March 18, 2025 • 32 mins
2-time Super Bowl champion Kyle Van Noy joins the show in studio to talk about the various free agent signings around the league and playing with Lamar Jackson
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
He has been in the NFL five different teams, and
yet he's productive with all of them. A Kyle van
Noy eleven years, a two time Super Bowl champ, both
of the Patriots. So this is interesting. Let's start with this.
Do you watch Kyle? Do you watch free agency?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I mean, the first thing I'm going to say is yes,
because we saw Jamar Chase and T Higgins what they
just got right. They're in our division. We have to
watch that. I mean, that's amazing that they got those
deals done up there, and at the amount that they did.
They went all in on offense, so that it was
pretty razy for a team to do it. But I'm
happy for him. I got to spend some time with
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Jamar Chase at the Pro Bowl and Joe Burrow, two
very extraordinary young men in this game that are just
going to grow even more. Just two really good dudes
at what they do with their craft, and so I'm
happy for him to get their money, but not happy
when we have to play on twice a year.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, it's interesting because I talked to you a year ago.
I think it was before you signed with the Ravens.
You ended up twelve and a half sacks, major first
Pro Bowl, let's go. So it's interesting. That's not the
way it usually works. We get older. Yeah, yet you
So I'm going to say some of this obviously a
lot to you, but some of it had to be fit.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, was it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I think a little bit is about fit, but I
also more think it's about mindset. My mindset's different. I
believe that every day when I wake up, it's different.
It's kind of our family model with my wife and
I were just built different, and that's the attitude that
I brought into that building. I felt that I was
a little disrespected by not getting any offers during that offseason.
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I feel like I perform at a high level my
entire career and then for nobody want to come after me.
I was like, man, just because I'm I turned over thirty,
You're going to say, oh he's old, now he's washed.
But then when I got on the football field, it
was the right fit. Chuck Smith, Coach Harbaugh really really
just kind of let me do my thing, really put
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that leadership role on me, and I was able to
not think with Mike Mack and now I don't have
to think with Zachary Orr. They do a really good
job that put me in positions to succeed, and I've
really taken off. I play with a bunch of really
good players like Rokwan Smith, Kyle Hamilton, Nomdi, matt A
bk and then Adafeo Way and we just do our
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thing together, and I'm really grateful.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
To be with the group.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The core group that they have is something I haven't
been around in the league, to be honest, and they're special.
Tamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Tyler Lindenbaum.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Did you know special?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Did you know in camp when you guys acquired Derek Henry?
Could you tell in camp, oh, this is gonna be
a load.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I don't know if I want to say that, Colin,
but I thought they were going to be really good.
I thought the way that they were operating the way
that the offensive coordinator was calling plays during fall camp.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You knew it was going to be a work in progress, right.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
We saw the first game where people were a little
unhappy against Kansas City at the time, but then it
took off from there and we really relied.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
On both of them.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And one thing I'll say about that duo is it
was the first time I believed that they both played
with superstars and they elevated each other because they knew
they didn't have to do everything, but at the same time,
when it was their time to shine, they took it
up another level. And so that's something that I watched
during the season. It was awesome. The leadership that Derrick
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Henry brings, the attitude he brings is exceptional. It exudes
through the entire building. Everybody you know likes to be
around those two. And Lamar Jackson is the best teammate.
He hangs out with everybody does. He knows everybody's name.
He's a joy to be in the locker room. We
know you talk very highly of him, and I'm sure
he appreciates that You're one of his big cheerleaders in
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the media. Even though he's had, you know, his downs
in the playoffs, but I think that's part of his journey.
I think that's part of the struggle that he's had
just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I also think it's.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Gonna propel him and the Lamar Jackson that I know
that I see every day. It's gonna feel him and
get him better and better and better. We haven't even seen,
we've seen just a little bit. I think he's got
a whole other level to go.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I've said this, there's a lot of quarterbacks in
the league. There's not a single quarterback that defines the
city and the team like Lamar. Like I love Mahomes,
but that's as much Andy Reid as anybody.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, you could have made that argument.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, yeah, I would. And by the way, I love
Josh Allen and Joe Burrow. I honestly feel if I
would have picked a culture and a shitty for Lamar
Jackson to plan, it would have been always overlooked, often disrespected, tough,
gritty Baltimore. Yeah, it's just it's weird. It's like he
and you played with, You've played with great quarterbacks. That
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the fact that he knows everybody's name, that's kind of
a brady thing.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I mean, Tom was the first person that I met
when I got traded to New England came up to me,
shook my hand and said, my name's Tom Brady, and
I wanted to be like you idiot, I know.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Who you are. Tom's great.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He's a great teammate of yours now at Fox, doing
a great job speaking at games. I do think Lamar
has that. I also think he has a different aura
as well because of the play he has. He has
that highlight real play, so it's it's a different you
know he does Madden plays Tom you know, he's the
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rocket passer. You know, rhythm passer, does everything great mentally
all that. Lamar can just show up and play, and
that's different. Nobody can do that. Only he can do that,
and it's so impressive to watch. They're two complete different players.
I'm so grateful that I got to play with both
of them because Tommy Boy gave me two rings. So
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I'm forever grateful to Big Bro.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So it's funny. So I just love the Ravens so much.
Funny story that, and I never I don't like calling
teams for free tickets.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, not my thing.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I don't want to owe anybody anything. I got that
from my mom. So I called the Ravens and my
daughter was in Baltimore and I said, so I called
the Ravens. I said, I'll pay for him. I don't
like asking for tickets. They're like, it's fine, And they
sat my daughter right next to Joe Burrow's parents. Yeah,
thank god, I'd been nice to go Burrow. Yeah, but
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it's such a class organization. What is it about Horball? Yeah,
the secret saw like he's kind of a man's man.
Like when I look at John, it's always like, if
you do your job, yeah, he will treat you. He
just expects you to be a pro.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yep, you know, I want to start where you just
went with the organization. Mister Bouschatti, amazing owner, one of
the best I've been around, top down, loves football, wants
the team to win. But he pours money into the organization.
He gives everybody, you know that a one treatment, doesn't
matter who you are in the building. He doesn't a
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phenomenal job. So I do have to commend him for that,
And I'm glad you had a great experience with him.
But it starts with him and then with John Harbaugh.
I just believe for him What separates him as his
relationships to players. He truly cares about what you think
and how you see things. And he literally goes up
to anybody and will ask and he takes tidbits from
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everybody and he puts it into his program. He doesn't
just focus on, you know, his way or the highway.
