3 & Out - Lessons from 2024, Going cheap for a head coach, Netflix making a run at Sunday Football

John dives into the biggest takeaways from the 2024 season and what lessons teams should have learned as they approach the start of free agency. Next, John discusses the importance of owners not being cheap and spending money in the right areas especially when it comes to hiring the right head coach. Lastly, John talks about how Netflix is interested in a full NFL package involving Sunday games.

Later, John answers your questions during this episode's mailbag segment.

4:12 - Lessons from 2024

15:30 - Cheap rich people

28:00 - Chargers to play in Brazil

50:03 - Mailbag

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?
Hopefully everyone is having a good day, good life, good

(00:21):
twenty twenty five good vibes only. And I thought we
do a little football podcast today. Did a golf podcast yesterday,
so if you missed that, go lo episode one for
twenty twenty five out and today I thought we'd do
a little one thing. I did want to look back
before we move on to this offseason, which is going

(00:42):
to be full full speed ahead next week with the
combine and free agency. That just some lessons that we
learned from twenty twenty five. I wrote down a couple
and I thought we'd go over as well as Netflix
looks like it's gonna get way more involved here in
the upcoming future, probably when the NFL opts out of

(01:04):
their current television deal in five years, four years, and
Netflix could have a big package as well as a team.
We know the NFL is doing another Brazil game also,
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(01:48):
here in twenty twenty five besides just podcasts like we
currently put up and other than that, any other news,
any other notes, any other thoughts. No, So let's let's
just talk a little football. A lot going on, well
actually not really, I mean slow time in the football world,

(02:10):
but it's about to really pick up next week with
rumors flying from draft picks to the measurements, to the
workouts to you know, potential trades. We've had a lot
of trades conducted executed and this is when the conversations
really pick up at the combine next week. So basically
this week, these gms and the coaching staffs and the

(02:33):
scouting staffs are really kind of finalizing information they have
for the potential rookies, you know, questions, any red flags
going into the combine, and then the pro departments are
really kind of finalizing their free agency board who they
want who are must have because the end of the day,

(02:54):
for most teams, I mean, it depends how much money
you have. But you're targeting, you know, the teams target
two or three players and maybe one or two big, big,
quote unquote splashy players. And let's face it, there aren't
like super famous guys that often hit true free agency,
but guys that you target, guys that you want and

(03:16):
and yeah, that's kind of how you attack it, and
it all kind of funnels up. I guess you work
hand in hand with your gm as as a department
and your coaching staff, so everyone's got to get on
the same page. You know. The Eagles, Yeah, a couple hangovers,
this is this is probably a busy week, you know
for Howie see Rianni and the boys in Philly. Same
with same with each and everybody. So it's it comes

(03:37):
at you fast, furious. Think of all the shitty teams,
the advantage they have had being mean's February nineteenth, right,
I mean, so the bad teams, especially if you didn't
need a coach, like the Giants who just kept everybody
like they've been working for a month and a half.
So if they can't get this right, maybe maybe they
never will. But I wanted to start back with just

(03:59):
some big lessons and themes that I think we can
take away from twenty twenty four and apply it moving forward.
And I think the biggest theme of twenty twenty four
was the explosion of the running backs. And there's this quote,
you know, I try to keep a little quote log
in the phone and sometimes I go back and, you know,

(04:20):
things to spark the mind. And there's something that's that
I wrote down a long time ago that you know,
sticks with me to this day, and it's that fortunes
are made in the down markets and they're collected in
the up markets. So basically, you buy things for cheap
when disaster strikes, and those appreciate as times turn. And

(04:42):
I think you saw that with the running backs, right.
It was a situation where these wide receivers were making
thirty to thirty five million dollars and they were more
than doubling high end superstar running backs value. Despite these
guys running for twelve to fifteen hundred yards catching and

(05:05):
scoring a bunch of touchdowns on the ground, they were
clearly very important players. The problem was their risk for
injury was dramatically higher. Than wide receivers. But it's been proven,
and it was definitely proven this year that like you
get a really good, impactful running back, they're the best

(05:25):
deal in American sports right now because they do not
cost any money relative to other impact players. Star tackles
cost twenty five to thirty million dollars, pass rushers are
gonna cost thirty five to forty. Wide receivers cost thirty
to thirty five. Yet you could get Sakuon Barkley for
basically thirteen million dollars a year. You could get Derrick Henry,

(05:46):
a Hall of Famer, for eight million dollars. You could
get Josh Jacobs, who's I don't know, one of the
better all around players in the NFL, for a twelve
point five million dollar signing bonus. Like that was crazy,
and no team benefited as much as the Eagles from
you know, coming in and getting Saquon Barkley for less

(06:08):
than thirty million dollars. Think how many guys on their
team make more than thirty million dollars guaranteed. You know,
Lane Johnson, Jordan Mylotta, obviously, the wide receivers, the quarterback,
the tight end, you know guys you know over the
course of their careers. I know Fletcher retired, but you
know their defensive lineman, Jalen Carter will surely get that

(06:30):
sligh back in the day when he was getting big contracts.
So like you got Saquon Barkley, who pound four pound
is whatever the quote unquote top one hundred, which let's
face it is just off season content and can be
kind of stupid. But like Sejoa, Barkley's gonna be pretty
high on that list. You know, he's gonna be really
high on that list, just like two years ago Christian

(06:51):
McCaffrey was really high on that list. Because when you
get a guy who can do it all, you can
ride him to the promised Land. And when you have
a really good offensive line or a good offensive schemer,
you can take advantage of it. But to me, why
these running backs are so valuable is they don't cost
any money. Like I love all these people, and it's
one thing if you don't have the money, but people

(07:13):
that did have the resources, like God, I should have
bought more real estate in two thousand and nine, ten,
twenty eleven, Well some people, did you know, people like
me had no money, Not that I was even thinking
to wasn't even an option, But there were people that
did have the option and were like, ah, it's too.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Scary if this is not a good decision, And there
were people that did and then dramatically benefited over the
next decade. Just like when stocks crash, a lot of
people run. Some people view it as a sale. And
I think Howie Roseman, who's widely considered the best Gennel manager,
looked at Saquon Barkley like a fucking bargain. Same thing

(07:49):
with the packers, like wait, you're getting rid of Aaron
Jones for Josh Jacobs. Yeah, he's an upgrade and he
doesn't cost much money. The Henry thing, I mean, he
was just older. Anyone could have had him. He got
eight million dollars guaranteed. And listen, this doesn't just go
for running backs as well, like part of being a
successful operation, I would say anything in life, sometimes you

