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Speaker 3 (00:26):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
A Tuesday, live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever
you may be, and however you may be listening or watching.
And I was watching at three forty five in the morning.
Fox Sports. You got it, baby, Jmac. That's why you
don't go out partying. You go to bed early so
you can watch Dodger Baseball MLB Accident three. It started
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at three. I missed the first forty minutes, but I
was locked in after that. J Matt, I see you
got a haircut for the start of the baseball season.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Start the baseball season?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Said, by the way to do Tony Holmer. You had
a couple of hits and a couple of runs. The
Dodgers are really good. Okay, let's just start with this.
The Dodgers beat the Cubs They're obviously not going to
go one sixty two to zero, but one fifty nine
and three is on the table. This is a really
good team. The minute the Cubs went to the bullpen.
Now it's not gonna work. No Mookie Bets, no Freddie Freeman,
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late scratch, no problem. But watching a Dodger game with
Otani reminds me of when Tiger started taking over golf,
and whenever there was a lull in the action, the
director would just say, all right, let's just put it
on Tiger, and even walking up the fairway, it was
okay to watch him for ninety seconds every fairway. You
were watching history. And that's what it feels like with Otani, unfazed,
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always smiling game in Tokyo. A little bit of nerves
nah infects his personality. So he's already got a World
series title, he's already got three MVPs in the bag,
and unlike the Angels, he's on a stacked team so
you can't pitch around him. And he's leading off, which
will force yes people in Los Angeles to show up
to Dodger games. Early Yabamoto, the starter, got the w
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for the Dodgers, but he's now an all time roster.
You can't pitch around him. And it's just there's a
magnetism transformational. And again they didn't have Molky or Freddie Freeman.
This is going to be a tough team to face
because if you go to your bullpen and it's not
buttoned up, you're talking about five potential batters that could
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be Hall of famers and Otani at bats. And this
is what's great for baseball is that. And we've said this.
You know, I grew up at a different time when
there were the faces of baseball. It could be Johnny Bench,
you know, for a time, you know, it could be
Mark Fidrich, it could be a quirky personality. Baseball's been
dying for a face of the sport. Now, Aaron Judge
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is a big deal, but baseball's more regional than national.
So you may just be like the face of the league,
Hudson river East if you're a judge. But I do
feel like we talk about the NBA is always saying, well,
you need a face of the league that can't be
an international player. The minute O Tawny parked his car
at Dodger Stadium, he was the face of Major League Baseball, Pacific,
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rim Los Angeles and beyond. Never forget last year Dodgers
go to Yankee Stadium, all those blue hats. They lead
Major League Baseball in road attendance, and being the face
of a sport is something you cannot campaign for, right
It's a little bit like a nickname. You can't give
it to yourself. It's got to come naturally. And I'm thinking,
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oh boy, he's gonna be nervous in this series. This
is gonna be a lot for him. It wasn't infectious, unfazed,
always smiling, couple hits, a couple runs. Dodgers want to know,
got good starting pitching, and here's the skipper after.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
I don't think I've ever seen Showhay nervous. You know,
one thing I did notice is how emotional he got
during the Japanese national anthem. That was really something that
was very telling, how emotional he was. I thought it
was a good baseball game. I thought offensively, we control
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the strike zone, took our watch walks, got some timely hits,
played good defense.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Uh yeah, but it really is.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
We've talked about this a lot about does the NBA
have a face of the league.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And I felt forever.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
When I watched Michael Jordan, Jordan was good looking, he
was the best dressed. There were the ear rings, there
was the smile, he had a gate. The way he walked,
Michael walked cool, like he didn't have to ask for it.
Like Michael walked into the room. He was the alpha.
And it didn't matter if Barkley, Magic and Bird were
in the room. Michael was the alpha around all these
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great Dodger players. I mean, it's just, oh Tani is different.
I mean it, language barriers irrelevant, doesn't matter at all.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
The look, the size, it's so.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Much bigger and per sitting and even around Major League
Baseball players, you can see it. It's totally infectious. Dodgers
want to know, gonna be a lot of doubles for
this team. They play again tomorrow and they will be
on FS one.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Actually, so.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
What about to say about Lebron is not necessarily a criticism.
It's actually part of sort of his legacy. To me,
Lebron's very calculated with everything his social media posts. So Lebron,
remember they faced Boston and they played a good game
and for the first half, then then the second half
they kind of struggled and Lebron had like a growing tweak,
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and Lebron's like, see you guys, I'm gonna head back
to La I'll see you guys in three weeks.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Very calculated.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So last night I watched the Warriors against the Nuggets,
and the Nuggets didn't have Yoki, and the Nuggets didn't
have Jamal Murray, and the Nuggets completely controlled the game.
