March 12, 2025 • 48 mins
John dives into the 49ers and how they continue to make more cuts to their team and how he doesn't understand how the 49ers expect to be competitive when they are getting rid of so many players that have been impactful. Next, John discusses the Colts signing Daniel Jones and how Anthony Richardson has fallen so much if the Colts feel that Daniel Jones could be a better QB than Richardson.
Later, John talks about Tiger Woods needing surgery to repair a torn achilles and how he continues to get more and more injured as he gets older. After, he dives into the Players Championship and gives you his best bets for this weekend.
6:30 - 49ers cut another
19:17 - Daniel Jones goes to Indy
30:08 - Aaron Rodgers update
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
What is going on? Everybody? How are we doing? John
Middlecoff Little three and out podcast to start because we
had some free agency stuff. Forty nine ers cut, someone
else got rid of half their team. Daniel Jones is
signed with the Colts and as of recording this, obviously
things can change. Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers are still unemployed.
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Now if you listen to us on Wednesday and They've
still signed, I think a lot of what I've talked
about still is valid in terms of it's kind of
crazy how far they have fallen in a short short
period of time. Aaron absolute one of the great quarterbacks
of all time, Russell one of the stars of his generation.
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And we had guys like Geno Smith and Sam Daniel
Jones came off the board before him, and he'd be like,
what the money. It's like, Yeah, Russell wasn't getting fourteen
million dollars market now, who knows Daniel Jones get fourteen million.
Hard to know what actually this money is. But with
these players, so we will dive into that and we
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will do a I'll put go lo on in the end.
Tiger Woods was reported tors Achilles, what a crazy career.
I mean, it's Tor's achilles, just trying to get ready
for the Masters. My man has had a lot of
injuries in his career. I think you can say goodbye
to the Champions Tour, so let Tiger take a cart
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whenever he comes back. We'll also do some the players
this week. Some call it the Fifth Major. I don't
know if I'd go that far, especially now with live,
but it's a damn good tournament. So we'll talk gambling,
who I'm riding with, and then a little bit about
what I saw last week from my hotel room in
terms of Russell Henley taking down Colin Morikow. When I
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saw some more cow was comments in regards to last
week storming off and not talking to the media and
doing a post round interview. Rory netflix the Full Swing
Alls talked about that, so we'll do that at the
end of this podcast, and we'll get back to the
mail bag. I have so many dms saying congrats on
(02:25):
the wedding and wedding related that I couldn't even I
just don't. Honestly, I feel like I got hit by
a ton of bricks. We didn't go on her honeymoon. Basically,
because we had like a six day bender in Nashville,
which also included a wedding. But I do understand why
people go on a honeymoon because I remember telling Maria
It's like, even if we went on the honeymoon, I
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don't think I would have the juice to do anything
besides lay there. It's like, well, maybe that's what people do.
They just kind of lay in the sun. It's like, yeah,
maybe I could use that right now. But yeah, I'm
just I'm on low few. But there's a lot going on.
So we will do a podcast, and other than that,
subscribe to the podcast, subscribe to the YouTube channel, and
(03:08):
again mailbag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire in
those dms and get your questions answered on the show,
because we'll try to do a mailbag for Thursday show.
And who knows, maybe Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers have
teams by then. But let's talk about some football. I
do think, just in general, the free agency period, which
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is really fun. We love transactions in sports, and I'm
all for it. I do think this is a little
JANKI right to have trades and stuff be able to
happen before it becomes official. You could argue, like five days,
maybe not even a couple days after the combine, just
let it rip, Just start free agency on a given day.
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You don't need the tampering, right because free agency has
been going on now for several weeks. It unofficially really
gets going at the combine. So if the combine ends
on a Monday, you could start. And I get it,
it's based on the work week. You wouldn't want to
start all these deals later in the week because you
want to own the news cycle. And I totally understand that,
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but maybe even put more emphasis on the combine. Start
free agency on the Monday right after and just let
people start signing and trading and let it go because
that's where the trades and a lot of these moves happen.
I just think this tampering period is just a complete joke.
It really is. You know, free agency starts Wednesday. I
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think it like noon Eastern or for Eastern or whenever
it does. Well, all these deals are already done, so
Wednesday's kind of a useless day. It's essentially Monday. But
they keep saying, well, Monday, it's actually legal tampering. Guys
can't actually sign. I think we could just cut out
the middleman here and just rip the band aid off
and just let people do what they're actually doing, making transactions,
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doing deals, right, I mean, how often it's very rare.
I can think of one Emmanuel Sanders, but how often
a guy renigs on a deal? Right? So once these
guys like Milton Williams all of a sudden come Wednesday afternoon,
isn't just going to be on the I don't know
Carolina Panthers or the Arizona Cardinals, like he's going to
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be a patriot. So I just I don't know something.
It feels starting to feel these last couple of years
like kind of a waste of the setup, of the
build up, because there is no build up. Stuff just happens.
So just let it happen and let it be official.
Something that was official today and he was on the
unemployment line for I don't know an hour was the
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forty nine ers, And I think it's pretty easy. And
yesterday I did a little rant at the end of
the day after they had officially cut Kyle Yustchek, and
just about the way the forty nine ers have gone
about this and the ramifications of a disastrous negotiation last
year with Brandon Ayuk when he took him to the cleaners.
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I mean he bent them over and took them for
more money than I thought that they should give them,
and they clearly immediately regretted it. And that was before
he had a major knee injury. Things got weird and helped.
They've put him on the trade block for the last
couple of weeks. They don't like him anymore. I've never
seen a team sign a guy to seventy five million
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dollars guaranteed after seventy five catches and then immediately can't
stand the guy. So it's just a disastrous contract. And
the forty nine ers have let every guy go on
their team, and I think on an individual basis, it's
really easy to justify each individually, you know, not connected
to anyone else. Drake Greenlaw injured a lot, torn achilles
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two years ago, got injured a bunch last year when
he tried to came back. Tyler Nola Hufunga injured a lot.
Like it's easy to go through the list. Jalen Moore,
he's been a backup. Can't start. I go well. I
got Trent Williams, but you can't pay a backup of
freem Like, I get it. But today Leonard Floyd, who
started every single game for them, is a pros pro,
super high character guy, I mean a pretty high end
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pass rusher. Not a superstar by any means, but a
guy that you could go to the playoffs with as
one of your rotational defensive ends slash starters. They just cut.
It was like, well, would totally understand it, Like I
got why the Rams cut Cooper Cup. He was gonna
cost them twenty million dollars. It's like, you're not paying
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Cooper Cup in twenty twenty five twenty million dollars. No
one is right, but Leonard Floyd seven and a half
million dollars kind of the going rate for a guy
that is gonna give you nine or ten sacks and
never misses any time, Like that's what they cost. I
just do not understand it. It makes no sense. And
I have to be fair because we're often critical of
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these teams that are cheap, and I've been on the
Bears for years the Bles that the Crafts and the
forty nine ers spent more money than any team in
the league last year in actual cash. Obviously, you have
to be under the salary cap or with the salary
cap on any given year. Because it's a hard cap
in the NFL, that doesn't mean you can't spend way
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more cash than the two hundred the two hundred and
forty the two hundred and fifty million dollars salary cap
right in signing bonuses, and then you can manipulate the
cap well. Last year, the forty nine Ers in twenty
twenty five spent more cash than any team in the
NFL at three hundred and thirty four million dollars. What
was the cap last year, like two hundred and fifty
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million dollars, So almost eighty million dollars more of actual
cap space they spent in cash. I mean it's a
lot of money. No one's arguing that spending on a
workforce of you end up having way more than fifty
three guys, let's say, seventy eighty over the course of
the season, three hundred and thirty million dollars in compensation.
It's a lot. I mean, that's the business these people
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are in. And the Yorks have the team because once
upon a time, one of the greatest owners in the
history of sports, Eddie de Barbelow got caught giving a
brown bag to a politician trying to get a casino
on the water down. I think it was when Louisiana
and the Feds came up and he got in big
trouble and had to give it to his sister, who
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the family is notoriously cheap. Now, Jed York is the figurehead.
They named him the president, and he on the day
to day operation. He's there a lot and he deals
with Kyle and John, but ultimately it is the parents team.
Jed York could not do anything without his parents' approval
when it came to selling the team a huge contract
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to brock Purty. Obviously when they're signing a practice squad guy.
And it depends on the operation. For example, the Eagles
spend a shitload of cash on a yearly basis, not
always one, but always in the top five, top ten
in the way they do signing bonusespecially the last couple
of years have a highly paid team. Jeffrey Leary doesn't
have to ask his parents for any fucking approval. He's
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the boss. He's in charge. Just like if you go
around the league, even the chief teams Clark Hunt doesn't
have to deal with anyone else. If he wants to
have a cheap facility and a bad weight room and
get d's, that's his prerogative. He answers to no one
but himself, No different than Robert Craft. Jonathan Craft isn't
in charge. Robert is. And I think when you look
at the forty nine ers, your team, as Tim Kawakami
(10:29):
tweeted today, they are making a one hundred and forty
million dollars in profit. Honestly, my guests would be it's higher.
But I was talking to my brother at the wedding,
and you know, he deals with a lot of different business.
He's in farming, but they deal in construction. They deal
with so much different stuff. And we were talking about
some of these venture capitalists that come in and purchase companies,
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and typically they like to get like a five to
eight percent profit range. Right, So your profit based on
your total revenue, If it's like five to eight percent,
you're doing pretty well. If the forty nine ers are
making seven to eight hundred million dollars, which I think
is a very fair guess, especially when you look at
their valuation of nine billion dollars, I mean they're making
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fifteen to twenty percent net profit. That is money taken home.
