February 26, 2025 • 33 mins
Colin talks to Albert Breer about Shedeur Sanders, the QB class in the AFC, Matthew Stafford, the Eagles, and more
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, it's the combine.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's been happening for a long time, but it has
grown in stature and relevance, and Albert Brera is now
joining us live. We've got news breaking as we speak.
Let's start with the San Francisco forty nine ers. A
little brock pretty news percolating.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
What say you? What's happening there?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Albert, Well, I think they're going to try to get
something done, and really the question I think is the timeline.
There's no doubt and there hasn't been any doubt that
they want to go forward with Brock Party as their quarterback.
But the market has materially changed, you know, really over
the last few years. Now you've got nine quarterbacks making
over fifty million dollars per year. The Niners obviously have
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a lot of mouths to feed with their roster being
what it is, and you know, guys like Nick Bosa
and Fred Warner and Trent Williams and Brandon Ayyuk at
the top of the market at their position. So how
does all this come together? And I think the other
thing you got to look at here, Colin is the
team's history and the way the team has handled these
things over the last few years, you know. And I
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thought back to, you know, the Jimmy Garoppolo negotiation, which
was done at the end of January. Believe it or not,
they got that one done almost immediately after, you know,
the first season the two sides had together, the first
half season they had together, you know, and since then
the negotiations they've had with their own players has been
a lot more difficult.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Deebo, Samuel, Nick.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Bosa, Brandon Ayuk, all those went all the way through
training camp, and so that I think is the biggest question.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I have confidence they'll get something done with with Brock Purdy.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I think the question is on one that on what
the timing looks like and is this something that gets
you know, tied up in the spring or are we
talking about, you know this when we get.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Deep into training game. I think that's the part that's
uncertain about it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Okay, I said, the Sam Donald's story confused me. There's
I think it could be Sam Donald's agent putting it
out there to create a market that the Niners or
the Vikings are still kind of interested in negotiating. And
I'm like, okay, then why did you give away picks
for JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Is it an injury thing?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It feels like somebody's trying to elevate the Sam Donald
market because now Aaron Rodgers is out there. What do
you make of the stories the Vikings are considering options
to do the Sam Donald contract and it not be
a franchise tag.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I think that the number, the mump sum number for
the franchise tag being over forty million dollars a year
complicates it. Most teams don't want to pay that all
at once.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Obviously it's not the ideal scenario for Sam either, although
I do think he really enjoyed playing in Minnesota and
got a lot out of playing for Kevin O'Connell, So
you know, I think the most likely scenario in this
case remains Sam goes to the market, and then they
see what Sam's market is and and they make a
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decision there accordingly, I think they'd like to have Sam back,
and I think they'd like to but I think they
but I think there's a limit to how far they're
willing to go with Sam.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So why not just go with JJ McCarthy, Like, is
are there reservations about JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Well, he's coming off the two knee surgeries and the
last one was just a clean up, So I think
that that's, you know, part of the part of the
equation here. I think coming back, like your question is
going to be is he going to be in a
position to hit the ground running when you get to
OTA's And is he gonna be in a position where
you're gonna be able to say to your team, we're
giving you the best chance to win at the most
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important position on the field.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
And they have confidence in JJ, and JJ did a
lot of things right.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
JJ pushed Sam last year like in a way they
didn't expect, Like it was a real, you know, discussion
point there in August before JJ got hurt, Like, you know,
is is there a scenario where JJ plays significant snaps? Now,
obviously the injury happens, and that changes a lot of things.
I think what you'd be looking at now is you know,
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where is JJ's weight at, Where does he how does
he look physically coming off the injury? Because these things
can take a toll on you, and so I think
those are the sorts of things that the Vikings are
watching right now when it comes to determining the management
of the quarterback position. And I think they're at least
going to backstop themselves. Now, does that mean Sam Darnold
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at twenty five or thirty million dollars a year?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
It could? Does that mean Daniel Jones at a lower number?
It could.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I don't think it's just going to be JJ and
some run of the mill back up. But I do
think they've got confidence that JJ can be a really
good quarterback for them in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Okay, let's get to the Stafford thing.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
My take is the Raiders news that Tom Brady called Matt'
average interesting And here's why, Pete Carroll say it out loud.
Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly, Max Crosby a left tackle that's redeemable,
even their center they on last year from Oregon.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I've got brought Bowers, who.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Is a transcendent weapon, and I'm looking at that and
I'm thinking, Okay, it's indoors. They'd give him more years
and more money than the RAMS would. That one felt
to me like I could seem I mean, think about this,
and I know this is I don't want to be
an accountant. Thirteen and a half percent taxes. RAMS will
give you two years, no state taxes. Raiders give you four.
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That could be a sixty seventy million dollars swing. Albert like,
I would listen to that if I was Matt Stafford,
would you.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I think it makes some sense for the Raiders in
that I think so much of what Tom Brady is
doing and trying to establish there is to add credibility
to the organization. Pete Carroll obviously is a very credible
head coach, higher John spot Tech is well respected across
the NFL coming in as his GM, And I think
a big part of this for Tom and working with
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Mark Davis is sort of reimagining who the Raiders are
and changing the way that they're perceived across the landscape
of all of sports, and so part of that is
bringing in the big money guys, having his own partner,
Tom Wagner part of the equation. Egan Durbin, you know
who's you know, the CEO of Silver like capital, Like
you've got resources, which is part of how you pay
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say six million dollars.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
A year to go and get Chip Kelly.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
And adding Matthew Stafford at quarterback I think would make
some sense from that standpoint in that you're gonna be able.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
To get competitive quicker.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
The bigger question I think if you're weighing the idea
of bringing in to Stafford versus maybe going and making
a run at Sam Darnold, is okay, like where does
this leave us in twenty twenty six? Where does this
leave us in twenty twenty seven? And if part of
the issue for Stafford with the Rams is well we
don't know where you're going to be a year from now,
two years from now, essensibly you probably have the same
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problem if you are the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
So I love the idea of it.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I do think it'll allow you to attract free agents,
and they've got a lot of resources there now to
attract free agents, and I think this is going to
be It can be a destination if you set it up.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
The right way and you have a quarterback to attract
people in.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I think the one question if you are going to
go and acquire Matthew Stafford, if you're the Raiders, has
to be what does this look like two or three
years from now?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
And are we close enough where we want to go
and take a win now sort of swing and give
up assets to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, so this is interesting, a little wonky, But the
NFLPA report card came out where the players tell you
what they think of their organization. I saw the Steelers
on the list of places players were not happy, and
that was the one that jumped out to me. I've
always thought Tomlin was a pro player organization.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That one jumped out to me.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Any surprises for you on the NFLPA report card about
teams players and how they feel about the franchise.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well, I think one thing that's definitely notable is has
gotten better. Like it seems like what they're doing is working,
you know. They They showed us a whole bunch of
different statistics and metrics that show that there are far fewer.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Failing grades for teams that players are handing out, and.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I think a big part of that is that a
lot of these guys were embarrassed by some of the
stuff that was out there on their teams, and so
I do think to some degree some of that stuff's
been fixed. It's interesting because I think the Pittsburgh thing
relates back to one thing that I think has got
to be a factor in all of these situations, and
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that's your team facility. I believe the Chargers jumped from
thirtieth to fifth colin and I know this. The Spanoses
have done a lot of, you know, good things over
the last year, and Jim Harbaugh makes a difference. But
how much that's just the building, you know, the facilit
and Miami and Minnesota one and two with two.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Of the newest facilities in the league.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I think part of Pittsburgh's problem is there in an
older facility that's attached to the pitt facility, the University
of Pittsburgh football facility. You share a bunch of stuff
with the University of Pittsburgh. It's just not this like
megaplex that you have in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Or you have in Dallas, you have in Miami, you
have now at the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You know, I think so much of that survey, a
lot of it is based on what your.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Physical building looks like. Ok.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
And Pittsburgh's isn't great Pittsburgh scored high in some other areas,
So I think that's one thing that definitely sticks out
every year is that like is tied to the facility.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
The other thing that I think is interesting is most
players are pretty happy with their head coaches. I believe.