He adjusts. That's why he's lasted so long. It's an
adapter die mentality. If you stay the same for so long,
you're not gonna improve, You're not going to get better,
You're not going to keep this excellence.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
That's what I see.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
The difference between him is that mentality to always get
better each and every year and the trust that he
has with his players in the relationship. He's a relationship guy.
He's a tough guy. He likes to get after it
in the weight room himself. Every single day at five o'clock,
he's in that weight room and that's the kind of
attitude he has without the same day, and he has
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that standard for everybody, that standard of excellence.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You know, we're going into an NFL draft and one
of the things about football, Matt Slater's a guy you
played with the New England. Yeah, like nineteen years or
something in the NFL. So much of what you bring
when I listen to you talk is about professionalism.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And if you could sit down with young football players
and just say listen, I'm gonna give you two things
about pro football. Okay, you didn't go to a football factory,
they'll be why use a great school. It's a really
good program. Yes, and they've done a great job through
the years of getting players ready for pro football. And again,
a school that has a I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
We got good ones, Pooka, we got Fred Warner.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh, I know, no, No, it's always delivered NFL quality guys.
Good program.
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Speaker 1 (09:39):
What would you tell a young guy, I'm a linebacker,
I'm from Texas A and m a's four star. What
would be the two things you'd say? Okay, young man,
here's the difference with pro football.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Oh man, listen, you don't know everything. And two, put
your head down and work, and I mean work smart
and hard. Those are the two things I would say.
I would say, listen to your ogs, listen to what's
happening around, scope it out and work hard. Put your
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head down and work and work smartly. And you put
those two together, I think you'll be really successful. I
think too many guys come in with the mindset they
know it all, which some of them do know a lot.
But I think there are some players that have played
a really long time. There's coaches that I've coached a
really long time. So you should listen. You should listen
to the players. You should see how professional players. This
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guy works, this guy, how he handles his business. And
then the smart work of you've already put in the
work to get here, continue to do that, but add
stuff to that. That's where that smart comes in. Add
this to your game. Okay, that guy's doing a little
extra work, I'm going to put that into my game.
That guy's on the jugs a little bit more, I'm
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going to put that in my game. Something that Julian
Edelman did was he paid a equipment guy at our
facility in New England, and he would pay him every
year to shoot extra jugs at him and he would
catch so many balls each and every day. I know
Zay Flowers does the same thing in Baltimore. So there's
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different nuggets that you can see if you just watch.
Something I picked up at when I was a professional
as a rookie was Calvin Johnson, an amazing superstar receiver.
He did conditioning in the morning, and so my ass
did conditioning in the morning him, Coach.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Caldwell, myself, I just watched. I didn't do.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I didn't play as much as I did, but I
knew that once I did with the preparation that I
had learning from Calvin Johnson, learning from Rashid mathis the
study he did the Glover Quinns, asking all the questions
that he did over the years. I knew when I
was going to get my shot. I knew I was
going to be ready. And I think just being able
to listen, just be able to put that head down
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and work and work smartly, helped me become the professional
that I am today.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
As you get older again, you're a pro bowler twelve
and a half sacks. Let's say it's November, you're in
week ten eleven, You're banged up, you have a little
bit of a semi high ankle spring.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Do you have a bye week or already had it?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Nope, already had it. Okay, and you're you can play,
but you're dinged up. Have you found your diet has
changed since your rookie year?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Oh yeah, let's.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Talk about that. So what do you do? Let's talk
in season, because we all know by Thanksgiving everybody's beat up.
And it's not like just I'm a little tired, it's
I hurt in multiple places. How has it changed your
diet and prep.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
That's a really good question. I think it's funny. I
even change it in the off season. For example, I
heard you being a big health guy earlier. Magnesium. That's
awesome for you. Something I just did was a seventy
two hour water fast. I didn't eat for seventy two hours.
I just did straight water just to get my system
flushed out and just feel good. And it was hard
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for the first two days, and then that third day
it was like clarity. It was like spiritual experience. It
was amazing, but it was just a reset on my
body just to get all the gunk that I had
and went to a family vacation in Maui. I ate
very good, but I wanted to reset to get ready
for this season, and I literally start from the ground up,
just like I did with my body. I work with
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my feet and go all the way up to my head.
And I do the same thing with my diet. I
start from the ground of you know, doing this seventy
two hour water fast and then it's like, okay, we're
on this eating healthy path and it's a lot of
meat and vegetables.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
That's basically.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I don't like to do carbs until the day of
the game because that helps you fuel you. But I
really stay away from carbs during the season to feel good,
feel light, and then during before the game I'll put
it on a couple extra pounds to get get it going.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Is there a team in the league that you just
can't hide your disdain form like.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You just Oh, they know it. Those teams know it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
They know the Buffalo Bills, they know I've played them
all those years, Deon Dawkins, Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
They know you am angry.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, I mean Patrick Mahomes, he knows uh him and
Travis Kelsey. And then recently it's been the Steelers. And
I don't think it's more so the Steelers players. They're
relatively good a couple of them, but it's been more
of the coaches like it's stuff on the sideline that
no one gets to see that the Mike Doves haven't
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picked up the coaches trash. Yeah, yeah, especially like it's
a competitive game, right and I love trash talking, But
all those games have been close.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It hasn't been like.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
We've beat we've whipped you, or you know thoas always. Yeah,
the new phrases people say belt to ass like that's
kind of the new phrase, but that's when someone gets
really beat, right, and for us, like they've been in
competitive games, I feel like it hasn't been Tomlin, it's
been the other coaches around have been kind of talking
a little trash, and so the disdains getting back with
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that Pittsburgh Ravens rivalry. I feel like it wasn't there
when I first got to the Ravens. It's been mostly
the Cincinnati Bengals in US, and I feel like it's
going back to that raven Steelers rivalry that we've been
so accustomed to.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Who is and it could be one of your teammates
in all the years in the NFL could be Logan Mankins.