So when I look at the forty nine ers pulling back,
I'm all four not being reckless and not giving out
stupid deals. Have no issue with trading Deebo Samuel, but
to all of a sudden have one season where you
go six and eleven and start pitching pennies like I'm sorry,
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when you're the forty nine Ers, when you're the Lakers,
when you're the Cowboys. Jerry's been crushed over the years
for not spending that much cash when you're the Laker
or the Yankees, the Red Sox craft over the years.
That's fucking embarrassing. It really is, like no one wants
to hear you cry poor. And we talked about this yesterday.
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You cannot give Purty an ungodly amount of money and
cut corners like the Rams just did and expect to win.
Matt Stafford is a better player. He can carry your
team if you're going through a rough patch. He's proven that.
Brock Perdy, if you're going to have a team that
is not going to have dramatically less talent, you're going
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to be in major trouble. Now, if you're cool with
going back to back five, six, seven wins, Okay, but
no one wants to hear that bullshit. So when you
cut Leonard Floyd, like, I just don't see how you
justify that. I really don't. Who again gets a job
in twenty five minutes. It makes no sense. And I
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think the Yorks are kind of going back to their
roots of this cost cutting bullshit and being cheap. And
listen the other thing, like Mike Silver and some of
these guys writing these articles, I do think it's pretty
embarrassing to go basically four or five years in the
NFC Championship and a couple Super Bowls to have one
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awful season. And don't get me wrong, it was bad.
It was a joke. Highest paid team in the league
six and eleven. I'm all for not tolerating that. But
then to just completely change your business plan and try
to go cheap is something like it's hard for me
to get behind. And you go through a little rough season,
some rough waters, and we start getting a bunch of
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leaks about Kyle and John and the owners, like that's
low level bullshit. I mean it really is, because again,
this is a business that is their future revenue is
set in fucking stone. A lot of people, including myself,
like recession hits advertising chains like you would go it
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would change your business dynamics really really quickly. Most people
listening are in fickle industries. Right can be huge swings,
Good times are great, bad times can be right. I
just married a woman who works in real estate, like
seeing the ups and the downs. That ain't the NFL.
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They just signed one hundred billion dollar contract a couple
of years ago which they can easily opt out. We
just saw the NBA, whose viewership has been more than
cut in half, triple their revenue. The NFL is in
a different stratosphere, and those networks that paid for the
NBA would go under without the NFL. So the NFL,
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I think it's fair to say, at least for the
next fifteen plus years, is borderline recession proof, as much
as that is humanly possible in any business. So whenever
you come out like cutting costs like that just a
bad look. It's really kind of embarrassing. No one wants
to hear Genie Buss, the Steinbrenners, like those type people
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talking about it, and just within the last month it
comes out, well, the forty nine ers are valued at
nine billion dollars and they're gonna sell maybe ten percent
for a nice little nine hundred million dollar cash infusion.
And now you're just cutting Leonard Floyd to save a
couple million dollars. I just think that's impossible to justify.
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But I do think if you followed this team for
a long time, this is the Yorks operation, you know,
at their core, when things get weird. When things are
going good, everything's great, everyone's you know, giving Jim Harbaugh
his flowers, everyone's but all of a sudden, you lose
a game, something happens weird. It's like everyone starts pointing
the fingers. I saw this happen ten years ago, and
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now they're kind of doing it again with their roster
all of a sudden, because one six and eleven season.
It's the NFL. It's hard, it sucked. It was hard
to watch. I watched every snap. But I think you've
got to be very careful. People will turn on you fast,
and the consumer is you know. I just that they
cannot comprehend this, and they will not comprehend this because
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I'd argue, based on the math and the numbers, it's
kind of difficult to comprehend it. Really is like, well,
we got to pay party a lot of money, and
then you're coming out saying you're gonna negotiate hard with him,
all for it, not against it. I'd be like, hey,
three years, one hundred and twenty million dollars, I'll guaranteed
take it or leave it. Fuck you, I'm not playing
for that. Okay, see you in camp this what are
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you gonna do? Hold out? Where are you gonna go?
I'm all for that type business. I am pro negotiating
like that. I'm not anti. This isn't some pro player.
You gotta give him all the money all the time.
Bull Shit. We saw that last year with Brandon a
Yuk and it was awful. It was stupid, you know so,
I'm all for a very very difficult negotiation with brock
perty but when you start cutting Leonard Floyd for basically
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no reason, that one's a head scratcher, the biggest head
scratcher of the day. Though by a mile it was
clear last year. Really, the Anthony Richardon experiment has been
an utter disaster, and in fairness to Anthony Richardson, he's
not alone. A lot high picks over the last four
or five years have been really bad, and some of
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them didn't make it very long on their whole on
their own team. Trey Lance didn't even make it to
the start of year three. Zach Wilson was gone after
year four or after year three, Mac Jones gone after
year three. You know, Justin Field's gone after year three.
That class sea the Kenny Picketts like people move now
zero very small amount of patience for these quarterbacks. Coward's
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theory is like year two Thanksgiving, like you're on the
hot seat as a quarterback. Totally get it. But Anthony
Richardson's survival in Indianapolis is now tied to Daniel Jones.
And when I saw a headline from Tom Pelisarro that
he won't demand a trade, It's like, guys, we're not
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talking about Steph Curry in his prime here, We're talking
about a guy that had one of the more embarrassing
moments in the history of the league. And don't take
it from me, just some former scout who talks about
football for a living. Listen to what every player said
last year, every single player, including his teammates. He just
hasn't been very good. He is extremely inaccurate, and he's
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been injured a lot but to bring in Daniel Jones,
who might be worse, is insane. Now, Once upon a
time when the Giants drafted Daniel Jones, I was doing
this show. Many of you probably weren't there. We've had
good growth since. I remember saying, like most people like,
I think there was universal agreement, that's the most insane
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draft pick I think I've ever seen. It was right
up there with well, if the forty nine ers would
have taken Mac Jones at three, that would have been worse.
But it was that level, like you just it's indefensible,
it can't happen. And I remember a good buddy of mine,
who's a high up executive in the NFL that does
the Southern region, was like, I think you're being hard
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on Daniel Jones. I think he's a good player, and
he was well liked in the scouting community. A lot
of people thought he was like Alex Smith. But when
you look at Alex Smith's career, it was really difficult
for him, and his career was, I say, or I believe,
was considered a failure up until Jim Harbaugh showed up
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and resurrected his career, and it wasn't for a year
and a half under Jim Harbaugh. That made Andy Reid
be able to justify when he got the chief job,
I can trade. I think it was like a second
round pick, give him an extension and like making my
starting quarterback and feel good about it. And then under
Andy Reid he became dramatically better than he was under Harbaugh.
And by the end of that run, when Patrick Mahomes
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came around, they could have a big trade to Washington
with Jay Gruden, and Jay Gruden could feel really good
because Alex Smith by that time was just a really
good player. No one, and I mean no one can
say Daniel Jones is just an average player. He is
a blow average player who's never really proven anything. I
mean his one breakout year a couple of years ago
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when they went won nine games. It's not like he
threw forty touchdowns. His career highs twenty. And you watch
him last year. I mean, when that guy loses his confidence,
he looks like me or you off the tee when
we're hitting it out of bounds. I mean, it's really
really bad. It's really bad decision making, like it has
no shot. The balls in the air. You're like, this
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is a problem. And to bring him in to compete
with a guy who not only needs to be competed with,
but probably shouldn't be your starter. Is setting your self
up for failure like that Colts quarterback room Anthony Richardson
and Daniel Jones is really really bad. It really is.
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And to go into the offseason and pound the table,
we need a veteran quarterback and to come out with that.
I think it's a tough one for Colts fans to swallow.
And if I was a Colts fan, I would be
pretty down on where we are. I really would. And
when people started trading for Alex Smith, he could play.
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When they just sign now, who knows what the actual
number is. It could be fake, but it's clear he's
the competition I think is just insanity. And speaking of quarterbacks,
I do think it's fair to say the Tennessee Titans,
if they stay with the number one overall pick and
until they make a trade, I think we have to
assume they are gonna draft number one have two options.
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They either draft Abdul Carter or they draft cam Ward
And based on where we sit on Tuesday afternoon, I
do think it's fair to assume that it's gonna be
the quarterback. Like, I don't think it would have been
crazy if they gave, like, let's just suck and let's
just figure it out. Sign a guy, help Daniel Jones,
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trade for Kenny Pickett, just get someone in who could
at least just function and take snaps. I mean, Will
Levis couldn't even do that. I don't know if there's
actually that big a difference between Will Levis and Daniel Jones. Beside,
Daniel Jones probably a lot smarter, but I don't care
how book smart you are if you're not f ball smart.
But at the end of the day, they haven't signed anybody,
so I think it's fair to assume at this point
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cam Ward is going to be the number one pick
in the draft, and they just push all their chips
in the mind of the table with him and just
kind of reset, and then you get a division of
Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones, cam Ward, Trevor Lawrence, and CJ. Stradd.
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I also think it's pretty nuts and this just shows you,
like I don't do drama. Well, I don't have friends
in my life that bring a lot of drama. The
moment you start bringing a lot of drama and you're
not like my immediate family or my wife or someone
closely associated with her like I'm out, I mean, she
watches some of these shows on Bravo, Southern Charm and
(24:30):
Southern Hospitality that it's like, I wouldn't be friends with
any of these people. These people are just too high maintenance.
I just don't do high maintenance as just casual friendships.
It's just you guys are like an energy drain in
my life. And one thing's pretty clear is that like
once upon a time, Aaron Rodgers, I mean, was being
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a complete pain in the ass, was messing with the packers,
and they still gave without hesitation him one hundred and
fifty million dollars guaranteed. Russell Wilson was fucking with Pete
Carroll and John Schneider for years, for years, but it
was like, he's so good, what are we gonna do?