I think someone got a B plus.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I was reading one of the blurbs someone got a
B plus and they were ranked like twenty fourth among
head coaches. So I mean, if you're giving your coach
a B plus and he's twenty fourth to thirty two,
and then you got all these players giving their owners
c's and d's and f's, you know, it tells you
that I think most the head coaches are connecting with
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their players, So that's a good thing too. New England
being at the bottom of the list was sort of interesting,
I think as well, when you sort of look at
this and say, okay, like how much does this have
to do with winning and losing and when you lose
the lust or being what they were for twenty years.
To see them thirty first overall, and then to see
the owner in the bottom five of the three categories
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that players were ranking them in, I think that was pretty.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
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Speaker 1 (10:39):
Shador Sanders is dropping in the draft. I said this yesterday.
My favorite quality of his, you know, draft status is
that he had a terrible run game, the worst in
Power five for two years, and the worst offensive line
for two years in college football, so he's had to
initiate offense. He'll probably go to a team without a
great offense intive line. There's a reason why so many
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quarterbacks in the NFL go to Wyoming, Texas Tech, Miami
of Ohio cal is that it's a real college experience.
It's a real pro experience that you're running for your
life with no run support. I think that makes Shador
more attractive. Why is he falling in the draft? It
does feel like there's a gradual regression.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
For well, first of all, I would agree with you
on that, Like I think if you're in Ohio State
or Alabama, and like, how often are you going past.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Your first progress out of your first progression?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Right?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Like how often are you going to number two? How
often are you going to number three?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
How often do you have to move in the pocket
to make things work to cover up an issue your
offensive line might have. I think all that stuff is
one hundred percent valid, and we've seen that with some
of the quarterbacks who've come out of the powerhouse schools,
where they've struggled because they haven't had to find those
answers that deep into an individual play, or they.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Haven't had to be as creative in making things happen.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I think the issue is Shador and this is going
to be a difficult thing for him to address over
the next six or seven months or six or seven weeks.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Is are you special in any one area?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Do you have a superpower trade or are you an
average athlete with an average arm in an NFL context?
Speaker 5 (12:13):
And I think that that's the way a lot of
teams look at him.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
He's not a great athlete, he doesn't have a big arm,
So like, where is the superpower that's gonna make you
want to take him in the top five?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
And I think he attached that, then to what the
teams in the AFC are looking up at.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
And that's sort of this mount Olympus of quarterbacks, right,
So if you're Tennessee picking first or Cleveland picking second,
I'll borrow a term that that Daniel Jeremiah used with
me a few days ago. It's almost like you have
to chase ceiling, you know, because it's not can this
guy be a good players? Can this guy be good
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enough to compete with Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson
and Joe Burrow in the AFC And oh, by the way,
when you get by those guys, you've still got more
eyes with a lot of upside in CJ. Stroud and
Trevor Lawrence and bow Nicks and Drake Mas a gauntlet,
you know. So like, are if you draft shaduor Sanders
in the top five or top ten picks, could he
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get up and running pretty fast?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I think he probably could.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, five years from now, are you going to be
comfortable giving him fifty five sixty sixty five million dollars
a year?
Speaker 5 (13:22):
I think that's the question.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I've always argued that what you don't want to be
in the NFL is it chaos at quarterback. I think
Shador Sanders is a little bit like Jared Goff. If
he has a good coach, he stabilizes you that he
completes passes, he moves the chains. He's not going to
get in trouble. He is very accurate. He stabilizes a
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tire fire of an organization, and there's about seven of
those a year in the league. He's not going to
change the ascension, but you won't have to worry about
quarterback for five years. Like he's a grown up that
completes passes. And that's what Jared Goff. He's out of
the news, moves the chains. I don't like him in
a cold weather. I don't like him against a great player.
But there is something to be said, like the Raiders
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need stabilization, the.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Browns need I mean the Bears need it.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Sometimes in this league, it's not what you can do,
it's what you won't do, which is get us in trouble.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And that again though, like it's just are you going
to be able to level up.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
And compete in the highest level?
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
And I agree like that he could come in and
stabilize that position for a team. You know, is he
going to get to a second contract or are you
going to be left in year three or year four
wanting for more and saying to yourself like is this it?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
You know? Is this all we're gonna get? It's sort
of the Mac Jones thing, right, Mac Jones was great
as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
They were able to get him out there and get
him up and running and playing at a pretty high
level pretty fast, and then it was sort of like
that was it with him, you know. And so that's
the biggest question with Shador, you know. And that's why
I think some teams view Shadoor as closer to to
Jackson Dart than maybe he is to cam Ward. I
think with cam Ward it's that's the chase the ceiling guy,
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Like that's the guy where it's not consistent enough, but
it's gotten a little bit more consistent over the last
couple of years, and you see the flashes of the
greatness with him, and maybe you look at him and
you say, okay, like I can envision, I can envision
where he's going to get there, and he's going to
be able to help us chase guys like Josh Allen
and Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson, you know,
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versus he's always going to be like we're always gonna
be the six or seven seam, We're always going to
be not quite good enough.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I think that's the concern with Shador.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Albert Breer at some swanky hotel in Indianapolis at the
NFL Combine, hopefully Monday morning quarterbacks, picking up the bill
on that looks very nice, nice brown molding there, very expensively, very.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Nice in here.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, absolutely, I h I wish my earpiece was was
working the way A lot of this stuff here in
the hotel is good.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Seeing him, my man, Albert Breery, all right, thanks guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I always think, because I have told you before, if
I didn't do this, I'd want to be an NFL
general manager, which is unrealistic. But if I if I
put thirty years into it like I did broadcasting, That's
what I'd want to do. I always think in the NFL,
at quarterback, you just don't want to be a disaster.
So if I can, like I always said, Kirk Cousins,
you bring Kirk Cousins into your organization. Is the ceiling
ye low?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, but the floor is so high like Shadur is
high floor, lower ceiling. He's grown up.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
He'll come in. He is very accurate, he'll move the chains.
He's not gonna he's not gonna initiate great offense, but
he's proven in college. No run game, battle line. He's
proven he'll stay healthy, he'll stay up right. He completed
seventy four percent of his throws. I think in the
last couple of years with no run game, they had
to throw. So it's like a lot of times, just
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just bring an adult in the room, stabilize my organization.
I don't want drama. I'm gonna have some drama wide receiver.