(08:10):
got to get some deals on things that then turn
out to be pretty fruitful. You can't always pay a
premium and expect a premium. Sometimes like you got a
damn I got that.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
For pretty cheap and it worked out. I would say
that's a formula in any industry. You can call it luck,
you can call it good timing, whatever it may be.
Like the Minnesota Vikings got Sam Darnold this year for
ten million dollars, and while his last couple games were
not great, he had a fantastic season. Was an MVP
candidate for ten million dollars. At quarterback. Tuatanga bai Loa

(08:42):
just got over two hundred million dollars. Trevor Lawrence literally
got two hundred million dollars guaranteed. Last year. Gardner Minshew
and Joe Flacco, I don't think made it combined ten
million dollars, and Flacco led the Browns of the playoffs
and Gardner Minshew had them a couple of plays away.
So like, you need to get bargain deals with impact
players in the NFL. Obviously the Eagles, it wasn't even

(09:04):
just Saquon Barkley. They got Zack vond for nothing. He
turned into an All Pro. Makai Beckton wants a top
ten pick. Looked like he was just gonna be a
flame out and just a throwaway player. They moved him
to guard and he's a key player in the best
offensive line in the NFL. So it's like we talk
a lot about the high priced guys and the guys

(09:26):
making you all this money, the TJ. Watts, the Bosa's,
the Chris jones Is, the CD Lambs, the you name
it right, justin Jefferson's like, to be really good, you
gotta have some guys on some bargain deals that then
not only exceed expectations, become like all pro pro Bowl
level guys. And that that was on full display this year.

(09:49):
Sakuon Barkley, Derrick Henry, Jacob, Sam Darnold. Teams that were really,
really good. Obviously, the Eagles were the best team, but
all these other teams, playoff teams right in the mix,
competing for the best records in the NFL, all had
impact players on very very cheap deals. And you know, listen,

(10:09):
I'm guilty of this. We're all guilty of this. We
all say it, and we're going to continue to say it,
and it's never going to stop. It's a quarterback league.
You can't you don't have a chance without a quarterback. Well, yeah,
you need a quarterback someone to play that position. True,
and I agree, like you need a really good player
at the position. You can't compete with a bottom ten

(10:32):
quarterback in the NFL. But what makes football so special
is this is not basketball. I can't just if I
give you Michael Jordan or Shaquille O'Neill in his prime,
or Nikole Jokich or whoever, Steph Curry and his prime,
Kevin Durant, more than likely, team's going to be pretty good,
and more than likely if you just do a decent

(10:53):
job building it, your team's going to be really good.
In football, there is no guarantee. Because we saw Joe
Burrow have an elite season, he was in the MVP
mix and his team did not make the playoffs. He
threw forty three touchdown passes. To put that into perspective,
Patrick Mahomes through twenty six Yet Patrick Mahomes team was

(11:16):
the number one overall seed and if they didn't throw,
the last game could have gone sixteen to one. Yet
Joe Burrow had to claw, scratch and bite his way
to just get above five hundred. Is a team sport,
and it's the ultimate team sport. You cannot do it
on your own. And listen, you need Mahomes, you need

(11:39):
Joe Burrow, you need Lamar Jackson, you need Josh Allen.
I'm not arguing against that. No one would. But you
need a good team. You need good defensive players, you
need good coaching on that side of the ball, you
need good coaching on the offensive side of the ball.
There are so many pieces in this sport that not
one man can carry you. We literally saw it with

(12:00):
Joe Burrow who was having an unreal year and they
were losing games because they couldn't stop a nosebleed. And
I think it was on full display this year with
the Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes. You could argue it wasn't even
a top five quarterback all season. Obviously we all consider
him the top quarterback, but just based on this individual
season in a vacuum, like he was okay, now, you

(12:21):
could argue it wasn't all his fault. The offensive line
wasn't great, running for his life most of the year.
But they were a good team. They're a well run operation,
and that operation carried them all the way to the
Super Bowl, where they met a team that was also
a well run operation who just had way more talent
and kicked their ass. But I think we talked about
the quarterback. The quarterback. The quarterback is your team any

(12:42):
good like you have good players, you have good coaches,
because if you don't like this isn't Lebron James in
his prime. I don't give a shit, Like we can
beat you if we got a better team. And that's
what makes I would say football so unique, so fun
to watch because there are so many different variables that play.
I've said this forever, like I don't relate very well

(13:04):
to cheap, rich people like I just I don't. I
can't comprehend their way of thinking. And I don't mean
like drawing a line on certain things like having certain
expenses that we're just we're just not going to pay
that for that, Like obviously certain things don't impact whatever
your industry is. It's like, we don't need to stay

(13:26):
in the four seasons. We can just stay at the Marriotte, right,
or some executive like listen, I can stay. I don't
need to ride first class. It's like, yeah, that's that's
your prerogative. I maybe it doesn't impact ultimately your business. Right.
I saw Deon Sanders. He saved Colorado like over two
hundred thousand dollars because he doesn't recruit in the sense

(13:47):
of he doesn't go to any high schools and he
doesn't go to any living rooms. So he's like, he
gets a budget that he gets whatever, two hundred two
hundred fifty thousand dollars of private aviation if he wants
to go recruit. He didn't use any of it. And
he said one like, that's not how I run my operation.
I don't the value there for us. I don't need
to do that, and two like, I'm a businessman, like

(14:09):
I don't just view like these resources as just unlimited,
Like I understand like anytime that I can save the
university money, it benefits us big picture, like I look
at it that way. But in football, non player, by far,
the most important person you can have in your building
is the head coach. And we see over and over

(14:32):
and over again teams go cheap at that position, you know,
and when you do then everyone complains like why do
we suck? It's because I don't know that position kind
of matters. And the going rate for good ones in
college football is now ten to twelve million dollars. In
the NFL it's fifteen to twenty. So when you have

(14:53):
a coach making five six seven million dollars more often
than not, you have no fucking chance. And listen, these
owners have proven some of them with artificial turf at
their stadium. They don't even have the nicest version, so
they will go cheap. And you can be like, well,

(15:14):
rich guys, didn't just waste money. I agree. No one's
asking them to just buy fifty Lamborghinis for the hell
of it. But if you're not going to invest in
the best turf when you have a payroll of two
hundred and fifty million dollars in terms of players, and
the business model of the NFL is literally the games, Like,
I'm sorry, I read flag some of your decision making,

(15:36):
and when some of these organizations constantly go cheap at
coach when you have the opportunity to pay I don't
know Jim Harbaugh, but what is Jim Harball. He's expensive
And it's why I give the Chargers credit. Forever. It
was like, how can we get a cheap guy that
we kind of like Brandon Staley He'll cost five million,
Anthony Lynn he'll cost four million, Mike McCoy he'll cost