I mean they led the whole game at one point,
and there was no Jokic and no Jamal Murray. And
my take watching is Steph Curry looks really tired. And
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this is where the Lakers have an advantage over the Warriors.
So if Lebron's out, Luca and Austin Reeves are both
play initiators, they can both drop thirty points. You would
not be shocked Austin's on a heater right now. If
Steph takes a night off, I mean, the oxygen offensively
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for the Warriors leaves the room. I love Draymond, I
love Jimmy Butler. They're not offensive dynamic machines.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That's not what they are.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
What Jimmy Butler adds is all these intangibles and toughness
in physicality and urgency and Draymond is a catalyst, and
he's a rebounder and a defender. But if Steph's not
on the floor, and he was last night, you take
him off the floor. I said this before the Jimmy
Butler moved. The Warriors were boring without Steph on the floor.
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They've got good players, but kaminga by himself, Jimmy by himself.
I mean, you watch Jimmy Butler in Miami just didn't matter.
So Lebron is a forty year old and he understands
the value of a nap. So he gets a groin tweak,
walks off the floor, and he heads to LA.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
He gets treatment every day, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
He gets rest, He watches a sudden play high school basketball,
He gets a mental reset, a physical reboot. That has
always been the value of Lebron. The way Lebron looks
at basketball is, how can the player I'm gonna play
with Chris Bosh could be j R. Smith, Kyrie Irving,
it could be a D Luca Austin Reeves. How do
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they make the game a little easier for me? So
as I age, I have these brief six minute moments
where I can take over the game and that's calculated,
and that's okay because he still remains one of the
top six or seven players in the league. On any
night he's the second or third best player. Some nights
he's the best. Certainly some halves in quarters he is.
But the Warriors are different when Steph sit and it's
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if you start looking at the Warrior schedule now, they're
going on a six game road trip and they are
this is a tired team. And Steve Kerr talked about
it after the lost to Denver.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
He's just been caring us for for a month. He's
been amazing. He's tired. So we got to get him.
We've got to get him some rest. I just you
can see it.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
He doesn't have.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
His his energy right now, but he's exhausted right now.
So we've got to We've got to absolutely consider giving
him a night and getting him rejuvenated for the sake
of him and are you know, the remainder of our games.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
It's not that Lebron isn't valuable, but this roster now,
between the size of a Roue and a Jackson Hayes
and the offensive initiation of Austin Reeves, yes he can
do it and Luca Lebron can sit out. Now the
team's not as good. Obviously they don't community Kate as well.
When Lebron is out. They're not as smart when Lebron's out.
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He's one of the smartest, greatest communicators along with Magic
Johnson I've ever seen play basketball. But they can score
points without Lebron. They can get into the one twenties
Golden State. Look at that six game schedule, Roady coming up.
I don't know where their offense is. It's not And
by the way, I like Kaminga, but you can't. It's inconsistent.
Love Butler, but he's not a huge scorer, a great shooter.
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It's not easy for him. Offense is work for Jimmy Butler.
So they got a challenge on their hands because Steph
looked tired. No Yokich, no Jamal Murray, and they just
had no fight and no energy. As I'm sitting there
watching and thinking, Okay, they'll go on a spurt, they
got no spurt in them.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
They didn't have it.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So j mac Adam Wainwright stops by Kyle Van Nuyan Studio.
Nick Wright tomorrow, I hope you get up early tomorrow
with the kids, have breakfast, watch little MLB action.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
I got to get up early Thursday and Friday for
the tournament, so it's gonna be tough for me to
pull a three am wake up to watch baseball.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I did three forty the first couple innings.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I forced at fourth inning at that point because now
they're speeding.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Against no baseball flies by Yeah, yeah, yeah, so but
the first thirty minutes a bit blurry. I didn't watch
the first inning and a half was a little you know,
was that.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
After like three pints last night celebrating Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's not how I roll. Oh really, not with ensuing
MLB action. I'm not out there just partying.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Like dropping big vocabulary words here early. Hey. By the way, so, uh,
your Warriors interesting?
Speaker 8 (10:29):
They beat up on a bunch of tomato cans and
you were gassing them up like they're going to the
finals and now they face a yokichless Nuggets and lose.
