, where I think you you'd
probably admit I think he might have played his best
game of his career to finish the season. So there's
something to be said for that. I think as Carolina
is going to mole over everything right now. I mean,
when when you're a team that's in their position, there's
(24:27):
the potential of a guy dropping, do you Remember Dave
Knallis didn't draft Bryce Young, so he doesn't I mean, yeah,
he took the job knowing Bryce Young would be his quarterback,
but he's not tied to him in that way. And
and this team could move on if they're presented that
opportunity to do so. Would that be via a veteran
or you know, a younger guy. That's unfortunately that the
dan age we live in in the NFL, where there's
(24:49):
just not a lot of patients, you know, with a
lot of these quarterbacks, even when they've showed a growth.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
And improvement from where year one was two year two.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
So it's it's a sign that I think, I think
they're probably gonna move, you know, state the course moving
forward with Bryce Young. But it's the NFL, so you
can never say never, and you never can be surprised
when teams make a certain move, especially if they love
a guy that happens to follow him in a certain spot.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
When I look at this Carolina Panthers scenario in situation,
I mean, they lost a lot of games last year,
but a lot of those games were close and maybe
closer in score than what they really were in reality.
But I mean they did play some pretty pretty decent games,
especially down the stretch when they you know, kind of
shocked the Giants with the win and was very close,
(25:38):
was in a competitive game with the Chiefs, and they
were in a competitive game with with the Bucks, and
even with the Eagles. Now those were losses, but nonetheless
they look to have a little bit more competitive nature
connected to what it is that they were bringing to
the table. So there are some positives to draw from
(25:58):
if you're the Carolina pan An. There is the question,
the biggest question to me, and the biggest concern to
me is in moving forward with these being your quarterbacks
and perceivably obviously Bryce Young coming in as as the
incumbent starter, do do you feel comfortable and confident building
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what it is that you're trying to build off of,
with the competitive nature of which you were playing hitting
out of last season, do you feel comfortable and confident
that Bryce Young is that guy? I almost feel as
though that that is an admission that you do feel
confident in Bryce Young because you are bringing Andy Dalton back,
(26:41):
and obviously there's no reason to move on from Bryce Young.
But would be a tap of confusing to me is
that you benched Bryce Young. Last year you benched them
and you went you went in a different directional way
from him. Do you feel as though with this new
head coach that that you have that he has the
confidence and the patience to invest and continue to invest
(27:04):
in seeing if Bryce Young can possibly be that franchise
quarterback for the Carolina Pathers, Because there are some positives
to draw from this team. Even though you looked at
him in what was perceivably a very very poor season
in terms of wins and losses. His first year was
a waste of time. Like the organization was a disaster,
(27:27):
you know, David Tepper, Frank Reich, like that whole thing
just didn't work. It didn't work for anybody. And so
I think this past year when Dalton went out, which
is crazy that you know, this is because of a
car He was in a car accident, and that's why
Bryce Young took over and got the job back and
just never looked back. At the very least, Bryce Young
earned the right to get another look at the very
(27:50):
least like to where, yeah, you're not sure if he's
still going to be a franchise quarterback, but the way
he played down the stretch, he was really good man,
like really good. Look completely different than he had before
he went out when he was binged, and of course
last year which was a disaster, so his rookie year,
which was a disaster. So I look at it and
(28:10):
I go at the very least, he's earned the right
for another shot to be the guy going into it,
and then they'll know after this year whether or not
they want to continue forward with them. I think that's
the spot they're in. Again. I look at this Carolina
Panthers team and I'm taking a hard look at at
(28:31):
everything at every position and everybody because again, you're you're
in a division. Keep in mind, you're in a division
where Tampa Bay was the ones that came out on top.
Pretty good team, but you know they have an aging
receiver and and Mike Evans. They who knows what's going
(28:52):
to happen with who's the receiver that got got injured
that that's usually on the other side, he's a pin,
Chris Gotwin got God. They're trying to work on a
deal with it myself, I mean, but this is an
aging core of players that you have in Tampa Bay.
I don't know what we're going to see from from Atlanta.
(29:13):
It's still largely a question mark. Is Mike Pennix the
guy or not? And cam Raheem Morris turned this team
into a competitor. The point is is that this NFC
South is a division part of the NFL that is
for the taking, and it doesn't take much to improve
in a manner to be competitive in the South. So
(29:36):
if I'm the Carolina Panthers, you gotta feel good that
maybe you're like three players four players away from becoming
a more competitive team in terms of your approach to
the division that you're in. And I would start right there,
how am I viewing my team as it applies to
just trying to get a hold of the NFC South,
(29:56):
because that is a more feasible approach and looking at
where I am with building back my team to trying
to be a winner. That's that would be my first
initial thought process to the whole idea of who who
are we working with personnel wise? Moving forward? I mean
I would say baby steps. Of course, David Dave Canalis
(30:18):
did not get fired after his first year, so David
Tepper maybe is starting to learn his lesson a little bit. Okay,
gotta be a little optimistic there and yeah, yeah, it'd
be interesting to see if Bryce Young can pan out, though,
Like who you know receivers? Wise? Like, do we like
Carolina's receiving core? Can we name Carolina's receiver? Adam's a
(30:44):
good name. It's messed up, man, Deland's a good name
of top Brady, Yeah, take that one too, all right?
Who else? Take the dunk contest? Well, they drafted Xavier Legit.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
We get last in the first round, who might be
one the better characters in the NFL and has one
of the better access accents in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Real questions about his diet. Though, you got Coker, you
got Jalen Coker, you got I don't know what this
dude's name is, Dan what Chisholm? I don't know Devin Tompkins.