(15:58):
three million. It's like and then you guys wonder why
you fire him after every two or three years. And
finally they broke the bank for Jim Harbaugh and they
went from a team drafting number five overall. That was
an absolute joke to being the five seed. And Sean Payton,
the the Walton family that does have unlimited resources, goes, yeah,

(16:18):
we're not gonna go cheap. At coach Sean Payton, what's
it cost to get you? He's like, it's not gonna
be cheap. Ninety million dollars. Okay, here's a check. You're
in charge. Two years later, rookie quarterback in the playoffs,
first time for Denver in a decade, and you know,
I thought it was on full display with the La Ramps.
Mcveigh's team. Look at what he's dealing with. He's dealing

(16:39):
with a thirty seven year old met Stafford Cooper cup
fell off a cliff. So he's got a Pooka Nakua
who they drafted in the third or fourth round. They're
dependent on rookies on the defensive line, and they were
a player two away from literally beating the champs on
the road in a snowstorm. Coaching really matters, and it's
not shocking when you look at, you know, the final four,

(17:02):
the final eight, it's the Andy Reids, Megan twenty million,
it's the John Harbobs making sixteen seventeen million, it's Sean
McDermott probably making fourteen fifteen million. You know, it's Sean McVeigh.
Nick Sirianni's a little bit of an outlier, but guess
what Nick Siriann's gonna want this offseason? A rays It's like, hey, guys,
I've been in two Super Bowls in three years. You
can say how he runs the show, but like, I'm

(17:24):
kind of the head coach, So do I get fifteen
million dollars? And that's gonna be an interesting conversation. But
don't go cheap with things that matter. And I would
use that in any walk of life. And I think, like,
I'm not acting like you should just blow money left
and right, especially people with money, but things that impact
directly your business and things that impact it the most.

(17:48):
When you cut corners on that, you deserve to lose
in any industry, and I think football, it is on
full display. Pay high level coaches and I think last
but not least. And we've known this for a but
we talk about a lot on like the mail bag.
When this time of year comes around, it's like, oh,
how sweet is that wide receiver? How awesome? Would that

(18:09):
dude McMillan from Arizona be how about this dude from Missouri?
Get me that wide receiver from Ohio State. It's like,
you know, shouldn't I know it's not a sexyed, but
shouldn't we just take that right tackle in the first round?
You know, it's pick twenty four. I would love to
have that wide receiver, But couldn't this guy be my

(18:29):
starting center for the next decade? And so many teams
talk that talk. They act like that's their philosophical belief
in football, the trenches. We're gonna build the trenches. And
then they draft a wide receiver. It's like, what what
are you doing? And it was on full display last
year in the draft with Ryan Poles, who played offensive line,

(18:52):
and when he played offensive line in college, he protected
Matt Ryan. So I understand taking Caleb Williams and trying
to get him help surrounding him, but it doesn't matter
if he's got Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin and Shannon Sharp
run around out there. If you can't protect him, you

(19:13):
don't have a shot, especially with a guy that kind
of holds onto the football and you can't tell me
and listen, I love Roman Duns. I'm pro wide receiver.
I like wide receivers like I I enjoy the position.
I have a lot of respect for it. But it's
gonna happen again this year where it's like, you take
a wide receiver high when you need lineman. This you

(19:34):
could argue defensive lineman too. You only have yourself to
blame when when you're pissed off in Week six that
you can't protect anybody. And I think the best teams
not only value that position, but live by that motto.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I've seen it with the forty nine ers. Kyle Shanahan
believes that offensive lineman you can scheme around him, and
you need skill guys. It's like, yeah, I agree, you
need skill people to score points, but if you can't
protect people, you're in You're up shit's creek without a paddle.
And I'm just I'm just pro drafting those guys over

(20:09):
and over again and letting the cream rise. I don't
think you can ever draft enough offensive and defensive lineman.
So listen, as we move forward, these are things that
you know when you talk about down markets, what will
that position be. I think anytime you can get a
good linebacker or a good safety. They just don't cost
that much money. And most of these other positions, like

(20:31):
you're paying beachfront real estate prices. Right, that's if you
want a top wide receiver. It's like t Higgins. Let's
just say, you know, rumors are that he might get franchise,
but if he hit the open market, I mean he
would get so much money, your job would hit the floor.
So it's like, when these guys hit the open market,
you do have to pay probably an extra premium because

(20:52):
they're a free agent and you got other guys bidding
against them, let alone the position they play. You have
no problem doing that for the Micah Parsons, the Miles Garretts,
that Blaine Johnson's, the Trent Williams, the Tristan Worse. Like
you don't even hesitate with the lineman, but sometimes with
the wide receiver, Like is this the best allocation of assets?
Not because the guy's not a good player, Because well,
can I find a really good player in like the
second or third round? And the answer always says yes

(21:14):
you can. The answer is one percent, yes you can.
So I think the running back market's still moving forward.
Anytime you can get these guys for cheap. You gotta
think long and hard because if you do have a
good offensive line that they can they can change the game.
I mean, look at the Lions. Jamir Gibbs has become,

(21:37):
you know, the young version of like Alvin Kamara, Christian
McCaffery and catch the ball. He can run the ball
inside and out. He's so fast, he's such a dynamic
playmaker in space. And he's gonna count if he stays
healthy for the next couple of years. I would say
fifteen to eighteen touchdowns a year. It's kind of important.
Look at some of the top wide receivers. It's like, oh,
I got seven touchdowns, he got nine touchdowns, Well, this

(21:58):
guy's getting me fifteen.

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Speaker 1 (23:41):
A couple little things. The chargers the NFL loves this
Brazil game. Never been to Brazil. I mean, looks like
a beautiful place, and clearly the NFL enjoys Brazil. Maybe
they got a growing fan base down there. But the Chargers,
the Eagles did it last year, or do the Packers
do it last year? I forget who's home that was.

(24:01):
I think it was Green Bays. Could be wrong, but
this will be the Chargers. So clearly they're going to
go AFC NFC every year. Try to keep it, you know, equitable,
and the Chargers will host that Brazil game, which one
thing the NFL is gonna do, you know, the opening
game Thursday nights. BP fastball, Like, it doesn't get any easier.

(24:22):
You take the Super Bowl champion and then you just
pick some sweet team on their schedule. Like this year
it's like Chiefs, Chiefs, Ravens. It's like, yeah, that'll work.
I mean this year will be like Eagles up, you
go Eagles, Commanders, you go Eagles. I think they play
the Rams. You pick Million Tames. It's an easy one.
You pick any sweet team on their schedule. A couple
of years ago was Chiefs Lions. It's not shit. You

(24:45):
could do. Eagles could play like the local high school
and twenty million people will watch. Were so football starved.
But that second game, I think they kind of gave
the blueprint. Eagles Packers. What was that matchup? With two
playoff teams? And I would expect the Chargers like I
would expect another playoff team. I wouldn't expect like Chargers Jags,

(25:06):
you know, or Chargers Bears or something. I don't even
know who's on their schedule, but I would be stunned
if it's not another team that was in the playoffs
last year. I honestly, I think you could go, maybe
they're anti doing division matchups in these games, but because
of the Chargers home game, why couldn't you do Chargers Denver?

