Ilia Topuria has BEEN LOUD about Charles Oliveira and Islam Makhachev "ducking him" since his move up to their division, and Daniel Cormier is here to respond to the latest comments from the Spanish champ Topuria. Ilia said Makhachev and Oliveira are scared, and that he doesn't blame them. DC warns Topuria, and explains why neither Charles nor Islam, or any of the top contenders in the division are "afraid" of Topuria "The Legend." And don't miss Cormier's take on who the next fight for Ilia will in fact be! #Volume #Herd
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. All right, So I'm in Mexico City, and
I kind of wish I had something better as a backdrop,
because it's just a white wall. Makes me feel like
I'm in like tension home or something like when the
(00:22):
kid gets in trouble, they go.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
To detention center. So I'm locked out here in Mexico City.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But of course I could never be too far from you,
So I'm trying to get in on this guy. Iliot
to poor You, Hey, Iliots are poor You has been
something else ever since the moment he announced that he
was going up to one point fifty five. Clearly, because
he's such a big star, people will start to talk
about him. But ultimately it was a lot of people
(00:49):
talking before and he didn't have much to say. But lately,
Iliot Topooria has had a lot to say. Iliot to
Pouria is phenomenal. Let's call it what it is. He's
a great fighter, he's undefeated, he's a world champion. He
knocks people out. He really has become a true star
in the UFC and for the UFC. So there's a
lot of excitement that surrounds the things that Illiot to
(01:11):
Pooria does. It was is he gonna fight for the
belt right away. Will Islam fight him?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
He said? Islam said no, will be Charles Olivera. Charles
Olivera said no.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But just just the thing or the point to me
to make in this is that all the conversations include
Iliot to Pouria.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It ain't new weight class, right.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We aren't talking about a guy that's been at one
fifty five the whole time. Hell, I don't know that
he's ever fought that one fifty five. Maybe early in
his career when he was just bringing the weight down,
but in the UFC, he's always been at forty five.
But the important thing is all the conversations surround Iliot
to Pouria right now. Ilias said that he wants a
(01:59):
title fight, point blank. He said that he's focusing all
of his training, and I'll read the quote, all of
my training is focused on Islam or Charles because I
don't see any other opponents. Neither of them seem to
dare to fight me. These are symptoms of fear.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We all know that. But it's normal. I'd be scared too. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Honestly, this is kind of like something that this is
a quote that the Foiders say that sound much cooler,
because if I was to say that, I'd be like, well,
I've only wanted to fight the champions, but they are
scared of me, so that's why, And it wouldn't sound
as cool as like a Spanish Georgian guy Iliotorporian.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Essentially, he's just saying that these.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Guys are scared, but these are symptoms of fear, Like I,
come on, man, you know, come on, iliot to Pooria
is a cool guy. But I kind of disagree. Well,
I know for sure Islama Achev is not afreidom. I'll
tell you this as a person that's a friend of Islam,
a person that's known Islam for years and years, he's
not afraid of them. So while iliot to Pooria may
(03:03):
strike some fear in most are some, it's some's not
afraid of them. Not to say, I'll be honest with you, like,
neither is Justin Gaechee, neither is Charles Olavera, Neither is
Dustin Pourier or Michael Chandler. Those guys aren't afraid of
each other. They're fighters, and when you're a fighter, fear
is kind of the last thing that crosses your mind
(03:24):
in regards to another fighter, especially if all you have
to do is fight him. Nah, do you get a
little bit concerned at times that somebody.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Might shoot you? Of course, it's not a street fight.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You go into an octagon with rules that you're gonna fight,
So fear.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Is the last thing that these guys.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Think when thinking of an opponent, So they're not afraid
of Ilia. I think some of the issues are for
Islam and for Charles is Like Islam wants to fight
someone that's not had been at one forty five, Charles
wants a title fight. There are so many people that
(04:03):
seem to have a clear idea of what their direction is.
That that's why I think they don't want to fight Ilia.
