March 6, 2025 • 41 mins
C&R have fun talking NFL offseason! Would any other team be willing to give Brock Purdy what the Niners will need to shell out? With the Bengals defensive star Trey Hendrickson being the latest to the list of star player requesting trades, what gives? The guys debate how to handle the player's power. Plus, 'OLD-SCHOOL WHEN 50 HITS' honors a B-Ball legend's B-Day!
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Let's go all right, where do we start? It's a
very special day. Rich is somebody's birthday. Whose birthday is it?
We'll explain, and we're gonna throw a birthday old school
when fifty hits. Actually, I know who you're thinking of.
You know who else's birthday? It is someone I think
you love even more. You're thinking of a legend in
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the sports world. It's also since sy John Creese's birthday,
Martin Cove is seventy nine. Oh yeah, you're a feisty
old man. But I like that Cobra cuh, I like that.
Have mercy now that's actually Jesse Castopolos. No hair, no
mercy is what I meant to say. So anyway, I'm Cavino.
That is Rich. Happy birthday to Martin Cove and to
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someone else in the world of sports. Happy boy said,
we'll celebrate and throw it back when fifty hits, and
we get you involved with phone calls. At eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox, we got to talk Russell
Westbrook a little bit, just a little bituse I thought
he did something really cool, something that not that I
ever had a bad opinion of him, but made me
like him more. Touched your puddles on a little touch
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might go to son. Got to talk about your Boy,
Debo and more lots to get to On today's show,
I want to start out by a headline I saw,
and just to show you the money these athletes make
nowadays sounds like something a boomer would say, right, the
money these athletes make nowadays. That just the headline's funny
(02:30):
when you see the headline that says forty nine ers
lowball rock Party, starting at forty five million a year,
And just think of that number, lowballing. That sounds just
about right. Low balling at forty five million a year,
that's a low ball number. I guess when you think
you're making fifty to sixty with I think I'm just
saying that sounds fair, right. Oh, I agree, they'll probably
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give him more than that. But if anyone thinks that's
a lowball starting point, I'm gonna say, keep in mind,
it's called the negotiation, right, So who in any negotiations
starts high. No, he's got to be a little back
and forth. Your boss doesn't say, here's all the money
we're wheeling out for you. You have to negotiate for that, right, right.
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So I think it's a fair starting point. I do.
I don't think he's worth much more. Than that, especially
if you're on a nice team behind him. Well what
if my grandfather used to tell me about baseball cards,
and it applies to everything in life. They're worthless, switchy. No, No,
They're only worth what someone's willing to give you for them. Yeah,
but Grandpa, hoh, they can think of the rated rookie
is worth eighty five dollars, all richie boy, who's gonna
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give you eighty five dollars? Well, I don't know, grandpa,
but you'll see no one. I'm just saying. If the
Niners Billy Ripkins the error card, it's worth thirty five dollars. Grandpa.
It's a fas with an infinity on it. Oh, so
with the baseball card theory, I just look at it
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as well. Who's gonna give Brack pretty more than forty
five to fifty million dollars a year? If you say
the Niners say, all right, four years one eighty five,
like a little more than forty five year one, you know,
four years one ninety. If he's between forty and fifty
million dollars a year, you don't think they can negotiate
(04:18):
and settle on a sweet fifty. That's like four years
two Hundo a little in between. He wants sixty, they
want forty. They meet in the middle of fifty. If
brock Purty gets four years two hundred, I think most
people would be happy. But you got to ask yourself
if the Niners don't. It goes with dating, it goes
(04:39):
to work, it goes with baseball cards, it goes with
everything in life. Your only the market will dictate what
you're worth. Right, You're only worth what people are willing
to pay. You'll you'll think I'm the hottest commodity. You know,
going a dating ap, they'll tell you if you're a
hot commodity. Go to a bar. You'll see who hits
on you. You'll see who gives you their number, who
trades DMS with you. You're the mark. It tells you.
(05:00):
The dating world tells you. Your boss will tell you,
because if you don't like what you're getting paid and
you think you're worth more, someone else will give it
to you. But I got to ask the question, who's
gonna give brock Party fifty five sixty million dollars a year?
If the Niners say, yeah, we're not doing that, is
some team gonna be like, we desperately need brock Listen.
I love rock Party, but he's not Mahomes. He's not
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Josh Allen or Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson. That's not
He's that next year solid quarterback that's doing well for
this team. Will that translate on another team? That's the
other risk that a team would have to take, and
that he would have to take. You see that buyer.
I'd want to stay there at a sweet fifty, you
see anything as close as possible to fifty, just because
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I know I fit in here and I'm welcomed here.
You see that clickbait stuff that's been going around the
last couple of days. Where are the Titans interested in
brock Party? And I'm like, you know what if you
want to pay brock Party. Yeah, but it's not always that.
I don't want to put ourselves in awkward situation rich
because I would like to negotiate some day. But you
(06:04):
have to factor in, like, let's say someone offered us
more money. Are they gonna still let us do what
we do? Are we gonna be as happy else? There's
so many other factors. Is he gonna shine as bright
somewhere else and fit into the system the way he
does in San Francisco. These are things he needs to
keep in mind. It's not always about chasing the bag,
because he can go to Tennessee or somewhere else and
(06:26):
stink it up and his career's down the drain. Chasing
your bad So many times it's like, dude, you're playing good,
you know, stay there. If you're happy and you're playing
well and they're being fair, that's the thing. And I
think sometimes that only comes with wisdom. Sure i'd want
to get paid more, but I would factor in. But
I'm very happy where I'm at, And like I said,
I want to get in our own way and then
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have Fox Sports say, well, then here's this right now,
don't show you don't play your don't show us your hand.
You don't want to show all your hand. But that's
the truth. If you're happy where you're at, you got
to factor that into the equation. I'm not sure. I'm
sure brock Perty can go somewhere else and light it up.
And with all these big deals you saw Max Crosby
get paid yesterday, Danny g and the Raider is nation
very happy, there is a layer where once you make
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a certain amount of money, And again I'm not spending
nothing bothers me more when other people spend your money,
like mentally like you should do this, you should do
this when you say, why would the athlete take more
money to go there? Listen, some people really are just
about the money. But when you're making forty to fifty
sixty million dollars a year, it's not like five million
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dollars more is gonna make you happy? You have so
much money? Is there all those studies that show like
once you hit a certain level of wealth, you're not
happier if you make more than that. Ask Jim Carrey,
your hero. He always told a seeing the top of
the mountain, He's seeing the top of the mountain, and
it's not always cracked up to be. Like danyg brought
up recently, that was the Aaron Rodgers story. He won
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the Super Bowl. That was his lifelong drink as a
kid playing football growing up. That was the goal. Once
he got there and won, it's like, all right, well,
what else is going to make me happy? An extra
five million dollars rich is not going to make brock
Purty happier. Him playing well, being embraced by the fans
and the team. That's where it's at. So you find
a compromise, you settle at. They're offering forty five a year, Yeah,
(08:21):
anything close to fifty. Take it the reality. If it
was a game ghetto, if it was like dealer, No,
the obvious you take you dage day ag in. It
seems obvious, right. But when you think about how we
talk about these big numbers, put a perspective. Someone that
makes give me a good round number. You know a
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guy that makes one hundred thousand dollars doing a sales job. Okay,
one hundred thousand dollars, he would work twenty years to
make two million dollars. Put a perspective. You talk about
someone someone makes half a million dollars and they're you know, balling.
You know, they're the VP of the company making half
a millionllion dollars. It would take them forty years to
(09:05):
make twenty million dollars. It's about fair, though, rich, It's
about fair or not. Can't compare brock Party in his
career in professional sports to anyone else. No fair, and
it does it sounds fair. I know you're saying you
can't compare, But what I'm saying is one year Rock
Party making fifty million dollars after taxes, agent fees, all that.
Let's say he comes away with twenty something mill Twenty
(09:26):
something million dollars is probably ten times more than most
people will make in their whole life. Yeah, sad. So
with that said, happiness where you'll win, all these other
things have to play a role. And if brock Party
is not a flashy guy and he's a humble guy,
(09:46):
Let's say he buys a house in the Bay Area
or wherever he wants to live, a five to ten
million dollar house. He could pay paid in cash and
still be like, yeah, I'm good for the rest of
my life. No one's gonna say poor brock Party. Look
at him.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
He's not OnlyFans now, he's gonna be just also a
big part of your happiness. For us, it's our bosses
and who we work for. In the NFL, it's your
coach's coaching staff, especially your head coach, your offensive coordinator
in his case, you know, a defensive coordinator for like
Kendrickson and in Cincy. If he leaves and goes elsewhere, okay,
but are you going to get along with the coaches
(10:18):
the way you do in Cincinnati?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, coaches that believed in him and banked on him,
like Brock party. I'm not saying he owes anything to
John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan, but they certainly had his
back to get him to this point exactly. That's all
we we can move on to. Well, it's interesting because
he's a very specific story though too rich. Yeah, I
just saw the headline as I walked in the studio.
