March 4, 2025 • 32 mins
Colin discusses Saquon Barkley's new deal with the Eagles, the possibility of RBs starting to make more money, the NFL draft, and more
Guest: Peter Schrager
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to
catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in
noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find
your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio
dot com, or stream us live every day on the
iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay, this is interesting. So I believe Howie Roseman of
the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Is very smart.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's being reported the Eagles are giving Saquon Barkley two
years and forty one million dollars. That is a lot
for a running back and a contract extension. He's earned it.
I love him, classy great. Okay, So I'm gonna go
to Schreger, Peter Schreger joining me.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I got a question.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So how We Roseman said a week ago, We're gonna
make some moves here. It's gonna be a little unconventional.
What he was basically saying, Shregs, is we're gonna have
to get rid of some guys you really really like.
So he is signing Barkley first, which is gonna get
great press, and everybody's gonna love him because he's gonna
have to let go of either like the linebacker A. J.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Brown.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
My guess is they were gonna do this anyway, but
they've done this early to get some good momentum because
they're gonna have to make.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Some tough cuts here eventually, am I nuts.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Well, they're gonna they're roster it so happens sanny super
Bowl champion that has all that talent on it, that
had those high sucks. So like Darius Slay was already cut,
James Bradberry was already cut. I think Milton Williams is
gonna sign else where. I think Zach Bond's likely gonna
sign elsewhere. I think I think Josh Sweat's gonna sign us.
So like they're gonna get the life sucked out of them.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
But Saquan is the most important piece.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And if you're an Eagles fan, you're like, all right,
we got Jalen Hurts, Saquon and we got DeVante Smith
and that offensive line.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
No. I think it's interesting because you mentioned Zach Bonn
and that's the one the fans in Philly because he's
such a work class, tough kid.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's a hard guy to move off.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You get crushed on WIP Radio for forty eight hours. Yeah,
so I think they get I mean, if you signed Barkley,
I think he gives so much good will.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Now I want to talk about this because you would
know this, listen.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Matt had a couple of years on his contract Stafford,
and unlike the Niners who have occasionally caved a little
to players, the Rams.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Are tough negotiators.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I mean they moved off Jalen Ramsey, Bill, move off
Cooper Cup. How close did we get here to Stafford
not being a Ram shregs?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It was a lot closer than people as like, you know,
at the end of it, everyone says, oh, well.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Of course he wasn't going anywhere. It wasn't the case.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
This was a really up and down week and it
was the one that tested the relationship. But to Sean
mcvay's great credit, he was completely transparent with Stafford and
gave Jimmy Sexton, a really powerful agent from CIA who
also represents guys like Bill Parcells and Nick Saban, and
he's got a client in Matthew Savag gave him the ability.
They said, why don't you go on your own and
(03:02):
go test the market and see what he can get
on the open market as if he was a free agent.
And it turned out there were multiple teams willing to
pay Matthew Stafford more than fifty million dollars and that
is way more than what the Rams are willing.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
To pay him.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
And then it was a discussion of okay, we can
trade you to one of those teams, whether it be
the Raiders or it be the Giants. Do you really
want this or will you take less and come back
here and not move your family and not go to
a team that hasn't made the playoffs in the years
and not get to know an entire new strength and
conditioning and coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
And what it all came to be.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Stafford and McVeigh met at six thirty am Pacific time,
Friday morning.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
All cards were on the table.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It was completely transparent, and it wasn't like they had
some you know, blowout the week earlier and it went
through aid. It was all like this, and it was like,
you know what, I will take less money than I
can make on the open market, and i will return
to the Rams because I know what I'm getting and
I've got four little girls and a wife who loves
living a lost Angels and I like working with you, so.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
They ran it back. But don't get it twisted.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Anyone who tells you that there was not actual trade
talks with the Rams and the Giants is wrong. And
Rams and the Raiders was wrong their parameters being set.
At the end of the day, Stafford didn't want to leave,
and he's taking less money to play for the Rams.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Okay, So we as a staff the last two days,
we just can't quite figure out Sam Darnold. So I
love him, I said, Josh Allen had two stinkers last
year and Mahomes had several, and they had a better
roster than Donald. And I think Kevin O'Connell looks at
it and thinks, Okay, it didn't end well. But the
Rams were better than us, and the Lions were playing
one of the biggest games in ten years in Detroit.
(04:35):
We got overwhelmed. It happened to Josh Allen who went
nine for thirty against Houston. It happened to Mahomes against
the Raiders. It happens in this league. It was certainly
capable for Sam Donald against better teams on the road
to get beat, but they have JJ McCarthy and so
when I hear you know they're working on a new
deal with Donald.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Could you explain what's going on in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Well, I don't.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I don't think we can harp on what you're saying enough.
I don't know if a single player has cost himself
more money than what Sam Donald cost himself in the
matter of eight days that Week eighteen game against the Lions,
playing for home field advantage, playing for Annecy and playing
the way he did, and then eight days later against
the Rams that was scary for a lot of teams,
saying I can't give Sam Donald fifty million dollars if
(05:21):
those two games exist on film.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
When it matters most.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
He reverted back to all the bad Sam Donald games
that he's had instead of the great ones that he
had for seventeen weeks. That's unfair to him, right, we
think that's unfair to him. That's the truth of the matter.
I don't have a market for Sam Donald. That is
that is team's lining up outside the door to go
sign them. Meanwhile, I think if we were going into
Week eighteen there were those teams, I would think that
(05:44):
many of these teams, Cleveland, Tennessee, the Giants, they would
all be interested in talking.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
But those two weeks he.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Reverted back to a version or at least showed a
version of himself that scared off a lot of these teams.
Now we're talking about taking ten million dollars off the table,
twenty million dollars off the table from what he might
have been had he finished and had this miracle.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Super Bowl run.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So you look at the Vikings, they don't know what
JJ McCarthy they're getting. He was hurt all last year.
They like him, they drafted him top ten. If Sam
Donald is willing to come back on a two year deal,
say they pay him thirty million the next two years,
gets a two year, sixty million dollars deal with an
out maybe after the first I think the Vikings would
be very open to that. Sam Donald goes and crushes
(06:25):
it once again, McCarthy's there. Maybe if McCarthy like his
lights out during training camp, they could still trade Donald
to a team. I think that is the most likely
outcome for Sam Donald this free agency ride. He comes
back to Minnesota not on a franchise tag deal where
they're paying him fifty million, but that they pay him
something more like what Baker Mayfield made last year with
(06:45):
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and when he got his deal
and said, hey, why don't we bring you back on
something like around thirty thirty five and you prove it
again and then you cash out big after that. It's
not ideal for Sam Donald. It is ideal for the
Vikings because they don't know what they have in jay
Ja McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
We know shregs.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
You know this that quarterbacks can be elevated the better
the coach. I mean, Matt Stafford was always great. Now
he's a star, right Herbert with Harbaugh, all his numbers,
you know, went up Shane steik And as a rookie
as his coordinat coaching matters for quarterbacks, especially younger quarterbacks,
but older quarterbacks too.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So I defended Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I said, after Soli got fired, this was not a
great coaching staff. Aaron's last ten games, he's pretty good.
Wasn't great, but he's pretty good. There is a market.
Let's not be ridiculous. I think the pendulum has swung
so far on Aaron. People are like, yeah, he can't play.
I watched the last ten games. He moved a little
(07:46):
better when he got Davonte in. I don't know I'm
Pete Carroll, Chip, Kelly brock Bauers, I got a center
in the draft. I have Colton Miller. I'm the Raiders.
Bring him back West. It seems it's not a great market,
like Aaron Rodgers Raiders.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Is there something there?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, there's something there.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I also think Aaron Rodgers Giants is a real possibility.