He's going to Pro Bowls. It is much easier to
have leverage when you're a twenty seven year old smoke
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show than when you're fifty two with three kids and
two divorces. And I think when you look at Russell
Wilson and Aaron Rodgers, it's like the drama the ratio
of like sweet talent, sweet ability. Obviously Aaron in his
prime was much better than Russell, but even then Russell
was still pretty damn good. That it's all a whack,
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and it's all a supply and demand chart, right like
the supplies of the justin Jeffersons relative to the demand.
He is so much better than like ninety eight percent
of everyone else in the league. It's not even funny.
So I'm using him as example. I'm not saying he is,
but if just because receivers when he DK is a
better example three or four years ago, it's like, yeah,
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the DK, you know, it can be tough. Get some
get some penalties. Little got a big personality, sometimes doesn't
always listen. But it's like, where do you find a
six foot four, two hundred and thirty pound four to
two absolute thoroughbread. It's like, you know, you don't, so
you just deal with it. And then after a while
it's like, well, this production's kind of dip in. It's
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like see a piece, You're gone. Happens all the time
at other positions, usually quarterbacks, you get a little more leeway.
And I'm sitting here and by the time you're listening
to this, maybe they have signed. If I would have
told you five years ago that Gino Smith would someone
would have traded a second day pick to acquire him
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and then gonna be willing to give him an extension,
and Sam Darnold would be a free agent and several
days before a team that traded Gino Smith and who
desperately needs a quarterback will give him a decent chunk
of money, while Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers are just
free on the street. Here's the other thing. Pete Carroll,
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who spent the majority of his career around Russell Wilson,
who became, let's face it, a living legend because of Russell.
It validated not only am I a great college coach,
I can win big in the NFL because of this.
Guy could have signed Russell Wilson if he needed a
quarterback had cap space. Instead, he traded a pick on
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a team that needs a lot of talent to get
the guy that replaced Russell Wilson. I mean, think how
fucking nuts that is. I don't ever remember a guy
falling off a cliff harder than Russell Wilson. And honestly,
when you just look at the numbers over the last
three years, as his star has dimmed at just a
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rapid rate, they're not that bad. Fifty eight touchdowns twenty
four picks, so basically a two to one ratio. But
he also has eight rushing touchdowns, so it's like he
has been relatively productive. But don't let the numbers fool you.
If you watched, he's a shell of himself. It got
called out this year was not good, and when he
played better competition, you had no shot Aaron Rodgers. It's
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just like the drama ratio the age. It's like, ah,
we're just out, we are just out, And it shows you.
I said this about Justin Fields. I don't think Justin
Fields can plays. He hasn't proven ever that he can
be a thrower from the pocket. He can run around,
and he's a great athlete, but he's a good guy.
And it was like the Jets are like, yeah, we're
just gonna cut Aaron Rodgers and we're gonna pay this
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guy who I don't even think and I'm speaking for them,
can even play. But you know what, he's just a
good guy. He'll get our franchise back on track. We
don't even necessarily care next year if we win five
or eight games. We just want some normality in the building.
We don't want to be a shit show anymore. And
they chose Justin Fields, who again can't really play, over
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Aaron Rodgers, who it's not like he was making fifty
million dollars a year. Remember he gave Woody thirty five
million dollar pay cut. So it just shows you and listen,
I can get a little crazy. We all can. We
all can have our bad days. But over the course
of time and in a business like football, where you
spend a lot of time with people, treating people right,
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and you know, Aaron's just I think viewed as a
little out there, Russell's just kind of viewed as a phony, right,
and just drama. Drama follows these people. Do you know what,
No successful person wants to deal with drama that's unnecessary,
especially drama from highly paid employees. Again, if you are
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Robert de Niro or Leonardo DiCaprio in their prime, the
studio is gonna handle you. But the moment you start
like being terrible and not being able to move the
needle for a movie, like, I'm not going to hire
you to fucking be on my movie set. And that's
what it feels like with these two guys. They became
so famous, they became so kind of out of touch,
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and in fairness, is more Russell than Aaron. Like Aaron's
forty one years old, and he had an incredible run.
And I hate even comparing these two because Aaron is
dramatically better than Russell, and Russell was a damn good player.
I mean, Aaron, you could make the argument the top
five or six quarterback of all time. But I think
both these guys should have job. Like if both these
guys were just completely normal and just acted fine, right,
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just for like mats like Matt Stafford is get along
with people. Just everyone likes them, never had really any issues.
They would both be on teams right now. But it's
the off field stuff, which again is impossible to really
It's easier to quantify Aaron, you know, ayahuasca and shit
than Russell's. But it's like, I'm not touching you because
the approval rating from all these gms. I mean, think
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how many teams a week ago needed a quarterback. We're
just a bridge quarterback that still might even draft a
team a guy. And I'm like, yeah, we'll just take
our time. We'll see what their market is. We'll see
these are guys that have made hundreds of millions of dollars.
There were always the max guys and now the head
coaches Ocson GM's like, yeah, we're good. I'll just I'll
just figure it out with cam Ward. You know, I
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almost I had my weeks messed up and I thought
the Players was next week. Maybe I was just discombobulated
from the wedding. And then I realized late Monday night
that the Players is this week, and I realized, well,
I got to do a little go low because I'm
going to gamble on it. I have a large wager
on the vig. I put together a little parlay from
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my friends at DraftKings, and I was like, I want
to do a little golf today. And then I'm at
the gym today, soaking out my entire life from about
six day bender in Nashville. And I go up to
the cafeteria, nice little gym, and I get some food,
and I see Tiger Woods has torn his achilles, which
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would be crazy if, like Tiger Woods was an active
member on the PGA Tour, and he's clearly not, though
he dabbles in the TGL which he owns, but his
team's terrible. But it's just a pretty jarring moment. So
I do want to dive into that. I did watch
in my hotel room a little Saturday before he got married,
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and then a bunch Sunday the Arnold Palmer. So let's
dive into golf. Pretty fired up on some picks as well.
But I do want to start before we dive into
the players, before we talk about what happened last week.
Tiger Woods. I've been saying this forever. If you just
look at his body and the surgeries the guy has had,
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and obviously some are weight room and just wear and
tear of grinding on a golf range, which obviously the
golf swing is not a normal movement right with your back,
with your knees, the pressure points in the I think
there's a fair at one point in time before Tiger
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started getting hurt like inn Oh, when he messed up
his knee at Torrey Pines in eight there probably weren't
many humans over the course of like twenty five thirty
years who had taken more golf swings than Tiger Woods.
So his body is like if you ever met someone
and just because when I worked in radio, I was
going to a lot of Warrior games and going to
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a lot of NFL games, you would meet these older
guys that played in the NFL in the NBA in
like the seventies or eighties, and most of them don't
look like Howie Long on television. Some of these NBA players,
it's like they have seven different limps. I'll never forget.
The Warriors were playing the Houston Rockets in a playoff series,
and you know, both coaches give a pregame and a
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postgame press conference, and watching Kevin McHale get to his
pregame press conference, you felt like you needed to ask him,
like you need help. It was really really hard for
him to walk. And the technology those guys have, the
shoes they played on, obviously, the injuries in football, the
surfaces they played on. It's crazy they can even move.
And that's how Wood's body is right now and when
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you see and then obviously the car accident, which he's
lucky he didn't lose his leg, which is basically cemented
together with rods and this achilles. Like what really sucks
is I saw someone tweeting a couple of weeks ago
when they had that rich guy member pro member whatever
they call it at Seminole. Tom Brady's in it, Tiger
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was in it, and people tweeting that, like Tiger was.
I think he played with Kegan Bradley or Jason Day
or some really good player was also in his group,
and Tiger's like blasting it by him or hitting him
by Like Tiger's pretty good player when he can play.
And I do believe that that car accident at the
Genesis really ended his career. But I think it's fair
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to say that this is like the cherry on top,
like it's completely over. And I know he mentioned the
rehab process, but I do wonder when you have this
many different injuries and you have this many I mean,
why do so many guys get injured after they've been
injured Because your body is overcompensating. Remember it happened to
Klay Thompson when he tore his acl in the NBA
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finals and then a year later he tore his achilles
because you start putting more pressure on the opposite ligaments.
You don't have to go to medical school, you just
have to follow sports to realize it happens all the time.
And the amount of injuries Tigers had, especially to his
lower body in his back, it just feels like it's
kind of time for him to just officially retire and
take on a different role, and he started to do
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that over the last couple of years, but it kind
of hit me today like there's a chance he might
never play in any of these tournaments again. And there
was no guarantee that he was even going to make
it to the Masters in a month, right, So it's
just kind of a brutal end and to me where
it really crystallized. And he's been gone for a while,
but he'll come back every once in a while, Like
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a couple of years ago, came back to the Masters
and it was a really big deal. A couple of
years ago he plays at the old Course and it's
a really big deal. And he has three or four
of those moments every year, him and him and Charlie
this year battling out with the Longers, which I think
is one of the cooler events, especially now that Charlie
plays in it. I would imagine this injury in March
probably pops out for the PNC come this fall. It
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sucks for Charlie, but the necessary just kind of demand
of getting these guys all back together because Tiger was
a one man rocket ship that could carry the sport
for twenty plus years and on individual weeks they could
do ratings that like the NBA would die for. Well,
those days are gone and now we have this split
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up tour. And I on the plane ride to Nashville,
on the plane ride home, I downloaded like four or
five episodes a full Swing. I actually think it's pretty
good this season. It's just, you know, an easy watch.
It's entertaining. The Rory stuff is just the Scottish stuff.