This is not what I planned on starting with, but
(10:41):
I saw the headline. It said Rock Purty getting lowballed.
And I'm like, when you tell me that this guy's
going to probably end up with four years, a couple
hundred million dollars, that's the low ball. Like these guys
are living in a fantasy lowball. He was mister irrelevant.
That's great, And this is this great story continues as
far as I see it. To me, when you talk
about people winning the power ball, Yes, this is incredible.
(11:04):
This is the continuation of an incredible story. He's getting
what That's great. Take it, Brock, you're the man. And
Tom Brady historically has been known to be the guy
that takes a little less money for the greater good.
And look what it got him, more contracts, longevity, by
the way, championships, that's how you do it. You follow
(11:24):
the blueprint. There's not necessarily a blueprint in life, right,
but Tom Brady did leave a pretty nice blueprint on
how to win. And if that's how he did it,
and he's one of the goats, is brock Party better
than Tom Brady? I don't think so. In fact, I
know so, so I would say that's great footsteps to follow. Now,
talking about the NFL, let's pivot. Pivot. You don't watch Friends.
(11:49):
You never saw that, you know, I know the reference,
though not a Bozoe give. You know, it's too busy
getting booty when everyone else was watching Friends in the
night and I know they were carrying a couch up
the steps. What would he do? I've seen it? Well,
bit he'd do, I've seen it, Pimott. Let's pivot to
the bigger stories in the NFL, in my opinion, which
is all these superstars demanding trades or asking their team like,
(12:14):
y'all you gotta trade me, Deebo, Samuel DK Metcalf, Trey Hendrickson.
These are Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett, these are big name guys.
And you saw it in the NBA Jimmy Butler is
the new way in sports. If you're a superstar, if
you just part of my language, if you just bitch
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and complain enough, is that your way to get what
you want? Like, don't we teach our kids the opposite?
Like like that would be like telling your kids, like,
stop crying and I'll get your basket, Robins, you want
to go to Coldstone Creamery, simmer down? Like that's bad parenting.
We're giving it to bad parenting. Bitch and complain, my
dad would say, bitch and moan moaning? Is that is
(12:57):
that the way? It's been the way for a minute now? No,
I don't think if this is anything new. It's a
matter of do you give in to it or not?
And the phrase of the years could be I look
at it this way. If there a discrauntled employee, get
then beat it. It's like Aaron Judge recently said, when
asked about the facial hair right, the facial hair change,
(13:18):
I already has a fou manchew. No, is that true? No,
he said he's choosing to not have facial hair at
least for now. He does in the off season, but
he said, look the greats before me did it that
way in respect to them and the traditions, you know,
I'm fine with them, cool with it, he said, But
if that was the determining factor of you wanting to
play here or not, then maybe you shouldn't play here. Like,
(13:40):
if that's really what it means to you, Like, then
you're not thinking big picture of what it really means
to play for this team, then you don't want to
be on this team anyway. Even Johnny Damon said that recently.
He's like, yo, man, I loved my beard, but I
wanted to play for the Yankees. If you really want
to play for that team, you're not going to act
this way. So as an owner who's paying you ridiculous money,
(14:04):
I would take the approach of, like, then beat it.
I'm saying, if you're on a relationship who's acting a
whole hum about you, it's like, I know it's it's
easier said than done, but it's like, well, if you
don't want to be with me, I want to be
with someone that wants to be with me, So then
go in and see if the grass is greener. And
that's what these owners are doing. And I'm glad it's
not a matter of them giving in. It's a matter
of them saying no, beat it, I get out of
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my face. I see what you're saying. But I know
we've always heard the phrase squeaky wheel gets the oil
that goes back generations, right, Like, YO, complain enough that
you know you'll get attention. I hate it, Richard, but
it's true. I know what you're saying. You're saying, Yo,
you don't want to be in this marriage or relationship,
or you don't want to be at this company, or
you don't want to be part of this radio show
(14:46):
or TV show. If you don't want to be here,
get out. There's the door. But that's the reality. There's contracts, dude,
like a guy if you're telling me, DK Metcalf just
is like, yeah, I'm sort of done. Okay, he dictate
this Fox Sports Nation. If you're a small business owner,
pretend you are. If you're not, you have a disgruntled employee.
(15:08):
He can't be replaced. Beat it. You want that guy
working for your company when you're trying to put a
good product out there. That's really what this is. On
a grander scale, contract or not. If this guy's unhappy,
he's not producing for you, You want a sour Jimmy Butler
in your locker room, bringing down the vibe of everybody.
I know it's sad to say, well, then that player
(15:29):
wins because they pout and they get what they want.
But is that what you want as an owner? How
would you handle it then? Because I would be like,
then then get go go. You know what, what everything
you're saying, hope that karma gets that. I don't disagree
with you. I know, I don't think they're supposed to do.
It sucks because what you're saying is, if you're a
big enough star, pout and get what you want, and
(15:51):
then just what I agree you're saying, if you're I
look at it as I'm hoping the other owners see
the attitude and the type of character this person has,
because what do you think that guy is going to
change all of a sudden because he's somewhere else. No,
because eventually he's gonna get to another place and pout again.
And then again that's just the way someone is at
that point. So they're basically advertising like, hey, I'm a
(16:12):
problem person. I'm problematic. I'm really they're holding up side
being difficult. I'm not being a sour forty nine ercent.
But I have said to you guys, what did I
say all last year? I said, yeah, I love Deebo,
but it seems like he's his vibes are off, I
said last year, I said, dee Ba doesn't have that smile,
he's not But.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Then you threw him a pass on our Super Bowl stage.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, but you don't know what we're downplaying. I was
the reason. I was like, you know what, I'm knowing
this guy. There's a reason that we Covino and Rich
have some longevity. It's not because we're the greatest broadcaster.
I like to think that, hey, we're entertaining, right, but
we're easy to work with. I think that's very undermined
(16:52):
and downplayed in life and in sports. You know these guys.
There's so many players that were great, but they were difficult.
L Lowens comes to mind. He could have still played.
He just was a headache. After a while, people stop
wanting to work with you. I know people in my
life that are super talented, but guess what, they're not
working and they're not finding jobs. You know why the
foot gold So as an owner, you've had enough of
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this guy, right, this guy, this guy doesn't make or
break your organization. Guess what the Bengals go on with
or without this dude, right, And he's advertising he's difficult,
so yes, someone else will pick him up, but he's
going to be difficult somewhere else. If but COVI.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You know what if a player does it respectfully, Like
we don't know how Hendrickson is handling this in Cincinnati,
maybe he went to the owner and the general manager
in a respectful way and said.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, that's different. Yeah I did different on.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But he's not going through the media and he's not pouting,
and he's not.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But still saying I don't want to play here. You're
never going to get the production out of that dude
that you're paying him for. Like I said, I hate
to bring it back to relationships. If there's a woman
in your life and I've been there, I've been through
divorce and everything else, and she's like, I don't want
to be here anymore, you're never going to get that
production out of her. If she doesn't want to be
(18:08):
in this relationship, that it's not a mutual respect at
that point. You know, if you know a player on
your team or an employee of your company is out
the minute their contractor agreement is up. They got to
be in at meant then you're just short abiding time,
Like you know, that's why a lot of times contracts
(18:28):
they'll open up early and be like, yeah, you know what,
we'll buy you ad or get out of here, because
you're right, it's you know, like your senior year. How
towards the end you sort of give up. That's that's
the mindset too, when a contract's coming to an end
and you're like, yeah, I know. That's why it's more
than money, man, because these players in anything that you're
involved in, but these players particularly have to be drinking
(18:50):
the kool aid of whatever that team is. It's like
it's like, you know, who's done a great job of that.
Baker Mayfield. I don't know, he comes to mind immediately
because whatever team he's on and what we've seen him
on four teams and you didn't see him drinking the
kool aid of these teams making the best of that situation.
Like that's what they have to do. But it's so
money driven that it no longer becomes about the team.
(19:12):
It becomes about the money. But that's the problem. So
you want these players to really buy into that organization.
This is a tricky one and if they're not beat it,
and this is where we get your feedback. Next eight, seven, seven, nine,
nine on Fox, Debo, DK Trey, Jimmy Butler NBA. When players,
(19:33):
I the word demand is strong. But when they demand
the trade or asked it, did the team, sometimes it's
time to move on rich like Danny g insinuated, that's fair.
Sometimes it's time. Shohio Tani, it was time for him.
He outgrew that city. It was his time. He you know,
filled out his time. There other times people are pounting
until they get their way. If someone requests the trade, Yeah,
(19:55):
there's different ways too. It could be a veteran that's like, yo,
I'm not even sniffing the post Hea Lillard did it. Yeah,
Damian Lillard did everything he could right that. Yeah, that's fair.