I don't know what is there an offensive lineman that's
coming around the corner and you know it is it
is two hours in the gym, like somebody that you
have so much respectful. Yeah, even the night before you're
like on that trap play.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, it's funny you say this. It's actually a member
of the soon to be Hall of Fame should be
from the Ravens and Ring of Honor for the Ravens,
Marshall Yonda. Marshall Yonda, me and Hie Tower would talk
about him because back when we were playing in New England,
we played open B gaps, which means there's you get
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an end and then you get a no traditional nose
guard and then there's an open B gap which is
the guard and then it's you. So it's one on
one with Marshall Yonda. It's about you're about to have
a long day with him. That was somebody that I
always respected.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Physicality.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, he was physical and strong and he wasn't afraid
of nobody, Like you had to come, you had to
bring it every play and playing against him and Ossemile
when he was with the Raiders with Gabe Jackson when
they had an older Marshawn Lynch. Yeah, Ossemile who also
played for the Ravens. He was so strong. Oh, just
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mean you had to like tell him, hey, you're playing
great this season, you know, yeah, you're playing so good,
you know, just take it easy on this play.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
A guy.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, those two, those two players I had a lot
of respect for. And then Zach Martin played him and
it wasn't a physical standpoint that you were you were like,
it's going to be a long day, But it was
more of he's a great football player. He's going to
be ready to go. He knows what he's doing, and
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he's fast and he's strong, and he's not overpowering you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
He's just quick. He's kind of technician.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Technician, just like Jason Kelsey was, just like Alex Mack was.
I remember getting ready for him for the Super Bowl
back in twenty sixteen in New England and how fast
he was able to climb up on the backers to
run and like cut him off on his cut blocks.
Those guys not necessarily like a little brute force, but
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those guys technician wise, those three were really really good
at their craft.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
By the way, it should be noted that the two
most physical guys you mentioned played for the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
As they did. It is always yeah, It's always.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Been their culture. Yes, Harball's love tough guys.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yes he does.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
And that guy that's the toughness guy for us. The
two guys that I that jump off as Travis Jones
and Nomdi Mattabik. Those two are a force in the
interior D line. They're up and coming. Their ability, their
their arrow is pointing very very up of both their careers.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
What a pleasure to see you again, man, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Thanks for having me. I love being here. I love
watching you and doing your thing. LA is going to
miss you. So appreciate you doing everything that you've done,
and not just this community. I know you're here still
for a while. I know you're going to Chicago, but
would appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
By the way, by using number six seed, they just
go a lot of three.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
They should have been higher, but you know, sec they
got to get their glory right. But the thing about
Brigham that I'm gonna say is you better watch out.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
They show a lot of threes. They make a lot
of threes.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Everybody.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Jim, I am buddy with Jim Er Jimmer.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You know he he led us almost to the Promised Land,
did a really really good job. I think we have
another phenomenal player in Richie Saunders, who is all Big
twelve this year. Just underrated Big twelve. I know you
weren't necessarily hot on Arizona, but I feel like four,
oh you do you were hot? I apologize, Yes, yes,
Caleb Love very very good.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Center baser is, yes, yes he was. Nothing Early's played
well now.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Correct, They're very good. I like Texas Tech. They're tough,
job great pick Houston. If they can shoot it well,
I'm I'm very high on them.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
That's a big if though, because they do play defense.
They do play phenomenal deeps.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Michigan State not a lot of shooters.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yes, but they're coming alive in the In the Big
Twelve tournament, they shot really, really well. I'm very excited
to see what the pig Big twelve does. I feel
like they've been underrated, just like their football programs were
during the bowl season. I think they're gonna do the
same thing in this tournament. I really really like the
Big twelve, the teams that they have. They're tough, they're physical,
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they play that style. The referees let them play down there,
but BYU they're shooting ability. If they get hot, I'd
be scared if I'm anybody in the tournament, because they're
putting up ninety points and you're like, well, I gotta
guard this guy, but this guy over here can shoot,
and I really want to put a lot of pressure
on Igor Demon. I know he's a freshman, but he's
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not a freshman anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Don't they have some great recruit coming next year?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yes, they do. Aj number one basketball player in the country.
I'm not positive. I think from Boston, Boston area.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He chose BYU. YESLDS.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I don't believe he's LDS, but he might as well
be right that checks LDS.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
No, I'm just kidding, but I think it's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I think it's going through all the sports there at BYU.
I think it's been a shift in guard.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, they've always had money.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
They have.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It's secretly they've had a lot of money. Yes they do,
but it's not even the church is Demian out. I
think the donors and the boosters are the one providing
all the money. When you have a guy that owns
the Utah Jazz and Ryan Smith, you have Danny Ainge
who's also happened with Utah Jazz. When they're heavily involved,
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I just played with the number one one of the
top golfer recruits the other day.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Key Hey. He was getting.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Offers from Alabama and Oklahoma State. He ended up choosing
chose BYU to stay close to home. But because of
that group of boosters and donors that are bringing in
not only money, but that respect of hey, I can
help you get to that next level. That's who you
want to be with, you know. And I'm starting to
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get it involved a little bit more. I would like
to kind of not be all the way in like
Steph Curry is, but be able to help young men,
be able to say, hey, if you do those things,
you can be a pro and get to that next level.
I think that's awesome what Steph Curry's doing with his
former college.
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Speaker 6 (23:32):
Let's get started with Chedre Sanders and Dion's and everybody
loves these two guys. You know they're both but the Obviously,
Shador is probably gonna go in the top five. He's
the most famous player and most discussed in the draft.
His dad, Dion says that's not an issue at all.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Shador is a workaholder.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
You guys know that he is who he is, and
sometimes people forget what he's accomplished here at CEU and
have in how good he is, because you got to
take a shot at somebody, and you might as well
take a shot as the Sanders were built.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
For this than that? Huh?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
How about that? We're built for this?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Is he is?
Speaker 6 (24:14):
He built to go to the Cleveland Browns Well, a
factory of sadness, that's what they call that place.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Is he built for that?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Not everybody is.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
We had no run game and a bad old line
in Colorado for two years. I think he is built for.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Baker Mayfield was a career underdog, went to Cleveland, made
the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
They ran him out of town.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Like I'm just telling you, it's Cleveland is a brutal
place too.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Well, Baker started some of those fires.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
True, Yeah, Well, is he built to lose with the
New York Giants to go through a coaching change after.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, I mean that Colorado didn't win big.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
It's all he was running big his dad, who cares well, Yeah,
I mean with his dad, by the way, since college,
actually dating back to high school, I believe.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Yeah, he's been with his dad the whole time. And
now it's like maybe he's tired.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Well, maybe he's tired of his dad.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Maybe he's tired of it. Maybe he's like, hey, I
want to play for somebody else but dad. I'm not
saying that's not a shot of Dion. I mean, I
think when your dad's Deon Sanders, you're you can handle
the spotlight. I think he's gonna be fun.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Why are we saying this stuff about cam Warden?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Is he built for Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Why?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Why are we saying, whoa, he is built for Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
They need him.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
The only one getting criticized is Shaduur. Nobody's criticizing cam
ward Why is well, Cam's a more explosive, dynamic athlete,
so he looks like the obvious number one. Nobody's doubting that.