I may have some drama from my owner if I'm
a coach or a GM. I just don't want drama
at quarterback. I'll take Kirk Cousins. Stabilize it. I can
worry about other stuff for a couple of years. I'll
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draft the Michael Pennix behind him. But I know I'm
not gonna have That's why I always banged on Baker Mayfield. Baker,
you want to put the fires out, not start him
as a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
So two quick things. Number one is Aaron Rodgers does
he fall into that drama bucket Colin, because last hour
I think you were saying, Hey, Aaron Rodgers the Rams
or Aaron Rodgers of the reader, isn't he drama at quarterback?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
If I need him? But the Rams have so little drama.
I could bring him in for a year.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's like, by the way, when the Patriots brought in
Randy Moss, like we're structurally so sound, We're gonna bring
Randy in for a couple of years, and by the way,
Randy fit in and by year three he's a little noisy.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Okay, then it moves on.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Point is Jalen Hurts when he was drafted by the Eagles.
I know he went second round. Do you think anybody said, Oh,
the ceiling's just not high enough for Jalen Hurts. Meanwhile,
he's been fricking awesome right since he's been a starter
in this league. So I still believe that the NFL
does not know how to actively scout quarterbacks. They just
don't get it.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
If the Jets got him at number seven, so let's
look at the draft do.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
No way.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I'm just saying, if you look at the teams, if
if he got to seven, what are the Jets need
more than anything? Stability? Shador Sanders is great for the Jets.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, but he would have to fall to seven. Well,
let's see, need a quarterback. Brown Sea a quarterback, Giants
need a quarterback, Raiders need a quarterback. Like, come on, no,
some of those might take care of themselves in free agency.
But I'm almost willing to do one of these dinner
wager bets with you that Shador Sanders goes time.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Why don't you do a mock draft tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Talk to one this week? Well Box just hit me
up and was like.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
We need well Collins hitting you up. Why don't you
do one tomorrow? Okay, I to listen to this story.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We do j Schultz, we do Fresh for herd line.
Yere is it about this thing I'm looking at Jordan Schultz?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Is it a quarterback? Okay, No, it's something different. Okay,
go go go.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Tom Brady hosted Matt Stafford at his home in Montana.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
They went skiing.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Brady has been actively trying to convince Stafford to join
the Raiders. Several teams are interested in Stafford if the
Rams decide to move him. The Rams, i'm told, do
not want to move him. They just don't want to
give him three and four years. So can you imagine
skiing and you're getting on the chair lift and here's
Brady and Stafford flying down the hill, and you're Sean
McVay spying on him, and you got the goggles on
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You're like, what do you guys doing today?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
What are you guys talking about here? They probably know it.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
You got to pay Stafford. You cannot lose him. All
the momentum they've had the last few years with Stafford.
You gotta keep him. Why are they being so cheap
with him?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Time out? They're paying him twenty seven million a years.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Twenty seven mil for a top seven quarterback in the league.
What are you Dak Prescott's cant sixty.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
That's a bad contract.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Okay, fine, don't give me sixty, give me fifty. Maybe,
like I deserve to be paid.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh boy, it's not like.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You're going to a contract negotiation. That's what it sounds like.
Kind of pivoting and shows I'm not the only one
on the set. Okay, yeah, I've never that heard line
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By the way, that nfl PA report card, there's a
certain organization that got very low grades that.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
We've been banging on for a.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
About six months that a certain star quarterback plays for
and is not very happy.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I'll let you chase that down. Let's go to Jmack
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Speaker 6 (21:54):
Fun breaking ish news from the Combine. The forty nine
ers just announced they are working on a long term
extension for Rock Party. John Lynch just spoke about it
at the Combine. Colin, here's what they had to say
about Rock Purty in his contract.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
We have started negotiations.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
We're talking.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
I won't go into negotiations like always is our stance.
Want brought to be our quarterback as long as we're
here and beyond, and we'll leave it at that. I
think the final thing, there's no guarantees that we get
something done, but my experience has been when both sides
are motivated, there's ample opportunity to do so.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
No sounds like he's wavering.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
So some of the reports trickling out out of San Francisco,
Colin are that Party is gonna get Dak Prescott money,
but it's gonna be structured in a way that it's
not gonna hamstring the organization. I have a feeling this
is gonna be an eye popping number when it comes
out and you're gonna probably do two days lasting party
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and the.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Organ I'm not gonna blast party for getting money. It's
gonna be an organizational I don't blame Dak forgetting the money.
He's not a sixty million dollar quarterback. I don't care
what the market is. When it drizzles, he's not the
same guy and it's overcast. Well, I mean he's got
I've seen him in rainy situations. I mean, I I
don't think it's that hard. I've been pretty good on
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the quarterback stuff. I mean, darnold, I proved that he
was actually good. I think it's a I think there
are I will ask you this, and I'm talking traits.
What's his A plus trade and don't give me winning.
What is his A plus trade?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Size? Arm, movement, athletic ability, Well, what's the trait?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
I would say his ability to read the quickly read
the defense and identify and make the right throw. I mean,
he's a pretty cerebral quarterback back in the pot.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
And he's a very smart you know, he's a very
smart smart guy.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, I think that's right, and I hope that's worth
sixty large because I'd like to see some physical trait
that I can't duplicate.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
So I know you have Purty as a top ten
quarterback in the league. No, I don't, Oh you don't, Okay,
top fifteen?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Does he drop further or should he get sixty mil?
Because I think the contract does matter for some of
these guys. He was awesome on the chief.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
How's Dak looked now that he hogs up? You know,
twenty percent of the salary cap? How's Dallas look and
not great? Yeah, you have to basically hit on every
draft pick, which, by the way, Dallas has it. So
Philadelphia pays everybody, but they've hit on like six straight
defensive draft picks.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
The Rams. When you hit on draftic after draft pick
after I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
The Rams literally paid nobody on defense, so you can
they can afford to pay staffer.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
But but I mean Dallas last year. I look at
that draft. Yikes, did anybody hit on that draft? Zach
Martin just retired.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Yeah, it's not looking great. But you know, for instance, like,
would you rather say Kirk Cousins come on in on
the cheap? I'm talking like, you know, let's say the
Falcons dump him, Kirk, Falcons are paying your salary. We
don't want to really pay you anything. We want the
Russell Wilson deals, whatever the league minimum is you're playing
for that. Would you rather take Kirk Cousins on that
or Brock perty at sixty because that? How was that
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not in played for the Niners. Why don't we just
say no, thank you to sixty mil and we'll take
Kirk Cousins super cheap because the Falcon's gone.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, then you have to hope cross your fingers that
you can find a quarterback over the next I mean
they missed on Trey Lance. They also like Mac Jones,
didn't draft him, so they would have been zero for
two on the two guys they like. So now that
was the quarterback COVID class. So that was a wonky draft.
But I am not I always think I'm not anti Brock,
but he is much closer to Baker Mayfield as a
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pure talent than he is Josh Allen. So let's make
the pay somewhere around Baker. If you can't get there,
I have to consider drafting another quarterback. I mean, if
I'm San Francisco this year, I'm gonna take a Riley
Leonard in the third round and I'm just gonna see
how it looks, because I'm telling you that is all
you fanboys for Dak Prescott. You're a dead franchise. I mean,
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Dallas is dead. It would be different if last year
they went five for five of their first five picks,
and then you'd be like, oh, we found an edge rusher,
we found a number two receives. But you have to
start hitting on like about ninety percent of your picks.