Do we feel good about any of these guys? You
got Tommy Tremble at tight end, Chatavion Sanders at tight end.
(31:29):
I don't really know any of these guys. Tommy Tremble,
Come on, man, I don't know who is he? Yeah,
I don't know who is He's actually been pretty solid
for them. Yeah, I don't. I don't know who he is,
So I don't I and Thomas. Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
They've got some good tight ends. I mean they're they're
good in that regard. They need more help in particular
the wide receiver spot. There's no secret to that. It's
been that way since Bryce's rookie year. It doesn't matter
if you changed coaches, it's been that way the whole time.
I mean, they play a majority of their snaps in
three wide receiver sets. And to your point, outside of
(32:07):
you know, drafting Lagett as rookie, you got feelings there
as a veteran, but you've got to do more to
improve that group, not only with speed, but just some
big playability. That's one of the things that I think hurts,
you know, this roster, this team as opposed to others,
is when you have to have ten twelve plus play drives,
you're just you're not going to be a very successful team.
(32:29):
The best offenses have explosive plays, and that's born out
of speed, It's born out of you know, guys who
can make yards after the catch, yards after contact, and
this roster is devoid of some of that. So that's
ultimately what Caroline's got to try to find, at least
on offense this offseason and really to help out when
it's Bryce Young and Hedult whoever, it doesn't matter who
(32:51):
the quarterback is. If they don't find more talent out
around them to help them out with creating bigger plays downfield,
it's always going to be a struggle.
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Lead to lap Hey fellas the healthy you want, I
wanted a little bit of everything, guys. In case you
missed this, Colorado has a budget of two hundred thousand
dollars put away on its annual budget for private air
travel and recruiting expenses. Problem with that is that Dion
refuses to use that money for personal recruiting visits. In fact,
he talked about it. Take a listen.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I don't go to nobody's school and nobody houses. I'm
not doing that. I'm too old to be going to
somebody school with somebody else. All the kids that I'm recruiting.
Matter of fact, they're in the portal. They've grown men
with kids. They ain't gonna need me to come around.
They crib and try to convince them to come play
for me. No good strategy, you guys. I mean it's working.
They had the twenty seventh ranked recruiting class last year.
(35:39):
That ain't working. Yeah, but does that include the portal.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Yeah, it have to include the portal, which usually they're
one of the higher ranked portal teams.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
Yeah, they were like top five, Like weren't they like
number one in the portal it says included twenty six
best transfer class. That's probably the top top ten portal classes.
That's where you got to pay attention because that's how
he's building it.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
That doesn't mean that ultimately that's going to be the
way he wants to do it in the long term,
But in the short term, I think he's still trying
to get the roster right and that's why I was
trying to utilize the portal. So look, the reality is
he's been successful from year one to year two, and
so you got to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He's got some challenges where Shoudor's not gonna be there anymore,
(36:23):
Travis Hunter won't be there anymore, and we'll see what
what it looks like. But so far, everything he's done
is worked. So you can question if you want, but
you're gonna be on the wrong side of it based
on history.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I just know Dion is connected to three Step and
three Step has always been at the forefront of getting
the hellse three steps. I'm about to tell you it's
a company that has the ESPN top ranked players. You know,
Tom Louganville is a part of it. A lot of
(36:58):
people are a part of the the recruiting service that
he's connected to. He knows these kids. He's been in
contact and connection with these kids since long before they
became big time prospects. So while he may be building
what he's building directly through the portal right now, he
also has relationships and people who have relationships with these
(37:21):
players and their families growing up because of the camps
that you know, under Armour has historically ran, and a
lot of his connection points come early on with these kids,
and he did an excellent job of establishing that. I mean,
I give him a ton of credit because when I
was watching what he was doing, he established the communication
(37:41):
lines with the parents and with these kids probably from
the time they're in seventh eighth grade all the way
up through high school, during the summer camps and the
prospect camps where you're trying to go get your stars
and seven on seven stuff like that. So it's probably
a maid I mean, and he's Deon Sanders, so there's
a lot of major reasons as to why he doesn't
(38:01):
feel the need to have to jump on the airplane
and go to people's homes to.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Talk to him.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
He's seeing them anyway, Just curious to see how it
looks without Shador and Travis Hunter. I just want to see, uh,
how Colorado. I think they're going to be better, man.
I think they'll be better because I think that they're
You think that I think so. I think they'll be better.
I think they'll be better. Do you think this year
they'll be better than they were last year? Yes? I
think they'll be better. I will take that bet, all right.
(38:28):
That wouldn't be the first time you're wrong and I'm right.
But we can do it. Damn that you know I'm serious?
Speaker 7 (38:35):
Right?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yes, yes, especially when I've.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Got two other people who work with us that can
keep tabs on you and all the many times you've
been wrong, like your Penn State Notre Dame prediction where
that didn't work out for you either, did a pal?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I want to go there? Huh? How many? How many?
You do know? I'm not too old to whoop your ass?
You do know that, right? You young some of us
to get How dare you throw Notre Dame and Penn
State in my face like that? Like all You're glad?
(39:11):
I'm going to the gloves are off. Now, I just
call myself making it like a little all right, you're right,
You're right. That really hurts are after that game. To
be fair, to be fair, you kind of started it
when you, you know, pull the who with Tommy Tremble.
(39:34):
That was a little disrespectful to Notre Dame. The problem
here is is that I attacked Q on his picks.
