March 6, 2025 • 27 mins
Chris Broussard joins The Herd to talk to Colin about where to put Steph Curry among the all time greats, the Lakers chances, how good the Celtics look, and more
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Turn on the news. This is the Herd Line News.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Let's bust right into it.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
The Steelers have a big quarterback decision to make sounds
like it's gonna be Justin Fields over Russell Wilson's and
guess what, Big Ben.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I guess he's got a podcast, because everybody does.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Big Ben has said, I agree that Field should be
the starter next season.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I'd like to see what Fields can do in another
year of that offense. Like you know, Lake go whether
you want to bring someone else in, but let's see
what he can do in the second year of an offense,
because there's some familiarity. He's had a new system every year,
like he may be more comfortable. Yeah, obviously we're not
taking into account contracts and all that kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Stuff, but I'm with you. I'd like to.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
See what Fields could do another year. Some of the
mobility stuff would be interesting. I know he's got a
good arm, and again, not take anything away from Ross,
but it feels like the fields could be the pick
of the future.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know, Listen, it's easy to say we've seen Fields,
but Baker had a reboot. He's a different quarterback. Sam
had a great year, Gino Smith did, so I always
kind of felt you got one chance to be a quarterback.
If it didn't work, I'm out. But I mean, Gino
Smith was buried and he got to a Pro Bowl
and won ten games. And I'm not a huge Geno fan,
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but if that's it, if Justin Field could give you that, Okay,
it's a playoff team. So people buried Baker and Darnald.
Nobody thought Darnold was gonna do that. So my question
isn't Justin Field as much as it is I don't
trust the Steelers with offense if you gave him. I mean, seriously,
Chicago's a defensive organization. Pittsburgh's a defensive organization. I don't
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think this is the best fit for.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
So last year it seemed like just looking at the
box scores, Mike Tomlin's strategy was We're gonna win with
defense and no mistakes by fields, no turnovers, keep it simple.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
He threw for a buck fifty six in.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
The opener, one hundred and seventeen in the next game,
and two other games throwing for under one hundred and
fifty yards. You can't do that over the course of
a season in the modern NFL. Now you need to
be able to air it out. I don't can Field
do that?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Can he throw for two hundred and fifty yards three weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
In a row and not not with the Steelers lack
of offensive proficiency, No, he can't. Again, Gino had the
right coordinator and it worked. And I mean, we've seen
three different guys here in the last couple of years
that we thought were dead and buried. Baker, Sam and
Gino all turned it around. But Baker got Sean mcvata
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buy in right then he got that was it, Liam
Cohen a good coin, Sam Darnold at Kevin O'Connell so
and and I forget who Geno, I don't know Shane Walder,
and I forget who was it might have been. But
I don't think that I don't think the Steelers are
capable of elevating a quarterback who needs the right fit
to work.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Speaking of fits, let's go to the next story. The
New England Patriots have Mike Rabel as their head coach.
And you're very stoked about this. You're all aboard, yep,
the Patriots train.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I hate to rein on your parade, but Albert Breer
believes the Patriots have a lot of work to do. Listen,
here's why.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
They are so far behind the rest of the league
in so many different ways. And I think everybody who
comes here and sees it for themselves is like, where's
all the people, where's this department, where's that department? And
builded so much for so long that they were able
to get away with being very very small here. People say, oh,
you had these free agents and then it'll just be fixed. No,
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They've got a long way to go as far as
building that organization, out, building the football operation out to
catch up with where the Niners are, the Rams are,
the Ravens are, the Eagles are the most forward thinking
organizations in the league.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Are so far beyond them. From a staff standpoint, this
is really interesting. This is a really interesting topic. I
had this discussion the other day with somebody that knows
the NBA. For instance, the Golden State Warriors have a
huge staff, huge staff, Joe lakeam. The Lakers don't. It's
more of a family business. And there's some people that
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believe the Lakers after making that move to get Mark Williams,
the Center got some pushback. People called him around the
league and said and then they did more homework on
it and said, yeah, well he didn't pass the medical,
which you can legally do. But the Lakers have a
very small staff. Cincinnati has a very small scouting staff
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compared to Philadelphia. Arizona's staff is not close to San Francisco.
So you know, a lot of this stuff, you just
think everybody's even Belichick had so much power that basically
he usurped anybody else in the personnel department. So they
are a mile behind the Philadelphia has just got go
look at the Bengals website and the Philadelphia Eagles website.
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It is shocked. One looks like a Triple A baseball team.
One looks like the Yankees in terms of scouting and
personnel department.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So I know you've been claiming the Patriots are going
to be a playoff team, now, does this make you
pump the brakes out a little bit?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, because I think Brable's better than average at personnel,
and I think their needs are so obvious that it
doesn't take you know, it doesn't take Bill Gates' mind
to figure it out. They have two or three clear
needs left tackle, running back, wide receiver, edge like they
have very defined needs. And I think this is a
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draft of largely second and third round talent. I don't
think it's a draft where it's like you got twelve
fifteen great players and then it drops off. I think
there's a lot. I think the twenty seventh pick in
this draft could be as good as the fifth. I
think it's a I think the first three rounds it's
the same level of guys with about seven exceptions.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
My final story con is to the NBA and the Mavericks.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Oh my gosh, what a debacle Dallas has been since
trading Luka. Doncic Ad got hurt in Game one and
has not played since, and now the Kyrie towards ACL.