You've heard that, And the truth of the matter is
you're right. If you look at the stats and the film.
He played well over the second half of the season,
and oh yeah, he was coming off the achilles the
first half of this season. Twenty eight touchdowns, I believe,
eleven interceptions on a team that had a lot of
issues with coaching but also their offensive line. Look, there's
(08:30):
no teams that are banging down the door for Aaron
Rodgers right now, and you're gonna look to pay him
big money. But you could convince yourself, if you're either
the Giants or the Raiders, that if we can't get
one of the top prospects in the draft, or the
top prospect in the draft, which is cam Ward, there's
a lot worse off that we could do than bring
in Rogers. Here is the rub with Rogers. The media
might not like him. The national mainstream media might not
(08:54):
like him. He might not go with some of them.
He speaks his mind, which is uncomfortable for some owners.
Players love him, teammates love him. He is he that
Jets locker room. They would ride or die for Aaron Rodgers.
They loved Aaron Rodgers those young players, and he was
he was a great teammate to them. So it's this
(09:14):
rub like do I care if Jimmy Kimball doesn't like
Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Or do I care that Garrett that you know the
young players on the team.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Love Aaron Rodgers. Like, where are we at with this thing?
I think the Giants Brian Dables under the gun? Brian
Dables been questioned, Aaron Rodgers under the gun. Aaron Rodgers
been questioned like, do you would you ride with Aaron
Rodgers of the Giant chip on his shoulder for a
budget contract?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I think you would?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And if you're the Raiders, does anyone no quarterback play
better than Tom Brady and Chip Kelly? Like if they
like him and he's always been a good teammate, He's
never been a bad teammate. Can you convince yourselves that
at least for a bridge season. Aaron Rodgers can at
least put some respectable football on the table.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
You sure can.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, No, I think he's a beaten down stock on
Wall Street. There's still value there. He was eighteen tds,
four picks in his last ten games, and again a
suboptimal coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
That was coming off in Achilles.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah yeah, like so it's like, folks, let's not get
nuts here. He can still spin it. Finally, I think
the quarterbacks go one and two. I think the first
three teams are desperate for quarterbacks. Although Aaron Mayland with
the Giants, cam Ward, the most talented quarterback, is at
a lock.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
He goes number one.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, he's got the biggest upside.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I don't know if it's all said and done that
Shador is not a better quarterback, But right now they're
looking at cam Ward pretty much unanimously around the league.
Remember when I talk to you as a number one
quarterback in this draft, and everyone loves his story. You know,
he started off at Incarnate Word, which is a school
in San Antonio, and he had no other options.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
That's where he went.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Then he went to Washington State, and then he goes
to Miami and single handedly in one season becomes the
greatest Miami quarterback statistics wise that we've ever seen, and
is an amazing kid, like everyone loves. He's humble, he works,
and I have a little story from the combine where
I was there on Saturday when he's working out and
I have access to walk on the field because I'm
interviewing different gms and I'm part of the NFL Network broadcast.
(11:06):
So I get down there and cam Ward's not working out,
but his teammate Xavier Restreppo is doing all the wide
receiver drills.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
He couldn't resist.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Cam Ward takes a football and they go through the
entire route tree together and he's flling the ball and
he's basically doing a workout despite not doing a workout.
It's just not on camera, and he's doing it while
Restreppo is working out, and he looks great, and like
every interview he did, he wowed everyone. Everyone loves cam Ward,
so I would say he's number one. Chador is a
little trickier. Here's the rub on Chaudor. He got the
(11:34):
snot kicked out of him in college, and that could
be a positive, saying that he's always taken a beating
and gotten up, or it could be a negative and
saying Okay, well he already has been hit a bunch
and he was under arrest his entire season at Colorado,
and maybe he doesn't have the arm strength or the
athleticism that cam Ward does. That said, I wouldn't read
all the negative stuff about Shador and I wouldn't read
(11:54):
all the negatituff that it's going to affect his draft
stock too much. I do think they go as the
top two quarterbacks, and to your point, I think they
could go as high as one to two, as crazy
as that might seem considering there are better pure players
in this draft. You just know how important it is
to draft a quarterback, and the quarterbacks always rise when
it comes to it.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
in neonon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
FS one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Peter Schrager, Fox Sports NFL Reporter, Fox NFL Kickoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
As always, we appreciate you. You're a busy guy.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
You're up to stop.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Can I tell you something? I thought you were so
good with Jimmy. We have a mutual love for Jimmy.
Jimmy Johnson has been such an important part of my
life at Fox and it was always so great, and
I thought you gave him the ultimate farewell yesterday.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
It meant a lot to all of us on the
football side.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Thanks buddy, great toe you to thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, the man, yep, yesterday, the great Jimmy Johnson retired
and uh, just a really interesting guy. I've been in
a few dinners or events with Jimmy Johnson and somebody
needs to stand up and kind of own the room.
And you just sit back and watch Jimmy go and
all times stuff. Troyck Been sent me a nice little
Texas morning, so it meant a lot to a lot
of people. Great Jimmy Johnson. I still got to go
(13:08):
fishing down in the Keys. I grew up in a
fishing community. Of course, it was cold and not very appealing.
Jimmy's on Awqua blue water fishing with a Heineken. That's
a that's a much better version of what I grew
up around as a kid.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Jay Mark with a.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
News no, no turn on the news. This is the
herdline news getting the hot.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
And heavy in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Colin breaking news out of New York Yesterday, Jets are
trying to trade Davonte Adams Today not takers. Jets are
releasing him. The move Freese up nearly thirty million. Cat's
face for my Jets. Too bad. There's no quarterback to
go get. Let's not go through the Devonte Adams history.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
He has been traded, been I can't say that on air.
He's been passed around a lot.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Let's just say and now he's been released by the Jets.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
He will surface likely wherever.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Aaron Rodgers, does you know the New York Giants cross
town they don't have a quarterback, Well, they could use
someone opposite the league neighbors Rogers and DeVante.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well, I mean, I think the Raiders prime example, Jacoby
Myers A two brock Bowers is great. I mean the Raiders,
although I don't see him going back.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Not going back there to the Raiders, the Giants. Aaron Rodgers,
I guess it works.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It just feels, you know, when you go when you
have instability as a legend, you don't want to go
back into more instability, and the Giants just feel like
they're an unstable mess.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
What if you have the Detroit Lions, do you make
a play for who for Devanta Adams.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
They got Amarance Brown, but like Jamison Williams is a
more of a gadget guy.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
He doesn't run a million routes.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
If I'm close, I'm just saying, DeVante, come on down, bro,
let's play with us.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
If I'm like, I would.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Say, like the top eight teams in the league, why
woudn't the Kansas City Chiefs go after? Hey man, you
want to try to win a super Bowl on the cheap?
What if you want Devant?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, they feel that Worthy became like a low end one.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Rice is coming back, I know, but yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think they have o line.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Needs Chargers that's probably the best.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I that one's interesting to me because I think they're
gonna move off Bosa or Mac and it's not a
great wide receiver draft. And I think so I think
what I think you can make an argument the Chargers
are gonna go after a tight end Loveland from Michigan
if available, and so if you, because I think the
Chargers are just missing two pieces. I think they're gonna
draft a running back, great running back draft. I think
(15:19):
they need another tight end and another receiver. Davante Adams
to the Chargers. Now, Harbaugh's built his career. Jim Harbaugh's
career is he's won Natty's and gotten the Super Bowls
without dominant receivers. So he you know, I mean, give
him the opportunity to draft a receiver or Joe Alt
he went offensive tackle.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Then if he said that in the room and I
was there and I'm a Jim Harball guy, I'd be like, Jim,
let me roll some footage of the Texans playoff loss
and it was Ladi mcconky or Boss.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
We had nobody.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, no, no, I don't disagree with we.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Can't do anything in Herbert the deep bull thrower. He
is with Adams.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
By the way, I just looked it up. California guy
from the West coast.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, Fresno state, resident state as well. No, it didn't makes.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Sense because you're not paying McConkey, you're not paying any
of your back they have to get because of JK.