It's just pretty good, and it just really makes you realize,
like you can have moments, right, like tennis and golf
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where you just have these transcendent figures. Like when I
was growing up, my dad loved tennis because he loved
the macen Roe, Boris Becker, kind of the eighties of tennis,
and then I remember kind of just Pete Sampras and
Andre Agassi were just massive superstars and happened what has
happened over the years in racing, whether it be NASCAR
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here to Formula One internationally, Like when you get these
superstar names, they can carry the sport, and golf had
that in a special special way with Tiger Woods, and
now they're much more dependent. Like one guy can't carry you,
Rory can't carry you, Bryson can't carry you. But the
group of four or five guys can and you can't
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have them split up. So Tiger's done and he's been done.
But like this officially ends it, and it's just time
to figure it out, move forward and stop fucking around
on the players. So a couple of weeks, I guess
it would have been like a month to go. When
Ludwig won at Tory, I had a bunch of bets
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out and I hit one for and I've mentioned this
before for Tony Finow, and I immediately took the profits.
It was like fifteen hundred bucks, and I put one
thousand dollars on Ludwig to win this week and I
put the other five hundred dollars on him to win
the Masters. So that's when I first got into golf betting.
One of the first bets I think it was the
first outright bet I had ever hit, was justin Thomas
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to win the Players, like four or five years ago,
maybe it was three or four years ago, And it
was an incredible feeling because any of one that listens
to this knows if you bet football, like if you
take a big underdog that's like plus two hundred, right,
so you're basically getting one hundred dollars to win two hundred,
wherein golf you can get a blue chipper at twenty
to one, twenty five to one, sixteen to one. Right.
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Scottie Scheffler's kind of gone into rare territory where he's
like a four to one golfer that is not normal
in like DJ's prime and Rom's prime. She's like nine
ten to one in the next crew is twelve, fourteen,
eighteen and one thing I've learned it is very, very
difficult to build to bet winners. It's why I like betting.
I mean, one thing I've gotten much more into is
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betting the top tens in top twenties. But I think
on this individual week, like I'm just hoping Ludwig it'd
be pretty incredible. I'm fired up excited to watch him.
But Justin Thomas has won here before. And this is
a ball striker's course, like the shot making that it
takes in one it could be windy, but this is
a quirky course. This is not TBC Scottsdale where you
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can just kind of blast it around. I mean there
are problem areas hitting the trees, you can hit in
the water. There are just disastrous to be had. There
are also low numbers to be had because there are
reachable par fives. And when Justin Thomas, and you've got
to be able to kind of work the ball both ways,
especially hit a draw off your right handed player. So
when I look at Justin Thomas, who is like a
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throwback old school just can manipulate the golf ball and
he's great around the greens, not putting wise always, but
you know with a wedge in his hand like he
won here for a reason. And to me, you get
him in the top twenty, like you can get plus
odds on him. Keegan Bradley, who has played here well
multiple times. I mean was on pace at one point
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in time last week at Arnold Palmer, which is a
very tough place to play. Bahill shot like sixty. I mean,
he was on fire. And he's in this weird spot
of like he's the Ryder Cup captain. He said he
won't pick himself so he'd have to qualify top six
and even then I think he'd be a little uncomfortable.
But he just has this weird motivation. To me, I
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just watched it, but he looks like he's playing really well.
Same thing with Jason Day. So I'm taking Justin Thomas,
Keegan Bradley, and Jason Day two top twenty. I think
some of the top guys. I was watching Golf Channel
to day at the gym and Scott he's got about
four coaches out there. He's kind of shrugging his shoulders
and he had a driver in his hand. I saw
he was on the putting green. Xander missed like three months.
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You got Colin Morikawa, who in last week Russell Henley,
who has resurrected his career in his thirties and it's
been awesome to watch. He's just like this gritty Honestly,
Russell Henley feels like the type of guy that was
on the PGA Tour when I was a kid, pre Tiger,
Like when you turned on and it was the Faldo,
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Greg Norman era, Tom Watson was still around. You know
guys like that, you know young VJ. Singh, Ernie Els,
Phil Mickelson, some of those guys right before Tiger came
in the late nineties, there were a lot of guys
that kind of had vibes like Russell Henley. Russell Henley
does not feel like this modern day player who just
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swinging out of his ass trying to hit it four
hundred yards. He's just a good golfer and he's playing Morikawa.
He chips in on sixteen, which if he didn't chip
in it might have been way by, but he does it,
flips it, he ends up winning it, and then Morikawa
a lot like Rory last year at the US Open,
storms out and doesn't talk to the press. I don't
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know why we still call it the press Basically just
doesn't give an interview, and I saw Morikawa, like Rory
said on full swing, like I didn't want to talk
to anybody. I'm not in the mood. And more COWI
even used like I don't owe you guys anything, and
I was thinking, like, yeah, you don't owe these media
members with credential. That's not who you're talking to. Can
you imagine Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, you know, like
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when the Bills beat the Ravens. Can you imagine if
just after the post game, Lamar Jackson's like, I'm fucking
going home. I don't owe anyone anything, He'd be fined.
Can you imagine if after the Chiefs beat the Bills
in the AFC Championship game, Josh Allen was like, yeah,
I'm just I'm just not talking like no, that's not
the way it works. And one thing he got me thinking,
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I don't blame call him Marikawa. He lives in this
world that just thinks all this money is just showing up.
It's because of the consumer, not the PGA tour. Not
even the only reason that these networks gave you that
much money is they thought way more people were going
to watch. But the reason these leagues mandate this shit
in the NFL, in the NBA because it's good content
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and it keeps the business model rolling. And I think
these players just are in la la land, which how
much money is behind the reason that the PGA tour
can't sustain this without getting back with the live guys
is because their business model is all fucked up. The
ratings have been down the last couple of years despite
getting a gigantic television deal. And if I was in
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Colin more cow Isshoes, I probably would storm out too.
If I just blew it, it would have been you know. Besides,
he obviously he's won a couple of majors, even though
you know, COVID majors. But still, I mean, he's got
two majors. I probably storm out to. I'd be furious,
I'd be mad. How often do you think NFL guys
want to storm out, especially the quarterbacks. That's what we're
talking about. We're not talking about a guard, We're not
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talking about Mark Andrews face. The music that's part of
the business, and that's great for the business. And then
the next day it gets everybody, aka the consumer, the
most important person, talking about it, and you just don't
say anything. Now. Rory, I would say, is in a
different level right than Colin. But there has to be like,
there has to be mandates, and this is the type
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stuff that golf has to figure out. Not everyone can
just be out for themselves. That's not how all these
other sports, especially football, which is in a different stratosphere
than you would ever think about operating, they would not
allow it. And if you do skip, I'm gonna find
you fifty k because that's what happens in the NFL.
Cam Newton literally wouldn't jump on a fumble. He had
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to talk after the Super Bowl, so Colin at least
Rory was the US Open. This is the bail, like
Arnold Palmer that no one even likes, and the players
the next week not the end of the world. Get
up there, even if your answers suck. It is just
good to get because honestly, once Rory started talking on
full swing, it was fascinating to hear his mindset about
missing that putt in sixteen. He thought that he blew
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it because he gave Bryce a shot. Like that's the
type stuff people want to hear about. I just I
think sometimes when people become so rich like in the NFL,
Mahomes like his business is providing that, you know. In
the NBA, sometimes it's like guys can be out of
touch because the business is making so much money based
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on a contract that is all out of whack. And
it's like, I think these guys have a false sense
of like how lucky they are to be in this
position given that the audience is not there, and I
put golf right there. The NFL, like they can be
a little cocky. Josh Allen's like Patrick Mahomes, like, we
just got fifty million people to watch us fucking play football,
and they're speaking facts. No one everyone else is dealing
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with diminishing returns and this, honestly, it's like one of
the great legal scams going in America with Jay Monahan
and the deal that they cut with these networks because
they need inventory, but it's not based on how many
people are watching. And that's why we hear so often
about the ratings because it's kind of problem and I
think these players is like, you know, there's one guy
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that really moved the needle. Most of these other people
do not, So I think that really needs to be
kind of figured out. And yeah, I'm a sucker for
the Florida Swing. Love the players, and like I said,
I think anytime you can get ball strikers like j T.
You know j T plus odds but Keegan and Jason
Day like two to one to top twenty, it gives
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you so much, you know, margin for air. And honestly,
I wouldn't even feel that comfortable if I hadn't done
the Ludwig thing betting on an outright. You know, Shane
Lowry's been playing really well. He's a guy. But I
heard someone say that they thought this was more of
a drawers course than a fader's course for right hander.
You know, Tommy Fleetwood has never won, but he would
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fall into that category in theory. Rory would fall into
that category as well. But uh yeah. Other than that,
I feel for Tiger. I mean, you talk about a guy.
I just don't think in the history of life when
it comes to athletes, we have seen a more weathered
I mean we're talking about golf. The guy is put
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together like he played right tackle from nineteen seventy one
to nineteen eighty four. It's like Tiger's just played golf,
and I mean his back's fused, his ankles fuse, his
achilles ripped, his ACL's gone, his leg's broken, he got
a club to the tooth. He just had a lot
of shit happen. I remember, I got a buddy who
played on the tour for a long time. We bullshit
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about football a lot, and he texted me one time
after something happened to Tiger. He's like, I don't think
there's ever quite been a life like that. And I
think there are certain individuals. You know, Tigers involved highs
and money and a lot of pain, But like Michael Jackson,
when you just see stuff on Michael Jackson, you're just like,
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he led a life unlike any human being, you know,
good and the bad. It would ruin and fuck up everybody.
And some of this stuff with Tiger self inflicted. There's
no way around it. But you know, the guy's just
trying to hopefully get dialed enough for the Masters his achilles,
just so he could play. Probably, I guess he's never
missed the cut. But even if he just comes out
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there hits a couple of balls, even if he missed
the cut, no one would even care. And his achilles pops.