There's a report from Sham's Sharania claiming eighty could be
shut down for the rest of the season not to
risk further injury. Now there is the idea, Hey, if
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we shut down eighty along with Kyrie being out, we're
in the mix to get the number one pick. They
won't have a great chance at it, but they'll have
a chance at Cooper Flagg Colin I this is not
the worst idea in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Hey, Ad, just shut it down.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Don't let me take some If let's say they got lucky.
This is a really interesting topic too. Let's say the
Mavericks got lucky to get bad. They shut down Kyrie Ady,
they shut him down. That is really smart, because what
would make you forget about Luca getting a top fight?
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I watched Orlando went back to back lotteries. Yeah, if
they won the lottery and got Cooper Flag Kyrie Cooper Flag,
a D in the best center rotation in the league.
You are a dominant team in the NBA. You are
a You are a championship level team for half a decade.
So because I still think a D no that the
best game plan for them, maybe I think this is
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really smart. I would shut down Ad.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Well, do you remember when Kyrie came over and it
wasn't really working with him and Luca and they just
decided to tank.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
This try to pick.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
They end up with Derek Lively, which worked out amazingly.
He's excellent. I don't think they.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Can get high good enough odds for Cooper Flag. But
there's the kid Bailey at Rutgers. There's a lot of
good players.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
I've been at.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Cooper Flag's gonna he's gonna average eighteen as a rookie.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
He'll play, He'll be like an eighteen and nine.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah. He Cooper Flagg is gonna come in. You have
you watch a little bit of Cooper Flag.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
He's he is a package.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I mean he can score inside transition jumper. That kid
is a great college.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Don't forget he went to the USA Basketball camp ahead
of the Olympics and his team pushed the AD team.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
He was guarding ad.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
You can watch highlights like he's that good.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
He can hang with these guys. This guy's a game changer.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
J Mack with a news.
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Speaker 7 (08:34):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I want to bring in Chris Brussard live in New York,
joining us my guy Chriss. First things, first game, so
our graphic department was pretty funny. Today. We're gonna bring
this back and show you. I always said, I always
said that there's three names that are etched in stone
on Mount Rushmore, Kareem, mj Lebron and Magic. But we
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brought a scaffold in the crane. Is Steph Curry?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
With how he's aging? Are we should he be in
the conversation because I don't think Magic, a non shooter
and a shooter's era would be as good today, he'd
be really, really good. I don't know if he'd be Magic,
But I always thought Jordan, Kareem Lebron, we're not arguing.
You can argue Duncan Bird. I never thought magic was
an argument. But I'm watching every time he's had a
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legit one or two Clay and his prime KD, Jimmy Butler.
The guy's absolutely unstoppable. Where are you on Steph's legacy
at this point?
Speaker 8 (09:37):
Well, I've said for years now that he's a top
ten player of all time. Yeah, I think I first
said it after he won his fourth ring without Durant,
second without Durant and if the Mount Rushmore is greatest player,
like my top four is Jordan, Lebron, Kareem Magic in
that order.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Same.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
But I do think I don't.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
I think audience talk about Steph being in the go
conversation nonsense, and that's no slight on Steph. I believe
he's the best small player ever. It was Isaiah Thomas
in my mind, you know, from the Pistons. Now it's
been Stephan now for years. I think there is an
argument for him as the best point guard ever. I
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probably take Magic. Magic just you know, made everybody better.
They're completely different players. But if I think Magic, every
year you had Magic, you had a chance to win
the championship. I mean, he got to the finals without
Kareem and those guys, you know, once Kareem retired. But
if you wanted to start a top five, like a
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five man starting lineup to win a game or win
a championship, you could argue you could pick lineups where
you'd pick Steph over Magic because you have Lebron bring
the ball up or something like that. But I think
Magic is the best point guard in the league. But
I'll stand for I understand Steph's in the goat point
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guard conversation. Without question, Steph is not in the goat conversation.
The conversation is about who's the best ever, and I
just don't think you can realistically say Steph is the
best player ever. It's Michael Lebron or Kareem quickly Colin.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
All three of those guys defended.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
They all made multiple All Defensive teams.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Jordan, of course Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Steph was being hunted by the Calves in the finals,
so he was not a great defender, and that to me,
keeps him is one thing that keeps him out of
the goat conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I mean, I think Magic saved the league to some degree,
but Steph revolutionized it. But it doesn't make him the
best player ever. I agree with that. You know I
said this about and it's not a knock at all
on this, but in the nineteen seventies, my favorite teams
were the Sonics and their best player was Gus Williams
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Ever's nineteen a game when he won it, and the
Bullets with Greevy, Dan Rich Elvin Hayes West average nineteen
a game, he averaged nineteen. So those the seventies was
about roster construction. Then magic byrd MJ Shaq, Kobe Duncan,
Lebron Staff, then Dynasties took over. There was a two
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thousand and four Pistons team that, like the seventies, was
about roster construction over superstars. So I've made this argument
the Boston Celtics are the best roster construction champion ever,
better than any team in the seventies, better than the Pistons.
And last night's an example. Why no Drew, no Tatum,
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no Portzingis and two dudes dropped forty plus. There has
never been a roster construction team. Lonnie Shelton was not
giving you forty a downtown Freddie Brown and Gotts william
film play. So this is not a knock. But Tatum's
not a superstar. They're ten and two when he doesn't play,
the average eight bold points a game when he doesn't play.
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But but look at like like Rip Hamilton, He's better
than Rip or Chauncey Phillips. He's better than those guys.