We're not criticizing that type of situation, Danny. There are
veterans that have been stars that are like, listen, with
the teams I've stayed loyal to, I'm not sniffing the postseason.
I would request a trade because I just want a
(20:16):
chance to win. Dude. It could be something else that
we often forget to factor in, like, hey man, my
family's not happy out here and it's going to tear
my marriage apart. These are real things that we never
factor in. Yeah, it could be a player that played
his whole career on the West Coast got sent to
the East and he's like, yeah, I'm not vibing. My
family is. My wife's just not happy. Everyone's not happy,
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and you know what, that could play a role. And
we'll take your feedback next. How do you think it
should be handled in the NFL, in the NBA, in
any sport for that matter, where someone says, yeah, yeah,
I sett of want out, but they're still under contract.
Do you because what happens always too Danny. You're seeing
it with the Niners. You've seen it with players, the
teams that trade the star don't really get the the
(21:00):
proper but rich what we're seeing the proper back end
of the trade slippery slope when this I don't know
if we could backtrack to find when this really started,
you know, but when this started to be a thing,
it was problematic because you're like, well, wait, they're under contract,
so they pouted to get their way. This is the
(21:22):
problem because you're like, oh, why is this happening now?
It's because we've they've been given in. It's become a thing,
it's become the norm. No one's honoring their contracts. Your
thoughts will take them Next Thursday, Your butts can be done.
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and we saw today that the Bengals are letting their
star defensive end hendrickson Seek a Trade, DK Metcalf Miles,
(23:16):
Garrett Debo. And the question is Jimmy Butler in the NBA,
Jimmy Butler, you got all these disgruntled people or people
demanding trades. Not everyone is necessarily disgruntled. We don't know
all the backstories, right, but they're demanding trades. Why have
we come to the point where owners are allowing this.
The question I wrote down here Rich was why, And
(23:36):
I think the answer lies somewhere in the backtracking of
we all remember when this started, like five to eight
years ago, certain players were pouting and they weren't playing,
and we were asking ourselves why because we had never
seen that before. Owners paid you to play, and you
played whether you liked it or not. And then eventually
people started taking a stand and pushing back. Your contract
(23:59):
was up, then you had a chance to renegotiate or
go somewhere else. So why lies in well, who started that?
And why did we let it happen? And because it
started to happen, it became the norm. And that's why
we're seeing it today saying how's this going? As your
dad would say, and it bitching and moaning. It almost
seems like by complaining and moaning about it. But that's
(24:20):
why you don't let things happen, because it becomes a
slippery slope. You're getting what you want if you just complain.
And again I said, it's like if your mom or dad,
if your kids acting up and you're like, stop crying
and we'll go get ice cream. That's what we're doing. Really,
to these players, but again on the flip side, and
it's the side that I lean on because we're having
(24:43):
a conversation here trying to explore all angles as to why,
as an owner, do you want this disgruntled baby bringing
down the vibe of your team? If there was a
virus here at Fox Sports Radio, we work for great
people and good leaders, what would they do to get
rid of it? It brings down everybody, and I think
that's what they're doing, and that's how they're looking at
(25:05):
You know, Debo had a nice It's not the players
are winning, it's the owners are saying, all right, then
beat it because you're bringing down the vibe of the clubhouse,
kind locker round. I mean, Deebo had a very kind Farewell,
had nice things to say about Lynch and Kyle Shanahan.
But you know, I think everyone was in agreement, like, yeah,
the vibe wasn't there anymore, The partnership something something wasn't
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the same. So I don't know your thoughts. Where did
this begin? Let's start with Ryan in Million Wauk on
Line one. Ryan could be on rech with somebody, Hey,
how are you guys?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Brother?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I was just thinking back to like whiners and where
it started.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I'm pretty sure, but not certain.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I'm a big James Harden fan, but I think when
James Harden.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Was with the Sixers and wanted out, that might might
have been a starting point with the whining.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeo, dude, Honestly, this is why I love talk radio.
It's like we're chopping it up at the barber shop
and I got these thoughts and sometimes I can't pinpoint him,
but we're having a collective conversation and you just read
my mind.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I think that's the one party was one of the
guys where he was like, like, man, that's kind of
wild what these guys are doing. And it becomes a
thought of are you on the players side or the
owner side? Because it's kind of cool that they're pushing
back and sticking it to the man, but we had
never seen that. But then it becomes a normal thing
and that's why we're dealing with it today. That's right.
I mean, listen, I know our buddy Trevor and Waco
(26:26):
wants to chime in. That's a great one man on
this side of like, if you put this in perspective
of small business, like Let's say let's say you own
a bakery and one of your employees is like, you know,
I want to get out of here. I want to
work for the other bakery. Like, there comes a point
where you're like, well, then I don't want your complaining
ass here. Then go Trevor your thoughts, buddy.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, I's it going guys. First off, I want to say,
great job on the show. I've been listening for quite
some time, and you guys do awesome and it's interesting,
thanks man in this topic of discussion, and I get
when I call in the goals answer to the phone.
So I think that type of selfless leadership and that
type of selfless behavior and the team is it's a
(27:06):
pretty pretty interesting you hear that selfless.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Let's explain Danny G stepped out, Yeah, Danny G stepped out.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So Rich answered the call selflessly. I ran to get
my phone charger and I told Rich. Rich watched the
phone for two minutes.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So we tell we tell Trevor you had to go
to bathroom. Trevor, what's your thoughts on the small business
side of this? Man? If you're a small business owner,
do you want this disgruntled guy on your team?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I'm starting, you know, I'm starting a small business and
I'll keep it short. But ultimately, something I learned the
wrong time ago was a couple of things with these
athletes that are complaining. If you're constantly complaining and no
one else surrounds you is about the same issues. And
the ballmer calling in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
First teams checking if you are complaining. I always tell
my team members, hey, if you have a problem, there's
no issue with I don't have an issue with you
trying to make.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
This operation better. But being a solution, right, always doing
a solution to the problem.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And I think those three things are key. You want
to hear feedback from your employees because sometimes you can
improve efficiency.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, but yeah, and that's all great advice. And I
appreciate the call man, thanks for the kind words. But
as much as I want to say we'll beat it,
then you also have to think about was that old
expression you got to keep your pimpan strong rich. The
owner's got to stay strong here, and like the heat did,
stand their ground because if the player chooses to continue
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to go down that path, right, they're just diminishing their
own value and eventually they're going to realize that, so
it's counterproductive for them in the long run to continue
being that way. Yes, there is.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Something else rich too, really quick that came to mind
because it happens a lot in our business philosophical differences.
And you saw that with Kawhi Leonard in San Antonio.
Remember he had he had the quad injury.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Wait a second, was it Kawhi Leonard or Harden that
really rubbed me? I think the.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
First one that came in my mind was Kawhi because
his team, he wanted his own doctors and his representatives
were causing a problem with the Spurs medical team and
there was a big beef there and that forced him
out of set.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Another really good one, Danny g And that's when we
all began scratching our heads and we started seeing a
new way of players making demands. And if you really
want to backtrack and get to the core of well, why,
it's because they're really well paid and they have the
power to say, yeah, I don't need to do this.
I already got millions of dollars. So that's really where
the problem lies. You gave these guys so much money
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that they're like, I don't need you know, I got
they're just as much in demand and in power of
the situation. And you know, it becomes a stickery, slippery slope.
And you got to ask yourself, am I on the
side of the player or the team? Did you say
it's stickery and slippery? I made that up? I like
that stickery, you know, before we go to DV in
a second, I just I thought of other examples throughout life,
(29:54):
not just sports. Those are some great and that actually
looks them up to get out of a deal with
Warner Brothers. Remember Prince the artist formerly noticed Prince and
he was a symbol that was his, that was his
work around. No I forgot him. Tell me about him.