My god, I mean, oh man, I just that guy's
life been pretty crazy. I know me. I couldn't. I
wouldn't have the energy to get behind that bad boy. Yeah,
I would have tapped out of like twenty five years
old and they're like this, I've had enough. The volume
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
What is going on? Everybody? How are we doing? John
Middlecoff Little three and out podcast to start because we
had some free agency stuff. Forty nine ers cut, someone
else got rid of half their team. Daniel Jones is
signed with the Colts and as of recording this, obviously
things can change. Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers are still unemployed.
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Now if you listen to us on Wednesday and They've
still signed, I think a lot of what I've talked
about still is valid in terms of it's kind of
crazy how far they have fallen in a short short
period of time. Aaron absolute one of the great quarterbacks
of all time, Russell one of the stars of his generation.
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And we had guys like Geno Smith and Sam Daniel
Jones came off the board before him, and he'd be like,
what the money. It's like, Yeah, Russell wasn't getting fourteen
million dollars market now, who knows Daniel Jones get fourteen million.
Hard to know what actually this money is. But with
these players, so we will dive into that and we
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will do a I'll put go lo on in the end.
Tiger Woods was reported tors Achilles, what a crazy career.
I mean, it's Tor's achilles, just trying to get ready
for the Masters. My man has had a lot of
injuries in his career. I think you can say goodbye
to the Champions Tour, so let Tiger take a cart
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whenever he comes back. We'll also do some the players
this week. Some call it the Fifth Major. I don't
know if I'd go that far, especially now with live,
but it's a damn good tournament. So we'll talk gambling,
who I'm riding with, and then a little bit about
what I saw last week from my hotel room in
terms of Russell Henley taking down Colin Morikow. When I
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saw some more cow was comments in regards to last
week storming off and not talking to the media and
doing a post round interview. Rory netflix the Full Swing
Alls talked about that, so we'll do that at the
end of this podcast, and we'll get back to the
mail bag. I have so many dms saying congrats on
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the wedding and wedding related that I couldn't even I
just don't. Honestly, I feel like I got hit by
a ton of bricks. We didn't go on her honeymoon. Basically,
because we had like a six day bender in Nashville,
which also included a wedding. But I do understand why
people go on a honeymoon because I remember telling Maria
It's like, even if we went on the honeymoon, I
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don't think I would have the juice to do anything
besides lay there. It's like, well, maybe that's what people do.
They just kind of lay in the sun. It's like, yeah,
maybe I could use that right now. But yeah, I'm
just I'm on low few. But there's a lot going on.
So we will do a podcast, and other than that,
subscribe to the podcast, subscribe to the YouTube channel, and
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again mailbag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire in
those dms and get your questions answered on the show,
because we'll try to do a mailbag for Thursday show.
And who knows, maybe Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers have
teams by then. But let's talk about some football. I
do think, just in general, the free agency period, which
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is really fun. We love transactions in sports, and I'm
all for it. I do think this is a little
JANKI right to have trades and stuff be able to
happen before it becomes official. You could argue, like five days,
maybe not even a couple days after the combine, just
let it rip, Just start free agency on a given day.
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You don't need the tampering, right because free agency has
been going on now for several weeks. It unofficially really
gets going at the combine. So if the combine ends
on a Monday, you could start. And I get it,
it's based on the work week. You wouldn't want to
start all these deals later in the week because you
want to own the news cycle. And I totally understand that,
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but maybe even put more emphasis on the combine. Start
free agency on the Monday right after and just let
people start signing and trading and let it go because
that's where the trades and a lot of these moves happen.
I just think this tampering period is just a complete joke.
It really is. You know, free agency starts Wednesday. I
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think it like noon Eastern or for Eastern or whenever
it does. Well, all these deals are already done, so
Wednesday's kind of a useless day. It's essentially Monday. But
they keep saying, well, Monday, it's actually legal tampering. Guys
can't actually sign. I think we could just cut out
the middleman here and just rip the band aid off
and just let people do what they're actually doing, making transactions,
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doing deals, right, I mean, how often it's very rare.
I can think of one Emmanuel Sanders, but how often
a guy renigs on a deal? Right? So once these
guys like Milton Williams all of a sudden come Wednesday afternoon,
isn't just going to be on the I don't know
Carolina Panthers or the Arizona Cardinals, like he's going to
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be a patriot. So I just I don't know something.
It feels starting to feel these last couple of years
like kind of a waste of the setup, of the
build up, because there is no build up. Stuff just happens.
So just let it happen and let it be official.
Something that was official today and he was on the
unemployment line for I don't know an hour was the
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forty nine ers, And I think it's pretty easy. And
yesterday I did a little rant at the end of
the day after they had officially cut Kyle Yustchek, and
just about the way the forty nine ers have gone
about this and the ramifications of a disastrous negotiation last
year with Brandon Ayuk when he took him to the cleaners.
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I mean he bent them over and took them for
more money than I thought that they should give them,
and they clearly immediately regretted it. And that was before
he had a major knee injury. Things got weird and helped.
They've put him on the trade block for the last
couple of weeks. They don't like him anymore. I've never
seen a team sign a guy to seventy five million
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dollars guaranteed after seventy five catches and then immediately can't
stand the guy. So it's just a disastrous contract. And
the forty nine ers have let every guy go on
their team, and I think on an individual basis, it's
really easy to justify each individually, you know, not connected
to anyone else. Drake Greenlaw injured a lot, torn achilles
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two years ago, got injured a bunch last year when
he tried to came back. Tyler Nola Hufunga injured a lot.
Like it's easy to go through the list. Jalen Moore,
he's been a backup. Can't start. I go well. I
got Trent Williams, but you can't pay a backup of
freem Like, I get it. But today Leonard Floyd, who
started every single game for them, is a pros pro,
super high character guy, I mean a pretty high end
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pass rusher. Not a superstar by any means, but a
guy that you could go to the playoffs with as
one of your rotational defensive ends slash starters. They just cut.
It was like, well, would totally understand it, Like I
got why the Rams cut Cooper Cup. He was gonna
cost them twenty million dollars. It's like, you're not paying
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Cooper Cup in twenty twenty five twenty million dollars. No
one is right, but Leonard Floyd seven and a half
million dollars kind of the going rate for a guy
that is gonna give you nine or ten sacks and
never misses any time, Like that's what they cost. I
just do not understand it. It makes no sense. And
I have to be fair because we're often critical of
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these teams that are cheap, and I've been on the
Bears for years the Bles that the Crafts and the
forty nine ers spent more money than any team in
the league last year in actual cash. Obviously, you have
to be under the salary cap or with the salary
cap on any given year. Because it's a hard cap
in the NFL, that doesn't mean you can't spend way
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more cash than the two hundred the two hundred and
forty the two hundred and fifty million dollars salary cap
right in signing bonuses, and then you can manipulate the
cap well. Last year, the forty nine Ers in twenty
twenty five spent more cash than any team in the
NFL at three hundred and thirty four million dollars. What
was the cap last year, like two hundred and fifty
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million dollars, So almost eighty million dollars more of actual
cap space they spent in cash. I mean it's a
lot of money. No one's arguing that spending on a
workforce of you end up having way more than fifty
three guys, let's say, seventy eighty over the course of
the season, three hundred and thirty million dollars in compensation.
It's a lot. I mean, that's the business these people
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are in. And the Yorks have the team because once
upon a time, one of the greatest owners in the
history of sports, Eddie de Barbelow got caught giving a
brown bag to a politician trying to get a casino
on the water down. I think it was when Louisiana
and the Feds came up and he got in big
trouble and had to give it to his sister, who
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the family is notoriously cheap. Now, Jed York is the figurehead.
They named him the president, and he on the day
to day operation. He's there a lot and he deals
with Kyle and John, but ultimately it is the parents team.
Jed York could not do anything without his parents' approval
when it came to selling the team a huge contract
(09:43):
to brock Purty. Obviously when they're signing a practice squad guy.
And it depends on the operation. For example, the Eagles
spend a shitload of cash on a yearly basis, not
always one, but always in the top five, top ten
in the way they do signing bonusespecially the last couple
of years have a highly paid team. Jeffrey Leary doesn't
have to ask his parents for any fucking approval. He's
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the boss. He's in charge. Just like if you go
around the league, even the chief teams Clark Hunt doesn't
have to deal with anyone else. If he wants to
have a cheap facility and a bad weight room and
get d's, that's his prerogative. He answers to no one
but himself, No different than Robert Craft. Jonathan Craft isn't
in charge. Robert is. And I think when you look
at the forty nine ers, your team, as Tim Kawakami
(10:29):
tweeted today, they are making a one hundred and forty
million dollars in profit. Honestly, my guests would be it's higher.
But I was talking to my brother at the wedding,
and you know, he deals with a lot of different business.
He's in farming, but they deal in construction. They deal
with so much different stuff. And we were talking about
some of these venture capitalists that come in and purchase companies,
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and typically they like to get like a five to
eight percent profit range. Right, So your profit based on
your total revenue, If it's like five to eight percent,
you're doing pretty well. If the forty nine ers are
making seven to eight hundred million dollars, which I think
is a very fair guess, especially when you look at
their valuation of nine billion dollars, I mean they're making
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fifteen to twenty percent net profit. That is money taken home.
So when I look at the forty nine ers pulling back,
I'm all four not being reckless and not giving out
stupid deals. Have no issue with trading Deebo Samuel, but
to all of a sudden have one season where you
go six and eleven and start pitching pennies like I'm sorry,
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when you're the forty nine Ers, when you're the Lakers,
when you're the Cowboys. Jerry's been crushed over the years
for not spending that much cash when you're the Laker
or the Yankees, the Red Sox craft over the years.
That's fucking embarrassing. It really is, like no one wants
to hear you cry poor. And we talked about this yesterday.