You should have been watching Austin Reeve's cook last night.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Oh my gosh, how good was Austin reed was good?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
He was good.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
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Speaker 1 (10:54):
Welcome back Adam Wayinwright, former Major League baseball great. We'll
be joining us Nick right top of next hour. Kyle
van Neyt stops by. So mel Kiper dropped his draft
and like j Mack, he's got cam Ward going to
Tennessee number one and the Giants picking Shaduer Sanders at
number three. This idea that Shaduur Sanders is going to
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plummet in the draft makes no sense to me. The
Giants are desperate for a quarterback right now. They're crossing
their fingers hoping. Aaron Rodgers says yes, and Shaduur Sanders
is the consensus number two quarterback in this draft. It's
not like Daniel Jones when they Giants picked him six,
most people didn't think he was a first round quarterback.
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Chadure's the second most talented quarterback in this draft, and
people get paralyzed by Shaduur Sanders being overrated. I think
you're under visioned if you don't see what New York's
going to try to do. Give you an example when
Steve Balmer bought the Clippers for two billion. People screamed
it was overpaid, overpai, can't believe it overpaid. It's now
worth five He bought it cash, he said, I'm never
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going to sell it, So what's it matter. He had
forty billion in the bank.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
He wanted it. He wanted the asset.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
If he'd gone down to one point four billions, somebody
else would have it. He wanted it. In life, go
get what you want. The Giants need a quarterback. They
have a good left tackle, a great weapon, an offensive coach.
They need a running back in a tight end. It's
a great draft for both. It's a great draft for both,
especially running back. So this idea of sitting around and
waiting for Aaron Rodgers to give you an answer or
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just go get it, go buy it. And it reminds
me that Steve bolberd thing people just could not believe
what he paid. In My take is, are you better
off fighting over two hundred and fifty million dollars and
not getting it if you want an NBA team? About
once every couple of decades, a good piece of real
estate becomes available in the NBA. LA's good real estate.
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Now they've got an arena. Steve's project and purchase. You
didn't see the vision. He saw the vision. If Shader said,
and you're an offensive coach for the New York Giants
and you're thinking, God, we can get a running back
in this draft, a tight end the left tackle of neighbors.
This is a real offense. And if he hits, which
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I think he could, you're not going to care where
he's drafted. And if he doesn't, it's New York. No
city has whiffed on quarterbacks more in the last decade
than New York. He'll just become another one on the
conveyor belt of Missus. But this idea that, oh, is
it overrated?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Over who is?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I mean Andrew Luckgott criticized. Who's not overdrafted in the
NFL at quarterback? I mean Joe Burrow consensus. I mean,
now it looks like Trevor Lawrence was overdrafted.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Look, I mean Jalen Hurts was underdrafted. But by and large,
I mean when Lamar came out, people thought that was overdrafted.
Could he be a wide receiver? He can't worry about that.
What's your need? Who's the best person at that position.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
On the board? Go get him. Jmack with the news. No, no, no,
turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
All right, Colin, We're starting with the Lakers who destroyed
the San Antonio Spurs. Now, the Spurs did not have Wemby,
they did not have Daron Fox. The Lakers won by fourteen.
Luca nearly had a triple double, didn't shoot a great
five for twenty from the field, but who cares?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
They won.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
Lakers also covered the first quarter again. I think that's
nineteen to three in the last twenty two.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Something absurd.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
We got.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Our staff is just coming up with some great NBA stats.
So this season, three players are averaging twenty five, eight
and eight. One of them is Nicola Jokic, one of
them is Lebron James. Do you want to guess who
the other one is?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Ah, we put it on the street. Luca, Luca sends
joining the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You know, I for years you thought I was anti
Austin Reeves, and I said, no, he's not slotted correctly.
I said, if he's your third or fourth best player,
then you can get to a conference final. Austin Reeves
is now really showing his value, which is because I
worried when they got Luca and Lebron. It's like, well,
Austin's a play initiator, where's the ball go? But Lebron,
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as he is prone to do very calculated growing tweak,
Daddy's going home.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Here comes a tough schedule.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, now you're really seeing Austin Reeves value because I
still contend Luca's kind of playing himself into shape. Lucas
jumpshot is off, he didn't quite have the legs. This
is where Austin Reeves is really showing his value as
a guy. When Lebron's off that can get thirty points,
create offense. He's also, like Luca Lebron great on the lobs.
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Austin Reeves has really shown his value.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Interesting coming around on Oldar fifteen.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I will add that. So I'm on a text team.
I'm on many text things.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
A couple of basketball guys and one guy asked last night,
Austin Reeves are Jamal Murray and I was like, listen,
I think it's Murray, but I'm just telling you Colin.