You might have know this, guys that I heard of him. Yeah,
I think I remember. I have one.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I know.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I guarantee you don't know Ernest Hemingway. This goes back
a long time. Apparently he wanted to get out of
a publishing deal, so he wrote a stinker of a
book so the company would be like, oh, Hemingway doesn't
have it anymore? Is that way? And in the world
of radio, do you remember, of course famous on the
East Coast Opie and Anthony. The only way they could
(30:32):
go to a better job. Offer in New York was
if they got fired, So they faked the mayor's death
in their city, knowing we're gonna get fired, got the
big job in New York City. Let's fake his death, Opie. Okay, yeah,
I heard he's back on radio and Jeremy Piven. This
is alleged, but do you remember he faked that. They
say he may have faked mercury poisoning because he didn't
(30:55):
want to be on a Broadway show he signed up
for and he apparently wasn't happy with it. So the
whole week of the run of the show, they're like,
oh yeah, Pimmin's out with murcury poisoning. He had too
much sushi. Here's here's where it's confusing though, for the fan, right,
because you always want to have the side of the employee, right,
screw the owner, these rich dudes signing checks. But as
(31:18):
a fan, you're rooting for that team, right, So it's
always your you're as a fan, you're in the middle
here exactly. You want to root for the small guy,
but you also want to root for your team. You
all guys messed up your team, like boh, I get it.
dB what's going on my friend fellas.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Very rarely do I like it when people use real
world and sports together, and this is one of those
opportunities where I hate it the most. I just don't
think it's I just don't I think it's apples to oranges,
to grapefruits to bananas. I think it's so different because
there's so many different angles to it.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
You use the bakery thing. If there's a bakery across
the street that's paying you five dollars more an hour,
what are you gonna do, you know, like that to
make your money? Yeah, yeah, exactly, you're gonna leave, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So you think the athletes are are taking advantage of
the situation. Sometimes I do.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Think it works both ways in professional sports. I just
I don't think that it's an apples to apples when
we talk about someone trying to support their family, you know,
you know that's true week.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
In a real life situation. So you're saying the local
baker is not the same as Miles Garrett. Correct. Yes, yes,
you're saying Prince the artist probably knows Prince is not
the same as the guy work at the hospital to donuts.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Yes, George Michael famously had a dispute with Sony you know,
refused to promote and he ended up having to pay
lost the lawsuit you know for it for the violation
of his contract.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Taylor Swift re recorded all her albums so that people
would stop taking money from her.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Sure, sure you guys touched on it, but for those
that missed it. Bengals defensive Entrey Hendrickson has gotten permission
from Cincinnati to seek a trade. He is entering the
final year of his five year deal signed with the Bengals.
Final year would be twenty twenty five. Led the NFL
in sacks this past offseason. The Athletic reported earlier today
that multiple teams called the Bengals about wide receiver t Higgins,
(33:10):
who had the franchise tag placed on him, but right
now Cincinnati wants to work on a long term deal.
Jaguars are trading wide receiver Christian Kirk to the Houston
Texans for a seventh round pick. In twenty twenty six,
Browns restructured the contract of quarterback Deshaun Watson, freeing up
thirty six million dollars in cap space. Rams gave wide
receiver two two at well a.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
One year deal.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Your Niners Rich are letting go of defensive lineman Javon
Hargrave when the new league year begins next week. Jagg
center Mitch Morris retiring from the game after ten seasons.
No Paul George or Tyres Maxey for the Sixers tonight
against the Celtics Arnold Palmer Invitational. Wyndham Clark leads at
five hundred power after a round of sixty seven. Today
Rory McElroy in a group three shots back at two under.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Guys back to you, thank you d be so intrigued
by I'm so intrigued by all these gms trying to,
you know, not manipulate, trying to work the salary cap
like it's it just seems like it's a never that
anytime a team gets good, you have a little window
of time before it's like, yeah, all these guys want
to get paid. I mean, it's obvious, but it's like
you are just trying desperately to be like, can we
(34:09):
win in this little window? So many, like you said,
the gms are facing the fact that these pros ain't loyal,
and we also have to keep in mind that these
pros have to make their money in that little window
that they've got. It's like I said, you as the
fan are torn in the middle, just rooting for your team,
hoping they stay and then you know, then the GM.
(34:29):
The obstacle also is all right, I got a couple
guys that are up for that big contract. Who am
I betting on? You know, because you're seeing that on
a lot of teams where when you see a Pro
Bowl level guy get released or like the team's like, yeah,
he can move on, they're pretty much saying, like he's
great now, but I don't think he's the guy I
want long term. It's interesting. Let's also not forget that
(34:51):
it could be a tactic because as you heard dbsay,
Trey Hendrickson said he's seeking a trade have to having
a big season with the Bengals, DBO, DK, Miles Garrett
and more. Maybe it's just a way of saying, I'm
willing to leave, so let's see what you're willing to
get me. Yeah, true, you know so and.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Quickly the difference Miles, the Browns are like, we're not
trading you, Miles Garrett. The Bengals and Seahawks are like,
go ahead, feel Phil. They may not want those guys back. Yeah,
at Seahawks don't want maybe DK they want to go
younger Bengals like maybe they feel Tray Andrickson's best years
are behind them or don't want to pay him thirty
five million dollars. But the Browns are like, sorry, Miles Garrett,
you can't seek a trade elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, and so you're right dB in that. It's it's
so hard to compare all these I agree with that,
But it's interesting how there's a lot of power there,
a lot of power at the players. All right, we
got more Kavine and Rich. Next we're gonna go fifty.
We're gonna go old school. We hit fifty. Someone's celebrating
a birthday that's very close to the show. We'll be
funny coming up right, Yay, yay. Covino and Rich Live
(36:01):
from the West Side, Live from the Marios. You live
in the valley. People watch you anyway, lived, I'm representing
the West Side. Covino and Rich Futos Locos Forever eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox Live from the tyrack dot
Com Studio Danny g prefet dB Spotty's here again our
(36:25):
videos at Covino and Rich Fox Sports radios YouTube page.
If you want to stay in a good mood today,
they'll look at your don't look at your mutual funds
or retirement today. Thanks for reminding me. Yeah, today's nothing.
Dn't look at it. Well, we're gonna celebrate someone's birthday.
About that to make everyone feel a little better. Nice,
But a quick phone call from Seawan and Sacramento Sewing
(36:45):
make it snappy? What's up?
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Man?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Don't make it snappy? This guy always brings it. I like,
what's up? What's up?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I'll make it quick and I'll bring it to the
same time, fellas. First of all, my brother from another
mother man.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
And second of all, can I just say, Danny G
did y'all proud yesterday?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Man?
Speaker 7 (37:00):
He came on a hot seat with the odd couple
and it was a bigger robbery between Tang, Davis or
Roach over the weekend. They totally stole my man's win.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I don't know who's going on with.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Alex Teischer, but that brings up a bigger point.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Man.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
Nanny G pointed out, that's a big vanilla funny slim
whatever in thirty eight nicknames are is calling everybody out
about his little basketball one shot take can we get
some tournament action between YouTube the Odd Couple and the
Big Vanilla Funny and playing show during the tournament. That's
who's got the sweetest jumper?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Man, I'm trying to see it, Fellas.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I mean, uncontested. Cavino's pretty good, but you get in
his face, you'll block him every time. But it's been
a minute since I've been shooting. Look, I love Big Vanilla, Husky,
Funny Poppy, the guy with the million nicknames. I love him.
I think he's a great broadcaster. I'm not sure I
have the energy for this dude, to be honest, so
I gotta figure it out. If you want it, Sean,
we're gonna have to shootout company. Yeah, if the demand
(37:53):
is there, I'm down. I'll tell you this. I love
his show, though, Big Vanilla, the Husky Poppy. He he
said that he'll beat anyone in Fox Sports ready on
physical challenges, and I was like, if it's baseball related,
I'm confident I'll beat anyone here. If it's basketball related,
I don't know. We got a guy named Doug Gottlieb
who played college basketball and as a coach, and then
(38:14):
I said, if it's football, we got LeVar and Brady Quinn.
I said, the only thing VJ vernon Husky will win
is a selfie Jim posed down because the guy posts
a lot of Jim selfie. Honestly, I don't even know
if you win against that. There might be a guy
in the BACKI I put up against him, you know,
spots right there, spot. I think you'd win. In fact,
VJ would win nothing. That's HILARI got him.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I don't know this competing and broadcasting, but hey, if
it's gotta happen, it's gotta happen. Sorry, if it's mini
golfer wiffotball, I got my money on Covino. There you go,
and again we're Covino and Rich. Shout out to the
Big Vanilla funny and shout out to the odd couple.
Danny g The hot seat was fun. Yeah, I gotta
listen back. I love the odd couple, and I love
you guys for hanging out with us. But look it
(38:57):
is time. Let's go. There's a ya.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
What we're gonna do is go back back into time,
throwing it back for a Thursday. Old School went fifty hits.
That's fifty after CNR give you the time capsule topic
and we reminisce together.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, okay, so we love to reminisce on a Thursday,
throw it back and get you involved. There was a
movie that came out when we were kids, nineteen ninety six.
Nineteen ninety six. That's also when Swingers came out. I
remember because I was way into that movie. I was
in college at the time. Not to date myself, but
(39:39):
I remember watching this. It got five percent on Rotten Potatoes,
but we all saw it. I'm talking about Kazam. And
the reason we bring up this terrible movie is because
today is Shaq Heille O'Neills fifty third birthday. Shacker Love
Shack Babe. I can't believe up fifty three happy birthday.
(40:03):
I'm still still handsled and I'm still strong, and I'll
still be Vanilla Funny in basketball. So I look at
it this way. Vanilla, do you think that Funny fifty
three a legend? But he had a stinker known as Kazam. No,
I'm sick and tired. You're fired and get out. So
when you think of the weakest movies most of us
(40:27):
have seen, what comes to mind. Because I feel like
Kazam because of Shak's popularity. So many people like, oh,
shacks in a movie. I'll just check it out. Can
I kick it off? Please?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Do?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Besides Kazam, the weakest movies we've all seen again. We
want your feedback at eight seven, seven ninety nine on
Fox No Holds Barred Dude, Hulk Holgan and Zeus ty
Zeus Lister. Oh, that was such a great answer, tokyukyu.