Dobbins injury history. They need another back. I mean, we
all know what the Chargers need. A back at tight
end and another receiver. That's a good enough roster right now,
that's a good enough roster to win multiple playoff games.
Now they just don't have enough firepower. So I think
that it's gonna be very much an offensive draft for
(16:18):
the Charger.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Like we thought Carrol Wilson was a one. Maybe it
was just me.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
He was a superstar, and then Adams come in and
he was the primary target.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I still think.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Adams can be a one. The only other guy Godwin
in Tampa, remember he had He's hurt a lot. I
don't see him leaving Tampa. No, I see him staying there.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
So now t Higgins is out, it's like Charger's got.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
To do something.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
I think DeVante Adams makes a lot of sense for
the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Next up, Colin is kirk Cousin's future.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
We're gonna find out here very shortly what the deal is.
He's owned a ten million dollars roster bonus. He's still
on the team as of March seventeen. Dan Graziano of
ESPN reports that the bonus is not a factor in
their decision, adding the odds are stronger Atlanta won't to
trademarket and will release him at some point soon. That
shit surprised nobody. I've long been a Kirk Cousins defender.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Same I think he can. I still think he can win.
I think coming off the Achilles, it wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I don't know if Kirk Cousins needs he doesn't need
the money, and I think he's got a very full
life with his family. I could see Kirk Cousins sand
it was a good run. I'm over, it's over, Like
I get he's just.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Shutting it down.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, I think a lot of money. I looked at
Atlanta as a two year experiment. Anyway, we all knew
that Pennix was going to play. I thought it would
go better like by the way I was right until Thanksgiving.
He was exactly what I thought he would be until
Thanksgiving and then it just went off a club.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
But you could argue that it was ruined for Cousins
from the jump.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Remember he went there. He's like, I want to end
my career in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Then they draft his replacement with like the top ten pick.
I think he won eighth Pennix and at that point
Cousins had to be looking.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Around like what's going on here? And then he plays
that crap gets his achilles.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
I think, would you rather do Cousins on a two
year deal or Sam Donald on.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
A four year.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Cousins.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I would do Sam and a four.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
But we've seen Cousins with multiple quarterback Yeah, but coaches.
But we only saw Sam thrive with Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, it depends, do I get Chip Kelly. I think
Sam Donald on a four if the number is reasonable,
that could work. Yeah, I mean it's Kevin O'Connell's not
the only guy that can coach quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Nobody's What a best final story, Colin, is you love
a good mock draft?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
I alluded to this one earlier.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Listen, man, you and I think Schador is going to
many people.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Top five.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Lance Zerline, a guest on the show, just released his
mock draft.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Didn't listen. I'm not gonna blast the guy. He is
your boy.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
He has Chador going twenty ninth in the first round
a duel Carter first, I mean, okay, maybe he's the
best player. Travis Hunter second, that's insane to me. Memboo
the Missouri off, he had a he had a really
good played the combine. But jumping him to four, I
mean it could happen. T Mac you see at five,
(19:02):
samar Stewart. Lance is heavily skewed toward what just happened
in Indy Stuart who wasn't.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Really cam Wards. Cam Ward's gonna go number one.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I don't see how it doesn't happen. I think guys are.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Just talking stuff behind the scenes and leaking stuff out.
And I don't see a world where Tennessee passes on
a quarterback and starts with Will Levitz next year.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Okay, by the way, in Dane Brugler's mock draft in
The Athletic Today, they have Scheur Sanders going number twenty
one to Pittsburgh, So that what why?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Why?
Speaker 7 (19:32):
I know, so the Jets are passing on Sor's ads
and the Giants and Seattle, Well, he's a B prospect.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I don't care. We don't have a quarterback. Would I
would be absolutely floor.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
If he's a level this would be Luca level surprise.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I never thought was great, but now he's getting beat.
I mean, I do think he's a mid first round pick.
I think he's better than Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Who went Hope so well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Mean I think I think he's a first round pick.
I just think he's a mid to a lower first
round pick. But I also think there's like six teams
that are desperate, and three of them are the first
three teams picking. I mean, what does it matter if
you get out Dual Carter? If you can't move the chains,
who cares?
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah? What's it gonna this whole?
Speaker 7 (20:14):
Like good, Kit Brown's got to get up Duel Carter
to replace Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You don't have a.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Quarterback Jasam Watson. He's probably not coming back for a minute.
I'm just a little dumped down to But I do
think as we get closer to the draft, everybody he'll
with quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
J Mack with the News, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So are we gonna go to the Knicks Lakers on
Thursdays to make that happen?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
What do you mean my powers?
Speaker 6 (20:44):
I don't like kind of a big deal.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
No, I don't like to I don't like doing this.
I don't like asking for free tickets.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
So people haven't really hung with you before.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
But I'm just telling you, man, don't get into but
being around you, people want to come up and tell
me at whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I don't like doing free tickets because I like to
either buy my tickets or get them from an insider
that's not connected to a team, because I have to
be critical of teams and I don't want I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Want to be that guy.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
The Lakers won't care if you're critical.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Trust hold on.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, by the way, I will say this, can you
get in my NBA bubble, I did include the Lakers. Now,
I am in no way asking for free tickets to
the Knicks game.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Put that on the screen, let's see.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
But on my NBA bubble, I do have six teams,
and the Lakers or one of them.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Says the guy who eats dinner next to Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Okay, whatever, so I got I have from the West,
I have the Warriors, the Lakers, Okac, and Denver. I
think the two best teams in the NBA are Boston
and Cleveland. By the way, the Knicks can't beat Boston,
Cleveland or okay, see, I think they're like oh for
seven or oh for eight. So the Knicks are a
good basketball team.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Nicks Warriors tonight from MSG Oh what? Oh? Really, it's
like a Marque game yet? Oh okay, Curry loves the Garden.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
You'll go for fifty and a Heartbeat, Jimmy Butler against Thibodeau.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
So that starts at what four to thirty our times
seven thirty garden time?
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Yeah, good call four thirty. That's an early tip.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
All right, all right, Live in l aed'e the Hurt.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and Noone eastern nin am Pacific.
Speaker 9 (22:14):
Hey, Steve Covino and I'm Rich David and together we're
Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You could catch
us weekdays from five to seven pm Eastern two to
four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and of course the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Why should you listen to Covino and Rich.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
We talk about everything life, sports, relationships, what's.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
We have a lot of fun talking about the stories
behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture,
stories that well other shows don't seem to have the
time to discuss.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
And the fact that we've been friends for the last
twenty years and still work together. I mean that says something, right,
So check us out. We like to get you involved too,
take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say.
I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio
maybe the most interactive show on planetar Be sure to
check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeartRadio app from five to seven pm Eastern
(23:01):
two to four Pacific, and if you miss any of
the live show, just search Kobe non Rich wherever you
get your podcasts, and of course on social media, that's
Cavino and Rich.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
By the way, I was watching a replay of the
Oscars with my daughter on YouTube TV last night. I
thought Conan O'Brien was really good, but I'm not even sure.
I think I'm gonna go try to watch Anora. But
it's amazing how little interest I had in any of
the films. And my daughter was the same mine, you know,
different generations. He's like Ana, like brutalist is four hours.