But ultimately, to fight Ilia is to be in the
biggest fight that the weight class can give you. Right now,
because watching this, watching out all this has worked out.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
From the outside, I see now or.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I can respect the type of cache that he has.
He's not just another fighter. Iliot to Pouria carries some
weight with him. And I believe that of all those
guys because we've seen it before. We've seen Serooki in Islam,
We've seen Charles Islam, We've seen Charles, Dustin, Charles, everybody.
(04:44):
We haven't seen Ilia versus those guys, and I believe
because of what he is and who he is, those
fight have the ability to sell. Because when Alex Perera lost,
everybody was saying the biggest winner was tom aspinall because
it took it took the Alsburg John Jones fight off
(05:05):
the table, almost forcing John Jones it to fight in
tom Aspunaut guys. I gotta disagree a little bit. I
think the biggest beneficiary of that was Iliot to Pouria
because I feel, especially watching the way people are responding
and reacting to them, he has that ability to ascend
(05:25):
to one of the biggest stars in the UFC.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Very few people can bring a fight to a country
and sell it out.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Ilia is one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
If they were to go to Spain, they could sell
out to burn a Bell, which is crazy. That's a
huge stadium where Real Madrid plays. I feel confident that
if he was to fight there, he could sell that out.
I'll get into why he won't in a little bit,
but I think that type of star, and I think
(06:02):
the reaction and reception that he's gotten since moving up
has pointed to that, and honestly, I believe it's rooted
in respect because so many athletes, myself included, when.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You go up, you keep the belt.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You want that security, you want that blanket of comfort
to say, if it goes sideways, I still got my
other belt. He said, No, I'm not doing that. I'm
just going up. I'm gonna go and fight at one
fifty five. I'm staying there. Let these other guys get
a chance to become champion. Will that work out in
the long line, I don't know. But he carries this
area of invincibility about him right now and that is
(06:38):
what is allowing him to make these types of decisions.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So, yeah, it's big news.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's a big deal, and this kid seems to be
doing the right things. Sadly, we don't have any idea
what he's doing next. We have no idea what he's
doing next. Charles City wants the tighter shot. I think
Arman Serruki I needs a fight. That would be great.
I think it'd be amazing fight. I just don't know
that those guys are gonna.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Be fighting each other.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Because Armand was a guy that was getting a title fight,
and now he has to fight again. So it's like
a lot of stuff that we talked about in a
couple weeks ago, but all of them seemed to involve
El Mattador, which is not his nickname anymore. I can't
even say what his new nickname is. But they all
seem to involve iliots. To poor you guys, I was
talking about him saying or his ability to sell out
(07:29):
the burna bell.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Aliot said He's unwilling to do that. He said that,
and this is the quote.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's because of the agreement with the UFC in ESPN,
the scheduling issue, because if they bring a numbered event
to Spain, it would have to be at four or
five am to be primetime in the United States. So
I don't see it as a very feasible to have
everyone on their feet at four or five am, he
said during a press conference. He said, even as an athlete,
(07:55):
I don't see myself competing at that time. I did
it once in Abu Dhabi. We have to fight at
such a crazy time and I don't want.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
To do it again.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That is the exact issue that Leon Edwards said he
had when he was fighting Blomhamed for his belt.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Fighting at that time.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So even that guys hearing illly, you say that I
don't want to have these guys all fighting at four
o'clock in the morning. So even though I have this
stream of fighting in Spain, I would almost go away
from that because I don't want to put myself through
it and I don't want to put the other fighters
through it. That right there gets you to support to
(08:36):
the locker room. And you really do want to support
the locker room in this state. You want to be
respected and admired by your peers more than anyone. As
much as we love the adulation from the fans, there's
nothing more than to have the respect of your friends,
your family, your peers, the people in the locker. We
(09:00):
always talk about the man in the arena. We always
talk about the man in the arena. The man in
the arena loves the respect of the other man that
has to stand in that arena. To be judged by
someone that never went through what you did, it's very difficult.