That's fine, it's a He has a hell of a
comeback every single time. And now I'm aware that he
is willing to go there. So I'm going to leave
him alone from here on out until Penn State beats
Notre Dame or something happens. But be clear, the moment
(39:56):
Notre Dame fumbles or stumbles and wobble wobble, I'm coming
for you, damn, I'm coming for you. Godd and that
was cold blooded what you did said to me, Goley,
I can't even focus right now. What talking about that?
I don't even care. I want to go to break now. Man,
You've really You've really hurt my feelings. They really hurt
(40:19):
my feelings. Here's here's the thing, going back to the
Dion thing.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Here's the reason why I feel like they're going to
struggle to be as good as they were last year.
Is think about the Baylor game, Think about how many
other games it was Shador, it was Travis Hunter at
the end of the game making a play for them
to win.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Agree, Like I go back to that, I go, You're
just you're not going to find that.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Right away, whether it's Juju Lewis whoever, You're not gonna
find that right away in year one. It's really hard
to replicate it. And I think most teams when they
lose a guy like that, they find out that next year,
they're like, oh man, he was special, but now we
feel it more than we would have otherwise.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Right. I think as an overall team, he will improve
the team overall and some of the things that they
felt that they were difficult for them may not be
as difficult this season. That's that's my take on it.
And it's a less of a focal point on father Son.
It's now more of a focal point on him coaching
and their team. That's that's my reason. Who's that I
(41:18):
don't know who that is.
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(00:51):
Full moon sighting in studio here. Yeah, who knew? It's
a black moon of black history, monk. Definitely, Lee, put
your fist down, throw yours up to lead, Put your
fist down, throw your black fist up. Lee. But uh,
we we are rock and rolling here on a Wednesday.
(01:13):
How we feeling, boys? How's every body feeling here on
this on this fine Wednesday? As we get said, I
just want to know if Q went into the steam
room for for thirty five forty minutes, that's all I want.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
You didn't say thirty five, You said forty forty, and
no I did not. She consulted with a physician and
they said, whoever you've ever told you that needs to
stop passing along these Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That's the world you live in, Q, that's the world
you live in. F that that physician you're talking to,
doctor La Brother, I'm telling you, God, forty minutes, all
that gook come up out of you. Everything you good
to go? Forty yep, thirty five forty. I feel like
you're trying to kill me off the show at this point.
No way, you're trying to know what it is. No way.
(01:55):
Just some of us is just a different you know
what I mean? Like that physician sees soft people everyday, people,
normal people like you. You're not normal, bro, You're you're There's
no there's no deals between mermidens and men, lions and men,
there's no deal. There's no packs. You know, Troy Kiley's
told us that in Troy. You know what I mean,
(02:15):
You're different, bro, But if you want to be like
everybody else, you'd be like everybody else. Man. That's cool, Okay,
you and your physician. I'd like to be alive. God
bless you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I've been doing that for like five six years seven.
I would love to witness this.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I would love to sit there with a timer and
actually see if you sit in there for forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, anytime, anytime, A right, anytime? How hot does it get?
I did it this morning. When I go that long,
I stay at one ten. When I do twenty twenty
to thirty, thirty, twenty to thirty, I do like one twenty.
I do one twenty with a sweatsuit on and socks
on my hands and my feet. I feeling that. No,
(02:54):
that's important because you don't want to burn your toes
or anything like that, you know, just telling you when
you feel really good, man, like you feel like clear, clean, rejuvenated,
like you feel good. I mean my eyes be fire
at fire red. But other than that, you know, you're
you're good, nice and relaxed. Yeah, it's good. But anyways,
(03:16):
that's just for you know, people like me. You know
that's all. You know. I'll take that. I want you
to be alive too, you know what I mean. I'm
not trying to kill you off. This is not an assassinator.
This is not a self inflicted assassination attempt on you.
I promise, thank you, sir. It's all good man. It's
not a coup na, not at all. What are we cooing?
I'm not taking over anything anyways. This is the Colin
(03:39):
cow Herds. This is the herd. It would be it
would be sweet if we did find out this was
all an attempt so that his big dune kickoff spot this.
I certainly would not get his big note talk about leap. Yeah,
I don't get the criteria to take Brady Quinn's seaton
(04:00):
just say, just saying why not. I certainly would not
clear it up for LeVar Arrington just so working. So
that's easily not what it would be for what seems
to be missing. Well you tell them Johnson, all right,
so it is Black History month, so if there were
time to do it, it'd be now you know what
I mean, try to leverage it, that's right. Yeah, and
(04:22):
you got thirty one No, it's only twenty eight days
in the Yeah, it's not many. I don't give you
a long month. Yeah, I say, why didn't they give
you a long They don't give you a long month.
They give you the shortest month. You know what I
mean let's get it in, get it out, get it done.
I can agree to here, guys. Okay, let's not let's
not get carried away, you know, suttled down, all right?
(04:43):
All right? So alrighty. Then, speaking of the NFL, not
that we talked about the NFL there, but the NFL.
There was an announcement that was made. So remember that
game in Brazil last year and open up the season
on a Friday night, you had the Packers and the Eagles.
It was the night after the opener between the Ravens
and the Chiefs, and that game was presented in Brazil.
(05:04):
Apparently we're going to be going back there, and we
already know who the team designated as the home team
is going to be. That team to open up the
first Friday of the season this year as none other
than the Los Angeles Chargers. They will be in Brazil.