He is the best player on the best constructed roster
that doesn't have a superstar.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
There you go, Wow, you said a lot there.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
I'll just look I think there's an argument for that
two thousand and four Detroit Piston seam as being, to
take your point, the best roster construction because they had
no superstars and they just fit together so perfectly, and
their mentalities were perfect as well. And obviously they beat
not only shacking Kobe. I get it was mainly shacking Kobe,
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but you still had Gary Payton and Carl Malone, and
I know they were older. It didn't quite work out
some of them. Malone was banged up, but still that's
a notch in their belt. But I also I think
Tatum is clearly a superstar. He leads the Celtics in points, rebounds,
and assist. The argument against Tatum, you know what a
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lot of people will say when they really get into basketball,
is that a lot of his moves are, you know,
manufactured moves. They're the moves you learn when you work
out with a trainer every day from the time you're
a teenager. They're not instinctive like the older guys moves
used to be.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Just make a move up because you need to do it.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
That's an argument against him, But look, this is a
great Celtics team. Pritchard and Derek White had great games
last night. They're not gonna do that consistently. With all
due respect to Pritchard, who's having a great year, might
be six Man of the Year, he's not gonna do
that consistently. This is just the league now, and they
are the ultimate poster child for this that shoots a
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bunch of threes.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Yeah, and their Knights.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
When you're gonna hit your threes and you can score
thirty or forty points, and that's what happened last night
with both of those guys.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
But they are well put together roster.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Particularly Colin, for this day and age and the style
of play and the rules today.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
So I did my NBA bubble. I don't buy Houston.
I don't think they have a chance to win the title.
They can't shoot. I don't buy Memphis either, a bit
too young. But I did my NBA bubble. The Knicks
are the closest team that if they got a little
bit of a health break and everybody was healthy, I
have them out. But what's interesting for our radio audience Nuggets, Okce, Warriors, Lakers.
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I think the two best teams in the league are
Boston and Cleveland. Those are the two best. But I
gotta tell you, I I'm almost shocked. I have the
Warriors in there. They're on fire without COAMINGA and I
don't think we're realizing here. They're more efficient. They do
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things that matter in the playoffs. Efficient, get to the
free throw line, defend experience with outcominga if do I
have the Warriors overvalued or do you similarly sees them
as a team that could absolutely win the Western Conference?
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Look, I said yesterday, I think the Lakers are winning
the West, and I feel good about that. But certainly
oksee and Denver right there, and I do think the
Warriors are the fourth team in the West, and I'll
give them a shot because everything you said was right.
They obviously have the shooting Jimmy Butler gives them some
things they did not have. They did not have the
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great mid range player, now they do. They did not
have the guy that gets to the foul line a lot.
Now they do. Now in addition to Draymond, they got
another tough, hard nosed guys that can bother opponents and
put a little bit of fear.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I mean their NBA players they're not scared, but you
know he can. He's a tough guy.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Jimmy Butler like Draymond, and that gives you a good
identity as well.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Defensively, they already were a good team.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Now they're gonna be even better with Butler, And you're
absolutely right, people are forgetting even though they're nine and
one now with Butler, Kaminga will be back, yes, and
he's athletic, he's long, he can score. They don't quite
have the shooting that they've had in some of the
years where they won championships, but they still have good shooting.
I give them a shot now again, I would pick
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the Lakers and probably Denver over them. Okay See is
certainly better. My question about OKAC is their youth. Colin
they would be the youngest team ever to reach or
win the NBA.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Finals, and I think that's a fact that we.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Just don't see young teams win championships. Last year, sure
they took some lumps when they lost to Dallas in
the second round, but that's.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
One year like they may need to.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
Jordan took longer, Isaiah took longer.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
You know, Lebron took long.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
You gotta take some lumps usually before you win in
this league, and I think okay See just had taken
enough so I'm fine with putting Golden State in there.
I would be a tad bit surprised if they do
come out of the West. But I do think they've
really improved themselves and they're gonna be a tough out
in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Okay, finally, I said this yesterday. Here's the upside to losing.
The Knicks can't beat Cleveland, Okse or Boston, and they
may not after tonight be able to beat the Lakers.
And I think this is great because where organizations get
in trouble is when people inside the executive suite the
owner disagree. They clearly they need another star. And I
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love Og and McHale and Brunson and Robinson, but they
need another star and nobody can argue it. In that building.
There is nobody saying we're good enough to win. You're
not good enough to beat Cleveland. I've watched it play Boston.