(23:32):
I mean, if I'm flying to Antarctica, maybe I'll have time,
but like four hours. That guy's speech was five minutes,
his movies four hours. I've got enough just talk watching
his speech.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I was exhausted.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So Lebron goes for his fiftieth thousandth point. You know,
did anybody see this? So they came out with Lebron
James career shot chart came out.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Where I was looking at this morning. It's interesting. So
here's his career.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I mean, that's every shot he's taken, by the way
he's taken more shit that maybe this is half, but
the point being blue shots, Sorry, radio audience. Blue shots
a regular season. Playoff shots are in red. Look at
how much Lebron attacks the basket in the playoffs. So
(24:17):
that goes back to everything with Lebron is planned and managed.
I think his move off AD, people think it's the
Lakers move. I do not believe that. I with all
my heart. I think JJ Reddick and Lebron James. I
think in the building Rob Polinka, they had made a
(24:39):
discussion that AD was a good fit, Luca was a
better fit. But it just goes back to my belief
that Lebron has made calculated moves. Leaving Cleveland, leaving Miami,
leaving Cleveland, getting off Lonzo Ball, and all the young
players moving off AD to me feels like another calculated
(25:00):
Now I'm not saying they set it up for a year,
but I firmly believe that successful people they just think
differently and they're very strategic. And I mean I've worked
this corporation, other corporations they're strategic. The greatest athletes of
my life similarly have been very strategic. I remember when
(25:21):
Brady left to Tampa, and you know, I can remember
I think it was Adam Schefter reporting, like you know,
he'd already like put his house up for sale the
year before, he had made some moves with his contract.
Brady knew a year out he was leaving, and there
were like three teams. He was interested in Miami first
and then Tampa and the Chargers later. So nothing with
(25:44):
Lebron is just winging it. He doesn't. That's not what
he does. People don't wing it. You know, maybe our
current White House is winging it. I don't know, but
Lebron doesn't wing it. He didn't wing it leave in
Cleveland or Miami or Cleveland or moving off Lonzo Ball.
So I don't suddenly believe he's just like, hey, phone
(26:07):
call hello, we're moving off ad WHOA no heads up?
Jo Oh, this caught me by surprise. That's not how
you do business with JJ Reddick. That's not how you're
gonna do business because the future of the Lakers, Lebron
and Reddick, You're not gonna give him Eddie heads up.
I just don't think Genie Bus operates that way. I'm
sorry so and Nick Wright was on earlier. I do
(26:27):
think Luke and Lebron and throwing Austin Reeves, I think
they're very dangerous come playoff time.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
They have two offensive supercomputers at the wings slash point
guard position, and almost every contender has one guy you
can throw on someone like that the thunder Loudort. The
Nuggets have Aaron Gordon, like you have someone you have
a guy to throw on those to throw on Lebron
(26:57):
or throw on Luca when you are playing Denver in
a series. If Aaron Gordon is guarding Lebron, then who
the hell is guarding Luca?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, I know it's a legitimate question. I think there
are two great teams in this league that don't have
a hole. Cleveland Boston. I've watched them. I've watched Boston
play fifteen times. I've watched Cleveland play eight or nine times.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
There's no hole.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
They can defend the rim, they defend the wing, they
can score from, you know their efficient. I think they're
well coached. Cleveland and Boston are the two best teams
in the league. The West is much deeper and much
better and this happens a lot like like last year
in college football. The year before, Michigan was the best team,
the SEC was the best conference. Now this year you
can argue that Big Ten was better than the SEC.
But the two best teams in the NBA in terms
(27:41):
of a lack of holes, liabilities, bench starters, defend the rim,
defend the wing, shoot threes efficiency is Cleveland and Boston.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I don't even think it's arguable.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I think Oklahoma City is really, really good, but I
still don't know. Am I gonna trust Chet Holmgren in
a big playoff road game. I'm gonna trust Evan Mobley,
and I'm gonna trust Donovan Mitchell and Derek White and
Jason Tatum Andrew Holliday and for Zingis and Jason Tatum
and Luca and Lebron and Jimmy Butler and Steph a
(28:14):
lot of Oklahoma City guys outside of SGA who I
don't think is gonna get Whistle.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I don't know if I trust him. I don't know
if I trust them in a big road game. That
doesn't mean they're not good.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But I think the NBA got really lucky. And we've
talked about this before it's one of the things, like
right now in baseball, it's literally perfect. One of the
big offseason moves Justin Tucker to the Cubs, huge franchise,
Aaron Judge in New York, Soto of the Mets, Freeman Betts,
o'tawny with the Dodgers, another Southern California team, Tatis and
(28:48):
Machado and San Diego. Houston's always got players, Atlanta's got acunya.
Like literally, if you picked teams to be good in baseball,
it would be Yankees, Dodgers, Braves, Houston, Cubs, Mets. You'd
want big markets. They've all got the best players. Kyle Tucker,
not Justin Sorry my bad to the Cubs. So I mean,
(29:10):
I just think things are cyclical. I think right now
the NBA got a huge break at the trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Butler to the Warriors, totally.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Different franchise today eight and one with Jimmy Butler and
Luca to the Lakers. And I said this three weeks
ago and I'll say it again. It is crazy. The
Lakers got Kobe from Charlotte for Vlade divots, who wasn't
an All Star. They got Shack from Orlando for a
(29:40):
bunch of parts. They got Pow Gasol from Memphis for
some draft picks and Mark Gasol, and they got Luca
from the Mavericks for a d at thirty two years old,
Max Chris Christi and a pick four times, and the
Lakers it's never been just about getting stars. The Lakers
(30:02):
have always gotten the right star. The Clippers are desperate,
they go get James Harden, not very likable, and Kawhi
Leonard rarely available. So for the Clippers it's just about, hey,
can we get a star in the building, and that
was a big deal for them. The Lakers have always
been about we're not desperate here, We're going to get
the right star. And even Ad who's a very good player,
(30:24):
Luke is the better star. He's younger, more of an initiator,
more offensively gifted, not very good defensively, but does I
think fit Lebron going forward better. So it's an exciting time.
Tonight they play the Pelicans. Lebron will score is fifty
thousand and then point and I will say this is
that the one For years and years Lebron played in
(30:46):
the East and dominated the East. The West is better
and deeper. I've never quite figured out why the West
for probably thirty straight years. That doesn't mean they've always
had a champion. Celtics won last year. The West is
always better than the East. Guests better owners, better brands,
better gms.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't know what it is, but Lebron.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
If you take Lebron out of the East for about
a twelve year period, it was bad, Like it just
wasn't good at all. Now Lebron is aged, He's still great,
but it's just tougher. Golden State's reel, Okase's reel. I mean,
you know, Denver still a championship level team. They're not
as deep as they were three years ago, still very good.
(31:25):
So tonight's the Pelicans. Then it gets right now the
playoff standings in the West, thunder ever in the one
can you believe that Lakers two, Nuggets three. I mean,
I'm not counting the Grizzlies and the Rockets, who I
think are too young. They're four and five, Warriors six.
I can't take the Clippers seriously.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
So it's.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
If the playoffs started today. Boy, you've got a lot
of You've got NBA got really lucky with the Jimmy Butler,
Luca moves really fortunate.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Hey, ed, let me quick, Can I go back to
say one? Barkley interesting?
Speaker 7 (31:56):
Some guys are some of the cap guys are noticing stuff.
Derrick Henry is on a two year, sixteen million dollar deal.
Saquon Barkley is now on a two year, forty one
million dollar deal.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Colin, that's kind of jarring.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
It's almost like the momentum is turned toward running backs.