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You cannot give Purty an ungodly amount of money and
cut corners like the Rams just did and expect to win.
Matt Stafford is a better player. He can carry your
team if you're going through a rough patch. He's proven that.
Brock Perdy, if you're going to have a team that
is not going to have dramatically less talent, you're going
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to be in major trouble. Now, if you're cool with
going back to back five, six, seven wins, Okay, but
no one wants to hear that bullshit. So when you
cut Leonard Floyd, like, I just don't see how you
justify that. I really don't. Who again gets a job
in twenty five minutes. It makes no sense. And I
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think the Yorks are kind of going back to their
roots of this cost cutting bullshit and being cheap. And
listen the other thing, like Mike Silver and some of
these guys writing these articles, I do think it's pretty
embarrassing to go basically four or five years in the
NFC Championship and a couple Super Bowls to have one
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awful season. And don't get me wrong, it was bad.
It was a joke. Highest paid team in the league
six and eleven. I'm all for not tolerating that. But
then to just completely change your business plan and try
to go cheap is something like it's hard for me
to get behind. And you go through a little rough season,
some rough waters, and we start getting a bunch of
(13:24):
leaks about Kyle and John and the owners, like that's
low level bullshit. I mean it really is, because again,
this is a business that is their future revenue is
set in fucking stone. A lot of people, including myself,
like recession hits advertising chains like you would go it
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would change your business dynamics really really quickly. Most people
listening are in fickle industries. Right can be huge swings,
Good times are great, bad times can be right. I
just married a woman who works in real estate, like
seeing the ups and the downs. That ain't the NFL.
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They just signed one hundred billion dollar contract a couple
of years ago which they can easily opt out. We
just saw the NBA, whose viewership has been more than
cut in half, triple their revenue. The NFL is in
a different stratosphere, and those networks that paid for the
NBA would go under without the NFL. So the NFL,
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I think it's fair to say, at least for the
next fifteen plus years, is borderline recession proof, as much
as that is humanly possible in any business. So whenever
you come out like cutting costs like that just a
bad look. It's really kind of embarrassing. No one wants
to hear Genie Buss, the Steinbrenners, like those type people
(14:53):
talking about it, and just within the last month it
comes out, well, the forty nine ers are valued at
nine billion dollars and they're gonna sell maybe ten percent
for a nice little nine hundred million dollar cash infusion.
And now you're just cutting Leonard Floyd to save a
couple million dollars. I just think that's impossible to justify.
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But I do think if you followed this team for
a long time, this is the Yorks operation, you know,
at their core, when things get weird. When things are
going good, everything's great, everyone's you know, giving Jim Harbaugh
his flowers, everyone's but all of a sudden, you lose
a game, something happens weird. It's like everyone starts pointing
the fingers. I saw this happen ten years ago, and
(15:36):
now they're kind of doing it again with their roster
all of a sudden, because one six and eleven season.
It's the NFL. It's hard, it sucked. It was hard
to watch. I watched every snap. But I think you've
got to be very careful. People will turn on you fast,
and the consumer is you know. I just that they
cannot comprehend this, and they will not comprehend this because
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I'd argue, based on the math and the numbers, it's
kind of difficult to comprehend it. Really is like, well,
we got to pay party a lot of money, and
then you're coming out saying you're gonna negotiate hard with him,
all for it, not against it. I'd be like, hey,
three years, one hundred and twenty million dollars, I'll guaranteed
take it or leave it. Fuck you, I'm not playing
for that. Okay, see you in camp this what are
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you gonna do? Hold out? Where are you gonna go?
I'm all for that type business. I am pro negotiating
like that. I'm not anti. This isn't some pro player.
You gotta give him all the money all the time.
Bull Shit. We saw that last year with Brandon a
Yuk and it was awful. It was stupid, you know so,
I'm all for a very very difficult negotiation with brock
perty but when you start cutting Leonard Floyd for basically
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no reason, that one's a head scratcher, the biggest head
scratcher of the day. Though by a mile it was
clear last year. Really, the Anthony Richardon experiment has been
an utter disaster, and in fairness to Anthony Richardson, he's
not alone. A lot high picks over the last four
or five years have been really bad, and some of
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them didn't make it very long on their whole on
their own team. Trey Lance didn't even make it to
the start of year three. Zach Wilson was gone after
year four or after year three, Mac Jones gone after
year three. You know, Justin Field's gone after year three.
That class sea the Kenny Picketts like people move now
zero very small amount of patience for these quarterbacks. Coward's
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theory is like year two Thanksgiving, like you're on the
hot seat as a quarterback. Totally get it. But Anthony
Richardson's survival in Indianapolis is now tied to Daniel Jones.
And when I saw a headline from Tom Pelisarro that
he won't demand a trade, It's like, guys, we're not
(17:50):
talking about Steph Curry in his prime here, We're talking
about a guy that had one of the more embarrassing
moments in the history of the league. And don't take
it from me, just some former scout who talks about
football for a living. Listen to what every player said
last year, every single player, including his teammates. He just
hasn't been very good. He is extremely inaccurate, and he's
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been injured a lot but to bring in Daniel Jones,
who might be worse, is insane. Now, Once upon a
time when the Giants drafted Daniel Jones, I was doing
this show. Many of you probably weren't there. We've had
good growth since. I remember saying, like most people like,
I think there was universal agreement, that's the most insane
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draft pick I think I've ever seen. It was right
up there with well, if the forty nine ers would
have taken Mac Jones at three, that would have been worse.
But it was that level, like you just it's indefensible,
it can't happen. And I remember a good buddy of mine,
who's a high up executive in the NFL that does
the Southern region, was like, I think you're being hard
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on Daniel Jones. I think he's a good player, and
he was well liked in the scouting community. A lot
of people thought he was like Alex Smith. But when
you look at Alex Smith's career, it was really difficult
for him, and his career was, I say, or I believe,
was considered a failure up until Jim Harbaugh showed up
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and resurrected his career, and it wasn't for a year
and a half under Jim Harbaugh. That made Andy Reid
be able to justify when he got the chief job,
I can trade. I think it was like a second
round pick, give him an extension and like making my
starting quarterback and feel good about it. And then under
Andy Reid he became dramatically better than he was under Harbaugh.
And by the end of that run, when Patrick Mahomes
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came around, they could have a big trade to Washington
with Jay Gruden, and Jay Gruden could feel really good
because Alex Smith by that time was just a really
good player. No one, and I mean no one can
say Daniel Jones is just an average player. He is
a blow average player who's never really proven anything. I
mean his one breakout year a couple of years ago
(19:59):
when they went won nine games. It's not like he
threw forty touchdowns. His career highs twenty. And you watch
him last year. I mean, when that guy loses his confidence,
he looks like me or you off the tee when
we're hitting it out of bounds. I mean, it's really
really bad. It's really bad decision making, like it has
no shot. The balls in the air. You're like, this
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is a problem. And to bring him in to compete
with a guy who not only needs to be competed with,
but probably shouldn't be your starter. Is setting your self
up for failure like that Colts quarterback room Anthony Richardson
and Daniel Jones is really really bad. It really is.
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And to go into the offseason and pound the table,
we need a veteran quarterback and to come out with that.
I think it's a tough one for Colts fans to swallow.
And if I was a Colts fan, I would be
pretty down on where we are. I really would. And
when people started trading for Alex Smith, he could play.
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When they just sign now, who knows what the actual
number is. It could be fake, but it's clear he's
the competition I think is just insanity. And speaking of quarterbacks,
I do think it's fair to say the Tennessee Titans,
if they stay with the number one overall pick and
until they make a trade, I think we have to
assume they are gonna draft number one have two options.
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They either draft Abdul Carter or they draft cam Ward
And based on where we sit on Tuesday afternoon, I
do think it's fair to assume that it's gonna be
the quarterback. Like, I don't think it would have been
crazy if they gave, like, let's just suck and let's
just figure it out. Sign a guy, help Daniel Jones,
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trade for Kenny Pickett, just get someone in who could
at least just function and take snaps. I mean, Will
Levis couldn't even do that. I don't know if there's
actually that big a difference between Will Levis and Daniel Jones. Beside,
Daniel Jones probably a lot smarter, but I don't care
how book smart you are if you're not f ball smart.
But at the end of the day, they haven't signed anybody,
so I think it's fair to assume at this point
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cam Ward is going to be the number one pick
in the draft, and they just push all their chips
in the mind of the table with him and just
kind of reset, and then you get a division of
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I also think it's pretty nuts and this just shows you,
like I don't do drama. Well, I don't have friends
in my life that bring a lot of drama. The
moment you start bringing a lot of drama and you're
not like my immediate family or my wife or someone
closely associated with her like I'm out, I mean, she
watches some of these shows on Bravo, Southern Charm and
(24:30):
Southern Hospitality that it's like, I wouldn't be friends with
any of these people. These people are just too high maintenance.
I just don't do high maintenance as just casual friendships.
It's just you guys are like an energy drain in
my life. And one thing's pretty clear is that like
once upon a time, Aaron Rodgers, I mean, was being
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a complete pain in the ass, was messing with the packers,
and they still gave without hesitation him one hundred and
fifty million dollars guaranteed. Russell Wilson was fucking with Pete
Carroll and John Schneider for years, for years, but it
was like, he's so good, what are we gonna do?
He's going to Pro Bowls. It is much easier to
have leverage when you're a twenty seven year old smoke
(25:13):
show than when you're fifty two with three kids and
two divorces. And I think when you look at Russell
Wilson and Aaron Rodgers, it's like the drama the ratio
of like sweet talent, sweet ability. Obviously Aaron in his
prime was much better than Russell, but even then Russell
was still pretty damn good. That it's all a whack,
(25:35):
and it's all a supply and demand chart, right like
the supplies of the justin Jeffersons relative to the demand.