But we don't know. I mean, remember we had Jeff
Schwartz on earlier last week and he talked about cam
Warden He's like, you know, he hasn't played from the
pocket much like it's gonna be. Shadur is a classic
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pocket quarterback who played with no run game at Colorado.
I think Shadur is built for the NFL. Super accurate.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
All right, let's move on to Mike up Parsons. Colony's
eligible for a contract extension. Dallas keeps dragging their feet, Man,
this is this is just get embarrassing us. So yesterday
we had Derek Stingley reset the cornerback market, a day
after the Bengals made Jamar Chase the highest paid non
QB in the NFL. Miles Garrett also has a new deal,
and Parsons could surpass all of them.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Colin, what is Dallas waiting for?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
I don't even know where to go at this point,
Like what what could Jerry possibly be thinking?
Speaker 8 (26:21):
What's the thought process?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Do?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Why?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well? CD? I mean, you have to be a quarterback
and CD is the better player. Maybe he's just waiting.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Do you think he's tinkering with the idea of trading
Michael Parsons before the draft and getting like a top
five pick.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think that's one of the three or four things
that's being considered. I have I think with Micah Parsons,
they want to see how the draft goes. I think,
you know, people get crazy on draft night. All of
a sudden, somebody calls and says, we'll give you a
first for Micah Parsons at number eleven and Gen T's available.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
Well, hold on, let's let's back up.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Let's say the Browns do something crazy and don't take
Shadueur Sanders two, and the Giants are on the clock
at three. Do they take Shadure or would they want
Micah Parsons poss I don't know what would anybody in the.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Top Well, if they need a quarterback, use another team
New England. New England's like, well, we don't need a quarterback.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
We have our quarterback.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
We just sign our defensive tackle. We've got our corners.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
It's chaudure falls. I mean, I guess the Giants are.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, what if Mike Rabel's like right before the drafts
so that I can take Travis Hunter or I can
actually get Micah Parsons. I'll give you Micah Parsons for
a first.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Number one pick because because it's Gonnafford, Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Next three years.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Drake May's like on Pennies on the rookie deal. I
wonder if he's cooking up a trade.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I think it's one of the three or four things
they're considering.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
And while they consider, everybody else gets paid.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I can see Jerry Jones saying, listen, we need another
It's it's a really good tight end draft. And all
of a sudden, let's say the Jets get to number
seven and Jerry calls and says, Aaron Glenn, you love defense.
We'll give you a mic up Parsons, you give us
the seventh pick, and they take Darren Waller, the tight
end penn State, Tyler Ward, Tyler Ward my body, And
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all of a sudden, Dallas has Ceedee Lamb, the best
tied end in the draft. Dak Prescott O line's getting
better and we get a running.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Back in the line getting better.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well, I mean they were young last year.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
We got some work to do.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Would you do that if you were the Jets?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Well, we said it's like seven months ago, think about
trading Michael Parsons. But now, I mean, I think you're
limited with your options now because you've waited, so damn.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
What is Jerry Jones doing.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Do you have a line to him? By the way, No,
that's disappointed. I thought you were super connected in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
You can't get Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
On the oard, the Cowboys or the If you're not
last name isn't Jones, You're not connected.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Take it your calls, all right.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Final story, Colin, A little skirmish in the NBA last night,
is you're watching on the screen. Look at the elbows,
flying basketball.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Being thrown into.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Nemard and Rudy.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Gobert got into it. Your typical NBA shoving match. Look
at that you just hit Conley with the elbow. And
then Gobert's seen enough and Nemard said you want some
of this?
Speaker 8 (29:10):
And Gobert is like, you know, towering over him. Look
at that. That's a shoulder to face.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I like this.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Getting high five teammates.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You gotta defend your teammates. Anybody, anybody give you a
cheap foul, I'd go over there coming in, Oh you
got my back. I don't cheap shots on j Max.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
You know, people don't know this, but when we hang
out sometimes people will keep coming up to cow hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
And I've got a kind of bodyguard.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I gotta stick the chest out a little bit like Hey,
stand back, settle down, super fan boy. By the way,
the Pacers went off in overtime, Obi topping in a
bunch of threes.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
And Pacers are sneaky in the East.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Collins, you got talent.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
I said they were potentially Eastern con I mean the
Pacers are kind.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Of a fun watch. I like watching them. Talented team.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
I did not see Cleveland coming, did you. I didn't
see this.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, well I didn't see I didn't think
to be this good. But the last two years, know
they have a bunch of talent. They're all you know,
like Evan Mobley keeps getting better at the time you
see him. I'm not shot. Cleveland's real good.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Seven games up on the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I contended Oklahoma City is last year's Cleveland. We're a
little ahead of ourselves. They need another year of growth
before they can go on the road and win big
playoff games.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Yeah, you keep telling me I need another year of growth.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
You do do believe me? Read you are you are?
You're Cleveland two years ago. A lot of sizzle. I
love State. I love to a lot of chattles round exit.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Damn who am I Kentucky out?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Uh Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Kyle van Ney, Adam Wainwright, Nick Wright. Okay, we have
J Max's updated picks for the final four. So this
is this is this is J Max's actual bracket. Oh
look at that. You got Auburn. Suddenly in tells like
you listen to uncle column.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Now listen, people are gonna get the screen grap and
be like, look at this chalky clown again.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
This is for the contest head to head, you and me? Yeah,
monoy motto.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So you went Auburn as well. Now who do you
have winning?
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Bro Saint John's is probably going down second round to Kansas,
just fay. I have Duke winning at all. Duke over Florida.
The two best teams of the country. Arizona's going to
just ruin you. Tennessee is interesting. I'm looking at their bracket.
It's manageable.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Well, I Rick Barnes and big Games.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Where reason we need to make this interesting?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
When the opener up for the audience to come up
with loser, does what.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
No, don't leave it to the audience. I wouldn't even
leave it to our producers. I don't trust them. Lose
something zany I'll be jumping out of a plane or something.
Have you ever done that? By the way, no, God
and my son has.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I never would.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
Would you bungee jump?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I've done that before. I'm not going to do it again.
But yeah, I'm not jumping out of a plane. But
I bungee jumped off a bridge. You should see what
my daughter did.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
It sounds plane, but off a bridge.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Okay, Maybe I'll get another tattoo or something.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
He has been in the NFL five different teams, and
yet he's productive with all of them. A Kyle van
Noy eleven years, a two time Super Bowl champ, both
of the Patriots. So this is interesting. Let's start with this.
