March 31, 2025 • 42 mins
Colin tells you why he was right about the Cowboys and wrong about Duke.
Plus, 3-time Pro Bowler Matt Hasselbeck joins the show to discuss Shedeur Sanders as a pro prospect after a productive season at Colorado
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome in live. It's the Hurt wherever you may be,
however you may be listening. Kelvin Samson, great coach of
the Houston Cougars, is going to be joining us in
one hour from now. That team is That team is
a handful, and they've had a road Gonzaga PERDW. They
have had a road. Tennessee got spanked. That game was
not competitive, and Tennessee, by the way, didn't do a
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lot once they fell down. They didn't have like a
second gear. Not a lot of college basketball team shoot well.
So if you get no Ale, Michigan State can be
a little bit of trouble. I think it's been a
fun tournament. I cannot wait for Duke in Houston, cannot wait,
cannot wait.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
For you to give us a bracket update. Now that's
what I'm very excited about.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Tom anything over there, No, no, nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Because I got a little chalky with it, as the
kids like to say, And uh, you know what do
we We got four number one seeds, but they're the
best teams by so far.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's not even close. Feels like it. Here we go
Colin right, Colin wrong on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Two SEC teams in the final four, four in the
final eight.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's not close.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Outside of Duke, nobody in the ACC really did much
the ACC, I mean the SEC, the athletes, the lane.
I picked Auburn as my number one, Florida maybe the
best team. It's just a deeper, better conference. We've been
saying this since early January on this show. Are you
watching SEC basketball? Because it looks like the ACC about
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six years ago? And here's Bruce Pearl, Auburn coach, on
the conference.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Everybody in the SEC has invested.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
It just means more.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
And I said this at the beginning of the season.
The team's at.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The autom of our league are investing very similarly to
the teams in the middle, in the top of the league.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
There's just not that much difference. There isn't.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Where Colin was roughed I started thinking too much. I
did not have Duke in the final four because three
freshmen play over twenty minutes, and I thought they were
too young.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Well, they're all so great.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
They're favored by four and a half over a great
Houston team. Their average winning margin this is much like
Yukon last year. They're winning by twenty three points a game.
So they've got athleticism, coaching, length, depth, and the best
player easily in.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Cooper Flat where Colin was right, Well.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I said the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And this is without Freeman, Freddy Freeman and Mookie Bets
being one hundred percent and without Otani pitching. Yet I
think this is the best roster I've ever seen. And
according to Baseball Stats, the Dodgers are the first team
in baseball history to go five to zero with thirty
plus runs scored, twenty plus walks drawn, ten plus home runs,
fifty five strikes, and zero errors committed. They do not
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have a hole. It is a virtual all star team.
And again, depth of talent, pitching, bullpen, it's like nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I've ever seen. Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
You know, I thought the.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yankees would pull back a little without Garrett Cole who
knew they would revolutionize the torpedo bat. They have fifteen
home runs in three games. It's Babe Ruth on HGH,
Babe Ruth multiplied and for the record, Aaron Judges are
using them. But they have legally. The dimensions of the
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bat haven't changed. The length hasn't changed, the weight hasn't changed.
They've just redistributed the bulk of the bat toward the
label for a couple of batters and it is working.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Wonders where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I've said this cowboy team is top heavy and in
trouble in Steven Jones admitted this week and that yeah,
free agency got a little more expensive than we could afford.
And again in February, I was quoted saying, this is
the big brand in the country that is reeling and
reeling fast, and they went cheap on a head coach.
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They've slowly been dying for a couple of years. I
know the twelve win thing, but if they pay Micah,
that'll be Micah Deck and Ceedee Lamb have produced one
playoff win and that was over that sub five hundred Tampa.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Team where Colin was real a.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Minute I started supporting John Calipari. He blew a sixteen
point lead and lost in the tournament the minute I
put my arms around him. It is hard to blow
a big lead late in college basketball simply because there
are not a lot of potent offenses in the sport.
And Arkansas got outscored twenty seven to eleven down the stretch.
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They probably should have called a time out to slow
it down. They didn't, and the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I said, Aaron Rodgers has all the leverage the Steelers.
He should take his dear sweet time, and he is.
Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf had a throwing session at UCLA,
and Aaron's telling you maybe I'll take it, maybe I won't.