(25:27):
I don't know. I would say most things would be
on the table. Chargers Chiefs probably would not happen, but
it wouldn't totally shock me if that were to happen.
The chief content officer from Netflix gave a did an interview.
I think I don't know if it was with the
Ringers podcast that covers kind of the you know, kind

(25:51):
of content industry or variety A variety was a different
something else I read, but yeah, it was with I
think the puck, and he mentioned that their interest in
NFL games is moving forward. Is basically I'm giving the
cliff Notes version of like they would be very interested
in the Sunday package and talking about like Sunday night

(26:12):
or Sunday afternoon games, and essentially that you know, the
NFL hasn't opt out of their contract in twenty twenty nine.
Well a couple of years ago that sounded like it
was a long long way away, but twenty twenty five.
But twenty twenty nine, I might have like a three
year old. So Netflix, this was always going to be

(26:34):
an issue is that these older owners, like the Jerry Jones,
the Robert Crafts. I would put Mark Davis, I would
put anyone over sixty sixty five through their seventies and eighties,
their loyalty to Fox, CBS and NBC runs fucking deep,
because when they go home to their third mansion in

(26:57):
Aspen or some Italian village or get on there hundreds
of millions of dollars worth of yachts, it's because of
those networks. Well, those networks, I'm sorry, are probably not
all going to survive as we move forward. And definitely
the power in which they have had most of my
life is diminishing by the day, and operations like Netflix

(27:23):
aren't just coming on, They're establishing their dominance. I was
listening to a podcast and I guess there was an
article in Variety that the number one place that YouTube
is consumed in twenty twenty five is not your phone,
is not your computer, is not like your device, like
an iPad. It's on television. And if you think about it,

(27:46):
think of the percentage of younger people that, like I
don't view YouTube as an app in the sense of
Amazon Prime or Netflix or even YouTube TV on my television.
I don't watch YouTube on my television. I'm clearly I
don't know if I'm necessarily the minority, but there is
a large percentage of people that do, and I would

(28:06):
imagine they all lean young. So when you look at
moving forward, like this was always going to end for Fox,
CBS and NBC if they got into a bidding war
with the Amazon Primes, with the Netflix, with that world,
if the younger generation took over. And I don't mean consumer,

(28:27):
I mean Steven Jones, I mean Jonathancraft, because they're loyalty
to these like this is ultimately a business and ultimately
they can convince their fathers as well as like they're
offering us double what this operation is offering us. And
I always thought that was going to be the downfall
of Fox and NBC because they can't get into a

(28:47):
bidding war with Netflix or Apple. Those people have more
money than them, and those people can write a check
that they simply cannot. So when this opt out happens,
and after seeing the NBA package, their ratings diminished by
half within the decade, and they more than doubled their package.

(29:08):
And obviously it's the power of live rights. The NBA
is a little different the NFL. There's just a lot
more inventory on a nightly basis, but the power of
the NFL speaks for itself. It's the number one television
show in America. And I just think Netflix the NFL
didn't do that Christmas Day deal randomly, Like it's not
only a trial run. It's like, let's start kind of

(29:29):
feeling each other out. How many of you guys listening
that are in sales or in some business. You go
to some random dinner sometimes with maybe competing brands or
maybe people that you're not even in business with, to
kind of kick off the relationship, and then it just
kind of organically grows over time, and then now you
look back five ten years later, you're like, we're doing
a lot of business together. We're making a shitload of money.

(29:52):
That was the best, you know, golf trip I've ever
taken in my life. That was the right move. It
was a good thing that we we offered them super
Bowl ticket. Whatever business you're in to take care of
someone else, and that's essentially what the NFL did with
the Christmas Day games. Now they had to pay for it,
but it's like, hey, what your beak and what did
Netflix do? They're like, god, damn, we got twenty five,
twenty five thirty million people to watch these games. And

(30:16):
this is why my theory of the NFL going international
is not about placing a team anymore in the UK
or Germany or Brazil or wherever. It's really about building
the audience. So when these games are on Netflix, people
over their watch because I see it with my own product.

(30:38):
Right when I was on local radio, no one in Brazil,
no one in England, no one in Japan on an
Air Force base, listen to me. People that listened to
me lived in the Greater Bay area, And honestly, our
signal didn't go that far, so you had to be
within I don't know whatever the mile radius was, but
it wasn't that big relative to the other station. Well

(31:01):
in the world I'm in now, I got fucking people
listening to me all over the place. And you talk
about the NFL. It's like, why can't the dude you
know living in Germany that likes football watch my game? Well,
he can if it's on Netflix. Do you know where
he can't if it's on Fox. And I just think
it's gonna be a major major problem for these traditional

(31:21):
legacy brands. This is why I've defended the Peacock situation.
It's not ideal that you had to pay for Peacock
to watch. What was the playoff game the Dolphins against?
Was it the Chiefs a couple of years ago? I
think there was one. Was there one this year too?
I get people being mad, I do, but NBC cannot

(31:43):
survive with NBC, so they couldn't just put it on
NBC and be like, oh, we're gonna be good for
the next ten twenty thirty years. They will die. So
the only chance for their survival And I'm not like
NBC doesn't pay me any money. I just I just
understood where they were coming from. Is like Peacock working out,
Like if it doesn't work out, NBC will go night night,

(32:07):
as in like never waking up. And these streaming platforms
for these people has to operate and has to work
because if it doesn't, they cannot and listen, They're never
going to compete against Netflix. Netflix is all these people
wrapped up into one. One of my great investing regrets
was like five years ago when I like love the
company and realize, God, everyone is watching this not doing it,

(32:31):
and everything they've done kind of has turned to gold.
And the irony too is I don't even think their
content is that great. It's like I go on there
sometimes like there's a million shows, like we end up
not even watching anything. Yet I do believe that most
people their first move now is to go to Netflix.
The power of the brand. It's massive, and they've had
a long time building it up, but now they have

(32:53):
a ton Their war chest of cash is so big,
and they want this like this is something they're very
serious about. Because the live events thing, whether it's the
Tyson Jake Paul thing, whether it's the Brady Roast. Obviously
the Christmas games. They like the returns on those things
because a lot of people like they're a worldwide brand.
And I think the one thing the NFL showed them