So the Bolts are going to bring be in Brazil,
which begs the question, well, a couple of questions. First,
(05:27):
I guess last year went okay, I guess last year
went well enough that they're returning. Second, who are they
going to be playing? And we do have some options
and some teams that are out there that would be
potential options for the Chargers when they're opening up the
season as the home team. You got your divisional games
and then you've got your Texans, Colts, Commanders, Steelers, Vikings,
(05:50):
and Eagles. I'm assuming they're not going to send Philly
back there, obviously they just won the Super Bowl. Well
when we're just in Brazil, but that would make sense
because they open up the year. That's the Thursday tradition. Oh,
the Super Bowl champ always opens up the season the
next year, like the Chiefs did. You're clearly establishing the
Chargers as the home team. So is that a market?
(06:11):
Are you trying to position them just like maybe the
Jaguars are being positioned for for Wimberley?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Can I ask this question? And excuse me if I
miss this amongst and discussing who's playing?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Who's it a home game for Chargers?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Okay, so technically be a CBS game, right because they
have the rights to that, unless again I'm wrong in
assuming how these games get swapped. But usually NFC is CBS,
AFC is no excuse me, other the way around. So
it's AFC, so it would be a CBS game, but
NFC is Fox.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It was Peacock last year the Open, it was okay,
there you go.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
So maybe and the reason why this matters, you know,
it just so happens that, you know, if you're a prominent,
you know, figure, like the number one guy at a network,
maybe you would or wouldn't want to go.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Back down to Brazil to call a game. I want
to go. I one would go to Saio.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I don't doubt that you would want to go. I'm
just saying for something to touch a subject there.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, I get it. Like you know, jiu jitsu and
all that stuff, that's where's that's where it comes from.
That's where it originates from. And when you know that
jiu jitsu, you know, you know how to manipulate your
body and put people in choke holds and locks and
leg locks and submissions. Submission is a big one. Q.
That is a big one. And that might be why
(07:38):
that person doesn't want to go call the game? Good call?
You know why submit? You're a champion, you know, ultimate champion. Yeah,
there you go many times over. But I would say this,
I would venture to say, there are plenty more models
out there that would probably we're Victoria's secrets or or
do a you know, a sports illustrated shoe for the cover,
(08:01):
and I'm just saying I would do it. At what
point are we at getting to the I guess the
eventual spot of now we're kind of going overseas a
little bit too much, like they're trying to expand the borders.
That's why I'm leading off with with my thought is
what is the ultimate goal for the Bolts? You have
(08:23):
two teams in a market where it's a super large
media market. But let's be clear here, it's it's not
the greatest for the NFL. It's not the best media
of the market for football team. You think the Bolts
are going to Brazil? I mean the South Paulo Bolts.
I mean, is it the possibility that you could expand
(08:46):
your borders to a very large market and extend your
your growth of your fan base into South America? Lee?
Can you look up or is that South America? Central America?
Is that South America? South South America? Can you look
up Chargers in Portuguese? Like, what's the like? How do
we say that? And I mean, by the way, since
(09:07):
they're going to Brazil, they're real lucky that security guard
is not working for the team. Anymore, because that that
would have been dicey a whole lot of hand in
his pocket. Yeah, that would have been real, real dice
with their soccer. Uh kind of gottos? What what kinda godas?
Kinda Godasktta Goododas the Los Angeles kinda gododas can get
(09:29):
my pocket? Yeah? Oh no, I don't know. I don't
know what's wrong with you, guys? Man? Could you just
be professional for once, just once in your bleeping career.
Be professional. We're trying to talk about the NFL going
to Brazil, and you guys are trying to steer us
into the ditch, and you clearly hit a saturation point
in fan base and fan growth in America. You maxed
(09:54):
out when you went to Taylor Swift and started leaning
on her to be more appealing to the female audience.
Like you've met, You're they are maxing out in the
United States? What do you mean? There's still there's a
lot of people didn't watch the Super Bowl, and those
people probably get those people. Those people probably aren't going
to watch it. They're probably not going to watch it,
(10:17):
and probably a lot of them are in California that
aren't going to watch it. I just think that expanding
the borders, that's always been something that that has been
a major point of emphasis, especially since Goodell has been
the commissioner of the league. And you're talking about how
they've they've you know, had the combat the concussions, you know,
(10:39):
the concussions deal. They've they've leaned very very deep into
flag football, turning it into a more global sport, you know, globally,
you know, embraced, globally consumed. It's going to be a
part of the Olympics that comes to to the United States.
I mean, there's just if you look at how the
(11:00):
position of it, the positioning of it is, you know,
they're expanding their borders. The NFL Euro didn't work. I
don't know why it didn't work, but it didn't work.
But nonetheless, there is still an audience that is abroad
that the NFL is targeting, and it must be based
upon the information that they're collecting and the data that
(11:23):
they're collecting and seeing who is participating. And I guess,
I guess this part of Brazil, this part of South
America checks off the box to continue to try to
develop there. I mean, to me, that's how I make
sense of it. I could be all the way wrong,
but that's how I make sense of it.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I think you're always going to have a hard time
in breaking into like what is the world sport?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Which is soccer? I mean or football?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
They would say ever sives, But you know, the NFL
can trial once to have games there. Maybe they create
fans out of people of the game, but soccer is
always going to be near and dear to their heart.
So that's just the truth. And so these games to
me signify if you normalize more regular season games in
other cities and destinations across the world, I think it
(12:10):
creates more of an openness to I don't know if
it's gonna be a team in one of those cities
in the future, or even just a super Bowl in
a place other than you know, one of the venues
that we've got in the US. Like that's what I
feel like sometimes it opens up to, is the opportunity
to play a Super Bowl in a foreign country, like
we kind of all have tabbed. If there's gonna be
(12:30):
that country, it's probably gonna be London. Like England's probably
gonna host that first one because they've been there so
much for the Jags and for the international games in general.