The game's over eight minutes. Ten I think, y'all, I'm
I think moving kat Og and four draft picks to
get Yannis is the move. I think you have to
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make a big swing. I wouldn't give up Brunson, I'd
move anybody. But they they've been very very patient the
last two years. Now, I'm just saying they have no
chance to get to the finals. You live in New York,
is do you think it's understood, because I think it's
very clear. Is they gotta get another guy. They're well run,
they got good chemistry. They're a big stud shy, right Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
I mean when they lost those two big blowouts to
Boston and Cleveland recently, that's when the Knicks fans accept it.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Okay, we're not on that level. They're right in between.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
They're better than, like you said, you had them right
outside the bubble. Yep, they're better than just about everybody
else outside of the bubble. But they can't beat the
teams in the bubble, right And as you said tonight,
I think they'd be zero and eight if they lose tonight,
to the top two seeds in both conferences. Yes, I
love getting Giannis. I mean, who's gonna argue against that
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if they can do that? But look, and I hate
to say this, Colin because I have nothing but respect
for him known Thibadeau since he was a an assistant
with Jeff Van Gundy when.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
I was covering the team for the New York Times.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
But it might be they might need a coaching change,
and I know that's a risk because Timbodeau gets the most,
typically gets the most out of teams, but they and
getting rid of Tims would not be.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Because he can't coach. Obviously, he's a very good coach.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
I would look at it more as when Golden State
moved on from Mark Jackson. We've just hit the ceiling
with this guy, and is there someone else who can
bring us to another level.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
We've seen it this year. Look at Kenny Atkinson in Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Nobody thought Cleveland could do this, and he's he's taking
them to another level. You're somewhat seeing it in Detroit
with JB. Bickerstaff. He's doing a good job there as well,
And so that might be something. If they can't make
the big trade for a Yiannis or somebody like that,
then I think that might be what they need to
look at, because Colin to have two legitimate stars now,
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which they're doing Brunson and Towns, and some really good
role players around him. I mean, that's what teams are
made up of today. Nobody really has the three stars
for the most part is two stars and then players
that fit around him. And Unbi Bridges. I mean, heart,
these are some really good role play us. So if
they can't get a Yahannis or somebody like that, they,
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as much as I hate to say it, they might
have to look at do we need to make a
coaching change?
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Speaker 1 (22:46):
Depressing or hysterical, depending on your perspective.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
What State of the Union? What's that?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That was the old Trumpster of just cracking people.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I knew I was. I was watching Creighton Providence in
college basketball.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I guarantee you were. Sadly, I know you were watching that.
I watched some of the State of the Union.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Why uh, you know what.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I like a good circus. I like circh de sole,
I like our State of the Union. I like I
like a little chaos and uh, it just was a lot.
It was a lot of motion and a lot of
opinions and a lot of wait, wait, let.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Me let me write that down.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I like a circus in chaos, So I'll try to
bring that here in the coming week.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't know, I find I mean, people are freaking
out and I you know who knows. I Uh, it's
a spectacle right now. Our politics are aspectacle, regardless of
what side you're on. And most of my life I
thought I was pretty squarely in the middle. Uh, it
is just it's a circus.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
No shades of gray these days, gotta be black or white.
That's right, not allowed nuance out the window.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
How about Diana Russini came on earlier, and uh, I said,
you can't tell me there's no market for Aaron Rodgers.
Here's Diana.
Speaker 11 (23:54):
Every team that needs a quarterback right now has a
line out to every single available veteran quarterback at this moment,
because right now, no one can read the landscape well
because we don't know who's going where. You know, the
idea of Daniel Jones going to India's on the table.
Could he possibly go to Vegas? Right Chip Kelly, you
know he's gonna want a mobile quarterback. Could could justin
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fields leave Pittsburgh. Perhaps he can wind up in Vegas.
Maybe the Russell Wilson thing could perhaps turn into him
going to Las Vegas. All of this is on the
table and the teams are being really open about it.
No one's being coy like, ah, we got her eye
on just one guy. Everyone is saying the same thing
as which we've got to reach out to everyone because
we have no idea how this is gonna shake.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And she also talked about the Sam Darnald thing. Is
crazy is people want to pay wide receivers thirty and
forty million dollars and I'm told because he had two
bad games at the end against superior teams that there's
no market for Sam Donald. She talked about that.
Speaker 11 (24:53):
There's something about the way he lost those two games
that is really leaving a bad taste in the mouths
of these decision makes part of it is there's an
attitude of cee, we told you Donald, isn't that good?
That was just lightning the bottle. Things just lined up right.
You know, they were winning in certain games because of
certain situations. This isn't the real Sam Donald. I was
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really expecting Sam's market to be in the forties. I
do not predict it to be that. I think it's
going to be less than that. I think it's going
to be in the low thirties, possibly maybe even high twenties,
if Minnesota can get the kind of deal that they.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Want to get.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I mean, so she's saying that, basically, somebody may be
willing to pay Sam Donald slightly more than DK Metcalf.
I do not believe the Chargers are going to pay
for DK metcalf. I think if you look inside that building,
between Harbaugh and their general manager, there is a history
of not over spending on the perimeter. They'll spend money
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in the trenches. They'll spend money on a running back, quarterback, safety,
edge rusher. I don't think that everybody has the Chargers
in DK metcalf. I don't see it. I just do
not see it. That's me, now, you know. I put
it out there. You take swings. I may be totally wrong,
but that one, it may look like it fits Hardbaugh's history,
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John and Jim. If you look at their history, it's
not paying wide receivers of fortune. It's drafting, developing, and
getting the O line and D line in toughness.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Right, So what you're saying is you don't think the charger.
You think they get a little frugal.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think they get a tight end in the first round,
solving their tight end problem. I think they get a
running back in the third or fourth round, and in
this draft that's a starter. And then I think they
go and they've got a number two receiver and number three.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Ah, they gonna need a pass rusher. They just lost
mister both.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Well, they've got Khalil Mack and the kid from USC
so they got two very good pass rushers. They could
use another end. Khalil Mack's been unbelievable in the last
three years. He's been way better than I thought he
would be. I thought he was kind of walked.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yet, a little long in the tooth, as they say.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So a lot of people are the other day. Jerry
Seinfeld seventy still funny?
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Is he seventy? I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
He still looks great. Bill Maher's up there, still funny.