(33:14):
on Christmas, which is it doesn't get much better. Everyone's home.
But they're no dumbu is. They know a ton of
people would watch if they had one of the Sunday
afternoon packages. And I would fully expect I would bet
a lot of money right now that Netflix is by
whatever the date is, you know, whether it's twenty eight,
twenty nine, who knows, And the NFL looks to re

(33:37):
up their packages that we go to Netflix on a
Sunday afternoon or Sunday night, but Sunday, and we already
know the international game, and Roger has talked about this
that there is going to be a full slate of
international games, so basically instead of six or seven, there's
gonna be like fifteen. Well that's going to be sold

(33:59):
as an individual passage as well, so which I don't
love because unlessen there's a first world problem, I could
be fucking digging ditches. But like, that's a long football day.
You know, if you've got a football game starting for
us on the West Coast at six thirty am till
basically nine to thirty at night. There's a lot of day,
there's a lot of time watching ball. Now, luckily the

(34:21):
Sunday morning games have been kind of crappy over the year,
so you can kind of pick and choose. But no
one cares about where I stand on that. But that's coming,
and that's guess what that's gonna be. It's gonna be
a standalone package. Well, they've sold Amazon for whatever billion
dollars a year for Thursday night games. What do you
think they'll sell the standalone morning game international for a

(34:42):
lot of money? What do you think they'll sell the
individual game to Netflix once a day? Maybe Netflix just
gets their own game on Sunday, and maybe Fox and
CBS can continue with Jim Nantz and you know Buck
and I guess Buck and Aikman are gone. I guess Brady.
So it's just get ready, Like change is inevitable in
business because the consumer. Back to the YouTube thing. Think

(35:02):
about five years ago, the way we talked about YouTube,
it was important, but it's nowhere near the power of
it is now. Like things people would ask me, like
what do you want to do with your career. Like,
I don't know. I work in a business that changes
is every ten minutes. I just want to keep having
the access or having people have ability to access me
or wherever that is. If YouTube were to die tomorrow,

(35:24):
it's not going to and something else started and it
was clearly going to work, I'd get on that. I
don't really care. I'm not emotional about any of these platforms,
but certain platforms are really powerful, and the way that
we consume everything has changed dramatically in five years. If
you would have told me five years ago I was
paying three four hundred dollars for cable, I don't even
have a cable box in my television and I make
my living off watching television and talking about it. Think

(35:47):
about that, I don't even have a cable box in
my house and I make a living off television. So
like that tells you everything you need to know. And
if you have the opportunity, and I spent a lot
of money on get this house wired, I would highly
recommend YouTube TV. If you guys want to advertise on
the show, holler out of Google. But because I'm a

(36:08):
user of the product, it fucking work. It's sweet. It
is awesome and obviously YouTube TV now has you know
the NFL package, It was just a seamless transition for me.
But yeah, man, I just it's crazy. And last but
not least, I guess they caught the guys that robbed
Kelsey and mahomes and it was the Chilean Gang. Well,

(36:29):
the Chilean gang. Where my brother lives in Davis, California,
which is right next to Sacramento. There were a bunch
of homes robbed, and he lives on a golf course
and his house wasn't robbed, but the dude right across
the kind of the course was, and there were like
two or three other homes in the area robbed. One
guy actually because they all play golf together. One guy

(36:52):
at I mean a decent amount of cash, you know,
one of those old school like sock drawers, like wait,
you had eighty five thousand dollars in cash in your
fucking sock toors? Like what is this? Nineteen sixty eight?
Like hey, Rayleota called, like you put it in a bank, buddy,
but obviously roll axis. But it came out that it
was the Chilean gangs. And then where I live kind

(37:14):
of right, up the street from me. There were some
robberies at a super nice kind of country club area
and guys like didn't necessarily come up the golf course,
but these things in the desert called the wash, so
you basically your home backs up to desert the areas
and a bunch of high end, super rich people got

(37:35):
jacked and they eventually caught him. And they were both
in Davis and in Scottsdale. Both Chilean gangs and the
Chilean gangs are running this operation of sending people here
and they rob your homes and they typically do it.
I don't know the specifics on the Kelsey Joe Burrow
that kind of crew, but like in Davis and in Scottsdale,

(37:55):
and I think they hit a super nice area in
was it Minnesota or Michigan as well. Is they do
it during like time when you leave your house to
walk your dog from like four to six, and they're
in and out and they come they basically case the
joint through a wash or through like some area where
they can just run away, but they're not like locked
and loaded with weapons. Basically, the Chilean's understood that if

(38:18):
we get arrested, especially in the last like four years.
You wouldn't get in any trouble, especially if you're not
packing heat. You're not gonna take anyone down. You just
you get released on bond, you're out of the country.
But they've been getting away with it for a long time,
and they clearly attacked some of these high end players
and the Chilean gang like are operating a pretty high
level operation. Hopefully it comes to an end, but they

(38:40):
have been pitting people high end neighborhoods all over the country.
So if you're gonna walk your dog man, you got
to keep an eye make sure there's not anyone looking
over the fence, because these people wi robbing and they'll
be in and out of your house. I mean I
saw some of the video because my brother knows all
these guys that hit his neighbors. I mean they were
in and out in like three or four minutes. Like

(39:02):
they are not casing your entire house. They're going right
to the master bedroom and typically you know, hoping to
get bags, watches, you know, if you're dumb enough and listen.
I'm not. We're all a little different, but I think
in this modern day society, and who knows, maybe I
get you know, this huge banking hack and I lose
all my money. But if you have, I'm all for
keeping a little cash on you. But the people that

(39:24):
have like one hundred thousand dollars in cash in they're socked.
Or it's one thing. If you have like a legit
gun safe and you got cash in there, it's like, okay,
you know, I get it. I know a lot of
people that do that. No one could get in. It's
bolted to the ground. You can't even get it out.
But if you're one of those people with like, yeah,
I got seventy five K in my uh in my
dress socks, it's like, yeah, I don't know if that's

(39:46):
the best idea, but who knows. Maybe to each his own. Okay,
let's do a little thing we like to call the
mail bag at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the

(40:10):
Instagram fire in those direct messages to get your questions
answered here on the show. Sometimes, you know, it gets
winter months, even though it's kind of sunny, it's kind
of been dreary around here. You look in when you
record your podcast, because we also do a video version,
and I'm looking at myself, I'm like, God, I need

(40:30):
to get some sun. I need to go, just go.
I'm getting married in a couple weeks. I cannot be
pasty and pale. I look terrible. I just need to
get some I need to get some rays. Tried to
go on a walk yesterday with no hat and just
get my head, but it got a long way to go.
So let's start with Dan. Given the t Higgins is
likely to be tagged by the Bengals, how would you