But I feel like the more you normalize, you know,
this this ability to go play regular season games in
foreign countries and figure out a way of doing that,
the more you try to kind of bring more excitement
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to the sport. And this is actually like this this
thought dawned on me and it happened back in New Orleans,
and I don't know how you guys felt, but it
just didn't feel like there was much of a buzz.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And granted we're there early, but we also were there to.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
A point too where you could see a little bit
of the crowds, people who would kind of come through
a radio row. But it just it feels like there's
something off. And I'm not gonna say who said this,
but the comment was made that, yeah, it's another Super Bowl,
same you know, guys who've been done playing for ten
twenty plus years now just walking through selling something like
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that was basically like the comment.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
That was made. And that's true.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
But it's true, and it is kind of tiring. It's like, yeah,
we've seen it again, all right, what are you pitching
this year?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You know?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And and there's nothing wrong with that, like those companies
think it's it's successful for them to make money, and
obviously the player wants to get paid money or the
past player. I get all that, but there is something too.
If you put one of these major games, like a
super Bowl, in a different venue, different city, there would
be more excitement around it. There'd be a new buzz
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around it. I can only share that a little bit
just from going to an international game for the football
game and we went over for Notre Dame Navy.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
That was one of the coolest experiences ever.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
And it was cool because you got to share that
with a bunch of people who are curious about football.
You know, maybe they know about Notre Dame, maybe they don't,
but regardless, I mean, one of the funniest things that
still struck me from that experience was the cab driver
was excited about the flyover because they never get flyovers
for soccer matches or rugby matches, so that was his
(14:29):
whole thing, was like he said, oh, I can't wait
for the flyover. And it did feel like maybe they
don't do that very often over there because those things
could have potentially landed in the stadium they're so low.
But the general point is I just I feel like
it would bring a new sense of excitement outside of
hosting a super Bowl in one of these newly constructed stadiums.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But how in the United States market? What do you
mean like here it will bring excitement here? Where is
it bringing the excitement? It's bringing excite wanted to go
to a destination. I mean you're traveling to go see
a game over there. I mean again going to a
London game, being a part of one of those for
the international Games. And this is you know, dating back
to what two thousand and uh in twenty ten when
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we went over with the Broncos played the forty nine ers,
it was just cool to see the response to football
and how people showed.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Up in the stadiums with like all these different jerseys on.
It wasn't like it was just like Broncos fans of
forty nine Ers fans. It was like a slew of
people who are just fans of football. And so, you know,
I think that experience to share it with other places great,
But I mean think about this, These games have become
so so expensive to get into.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's not like your average Joe Schmoe's going to the
super Bowl anyway, correct, So it's more of an experience
corporately speaking, or.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Or an experience in general, you know what I'm saying.
Like it's kind of like it's an experience in general.
So like if you're planning going to the Super Bowl,
you're planning ongoing, but you know you're gonna sholl out
a lot of money for It's like, what does it?
Does it make that big of a difference to you
if it's in Brazil or London or somewhere else versus
if it's in or is it San Francisco next year,
Santa Clara?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I think it makes a difference only in the sense
that there's a familiar or exciting to go somewhere else
to it. I mean, no disrespect to going to Santa Clara.
I much rather go I much rather go to South
Paulo to go see a Super Bowl any day period.
Super bowlern really or not. I love the Bay Area.
(16:25):
I mean the Bay Area is cool, it's technology. There's
a lot a lot of things going incubating going on there.
But I'd like to incubate in And you know, Sopolo,
I guess, I guess do they eat cornber something? They
(16:46):
eat something there because it's it's very good. Whatever it is.
But I just say this, I just again, I think
the further you get away from it being an American
sport the United States, which that's what football is, That's
what American football is, I think you run the risk
of going away from the culture and the pillars and
(17:10):
foundational components that made the game what it is today.
But how do you expand the sport? Then it's a
it's a it's a it is a dilemma, and it
is a challenge to try to figure out how do
you grow and expand the sport.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
But yeah, I see it more as an opportunity, you know,
like that that's and that's why I feel like the
NFL seas is when they did this in NFL Europe,
which I mean I'm sure you played with guys who
played over in NFL Europe, right, mm hmm, because that
was just what winding down when when you were kind
of think.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
It was yeah, yeah, yeah, winding down correct.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Which I mean, look, I would all go back to this, like,
I think that set the foundation done right, But I
think that's that's that's set the foundation for a lot
of the fandom that's there now for the game of
football because they were introduced to it at a young
and then as it's grown, they've probably kept tabs and
as it's you know, continued to expand where they want
to play more games like actual regular season games. There
(18:08):
there's more excitement around it. So again, you know, who
knows if it'll ever happen, But if it did happen,
I could I could see.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
A Super Bowl being played in London.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
And I know it may upset some purists and some fans,
but it's the same fans who want to complain about
officiating rule changes. It's the same fans who want to
complain about something else that they're frustrated buy or upset by.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You're still going to watch. If we learned anything from
this past.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Super Bowl, one in which you saw two teams that
have played a couple of years back, one that's played
three years in a row now a blowout, yet it
still was the all time highest rated game.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, there's also something too like out here in southern California.
I would be willing to bet that there are more
Cowboys fans than Chargers or Rams fans. Smart of the
Cowboys to come out here, and that's that's part of it.