Age is just a number. Accept a wide receiver
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Let's bust right into it.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
The Steelers have a big quarterback decision to make sounds
like it's gonna be Justin Fields over Russell Wilson's and
guess what, Big Ben.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I guess he's got a podcast, because everybody does.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Big Ben has said, I agree that Field should be
the starter next season.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I'd like to see what Fields can do in another
year of that offense. Like you know, Lake go whether
you want to bring someone else in, but let's see
what he can do in the second year of an offense,
because there's some familiarity. He's had a new system every year,
like he may be more comfortable. Yeah, obviously we're not
taking into account contracts and all that kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Stuff, but I'm with you. I'd like to.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
See what Fields could do another year. Some of the
mobility stuff would be interesting. I know he's got a
good arm, and again, not take anything away from Ross,
but it feels like the fields could be the pick
of the future.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know, Listen, it's easy to say we've seen Fields,
but Baker had a reboot. He's a different quarterback. Sam
had a great year, Gino Smith did, so I always
kind of felt you got one chance to be a quarterback.
If it didn't work, I'm out. But I mean, Gino
Smith was buried and he got to a Pro Bowl
and won ten games. And I'm not a huge Geno fan,
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but if that's it, if Justin Field could give you that, Okay,
it's a playoff team. So people buried Baker and Darnald.
Nobody thought Darnold was gonna do that. So my question
isn't Justin Field as much as it is I don't
trust the Steelers with offense if you gave him. I mean, seriously,
Chicago's a defensive organization. Pittsburgh's a defensive organization. I don't
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think this is the best fit for.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
So last year it seemed like just looking at the
box scores, Mike Tomlin's strategy was We're gonna win with
defense and no mistakes by fields, no turnovers, keep it simple.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
He threw for a buck fifty six in.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
The opener, one hundred and seventeen in the next game,
and two other games throwing for under one hundred and
fifty yards. You can't do that over the course of
a season in the modern NFL. Now you need to
be able to air it out. I don't can Field
do that?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Can he throw for two hundred and fifty yards three weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
In a row and not not with the Steelers lack
of offensive proficiency, No, he can't. Again, Gino had the
right coordinator and it worked. And I mean, we've seen
three different guys here in the last couple of years
that we thought were dead and buried. Baker, Sam and
Gino all turned it around. But Baker got Sean mcvata
(02:57):
buy in right then he got that was it, Liam
Cohen a good coin, Sam Darnold at Kevin O'Connell so
and and I forget who Geno, I don't know Shane Walder,
and I forget who was it might have been. But
I don't think that I don't think the Steelers are
capable of elevating a quarterback who needs the right fit
to work.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Speaking of fits, let's go to the next story. The
New England Patriots have Mike Rabel as their head coach.
And you're very stoked about this. You're all aboard, yep,
the Patriots train.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I hate to rein on your parade, but Albert Breer
believes the Patriots have a lot of work to do. Listen,
here's why.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
They are so far behind the rest of the league
in so many different ways. And I think everybody who
comes here and sees it for themselves is like, where's
all the people, where's this department, where's that department? And
builded so much for so long that they were able
to get away with being very very small here. People say, oh,
you had these free agents and then it'll just be fixed. No,
(03:57):
They've got a long way to go as far as
building that organization, out, building the football operation out to
catch up with where the Niners are, the Rams are,
the Ravens are, the Eagles are the most forward thinking
organizations in the league.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Are so far beyond them. From a staff standpoint, this
is really interesting. This is a really interesting topic. I
had this discussion the other day with somebody that knows
the NBA. For instance, the Golden State Warriors have a
huge staff, huge staff, Joe lakeam. The Lakers don't. It's
more of a family business. And there's some people that
(04:32):
believe the Lakers after making that move to get Mark Williams,
the Center got some pushback. People called him around the
league and said and then they did more homework on
it and said, yeah, well he didn't pass the medical,
which you can legally do. But the Lakers have a
very small staff. Cincinnati has a very small scouting staff
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compared to Philadelphia. Arizona's staff is not close to San Francisco.
So you know, a lot of this stuff, you just
think everybody's even Belichick had so much power that basically
he usurped anybody else in the personnel department. So they
are a mile behind the Philadelphia has just got go
look at the Bengals website and the Philadelphia Eagles website.
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It is shocked. One looks like a Triple A baseball team.
One looks like the Yankees in terms of scouting and
personnel department.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So I know you've been claiming the Patriots are going
to be a playoff team, now, does this make you
pump the brakes out a little bit?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, because I think Brable's better than average at personnel,
and I think their needs are so obvious that it
doesn't take you know, it doesn't take Bill Gates' mind
to figure it out. They have two or three clear
needs left tackle, running back, wide receiver, edge like they
have very defined needs. And I think this is a
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draft of largely second and third round talent. I don't
think it's a draft where it's like you got twelve
fifteen great players and then it drops off. I think
there's a lot. I think the twenty seventh pick in
this draft could be as good as the fifth. I
think it's a I think the first three rounds it's
the same level of guys with about seven exceptions.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
My final story con is to the NBA and the Mavericks.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Oh my gosh, what a debacle Dallas has been since
trading Luka. Doncic Ad got hurt in Game one and
has not played since, and now the Kyrie towards ACL.
There's a report from Sham's Sharania claiming eighty could be
shut down for the rest of the season not to
risk further injury. Now there is the idea, Hey, if
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we shut down eighty along with Kyrie being out, we're
in the mix to get the number one pick. They
won't have a great chance at it, but they'll have
a chance at Cooper Flagg Colin I this is not
the worst idea in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Hey, Ad, just shut it down.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Don't let me take some If let's say they got lucky.