(40:51):
attack the Patriots offseason? They have by far the most
cap space in the league in a high draft position,
but it seems like a week draft in free agency
class at wide receiver and no line. What are your thoughts.
I would be careful. I mean, maybe it turns out
that way. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe by the time you're
listening to this, he's been tagged. But let's just let

(41:12):
everything play out. I think we'll have a lot of
information over the next week when it comes to tags.
When it comes maybe extensions, because you can extend your
own player. I would just I wouldn't get I wouldn't
have my hopes up and then have them shattered because
I see a report not saying that he won't. But
I think these things are very fluid. I just think

(41:34):
you got to be very careful and listen this Rabel
and Elliott Wolf, who's a packer guy. You know their
history is not going crazy in free agency. I mean,
think about Mike Vrabel's career. For some of you. You
guys are a little young, hell, I mean, I was
probably a sophomore in high school when the Patriots signed him.
But he got drafted in the mid to late nineties,

(41:56):
and I don't think he ever was a full time
starter with the Steelers. Belichick just loved his versatility. I
don't think he costs very much money when they signed
him in was it two thousand or two thousand and one.
So I just think sometimes in free agency everyone gets
so excited about like t Higgins, Like the best free
agent signings last year were like Zach Bond. You know,

(42:17):
it's not always some guy that costs a lot of
money and sometimes the sexiest guys. I remember when the
Niners they signed Javon Hargrave four years, eighty million, twenty
a year. It's a disaster. So I think he got
to be very careful about the excitement level offensive linemen,
Like you can sign random guys that can be a
good guard for you. I would just this is not

(42:42):
baseball where it's like can we get Juan Soda? Can
we get I saw Vladimir Guerrero Junior turned down whatever
the Blue Jays were offering him, So, like, you know,
you get guys like that, it's like they're gonna be sweet,
plug and play. Like you get Kevin Durant and free
agency in his prime or Shack that's not really football.

(43:04):
It's very rare that, like the best players don't hit
free agency, like Miles Garrett doesn't hit free agency, Trent
Williams doesn't hit free agency, you know those, Jamar Chase,
Justin Jefferson. So now doesn't mean you can't get a
good player in free agency, but it's it's not fools gold.

(43:24):
But I think the hype behind it doesn't always equal
the results. I got a buddy going to Scottsdale for
spring break, and I was talking to him about your
pod and stuff to do there. You brought up a
restaurant one time that you said was kind of a
hole in the wall, but it had this hangover sandwich
or something along those lines, and it sounded awesome. Now

(43:47):
he wants to try it. It was actually a hangover
burrito and it's called Tom's Thumb. It's a it is
a gas station that also doubles as a barbecue joint.
And now the barbecue joint was on television for like
Guy Fury's Triple D and I mean, it's a good
barbecue joint, but the hangover burrito is just if you're hungover,

(44:10):
it'd be bombed. I wasn't even hungover, and I ate
the thing. What do you think teams have to do
to compete for a championship on paper? He's talking about Seattle.
We have a talented roster, but it feels like we're
stuck in quarterback purgatory and continue to be below average
in the trenches. How does the front office try to
solve problems when consistently drafting in the middle of the

(44:31):
first round. You know what, John Schneider has kind of
turned in Seattle too. And this is a compliment in
the Pittsburgh Steelers of like they're never gonna suck. They
just are not going to suck. It's not gonna happen.
But they're not close to competing for a Super Bowl,

(44:51):
so it's like they're just drafting from eighteen to twenty
two every year, maybe as low as like fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
but never sniff in the top ten. And I mean,
look at the last couple years of peat, they were
winning nine games. Look at this year they went ten
to seven. What would happen if they rolled back the
majority of their team they win nine to ten games? Again,

(45:13):
I don't know what the answer is. I think you know,
with Schneider, he's selected so many high end players at
different positions, He's gonna find talent. I do think at
quarterback you're gonna have to get a little lucky. You
got lucky with Russell Wilson got him in the third
round and he was a star for game. Like, can

(45:34):
you find your Jalen Hurts Like, to me, that's the question.
Can you find your version of party? Just a young
player that you can pivot off Gino and he can
be a starter that you can build up the team
with this cheap contract and win around. Like, you're probably
not going to draft a quarterback in the first round,
but can you do that with you know, someone a

(45:57):
little later in the draft. I don't know the answer that. Honestly,
would you agree that the only reason Jalen Hurts won.
Speaking of Jalen won the Super Bowl was because of
his stacked team. Don't get me wrong, he's a great quarterback,
but he is no Mahomes, Lamar or Alt. Watching Jalen
win the Super Bowl is like watching the Ravens win
the twenty twelve Super Bowl. Joe Flacco is a great quarterback,

(46:21):
but he was on a very stacked team. Am I
crazy for thinking this? I think Jalen is much more
impactful than Joe Flacco. Uh, you know, we talked about it. Listen,
if you're comparing Jalen to Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen,
he's not as good as those players. No one would

(46:43):
argue that beside Jalen, But like Howie Roseman wouldn't argue that.
Where Jalen is valuable is he's a dual threat quarterback.
So yeah, he threw eighteen touchdowns, but he also ran
for fourteen and his tush push play like it's him.
A lot of people try quarterback sneaks. They don't work.

(47:03):
The touch push is because his power. We saw Josh Allen,
who is bigger, stronger than Jalen, couldn't get a yard
against the Chiefs. So I pulled up Flaco. In twenty twelve,
Joe Flacco threw twenty two touchdowns and he ran for three,
which I imagine we're all quarterback sneaks, So he had twenty

(47:24):
five total touchdowns. Jalen Hurts through eighteen. This year fourteen,
I think had thirty four touchdowns, so I had nine
more touchdowns this season. Now where Flacco is pretty special
is in their Super Bowl run. They played four games. Obviously,
they went four to hero, they won the Super Bowl.
He threw eleven touchdowns and no interceptions, so it was like,

(47:46):
it's like a dude who had a random golf career,
but like won a major. It's like, remember that time
he got really hot at the US Open. That was
kind of Joe Flacco. I think Jalen's a better player
than Joe Flacco. Right, if you could have twenty five
year old Jalen Hurts or twenty five year old Joe Flacco,
you would take Jalen Hurts. Part of Jalen Hurts is
he's a dual threat player. Now, were there times this

(48:10):
season when he was not playing well and they still
won games because of the team, But Jallen played well
in the Super Bowl that's the other thing, like Jalen
was not shitty in the Super Bowl. Uh here's my question.
Now the Super Bowl is over, I have been racking
my brain on the top five quarterbacks. Top three are

(48:32):
no brainers. Brady most Rings beat Mahomes Montana four to
zero in the Super Bowl, and then Mahomes I gotten
a tie. I got a tie at five with Peyton
and Elway. Both are elite, but both were not as
successful as the top three. Peyton kep getting beat by
the Pats and Brady. When he finally got the Super Bowl,
he faced the fastly inferior Bears team and won the game.