Does Derrick Henry now say, hey, guys, come on, is
Saquon Barkley more than two times the running back?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I am, well, he's better than Henry. I'm not sure
he's that much better. We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
It is, I heard
Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to
catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in
noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find
your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio
dot com, or stream us live every day on the
iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay, this is interesting. So I believe Howie Roseman of
the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Is very smart.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's being reported the Eagles are giving Saquon Barkley two
years and forty one million dollars. That is a lot
for a running back and a contract extension. He's earned it.
I love him, classy great. Okay, So I'm gonna go
to Schreger, Peter Schreger joining me.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I got a question.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So how We Roseman said a week ago, We're gonna
make some moves here. It's gonna be a little unconventional.
What he was basically saying, Shregs, is we're gonna have
to get rid of some guys you really really like.
So he is signing Barkley first, which is gonna get
great press, and everybody's gonna love him because he's gonna
have to let go of either like the linebacker A. J.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Brown.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
My guess is they were gonna do this anyway, but
they've done this early to get some good momentum because
they're gonna have to make.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Some tough cuts here eventually, am I nuts.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Well, they're gonna they're roster it so happens sanny super
Bowl champion that has all that talent on it, that
had those high sucks. So like Darius Slay was already cut,
James Bradberry was already cut. I think Milton Williams is
gonna sign else where. I think Zach Bond's likely gonna
sign elsewhere. I think I think Josh Sweat's gonna sign us.
So like they're gonna get the life sucked out of them.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
But Saquan is the most important piece.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And if you're an Eagles fan, you're like, all right,
we got Jalen Hurts, Saquon and we got DeVante Smith
and that offensive line.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
No. I think it's interesting because you mentioned Zach Bonn
and that's the one the fans in Philly because he's
such a work class, tough kid.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's a hard guy to move off.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You get crushed on WIP Radio for forty eight hours. Yeah,
so I think they get I mean, if you signed Barkley,
I think he gives so much good will.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Now I want to talk about this because you would
know this, listen.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Matt had a couple of years on his contract Stafford,
and unlike the Niners who have occasionally caved a little
to players, the Rams.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Are tough negotiators.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I mean they moved off Jalen Ramsey, Bill, move off
Cooper Cup. How close did we get here to Stafford
not being a Ram shregs?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It was a lot closer than people as like, you know,
at the end of it, everyone says, oh, well.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Of course he wasn't going anywhere. It wasn't the case.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
This was a really up and down week and it
was the one that tested the relationship. But to Sean
mcvay's great credit, he was completely transparent with Stafford and
gave Jimmy Sexton, a really powerful agent from CIA who
also represents guys like Bill Parcells and Nick Saban, and
he's got a client in Matthew Savag gave him the ability.
They said, why don't you go on your own and
(03:02):
go test the market and see what he can get
on the open market as if he was a free agent.
And it turned out there were multiple teams willing to
pay Matthew Stafford more than fifty million dollars and that
is way more than what the Rams are willing.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
To pay him.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
And then it was a discussion of okay, we can
trade you to one of those teams, whether it be
the Raiders or it be the Giants. Do you really
want this or will you take less and come back
here and not move your family and not go to
a team that hasn't made the playoffs in the years
and not get to know an entire new strength and
conditioning and coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
And what it all came to be.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Stafford and McVeigh met at six thirty am Pacific time,
Friday morning.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
All cards were on the table.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It was completely transparent, and it wasn't like they had
some you know, blowout the week earlier and it went
through aid. It was all like this, and it was like,
you know what, I will take less money than I
can make on the open market, and i will return
to the Rams because I know what I'm getting and
I've got four little girls and a wife who loves
living a lost Angels and I like working with you, so.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
They ran it back. But don't get it twisted.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Anyone who tells you that there was not actual trade
talks with the Rams and the Giants is wrong. And
Rams and the Raiders was wrong their parameters being set.
At the end of the day, Stafford didn't want to leave,
and he's taking less money to play for the Rams.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Okay, So we as a staff the last two days,
we just can't quite figure out Sam Darnold. So I
love him, I said, Josh Allen had two stinkers last
year and Mahomes had several, and they had a better
roster than Donald. And I think Kevin O'Connell looks at
it and thinks, Okay, it didn't end well. But the
Rams were better than us, and the Lions were playing
one of the biggest games in ten years in Detroit.
(04:35):
We got overwhelmed. It happened to Josh Allen who went
nine for thirty against Houston. It happened to Mahomes against
the Raiders. It happens in this league. It was certainly
capable for Sam Donald against better teams on the road
to get beat, but they have JJ McCarthy and so
when I hear you know they're working on a new
deal with Donald.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Could you explain what's going on in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Well, I don't.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I don't think we can harp on what you're saying enough.
I don't know if a single player has cost himself
more money than what Sam Donald cost himself in the
matter of eight days that Week eighteen game against the Lions,
playing for home field advantage, playing for Annecy and playing
the way he did, and then eight days later against
the Rams that was scary for a lot of teams,
saying I can't give Sam Donald fifty million dollars if
(05:21):
those two games exist on film.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
When it matters most.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
He reverted back to all the bad Sam Donald games
that he's had instead of the great ones that he
had for seventeen weeks. That's unfair to him, right, we
think that's unfair to him. That's the truth of the matter.
I don't have a market for Sam Donald. That is
that is team's lining up outside the door to go
sign them. Meanwhile, I think if we were going into
Week eighteen there were those teams, I would think that
(05:44):
many of these teams, Cleveland, Tennessee, the Giants, they would
all be interested in talking.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
But those two weeks he.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Reverted back to a version or at least showed a
version of himself that scared off a lot of these teams.
Now we're talking about taking ten million dollars off the table,
twenty million dollars off the table from what he might
have been had he finished and had this miracle.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Super Bowl run.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So you look at the Vikings, they don't know what
JJ McCarthy they're getting. He was hurt all last year.
They like him, they drafted him top ten. If Sam
Donald is willing to come back on a two year deal,
say they pay him thirty million the next two years,
gets a two year, sixty million dollars deal with an
out maybe after the first I think the Vikings would
be very open to that. Sam Donald goes and crushes
(06:25):
it once again, McCarthy's there. Maybe if McCarthy like his
lights out during training camp, they could still trade Donald
to a team. I think that is the most likely
outcome for Sam Donald this free agency ride. He comes
back to Minnesota not on a franchise tag deal where
they're paying him fifty million, but that they pay him
something more like what Baker Mayfield made last year with
(06:45):
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and when he got his deal
and said, hey, why don't we bring you back on
something like around thirty thirty five and you prove it
again and then you cash out big after that. It's
not ideal for Sam Donald. It is ideal for the
Vikings because they don't know what they have in jay
Ja McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
We know shregs.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
You know this that quarterbacks can be elevated the better
the coach. I mean, Matt Stafford was always great. Now
he's a star, right Herbert with Harbaugh, all his numbers,
you know, went up Shane steik And as a rookie
as his coordinat coaching matters for quarterbacks, especially younger quarterbacks,
but older quarterbacks too.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So I defended Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I said, after Soli got fired, this was not a
great coaching staff. Aaron's last ten games, he's pretty good.
Wasn't great, but he's pretty good. There is a market.
Let's not be ridiculous. I think the pendulum has swung
so far on Aaron. People are like, yeah, he can't play.
I watched the last ten games. He moved a little
(07:46):
better when he got Davonte in. I don't know I'm
Pete Carroll, Chip, Kelly brock Bauers, I got a center
in the draft. I have Colton Miller. I'm the Raiders.
Bring him back West. It seems it's not a great market,
like Aaron Rodgers Raiders.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Is there something there?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, there's something there.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I also think Aaron Rodgers Giants is a real possibility.
You've heard that, And the truth of the matter is
you're right. If you look at the stats and the film.