Do you watch Kyle? Do you watch free agency?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I mean, the first thing I'm going to say is yes,
because we saw Jamar Chase and T Higgins what they
just got right. They're in our division. We have to
watch that. I mean, that's amazing that they got those
deals done up there, and at the amount that they did.
They went all in on offense, so that it was
pretty razy for a team to do it. But I'm
happy for him. I got to spend some time with
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Jamar Chase at the Pro Bowl and Joe Burrow, two
very extraordinary young men in this game that are just
going to grow even more. Just two really good dudes
at what they do with their craft, and so I'm
happy for him to get their money, but not happy
when we have to play on twice a year.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, it's interesting because I talked to you a year ago.
I think it was before you signed with the Ravens.
You ended up twelve and a half sacks, major first
Pro Bowl, let's go. So it's interesting. That's not the
way it usually works. We get older. Yeah, yet you
So I'm going to say some of this obviously a
lot to you, but some of it had to be fit.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, was it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I think a little bit is about fit, but I
also more think it's about mindset. My mindset's different. I
believe that every day when I wake up, it's different.
It's kind of our family model with my wife and
I were just built different, and that's the attitude that
I brought into that building. I felt that I was
a little disrespected by not getting any offers during that offseason.
(02:06):
I feel like I perform at a high level my
entire career and then for nobody want to come after me.
I was like, man, just because I'm I turned over thirty,
You're going to say, oh he's old, now he's washed.
But then when I got on the football field, it
was the right fit. Chuck Smith, Coach Harbaugh really really
just kind of let me do my thing, really put
(02:29):
that leadership role on me, and I was able to
not think with Mike Mack and now I don't have
to think with Zachary Orr. They do a really good
job that put me in positions to succeed, and I've
really taken off. I play with a bunch of really
good players like Rokwan Smith, Kyle Hamilton, Nomdi, matt A
bk and then Adafeo Way and we just do our
(02:50):
thing together, and I'm really grateful.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
To be with the group.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The core group that they have is something I haven't
been around in the league, to be honest, and they're special.
Tamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Tyler Lindenbaum.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Did you know special?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Did you know in camp when you guys acquired Derek Henry?
Could you tell in camp, oh, this is gonna be
a load.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I don't know if I want to say that, Colin,
but I thought they were going to be really good.
I thought the way that they were operating the way
that the offensive coordinator was calling plays during fall camp.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You knew it was going to be a work in progress, right.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
We saw the first game where people were a little
unhappy against Kansas City at the time, but then it
took off from there and we really relied.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
On both of them.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And one thing I'll say about that duo is it
was the first time I believed that they both played
with superstars and they elevated each other because they knew
they didn't have to do everything, but at the same time,
when it was their time to shine, they took it
up another level. And so that's something that I watched
during the season. It was awesome. The leadership that Derrick
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Henry brings, the attitude he brings is exceptional. It exudes
through the entire building. Everybody you know likes to be
around those two. And Lamar Jackson is the best teammate.
He hangs out with everybody does. He knows everybody's name.
He's a joy to be in the locker room. We
know you talk very highly of him, and I'm sure
he appreciates that You're one of his big cheerleaders in
(04:21):
the media. Even though he's had, you know, his downs
in the playoffs, but I think that's part of his journey.
I think that's part of the struggle that he's had
just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I also think it's.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Gonna propel him and the Lamar Jackson that I know
that I see every day. It's gonna feel him and
get him better and better and better. We haven't even seen,
we've seen just a little bit. I think he's got
a whole other level to go.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I've said this, there's a lot of quarterbacks in
the league. There's not a single quarterback that defines the
city and the team like Lamar. Like I love Mahomes,
but that's as much Andy Reid as anybody.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, you could have made that argument.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, yeah, I would. And by the way, I love
Josh Allen and Joe Burrow. I honestly feel if I
would have picked a culture and a shitty for Lamar
Jackson to plan, it would have been always overlooked, often disrespected, tough,
gritty Baltimore. Yeah, it's just it's weird. It's like he
and you played with, You've played with great quarterbacks. That
(05:22):
the fact that he knows everybody's name, that's kind of
a brady thing.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I mean, Tom was the first person that I met
when I got traded to New England came up to me,
shook my hand and said, my name's Tom Brady, and
I wanted to be like you idiot, I know.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Who you are. Tom's great.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He's a great teammate of yours now at Fox, doing
a great job speaking at games. I do think Lamar
has that. I also think he has a different aura
as well because of the play he has. He has
that highlight real play, so it's it's a different you
know he does Madden plays Tom you know, he's the
(06:00):
rocket passer. You know, rhythm passer, does everything great mentally
all that. Lamar can just show up and play, and
that's different. Nobody can do that. Only he can do that,
and it's so impressive to watch. They're two complete different players.
I'm so grateful that I got to play with both
of them because Tommy Boy gave me two rings. So
(06:21):
I'm forever grateful to Big Bro.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So it's funny. So I just love the Ravens so much.
Funny story that, and I never I don't like calling
teams for free tickets.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, not my thing.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I don't want to owe anybody anything. I got that
from my mom. So I called the Ravens and my
daughter was in Baltimore and I said, so I called
the Ravens. I said, I'll pay for him. I don't
like asking for tickets. They're like, it's fine, And they
sat my daughter right next to Joe Burrow's parents. Yeah,
thank god, I'd been nice to go Burrow. Yeah, but
(06:53):
it's such a class organization. What is it about Horball? Yeah,
the secret saw like he's kind of a man's man.
Like when I look at John, it's always like, if
you do your job, yeah, he will treat you. He
just expects you to be a pro.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yep, you know, I want to start where you just
went with the organization. Mister Bouschatti, amazing owner, one of
the best I've been around, top down, loves football, wants
the team to win. But he pours money into the organization.
He gives everybody, you know that a one treatment, doesn't
matter who you are in the building. He doesn't a
(07:32):
phenomenal job. So I do have to commend him for that,
And I'm glad you had a great experience with him.
But it starts with him and then with John Harbaugh.
I just believe for him What separates him as his
relationships to players. He truly cares about what you think
and how you see things. And he literally goes up
to anybody and will ask and he takes tidbits from
(07:56):
everybody and he puts it into his program. He doesn't
just focus on, you know, his way or the highway.