(48:54):
Elway was getting routed in Super Bowls. It was only
when he got a stacked team with Mike Shanahan as
his coach. And I can't think of anyone else. I
would put it four. I got an open slot. Guys
like ak Ben sacked team, young great player, stacked team,
only one Super Bowl. Marino probably best pure pastor, but
only one appearance. Kelly is nice, long question, so thanks

(49:17):
for reading. Yeah, I wouldn't disagree with you. I would
I would mix Rogers and farm In there as well.
Like I think the top five, I think Brady is
pretty pretty entrenched at one. I think, you know, Mahomes, Manning,

(49:38):
Montana are kind of all in that that group. I
think once you get like five to nine, I think,
I think you can have a lot of arguments. You know,
l Way, Marino, Farv Rogers, Steve Young. I think Steve
Young is a better player than Troy Aikman. I wouldn't

(49:58):
have I don't think many people would have Roy Aikman
as a top ten quarterback, though he's obviously really good player,
super Bowl champ several times over stut I mean legend.
But I think when you think top when I say
like Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre, I don't think Troy Aikman.
Hi John loved the pod. I never commented write anything

(50:19):
over the years, but I felt like this one. I
felt like this one was a disservice if I did not,
for the love of God, do not fly to Dubai
for your honeymoon. That was it was a joke. By
the way, I was not one. It's not my call.
Flying over the Mediterranean, all the options of the old
romantic cities and cobblestone streets that live in women's minds

(50:42):
to go to some fishing village in a desert converted
to a city more or less the last century due
to the oil boom in conservative muzzle of country. On
a longer flight for not even half the vibe is
not viable. Yeah, the Dubai trip will be John's. She
she ain't going on hunty moving Dubai. Uh question for

(51:05):
the pod. I, like so many people, have been a
Nick Sirianni hater, but winning the Super Bowl made me
think of him completely different. To win like this, he
is consistently for several years. He has consistently won for
several years. Must be an elite leader of men, because
I don't know what else he does. But then I
see a video on the Eagles YouTube channel of the

(51:26):
offensive and defensive captains giving speeches the day before the game.
Almost everyone, even the players like CJ. Gardner Johnson made
me want to strap up and run through a fucking wall.
Does it say more about Sirianni that he's a leader,
or do the Eagles have a better core of leaders
than all of the NFL?

Speaker 5 (51:44):
Follow up?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Do you remember a locker room speech that stood out
to you part of building a team, whether you're Bill
Walsh Andy Reid, Belichick or your Nick Sirianni is the
better players. If your best players are super high character,

(52:08):
tough football guys, you're gonna have a much higher chance
to win. So it's like when you see those speeches
and they were really good. You know, Lane Johns, I
saw Lane Johnson's, I saw Jalen's. But I think most
times when you get to the Super Bowl, like pretty
high level dudes on these teams, like this isn't a
bunch of slappies. Those are on the teams draft in

(52:29):
the top ten. When you look at the Eagles like
they got you know, you watch Landon Dickerson and Lane
Johnson and Jordan Mylotta and Zach Bond and Sakwon and
Jalen like these are high level cats. You know this
is not this is not jolly fuck around. Strap it up,
let's play a little ball, like this is a serious

(52:49):
way of life. And I mean one that stood out
to me is when the Patriots beat the Ravens in
twenty eleven and Ray Lewis kind of gave this one
of like Joe Flacco, you do not get to hang
your head after this loss, because he was a pretty
polarizing player at the time, and he actually played well
even in the loss. And it's like part of the

(53:12):
reason the Ravens were good for so long is like,
look who their best players were. It's like, hello, Di Nada,
ray Lewis, ed Reid. You know, the Eagles are full
of like Brandon Graham. The same thing with the Chiefs.
It's like this isn't you got no chance to be
good if you don't watch speeches from players in the
playoffs and go Jesus, this is this is pre I mean,

(53:36):
I go back to when I was a kid, like,
think of the best players on the best teams. It's
like Troy Aigman, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Reggie White. You know,
it's like Brett fav You watch these guys any NFL
films clip you like, I want to run through a
wall for these guys, and I just think it's the
best teams have the best players who are also the

(53:57):
best guys. And I want to say best guys. I'm like,
from a football character standpoint, all in on football means
everything to them. It's this isn't like I love it
when people say like this is my profession, not my life.
Well it kind of is you work way more than
you around your family and stuff. Obviously your work doesn't

(54:20):
define you as like a dad or like a family guy.
But most people I know that are really successful, their
work is a huge part of their life, and I
don't want to say defines their life, but is a
huge defining part of just the way they live their life.
You spend a lot of time doing it, and it's
always bothers me and we're not that far away when

(54:40):
the media, most of the media, no one successful would
sign up for their life one. Most don't make that
much money too. Most, if you follow them on Twitter
over the years, can be a little miserable and they
can give, they can't take it. And when the draft
comes around. They love doing this because players get asked

(55:01):
like how big of a priority is football to you?
And teams get uncomfortable when you have like a balanced life. Well, yeah,
if I'm gonna pay a twenty three year old, I
don't know, twenty million dollars, I would like for football
to be a pretty big priority for them. Like, sorry,
call me crazy, that's sorry, I'm asking too much. This
is not a one hundred thousand dollars a year job,

(55:23):
like you don't just get to clock in and clock
out like this, especially quarterbacks, And I would even say
defensive an offensive lineman, like you better be all in
because I'm gonna need so much physical and mental toughness
out of you to be a good player. If it's
not a big part of your life, you just won't last.
It's impossible. The game is just way too hard. And

(55:43):
the media loves like, oh, why is everyone so obsessed
with their other interests, because it's hard to have other
interests during the football season. Not saying that you can't
do other stuff, but football takes a large percentage of
your time as a player during from August till ideally
the NFL playoffs. Like Patrick Mahomes isn't dicking around that

(56:07):
much for the last six months, neither Josh Allen. Maybe
around a golf here or there, maybe you know, a
date night once a week, but it's not he's not
watching Netflix three times, four times a week. It's just
he doesn't have time. He's exhausted. Takes a lot of energy,
it takes a lot of effort. And I just think

(56:27):
that that criticism always drives me fucking nuts. Yeah, sorry,
I like, I don't want the guy I'm investing in
a shitload of money to you know, have seventeen other
interests because it just diminishes and takes away your time.
It just does. Let's face it, I would say people
tend to be really good at things, pretty singular focused.