This is a really interesting topic too. Let's say the
Mavericks got lucky to get bad. They shut down Kyrie Ady,
they shut him down. That is really smart, because what
would make you forget about Luca getting a top fight?
(07:10):
I watched Orlando went back to back lotteries. Yeah, if
they won the lottery and got Cooper Flag Kyrie Cooper Flag,
a D in the best center rotation in the league.
You are a dominant team in the NBA. You are
a You are a championship level team for half a decade.
So because I still think a D no that the
best game plan for them, maybe I think this is
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really smart. I would shut down Ad.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Well, do you remember when Kyrie came over and it
wasn't really working with him and Luca and they just
decided to tank.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
This try to pick.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
They end up with Derek Lively, which worked out amazingly.
He's excellent. I don't think they.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Can get high good enough odds for Cooper Flag. But
there's the kid Bailey at Rutgers. There's a lot of
good players.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
I've been at.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Cooper Flag's gonna he's gonna average eighteen as a rookie.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
He'll play, He'll be like an eighteen and nine.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah. He Cooper Flagg is gonna come in. You have
you watch a little bit of Cooper Flag.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
He's he is a package.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I mean he can score inside transition jumper. That kid
is a great college.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Don't forget he went to the USA Basketball camp ahead
of the Olympics and his team pushed the AD team.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
He was guarding ad.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
You can watch highlights like he's that good.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
He can hang with these guys. This guy's a game changer.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
J Mack with a news.
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Speaker 7 (08:34):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I want to bring in Chris Brussard live in New York,
joining us my guy Chriss. First things, first game, so
our graphic department was pretty funny. Today. We're gonna bring
this back and show you. I always said, I always
said that there's three names that are etched in stone
on Mount Rushmore, Kareem, mj Lebron and Magic. But we
(08:58):
brought a scaffold in the crane. Is Steph Curry?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
With how he's aging? Are we should he be in
the conversation because I don't think Magic, a non shooter
and a shooter's era would be as good today, he'd
be really, really good. I don't know if he'd be Magic,
But I always thought Jordan, Kareem Lebron, we're not arguing.
You can argue Duncan Bird. I never thought magic was
an argument. But I'm watching every time he's had a
(09:25):
legit one or two Clay and his prime KD, Jimmy Butler.
The guy's absolutely unstoppable. Where are you on Steph's legacy
at this point?
Speaker 8 (09:37):
Well, I've said for years now that he's a top
ten player of all time. Yeah, I think I first
said it after he won his fourth ring without Durant,
second without Durant and if the Mount Rushmore is greatest player,
like my top four is Jordan, Lebron, Kareem Magic in
that order.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Same.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
But I do think I don't.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
I think audience talk about Steph being in the go
conversation nonsense, and that's no slight on Steph. I believe
he's the best small player ever. It was Isaiah Thomas
in my mind, you know, from the Pistons. Now it's
been Stephan now for years. I think there is an
argument for him as the best point guard ever. I
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probably take Magic. Magic just you know, made everybody better.
They're completely different players. But if I think Magic, every
year you had Magic, you had a chance to win
the championship. I mean, he got to the finals without
Kareem and those guys, you know, once Kareem retired. But
if you wanted to start a top five, like a
(10:40):
five man starting lineup to win a game or win
a championship, you could argue you could pick lineups where
you'd pick Steph over Magic because you have Lebron bring
the ball up or something like that. But I think
Magic is the best point guard in the league. But
I'll stand for I understand Steph's in the goat point
(11:01):
guard conversation. Without question, Steph is not in the goat conversation.
The conversation is about who's the best ever, and I
just don't think you can realistically say Steph is the
best player ever. It's Michael Lebron or Kareem quickly Colin.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
All three of those guys defended.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
They all made multiple All Defensive teams.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Jordan, of course Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Steph was being hunted by the Calves in the finals,
so he was not a great defender, and that to me,
keeps him is one thing that keeps him out of
the goat conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I mean, I think Magic saved the league to some degree,
but Steph revolutionized it. But it doesn't make him the
best player ever. I agree with that. You know I
said this about and it's not a knock at all
on this, but in the nineteen seventies, my favorite teams
were the Sonics and their best player was Gus Williams
(11:56):
Ever's nineteen a game when he won it, and the
Bullets with Greevy, Dan Rich Elvin Hayes West average nineteen
a game, he averaged nineteen. So those the seventies was
about roster construction. Then magic byrd MJ Shaq, Kobe Duncan,
Lebron Staff, then Dynasties took over. There was a two
(12:17):
thousand and four Pistons team that, like the seventies, was
about roster construction over superstars. So I've made this argument
the Boston Celtics are the best roster construction champion ever,
better than any team in the seventies, better than the Pistons.
And last night's an example. Why no Drew, no Tatum,
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no Portzingis and two dudes dropped forty plus. There has
never been a roster construction team. Lonnie Shelton was not
giving you forty a downtown Freddie Brown and Gotts william
film play. So this is not a knock. But Tatum's
not a superstar. They're ten and two when he doesn't play,
the average eight bold points a game when he doesn't play.
(13:04):
But but look at like like Rip Hamilton, He's better
than Rip or Chauncey Phillips. He's better than those guys.