It's hard to truly take seriously. So to get that
(09:23):
respect of your peers is very important. That's why having
respect amongst the fighters what's so important to me into
so many others Eliot to Pooria seems to be making
the moves as a headliner that will protect his respect
that he has with his peers.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But it's not.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I'm not afraid of him, and neither is any of
these other guys.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
What ultimately will happen, though, is dollars make sense.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I feel that the dollars are with to pour You you, Louise,
tell me how many Instagram follow us to Pooria has
right now, because very few fighters have so many. Mahachev
has ten million, now he's a star.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
To Pouri has. Luis is gonna throw it in.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
The chat here in the second and I'll tell you
ta Pori has seven million Instagram followers. When if we
ever had a fight between two MMA fighters who have
a combined seventeen million followers on Instagram, we don't. Dollars
makes sense, and ultimately, when it makes sense to both parties,
(10:31):
I believe it'll happen. And if Tapoori has to go
through someone before, it's only gonna help his uh what
he's gonna be to this division. Perera has six point
eight and we know how biggest start to Perreira is.
Imagine if the Poori could continue to win at the
rate that he had seven million Instagram followers and ten
(10:52):
for Mahatchev, probably ten and a half at this point
because he's got ten a couple of weeks ago. It's
truly amazing what these athletes are becoming to the world.
And we have a new one that's capturing their imaginations
right now in Iliot to Poria. He's the belt of
the ball man. Everybody wants to go with the pretty
girl to the prom. Let's see who gets her hand,
(11:15):
Let's see who gets to give the curssage and get
to fight with Iliot to poor you in this first
Frida at lightweight. It's interesting, it's intriguing, and I'm so
happy that I'm gonna be next to you Aftergon when
it happens, because i have the best job in the
world and I'm one of the luckiest people because I
get to call these fighters. So, guys, thanks again for
watching this until next time. Like subscribe and tell you
(11:38):
friends out of a YouTube channel and I'm dropping videos
like this constantly. Hey, y'all about to hit you with
a lot coming up because the channel's growing and a
lot of people have gained interest in being a part
of Team DCTV. So we're gonna start rocking and rolling
and rocking and rolling, and we'll keep up in the
production to keep making it bigger and better. And I
will see all of you, hey, I'll see all of
(11:59):
you in Miami, and then i'll see all of you
at WrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
More news coming on that very soon.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Til next time, guys, Peace,
The volume. All right, So I'm in Mexico City, and
I kind of wish I had something better as a backdrop,
because it's just a white wall. Makes me feel like
I'm in like tension home or something like when the
(00:22):
kid gets in trouble, they go.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
To detention center. So I'm locked out here in Mexico City.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But of course I could never be too far from you,
So I'm trying to get in on this guy. Iliot
to poor You, Hey, Iliots are poor You has been
something else ever since the moment he announced that he
was going up to one point fifty five. Clearly, because
he's such a big star, people will start to talk
about him. But ultimately it was a lot of people
(00:49):
talking before and he didn't have much to say. But lately,
Iliot Topooria has had a lot to say. Iliot to
Pouria is phenomenal. Let's call it what it is. He's
a great fighter, he's undefeated, he's a world champion. He
knocks people out. He really has become a true star
in the UFC and for the UFC. So there's a
lot of excitement that surrounds the things that Illiot to
(01:11):
Pooria does. It was is he gonna fight for the
belt right away. Will Islam fight him?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
He said? Islam said no, will be Charles Olivera. Charles
Olivera said no.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But just just the thing or the point to me
to make in this is that all the conversations include
Iliot to Pouria.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It ain't new weight class, right.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We aren't talking about a guy that's been at one
fifty five the whole time. Hell, I don't know that
he's ever fought that one fifty five. Maybe early in
his career when he was just bringing the weight down,
but in the UFC, he's always been at forty five.