He adjusts. That's why he's lasted so long. It's an
adapter die mentality. If you stay the same for so long,
you're not gonna improve, You're not going to get better,
You're not going to keep this excellence.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
That's what I see.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
The difference between him is that mentality to always get
better each and every year and the trust that he
has with his players in the relationship. He's a relationship guy.
He's a tough guy. He likes to get after it
in the weight room himself. Every single day at five o'clock,
he's in that weight room and that's the kind of
attitude he has without the same day, and he has
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that standard for everybody, that standard of excellence.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You know, we're going into an NFL draft and one
of the things about football, Matt Slater's a guy you
played with the New England. Yeah, like nineteen years or
something in the NFL. So much of what you bring
when I listen to you talk is about professionalism.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And if you could sit down with young football players
and just say listen, I'm gonna give you two things
about pro football. Okay, you didn't go to a football factory,
they'll be why use a great school. It's a really
good program. Yes, and they've done a great job through
the years of getting players ready for pro football. And again,
a school that has a I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
We got good ones, Pooka, we got Fred Warner.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh, I know, no, No, it's always delivered NFL quality guys.
Good program.
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Speaker 1 (09:39):
What would you tell a young guy, I'm a linebacker,
I'm from Texas A and m a's four star. What
would be the two things you'd say? Okay, young man,
here's the difference with pro football.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Oh man, listen, you don't know everything. And two, put
your head down and work, and I mean work smart
and hard. Those are the two things I would say.
I would say, listen to your ogs, listen to what's
happening around, scope it out and work hard. Put your
(10:14):
head down and work and work smartly. And you put
those two together, I think you'll be really successful. I
think too many guys come in with the mindset they
know it all, which some of them do know a lot.
But I think there are some players that have played
a really long time. There's coaches that I've coached a
really long time. So you should listen. You should listen
to the players. You should see how professional players. This
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guy works, this guy, how he handles his business. And
then the smart work of you've already put in the
work to get here, continue to do that, but add
stuff to that. That's where that smart comes in. Add
this to your game. Okay, that guy's doing a little
extra work, I'm going to put that into my game.
That guy's on the jugs a little bit more, I'm
(10:58):
going to put that in my game. Something that Julian
Edelman did was he paid a equipment guy at our
facility in New England, and he would pay him every
year to shoot extra jugs at him and he would
catch so many balls each and every day. I know
Zay Flowers does the same thing in Baltimore. So there's
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different nuggets that you can see if you just watch.
Something I picked up at when I was a professional
as a rookie was Calvin Johnson, an amazing superstar receiver.
He did conditioning in the morning, and so my ass
did conditioning in the morning him, Coach.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Caldwell, myself, I just watched. I didn't do.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I didn't play as much as I did, but I
knew that once I did with the preparation that I
had learning from Calvin Johnson, learning from Rashid mathis the
study he did the Glover Quinns, asking all the questions
that he did over the years. I knew when I
was going to get my shot. I knew I was
going to be ready. And I think just being able
to listen, just be able to put that head down
(12:00):
and work and work smartly, helped me become the professional
that I am today.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
As you get older again, you're a pro bowler twelve
and a half sacks. Let's say it's November, you're in
week ten eleven, You're banged up, you have a little
bit of a semi high ankle spring.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Do you have a bye week or already had it?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Nope, already had it. Okay, and you're you can play,
but you're dinged up. Have you found your diet has
changed since your rookie year?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Oh yeah, let's.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Talk about that. So what do you do? Let's talk
in season, because we all know by Thanksgiving everybody's beat up.
And it's not like just I'm a little tired, it's
I hurt in multiple places. How has it changed your
diet and prep.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
That's a really good question. I think it's funny. I
even change it in the off season. For example, I
heard you being a big health guy earlier. Magnesium. That's
awesome for you. Something I just did was a seventy
two hour water fast. I didn't eat for seventy two hours.
I just did straight water just to get my system
flushed out and just feel good. And it was hard
(13:08):
for the first two days, and then that third day
it was like clarity. It was like spiritual experience. It
was amazing, but it was just a reset on my
body just to get all the gunk that I had
and went to a family vacation in Maui. I ate
very good, but I wanted to reset to get ready
for this season, and I literally start from the ground up,
just like I did with my body. I work with
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my feet and go all the way up to my head.
And I do the same thing with my diet. I
start from the ground of you know, doing this seventy
two hour water fast and then it's like, okay, we're
on this eating healthy path and it's a lot of
meat and vegetables.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
That's basically.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I don't like to do carbs until the day of
the game because that helps you fuel you. But I
really stay away from carbs during the season to feel good,
feel light, and then during before the game I'll put
it on a couple extra pounds to get get it going.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Is there a team in the league that you just
can't hide your disdain form like.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You just Oh, they know it. Those teams know it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
They know the Buffalo Bills, they know I've played them
all those years, Deon Dawkins, Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
They know you am angry.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, I mean Patrick Mahomes, he knows uh him and
Travis Kelsey. And then recently it's been the Steelers. And
I don't think it's more so the Steelers players. They're
relatively good a couple of them, but it's been more
of the coaches like it's stuff on the sideline that
no one gets to see that the Mike Doves haven't
(14:43):
picked up the coaches trash. Yeah, yeah, especially like it's
a competitive game, right and I love trash talking, But
all those games have been close.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It hasn't been like.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
We've beat we've whipped you, or you know thoas always. Yeah,
the new phrases people say belt to ass like that's
kind of the new phrase, but that's when someone gets
really beat, right, and for us, like they've been in
competitive games, I feel like it hasn't been Tomlin, it's
been the other coaches around have been kind of talking
a little trash, and so the disdains getting back with
(15:19):
that Pittsburgh Ravens rivalry. I feel like it wasn't there
when I first got to the Ravens. It's been mostly
the Cincinnati Bengals in US, and I feel like it's
going back to that raven Steelers rivalry that we've been
so accustomed to.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Who is and it could be one of your teammates
in all the years in the NFL could be Logan Mankins.