Austin Reeves has been amazing this season. Gets to the line,
gets to the line, he could take anybody off to dribble.
His handle is filthy. I mean he's a great shooter.
Colin when lebron One is healthy, Lucas fully with the Lakers.
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You know, he's still getting to know his teen eighth
their tendencies and Austin Reaves is your three.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
How many teams in the league have three different guys
that can initiate contact, get to the line, and start
the offense, like like Dallas. Now when you got rid
of Luka, they got one. Now Dallas has half huh, I.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Mean it's okay, see half one. Lakers have three.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
You know, it's it is a clear advantage.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
They thought Westbrook was gonna beat this a few years
ago and it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Out that way.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Austin Reeves, I'm just telling this Lakers team.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Conference finals is the minimal. I think they can win
the championship. It's gonna be tough to take down Boston,
but Coston Conference finals are bust for the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
They look that good right now? All right, let's move on.
This is interesting.
Speaker 8 (16:41):
College football programs across the country are canceling their spring games.
Some of them are using this whole like, hey, why
would I put my players on tape? They're just gonna
get poached in the portal. Well, Dion Sanders has a
new idea. Take a listen what he thinks spring football
should look like.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Actually, I like to play against another team in the spring.
That's what I'm trying to do right now, and I
would like to sound it like the pros. I would
like to practice against someone for a few days, then
you have the spring game, and I think the public
will be satisfied with that tremendously. I think it's a
tremendous idea. Yet I've told those personnel who should understand
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that's a tremendous idea.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
He's totally right on this.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
For years, college football fans were very proud, and they
told you they didn't watch the NFL. Yeah, you do
college football fans too. A lot of NFL fans don't
watch college The numbers tell you that. So college becoming
more pro is a really good thing. General managers not this.
There's a lot of hokey stuff in college football that
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hopefully they're getting out of bad schedules, lobsited like in
state rivalries that nobody cares about. This is another step
toward making we're paying the players. Now it looks like
the NFL. The top programs make it more NFL. I
think it only powers college football and pro football.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I'm gonna get nerdy with you.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
When I moved across the country to come here to Fox,
we did the pros and cons list. I would like
to hear your pros and cons list for this spring
idea that Dion has where you're traveling and the Syracuse
coach Fran Brown, basically came out and said, Hey, Syracuse,
we will travel to play Colorado.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
People do it.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
So you're pulling the student athletes out of school for
a week, practicing for a few days, and then playing
a spring game. Give me your pros and cons to this,
because I think we're missing some cons here.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Okay, so the pros are.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Dion's point is do you really get better just playing
yourself in practice?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
That's why pros do this.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Also, why put too much on tape for people to
see my players and poach them? The cons is why
couldn't Colorado play Colorado State? You get in a bus
and missa daya class, like it just doesn't mean that
my play baseball players in college don't even go to class.
They all major in psychology. They're on the road the
entire year. I mean, when you look at the convergence
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of the Pac twelve students in volleyball now playing Big
ten schools, they're missing more school than ever.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So what in the spring you miss two day?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
All these college kids football, you miss the least school
because you fly out on Friday, and in college you
can do your schedule. My son doesn't, he doesn't have
classes on Friday. So the idea that, oh, they're missing
so much because most college students, a lot of them,
especially like go home and see their parents or go
to their home town.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
They don't schedule Friday classes.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So I don't worry about I worry about baseball players
in college never even going to class, doing everything over zoom.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
So a couple of cons.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
One of the big things that happens in the NFL
with these scrimmages is fights. That's what we get. We
get a lot of them in August. You see the
players are amped up, they're going after one another. And
I gotta be honest, college football, Dion's trying.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
To build a brand here.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Yeah, brand awareness for Collegelorado football ends as soon as
the season ends, so it's really only like four months
He's trying to give us spring interest in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Football, which I get, But what about the with the
potential for an injury?
Speaker 8 (20:10):
There's targeting in college football all the time. Or your
quarterback stinks up the joint and now the fans are
I rate online for for months our quarterbacks stinks.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
We need to we need a new quarterback.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Like I just think the downside here is probably too
much for a lot of these programs.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Would you agree here?
Speaker 5 (20:26):
No?