He played well over the second half of the season,
and oh yeah, he was coming off the achilles the
first half of this season. Twenty eight touchdowns, I believe,
eleven interceptions on a team that had a lot of
issues with coaching but also their offensive line. Look, there's
(08:30):
no teams that are banging down the door for Aaron
Rodgers right now, and you're gonna look to pay him
big money. But you could convince yourself, if you're either
the Giants or the Raiders, that if we can't get
one of the top prospects in the draft, or the
top prospect in the draft, which is cam Ward, there's
a lot worse off that we could do than bring
in Rogers. Here is the rub with Rogers. The media
might not like him. The national mainstream media might not
(08:54):
like him. He might not go with some of them.
He speaks his mind, which is uncomfortable for some owners.
Players love him, teammates love him. He is he that
Jets locker room. They would ride or die for Aaron Rodgers.
They loved Aaron Rodgers those young players, and he was
he was a great teammate to them. So it's this
(09:14):
rub like do I care if Jimmy Kimball doesn't like
Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Or do I care that Garrett that you know the
young players on the team.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Love Aaron Rodgers. Like, where are we at with this thing?
I think the Giants Brian Dables under the gun? Brian
Dables been questioned, Aaron Rodgers under the gun. Aaron Rodgers
been questioned like, do you would you ride with Aaron
Rodgers of the Giant chip on his shoulder for a
budget contract?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I think you would?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And if you're the Raiders, does anyone no quarterback play
better than Tom Brady and Chip Kelly? Like if they
like him and he's always been a good teammate, He's
never been a bad teammate. Can you convince yourselves that
at least for a bridge season. Aaron Rodgers can at
least put some respectable football on the table.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
You sure can.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, No, I think he's a beaten down stock on
Wall Street. There's still value there. He was eighteen tds,
four picks in his last ten games, and again a
suboptimal coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
That was coming off in Achilles.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah yeah, like so it's like, folks, let's not get
nuts here. He can still spin it. Finally, I think
the quarterbacks go one and two. I think the first
three teams are desperate for quarterbacks. Although Aaron Mayland with
the Giants, cam Ward, the most talented quarterback, is at
a lock.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
He goes number one.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, he's got the biggest upside.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I don't know if it's all said and done that
Shador is not a better quarterback, But right now they're
looking at cam Ward pretty much unanimously around the league.
Remember when I talk to you as a number one
quarterback in this draft, and everyone loves his story. You know,
he started off at Incarnate Word, which is a school
in San Antonio, and he had no other options.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
That's where he went.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Then he went to Washington State, and then he goes
to Miami and single handedly in one season becomes the
greatest Miami quarterback statistics wise that we've ever seen, and
is an amazing kid, like everyone loves. He's humble, he works,
and I have a little story from the combine where
I was there on Saturday when he's working out and
I have access to walk on the field because I'm
interviewing different gms and I'm part of the NFL Network broadcast.
(11:06):
So I get down there and cam Ward's not working out,
but his teammate Xavier Restreppo is doing all the wide
receiver drills.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
He couldn't resist.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Cam Ward takes a football and they go through the
entire route tree together and he's flling the ball and
he's basically doing a workout despite not doing a workout.
It's just not on camera, and he's doing it while
Restreppo is working out, and he looks great, and like
every interview he did, he wowed everyone. Everyone loves cam Ward,
so I would say he's number one. Chador is a
little trickier. Here's the rub on Chaudor. He got the
(11:34):
snot kicked out of him in college, and that could
be a positive, saying that he's always taken a beating
and gotten up, or it could be a negative and
saying Okay, well he already has been hit a bunch
and he was under arrest his entire season at Colorado,
and maybe he doesn't have the arm strength or the
athleticism that cam Ward does. That said, I wouldn't read
all the negative stuff about Shador and I wouldn't read
(11:54):
all the negatituff that it's going to affect his draft
stock too much. I do think they go as the
top two quarterbacks, and to your point, I think they
could go as high as one to two, as crazy
as that might seem considering there are better pure players
in this draft. You just know how important it is
to draft a quarterback, and the quarterbacks always rise when
it comes to it.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
in neonon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
FS one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Peter Schrager, Fox Sports NFL Reporter, Fox NFL Kickoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
As always, we appreciate you. You're a busy guy.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
You're up to stop.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Can I tell you something? I thought you were so
good with Jimmy. We have a mutual love for Jimmy.
Jimmy Johnson has been such an important part of my
life at Fox and it was always so great, and
I thought you gave him the ultimate farewell yesterday.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
It meant a lot to all of us on the
football side.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Thanks buddy, great toe you to thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, the man, yep, yesterday, the great Jimmy Johnson retired
and uh, just a really interesting guy. I've been in
a few dinners or events with Jimmy Johnson and somebody
needs to stand up and kind of own the room.
And you just sit back and watch Jimmy go and
all times stuff. Troyck Been sent me a nice little
Texas morning, so it meant a lot to a lot
of people. Great Jimmy Johnson. I still got to go
(13:08):
fishing down in the Keys. I grew up in a
fishing community. Of course, it was cold and not very appealing.
Jimmy's on Awqua blue water fishing with a Heineken. That's
a that's a much better version of what I grew
up around as a kid.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Jay Mark with a.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
News no, no turn on the news. This is the
herdline news getting the hot.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
And heavy in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Colin breaking news out of New York Yesterday, Jets are
trying to trade Davonte Adams Today not takers. Jets are
releasing him. The move Freese up nearly thirty million. Cat's
face for my Jets. Too bad. There's no quarterback to
go get. Let's not go through the Devonte Adams history.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
He has been traded, been I can't say that on air.
He's been passed around a lot.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Let's just say and now he's been released by the Jets.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
He will surface likely wherever.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Aaron Rodgers, does you know the New York Giants cross
town they don't have a quarterback, Well, they could use
someone opposite the league neighbors Rogers and DeVante.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well, I mean, I think the Raiders prime example, Jacoby
Myers A two brock Bowers is great. I mean the Raiders,
although I don't see him going back.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Not going back there to the Raiders, the Giants. Aaron Rodgers,
I guess it works.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It just feels, you know, when you go when you
have instability as a legend, you don't want to go
back into more instability, and the Giants just feel like
they're an unstable mess.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
What if you have the Detroit Lions, do you make
a play for who for Devanta Adams.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
They got Amarance Brown, but like Jamison Williams is a
more of a gadget guy.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
He doesn't run a million routes.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
If I'm close, I'm just saying, DeVante, come on down, bro,
let's play with us.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
If I'm like, I would.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Say, like the top eight teams in the league, why
woudn't the Kansas City Chiefs go after? Hey man, you
want to try to win a super Bowl on the cheap?
What if you want Devant?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, they feel that Worthy became like a low end one.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Rice is coming back, I know, but yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think they have o line.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Needs Chargers that's probably the best.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I that one's interesting to me because I think they're
gonna move off Bosa or Mac and it's not a
great wide receiver draft. And I think so I think
what I think you can make an argument the Chargers
are gonna go after a tight end Loveland from Michigan
if available, and so if you, because I think the
Chargers are just missing two pieces. I think they're gonna
draft a running back, great running back draft. I think
(15:19):
they need another tight end and another receiver. Davante Adams
to the Chargers. Now, Harbaugh's built his career. Jim Harbaugh's
career is he's won Natty's and gotten the Super Bowls
without dominant receivers. So he you know, I mean, give
him the opportunity to draft a receiver or Joe Alt
he went offensive tackle.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Then if he said that in the room and I
was there and I'm a Jim Harball guy, I'd be like, Jim,
let me roll some footage of the Texans playoff loss
and it was Ladi mcconky or Boss.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
We had nobody.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, no, no, I don't disagree with we.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Can't do anything in Herbert the deep bull thrower. He
is with Adams.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
By the way, I just looked it up. California guy
from the West coast.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, Fresno state, resident state as well. No, it didn't makes.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Sense because you're not paying McConkey, you're not paying any
of your back they have to get because of JK.