We'll take your feedback back CNR on FSR hangtype FO
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Let's go all right, where do we start? It's a
very special day. Rich is somebody's birthday. Whose birthday is it?
We'll explain, and we're gonna throw a birthday old school
when fifty hits. Actually, I know who you're thinking of.
You know who else's birthday? It is someone I think
you love even more. You're thinking of a legend in
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the sports world. It's also since sy John Creese's birthday,
Martin Cove is seventy nine. Oh yeah, you're a feisty
old man. But I like that Cobra cuh, I like that.
Have mercy now that's actually Jesse Castopolos. No hair, no
mercy is what I meant to say. So anyway, I'm Cavino.
That is Rich. Happy birthday to Martin Cove and to
(01:48):
someone else in the world of sports. Happy boy said,
we'll celebrate and throw it back when fifty hits, and
we get you involved with phone calls. At eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox, we got to talk Russell
Westbrook a little bit, just a little bituse I thought
he did something really cool, something that not that I
ever had a bad opinion of him, but made me
like him more. Touched your puddles on a little touch
(02:09):
might go to son. Got to talk about your Boy,
Debo and more lots to get to On today's show,
I want to start out by a headline I saw,
and just to show you the money these athletes make
nowadays sounds like something a boomer would say, right, the
money these athletes make nowadays. That just the headline's funny
(02:30):
when you see the headline that says forty nine ers
lowball rock Party, starting at forty five million a year,
And just think of that number, lowballing. That sounds just
about right. Low balling at forty five million a year,
that's a low ball number. I guess when you think
you're making fifty to sixty with I think I'm just
saying that sounds fair, right. Oh, I agree, they'll probably
(02:51):
give him more than that. But if anyone thinks that's
a lowball starting point, I'm gonna say, keep in mind,
it's called the negotiation, right, So who in any negotiations
starts high. No, he's got to be a little back
and forth. Your boss doesn't say, here's all the money
we're wheeling out for you. You have to negotiate for that, right, right.
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So I think it's a fair starting point. I do.
I don't think he's worth much more. Than that, especially
if you're on a nice team behind him. Well what
if my grandfather used to tell me about baseball cards,
and it applies to everything in life. They're worthless, switchy. No, No,
They're only worth what someone's willing to give you for them. Yeah,
but Grandpa, hoh, they can think of the rated rookie
is worth eighty five dollars, all richie boy, who's gonna
(03:35):
give you eighty five dollars? Well, I don't know, grandpa,
but you'll see no one. I'm just saying. If the
Niners Billy Ripkins the error card, it's worth thirty five dollars. Grandpa.
It's a fas with an infinity on it. Oh, so
with the baseball card theory, I just look at it
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as well. Who's gonna give Brack pretty more than forty
five to fifty million dollars a year? If you say
the Niners say, all right, four years one eighty five,
like a little more than forty five year one, you know,
four years one ninety. If he's between forty and fifty
million dollars a year, you don't think they can negotiate
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and settle on a sweet fifty. That's like four years
two Hundo a little in between. He wants sixty, they
want forty. They meet in the middle of fifty. If
brock Purty gets four years two hundred, I think most
people would be happy. But you got to ask yourself
if the Niners don't. It goes with dating, it goes
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to work, it goes with baseball cards, it goes with
everything in life. Your only the market will dictate what
you're worth. Right, You're only worth what people are willing
to pay. You'll you'll think I'm the hottest commodity. You know,
going a dating ap, they'll tell you if you're a
hot commodity. Go to a bar. You'll see who hits
on you. You'll see who gives you their number, who
trades DMS with you. You're the mark. It tells you.
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The dating world tells you. Your boss will tell you,
because if you don't like what you're getting paid and
you think you're worth more, someone else will give it
to you. But I got to ask the question, who's
gonna give brock Party fifty five sixty million dollars a year?
If the Niners say, yeah, we're not doing that, is
some team gonna be like, we desperately need brock Listen.
I love rock Party, but he's not Mahomes. He's not
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Josh Allen or Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson. That's not
He's that next year solid quarterback that's doing well for
this team. Will that translate on another team? That's the
other risk that a team would have to take, and
that he would have to take. You see that buyer.
I'd want to stay there at a sweet fifty, you
see anything as close as possible to fifty, just because
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I know I fit in here and I'm welcomed here.
You see that clickbait stuff that's been going around the
last couple of days. Where are the Titans interested in
brock Party? And I'm like, you know what if you
want to pay brock Party. Yeah, but it's not always that.
I don't want to put ourselves in awkward situation rich
because I would like to negotiate some day. But you
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have to factor in, like, let's say someone offered us
more money. Are they gonna still let us do what
we do? Are we gonna be as happy else? There's
so many other factors. Is he gonna shine as bright
somewhere else and fit into the system the way he
does in San Francisco. These are things he needs to
keep in mind. It's not always about chasing the bag,
because he can go to Tennessee or somewhere else and
(06:26):
stink it up and his career's down the drain. Chasing
your bad So many times it's like, dude, you're playing good,
you know, stay there. If you're happy and you're playing
well and they're being fair, that's the thing. And I
think sometimes that only comes with wisdom. Sure i'd want
to get paid more, but I would factor in. But
I'm very happy where I'm at, And like I said,
I want to get in our own way and then
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have Fox Sports say, well, then here's this right now,
don't show you don't play your don't show us your hand.
You don't want to show all your hand. But that's
the truth. If you're happy where you're at, you got
to factor that into the equation. I'm not sure. I'm
sure brock Perty can go somewhere else and light it up.
And with all these big deals you saw Max Crosby
get paid yesterday, Danny g and the Raider is nation
very happy, there is a layer where once you make
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a certain amount of money, And again I'm not spending
nothing bothers me more when other people spend your money,
like mentally like you should do this, you should do
this when you say, why would the athlete take more
money to go there? Listen, some people really are just
about the money. But when you're making forty to fifty
sixty million dollars a year, it's not like five million
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dollars more is gonna make you happy? You have so
much money? Is there all those studies that show like
once you hit a certain level of wealth, you're not
happier if you make more than that. Ask Jim Carrey,
your hero. He always told a seeing the top of
the mountain, He's seeing the top of the mountain, and
it's not always cracked up to be. Like danyg brought
up recently, that was the Aaron Rodgers story. He won
(07:57):
the Super Bowl. That was his lifelong drink as a
kid playing football growing up. That was the goal. Once
he got there and won, it's like, all right, well,
what else is going to make me happy? An extra
five million dollars rich is not going to make brock
Purty happier. Him playing well, being embraced by the fans
and the team. That's where it's at. So you find
a compromise, you settle at. They're offering forty five a year, Yeah,
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anything close to fifty. Take it the reality. If it
was a game ghetto, if it was like dealer, No,
the obvious you take you dage day ag in. It
seems obvious, right. But when you think about how we
talk about these big numbers, put a perspective. Someone that
makes give me a good round number. You know a
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guy that makes one hundred thousand dollars doing a sales job. Okay,
one hundred thousand dollars, he would work twenty years to
make two million dollars. Put a perspective. You talk about
someone someone makes half a million dollars and they're you know, balling.
You know, they're the VP of the company making half
a millionllion dollars. It would take them forty years to
(09:05):
make twenty million dollars. It's about fair, though, rich, It's
about fair or not. Can't compare brock Party in his
career in professional sports to anyone else. No fair, and
it does it sounds fair. I know you're saying you
can't compare, But what I'm saying is one year Rock
Party making fifty million dollars after taxes, agent fees, all that.
Let's say he comes away with twenty something mill Twenty
(09:26):
something million dollars is probably ten times more than most
people will make in their whole life. Yeah, sad. So
with that said, happiness where you'll win, all these other
things have to play a role. And if brock Party
is not a flashy guy and he's a humble guy,
(09:46):
Let's say he buys a house in the Bay Area
or wherever he wants to live, a five to ten
million dollar house. He could pay paid in cash and
still be like, yeah, I'm good for the rest of
my life. No one's gonna say poor brock Party. Look
at him.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
He's not OnlyFans now, he's gonna be just also a
big part of your happiness. For us, it's our bosses
and who we work for. In the NFL, it's your
coach's coaching staff, especially your head coach, your offensive coordinator
in his case, you know, a defensive coordinator for like
Kendrickson and in Cincy. If he leaves and goes elsewhere, okay,
but are you going to get along with the coaches
(10:18):
the way you do in Cincinnati?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, coaches that believed in him and banked on him,
like Brock party. I'm not saying he owes anything to
John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan, but they certainly had his
back to get him to this point exactly. That's all
we we can move on to. Well, it's interesting because
he's a very specific story though too rich. Yeah, I
just saw the headline as I walked in the studio.