Speaker 9 (20:27):
No you?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Phil? Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
College guys getting into a fight with coaches watching your chaperones.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So okay, I mean I I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
College guys are at senior Froggy getting into fights on
Saturday across.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Campuses all spring break.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
All right.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
The final story is the Chicago Bears have had a
busy free agency.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
You love their offensive line pickups.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
They got a new weapon for Caleb Williams. His name
Ola Mede Zakitas.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
He used to be for the Falcons, He's played other
other other teams.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Here's what he says about Klebily.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
He has all the talent that you need to be
a top tier quarterback in the league. So a lot
of it is just gonna be the mental aspect of it,
and you know, kind of just slowing the game down.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
M Yeah, they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I don't think they're gonna be great in September with
a new coach and a new offensive line, schedule, could be.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
They won't be as good.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
They won't be as good as like uh Detroit and
Green Bay in September. The question for them is gonna
offensive line get humming by mid to late October. The
Bears will be a good football team next year. Don't
be shocked if September is a little pumpy with three
new offensive starters all in the same unit.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
So sixty eight sacks taken by Caleb last year, and
just remember they're not all on the offensive line. A
lot of that is him padding the football, dropping back
and panicking. He's I don't know how you step that
out of him. Hey man, you got to release the football.
You gotta just unloaded quickly.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, they they have a They have a super clever
offensive coach who is replacing a non clever defensive coach.
So it's going to be a totally different playbook and
a totally different culture.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
The scheme is just so different.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Guys are going to be Remember Detroit, you watch Detroit
Lions games, dudes are open tight ends, running backs, receivers
all the time.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
You don't see that in Chicago. You didn't see it
as much last year.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Well, Jim Harbaugh was talking this, I think he was
this weekend, but I saw the quote and he said,
there's only one unit in football that helps everybody, and
everybody else depends on and yet that unit doesn't need
help of anybody else. They don't benefit from anybody else,
And it's offensive line. The offensive line makes the quarterback.
The run game, the wide receivers have more time to
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break off their routes the defense. It helps them because
the good offensive line Detroit, Philly keeps the defense off
the field and keeps you rested. But nobody else really
necessarily helps the offensive line. So the Bears figured it
out finally, is if the ad line's good, we're good.
The defense is on the field less Caleb can throw
twenty two times, not thirty four. The receivers have another
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half second in the route tree. So it's just it's
not hard to figure out. It is hard in the
NFL to have a top five or six O line
and not make the playoffs. It's hard because it gives
your defense rest. Everybody looks a little better off. Your
running backs are b running backs. They kind of look
a minus B plus when the O line's good. So
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the Bears at least figured out what unit to attack.
Jmckle the news.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I probably made a big mistake yesterday. I picked Arizona
to get, you know, into the final four. Yeah, probably
should have picked Duke. Duke and Cooper Flag are consensus
title favorites. They have three NBA players. They'll probably win it,
you know, but you gotta have some fun in life.
So I would say this though, the NBA should be
crossing their fingers that Duke and Cooper Flag win the title.
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He's a huge name, and Duke is the biggest Brandon
college basketball. He could be Zion william Send without all
the red flags. I think it's very possible. The NBA
and they, I don't know if they know this needs
college football. So the NFL's always understood the value of
the free marketing throughout the saturdays in the fall that
college football provides. These kids come into the NFL, They're
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microwave them they are ready to be brands and sell jerseys.
It could be overrated players, Tim Tebow, you know, or
it can be underrated players.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
People know who they are. So nobody cares about the
G League.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Honestly, Parents and players and coaches trying to get to
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Stop talking about the G League.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
It's about college basketball, which by the way, on average
has much better coaching than the G League. So college
football is free advertising. It feels like the NBA for
the last decade has been fighting college basketball. So I mean,
when's the last domestic player who came into the league
from college with great promise and delivered. Anthony Davis, but
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he was sort of reluctant, you know, he went to
a smaller market. I think Cooper Flag has a chance
to end up in Chicago and give us sort of
a magic Johnson Larry birdfeel like, Wow, this guy you
fall in love with in March always coming to the
NBA to a big market, a Celtics, a Chicago, a
Los Angeles. So the WNBA got this past year, they
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got their Cooper Flag, Caitlin Clark and the league. The
WNBA wasn't prepared for it. I mean, they're still I'm
not sure if they're prepared for Caitlin Clark. They butchered it,
didn't put her on the Olympic team, gave her the
hardest schedule in the league.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
But Caitlin Clark delivered. The league wasn't. They just couldn't
handle it.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Hopefully, the NBA is crossing its fingers because this is
what the league needs. I mean, look at the impact
Jimmy Butler and Luca had going to big brands. Can
you The Bulls have led the NBA in attendance, and
I'm not it could be like fifteen in the last
eighteen years, and half of those they've been awful, unwatchable.