Dobbins injury history. They need another back. I mean, we
all know what the Chargers need. A back at tight
end and another receiver. That's a good enough roster right now,
that's a good enough roster to win multiple playoff games.
Now they just don't have enough firepower. So I think
that it's gonna be very much an offensive draft for
(16:18):
the Charger.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Like we thought Carrol Wilson was a one. Maybe it
was just me.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
He was a superstar, and then Adams come in and
he was the primary target.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I still think.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Adams can be a one. The only other guy Godwin
in Tampa, remember he had He's hurt a lot. I
don't see him leaving Tampa. No, I see him staying there.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
So now t Higgins is out, it's like Charger's got.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
To do something.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
I think DeVante Adams makes a lot of sense for
the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Next up, Colin is kirk Cousin's future.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
We're gonna find out here very shortly what the deal is.
He's owned a ten million dollars roster bonus. He's still
on the team as of March seventeen. Dan Graziano of
ESPN reports that the bonus is not a factor in
their decision, adding the odds are stronger Atlanta won't to
trademarket and will release him at some point soon. That
shit surprised nobody. I've long been a Kirk Cousins defender.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Same I think he can. I still think he can win.
I think coming off the Achilles, it wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I don't know if Kirk Cousins needs he doesn't need
the money, and I think he's got a very full
life with his family. I could see Kirk Cousins sand
it was a good run. I'm over, it's over, Like
I get he's just.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Shutting it down.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, I think a lot of money. I looked at
Atlanta as a two year experiment. Anyway, we all knew
that Pennix was going to play. I thought it would
go better like by the way I was right until Thanksgiving.
He was exactly what I thought he would be until
Thanksgiving and then it just went off a club.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
But you could argue that it was ruined for Cousins
from the jump.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Remember he went there. He's like, I want to end
my career in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Then they draft his replacement with like the top ten pick.
I think he won eighth Pennix and at that point
Cousins had to be looking.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Around like what's going on here? And then he plays
that crap gets his achilles.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
I think, would you rather do Cousins on a two
year deal or Sam Donald on.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
A four year.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Cousins.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I would do Sam and a four.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
But we've seen Cousins with multiple quarterback Yeah, but coaches.
But we only saw Sam thrive with Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, it depends, do I get Chip Kelly. I think
Sam Donald on a four if the number is reasonable,
that could work. Yeah, I mean it's Kevin O'Connell's not
the only guy that can coach quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Nobody's What a best final story, Colin, is you love
a good mock draft?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
I alluded to this one earlier.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Listen, man, you and I think Schador is going to
many people.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Top five.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Lance Zerline, a guest on the show, just released his
mock draft.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Didn't listen. I'm not gonna blast the guy. He is
your boy.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
He has Chador going twenty ninth in the first round
a duel Carter first, I mean, okay, maybe he's the
best player. Travis Hunter second, that's insane to me. Memboo
the Missouri off, he had a he had a really
good played the combine. But jumping him to four, I
mean it could happen. T Mac you see at five,
(19:02):
samar Stewart. Lance is heavily skewed toward what just happened
in Indy Stuart who wasn't.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Really cam Wards. Cam Ward's gonna go number one.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I don't see how it doesn't happen. I think guys are.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Just talking stuff behind the scenes and leaking stuff out.
And I don't see a world where Tennessee passes on
a quarterback and starts with Will Levitz next year.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Okay, by the way, in Dane Brugler's mock draft in
The Athletic Today, they have Scheur Sanders going number twenty
one to Pittsburgh, So that what why?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Why?
Speaker 7 (19:32):
I know, so the Jets are passing on Sor's ads
and the Giants and Seattle, Well, he's a B prospect.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I don't care. We don't have a quarterback. Would I
would be absolutely floor.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
If he's a level this would be Luca level surprise.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I never thought was great, but now he's getting beat.
I mean, I do think he's a mid first round pick.
I think he's better than Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Who went Hope so well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Mean I think I think he's a first round pick.
I just think he's a mid to a lower first
round pick. But I also think there's like six teams
that are desperate, and three of them are the first
three teams picking. I mean, what does it matter if
you get out Dual Carter? If you can't move the chains,
who cares?
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah? What's it gonna this whole?
Speaker 7 (20:14):
Like good, Kit Brown's got to get up Duel Carter
to replace Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You don't have a.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Quarterback Jasam Watson. He's probably not coming back for a minute.
I'm just a little dumped down to But I do
think as we get closer to the draft, everybody he'll
with quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
J Mack with the News, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So are we gonna go to the Knicks Lakers on
Thursdays to make that happen?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
What do you mean my powers?
Speaker 6 (20:44):
I don't like kind of a big deal.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
No, I don't like to I don't like doing this.
I don't like asking for free tickets.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
So people haven't really hung with you before.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
But I'm just telling you, man, don't get into but
being around you, people want to come up and tell
me at whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I don't like doing free tickets because I like to
either buy my tickets or get them from an insider
that's not connected to a team, because I have to
be critical of teams and I don't want I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Want to be that guy.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
The Lakers won't care if you're critical.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Trust hold on.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, by the way, I will say this, can you
get in my NBA bubble, I did include the Lakers. Now,
I am in no way asking for free tickets to
the Knicks game.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Put that on the screen, let's see.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
But on my NBA bubble, I do have six teams,
and the Lakers or one of them.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Says the guy who eats dinner next to Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Okay, whatever, so I got I have from the West,
I have the Warriors, the Lakers, Okac, and Denver. I
think the two best teams in the NBA are Boston
and Cleveland. By the way, the Knicks can't beat Boston,
Cleveland or okay, see, I think they're like oh for
seven or oh for eight. So the Knicks are a
good basketball team.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Nicks Warriors tonight from MSG Oh what? Oh? Really, it's
like a Marque game yet? Oh okay, Curry loves the Garden.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
You'll go for fifty and a Heartbeat, Jimmy Butler against Thibodeau.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
So that starts at what four to thirty our times
seven thirty garden time?
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Yeah, good call four thirty. That's an early tip.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
All right, all right, Live in l aed'e the Hurt.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and Noone eastern nin am Pacific.
Speaker 9 (22:14):
Hey, Steve Covino and I'm Rich David and together we're
Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You could catch
us weekdays from five to seven pm Eastern two to
four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and of course the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Why should you listen to Covino and Rich.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
We talk about everything life, sports, relationships, what's.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
We have a lot of fun talking about the stories
behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture,
stories that well other shows don't seem to have the
time to discuss.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
And the fact that we've been friends for the last
twenty years and still work together. I mean that says something, right,
So check us out. We like to get you involved too,
take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say.
I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio
maybe the most interactive show on planetar Be sure to
check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeartRadio app from five to seven pm Eastern
(23:01):
two to four Pacific, and if you miss any of
the live show, just search Kobe non Rich wherever you
get your podcasts, and of course on social media, that's
Cavino and Rich.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
By the way, I was watching a replay of the
Oscars with my daughter on YouTube TV last night. I
thought Conan O'Brien was really good, but I'm not even sure.
I think I'm gonna go try to watch Anora. But
it's amazing how little interest I had in any of
the films. And my daughter was the same mine, you know,
different generations. He's like Ana, like brutalist is four hours.