I'm leaning toward he's gonna take it now. But this
is what I said, if you don't have urgency with
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a quarterback position, this is what happened to Washington with
Sam Hallan, It's what's happened with Mike Tomlin and the Steelers.
They just don't take quarterback and offense seriously enough. Where
Colin was raw, I hated this story. That receiver who
I loved at Arizona t mac with quoted as saying
this weekend. I'm not a big fan of watching film.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I don't watch football. That's not what you want to say.
That's that's got Johnny Manziel vibes all over it, bro,
the great Ones, the Larry Fitzgerald's, the Jerry Rice, it's
you got a care, it's prep. It's not just hanging
out with your receiver group. If you want to separate
in any position. This is a sport where cognitive function
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and commitment is really big. I love this kid out
of college, but this is a I mean, this is
a If I need a receiver, I may wait till
the next round kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Comment where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I've said wide receivers the convertible sports car of football.
It's fun, it's flashy, doesn't produce a lot of playoff wins.
Yreek Hill this weekend, once out of Miami, hinted at
multiple trades in multiple posts on x Kansas City has
been to three Super Bowl since he's left Miami has
produced zero playoff wins since he arrived.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I like him.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think he's a good player. I'd love to have
him on my team. But there is something about this
position that just creates personality plus and it This is
why I've said watch out with DK met kafin Pittsburgh.
I don't know what it is with the position, but
this is something that is way too common and a
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bit of a nuisance for Miami. Makes answer questions you
don't have to deal with Colin right, Colin?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Wrong with that? Matt Hasselback eighteen years in the NFL.
First of all, the Aaron.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Dk Metcalf workout at UCLA, I don't know, that feels
like something that I don't want to be like media
guy making it out to be a big deal, but
it kind of feels like something right.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah, Well, listen, that's the spot UCLA.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
I mean, even back when I was playing guys who'd
meet up in La either the Home Depot Center or
over at UCLA, they're very friendly with celebrities coming there
and working out. I mean, I think I've seen Justin
Bieber working out there on the track over there, running
the stairs.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
So that's not a big deal.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
What it does tell me, though, is that Aaron Rodgers
isn't really thinking about retiring, Like you don't go out
at his age and throw footballs with DK Metcalf in March,
if you're probably going to retire. So I don't know
that we have a lot of answers, but I think
that answer is pretty clear. This is a guy that's
training and getting ready to play this year.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, and Aaron has said multiple times he loves the game.
It brings him a lot of joy. And if you've
been good at this sport, as you well know, oh,
guys want to play it. It pays well, it's fun
and Pittsburgh's got some dudes. Okay, So I've heard a
lot about this Shadoor Sanders, and I keep saying, here's
all I know about Shador Sanders. Okay, I'm not a
scout bat old line running for his life. No run game,
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seventy four percent completion percentage. That is something that's like,
not just a sixty eight seventy fours a lot. I
don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
He's a Lamar. I don't think he's Mahomes. I don't know.
I know he didn't win a lot of games. That's
not the end of it. Matt. Did Matt Ryan win
a lot of games in college?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Hey, I take offense to that because he went to
Boston College. But my dad went to Colorado. So I'll
defend Shador. Listen, the seventy four percent completion or whatever,
it was a really high completion percentage. That doesn't mean
all that much to me because he's not a guy
that threw a lot of balls away, and as a
play caller, when you don't trust your offensive line, you're
getting the ball out of your hands quick also with
some screen games, so that's not really what I'm looking
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I think he's got all the tools. I'm sure some
scouts are saying, hey, he's only six one and a half,
he's like two hundred and twelve pounds, Like, that's not
giving me. Justin Herbert, you know Tom Brady, the Manning
six foot five type guy vibes. So you're a little
bit of an outlier to get drafted in the top
five of the draft with his measurables. But he does
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have other intangibles that he brings to the table. I
do love his competitiveness. I think that there's a there's
a DNA or a cent in some teams.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Though, where they don't really love.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Some of the other stuff we've seen, some of the taunting,
not shaking hands, all the penalties, pushing a referee like
some of that kind of stuff I think might give
some people pause, But no, I think he's going to
have a successful career. At the same time, I think
he could drop a little bit on day one.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So you know Pete Carroll, well, I would argue Pete
is old school football.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
He likes a run game.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
When he had Marshawn Lynch and Reggie Bush and a
pass rush, he's done well. I think Ashton Genty and
I know everybody hates drafting running backs. If you go
the last six seven years, if you draft a running
back top twelve, they're all good. There's no misses late
first round where everything misses. That's different. I could see
Pete Carroll, you know him. You know Chip Kelly, I
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could see him saying, guys, that's gonna make us. We
got to have ball control to beat Mahomes and Herbert.