It's tough once you pay. Even Kansas City, you miss
on one first round pick. That running back they picked
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from LSU was a miss edward. Okay, you just can't
miss on guys. You can't miss on sky Moore. The
Eagles are not missing, that's right, the Rams, the Lions
are not missing arguably three upwardly mobile teams that have
deep rostered.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Yeah, all right, let's go to the next story, and
that is the Bengals. Man, this is going to be
a chatty month your ahead for the Bengals, right, Jamar
Chase is looking to get paid. T Higgins wants to
get paid. Don't forget Trey Hendricks and their best defender. Well,
yesterday at the Combine, Director of Player Personnel Duke Tobin
discussed bringing back both of their stud receivers.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
Jamar is always going to be our priority. He's a
fantastic football player. He's gonna end up being the number
one paid non quarterback in the league. We're there, let's
get it done. I think T is a fantastic football
player and I want him on my football team.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Whenever I'm in.
Speaker 10 (27:04):
Charge of a football team, I want T Higgins and
so I'm going to do what I can to get
T Higgins. Our preference with T Higgins is to do
a long term agreement. Always has been, it continues to be,
and we'll work hard to get that done.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Now they're another organization that I like what I'm hearing,
but they have to hit on some draft picks. Now
they've missed on some old line picks. If they again,
if Cincinnati comes out and goes four to four with
their first four picks, then you can. I have no
problem taking big swings on contracts, but it does put
pressure on the scouting department and the scouting director and
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the GM to hit on picks.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
So a couple things. We have a list of the
highest paid non quarterback in the league, which is what
he said. Chase is going to get Collen there's some
really good players on here who didn't make a playoffs
last year. Ceedee Lamb is the second highest paid nine.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
You hit on something years ago. The wide receiver bubble Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Nick Botha did not make the plaoffs.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
A J.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Brown was instrumental. Christ Jones good, i'mara good, Tyreek Hill
missed how you got hurt? And it gets worse. T
Higgins saw these comments right where he's like, oh te Higgins,
wooll he uh. He just put a baseball cap, which
among the young people you know, you know, like, because
you say stand on business cap means you're lying. That's
not truthful. And he's calling out the Bengals like Derek.
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It's a shame Ryan Music's not back.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
One of the reasons I never wear caps because I'm
always telling the truth.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Honesty broker, right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Never see me in a cap.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
T Higgins, I'll put it. You want to predict it now.
I don't think he plays for the Bengals. I don't
know where he's gonna be. He's gonna have options. I
mean Patriots good if Patriots getting I.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Think New England feels like the fifth to me, New
England's the fifth probab.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
With Drake Main. Maybe they get Travis Hunter. All of
a sudden, you get t Higgins, Travis Hunter, Drake Bank
from there's something there. Final story, Colin is your guy?
Anthony Richardson?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh boy?
Speaker 10 (28:55):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Two seasons hasn't been great. A lot of injuries, a
lot of poor plays, a lot of bad missed screen passes.
At the Combine gim Chris Ballard talked about bringing in
a quarterback this offseason to create competition and serve as
insurance for Richardson's availability.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
It's got to be the right guy to create real competition.
But we want to create real competition. I think it's
good for the team. I think it's good for Anthony.
Like when we draft, we drafted Anthony high knowing it
was going to take some time, all right, and we
knew there's gonna be some hiccups along the way.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
You know.
Speaker 11 (29:29):
I know we all want to finish product right now.
I do you do, fans do we all do? But
I think as he continues to progress in his young career,
US adding competition I think will will help up everybody's game.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, he should have competition.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I didn't realize, No, no, no, it's it's a real it's
a t bow issue in that there's some athletic things
you like, you like the person, you like the kid,
you like the work ethic.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
But there you got to the line.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
The line in the league is you got to at
the sixty sixty one percent. If you're below that, then
you have to be so extraordinary as a runner, which
he is.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
But he also gets stinged up.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
You're telling me Trey Lance can't put up these kind
of craft numbers.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Come on, Well, I think Anthony is the He's a
better athlete than Trade certainly.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Yeah, but again that doesn't help him complete screen passes.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
There's a lot to like about him, but in the end,
in this league, he he Anthony Richardson is the opposite
of Shideur Sanders.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
He's got everything but the accuracy.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Chadure is missing a lot of big arm and big
but he's really accurate. So and the and the and
the truth is I am if you can complete. That's
why I've always said, with Kirk Cousins stable accurate, I
can win a lot of games. I can win a division.
It may not I may not win the best division,
but I can. There's always a couple of divisions that
you look at and you're like, like like C. J.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Stroud, he can he can win that division.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I don't think is going up again Burrow and and
and Lamar and winning a division. But I I think Anthony,
you gotta get the accuracy to sixty one.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
What if the Colts made to run at Russell Wilson?
Why they need to bring create competitions grown up? He's
a mature veteran. No, they're bringing in somebody out that.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Just that feels like you're bringing in a bunch of
stuff that will be headlines in media.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
And I don't want Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I don't think that a Cousins and Anthony are two
different players. The offense would look different from one to
the next. He would be Sam Darnald, Raiders or Colts.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Is the answer?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
If the Colts go Sam Donald, they're saying we're done
with Anthony Russ.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
And it's your I think they would compete for the division.
No question, Sam Donald to the Colt is the play?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Are you done? Sir seym mack with the news?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
The herd line thrown out there again?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Uh there the kids are saying this is it's the
greatest list ever compiled in the case television history. I said,
New York, LA, Chicago, three biggest American cities. Who are
the dynamic dozen, the biggest profiles, the biggest stars. Pushback,
I'm told I haven't watched it. Pushback on no Jalen Brunts,
and I'd probably put him at thirteen. I put Rick
Patino instead, who's been a rock star in coaching forever.
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Some of these players are past their prime, most aren't,
some aren't winning enough.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
But Caleb Williams is the reason that everybody thought the
Chicago Bears were one of the more fascinating teams in
the league last year. He was the only reason it
wasn't the coaching staff for the other players. So it's
Shohy Lebron Luca number three. Those are global stars, and
it's Harbaugh, Aaron Judge, Stafford McVay, Soto, Betts, Caleb Williams,
Justin Herbert, Rick Pattino. I thought Freddie Freeman at number
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thirteen for the Dodgers, number fourteen Bruns and maybe flip it,
Justin Herbert's quiet. But he is a quarterback in Los
Angeles in the National Football League. You're making the list
if you're a you know, a top young quarterback star.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
J Mack. I haven't gone to the inner today, nor
will I. I'm not sure Mark smart move.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
I just read an article if you delete the Internet
from your phone for two weeks, like your life improves dramatically.
Two weeks is a long time.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Well, you and I both when we go on vacation. Yeah,
stay off.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
It the best I can now. March Maddness is coming up,
by the way, three and one on college basketball picks
last night?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Who did you give me one of the ones you
picked last night?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I missed on Tennessee, but the others hit. It was
like a couple of money line parlay. Listen, man, it's
not that obscure. I'm going for bigger games now. Texas
tonight is a pick.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
The SEC is so deep they are they are? I mean,
the eighth team in the SEC. Is it better than
the second team in the Big Ten?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
I don't know about better than second, but better than
a lot of the Big Ten. College hoops is getting good,
but bottom line, I can't delete the Internet from my
phone till after March Madness. You know that's that's a
big month for gambling, even for you, right.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I follow your Creighton and Xavier picks every day. See
you tomorrow, Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, it's the combine.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's been happening for a long time, but it has
grown in stature and relevance, and Albert Brera is now
joining us live. We've got news breaking as we speak.