The MJA years obviously great. The d Rose years were
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a lot of on They've been bad. It doesn't matter.
They sell out their games. So if a Chicago could
get a Cooper Flag from Duke, then you'd have Boston,
New York, San Francisco, LA. And when everybody gets healthy
in Dallas, Dallas plush Chicago having really good higher end
NBA teams. So you guys can all root for Drake
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and Grand Canyon. You see San Diego, I am rooting
for Duke and Cooper Flag. They have three potential lottery
picks for Duke, but flags the kid. He's got a
little Jason Tatum. He's kind of good at everything. Is
he great at any one thing? He's gonna be a
very good score runs the floor, can score down low, long, physical,
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can shoot. I mean, he can really do anything. No
red flags. I mean he is a walk into the
league eighteen and a half points a game guy. If
you give him a team in which he can take
some shots and get the.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Ball in his hands. So I'm rooting for him.
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Speaker 1 (28:16):
I mean, you're sitting around on the East Coast getting
your kids ready for school.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
What is better than watching baseball? I w a West
Coast guy. I got a at three forty five in
the morning. That was great.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I turned it on television, made a coffee though, you know,
even the cat was next to me and join it.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
So I thought it was great.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I know it's expensive in Major League Baseball, won't do
It's what's interesting about the Dodgers because Kershaw is still recovering,
Dustin May will eventually be available to be their fifth starter.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
They have so much pitching.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Otani has not pitched in over five hundred days, so
I guess he's gonna pitch. But they've got Blake snell Y,
I'm a moto. They got twenty one year old Phenom Suzaki.
They have so much pitching depth. Today they didn't have Morgan,
they didn't have Freddy Freeman, and they didn't have Mookie
Betts today and it didn't matter. So Atani apparently is
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going to pitch in May. They are absolutely stacked. There
is just not a Major League Baseball team you if
you're a baseball fan forever. There have been teams that
have been great. But even if you go back to
the great Yankee teams, they had a lot of role
players like Scott Brocious. They weren't all Jeter and Posada
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and Bernie Williams. Those were the young phenoms and Mariano Riverae,
but there were a lot of role players for the Yankees.
Dodgers don't have a ton of role players. They've got aces.
I mean, glass Now was Tampa's best pitcher, got hurt
last year, so they had to use bullpen sessions against
the Mets, the Podreys, and the Yankees in the World
Series and still won. So, by the way, you know,
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baseball has always been better when there's a villain. I mean,
the Yankees were the Evil Empire for years. They didn't
win in every year, but they would dominate the off season,
which the Dodgers have done. But since the Dodgers got
these new owners, the Royals have won a World Series.
The Rangers have won a World Series, so they've only
got two and one of them was in the COVID
shortened year. So but what they're doing, and by the way,
(30:17):
the Yankees make over one hundred million more dollars a
year in annual revenue, so the Yankees have the money.
The Dodgers do, in fact more on an annual basis.
But the Dodgers are all in. They're doing these kind
of delayed payment contracts, which are legal. When Houston was
the villain of baseball, they were the villain because they cheated,
which was not considered very redeemable. The Yankees were just
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sort of like New York obnoxious, dominating, always winning late
games in Yankee Stadium. The Dodgers are much more similar
to the Yankees. They dominate offseason and they're simply more committed.
I mean George Steinbrenner, you know, he bought that franchise,
I think it was from like a CBS or something
for ten million dollars and then poured money into the Yankees.
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That's what the Dodgers are doing. They're not worrying about
making major profits year to year. They're worrying about dominating
and creating a brand, and they're doing it. So also,
is Adam ready to go?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
All right?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
He's ready eighteen years in the bigs.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
He is now joining US Live Adam Wainwright, Fox Sports
Baseball Analyst. Listen, it's early, but I got up at
three forty five in the morning to watch this and
I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
About you this morning driving in. So they have so
much depth with pitching.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
They don't even need Kershaw or Dustin Maynow, oh Tani
hasn't pitched it over five hundred and seventy innings. You're
a guy that liked to work into the sixth. You
like to work into the seventh A lot of all
time greats like you did that. When you have so
much pitching depths, do you go to a six man
rotation or does that get into your head? Could you
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have too much depth of pitching if you're the Dodgers.
Speaker 10 (31:59):
First of all, you can never have too much depth.
A second, I should say, first of all, thanks for
having me on. Good to see colin second ball. You
should you can never have too much depth, not ever, ever, ever.