He is the best player on the best constructed roster
that doesn't have a superstar.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
There you go, Wow, you said a lot there.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
I'll just look I think there's an argument for that
two thousand and four Detroit Piston seam as being, to
take your point, the best roster construction because they had
no superstars and they just fit together so perfectly, and
their mentalities were perfect as well. And obviously they beat
not only shacking Kobe. I get it was mainly shacking Kobe,
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but you still had Gary Payton and Carl Malone, and
I know they were older. It didn't quite work out
some of them. Malone was banged up, but still that's
a notch in their belt. But I also I think
Tatum is clearly a superstar. He leads the Celtics in points, rebounds,
and assist. The argument against Tatum, you know what a
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lot of people will say when they really get into basketball,
is that a lot of his moves are, you know,
manufactured moves. They're the moves you learn when you work
out with a trainer every day from the time you're
a teenager. They're not instinctive like the older guys moves
used to be.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Just make a move up because you need to do it.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
That's an argument against him, But look, this is a
great Celtics team. Pritchard and Derek White had great games
last night. They're not gonna do that consistently. With all
due respect to Pritchard, who's having a great year, might
be six Man of the Year, he's not gonna do
that consistently. This is just the league now, and they
are the ultimate poster child for this that shoots a
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bunch of threes.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Yeah, and their Knights.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
When you're gonna hit your threes and you can score
thirty or forty points, and that's what happened last night
with both of those guys.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
But they are well put together roster.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Particularly Colin, for this day and age and the style
of play and the rules today.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
So I did my NBA bubble. I don't buy Houston.
I don't think they have a chance to win the title.
They can't shoot. I don't buy Memphis either, a bit
too young. But I did my NBA bubble. The Knicks
are the closest team that if they got a little
bit of a health break and everybody was healthy, I
have them out. But what's interesting for our radio audience Nuggets, Okce, Warriors, Lakers.
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I think the two best teams in the league are
Boston and Cleveland. Those are the two best. But I
gotta tell you, I I'm almost shocked. I have the
Warriors in there. They're on fire without COAMINGA and I
don't think we're realizing here. They're more efficient. They do
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things that matter in the playoffs. Efficient, get to the
free throw line, defend experience with outcominga if do I
have the Warriors overvalued or do you similarly sees them
as a team that could absolutely win the Western Conference?
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Look, I said yesterday, I think the Lakers are winning
the West, and I feel good about that. But certainly
oksee and Denver right there, and I do think the
Warriors are the fourth team in the West, and I'll
give them a shot because everything you said was right.
They obviously have the shooting Jimmy Butler gives them some
things they did not have. They did not have the
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great mid range player, now they do. They did not
have the guy that gets to the foul line a lot.
Now they do. Now in addition to Draymond, they got
another tough, hard nosed guys that can bother opponents and
put a little bit of fear.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I mean their NBA players they're not scared, but you
know he can. He's a tough guy.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Jimmy Butler like Draymond, and that gives you a good
identity as well.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Defensively, they already were a good team.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Now they're gonna be even better with Butler, And you're
absolutely right, people are forgetting even though they're nine and
one now with Butler, Kaminga will be back, yes, and
he's athletic, he's long, he can score. They don't quite
have the shooting that they've had in some of the
years where they won championships, but they still have good shooting.
I give them a shot now again, I would pick
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the Lakers and probably Denver over them. Okay See is
certainly better. My question about OKAC is their youth. Colin
they would be the youngest team ever to reach or
win the NBA.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Finals, and I think that's a fact that we.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Just don't see young teams win championships. Last year, sure
they took some lumps when they lost to Dallas in
the second round, but that's.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
One year like they may need to.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
Jordan took longer, Isaiah took longer.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
You know, Lebron took long.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
You gotta take some lumps usually before you win in
this league, and I think okay See just had taken
enough so I'm fine with putting Golden State in there.
I would be a tad bit surprised if they do
come out of the West. But I do think they've
really improved themselves and they're gonna be a tough out
in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Okay, finally, I said this yesterday. Here's the upside to losing.
The Knicks can't beat Cleveland, Okse or Boston, and they
may not after tonight be able to beat the Lakers.
And I think this is great because where organizations get
in trouble is when people inside the executive suite the
owner disagree. They clearly they need another star. And I
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love Og and McHale and Brunson and Robinson, but they
need another star and nobody can argue it. In that building.
There is nobody saying we're good enough to win. You're
not good enough to beat Cleveland. I've watched it play Boston.
The game's over eight minutes. Ten I think, y'all, I'm
I think moving kat Og and four draft picks to
get Yannis is the move. I think you have to
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make a big swing. I wouldn't give up Brunson, I'd
move anybody. But they they've been very very patient the
last two years. Now, I'm just saying they have no
chance to get to the finals. You live in New York,
is do you think it's understood, because I think it's
very clear. Is they gotta get another guy. They're well run,
they got good chemistry. They're a big stud shy, right Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
I mean when they lost those two big blowouts to
Boston and Cleveland recently, that's when the Knicks fans accept it.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Okay, we're not on that level. They're right in between.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
They're better than, like you said, you had them right
outside the bubble. Yep, they're better than just about everybody
else outside of the bubble. But they can't beat the
teams in the bubble, right And as you said tonight,
I think they'd be zero and eight if they lose tonight,
to the top two seeds in both conferences. Yes, I
love getting Giannis. I mean, who's gonna argue against that
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if they can do that? But look, and I hate
to say this, Colin because I have nothing but respect
for him known Thibadeau since he was a an assistant
with Jeff Van Gundy when.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
I was covering the team for the New York Times.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
But it might be they might need a coaching change,
and I know that's a risk because Timbodeau gets the most,
typically gets the most out of teams, but they and
getting rid of Tims would not be.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Because he can't coach. Obviously, he's a very good coach.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
I would look at it more as when Golden State
moved on from Mark Jackson. We've just hit the ceiling
with this guy, and is there someone else who can
bring us to another level.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
We've seen it this year. Look at Kenny Atkinson in Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Nobody thought Cleveland could do this, and he's he's taking
them to another level. You're somewhat seeing it in Detroit
with JB. Bickerstaff. He's doing a good job there as well,
And so that might be something. If they can't make
the big trade for a Yiannis or somebody like that,
then I think that might be what they need to
look at, because Colin to have two legitimate stars now,
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which they're doing Brunson and Towns, and some really good
role players around him. I mean, that's what teams are
made up of today. Nobody really has the three stars
for the most part is two stars and then players
that fit around him. And Unbi Bridges. I mean, heart,
these are some really good role play us. So if
they can't get a Yahannis or somebody like that, they,
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as much as I hate to say it, they might
have to look at do we need to make a
coaching change?