This is not what I planned on starting with, but
(10:41):
I saw the headline. It said Rock Purty getting lowballed.
And I'm like, when you tell me that this guy's
going to probably end up with four years, a couple
hundred million dollars, that's the low ball. Like these guys
are living in a fantasy lowball. He was mister irrelevant.
That's great, And this is this great story continues as
far as I see it. To me, when you talk
about people winning the power ball, Yes, this is incredible.
(11:04):
This is the continuation of an incredible story. He's getting
what That's great. Take it, Brock, you're the man. And
Tom Brady historically has been known to be the guy
that takes a little less money for the greater good.
And look what it got him, more contracts, longevity, by
the way, championships, that's how you do it. You follow
(11:24):
the blueprint. There's not necessarily a blueprint in life, right,
but Tom Brady did leave a pretty nice blueprint on
how to win. And if that's how he did it,
and he's one of the goats, is brock Party better
than Tom Brady? I don't think so. In fact, I
know so, so I would say that's great footsteps to follow. Now,
talking about the NFL, let's pivot. Pivot. You don't watch Friends.
(11:49):
You never saw that, you know, I know the reference,
though not a Bozoe give. You know, it's too busy
getting booty when everyone else was watching Friends in the
night and I know they were carrying a couch up
the steps. What would he do? I've seen it? Well,
bit he'd do, I've seen it, Pimott. Let's pivot to
the bigger stories in the NFL, in my opinion, which
is all these superstars demanding trades or asking their team like,
(12:14):
y'all you gotta trade me, Deebo, Samuel DK Metcalf, Trey Hendrickson.
These are Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett, these are big name guys.
And you saw it in the NBA Jimmy Butler is
the new way in sports. If you're a superstar, if
you just part of my language, if you just bitch
(12:35):
and complain enough, is that your way to get what
you want? Like, don't we teach our kids the opposite?
Like like that would be like telling your kids, like,
stop crying and I'll get your basket, Robins, you want
to go to Coldstone Creamery, simmer down? Like that's bad parenting.
We're giving it to bad parenting. Bitch and complain, my
dad would say, bitch and moan moaning? Is that is
(12:57):
that the way? It's been the way for a minute now? No,
I don't think if this is anything new. It's a
matter of do you give in to it or not?
And the phrase of the years could be I look
at it this way. If there a discrauntled employee, get
then beat it. It's like Aaron Judge recently said, when
asked about the facial hair right, the facial hair change,
(13:18):
I already has a fou manchew. No, is that true? No,
he said he's choosing to not have facial hair at
least for now. He does in the off season, but
he said, look the greats before me did it that
way in respect to them and the traditions, you know,
I'm fine with them, cool with it, he said, But
if that was the determining factor of you wanting to
play here or not, then maybe you shouldn't play here. Like,
(13:40):
if that's really what it means to you, Like, then
you're not thinking big picture of what it really means
to play for this team, then you don't want to
be on this team anyway. Even Johnny Damon said that recently.
He's like, yo, man, I loved my beard, but I
wanted to play for the Yankees. If you really want
to play for that team, you're not going to act
this way. So as an owner who's paying you ridiculous money,
(14:04):
I would take the approach of, like, then beat it.
I'm saying, if you're on a relationship who's acting a
whole hum about you, it's like, I know it's it's
easier said than done, but it's like, well, if you
don't want to be with me, I want to be
with someone that wants to be with me, So then
go in and see if the grass is greener. And
that's what these owners are doing. And I'm glad it's
not a matter of them giving in. It's a matter
of them saying no, beat it, I get out of
(14:26):
my face. I see what you're saying. But I know
we've always heard the phrase squeaky wheel gets the oil
that goes back generations, right, Like, YO, complain enough that
you know you'll get attention. I hate it, Richard, but
it's true. I know what you're saying. You're saying, Yo,
you don't want to be in this marriage or relationship,
or you don't want to be at this company, or
you don't want to be part of this radio show
(14:46):
or TV show. If you don't want to be here,
get out. There's the door. But that's the reality. There's contracts, dude,
like a guy if you're telling me, DK Metcalf just
is like, yeah, I'm sort of done. Okay, he dictate
this Fox Sports Nation. If you're a small business owner,
pretend you are. If you're not, you have a disgruntled employee.
(15:08):
He can't be replaced. Beat it. You want that guy
working for your company when you're trying to put a
good product out there. That's really what this is. On
a grander scale, contract or not. If this guy's unhappy,
he's not producing for you, You want a sour Jimmy Butler
in your locker room, bringing down the vibe of everybody.
I know it's sad to say, well, then that player
(15:29):
wins because they pout and they get what they want.
But is that what you want as an owner? How
would you handle it then? Because I would be like,
then then get go go. You know what, what everything
you're saying, hope that karma gets that. I don't disagree
with you. I know, I don't think they're supposed to do.
It sucks because what you're saying is, if you're a
big enough star, pout and get what you want, and
(15:51):
then just what I agree you're saying, if you're I
look at it as I'm hoping the other owners see
the attitude and the type of character this person has,
because what do you think that guy is going to
change all of a sudden because he's somewhere else. No,
because eventually he's gonna get to another place and pout again.
And then again that's just the way someone is at
that point. So they're basically advertising like, hey, I'm a
(16:12):
problem person. I'm problematic. I'm really they're holding up side
being difficult. I'm not being a sour forty nine ercent.
But I have said to you guys, what did I
say all last year? I said, yeah, I love Deebo,
but it seems like he's his vibes are off, I
said last year, I said, dee Ba doesn't have that smile,
he's not But.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Then you threw him a pass on our Super Bowl stage.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, but you don't know what we're downplaying. I was
the reason. I was like, you know what, I'm knowing
this guy. There's a reason that we Covino and Rich
have some longevity. It's not because we're the greatest broadcaster.
I like to think that, hey, we're entertaining, right, but
we're easy to work with. I think that's very undermined
(16:52):
and downplayed in life and in sports. You know these guys.
There's so many players that were great, but they were difficult.
L Lowens comes to mind. He could have still played.
He just was a headache. After a while, people stop
wanting to work with you. I know people in my
life that are super talented, but guess what, they're not
working and they're not finding jobs. You know why the
foot gold So as an owner, you've had enough of
(17:15):
this guy, right, this guy, this guy doesn't make or
break your organization. Guess what the Bengals go on with
or without this dude, right, And he's advertising he's difficult,
so yes, someone else will pick him up, but he's
going to be difficult somewhere else. If but COVI.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You know what if a player does it respectfully, Like
we don't know how Hendrickson is handling this in Cincinnati,
maybe he went to the owner and the general manager
in a respectful way and said.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, that's different. Yeah I did different on.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But he's not going through the media and he's not pouting,
and he's not.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But still saying I don't want to play here. You're
never going to get the production out of that dude
that you're paying him for. Like I said, I hate
to bring it back to relationships. If there's a woman
in your life and I've been there, I've been through
divorce and everything else, and she's like, I don't want
to be here anymore, you're never going to get that
production out of her. If she doesn't want to be
(18:08):
in this relationship, that it's not a mutual respect at
that point. You know, if you know a player on
your team or an employee of your company is out
the minute their contractor agreement is up. They got to
be in at meant then you're just short abiding time,
Like you know, that's why a lot of times contracts
(18:28):
they'll open up early and be like, yeah, you know what,
we'll buy you ad or get out of here, because
you're right, it's you know, like your senior year. How
towards the end you sort of give up. That's that's
the mindset too, when a contract's coming to an end
and you're like, yeah, I know. That's why it's more
than money, man, because these players in anything that you're
involved in, but these players particularly have to be drinking
(18:50):
the kool aid of whatever that team is. It's like
it's like, you know, who's done a great job of that.
Baker Mayfield. I don't know, he comes to mind immediately
because whatever team he's on and what we've seen him
on four teams and you didn't see him drinking the
kool aid of these teams making the best of that situation.
Like that's what they have to do. But it's so
money driven that it no longer becomes about the team.
(19:12):
It becomes about the money. But that's the problem. So
you want these players to really buy into that organization.
This is a tricky one and if they're not beat it,
and this is where we get your feedback. Next eight, seven, seven, nine,
nine on Fox, Debo, DK Trey, Jimmy Butler NBA. When players,
(19:33):
I the word demand is strong. But when they demand
the trade or asked it, did the team, sometimes it's
time to move on rich like Danny g insinuated, that's fair.
Sometimes it's time. Shohio Tani, it was time for him.
He outgrew that city. It was his time. He you know,
filled out his time. There other times people are pounting
until they get their way. If someone requests the trade, Yeah,
(19:55):
there's different ways too. It could be a veteran that's like, yo,
I'm not even sniffing the post Hea Lillard did it. Yeah,
Damian Lillard did everything he could right that. Yeah, that's fair.
We're not criticizing that type of situation, Danny. There are
veterans that have been stars that are like, listen, with
the teams I've stayed loyal to, I'm not sniffing the postseason.