I don't know what is there an offensive lineman that's
coming around the corner and you know it is it
is two hours in the gym, like somebody that you
have so much respectful. Yeah, even the night before you're
like on that trap play.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, it's funny you say this. It's actually a member
of the soon to be Hall of Fame should be
from the Ravens and Ring of Honor for the Ravens,
Marshall Yonda. Marshall Yonda, me and Hie Tower would talk
about him because back when we were playing in New England,
we played open B gaps, which means there's you get
(16:18):
an end and then you get a no traditional nose
guard and then there's an open B gap which is
the guard and then it's you. So it's one on
one with Marshall Yonda. It's about you're about to have
a long day with him. That was somebody that I
always respected.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Physicality.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, he was physical and strong and he wasn't afraid
of nobody, Like you had to come, you had to
bring it every play and playing against him and Ossemile
when he was with the Raiders with Gabe Jackson when
they had an older Marshawn Lynch. Yeah, Ossemile who also
played for the Ravens. He was so strong. Oh, just
(16:58):
mean you had to like tell him, hey, you're playing
great this season, you know, yeah, you're playing so good,
you know, just take it easy on this play.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
A guy.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, those two, those two players I had a lot
of respect for. And then Zach Martin played him and
it wasn't a physical standpoint that you were you were like,
it's going to be a long day, But it was
more of he's a great football player. He's going to
be ready to go. He knows what he's doing, and
(17:32):
he's fast and he's strong, and he's not overpowering you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
He's just quick. He's kind of technician.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Technician, just like Jason Kelsey was, just like Alex Mack was.
I remember getting ready for him for the Super Bowl
back in twenty sixteen in New England and how fast
he was able to climb up on the backers to
run and like cut him off on his cut blocks.
Those guys not necessarily like a little brute force, but
(17:59):
those guys technician wise, those three were really really good
at their craft.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
By the way, it should be noted that the two
most physical guys you mentioned played for the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
As they did. It is always yeah, It's always.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Been their culture. Yes, Harball's love tough guys.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yes he does.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
And that guy that's the toughness guy for us. The
two guys that I that jump off as Travis Jones
and Nomdi Mattabik. Those two are a force in the
interior D line. They're up and coming. Their ability, their
their arrow is pointing very very up of both their careers.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
What a pleasure to see you again, man, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Thanks for having me. I love being here. I love
watching you and doing your thing. LA is going to
miss you. So appreciate you doing everything that you've done,
and not just this community. I know you're here still
for a while. I know you're going to Chicago, but
would appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
By the way, by using number six seed, they just
go a lot of three.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
They should have been higher, but you know, sec they
got to get their glory right. But the thing about
Brigham that I'm gonna say is you better watch out.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
They show a lot of threes. They make a lot
of threes.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Everybody.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Jim, I am buddy with Jim Er Jimmer.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You know he he led us almost to the Promised Land,
did a really really good job. I think we have
another phenomenal player in Richie Saunders, who is all Big
twelve this year. Just underrated Big twelve. I know you
weren't necessarily hot on Arizona, but I feel like four,
oh you do you were hot? I apologize, Yes, yes,
Caleb Love very very good.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Center baser is, yes, yes he was. Nothing Early's played
well now.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Correct, They're very good. I like Texas Tech. They're tough,
job great pick Houston. If they can shoot it well,
I'm I'm very high on them.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
That's a big if though, because they do play defense.
They do play phenomenal deeps.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Michigan State not a lot of shooters.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yes, but they're coming alive in the In the Big
Twelve tournament, they shot really, really well. I'm very excited
to see what the pig Big twelve does. I feel
like they've been underrated, just like their football programs were
during the bowl season. I think they're gonna do the
same thing in this tournament. I really really like the
Big twelve, the teams that they have. They're tough, they're physical,
(20:16):
they play that style. The referees let them play down there,
but BYU they're shooting ability. If they get hot, I'd
be scared if I'm anybody in the tournament, because they're
putting up ninety points and you're like, well, I gotta
guard this guy, but this guy over here can shoot,
and I really want to put a lot of pressure
on Igor Demon. I know he's a freshman, but he's
(20:38):
not a freshman anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Don't they have some great recruit coming next year?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yes, they do. Aj number one basketball player in the country.
I'm not positive. I think from Boston, Boston area.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He chose BYU. YESLDS.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I don't believe he's LDS, but he might as well
be right that checks LDS.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
No, I'm just kidding, but I think it's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I think it's going through all the sports there at BYU.
I think it's been a shift in guard.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, they've always had money.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
They have.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It's secretly they've had a lot of money. Yes they do,
but it's not even the church is Demian out. I
think the donors and the boosters are the one providing
all the money. When you have a guy that owns
the Utah Jazz and Ryan Smith, you have Danny Ainge
who's also happened with Utah Jazz. When they're heavily involved,
(21:34):
I just played with the number one one of the
top golfer recruits the other day.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Key Hey. He was getting.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Offers from Alabama and Oklahoma State. He ended up choosing
chose BYU to stay close to home. But because of
that group of boosters and donors that are bringing in
not only money, but that respect of hey, I can
help you get to that next level. That's who you
want to be with, you know. And I'm starting to
(22:02):
get it involved a little bit more. I would like
to kind of not be all the way in like
Steph Curry is, but be able to help young men,
be able to say, hey, if you do those things,
you can be a pro and get to that next level.
I think that's awesome what Steph Curry's doing with his
former college.
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Speaker 6 (23:32):
Let's get started with Chedre Sanders and Dion's and everybody
loves these two guys. You know they're both but the Obviously,
Shador is probably gonna go in the top five. He's
the most famous player and most discussed in the draft.
His dad, Dion says that's not an issue at all.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Shador is a workaholder.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
You guys know that he is who he is, and
sometimes people forget what he's accomplished here at CEU and
have in how good he is, because you got to
take a shot at somebody, and you might as well
take a shot as the Sanders were built.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
For this than that? Huh?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
How about that? We're built for this?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Is he is?
Speaker 6 (24:14):
He built to go to the Cleveland Browns Well, a
factory of sadness, that's what they call that place.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Is he built for that?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Not everybody is.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
We had no run game and a bad old line
in Colorado for two years. I think he is built for.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Baker Mayfield was a career underdog, went to Cleveland, made
the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
They ran him out of town.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Like I'm just telling you, it's Cleveland is a brutal
place too.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Well, Baker started some of those fires.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
True, Yeah, Well, is he built to lose with the
New York Giants to go through a coaching change after.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, I mean that Colorado didn't win big.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
It's all he was running big his dad, who cares well, Yeah,
I mean with his dad, by the way, since college,
actually dating back to high school, I believe.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Yeah, he's been with his dad the whole time. And
now it's like maybe he's tired.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Well, maybe he's tired of his dad.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Maybe he's tired of it. Maybe he's like, hey, I
want to play for somebody else but dad. I'm not
saying that's not a shot of Dion. I mean, I
think when your dad's Deon Sanders, you're you can handle
the spotlight. I think he's gonna be fun.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Why are we saying this stuff about cam Warden?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Is he built for Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Why?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Why are we saying, whoa, he is built for Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
They need him.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
The only one getting criticized is Shaduur. Nobody's criticizing cam
ward Why is well, Cam's a more explosive, dynamic athlete,
so he looks like the obvious number one. Nobody's doubting that.