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chop it up, as they say.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
I'd say, the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio,
maybe the.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Most interactive show on planetar.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app from five to
seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific, And if you
miss any of the live show, just search Covino and
Rich wherever you get your podcasts, and of course on
social media that's Covino and Rich.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Depressing or hysterical, depending on your perspective.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
What State of the Union? What's that?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That was the old Trumpster of just cracking people.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I knew I was. I was watching Creighton Providence in
college basketball.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I guarantee you were. Sadly, I know you were watching that.
I watched some of the State of the Union.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Why uh, you know what.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I like a good circus. I like circh de sole,
I like our State of the Union. I like I
like a little chaos and uh, it just was a lot.
It was a lot of motion and a lot of
opinions and a lot of wait, wait, let.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Me let me write that down.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I like a circus in chaos, So I'll try to
bring that here in the coming week.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't know, I find I mean, people are freaking
out and I you know who knows. I Uh, it's
a spectacle right now. Our politics are aspectacle, regardless of
what side you're on. And most of my life I
thought I was pretty squarely in the middle. Uh, it
is just it's a circus.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
No shades of gray these days, gotta be black or white.
That's right, not allowed nuance out the window.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
How about Diana Russini came on earlier, and uh, I said,
you can't tell me there's no market for Aaron Rodgers.
Here's Diana.
Speaker 11 (23:54):
Every team that needs a quarterback right now has a
line out to every single available veteran quarterback at this moment,
because right now, no one can read the landscape well
because we don't know who's going where. You know, the
idea of Daniel Jones going to India's on the table.
Could he possibly go to Vegas? Right Chip Kelly, you
know he's gonna want a mobile quarterback. Could could justin
(24:17):
fields leave Pittsburgh. Perhaps he can wind up in Vegas.
Maybe the Russell Wilson thing could perhaps turn into him
going to Las Vegas. All of this is on the
table and the teams are being really open about it.
No one's being coy like, ah, we got her eye
on just one guy. Everyone is saying the same thing
as which we've got to reach out to everyone because
we have no idea how this is gonna shake.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And she also talked about the Sam Darnald thing. Is
crazy is people want to pay wide receivers thirty and
forty million dollars and I'm told because he had two
bad games at the end against superior teams that there's
no market for Sam Donald. She talked about that.
Speaker 11 (24:53):
There's something about the way he lost those two games
that is really leaving a bad taste in the mouths
of these decision makes part of it is there's an
attitude of cee, we told you Donald, isn't that good?
That was just lightning the bottle. Things just lined up right.
You know, they were winning in certain games because of
certain situations. This isn't the real Sam Donald. I was
(25:15):
really expecting Sam's market to be in the forties. I
do not predict it to be that. I think it's
going to be less than that. I think it's going
to be in the low thirties, possibly maybe even high twenties,
if Minnesota can get the kind of deal that they.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Want to get.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I mean, so she's saying that, basically, somebody may be
willing to pay Sam Donald slightly more than DK Metcalf.
I do not believe the Chargers are going to pay
for DK metcalf. I think if you look inside that building,
between Harbaugh and their general manager, there is a history
of not over spending on the perimeter. They'll spend money
(25:48):
in the trenches. They'll spend money on a running back, quarterback, safety,
edge rusher. I don't think that everybody has the Chargers
in DK metcalf. I don't see it. I just do
not see it. That's me, now, you know. I put
it out there. You take swings. I may be totally wrong,
but that one, it may look like it fits Hardbaugh's history,
(26:08):
John and Jim. If you look at their history, it's
not paying wide receivers of fortune. It's drafting, developing, and
getting the O line and D line in toughness.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Right, So what you're saying is you don't think the charger.
You think they get a little frugal.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think they get a tight end in the first round,
solving their tight end problem. I think they get a
running back in the third or fourth round, and in
this draft that's a starter. And then I think they
go and they've got a number two receiver and number three.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Ah, they gonna need a pass rusher. They just lost
mister both.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Well, they've got Khalil Mack and the kid from USC
so they got two very good pass rushers. They could
use another end. Khalil Mack's been unbelievable in the last
three years. He's been way better than I thought he
would be. I thought he was kind of walked.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yet, a little long in the tooth, as they say.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So a lot of people are the other day. Jerry
Seinfeld seventy still funny?
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Is he seventy? I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
He still looks great. Bill Maher's up there, still funny.
Age is just a number. Accept a wide receiver
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