Because they've made this destination and they go to Oxnard,
(19:05):
or as Brady calls it, n Oxnard. They go there
and they put on their training camp and the Cowboys
because of that, have a huge fan base out here.
Same with the Raiders, so for the Chargers. But they
did say that it fell off a little bit this
past year. They did say there wasn't very many people,
not as many people coming and droves like they had
in years past, but they were all in. It doesn't
(19:26):
make any sense they were all in this past year.
That's why, you know, I find that hard to believe.
But you know, just just throwing it out there again,
like we did last year. If they need us to
go cover this thame, we should go. We talked about
it last year. I make sure I had my passport. Man,
I still haven't went and got it. Really yeah, I
was like, we didn't go, and I'm not in the rust. Wait,
(19:49):
you never got your past. I never wanted to get Yeah,
I never went to get it. Like the rush period.
I paid for the rush period and I had to
drive all the way back over to where that that
court building was, and once I missed the flight, I
just wasn't motivated to go take that drive again within
like the next week or so. So any advice for
(20:09):
LeVar and how to get this handled. Well, I just
got to go to like a drug store right to
take the picture and send it in and then like
CVS or something. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I tried doing that, and then they just they want
the money, so they just make you pay for the
taking a picture in the office anyway, They're like, yeah,
that picture doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
So I'm not driving all the way back over which
I don't know how far away that is from where
I currently live now though the LA you know where
the LA Courthouse is or whatever that is, I don't know.
I just didn't want to go back and do it.
Like there was a line. There were like three lines,
and they were literally you have to schedule your time,
your appointment, which is dumb because then you go stand
(20:47):
in the line full of like sixty seventy eighty ninety
one hundred people and there's like three lines of them.
It's not it's crazy. Yeah, definitely make an appointment. Well,
but it doesn't matter. I'll show you. I'll show you
some images on Instagram from places to go to in
Brazil and you'll probably get motivated real quick. Would Bobby
(21:07):
orchids go. I mean he would never come back. I'll
tell you that. What about the song? You better keep
keep all of the massage and justin Tucker out of there?
That would how about tuck me, Tucker, don't TODs me.
He's the Herd here on Fast Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
(21:30):
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hour here on the show. A special present jumping on
later on in the show, the old p Petros Papadakis
is going to be stopping by. Who the hell knows
what he's going to have to say about this whole
Chargers going to Brazil fiasco. That could be a lot
of fun with Petros. All of it is yours here
(21:52):
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ourselves somebody in the NFL who's been locked up, no
not like legally, but locked up for at least the
short term based on what they did over the past
couple of years for one other teammate. We've got the
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Speaker 3 (22:22):
Uh you got problems, Viv. That's how you gets ready
to work out. Huh oh wow, Bro got to get
that lifted or was that Lee? Is that Lee? That's
more so Lee? Probably? Probably? Yeah, gotta get that lift in.
(22:43):
Your physician would not approve that. That be the way
you get pumped up the lift man. Whatever works. Yeah,
definitely for you, Lee, I hear that, Lee. Yeah, it
is the Herd Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
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(23:04):
of the Herdline News, a Hall of famer has decided
to just do things differently and just going to do
it how he wants to do it. We'll give you
the information and the details on that for you again
a little over fifteen minutes from now. If you were
one of those fan bases out there that was like,
you know what I want Andy Dalton this offseason, well,
tough balls. He's stay in put. The Carolina Panthers have
(23:26):
re signed him to a two year deal, so he
has been reportedly instrumental in the help of the development
of Bryce Young, and so Andy Dalton is back with
the Carolina Panthers and he will be there to continue
on his mentoring of Bryce Young, who apparently those two
have become very close over the past couple of years.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So fair anyone who knows Andy Dalton knows he's a
good dude. I think the other part of that signing
is he stepped in when they've needed him and he's
played fairly well to a degree. Now, obviously that roster,
that team, they've had some tough circumstance answers. They're not
where they need to be. I think we all know that,
but they probably like the growth that they saw from
(24:05):
Bryce Young, you know, from from you know, previous years
to last year. Really how well he was playing by
the end of the season, where I think you you'd
probably admit I think he might have played his best
game of his career to finish the season. So there's
something to be said for that. I think as Carolina
is going to mole over everything right now. I mean,
when when you're a team that's in their position, there's
(24:27):
the potential of a guy dropping, do you Remember Dave
Knallis didn't draft Bryce Young, so he doesn't I mean, yeah,
he took the job knowing Bryce Young would be his quarterback,
but he's not tied to him in that way. And
and this team could move on if they're presented that
opportunity to do so. Would that be via a veteran
or you know, a younger guy. That's unfortunately that the
dan age we live in in the NFL, where there's
(24:49):
just not a lot of patients, you know, with a
lot of these quarterbacks, even when they've showed a growth.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
And improvement from where year one was two year two.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
So it's it's a sign that I think, I think
they're probably gonna move, you know, state the course moving
forward with Bryce Young. But it's the NFL, so you
can never say never, and you never can be surprised
when teams make a certain move, especially if they love
a guy that happens to follow him in a certain spot.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
When I look at this Carolina Panthers scenario in situation,
I mean, they lost a lot of games last year,
but a lot of those games were close and maybe
closer in score than what they really were in reality.