I would request a trade because I just want a
(20:16):
chance to win. Dude. It could be something else that
we often forget to factor in, like, hey man, my
family's not happy out here and it's going to tear
my marriage apart. These are real things that we never
factor in. Yeah, it could be a player that played
his whole career on the West Coast got sent to
the East and he's like, yeah, I'm not vibing. My
family is. My wife's just not happy. Everyone's not happy,
(20:38):
and you know what, that could play a role. And
we'll take your feedback next. How do you think it
should be handled in the NFL, in the NBA, in
any sport for that matter, where someone says, yeah, yeah,
I sett of want out, but they're still under contract.
Do you because what happens always too Danny. You're seeing
it with the Niners. You've seen it with players, the
teams that trade the star don't really get the the
(21:00):
proper but rich what we're seeing the proper back end
of the trade slippery slope when this I don't know
if we could backtrack to find when this really started,
you know, but when this started to be a thing,
it was problematic because you're like, well, wait, they're under contract,
so they pouted to get their way. This is the
(21:22):
problem because you're like, oh, why is this happening now?
It's because we've they've been given in. It's become a thing,
it's become the norm. No one's honoring their contracts. Your
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and we saw today that the Bengals are letting their
star defensive end hendrickson Seek a Trade, DK Metcalf Miles,
(23:16):
Garrett Debo. And the question is Jimmy Butler in the NBA,
Jimmy Butler, you got all these disgruntled people or people
demanding trades. Not everyone is necessarily disgruntled. We don't know
all the backstories, right, but they're demanding trades. Why have
we come to the point where owners are allowing this.
The question I wrote down here Rich was why, And
(23:36):
I think the answer lies somewhere in the backtracking of
we all remember when this started, like five to eight
years ago, certain players were pouting and they weren't playing,
and we were asking ourselves why because we had never
seen that before. Owners paid you to play, and you
played whether you liked it or not. And then eventually
people started taking a stand and pushing back. Your contract
(23:59):
was up, then you had a chance to renegotiate or
go somewhere else. So why lies in well, who started that?
And why did we let it happen? And because it
started to happen, it became the norm. And that's why
we're seeing it today saying how's this going? As your
dad would say, and it bitching and moaning. It almost
seems like by complaining and moaning about it. But that's
(24:20):
why you don't let things happen, because it becomes a
slippery slope. You're getting what you want if you just complain.
And again I said, it's like if your mom or dad,
if your kids acting up and you're like, stop crying
and we'll go get ice cream. That's what we're doing. Really,
to these players, but again on the flip side, and
it's the side that I lean on because we're having
(24:43):
a conversation here trying to explore all angles as to why,
as an owner, do you want this disgruntled baby bringing
down the vibe of your team? If there was a
virus here at Fox Sports Radio, we work for great
people and good leaders, what would they do to get
rid of it? It brings down everybody, and I think
that's what they're doing, and that's how they're looking at
(25:05):
You know, Debo had a nice It's not the players
are winning, it's the owners are saying, all right, then
beat it because you're bringing down the vibe of the clubhouse,
kind locker round. I mean, Deebo had a very kind Farewell,
had nice things to say about Lynch and Kyle Shanahan.
But you know, I think everyone was in agreement, like, yeah,
the vibe wasn't there anymore, The partnership something something wasn't
(25:25):
the same. So I don't know your thoughts. Where did
this begin? Let's start with Ryan in Million Wauk on
Line one. Ryan could be on rech with somebody, Hey,
how are you guys?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Brother?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I was just thinking back to like whiners and where
it started.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I'm pretty sure, but not certain.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I'm a big James Harden fan, but I think when
James Harden.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Was with the Sixers and wanted out, that might might
have been a starting point with the whining.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeo, dude, Honestly, this is why I love talk radio.
It's like we're chopping it up at the barber shop
and I got these thoughts and sometimes I can't pinpoint him,
but we're having a collective conversation and you just read
my mind.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I think that's the one party was one of the
guys where he was like, like, man, that's kind of
wild what these guys are doing. And it becomes a
thought of are you on the players side or the
owner side? Because it's kind of cool that they're pushing
back and sticking it to the man, but we had
never seen that. But then it becomes a normal thing
and that's why we're dealing with it today. That's right.
I mean, listen, I know our buddy Trevor and Waco
(26:26):
wants to chime in. That's a great one man on
this side of like, if you put this in perspective
of small business, like Let's say let's say you own
a bakery and one of your employees is like, you know,
I want to get out of here. I want to
work for the other bakery. Like, there comes a point
where you're like, well, then I don't want your complaining
ass here. Then go Trevor your thoughts, buddy.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, I's it going guys. First off, I want to say,
great job on the show. I've been listening for quite
some time, and you guys do awesome and it's interesting,
thanks man in this topic of discussion, and I get
when I call in the goals answer to the phone.
So I think that type of selfless leadership and that
type of selfless behavior and the team is it's a
(27:06):
pretty pretty interesting you hear that selfless.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Let's explain Danny G stepped out, Yeah, Danny G stepped out.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So Rich answered the call selflessly. I ran to get
my phone charger and I told Rich. Rich watched the
phone for two minutes.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So we tell we tell Trevor you had to go
to bathroom. Trevor, what's your thoughts on the small business
side of this? Man? If you're a small business owner,
do you want this disgruntled guy on your team?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I'm starting, you know, I'm starting a small business and
I'll keep it short. But ultimately, something I learned the
wrong time ago was a couple of things with these
athletes that are complaining. If you're constantly complaining and no
one else surrounds you is about the same issues. And
the ballmer calling in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
First teams checking if you are complaining. I always tell
my team members, hey, if you have a problem, there's
no issue with I don't have an issue with you
trying to make.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
This operation better. But being a solution, right, always doing
a solution to the problem.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And I think those three things are key. You want
to hear feedback from your employees because sometimes you can
improve efficiency.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, but yeah, and that's all great advice. And I
appreciate the call man, thanks for the kind words. But
as much as I want to say we'll beat it,
then you also have to think about was that old
expression you got to keep your pimpan strong rich. The
owner's got to stay strong here, and like the heat did,
stand their ground because if the player chooses to continue
(28:29):
to go down that path, right, they're just diminishing their
own value and eventually they're going to realize that, so
it's counterproductive for them in the long run to continue
being that way. Yes, there is.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Something else rich too, really quick that came to mind
because it happens a lot in our business philosophical differences.
And you saw that with Kawhi Leonard in San Antonio.
Remember he had he had the quad injury.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Wait a second, was it Kawhi Leonard or Harden that
really rubbed me? I think the.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
First one that came in my mind was Kawhi because
his team, he wanted his own doctors and his representatives
were causing a problem with the Spurs medical team and
there was a big beef there and that forced him
out of set.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Another really good one, Danny g And that's when we
all began scratching our heads and we started seeing a
new way of players making demands. And if you really
want to backtrack and get to the core of well, why,
it's because they're really well paid and they have the
power to say, yeah, I don't need to do this.
I already got millions of dollars. So that's really where
the problem lies. You gave these guys so much money
(29:33):
that they're like, I don't need you know, I got
they're just as much in demand and in power of
the situation. And you know, it becomes a stickery, slippery slope.
And you got to ask yourself, am I on the
side of the player or the team? Did you say
it's stickery and slippery? I made that up? I like
that stickery, you know, before we go to DV in
a second, I just I thought of other examples throughout life,
(29:54):
not just sports. Those are some great and that actually
looks them up to get out of a deal with
Warner Brothers. Remember Prince the artist formerly noticed Prince and
he was a symbol that was his, that was his
work around. No I forgot him. Tell me about him.
You might have know this, guys that I heard of him. Yeah,
I think I remember. I have one.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I know.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I guarantee you don't know Ernest Hemingway. This goes back
a long time. Apparently he wanted to get out of
a publishing deal, so he wrote a stinker of a
book so the company would be like, oh, Hemingway doesn't
have it anymore? Is that way? And in the world
of radio, do you remember, of course famous on the
East Coast Opie and Anthony. The only way they could
(30:32):
go to a better job. Offer in New York was
if they got fired, So they faked the mayor's death
in their city, knowing we're gonna get fired, got the
big job in New York City. Let's fake his death, Opie. Okay, yeah,
I heard he's back on radio and Jeremy Piven. This
is alleged, but do you remember he faked that. They
say he may have faked mercury poisoning because he didn't
(30:55):
want to be on a Broadway show he signed up
for and he apparently wasn't happy with it. So the
whole week of the run of the show, they're like,
oh yeah, Pimmin's out with murcury poisoning. He had too
much sushi. Here's here's where it's confusing though, for the fan, right,
because you always want to have the side of the employee, right,
screw the owner, these rich dudes signing checks. But as
(31:18):
a fan, you're rooting for that team, right, So it's
always your you're as a fan, you're in the middle
here exactly. You want to root for the small guy,
but you also want to root for your team. You
all guys messed up your team, like boh, I get it.
dB what's going on my friend fellas.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Very rarely do I like it when people use real
world and sports together, and this is one of those
opportunities where I hate it the most. I just don't
think it's I just don't I think it's apples to oranges,
to grapefruits to bananas. I think it's so different because
there's so many different angles to it.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
You use the bakery thing. If there's a bakery across
the street that's paying you five dollars more an hour,
what are you gonna do, you know, like that to
make your money? Yeah, yeah, exactly, you're gonna leave, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So you think the athletes are are taking advantage of
the situation. Sometimes I do.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Think it works both ways in professional sports. I just
I don't think that it's an apples to apples when
we talk about someone trying to support their family, you know,
you know that's true week.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
In a real life situation. So you're saying the local
baker is not the same as Miles Garrett. Correct. Yes, yes,
you're saying Prince the artist probably knows Prince is not
the same as the guy work at the hospital to donuts.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Yes, George Michael famously had a dispute with Sony you know,
refused to promote and he ended up having to pay
lost the lawsuit you know for it for the violation
of his contract.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Taylor Swift re recorded all her albums so that people
would stop taking money from her.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Sure, sure you guys touched on it, but for those
that missed it. Bengals defensive Entrey Hendrickson has gotten permission
from Cincinnati to seek a trade. He is entering the
final year of his five year deal signed with the Bengals.