We're not doing it with Gino throwing forty times Raiders
and Genty. It works for me, what say you?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Yeah, it works for me too, And no doubt that
Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly they want to run the
ball and so it's very easy to get your mind
around like a Marshawn Lynch type running game. There in
Las Vegas at the same time. At the same time,
like we got to figure out what the league feels
about the Saquon effect. Like you said, a lot of
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people are saying, do we really need to draft your
running back that high?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And the answer was no.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
But then the Saquon effect happened, and now people are
looking at guys like Gent and they're saying, hey, that
could be our Saquon.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So that's a factor.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
However, much in the way that I said, not every
team loves the vibe of a shdar Sanders. If he
were to fall down to the Raiders around six, would
they go ahead and take him?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Because I think Pete Carroll loves that vibe.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Living on the edge of competitiveness, having a flare about you.
I think he loves that, and having him behind a
geno Smith early in his career. I mean, I could
see them taking the long view of it that way.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
That would not shock me either.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You know, well, I've talked about this before, is you
can win when you're top heavy. The Rams did with Ramsey,
Darnld Stafford Whitworth, where they had like four or five
guys making a ton of money. Then they have to
rebuild and it's really bad. Now, the Rams drafted so
well back to back drafts, and they have Stafford that
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they've kind of like not had much of a rebuild,
so you can go top heavy. I think the Niners did,
and then last year was like, Okay, we're really old,
expensive and brittle. I honestly think the play for Dallas
because you're already invested on the right side of to
me offense ceedee Lambdack.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I think.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Draft weekend gets emotional. I would move my Caparsons in
a week draft. I don't want to pay three players
five hundred seventy million. I just I can't do that.
Look at Philly's roster, Detroit roster, the Rams roster, the
Ravens roster. Cowboys need seven players. They don't need a
really great pass rusher. Am I nuts?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I mean, they got to do something. I mean, I
don't know what the solution is there. They've spent too
much money on one side of the ball to have
the results that they've had so far. I don't know
if I'm building a team though, I need my guy
on the offensive side of the ball, and I need
my guy on the defensive side of the ball. Mike
Congrind would talk about this all the time. Back when
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they were in San fran with Bill Walsh, they had
Joe Montana and they had Ronnie Lott. Like in Green
Bay they had Brett fav and they had Reggie Waight.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
To me, Michaeh.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Parsons is as good as it gets at the position.
I can't see a scenario where I'm getting rid of him.
I really can't. However, you make some good points. They
have a lot of issues, and their division has gotten
a lot better than they are, you know, in terms
of what Philly is and what Washington's about to come
about to become. So Dallas they kind of need a miracle.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I want to wrap with this. I had a GM
once tell me. He said, I don't want thirteen draft picks.
He goes, cause if eight of them hit, we're going
to be super young. And most players, outside of a
corner or a running back take like a year to
figure it out. Tight ends take a year to figure
out blocking. A lot of receivers are raw. And he said,
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I'd rather have like a player and seven picks than
twelve picks. And I look at New England, all new
free agents they're going to have, all new draft picks.
Forty percent of this roster could be new, and Drake
May's a kid in your NFL experience? Can you be
too new? Can you have too many young niners? Have
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twelve draft picks?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
What a nine hit? How do you fall on that?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Listen, look at the contract of the head coach when
you want the answer to that question. If a guy's
in the first year of his deal, he can do that.
He can say, hey, I'm taking a long view of
this thing. Not a problem. And then the flip side,
look at a guy like John Harbaugh and Baltimore just
did a deal. It's win now. I don't even know
if they need a draft pick like that. They've got
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a great team as is, So yeah, Vrabel, Are they
trying to win? Yes, they're trying to build something special.
They're trying to build a house. But this is a
foundational year for them. That's you know, they got to
get everything around Drake may Wright so that he can
be they what they hope he can.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Be, and we all know what that is.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
In Foxborough, they're trying to hoist Lombardes and nothing short
of that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
By the way, can you convince j mack so I
keep telling j Mack. What a fun time I have
in Chicago. I was there this weekend. Why don't you
tell him if you had a nice weekend in Chicago.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Hey, lou slip sink ships Colin.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I had too good of a time. Uh, in Chicago.