Let's start with the San Francisco forty nine ers. A
little brock pretty news percolating.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
What say you? What's happening there?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Albert, Well, I think they're going to try to get
something done, and really the question I think is the timeline.
There's no doubt and there hasn't been any doubt that
they want to go forward with Brock Party as their quarterback.
But the market has materially changed, you know, really over
the last few years. Now you've got nine quarterbacks making
over fifty million dollars per year. The Niners obviously have
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a lot of mouths to feed with their roster being
what it is, and you know, guys like Nick Bosa
and Fred Warner and Trent Williams and Brandon Ayyuk at
the top of the market at their position. So how
does all this come together? And I think the other
thing you got to look at here, Colin is the
team's history and the way the team has handled these
things over the last few years, you know. And I
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thought back to, you know, the Jimmy Garoppolo negotiation, which
was done at the end of January. Believe it or not,
they got that one done almost immediately after, you know,
the first season the two sides had together, the first
half season they had together, you know, and since then
the negotiations they've had with their own players has been
a lot more difficult.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Deebo, Samuel, Nick.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Bosa, Brandon Ayuk, all those went all the way through
training camp, and so that I think is the biggest question.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I have confidence they'll get something done with with Brock Purdy.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I think the question is on one that on what
the timing looks like and is this something that gets
you know, tied up in the spring or are we
talking about, you know this when we get.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Deep into training game. I think that's the part that's
uncertain about it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Okay, I said, the Sam Donald's story confused me. There's
I think it could be Sam Donald's agent putting it
out there to create a market that the Niners or
the Vikings are still kind of interested in negotiating. And
I'm like, okay, then why did you give away picks
for JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Is it an injury thing?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It feels like somebody's trying to elevate the Sam Donald
market because now Aaron Rodgers is out there. What do
you make of the stories the Vikings are considering options
to do the Sam Donald contract and it not be
a franchise tag.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I think that the number, the mump sum number for
the franchise tag being over forty million dollars a year
complicates it. Most teams don't want to pay that all
at once.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Obviously it's not the ideal scenario for Sam either, although
I do think he really enjoyed playing in Minnesota and
got a lot out of playing for Kevin O'Connell, So
you know, I think the most likely scenario in this
case remains Sam goes to the market, and then they
see what Sam's market is and and they make a
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decision there accordingly, I think they'd like to have Sam back,
and I think they'd like to but I think they
but I think there's a limit to how far they're
willing to go with Sam.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So why not just go with JJ McCarthy, Like, is
are there reservations about JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Well, he's coming off the two knee surgeries and the
last one was just a clean up, So I think
that that's, you know, part of the part of the
equation here. I think coming back, like your question is
going to be is he going to be in a
position to hit the ground running when you get to
OTA's And is he gonna be in a position where
you're gonna be able to say to your team, we're
giving you the best chance to win at the most
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important position on the field.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
And they have confidence in JJ, and JJ did a
lot of things right.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
JJ pushed Sam last year like in a way they
didn't expect, Like it was a real, you know, discussion
point there in August before JJ got hurt, Like, you know,
is is there a scenario where JJ plays significant snaps? Now,
obviously the injury happens, and that changes a lot of things.
I think what you'd be looking at now is you know,
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where is JJ's weight at, Where does he how does
he look physically coming off the injury? Because these things
can take a toll on you, and so I think
those are the sorts of things that the Vikings are
watching right now when it comes to determining the management
of the quarterback position. And I think they're at least
going to backstop themselves. Now, does that mean Sam Darnold
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at twenty five or thirty million dollars a year?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
It could? Does that mean Daniel Jones at a lower number?
It could.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I don't think it's just going to be JJ and
some run of the mill back up. But I do
think they've got confidence that JJ can be a really
good quarterback for them in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Okay, let's get to the Stafford thing.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
My take is the Raiders news that Tom Brady called Matt'
average interesting And here's why, Pete Carroll say it out loud.
Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly, Max Crosby a left tackle that's redeemable,
even their center they on last year from Oregon.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I've got brought Bowers, who.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Is a transcendent weapon, and I'm looking at that and
I'm thinking, Okay, it's indoors. They'd give him more years
and more money than the RAMS would. That one felt
to me like I could seem I mean, think about this,
and I know this is I don't want to be
an accountant. Thirteen and a half percent taxes. RAMS will
give you two years, no state taxes. Raiders give you four.
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That could be a sixty seventy million dollars swing. Albert like,
I would listen to that if I was Matt Stafford,
would you.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I think it makes some sense for the Raiders in
that I think so much of what Tom Brady is
doing and trying to establish there is to add credibility
to the organization. Pete Carroll obviously is a very credible
head coach, higher John spot Tech is well respected across
the NFL coming in as his GM, And I think
a big part of this for Tom and working with
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Mark Davis is sort of reimagining who the Raiders are
and changing the way that they're perceived across the landscape
of all of sports, and so part of that is
bringing in the big money guys, having his own partner,
Tom Wagner part of the equation. Egan Durbin, you know
who's you know, the CEO of Silver like capital, Like
you've got resources, which is part of how you pay
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say six million dollars.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
A year to go and get Chip Kelly.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
And adding Matthew Stafford at quarterback I think would make
some sense from that standpoint in that you're gonna be able.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
To get competitive quicker.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
The bigger question I think if you're weighing the idea
of bringing in to Stafford versus maybe going and making
a run at Sam Darnold, is okay, like where does
this leave us in twenty twenty six? Where does this
leave us in twenty twenty seven? And if part of
the issue for Stafford with the Rams is well we
don't know where you're going to be a year from now,
two years from now, essensibly you probably have the same
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problem if you are the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
So I love the idea of it.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I do think it'll allow you to attract free agents,
and they've got a lot of resources there now to
attract free agents, and I think this is going to
be It can be a destination if you set it up.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
The right way and you have a quarterback to attract
people in.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I think the one question if you are going to
go and acquire Matthew Stafford, if you're the Raiders, has
to be what does this look like two or three
years from now?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
And are we close enough where we want to go
and take a win now sort of swing and give
up assets to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, so this is interesting, a little wonky, But the
NFLPA report card came out where the players tell you
what they think of their organization. I saw the Steelers
on the list of places players were not happy, and
that was the one that jumped out to me. I've
always thought Tomlin was a pro player organization.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That one jumped out to me.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Any surprises for you on the NFLPA report card about
teams players and how they feel about the franchise.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well, I think one thing that's definitely notable is has
gotten better. Like it seems like what they're doing is working,
you know. They They showed us a whole bunch of
different statistics and metrics that show that there are far fewer.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Failing grades for teams that players are handing out, and.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I think a big part of that is that a
lot of these guys were embarrassed by some of the
stuff that was out there on their teams, and so
I do think to some degree some of that stuff's
been fixed. It's interesting because I think the Pittsburgh thing
relates back to one thing that I think has got
to be a factor in all of these situations, and
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that's your team facility. I believe the Chargers jumped from
thirtieth to fifth colin and I know this. The Spanoses
have done a lot of, you know, good things over
the last year, and Jim Harbaugh makes a difference. But
how much that's just the building, you know, the facilit
and Miami and Minnesota one and two with two.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Of the newest facilities in the league.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I think part of Pittsburgh's problem is there in an
older facility that's attached to the pitt facility, the University
of Pittsburgh football facility. You share a bunch of stuff
with the University of Pittsburgh. It's just not this like
megaplex that you have in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Or you have in Dallas, you have in Miami, you
have now at the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You know, I think so much of that survey, a
lot of it is based on what your.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Physical building looks like. Ok.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
And Pittsburgh's isn't great Pittsburgh scored high in some other areas,
So I think that's one thing that definitely sticks out
every year is that like is tied to the facility.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
The other thing that I think is interesting is most
players are pretty happy with their head coaches. I believe.