But the important thing is all the conversations surround Iliot
to Pouria right now. Ilias said that he wants a
(01:59):
title fight, point blank. He said that he's focusing all
of his training, and I'll read the quote, all of
my training is focused on Islam or Charles because I
don't see any other opponents. Neither of them seem to
dare to fight me. These are symptoms of fear.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We all know that. But it's normal. I'd be scared too. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Honestly, this is kind of like something that this is
a quote that the Foiders say that sound much cooler,
because if I was to say that, I'd be like, well,
I've only wanted to fight the champions, but they are
scared of me, so that's why, And it wouldn't sound
as cool as like a Spanish Georgian guy Iliotorporian.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Essentially, he's just saying that these.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Guys are scared, but these are symptoms of fear, Like I,
come on, man, you know, come on, iliot to Pooria
is a cool guy. But I kind of disagree. Well,
I know for sure Islama Achev is not afreidom. I'll
tell you this as a person that's a friend of Islam,
a person that's known Islam for years and years, he's
not afraid of them. So while iliot to Pooria may
(03:03):
strike some fear in most are some, it's some's not
afraid of them. Not to say, I'll be honest with you, like,
neither is Justin Gaechee, neither is Charles Olavera, Neither is
Dustin Pourier or Michael Chandler. Those guys aren't afraid of
each other. They're fighters, and when you're a fighter, fear
is kind of the last thing that crosses your mind
(03:24):
in regards to another fighter, especially if all you have
to do is fight him. Nah, do you get a
little bit concerned at times that somebody.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Might shoot you? Of course, it's not a street fight.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You go into an octagon with rules that you're gonna fight,
So fear.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Is the last thing that these guys.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Think when thinking of an opponent, So they're not afraid
of Ilia. I think some of the issues are for
Islam and for Charles is Like Islam wants to fight
someone that's not had been at one forty five, Charles
wants a title fight. There are so many people that
(04:03):
seem to have a clear idea of what their direction is.
That that's why I think they don't want to fight Ilia.
But ultimately, to fight Ilia is to be in the
biggest fight that the weight class can give you. Right now,
because watching this, watching out all this has worked out.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
From the outside, I see now or.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I can respect the type of cache that he has.
He's not just another fighter. Iliot to Pouria carries some
weight with him. And I believe that of all those
guys because we've seen it before. We've seen Serooki in Islam,
We've seen Charles Islam, We've seen Charles, Dustin, Charles, everybody.
(04:44):
We haven't seen Ilia versus those guys, and I believe
because of what he is and who he is, those
fight have the ability to sell. Because when Alex Perera lost,
everybody was saying the biggest winner was tom aspinall because
it took it took the Alsburg John Jones fight off
(05:05):
the table, almost forcing John Jones it to fight in
tom Aspunaut guys. I gotta disagree a little bit. I
think the biggest beneficiary of that was Iliot to Pouria
because I feel, especially watching the way people are responding
and reacting to them, he has that ability to ascend
(05:25):
to one of the biggest stars in the UFC.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Very few people can bring a fight to a country
and sell it out.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Ilia is one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
If they were to go to Spain, they could sell
out to burn a Bell, which is crazy. That's a
huge stadium where Real Madrid plays. I feel confident that
if he was to fight there, he could sell that out.
I'll get into why he won't in a little bit,
but I think that type of star, and I think
(06:02):
the reaction and reception that he's gotten since moving up
has pointed to that, and honestly, I believe it's rooted
in respect because so many athletes, myself included, when.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You go up, you keep the belt.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You want that security, you want that blanket of comfort
to say, if it goes sideways, I still got my
other belt. He said, No, I'm not doing that. I'm
just going up. I'm gonna go and fight at one
fifty five. I'm staying there. Let these other guys get
a chance to become champion. Will that work out in
the long line, I don't know. But he carries this
area of invincibility about him right now and that is
(06:38):
what is allowing him to make these types of decisions.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So, yeah, it's big news.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's a big deal, and this kid seems to be
doing the right things. Sadly, we don't have any idea
what he's doing next. We have no idea what he's
doing next. Charles City wants the tighter shot. I think
Arman Serruki I needs a fight. That would be great.