I mean, we had this conversation about the Phillies last year.
Did they have too much depth? What did they possibly need?
And then you know they had a lot of injuries
coming down the stretch. You never have enough of it,
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and you never have enough starting pitchers. As soon as
you think you got enough starting pitching, someone gets hurt
and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
You're at that five number.
Speaker 10 (32:28):
You're like, man, if one more person gets banged up,
which by the way, is almost certain to happen, unfortunately,
then you're in trouble. So no, you can never have enough. Now,
those guys look good. I watched the game back this morning.
I was doing a little bit of gardening that's retired
life for you.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
But you know what a cool opening day in Japan.
Speaker 10 (32:52):
Two Japanese starters started off and one of my favorite guys, Imanaga.
I know he's not the guy who one's talking about
right now, but Immanaga is the guy that I'm just
fascinated by because he just doesn't They don't barrow him up.
Nobody can barrow this guy up. He hardly gives up
any hits. But no, you can't have enough pitching the
Dodgers last year, look the Dodgers in the postseason. The
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big question was did they have enough pitching. Luckily their
bullpen was outstanding, So no, you can't have enough.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I remember years and years ago people talked about Japanese
baseball was like TRIPAA baseball.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
But every time the Dodgers bringing a guy over, he's
great immediately.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
And is that the quality is improved or is it
just the Dodgers are getting these transformational players. But it
does feel like they come into the sport, they dominate,
they're great in the clubhouse, they're quality guys, they're total professionals.
I don't know, it just feels like maybe it's the
Dodger scouting and research and development.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
What's your thought on.
Speaker 10 (33:49):
That, Well, they clearly have a great scouting research development department.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
Those guys are.
Speaker 10 (33:54):
Always I mean, and think about where they draft too.
They never draft at the top of the draft. They
never get the top ten picks. They're always in the
bottom five picks of the draft, and yet they find
the gyms every single time.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
So somebody out there is doing a great job.
Speaker 10 (34:08):
But I would say this about the Japanese brand of baseball,
which is very good.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
They have incredible arms.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
The big question for me.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
Is always can these guys hit In the big leagues.
It's never can they pitch? We saw that at the
WBC when we played against them in the final game
and watched them all WBC, they just dropped in I
think they started.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
They pitched nine different pitchers.
Speaker 10 (34:31):
Against US Team USA, and all of them are throwing
ninety five plus.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
With a nasty split almost except for a couple of them.
And they throw those invisiballs like Imanaga.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
So their arms incredible, very very good, mechanically sound pitchers.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
They work really hard.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
They have incredible arms.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
The question for me is never can they pitch? It's
always can they hit? But their pitchers are amazing.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
You know, Yankees are interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
So they lose Soda, John Carlos Stanton, both elbows are good.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Trouble.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Now you've got Garrett Coles out, So that's I mean,
that's a lot to digest, do you think. I mean,
I thought when they played the Dodgers, the two games
where it felt like they were the Dodgers even the
equal was when Garrett Cole pitched.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
And you're like, okay, we got a series here.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Is it like when you but you would look at
all these the dynamic players they're losing. It feels like
a different Yankee team. It just doesn't feel the same.
Can it be the same?
Speaker 9 (35:34):
Well?
Speaker 10 (35:35):
I mean, I would like in the the the Yankees
this year to the Braves last year when they lost
Strider and they lost a Kunya.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
You know, it's not easy to lose two MVP.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
Caliber players and still continue on, and the Braves still
had a pretty pretty good run about it. When you
lose Garrett Cole, that is a big hit to a
starting rotation that was kind of maybe a little thin
in starting pitching as it was. But he's one of
the best pitchers in all baseball, you know, proven it
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year in and year out, one of the biggest arms,
and a couple of years ago I was thinking, oh, man,
I hope he's not bad hurt, but if he is,
he could go ahead and have that surgery.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
And this is not something I recommend to young players,
but in the prime.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
Of your career, it's tough to go through, like you know,
especially as hard as he throws the ball, it's really
tough to go through one hundred.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
And sixty two game season, thirty two thirty three, thirty
four start.
Speaker 10 (36:35):
Season and the postseason with a sixty ligament in your
elbow can be really, really, really tough. You know, you're
just kind of on borrow time. I'm glad he's getting
it fixed. I'm glad he got it fixed. I'm glad
he's going to be back healthy next year. We're gonna
miss him this year in Major League Baseball. The Yankees
will certainly miss him. And I can speak to Stanton too, man,
because you know what, about an hour and a half ago,
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I got a shot for what they called tennis elbow
in this album, my left elbow from playing the guitar
too much and anybody.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
And let me tell you something, I'm I'm a I'm
a volunteer assistant.