Final year would be twenty twenty five. Led the NFL
in sacks this past offseason. The Athletic reported earlier today
that multiple teams called the Bengals about wide receiver t Higgins,
(33:10):
who had the franchise tag placed on him, but right
now Cincinnati wants to work on a long term deal.
Jaguars are trading wide receiver Christian Kirk to the Houston
Texans for a seventh round pick. In twenty twenty six,
Browns restructured the contract of quarterback Deshaun Watson, freeing up
thirty six million dollars in cap space. Rams gave wide
receiver two two at well a.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
One year deal.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Your Niners Rich are letting go of defensive lineman Javon
Hargrave when the new league year begins next week. Jagg
center Mitch Morris retiring from the game after ten seasons.
No Paul George or Tyres Maxey for the Sixers tonight
against the Celtics Arnold Palmer Invitational. Wyndham Clark leads at
five hundred power after a round of sixty seven. Today
Rory McElroy in a group three shots back at two under.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Guys back to you, thank you d be so intrigued
by I'm so intrigued by all these gms trying to,
you know, not manipulate, trying to work the salary cap
like it's it just seems like it's a never that
anytime a team gets good, you have a little window
of time before it's like, yeah, all these guys want
to get paid. I mean, it's obvious, but it's like
you are just trying desperately to be like, can we
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win in this little window? So many, like you said,
the gms are facing the fact that these pros ain't loyal,
and we also have to keep in mind that these
pros have to make their money in that little window
that they've got. It's like I said, you as the
fan are torn in the middle, just rooting for your team,
hoping they stay and then you know, then the GM.
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The obstacle also is all right, I got a couple
guys that are up for that big contract. Who am
I betting on? You know, because you're seeing that on
a lot of teams where when you see a Pro
Bowl level guy get released or like the team's like, yeah,
he can move on, they're pretty much saying, like he's
great now, but I don't think he's the guy I
want long term. It's interesting. Let's also not forget that
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it could be a tactic because as you heard dbsay,
Trey Hendrickson said he's seeking a trade have to having
a big season with the Bengals, DBO, DK, Miles Garrett
and more. Maybe it's just a way of saying, I'm
willing to leave, so let's see what you're willing to
get me. Yeah, true, you know so and.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Quickly the difference Miles, the Browns are like, we're not
trading you, Miles Garrett. The Bengals and Seahawks are like,
go ahead, feel Phil. They may not want those guys back. Yeah,
at Seahawks don't want maybe DK they want to go
younger Bengals like maybe they feel Tray Andrickson's best years
are behind them or don't want to pay him thirty
five million dollars. But the Browns are like, sorry, Miles Garrett,
you can't seek a trade elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, and so you're right dB in that. It's it's
so hard to compare all these I agree with that,
But it's interesting how there's a lot of power there,
a lot of power at the players. All right, we
got more Kavine and Rich. Next we're gonna go fifty.
We're gonna go old school. We hit fifty. Someone's celebrating
a birthday that's very close to the show. We'll be
funny coming up right, Yay, yay. Covino and Rich Live
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from the West Side, Live from the Marios. You live
in the valley. People watch you anyway, lived, I'm representing
the West Side. Covino and Rich Futos Locos Forever eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox Live from the tyrack dot
Com Studio Danny g prefet dB Spotty's here again our
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videos at Covino and Rich Fox Sports radios YouTube page.
If you want to stay in a good mood today,
they'll look at your don't look at your mutual funds
or retirement today. Thanks for reminding me. Yeah, today's nothing.
Dn't look at it. Well, we're gonna celebrate someone's birthday.
About that to make everyone feel a little better. Nice,
But a quick phone call from Seawan and Sacramento Sewing
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make it snappy? What's up?
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Man?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Don't make it snappy? This guy always brings it. I like,
what's up? What's up?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I'll make it quick and I'll bring it to the
same time, fellas. First of all, my brother from another
mother man.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
And second of all, can I just say, Danny G
did y'all proud yesterday?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Man?
Speaker 7 (37:00):
He came on a hot seat with the odd couple
and it was a bigger robbery between Tang, Davis or
Roach over the weekend. They totally stole my man's win.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I don't know who's going on with.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Alex Teischer, but that brings up a bigger point.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Man.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
Nanny G pointed out, that's a big vanilla funny slim
whatever in thirty eight nicknames are is calling everybody out
about his little basketball one shot take can we get
some tournament action between YouTube the Odd Couple and the
Big Vanilla Funny and playing show during the tournament. That's
who's got the sweetest jumper?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Man, I'm trying to see it, Fellas.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I mean, uncontested. Cavino's pretty good, but you get in
his face, you'll block him every time. But it's been
a minute since I've been shooting. Look, I love Big Vanilla, Husky,
Funny Poppy, the guy with the million nicknames. I love him.
I think he's a great broadcaster. I'm not sure I
have the energy for this dude, to be honest, so
I gotta figure it out. If you want it, Sean,
we're gonna have to shootout company. Yeah, if the demand
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is there, I'm down. I'll tell you this. I love
his show, though, Big Vanilla, the Husky Poppy. He he
said that he'll beat anyone in Fox Sports ready on
physical challenges, and I was like, if it's baseball related,
I'm confident I'll beat anyone here. If it's basketball related,
I don't know. We got a guy named Doug Gottlieb
who played college basketball and as a coach, and then
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I said, if it's football, we got LeVar and Brady Quinn.
I said, the only thing VJ vernon Husky will win
is a selfie Jim posed down because the guy posts
a lot of Jim selfie. Honestly, I don't even know
if you win against that. There might be a guy
in the BACKI I put up against him, you know,
spots right there, spot. I think you'd win. In fact,
VJ would win nothing. That's HILARI got him.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I don't know this competing and broadcasting, but hey, if
it's gotta happen, it's gotta happen. Sorry, if it's mini
golfer wiffotball, I got my money on Covino. There you go,
and again we're Covino and Rich. Shout out to the
Big Vanilla funny and shout out to the odd couple.
Danny g The hot seat was fun. Yeah, I gotta
listen back. I love the odd couple, and I love
you guys for hanging out with us. But look it
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is time. Let's go. There's a ya.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
What we're gonna do is go back back into time,
throwing it back for a Thursday. Old School went fifty hits.
That's fifty after CNR give you the time capsule topic
and we reminisce together.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, okay, so we love to reminisce on a Thursday,
throw it back and get you involved. There was a
movie that came out when we were kids, nineteen ninety six.
Nineteen ninety six. That's also when Swingers came out. I
remember because I was way into that movie. I was
in college at the time. Not to date myself, but
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I remember watching this. It got five percent on Rotten Potatoes,
but we all saw it. I'm talking about Kazam. And
the reason we bring up this terrible movie is because
today is Shaq Heille O'Neills fifty third birthday. Shacker Love
Shack Babe. I can't believe up fifty three happy birthday.
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I'm still still handsled and I'm still strong, and I'll
still be Vanilla Funny in basketball. So I look at
it this way. Vanilla, do you think that Funny fifty
three a legend? But he had a stinker known as Kazam. No,
I'm sick and tired. You're fired and get out. So
when you think of the weakest movies most of us
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have seen, what comes to mind. Because I feel like
Kazam because of Shak's popularity. So many people like, oh,
shacks in a movie. I'll just check it out. Can
I kick it off? Please?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Do?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Besides Kazam, the weakest movies we've all seen again. We
want your feedback at eight seven, seven ninety nine on
Fox No Holds Barred Dude, Hulk Holgan and Zeus ty
Zeus Lister. Oh, that was such a great answer, tokyukyu.
We'll take your feedback back CNR on FSR hangtype FO
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