But I mean they did play some pretty pretty decent games,
especially down the stretch when they you know, kind of
shocked the Giants with the win and was very close,
(25:38):
was in a competitive game with the Chiefs, and they
were in a competitive game with with the Bucks, and
even with the Eagles. Now those were losses, but nonetheless
they look to have a little bit more competitive nature
connected to what it is that they were bringing to
the table. So there are some positives to draw from
(25:58):
if you're the Carolina pan An. There is the question,
the biggest question to me, and the biggest concern to
me is in moving forward with these being your quarterbacks
and perceivably obviously Bryce Young coming in as as the
incumbent starter, do do you feel comfortable and confident building
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what it is that you're trying to build off of,
with the competitive nature of which you were playing hitting
out of last season, do you feel comfortable and confident
that Bryce Young is that guy? I almost feel as
though that that is an admission that you do feel
confident in Bryce Young because you are bringing Andy Dalton back,
(26:41):
and obviously there's no reason to move on from Bryce Young.
But would be a tap of confusing to me is
that you benched Bryce Young. Last year you benched them
and you went you went in a different directional way
from him. Do you feel as though with this new
head coach that that you have that he has the
confidence and the patience to invest and continue to invest
(27:04):
in seeing if Bryce Young can possibly be that franchise
quarterback for the Carolina Pathers, Because there are some positives
to draw from this team. Even though you looked at
him in what was perceivably a very very poor season
in terms of wins and losses. His first year was
a waste of time. Like the organization was a disaster,
(27:27):
you know, David Tepper, Frank Reich, like that whole thing
just didn't work. It didn't work for anybody. And so
I think this past year when Dalton went out, which
is crazy that you know, this is because of a
car He was in a car accident, and that's why
Bryce Young took over and got the job back and
just never looked back. At the very least, Bryce Young
earned the right to get another look at the very
(27:50):
least like to where, yeah, you're not sure if he's
still going to be a franchise quarterback, but the way
he played down the stretch, he was really good man,
like really good. Look completely different than he had before
he went out when he was binged, and of course
last year which was a disaster, so his rookie year,
which was a disaster. So I look at it and
(28:10):
I go at the very least, he's earned the right
for another shot to be the guy going into it,
and then they'll know after this year whether or not
they want to continue forward with them. I think that's
the spot they're in. Again. I look at this Carolina
Panthers team and I'm taking a hard look at at
(28:31):
everything at every position and everybody because again, you're you're
in a division. Keep in mind, you're in a division
where Tampa Bay was the ones that came out on top.
Pretty good team, but you know they have an aging
receiver and and Mike Evans. They who knows what's going
(28:52):
to happen with who's the receiver that got got injured
that that's usually on the other side, he's a pin,
Chris Gotwin got God. They're trying to work on a
deal with it myself, I mean, but this is an
aging core of players that you have in Tampa Bay.
I don't know what we're going to see from from Atlanta.
(29:13):
It's still largely a question mark. Is Mike Pennix the
guy or not? And cam Raheem Morris turned this team
into a competitor. The point is is that this NFC
South is a division part of the NFL that is
for the taking, and it doesn't take much to improve
in a manner to be competitive in the South. So
(29:36):
if I'm the Carolina Panthers, you gotta feel good that
maybe you're like three players four players away from becoming
a more competitive team in terms of your approach to
the division that you're in. And I would start right there,
how am I viewing my team as it applies to
just trying to get a hold of the NFC South,
(29:56):
because that is a more feasible approach and looking at
where I am with building back my team to trying
to be a winner. That's that would be my first
initial thought process to the whole idea of who who
are we working with personnel wise? Moving forward? I mean
I would say baby steps. Of course, David Dave Canalis
(30:18):
did not get fired after his first year, so David
Tepper maybe is starting to learn his lesson a little bit. Okay,
gotta be a little optimistic there and yeah, yeah, it'd
be interesting to see if Bryce Young can pan out, though,
Like who you know receivers? Wise? Like, do we like
Carolina's receiving core? Can we name Carolina's receiver? Adam's a
(30:44):
good name. It's messed up, man, Deland's a good name
of top Brady, Yeah, take that one too, all right?
Who else? Take the dunk contest? Well, they drafted Xavier Legit.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
We get last in the first round, who might be
one the better characters in the NFL and has one
of the better access accents in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Real questions about his diet. Though, you got Coker, you
got Jalen Coker, you got I don't know what this
dude's name is, Dan what Chisholm? I don't know Devin Tompkins.
Do we feel good about any of these guys? You
got Tommy Tremble at tight end, Chatavion Sanders at tight end.
(31:29):
I don't really know any of these guys. Tommy Tremble,
Come on, man, I don't know who is he? Yeah,
I don't know who is He's actually been pretty solid
for them. Yeah, I don't. I don't know who he is,
So I don't I and Thomas. Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
They've got some good tight ends. I mean they're they're
good in that regard. They need more help in particular
the wide receiver spot. There's no secret to that. It's
been that way since Bryce's rookie year. It doesn't matter
if you changed coaches, it's been that way the whole time.
I mean, they play a majority of their snaps in
three wide receiver sets. And to your point, outside of
(32:07):
you know, drafting Lagett as rookie, you got feelings there
as a veteran, but you've got to do more to
improve that group, not only with speed, but just some
big playability. That's one of the things that I think hurts,
you know, this roster, this team as opposed to others,
is when you have to have ten twelve plus play drives,
you're just you're not going to be a very successful team.
(32:29):
The best offenses have explosive plays, and that's born out
of speed, It's born out of you know, guys who
can make yards after the catch, yards after contact, and
this roster is devoid of some of that. So that's
ultimately what Caroline's got to try to find, at least
on offense this offseason and really to help out when
it's Bryce Young and Hedult whoever, it doesn't matter who
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the quarterback is. If they don't find more talent out
around them to help them out with creating bigger plays downfield,
it's always going to be a struggle.