Speaker 10 (37:09):
Coach on four teams right now, and hitting fungos with
that elbow like that it is.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
It sucks, man.
Speaker 11 (37:17):
So uh.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
Giancarlo, I feel you, buddy. I know you got it
in both. But you're a big, strong fellow. You're gonna
He's gonna be fine. He's gonna look but those things don't.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Man. Look, I got a shot in this three months
ago too. Like it comes back. You can't get it
to go away.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Uh so, I guess I'm gonna have to learn how
to play the harmonica or something. But the Yankees, you
know what, the Yankees are still gonna be the Yankees.
Speaker 10 (37:40):
They're gonna miss their number one pitcher, Garrick Cole is
a top five pitcher in the Major League when he's healthy.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
There's no question about it. He just hadn't been healthy
for a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
They're gonna miss Stanton's power in the middle of the order.
Speaker 10 (37:50):
I'm looking forward to seeing who steps up though, in
the middle of that order. Because they also lost Soda.
That's another big loss.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, there's no question about that.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
It's but I will I will say Aaron Judge like
Otawny can go on a heater and he can carry
that lineup.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
There's no question about that. Adam Wayne Right.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
Oh, I took a lot of heat from Yankee fans,
which was uh and I don't say this lightly and
I don't say this very often.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
The Yankee fans were correct.
Speaker 10 (38:15):
I was asked to name the top five players in
baseball and I didn't put Judge in there because they
asked me to be kind of.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
Argumentative is a word.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Maybe so?
Speaker 7 (38:25):
But you know, Aaron is so great.
Speaker 10 (38:27):
He's so great, he's so talented, and he can carry
a lineup by himself.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Adam Wayne Wright. Great seeing you. We called him late
this morning. I appreciate it. Get back out to the garden, man,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Guys.
Speaker 10 (38:40):
Hey, I'm looking forward to Sandy alkin tear coming back.
That's what I'm looking forward to. Sandy and Akunya. Those
are my two guys I want to watch that are
coming off injury.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
There's gonna be difference makers.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Thanks Adam, all right, Thanks guys. All right. Mets also
have one Soto.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
That's a huge story, but the Yankees have major injuries
going into the season. Dodgers picked up their first win
on the scene, and they play again tomorrow and FS
one Nick right top of Next Hour. By the way,
Nick's not gonna like it, So I do a heard hierarchy.
Just okay, all the coaching's done, all the free agency's done.
One of the top ten right now teams rosters in
the NFL. I think Kansas City's got a problem, and
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I think one of the problems is in division with
the Chargers and Nagy Harris as Joe Walt comes back
now for a second year as an offensive tackle. The
second year with that culture building in Los Angeles. If
you ever look at Jim Harball, that's that second year
when they really start to pop, and the third year
they get better and better and better. So what he
did first year, the second year, I think you're gonna
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see an elevation of three or four more wins potentially.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
By the way, I saw this headline, Well, I'm gonna
say this for next Hour.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Here's a headline, Jmack. Look at this headline.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Can you imagine this headline with the Rams? The Steelers
are stuck in quarterback limbo? If Aaron Rodgers rejects them,
what's next it's mid March.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I mean it's crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
It's almost like Mike Tomlin views quarterback as just another player.
He's like a defensive end who you know, take snaps?
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Can you?
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I mean, that's that is the difference in this league
between offensive coaches and defensive coaches. I said this about
Ron Rivera two years ago when he was.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Sam Howell's good enough, time out, good enough to what?
He's not good enough to keep your job?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (40:30):
The idea that the Steelers are like, hey, we could
get Aaron Rodgers and if we don't, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, I mean you can draft. You know, you can
go and look at a draft and get a Jackson Darby.
Speaker 8 (40:45):
It's interesting you say that because I saw the mock
draft you posted on.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
The screen earlier and they had Jackson Dart going in
the top ten.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah, what on earth is that?
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Well?
Speaker 8 (40:52):
I mean, if that's if that's how people view Jackson Dart,
the Steelers should just drat it and wherever they're drafted well.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Jalen Milrose also mid to late first round. A lot
of people. He may have dropped a second.
Speaker 10 (41:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Role over Dart. But that's just me.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yes, so would I. I watched Jackson Dart play six
seven times. I never thought he was a first round quarterback.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
I mean, he's Lane Kiffin system.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
That's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Good special, No,