He is so much better than like ninety eight percent
of everyone else in the league. It's not even funny.
So I'm using him as example. I'm not saying he is,
but if just because receivers when he DK is a
better example three or four years ago, it's like, yeah,
(25:56):
the DK, you know, it can be tough. Get some
get some penalties. Little got a big personality, sometimes doesn't
always listen. But it's like, where do you find a
six foot four, two hundred and thirty pound four to
two absolute thoroughbread. It's like, you know, you don't, so
you just deal with it. And then after a while
it's like, well, this production's kind of dip in. It's
(26:16):
like see a piece, You're gone. Happens all the time
at other positions, usually quarterbacks, you get a little more leeway.
And I'm sitting here and by the time you're listening
to this, maybe they have signed. If I would have
told you five years ago that Gino Smith would someone
would have traded a second day pick to acquire him
(26:36):
and then gonna be willing to give him an extension,
and Sam Darnold would be a free agent and several
days before a team that traded Gino Smith and who
desperately needs a quarterback will give him a decent chunk
of money, while Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers are just
free on the street. Here's the other thing. Pete Carroll,
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who spent the majority of his career around Russell Wilson,
who became, let's face it, a living legend because of Russell.
It validated not only am I a great college coach,
I can win big in the NFL because of this.
Guy could have signed Russell Wilson if he needed a
quarterback had cap space. Instead, he traded a pick on
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a team that needs a lot of talent to get
the guy that replaced Russell Wilson. I mean, think how
fucking nuts that is. I don't ever remember a guy
falling off a cliff harder than Russell Wilson. And honestly,
when you just look at the numbers over the last
three years, as his star has dimmed at just a
(27:39):
rapid rate, they're not that bad. Fifty eight touchdowns twenty
four picks, so basically a two to one ratio. But
he also has eight rushing touchdowns, so it's like he
has been relatively productive. But don't let the numbers fool you.
If you watched, he's a shell of himself. It got
called out this year was not good, and when he
played better competition, you had no shot Aaron Rodgers. It's
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just like the drama ratio the age. It's like, ah,
we're just out, we are just out, And it shows you.
I said this about Justin Fields. I don't think Justin
Fields can plays. He hasn't proven ever that he can
be a thrower from the pocket. He can run around,
and he's a great athlete, but he's a good guy.
And it was like the Jets are like, yeah, we're
just gonna cut Aaron Rodgers and we're gonna pay this
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guy who I don't even think and I'm speaking for them,
can even play. But you know what, he's just a
good guy. He'll get our franchise back on track. We
don't even necessarily care next year if we win five
or eight games. We just want some normality in the building.
We don't want to be a shit show anymore. And
they chose Justin Fields, who again can't really play, over
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Aaron Rodgers, who it's not like he was making fifty
million dollars a year. Remember he gave Woody thirty five
million dollar pay cut. So it just shows you and listen,
I can get a little crazy. We all can. We
all can have our bad days. But over the course
of time and in a business like football, where you
spend a lot of time with people, treating people right,
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and you know, Aaron's just I think viewed as a
little out there, Russell's just kind of viewed as a phony, right,
and just drama. Drama follows these people. Do you know what,
No successful person wants to deal with drama that's unnecessary,
especially drama from highly paid employees. Again, if you are
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Robert de Niro or Leonardo DiCaprio in their prime, the
studio is gonna handle you. But the moment you start
like being terrible and not being able to move the
needle for a movie, like, I'm not going to hire
you to fucking be on my movie set. And that's
what it feels like with these two guys. They became
so famous, they became so kind of out of touch,
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and in fairness, is more Russell than Aaron. Like Aaron's
forty one years old, and he had an incredible run.
And I hate even comparing these two because Aaron is
dramatically better than Russell, and Russell was a damn good player.
I mean, Aaron, you could make the argument the top
five or six quarterback of all time. But I think
both these guys should have job. Like if both these
guys were just completely normal and just acted fine, right,
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just for like mats like Matt Stafford is get along
with people. Just everyone likes them, never had really any issues.
They would both be on teams right now. But it's
the off field stuff, which again is impossible to really
It's easier to quantify Aaron, you know, ayahuasca and shit
than Russell's. But it's like, I'm not touching you because
the approval rating from all these gms. I mean, think
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how many teams a week ago needed a quarterback. We're
just a bridge quarterback that still might even draft a
team a guy. And I'm like, yeah, we'll just take
our time. We'll see what their market is. We'll see
these are guys that have made hundreds of millions of dollars.
There were always the max guys and now the head
coaches Ocson GM's like, yeah, we're good. I'll just I'll
just figure it out with cam Ward. You know, I
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almost I had my weeks messed up and I thought
the Players was next week. Maybe I was just discombobulated
from the wedding. And then I realized late Monday night
that the Players is this week, and I realized, well,
I got to do a little go low because I'm
going to gamble on it. I have a large wager
on the vig. I put together a little parlay from
(31:31):
my friends at DraftKings, and I was like, I want
to do a little golf today. And then I'm at
the gym today, soaking out my entire life from about
six day bender in Nashville. And I go up to
the cafeteria, nice little gym, and I get some food,
and I see Tiger Woods has torn his achilles, which
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would be crazy if, like Tiger Woods was an active
member on the PGA Tour, and he's clearly not, though
he dabbles in the TGL which he owns, but his
team's terrible. But it's just a pretty jarring moment. So
I do want to dive into that. I did watch
in my hotel room a little Saturday before he got married,
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and then a bunch Sunday the Arnold Palmer. So let's
dive into golf. Pretty fired up on some picks as well.
But I do want to start before we dive into
the players, before we talk about what happened last week.
Tiger Woods. I've been saying this forever. If you just
look at his body and the surgeries the guy has had,
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and obviously some are weight room and just wear and
tear of grinding on a golf range, which obviously the
golf swing is not a normal movement right with your back,
with your knees, the pressure points in the I think
there's a fair at one point in time before Tiger
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started getting hurt like inn Oh, when he messed up
his knee at Torrey Pines in eight there probably weren't
many humans over the course of like twenty five thirty
years who had taken more golf swings than Tiger Woods.
So his body is like if you ever met someone
and just because when I worked in radio, I was
going to a lot of Warrior games and going to
(33:18):
a lot of NFL games, you would meet these older
guys that played in the NFL in the NBA in
like the seventies or eighties, and most of them don't
look like Howie Long on television. Some of these NBA players,
it's like they have seven different limps. I'll never forget.
The Warriors were playing the Houston Rockets in a playoff series,
and you know, both coaches give a pregame and a
(33:40):
postgame press conference, and watching Kevin McHale get to his
pregame press conference, you felt like you needed to ask him,
like you need help. It was really really hard for
him to walk. And the technology those guys have, the
shoes they played on, obviously, the injuries in football, the
surfaces they played on. It's crazy they can even move.
And that's how Wood's body is right now and when
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you see and then obviously the car accident, which he's
lucky he didn't lose his leg, which is basically cemented
together with rods and this achilles. Like what really sucks
is I saw someone tweeting a couple of weeks ago
when they had that rich guy member pro member whatever
they call it at Seminole. Tom Brady's in it, Tiger
(34:24):
was in it, and people tweeting that, like Tiger was.
I think he played with Kegan Bradley or Jason Day
or some really good player was also in his group,
and Tiger's like blasting it by him or hitting him
by Like Tiger's pretty good player when he can play.
And I do believe that that car accident at the
Genesis really ended his career. But I think it's fair
(34:45):
to say that this is like the cherry on top,
like it's completely over. And I know he mentioned the
rehab process, but I do wonder when you have this
many different injuries and you have this many I mean,
why do so many guys get injured after they've been
injured Because your body is overcompensating. Remember it happened to
Klay Thompson when he tore his acl in the NBA
(35:07):
finals and then a year later he tore his achilles
because you start putting more pressure on the opposite ligaments.
You don't have to go to medical school, you just
have to follow sports to realize it happens all the time.
And the amount of injuries Tigers had, especially to his
lower body in his back, it just feels like it's
kind of time for him to just officially retire and
take on a different role, and he started to do
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that over the last couple of years, but it kind
of hit me today like there's a chance he might
never play in any of these tournaments again. And there
was no guarantee that he was even going to make
it to the Masters in a month, right, So it's
just kind of a brutal end and to me where
it really crystallized. And he's been gone for a while,
but he'll come back every once in a while, Like
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a couple of years ago, came back to the Masters
and it was a really big deal. A couple of
years ago he plays at the old Course and it's
a really big deal. And he has three or four
of those moments every year, him and him and Charlie
this year battling out with the Longers, which I think
is one of the cooler events, especially now that Charlie
plays in it. I would imagine this injury in March
probably pops out for the PNC come this fall. It
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sucks for Charlie, but the necessary just kind of demand
of getting these guys all back together because Tiger was
a one man rocket ship that could carry the sport
for twenty plus years and on individual weeks they could
do ratings that like the NBA would die for. Well,
those days are gone and now we have this split
(36:37):
up tour. And I on the plane ride to Nashville,
on the plane ride home, I downloaded like four or
five episodes a full Swing. I actually think it's pretty
good this season. It's just, you know, an easy watch.
It's entertaining. The Rory stuff is just the Scottish stuff.
It's just pretty good, and it just really makes you realize,
like you can have moments, right, like tennis and golf
(37:00):
where you just have these transcendent figures. Like when I
was growing up, my dad loved tennis because he loved
the macen Roe, Boris Becker, kind of the eighties of tennis,
and then I remember kind of just Pete Sampras and
Andre Agassi were just massive superstars and happened what has
happened over the years in racing, whether it be NASCAR
(37:21):
here to Formula One internationally, Like when you get these
superstar names, they can carry the sport, and golf had
that in a special special way with Tiger Woods, and
now they're much more dependent. Like one guy can't carry you,
Rory can't carry you, Bryson can't carry you. But the
group of four or five guys can and you can't
(37:43):
have them split up. So Tiger's done and he's been done.