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Lead to lap Hey fellas the healthy you want, I
wanted a little bit of everything, guys. In case you
missed this, Colorado has a budget of two hundred thousand
dollars put away on its annual budget for private air
travel and recruiting expenses. Problem with that is that Dion
refuses to use that money for personal recruiting visits. In fact,
he talked about it. Take a listen.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I don't go to nobody's school and nobody houses. I'm
not doing that. I'm too old to be going to
somebody school with somebody else. All the kids that I'm recruiting.
Matter of fact, they're in the portal. They've grown men
with kids. They ain't gonna need me to come around.
They crib and try to convince them to come play
for me. No good strategy, you guys. I mean it's working.
They had the twenty seventh ranked recruiting class last year.
(35:39):
That ain't working. Yeah, but does that include the portal.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Yeah, it have to include the portal, which usually they're
one of the higher ranked portal teams.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
Yeah, they were like top five, Like weren't they like
number one in the portal it says included twenty six
best transfer class. That's probably the top top ten portal classes.
That's where you got to pay attention because that's how
he's building it.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
That doesn't mean that ultimately that's going to be the
way he wants to do it in the long term,
But in the short term, I think he's still trying
to get the roster right and that's why I was
trying to utilize the portal. So look, the reality is
he's been successful from year one to year two, and
so you got to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He's got some challenges where Shoudor's not gonna be there anymore,
(36:23):
Travis Hunter won't be there anymore, and we'll see what
what it looks like. But so far, everything he's done
is worked. So you can question if you want, but
you're gonna be on the wrong side of it based
on history.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I just know Dion is connected to three Step and
three Step has always been at the forefront of getting
the hellse three steps. I'm about to tell you it's
a company that has the ESPN top ranked players. You know,
Tom Louganville is a part of it. A lot of
(36:58):
people are a part of the the recruiting service that
he's connected to. He knows these kids. He's been in
contact and connection with these kids since long before they
became big time prospects. So while he may be building
what he's building directly through the portal right now, he
also has relationships and people who have relationships with these
(37:21):
players and their families growing up because of the camps
that you know, under Armour has historically ran, and a
lot of his connection points come early on with these kids,
and he did an excellent job of establishing that. I mean,
I give him a ton of credit because when I
was watching what he was doing, he established the communication
(37:41):
lines with the parents and with these kids probably from
the time they're in seventh eighth grade all the way
up through high school, during the summer camps and the
prospect camps where you're trying to go get your stars
and seven on seven stuff like that. So it's probably
a maid I mean, and he's Deon Sanders, so there's
a lot of major reasons as to why he doesn't
(38:01):
feel the need to have to jump on the airplane
and go to people's homes to.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Talk to him.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
He's seeing them anyway, Just curious to see how it
looks without Shador and Travis Hunter. I just want to see, uh,
how Colorado. I think they're going to be better, man.
I think they'll be better because I think that they're
You think that I think so. I think they'll be better.
I think they'll be better. Do you think this year
they'll be better than they were last year? Yes? I
think they'll be better. I will take that bet, all right.
(38:28):
That wouldn't be the first time you're wrong and I'm right.
But we can do it. Damn that you know I'm serious?
Speaker 7 (38:35):
Right?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yes, yes, especially when I've.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Got two other people who work with us that can
keep tabs on you and all the many times you've
been wrong, like your Penn State Notre Dame prediction where
that didn't work out for you either, did a pal?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I want to go there? Huh? How many? How many?
You do know? I'm not too old to whoop your ass?
You do know that, right? You young some of us
to get How dare you throw Notre Dame and Penn
State in my face like that? Like all You're glad?
(39:11):
I'm going to the gloves are off. Now, I just
call myself making it like a little all right, you're right,
You're right. That really hurts are after that game. To
be fair, to be fair, you kind of started it
when you, you know, pull the who with Tommy Tremble.
(39:34):
That was a little disrespectful to Notre Dame. The problem
here is is that I attacked Q on his picks.
That's fine, it's a He has a hell of a
comeback every single time. And now I'm aware that he
is willing to go there. So I'm going to leave
him alone from here on out until Penn State beats
Notre Dame or something happens. But be clear, the moment
(39:56):
Notre Dame fumbles or stumbles and wobble wobble, I'm coming
for you, damn, I'm coming for you. Godd and that
was cold blooded what you did said to me, Goley,
I can't even focus right now. What talking about that?
I don't even care. I want to go to break now. Man,
You've really You've really hurt my feelings. They really hurt
(40:19):
my feelings. Here's here's the thing, going back to the
Dion thing.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Here's the reason why I feel like they're going to
struggle to be as good as they were last year.
Is think about the Baylor game, Think about how many
other games it was Shador, it was Travis Hunter at
the end of the game making a play for them
to win.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Agree, Like I go back to that, I go, You're
just you're not going to find that.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Right away, whether it's Juju Lewis whoever, You're not gonna
find that right away in year one. It's really hard
to replicate it. And I think most teams when they
lose a guy like that, they find out that next year,
they're like, oh man, he was special, but now we
feel it more than we would have otherwise.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Right. I think as an overall team, he will improve
the team overall and some of the things that they
felt that they were difficult for them may not be
as difficult this season. That's that's my take on it.
And it's a less of a focal point on father Son.
It's now more of a focal point on him coaching
and their team. That's that's my reason. Who's that I
(41:18):
don't know who that is.
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