(56:51):
As a baseball fan, I feel in recent years there
has been a resurgence and viewership and attendance at baseball games.
Even if stadium hot dogs and beers are overpriced, there's
nothing better than taking the family out to a baseball
game on a summer afternoon. NFL will always be king,
but it feels like America's pastime is a comeback, is

(57:11):
making a comeback. What say you, Well, I think the
biggest brands in the sport are good, so that helps, right.
The two biggest brands, the Yankees and the Dodgers, were
just in the World Series. So it's like it's if
you could pick an ideal matchup in baseball, you would
go Yankees Dodgers every single year, every single year. Like

(57:34):
in basketball, what would the ideal matchup be? It would
actually be the Warriors Lakers. That's what Adam Silver would
choose to be as NBA Finals. Obviously it's impossible, but
that's what he would choose. Why because the two biggest
brands are Curry and Lebron, So I think it has
to be a I just think that. I don't know,

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it's hard to tell, you know, it's baseball is much
more of a local sport than a national sport, you know,
having moved from the Bay Area, where I mean, the
Giants have been so bad, but when they're just solid
or even good, they're a really big deal. Come to Arizona. Like,
I like baseball and I like having it on my background,
but like I don't watch any Diamondbacks games where you know,

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football for example, like I'll watch Cardinal games, I'll I'll
watch whatever. I won't watch random teams play baseball. And
that's you know, I don't know if that's ever gonna change.
But I think the Dodger story is a good one.
It really is. People like it's bad for baseball, Well,
what's good for baseball? Because what's been happening is not working.
So you might as well have a team that's like,

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couldn't be any more stacked, and have the teams try
to beat them, especially you know, the Mets. They have
this really famous owner who spending a shitload of money.
The Yankees are good Phillies. Try. Yeah, I don't think
it can be definitely not a bad thing. It's a question.
Have I played Sun City and Union Hills in scott
Still curious if you had played either course been an

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absolute grind? I know I've never Honestly, I've never even
heard of those enjoy I think he's coming for a
bat supporting. It seems like you're not a big baseball
getting a lot of baseball questions here. Not a big
baseball guy, but but that's my favorite sport. My question
is do you have any colleagues or guys you listen
to in the baseball sphere that have a similar vibe

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to you? Do you think there's a lot of people
putting out content like you do?

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Lol?

Speaker 1 (59:30):
And aside, I don't know, I can't. I don't even
know how to answer that question. I think, let me
try to say this in a nice way. I think
it's hard to have a business built around baseball podcasts.
Right the reason you see a lot more football podcasts
or NBA podcasts, or cultural podcasts or political podcasts. You

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can build businesses around those, you know, baseball the listenership.
I think I heard Portanoy talk about this like a
couple of years back about like and they were building
their kind of their podcast like the baseball podcast. No
one listens, So I think it's more that it's hard
for guys to make money on doing that, to have

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a to have an audience. But no, I don't listen
to any baseball content in terms of podcasts or YouTube
channels or anything. So I'm so I don't know if
there's anyone with quote unquote my vibe out there. Hope
there is. I hope he's killing it, though, mail Bag,

(01:00:32):
this is the last question. Cam Warden was recently quoted
saying he'll remember all the teams that pass on him
in the draft and they'll pay the price for not
drafting them. I'm a firm believer that humility is what
wins in sports, but guys continue to puff their chests
out all the time without achieving anything. Whenever I see athletes,

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especially quarterbacks, make comments like this, I immediately fade them as
players who will be successful. I feel like I'm usually
right Josh Rosen saying he was gonna win more Super
Bowls than Brady as a former scout, and someone who's
tied to the NFL. What are your thoughts on comments
like this, Uh, it's weird, like you do this long enough.

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I'm kind of numb to him. They don't mean anything
to me. They don't like is it false bravado? Yeah, Like, Bro,
you're fucking just playing in the ACC. A couple of
years ago, you were at incurrent word like, let's not
act like you know, you're at Ohio State here kicking
everyone's ass. Now you had a good season. I guess along.

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I don't really care, Like it doesn't bother me, but
I think if and I don't know really anything about
the guy, but I think if you did a deep
dive in people like, hey, he kind of acts. Maybe
he's just a little insecure about it. To me, those comments,
it's one of those if he becomes a stud player,
it looks really good, right, but I don't know what

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you have to be to gain from it. It's one
of those if it does not go well, everyone's ripping
you for it. Not that he's thinking about it like that.
I mean, let's face it, like when Brady went up
to Robert Craft, like during rookie mini camp in the
hallway and said, this is the best decision you'll ever make. Well,
once he becomes Tom Brady ages pretty well. I bet
there have been comments like that from guys that get

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cut in training camp. You're like, no one ever talks
about that, so anytime you do this, I mean, part
of it is he's a big, big star. Honestly, every
comment I've seen from Shador, just in regards to where
he gets drafted, you know how he doesn't view it
as a competition between him and cam Ward. I actually
think has been pretty high level. I haven't really seen

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anything from cam Ward beside the you know, I'm gonna
make them pay. It's like, bro, let's just let's just
fucking get drafted first. I'm with you. That's where I'm
inclined to be. But ultimately it doesn't impact anything. Like
what's gonna impact him? Is he good? Can he run
an offense? How hard does he work? Does? Like? Because

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physically he's pretty gifted. I mean that there's like he's
much more gifted than Shador. Like physically he is a
legit top ten prospect. And just in terms of like
physical qualities, Now, is he a good player? You know,
I don't know. I probably have to watch a little more.
I didn't watch that much Miami. Their their games were
just complete shootouts. I did watch a little of the

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cow game when he came starring back. He makes some
sweet plays. I mean he's overall, though, I think you've
got to be very careful about. One thing I've learned
when I worked in it and even doing this is
making with talented players. You know, like, I'm out on
this guy, right, because like, you can't. You can't pigeonhole

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yourself to a position that's like, well, like what if
he matures, what if he gets better? If he just
has an awful attitude and thinks he's way better than
he is, like he's gonna have problems. But what if
it's just a young guy? I mean, how old's Kim
Wore twenty two years old? Some people say dumb stuff.
He's twenty two years old, right, So I guess it's
a long winded way of saying, like, yeah, I would

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recommend like, hey, just just try to say the right
stupid cliche bullshit before you're drafted and then just you
can say whatever you want. But I would just just chill. Uh.
But it's clearly not the tact he's taken again. If
he's good, it'll be a legendary comment and whatever teams.
If he ends up going like fifth or seventh or

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eighth and bunch of teams fast on him, we'll talk
about it forever. If he sucks, we actually won't talk
about it that much because we just won't talk about
him that much. It just you just kind of be irrelevant.
The volume