But like this officially ends it, and it's just time
to figure it out, move forward and stop fucking around
on the players. So a couple of weeks, I guess
it would have been like a month to go. When
Ludwig won at Tory, I had a bunch of bets
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out and I hit one for and I've mentioned this
before for Tony Finow, and I immediately took the profits.
It was like fifteen hundred bucks, and I put one
thousand dollars on Ludwig to win this week and I
put the other five hundred dollars on him to win
the Masters. So that's when I first got into golf betting.
One of the first bets I think it was the
first outright bet I had ever hit, was justin Thomas
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to win the Players, like four or five years ago,
maybe it was three or four years ago, And it
was an incredible feeling because any of one that listens
to this knows if you bet football, like if you
take a big underdog that's like plus two hundred, right,
so you're basically getting one hundred dollars to win two hundred,
wherein golf you can get a blue chipper at twenty
to one, twenty five to one, sixteen to one. Right.
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Scottie Scheffler's kind of gone into rare territory where he's
like a four to one golfer that is not normal
in like DJ's prime and Rom's prime. She's like nine
ten to one in the next crew is twelve, fourteen,
eighteen and one thing I've learned it is very, very
difficult to build to bet winners. It's why I like betting.
I mean, one thing I've gotten much more into is
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betting the top tens in top twenties. But I think
on this individual week, like I'm just hoping Ludwig it'd
be pretty incredible. I'm fired up excited to watch him.
But Justin Thomas has won here before. And this is
a ball striker's course, like the shot making that it
takes in one it could be windy, but this is
a quirky course. This is not TBC Scottsdale where you
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can just kind of blast it around. I mean there
are problem areas hitting the trees, you can hit in
the water. There are just disastrous to be had. There
are also low numbers to be had because there are
reachable par fives. And when Justin Thomas, and you've got
to be able to kind of work the ball both ways,
especially hit a draw off your right handed player. So
when I look at Justin Thomas, who is like a
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throwback old school just can manipulate the golf ball and
he's great around the greens, not putting wise always, but
you know with a wedge in his hand like he
won here for a reason. And to me, you get
him in the top twenty, like you can get plus
odds on him. Keegan Bradley, who has played here well
multiple times. I mean was on pace at one point
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in time last week at Arnold Palmer, which is a
very tough place to play. Bahill shot like sixty. I mean,
he was on fire. And he's in this weird spot
of like he's the Ryder Cup captain. He said he
won't pick himself so he'd have to qualify top six
and even then I think he'd be a little uncomfortable.
But he just has this weird motivation. To me, I
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just watched it, but he looks like he's playing really well.
Same thing with Jason Day. So I'm taking Justin Thomas,
Keegan Bradley, and Jason Day two top twenty. I think
some of the top guys. I was watching Golf Channel
to day at the gym and Scott he's got about
four coaches out there. He's kind of shrugging his shoulders
and he had a driver in his hand. I saw
he was on the putting green. Xander missed like three months.
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You got Colin Morikawa, who in last week Russell Henley,
who has resurrected his career in his thirties and it's
been awesome to watch. He's just like this gritty Honestly,
Russell Henley feels like the type of guy that was
on the PGA Tour when I was a kid, pre Tiger,
Like when you turned on and it was the Faldo,
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Greg Norman era, Tom Watson was still around. You know
guys like that, you know young VJ. Singh, Ernie Els,
Phil Mickelson, some of those guys right before Tiger came
in the late nineties, there were a lot of guys
that kind of had vibes like Russell Henley. Russell Henley
does not feel like this modern day player who just
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swinging out of his ass trying to hit it four
hundred yards. He's just a good golfer and he's playing Morikawa.
He chips in on sixteen, which if he didn't chip
in it might have been way by, but he does it,
flips it, he ends up winning it, and then Morikawa
a lot like Rory last year at the US Open,
storms out and doesn't talk to the press. I don't
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know why we still call it the press Basically just
doesn't give an interview, and I saw Morikawa, like Rory
said on full swing, like I didn't want to talk
to anybody. I'm not in the mood. And more COWI
even used like I don't owe you guys anything, and
I was thinking, like, yeah, you don't owe these media
members with credential. That's not who you're talking to. Can
you imagine Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, you know, like
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when the Bills beat the Ravens. Can you imagine if
just after the post game, Lamar Jackson's like, I'm fucking
going home. I don't owe anyone anything, He'd be fined.
Can you imagine if after the Chiefs beat the Bills
in the AFC Championship game, Josh Allen was like, yeah,
I'm just I'm just not talking like no, that's not
the way it works. And one thing he got me thinking,
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I don't blame call him Marikawa. He lives in this
world that just thinks all this money is just showing up.
It's because of the consumer, not the PGA tour. Not
even the only reason that these networks gave you that
much money is they thought way more people were going
to watch. But the reason these leagues mandate this shit
in the NFL, in the NBA because it's good content
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and it keeps the business model rolling. And I think
these players just are in la la land, which how
much money is behind the reason that the PGA tour
can't sustain this without getting back with the live guys
is because their business model is all fucked up. The
ratings have been down the last couple of years despite
getting a gigantic television deal. And if I was in
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Colin more cow Isshoes, I probably would storm out too.
If I just blew it, it would have been you know. Besides,
he obviously he's won a couple of majors, even though
you know, COVID majors. But still, I mean, he's got
two majors. I probably storm out to. I'd be furious,
I'd be mad. How often do you think NFL guys
want to storm out, especially the quarterbacks. That's what we're
talking about. We're not talking about a guard, We're not
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talking about Mark Andrews face. The music that's part of
the business, and that's great for the business. And then
the next day it gets everybody, aka the consumer, the
most important person, talking about it, and you just don't
say anything. Now. Rory, I would say, is in a
different level right than Colin. But there has to be like,
there has to be mandates, and this is the type
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stuff that golf has to figure out. Not everyone can
just be out for themselves. That's not how all these
other sports, especially football, which is in a different stratosphere
than you would ever think about operating, they would not
allow it. And if you do skip, I'm gonna find
you fifty k because that's what happens in the NFL.
Cam Newton literally wouldn't jump on a fumble. He had
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to talk after the Super Bowl, so Colin at least
Rory was the US Open. This is the bail, like
Arnold Palmer that no one even likes, and the players
the next week not the end of the world. Get
up there, even if your answers suck. It is just
good to get because honestly, once Rory started talking on
full swing, it was fascinating to hear his mindset about
missing that putt in sixteen. He thought that he blew
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it because he gave Bryce a shot. Like that's the
type stuff people want to hear about. I just I
think sometimes when people become so rich like in the NFL,
Mahomes like his business is providing that, you know. In
the NBA, sometimes it's like guys can be out of
touch because the business is making so much money based
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on a contract that is all out of whack. And
it's like, I think these guys have a false sense
of like how lucky they are to be in this
position given that the audience is not there, and I
put golf right there. The NFL, like they can be
a little cocky. Josh Allen's like Patrick Mahomes, like, we
just got fifty million people to watch us fucking play football,
and they're speaking facts. No one everyone else is dealing
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with diminishing returns and this, honestly, it's like one of
the great legal scams going in America with Jay Monahan
and the deal that they cut with these networks because
they need inventory, but it's not based on how many
people are watching. And that's why we hear so often
about the ratings because it's kind of problem and I
think these players is like, you know, there's one guy
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that really moved the needle. Most of these other people
do not, So I think that really needs to be
kind of figured out. And yeah, I'm a sucker for
the Florida Swing. Love the players, and like I said,
I think anytime you can get ball strikers like j T.
You know j T plus odds but Keegan and Jason
Day like two to one to top twenty, it gives
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you so much, you know, margin for air. And honestly,
I wouldn't even feel that comfortable if I hadn't done
the Ludwig thing betting on an outright. You know, Shane
Lowry's been playing really well. He's a guy. But I
heard someone say that they thought this was more of
a drawers course than a fader's course for right hander.
You know, Tommy Fleetwood has never won, but he would
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fall into that category in theory. Rory would fall into
that category as well. But uh yeah. Other than that,
I feel for Tiger. I mean, you talk about a guy.
I just don't think in the history of life when
it comes to athletes, we have seen a more weathered
I mean we're talking about golf. The guy is put
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together like he played right tackle from nineteen seventy one
to nineteen eighty four. It's like Tiger's just played golf,
and I mean his back's fused, his ankles fuse, his
achilles ripped, his ACL's gone, his leg's broken, he got
a club to the tooth. He just had a lot
of shit happen. I remember, I got a buddy who
played on the tour for a long time. We bullshit
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about football a lot, and he texted me one time
after something happened to Tiger. He's like, I don't think
there's ever quite been a life like that. And I
think there are certain individuals. You know, Tigers involved highs
and money and a lot of pain, But like Michael Jackson,
when you just see stuff on Michael Jackson, you're just like,
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he led a life unlike any human being, you know,
good and the bad. It would ruin and fuck up everybody.
And some of this stuff with Tiger self inflicted. There's
no way around it. But you know, the guy's just
trying to hopefully get dialed enough for the Masters his achilles,
just so he could play. Probably, I guess he's never
missed the cut. But even if he just comes out
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there hits a couple of balls, even if he missed
the cut, no one would even care. And his achilles pops.
My god, I mean, oh man, I just that guy's
life been pretty crazy. I know me. I couldn't. I
wouldn't have the energy to get behind that bad boy. Yeah,
I would have tapped out of like twenty five years
old and they're like this, I've had enough. The volume
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