I think someone got a B plus.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I was reading one of the blurbs someone got a
B plus and they were ranked like twenty fourth among
head coaches. So I mean, if you're giving your coach
a B plus and he's twenty fourth to thirty two,
and then you got all these players giving their owners
c's and d's and f's, you know, it tells you
that I think most the head coaches are connecting with
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their players, So that's a good thing too. New England
being at the bottom of the list was sort of interesting,
I think as well, when you sort of look at
this and say, okay, like how much does this have
to do with winning and losing and when you lose
the lust or being what they were for twenty years.
To see them thirty first overall, and then to see
the owner in the bottom five of the three categories
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that players were ranking them in, I think that was pretty.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
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Speaker 1 (10:39):
Shador Sanders is dropping in the draft. I said this yesterday.
My favorite quality of his, you know, draft status is
that he had a terrible run game, the worst in
Power five for two years, and the worst offensive line
for two years in college football, so he's had to
initiate offense. He'll probably go to a team without a
great offense intive line. There's a reason why so many
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quarterbacks in the NFL go to Wyoming, Texas Tech, Miami
of Ohio cal is that it's a real college experience.
It's a real pro experience that you're running for your
life with no run support. I think that makes Shador
more attractive. Why is he falling in the draft? It
does feel like there's a gradual regression.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
For well, first of all, I would agree with you
on that, Like I think if you're in Ohio State
or Alabama, and like, how often are you going past.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Your first progress out of your first progression?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Right?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Like how often are you going to number two? How
often are you going to number three?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
How often do you have to move in the pocket
to make things work to cover up an issue your
offensive line might have. I think all that stuff is
one hundred percent valid, and we've seen that with some
of the quarterbacks who've come out of the powerhouse schools,
where they've struggled because they haven't had to find those
answers that deep into an individual play, or they.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Haven't had to be as creative in making things happen.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I think the issue is Shador and this is going
to be a difficult thing for him to address over
the next six or seven months or six or seven weeks.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Is are you special in any one area?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Do you have a superpower trade or are you an
average athlete with an average arm in an NFL context?
Speaker 5 (12:13):
And I think that that's the way a lot of
teams look at him.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
He's not a great athlete, he doesn't have a big arm,
So like, where is the superpower that's gonna make you
want to take him in the top five?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
And I think he attached that, then to what the
teams in the AFC are looking up at.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
And that's sort of this mount Olympus of quarterbacks, right,
So if you're Tennessee picking first or Cleveland picking second,
I'll borrow a term that that Daniel Jeremiah used with
me a few days ago. It's almost like you have
to chase ceiling, you know, because it's not can this
guy be a good players? Can this guy be good
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enough to compete with Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson
and Joe Burrow in the AFC And oh, by the way,
when you get by those guys, you've still got more
eyes with a lot of upside in CJ. Stroud and
Trevor Lawrence and bow Nicks and Drake Mas a gauntlet,
you know. So like, are if you draft shaduor Sanders
in the top five or top ten picks, could he
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get up and running pretty fast?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I think he probably could.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, five years from now, are you going to be
comfortable giving him fifty five sixty sixty five million dollars
a year?
Speaker 5 (13:22):
I think that's the question.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I've always argued that what you don't want to be
in the NFL is it chaos at quarterback. I think
Shador Sanders is a little bit like Jared Goff. If
he has a good coach, he stabilizes you that he
completes passes, he moves the chains. He's not going to
get in trouble. He is very accurate. He stabilizes a
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tire fire of an organization, and there's about seven of
those a year in the league. He's not going to
change the ascension, but you won't have to worry about
quarterback for five years. Like he's a grown up that
completes passes. And that's what Jared Goff. He's out of
the news, moves the chains. I don't like him in
a cold weather. I don't like him against a great player.
But there is something to be said, like the Raiders
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need stabilization, the.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Browns need I mean the Bears need it.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Sometimes in this league, it's not what you can do,
it's what you won't do, which is get us in trouble.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And that again though, like it's just are you going
to be able to level up.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
And compete in the highest level?
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
And I agree like that he could come in and
stabilize that position for a team. You know, is he
going to get to a second contract or are you
going to be left in year three or year four
wanting for more and saying to yourself like is this it?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
You know? Is this all we're gonna get? It's sort
of the Mac Jones thing, right, Mac Jones was great
as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
They were able to get him out there and get
him up and running and playing at a pretty high
level pretty fast, and then it was sort of like
that was it with him, you know. And so that's
the biggest question with Shador, you know. And that's why
I think some teams view Shadoor as closer to to
Jackson Dart than maybe he is to cam Ward. I
think with cam Ward it's that's the chase the ceiling guy,
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Like that's the guy where it's not consistent enough, but
it's gotten a little bit more consistent over the last
couple of years, and you see the flashes of the
greatness with him, and maybe you look at him and
you say, okay, like I can envision, I can envision
where he's going to get there, and he's going to
be able to help us chase guys like Josh Allen
and Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson, you know,
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versus he's always going to be like we're always gonna
be the six or seven seam, We're always going to
be not quite good enough.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I think that's the concern with Shador.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Albert Breer at some swanky hotel in Indianapolis at the
NFL Combine, hopefully Monday morning quarterbacks, picking up the bill
on that looks very nice, nice brown molding there, very expensively, very.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Nice in here.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, absolutely, I h I wish my earpiece was was
working the way A lot of this stuff here in
the hotel is good.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Seeing him, my man, Albert Breery, all right, thanks guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I always think, because I have told you before, if
I didn't do this, I'd want to be an NFL
general manager, which is unrealistic. But if I if I
put thirty years into it like I did broadcasting, That's
what I'd want to do. I always think in the NFL,
at quarterback, you just don't want to be a disaster.
So if I can, like I always said, Kirk Cousins,
you bring Kirk Cousins into your organization. Is the ceiling
ye low?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, but the floor is so high like Shadur is
high floor, lower ceiling. He's grown up.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
He'll come in. He is very accurate, he'll move the chains.
He's not gonna he's not gonna initiate great offense, but
he's proven in college. No run game, battle line. He's
proven he'll stay healthy, he'll stay up right. He completed
seventy four percent of his throws. I think in the
last couple of years with no run game, they had
to throw. So it's like a lot of times, just
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just bring an adult in the room, stabilize my organization.
I don't want drama. I'm gonna have some drama wide receiver.