(23:32):
I mean, if I'm flying to Antarctica, maybe I'll have time,
but like four hours. That guy's speech was five minutes,
his movies four hours. I've got enough just talk watching
his speech.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I was exhausted.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So Lebron goes for his fiftieth thousandth point. You know,
did anybody see this? So they came out with Lebron
James career shot chart came out.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Where I was looking at this morning. It's interesting. So
here's his career.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I mean, that's every shot he's taken, by the way
he's taken more shit that maybe this is half, but
the point being blue shots, Sorry, radio audience. Blue shots
a regular season. Playoff shots are in red. Look at
how much Lebron attacks the basket in the playoffs. So
(24:17):
that goes back to everything with Lebron is planned and managed.
I think his move off AD, people think it's the
Lakers move. I do not believe that. I with all
my heart. I think JJ Reddick and Lebron James. I
think in the building Rob Polinka, they had made a
(24:39):
discussion that AD was a good fit, Luca was a
better fit. But it just goes back to my belief
that Lebron has made calculated moves. Leaving Cleveland, leaving Miami,
leaving Cleveland, getting off Lonzo Ball, and all the young
players moving off AD to me feels like another calculated
(25:00):
Now I'm not saying they set it up for a year,
but I firmly believe that successful people they just think
differently and they're very strategic. And I mean I've worked
this corporation, other corporations they're strategic. The greatest athletes of
my life similarly have been very strategic. I remember when
(25:21):
Brady left to Tampa, and you know, I can remember
I think it was Adam Schefter reporting, like you know,
he'd already like put his house up for sale the
year before, he had made some moves with his contract.
Brady knew a year out he was leaving, and there
were like three teams. He was interested in Miami first
and then Tampa and the Chargers later. So nothing with
(25:44):
Lebron is just winging it. He doesn't. That's not what
he does. People don't wing it. You know, maybe our
current White House is winging it. I don't know, but
Lebron doesn't wing it. He didn't wing it leave in
Cleveland or Miami or Cleveland or moving off Lonzo Ball.
So I don't suddenly believe he's just like, hey, phone
(26:07):
call hello, we're moving off ad WHOA no heads up?
Jo Oh, this caught me by surprise. That's not how
you do business with JJ Reddick. That's not how you're
gonna do business because the future of the Lakers, Lebron
and Reddick, You're not gonna give him Eddie heads up.
I just don't think Genie Bus operates that way. I'm
sorry so and Nick Wright was on earlier. I do
(26:27):
think Luke and Lebron and throwing Austin Reeves, I think
they're very dangerous come playoff time.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
They have two offensive supercomputers at the wings slash point
guard position, and almost every contender has one guy you
can throw on someone like that the thunder Loudort. The
Nuggets have Aaron Gordon, like you have someone you have
a guy to throw on those to throw on Lebron
(26:57):
or throw on Luca when you are playing Denver in
a series. If Aaron Gordon is guarding Lebron, then who
the hell is guarding Luca?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, I know it's a legitimate question. I think there
are two great teams in this league that don't have
a hole. Cleveland Boston. I've watched them. I've watched Boston
play fifteen times. I've watched Cleveland play eight or nine times.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
There's no hole.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
They can defend the rim, they defend the wing, they
can score from, you know their efficient. I think they're
well coached. Cleveland and Boston are the two best teams
in the league. The West is much deeper and much
better and this happens a lot like like last year
in college football. The year before, Michigan was the best team,
the SEC was the best conference. Now this year you
can argue that Big Ten was better than the SEC.
But the two best teams in the NBA in terms
(27:41):
of a lack of holes, liabilities, bench starters, defend the rim,
defend the wing, shoot threes efficiency is Cleveland and Boston.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I don't even think it's arguable.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I think Oklahoma City is really, really good, but I
still don't know. Am I gonna trust Chet Holmgren in
a big playoff road game. I'm gonna trust Evan Mobley,
and I'm gonna trust Donovan Mitchell and Derek White and
Jason Tatum Andrew Holliday and for Zingis and Jason Tatum
and Luca and Lebron and Jimmy Butler and Steph a
(28:14):
lot of Oklahoma City guys outside of SGA who I
don't think is gonna get Whistle.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I don't know if I trust him. I don't know
if I trust them in a big road game. That
doesn't mean they're not good.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But I think the NBA got really lucky. And we've
talked about this before it's one of the things, like
right now in baseball, it's literally perfect. One of the
big offseason moves Justin Tucker to the Cubs, huge franchise,
Aaron Judge in New York, Soto of the Mets, Freeman Betts,
o'tawny with the Dodgers, another Southern California team, Tatis and
(28:48):
Machado and San Diego. Houston's always got players, Atlanta's got acunya.
Like literally, if you picked teams to be good in baseball,
it would be Yankees, Dodgers, Braves, Houston, Cubs, Mets. You'd
want big markets. They've all got the best players. Kyle Tucker,
not Justin Sorry my bad to the Cubs. So I mean,
(29:10):
I just think things are cyclical. I think right now
the NBA got a huge break at the trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Butler to the Warriors, totally.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Different franchise today eight and one with Jimmy Butler and
Luca to the Lakers. And I said this three weeks
ago and I'll say it again. It is crazy. The
Lakers got Kobe from Charlotte for Vlade divots, who wasn't
an All Star. They got Shack from Orlando for a
(29:40):
bunch of parts. They got Pow Gasol from Memphis for
some draft picks and Mark Gasol, and they got Luca
from the Mavericks for a d at thirty two years old,
Max Chris Christi and a pick four times, and the
Lakers it's never been just about getting stars. The Lakers
(30:02):
have always gotten the right star. The Clippers are desperate,
they go get James Harden, not very likable, and Kawhi
Leonard rarely available. So for the Clippers it's just about, hey,
can we get a star in the building, and that
was a big deal for them. The Lakers have always
been about we're not desperate here, We're going to get
the right star. And even Ad who's a very good player,
(30:24):
Luke is the better star. He's younger, more of an initiator,
more offensively gifted, not very good defensively, but does I
think fit Lebron going forward better. So it's an exciting time.
Tonight they play the Pelicans. Lebron will score is fifty
thousand and then point and I will say this is
that the one For years and years Lebron played in
(30:46):
the East and dominated the East. The West is better
and deeper. I've never quite figured out why the West
for probably thirty straight years. That doesn't mean they've always
had a champion. Celtics won last year. The West is
always better than the East. Guests better owners, better brands,
better gms.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't know what it is, but Lebron.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
If you take Lebron out of the East for about
a twelve year period, it was bad, Like it just
wasn't good at all. Now Lebron is aged, He's still great,
but it's just tougher. Golden State's reel, Okase's reel. I mean,
you know, Denver still a championship level team. They're not
as deep as they were three years ago, still very good.
(31:25):
So tonight's the Pelicans. Then it gets right now the
playoff standings in the West, thunder ever in the one
can you believe that Lakers two, Nuggets three. I mean,
I'm not counting the Grizzlies and the Rockets, who I
think are too young. They're four and five, Warriors six.
I can't take the Clippers seriously.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
So it's.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
If the playoffs started today. Boy, you've got a lot
of You've got NBA got really lucky with the Jimmy Butler,
Luca moves really fortunate.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Hey, ed, let me quick, Can I go back to
say one? Barkley interesting?
Speaker 7 (31:56):
Some guys are some of the cap guys are noticing stuff.
Derrick Henry is on a two year, sixteen million dollar deal.
Saquon Barkley is now on a two year, forty one
million dollar deal.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Colin, that's kind of jarring.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
It's almost like the momentum is turned toward running backs.
Does Derrick Henry now say, hey, guys, come on, is
Saquon Barkley more than two times the running back?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I am, well, he's better than Henry. I'm not sure
he's that much better. We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
It is, I heard
Hosts And Creators
Colin Cowherd
Jason McIntyre
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.