I think it'd be amazing fight. I just don't know
that those guys are gonna.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Be fighting each other.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Because Armand was a guy that was getting a title fight,
and now he has to fight again. So it's like
a lot of stuff that we talked about in a
couple weeks ago, but all of them seemed to involve
El Mattador, which is not his nickname anymore. I can't
even say what his new nickname is. But they all
seem to involve iliots. To poor you guys, I was
talking about him saying or his ability to sell out
(07:29):
the burna bell.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Aliot said He's unwilling to do that. He said that,
and this is the quote.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's because of the agreement with the UFC in ESPN,
the scheduling issue, because if they bring a numbered event
to Spain, it would have to be at four or
five am to be primetime in the United States. So
I don't see it as a very feasible to have
everyone on their feet at four or five am, he
said during a press conference. He said, even as an athlete,
(07:55):
I don't see myself competing at that time. I did
it once in Abu Dhabi. We have to fight at
such a crazy time and I don't want.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
To do it again.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That is the exact issue that Leon Edwards said he
had when he was fighting Blomhamed for his belt.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Fighting at that time.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So even that guys hearing illly, you say that I
don't want to have these guys all fighting at four
o'clock in the morning. So even though I have this
stream of fighting in Spain, I would almost go away
from that because I don't want to put myself through
it and I don't want to put the other fighters
through it. That right there gets you to support to
(08:36):
the locker room. And you really do want to support
the locker room in this state. You want to be
respected and admired by your peers more than anyone. As
much as we love the adulation from the fans, there's
nothing more than to have the respect of your friends,
your family, your peers, the people in the locker. We
(09:00):
always talk about the man in the arena. We always
talk about the man in the arena. The man in
the arena loves the respect of the other man that
has to stand in that arena. To be judged by
someone that never went through what you did, it's very difficult.
It's hard to truly take seriously. So to get that
(09:23):
respect of your peers is very important. That's why having
respect amongst the fighters what's so important to me into
so many others Eliot to Pooria seems to be making
the moves as a headliner that will protect his respect
that he has with his peers.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But it's not.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I'm not afraid of him, and neither is any of
these other guys.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
What ultimately will happen, though, is dollars make sense.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I feel that the dollars are with to pour You you, Louise,
tell me how many Instagram follow us to Pooria has
right now, because very few fighters have so many. Mahachev
has ten million, now he's a star.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
To Pouri has. Luis is gonna throw it in.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
The chat here in the second and I'll tell you
ta Pori has seven million Instagram followers. When if we
ever had a fight between two MMA fighters who have
a combined seventeen million followers on Instagram, we don't. Dollars
makes sense, and ultimately, when it makes sense to both parties,
(10:31):
I believe it'll happen. And if Tapoori has to go
through someone before, it's only gonna help his uh what
he's gonna be to this division. Perera has six point
eight and we know how biggest start to Perreira is.
Imagine if the Poori could continue to win at the
rate that he had seven million Instagram followers and ten
(10:52):
for Mahatchev, probably ten and a half at this point
because he's got ten a couple of weeks ago. It's
truly amazing what these athletes are becoming to the world.
And we have a new one that's capturing their imaginations
right now in Iliot to Poria. He's the belt of
the ball man. Everybody wants to go with the pretty
girl to the prom. Let's see who gets her hand,
(11:15):
Let's see who gets to give the curssage and get
to fight with Iliot to poor you in this first
Frida at lightweight. It's interesting, it's intriguing, and I'm so
happy that I'm gonna be next to you Aftergon when
it happens, because i have the best job in the
world and I'm one of the luckiest people because I
get to call these fighters. So, guys, thanks again for
watching this until next time. Like subscribe and tell you
(11:38):
friends out of a YouTube channel and I'm dropping videos
like this constantly. Hey, y'all about to hit you with
a lot coming up because the channel's growing and a
lot of people have gained interest in being a part
of Team DCTV. So we're gonna start rocking and rolling
and rocking and rolling, and we'll keep up in the
production to keep making it bigger and better. And I
will see all of you, hey, I'll see all of
(11:59):
you in Miami, and then i'll see all of you
at WrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
More news coming on that very soon.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Til next time, guys, Peace,
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