I may have some drama from my owner if I'm
a coach or a GM. I just don't want drama
at quarterback. I'll take Kirk Cousins. Stabilize it. I can
worry about other stuff for a couple of years. I'll
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draft the Michael Pennix behind him. But I know I'm
not gonna have That's why I always banged on Baker Mayfield. Baker,
you want to put the fires out, not start him
as a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
So two quick things. Number one is Aaron Rodgers does
he fall into that drama bucket Colin, because last hour
I think you were saying, Hey, Aaron Rodgers the Rams
or Aaron Rodgers of the reader, isn't he drama at quarterback?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
If I need him? But the Rams have so little drama.
I could bring him in for a year.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's like, by the way, when the Patriots brought in
Randy Moss, like we're structurally so sound, We're gonna bring
Randy in for a couple of years, and by the way,
Randy fit in and by year three he's a little noisy.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Okay, then it moves on.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Point is Jalen Hurts when he was drafted by the Eagles.
I know he went second round. Do you think anybody said, Oh,
the ceiling's just not high enough for Jalen Hurts. Meanwhile,
he's been fricking awesome right since he's been a starter
in this league. So I still believe that the NFL
does not know how to actively scout quarterbacks. They just
don't get it.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
If the Jets got him at number seven, so let's
look at the draft do.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
No way.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I'm just saying, if you look at the teams, if
if he got to seven, what are the Jets need
more than anything? Stability? Shador Sanders is great for the Jets.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, but he would have to fall to seven. Well,
let's see, need a quarterback. Brown Sea a quarterback, Giants
need a quarterback, Raiders need a quarterback. Like, come on, no,
some of those might take care of themselves in free agency.
But I'm almost willing to do one of these dinner
wager bets with you that Shador Sanders goes time.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Why don't you do a mock draft tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Talk to one this week? Well Box just hit me
up and was like.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
We need well Collins hitting you up. Why don't you
do one tomorrow? Okay, I to listen to this story.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We do j Schultz, we do Fresh for herd line.
Yere is it about this thing I'm looking at Jordan Schultz?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Is it a quarterback? Okay, No, it's something different. Okay,
go go go.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Tom Brady hosted Matt Stafford at his home in Montana.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
They went skiing.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Brady has been actively trying to convince Stafford to join
the Raiders. Several teams are interested in Stafford if the
Rams decide to move him. The Rams, i'm told, do
not want to move him. They just don't want to
give him three and four years. So can you imagine
skiing and you're getting on the chair lift and here's
Brady and Stafford flying down the hill, and you're Sean
McVay spying on him, and you got the goggles on
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You're like, what do you guys doing today?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
What are you guys talking about here? They probably know it.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
You got to pay Stafford. You cannot lose him. All
the momentum they've had the last few years with Stafford.
You gotta keep him. Why are they being so cheap
with him?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Time out? They're paying him twenty seven million a years.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Twenty seven mil for a top seven quarterback in the league.
What are you Dak Prescott's cant sixty.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
That's a bad contract.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Okay, fine, don't give me sixty, give me fifty. Maybe,
like I deserve to be paid.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh boy, it's not like.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You're going to a contract negotiation. That's what it sounds like.
Kind of pivoting and shows I'm not the only one
on the set. Okay, yeah, I've never that heard line
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Speaker 1 (21:31):
By the way, that nfl PA report card, there's a
certain organization that got very low grades that.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
We've been banging on for a.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
About six months that a certain star quarterback plays for
and is not very happy.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I'll let you chase that down. Let's go to Jmack
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Speaker 6 (21:54):
Fun breaking ish news from the Combine. The forty nine
ers just announced they are working on a long term
extension for Rock Party. John Lynch just spoke about it
at the Combine. Colin, here's what they had to say
about Rock Purty in his contract.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
We have started negotiations.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
We're talking.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
I won't go into negotiations like always is our stance.
Want brought to be our quarterback as long as we're
here and beyond, and we'll leave it at that. I
think the final thing, there's no guarantees that we get
something done, but my experience has been when both sides
are motivated, there's ample opportunity to do so.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
No sounds like he's wavering.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
So some of the reports trickling out out of San Francisco,
Colin are that Party is gonna get Dak Prescott money,
but it's gonna be structured in a way that it's
not gonna hamstring the organization. I have a feeling this
is gonna be an eye popping number when it comes
out and you're gonna probably do two days lasting party
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and the.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Organ I'm not gonna blast party for getting money. It's
gonna be an organizational I don't blame Dak forgetting the money.
He's not a sixty million dollar quarterback. I don't care
what the market is. When it drizzles, he's not the
same guy and it's overcast. Well, I mean he's got
I've seen him in rainy situations. I mean, I I
don't think it's that hard. I've been pretty good on
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the quarterback stuff. I mean, darnold, I proved that he
was actually good. I think it's a I think there
are I will ask you this, and I'm talking traits.
What's his A plus trade and don't give me winning.
What is his A plus trade?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Size? Arm, movement, athletic ability, Well, what's the trait?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
I would say his ability to read the quickly read
the defense and identify and make the right throw. I mean,
he's a pretty cerebral quarterback back in the pot.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
And he's a very smart you know, he's a very
smart smart guy.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, I think that's right, and I hope that's worth
sixty large because I'd like to see some physical trait
that I can't duplicate.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
So I know you have Purty as a top ten
quarterback in the league. No, I don't, Oh you don't, Okay,
top fifteen?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Does he drop further or should he get sixty mil?
Because I think the contract does matter for some of
these guys. He was awesome on the chief.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
How's Dak looked now that he hogs up? You know,
twenty percent of the salary cap? How's Dallas look and
not great? Yeah, you have to basically hit on every
draft pick, which, by the way, Dallas has it. So
Philadelphia pays everybody, but they've hit on like six straight
defensive draft picks.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
The Rams. When you hit on draftic after draft pick
after I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
The Rams literally paid nobody on defense, so you can
they can afford to pay staffer.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
But but I mean Dallas last year. I look at
that draft. Yikes, did anybody hit on that draft? Zach
Martin just retired.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Yeah, it's not looking great. But you know, for instance, like,
would you rather say Kirk Cousins come on in on
the cheap? I'm talking like, you know, let's say the
Falcons dump him, Kirk, Falcons are paying your salary. We
don't want to really pay you anything. We want the
Russell Wilson deals, whatever the league minimum is you're playing
for that. Would you rather take Kirk Cousins on that
or Brock perty at sixty because that? How was that
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not in played for the Niners. Why don't we just
say no, thank you to sixty mil and we'll take
Kirk Cousins super cheap because the Falcon's gone.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, then you have to hope cross your fingers that
you can find a quarterback over the next I mean
they missed on Trey Lance. They also like Mac Jones,
didn't draft him, so they would have been zero for
two on the two guys they like. So now that
was the quarterback COVID class. So that was a wonky draft.
But I am not I always think I'm not anti Brock,
but he is much closer to Baker Mayfield as a
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pure talent than he is Josh Allen. So let's make
the pay somewhere around Baker. If you can't get there,
I have to consider drafting another quarterback. I mean, if
I'm San Francisco this year, I'm gonna take a Riley
Leonard in the third round and I'm just gonna see
how it looks, because I'm telling you that is all
you fanboys for Dak Prescott. You're a dead franchise. I mean,
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Dallas is dead. It would be different if last year
they went five for five of their first five picks,
and then you'd be like, oh, we found an edge rusher,
we found a number two receives. But you have to
start hitting on like about ninety percent of your picks.