But we don't know. I mean, remember we had Jeff
Schwartz on earlier last week and he talked about cam
Warden He's like, you know, he hasn't played from the
pocket much like it's gonna be. Shadur is a classic
(25:45):
pocket quarterback who played with no run game at Colorado.
I think Shadur is built for the NFL. Super accurate.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
All right, let's move on to Mike up Parsons. Colony's
eligible for a contract extension. Dallas keeps dragging their feet, Man,
this is this is just get embarrassing us. So yesterday
we had Derek Stingley reset the cornerback market, a day
after the Bengals made Jamar Chase the highest paid non
QB in the NFL. Miles Garrett also has a new deal,
and Parsons could surpass all of them.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Colin, what is Dallas waiting for?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
I don't even know where to go at this point,
Like what what could Jerry possibly be thinking?
Speaker 8 (26:21):
What's the thought process?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Do?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Why?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well? CD? I mean, you have to be a quarterback
and CD is the better player. Maybe he's just waiting.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Do you think he's tinkering with the idea of trading
Michael Parsons before the draft and getting like a top
five pick.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think that's one of the three or four things
that's being considered. I have I think with Micah Parsons,
they want to see how the draft goes. I think,
you know, people get crazy on draft night. All of
a sudden, somebody calls and says, we'll give you a
first for Micah Parsons at number eleven and Gen T's available.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
Well, hold on, let's let's back up.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Let's say the Browns do something crazy and don't take
Shadueur Sanders two, and the Giants are on the clock
at three. Do they take Shadure or would they want
Micah Parsons poss I don't know what would anybody in the.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Top Well, if they need a quarterback, use another team
New England. New England's like, well, we don't need a quarterback.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
We have our quarterback.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
We just sign our defensive tackle. We've got our corners.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
It's chaudure falls. I mean, I guess the Giants are.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, what if Mike Rabel's like right before the drafts
so that I can take Travis Hunter or I can
actually get Micah Parsons. I'll give you Micah Parsons for
a first.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Number one pick because because it's Gonnafford, Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Next three years.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Drake May's like on Pennies on the rookie deal. I
wonder if he's cooking up a trade.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I think it's one of the three or four things
they're considering.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
And while they consider, everybody else gets paid.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I can see Jerry Jones saying, listen, we need another
It's it's a really good tight end draft. And all
of a sudden, let's say the Jets get to number
seven and Jerry calls and says, Aaron Glenn, you love defense.
We'll give you a mic up Parsons, you give us
the seventh pick, and they take Darren Waller, the tight
end penn State, Tyler Ward, Tyler Ward my body, And
(28:14):
all of a sudden, Dallas has Ceedee Lamb, the best
tied end in the draft. Dak Prescott O line's getting
better and we get a running.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Back in the line getting better.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well, I mean they were young last year.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
We got some work to do.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Would you do that if you were the Jets?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Well, we said it's like seven months ago, think about
trading Michael Parsons. But now, I mean, I think you're
limited with your options now because you've waited, so damn.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
What is Jerry Jones doing.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Do you have a line to him? By the way, No,
that's disappointed. I thought you were super connected in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
You can't get Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
On the oard, the Cowboys or the If you're not
last name isn't Jones, You're not connected.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Take it your calls, all right.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Final story, Colin, A little skirmish in the NBA last night,
is you're watching on the screen. Look at the elbows,
flying basketball.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Being thrown into.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Nemard and Rudy.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Gobert got into it. Your typical NBA shoving match. Look
at that you just hit Conley with the elbow. And
then Gobert's seen enough and Nemard said you want some
of this?
Speaker 8 (29:10):
And Gobert is like, you know, towering over him. Look
at that. That's a shoulder to face.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I like this.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Getting high five teammates.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You gotta defend your teammates. Anybody, anybody give you a
cheap foul, I'd go over there coming in, Oh you
got my back. I don't cheap shots on j Max.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
You know, people don't know this, but when we hang
out sometimes people will keep coming up to cow hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
And I've got a kind of bodyguard.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I gotta stick the chest out a little bit like Hey,
stand back, settle down, super fan boy. By the way,
the Pacers went off in overtime, Obi topping in a
bunch of threes.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
And Pacers are sneaky in the East.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Collins, you got talent.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
I said they were potentially Eastern con I mean the
Pacers are kind.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Of a fun watch. I like watching them. Talented team.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
I did not see Cleveland coming, did you. I didn't
see this.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, well I didn't see I didn't think
to be this good. But the last two years, know
they have a bunch of talent. They're all you know,
like Evan Mobley keeps getting better at the time you
see him. I'm not shot. Cleveland's real good.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Seven games up on the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I contended Oklahoma City is last year's Cleveland. We're a
little ahead of ourselves. They need another year of growth
before they can go on the road and win big
playoff games.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Yeah, you keep telling me I need another year of growth.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
You do do believe me? Read you are you are?
You're Cleveland two years ago. A lot of sizzle. I
love State. I love to a lot of chattles round exit.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Damn who am I Kentucky out?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Uh Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Kyle van Ney, Adam Wainwright, Nick Wright. Okay, we have
J Max's updated picks for the final four. So this
is this is this is J Max's actual bracket. Oh
look at that. You got Auburn. Suddenly in tells like
you listen to uncle column.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Now listen, people are gonna get the screen grap and
be like, look at this chalky clown again.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
This is for the contest head to head, you and me? Yeah,
monoy motto.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So you went Auburn as well. Now who do you
have winning?
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Bro Saint John's is probably going down second round to Kansas,
just fay. I have Duke winning at all. Duke over Florida.
The two best teams of the country. Arizona's going to
just ruin you. Tennessee is interesting. I'm looking at their bracket.
It's manageable.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Well, I Rick Barnes and big Games.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Where reason we need to make this interesting?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
When the opener up for the audience to come up
with loser, does what.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
No, don't leave it to the audience. I wouldn't even
leave it to our producers. I don't trust them. Lose
something zany I'll be jumping out of a plane or something.
Have you ever done that? By the way, no, God
and my son has.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I never would.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
Would you bungee jump?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I've done that before. I'm not going to do it again.
But yeah, I'm not jumping out of a plane. But
I bungee jumped off a bridge. You should see what
my daughter did.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
It sounds plane, but off a bridge.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Okay, Maybe I'll get another tattoo or something.
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