It's tough once you pay. Even Kansas City, you miss
on one first round pick. That running back they picked
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from LSU was a miss edward. Okay, you just can't
miss on guys. You can't miss on sky Moore. The
Eagles are not missing, that's right, the Rams, the Lions
are not missing arguably three upwardly mobile teams that have
deep rostered.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Yeah, all right, let's go to the next story, and
that is the Bengals. Man, this is going to be
a chatty month your ahead for the Bengals, right, Jamar
Chase is looking to get paid. T Higgins wants to
get paid. Don't forget Trey Hendricks and their best defender. Well,
yesterday at the Combine, Director of Player Personnel Duke Tobin
discussed bringing back both of their stud receivers.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
Jamar is always going to be our priority. He's a
fantastic football player. He's gonna end up being the number
one paid non quarterback in the league. We're there, let's
get it done. I think T is a fantastic football
player and I want him on my football team.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Whenever I'm in.
Speaker 10 (27:04):
Charge of a football team, I want T Higgins and
so I'm going to do what I can to get
T Higgins. Our preference with T Higgins is to do
a long term agreement. Always has been, it continues to be,
and we'll work hard to get that done.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Now they're another organization that I like what I'm hearing,
but they have to hit on some draft picks. Now
they've missed on some old line picks. If they again,
if Cincinnati comes out and goes four to four with
their first four picks, then you can. I have no
problem taking big swings on contracts, but it does put
pressure on the scouting department and the scouting director and
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the GM to hit on picks.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
So a couple things. We have a list of the
highest paid non quarterback in the league, which is what
he said. Chase is going to get Collen there's some
really good players on here who didn't make a playoffs
last year. Ceedee Lamb is the second highest paid nine.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
You hit on something years ago. The wide receiver bubble Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Nick Botha did not make the plaoffs.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
A J.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Brown was instrumental. Christ Jones good, i'mara good, Tyreek Hill
missed how you got hurt? And it gets worse. T
Higgins saw these comments right where he's like, oh te Higgins,
wooll he uh. He just put a baseball cap, which
among the young people you know, you know, like, because
you say stand on business cap means you're lying. That's
not truthful. And he's calling out the Bengals like Derek.
(28:23):
It's a shame Ryan Music's not back.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
One of the reasons I never wear caps because I'm
always telling the truth.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Honesty broker, right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Never see me in a cap.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
T Higgins, I'll put it. You want to predict it now.
I don't think he plays for the Bengals. I don't
know where he's gonna be. He's gonna have options. I
mean Patriots good if Patriots getting I.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Think New England feels like the fifth to me, New
England's the fifth probab.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
With Drake Main. Maybe they get Travis Hunter. All of
a sudden, you get t Higgins, Travis Hunter, Drake Bank
from there's something there. Final story, Colin is your guy?
Anthony Richardson?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh boy?
Speaker 10 (28:55):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Two seasons hasn't been great. A lot of injuries, a
lot of poor plays, a lot of bad missed screen passes.
At the Combine gim Chris Ballard talked about bringing in
a quarterback this offseason to create competition and serve as
insurance for Richardson's availability.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
It's got to be the right guy to create real competition.
But we want to create real competition. I think it's
good for the team. I think it's good for Anthony.
Like when we draft, we drafted Anthony high knowing it
was going to take some time, all right, and we
knew there's gonna be some hiccups along the way.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
You know.
Speaker 11 (29:29):
I know we all want to finish product right now.
I do you do, fans do we all do? But
I think as he continues to progress in his young career,
US adding competition I think will will help up everybody's game.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, he should have competition.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I didn't realize, No, no, no, it's it's a real it's
a t bow issue in that there's some athletic things
you like, you like the person, you like the kid,
you like the work ethic.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
But there you got to the line.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
The line in the league is you got to at
the sixty sixty one percent. If you're below that, then
you have to be so extraordinary as a runner, which
he is.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
But he also gets stinged up.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
You're telling me Trey Lance can't put up these kind
of craft numbers.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Come on, Well, I think Anthony is the He's a
better athlete than Trade certainly.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Yeah, but again that doesn't help him complete screen passes.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
There's a lot to like about him, but in the end,
in this league, he he Anthony Richardson is the opposite
of Shideur Sanders.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
He's got everything but the accuracy.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Chadure is missing a lot of big arm and big
but he's really accurate. So and the and the and
the truth is I am if you can complete. That's
why I've always said, with Kirk Cousins stable accurate, I
can win a lot of games. I can win a division.
It may not I may not win the best division,
but I can. There's always a couple of divisions that
you look at and you're like, like like C. J.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Stroud, he can he can win that division.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I don't think is going up again Burrow and and
and Lamar and winning a division. But I I think Anthony,
you gotta get the accuracy to sixty one.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
What if the Colts made to run at Russell Wilson?
Why they need to bring create competitions grown up? He's
a mature veteran. No, they're bringing in somebody out that.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Just that feels like you're bringing in a bunch of
stuff that will be headlines in media.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
And I don't want Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I don't think that a Cousins and Anthony are two
different players. The offense would look different from one to
the next. He would be Sam Darnald, Raiders or Colts.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Is the answer?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
If the Colts go Sam Donald, they're saying we're done
with Anthony Russ.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
And it's your I think they would compete for the division.
No question, Sam Donald to the Colt is the play?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Are you done? Sir seym mack with the news?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
The herd line thrown out there again?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Uh there the kids are saying this is it's the
greatest list ever compiled in the case television history. I said,
New York, LA, Chicago, three biggest American cities. Who are
the dynamic dozen, the biggest profiles, the biggest stars. Pushback,
I'm told I haven't watched it. Pushback on no Jalen Brunts,
and I'd probably put him at thirteen. I put Rick
Patino instead, who's been a rock star in coaching forever.
(32:16):
Some of these players are past their prime, most aren't,
some aren't winning enough.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
But Caleb Williams is the reason that everybody thought the
Chicago Bears were one of the more fascinating teams in
the league last year. He was the only reason it
wasn't the coaching staff for the other players. So it's
Shohy Lebron Luca number three. Those are global stars, and
it's Harbaugh, Aaron Judge, Stafford McVay, Soto, Betts, Caleb Williams,
Justin Herbert, Rick Pattino. I thought Freddie Freeman at number
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thirteen for the Dodgers, number fourteen Bruns and maybe flip it,
Justin Herbert's quiet. But he is a quarterback in Los
Angeles in the National Football League. You're making the list
if you're a you know, a top young quarterback star.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
J Mack. I haven't gone to the inner today, nor
will I. I'm not sure Mark smart move.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
I just read an article if you delete the Internet
from your phone for two weeks, like your life improves dramatically.
Two weeks is a long time.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Well, you and I both when we go on vacation. Yeah,
stay off.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
It the best I can now. March Maddness is coming up,
by the way, three and one on college basketball picks
last night?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Who did you give me one of the ones you
picked last night?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I missed on Tennessee, but the others hit. It was
like a couple of money line parlay. Listen, man, it's
not that obscure. I'm going for bigger games now. Texas
tonight is a pick.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
The SEC is so deep they are they are? I mean,
the eighth team in the SEC. Is it better than
the second team in the Big Ten?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
I don't know about better than second, but better than
a lot of the Big Ten. College hoops is getting good,
but bottom line, I can't delete the Internet from my
phone till after March Madness. You know that's that's a
big month for gambling, even for you, right.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
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