That's a that's a great city.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
In fact, they think they're still celebrating Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I don't know how that's true.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
They were celebrating that like two weeks before, and now
here we are like almost April and they're still celebrating.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Matt Hassel. But great seeing you, Maddie.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Always see guys.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, he had a family get together in Chicago, and
they could have vict a lot of places, and they
went to Chicago.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
It was a good time. I had a good I
was in the Burbs and had a good time. It's
quite a city. Ryan was there this week Was there
no snow?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Right?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
No, it's like.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Forty eight degrees fifty three ball me forty eight? Yeah, yes,
I think it's sixty today. Is it today or tomorrow
at sixty?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I love to hear that. I've got to go to
a cold weather locale very soon. I'm not throwing where
where where I can't talk about her on here.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
What confidential information, my friend, Well, you're going to Philly.
That's confidential or something. Why would I go to Philly
for hot.
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Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like really good sports all weekend long. Yankees are revolutionizing
baseball with their torpedo bat. The Dodgers basically are setting
records and everybody's complaining about it. There is this group
of sports fans out there, and I've always felt small
towns dominate high school football. Odessa, Texas has a better
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high school football program than anybody in LA or New.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
York or Chicago.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And then mid size markets dominate college football and college basketball.
Raleigh and Arbor, Austin, Texas, Columbus, Ohio, and the Big
Cities is for pro sports. Now, that doesn't mean you
can't find a great high school basketball program in Dallas
or Houston. I'm not saying that, but generally small towns
dominate high school sports. If you go look at dynasties,
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it's a lot of small towns or suburbs, and mid
size markets dominate, you know, Hartford, Connecticut stores, Connecticut College Basketball, Raleigh,
and then the big cities, your Phillies, your you know,
your LA's and your San Francisco's, and you know Houston's.
They dominate pro sports Atlanta and it's all good. What
the problem being is these owners love expansion fees, so
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they keep adding teams and because owners then, oh it's
cost you eight hundred million dollars to add another team,
and they love that because that's split among owners. So
the truth is we got about six teams in every
one of these sports that probably shouldn't have a pro team.
I mean, Jacksonville, Florida is a college football market. Wonderful.
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People just sat next to one the other night at dinner. Wonderful.
It's a college football market, not a pro market. But
you know, the expansion fee. You look in the NBA,
there's you could take four teams out of every league
in America and we'd be better off. So when you
see the Yankees and the Dodgers dominating. There are people
that have financial, commerce, geographical advantages and that's just the
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way it is. And by the way, it's the same
thing in college sports, where it's an advantage being Georgia
they care about college football. Chicago doesn't really I mean
New York, Philadelphia, Boston do they really care. So, you know,
I've never had a problem with you know, the way
it's set up in America where big cities have more money.
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The Yankees have, you know, more money than Baltimore. All Right,
it's an advantage. That doesn't mean like in the NFL,
both New York teams are a hot mess. It doesn't
mean it guarantees success. But if you do have the
right owner and the right general manager, like in Philadelphia
or LA with the Rams, it is an advantage. It's
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an advantage over Green Bay. It is j Mack with
the News.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Speaking of advantages.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
The Jets have justed Field.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's a big edge over Aaron Rodgers. Jets gave him
a two year deal and he's going to be their starter.
Fields is on his third team in five seasons, actually
third team and three seasons after Bears, Steelers now Jets.
Here's Aaron Glenn talking about the third time being a charmer.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
QUI confidence you go back and watch him out of
house state, big arm understands how to run an offense
when give an opportunity. I's want to let him play quarterback.
I mean, that's what he's always wanted to do. And listen,
I'm not saying that he hasn't had a chance to
play it. Do that in other places, and you know
that's not my issue. But I know what I want
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to do with that player, and obviously want to utilize
his legs, but I also want to give him a
chance to go out there and play quarterback.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
He'll get a second chance.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Donald got one, Well, the third I'm gonna be positive here.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
You ready, Donald.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Got a third, Baker got a third time. There's no
reason justin Field's can't get a third.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
So if you're looking for something positive, justin Field's completion
percentage has gone up every year he's been in the league.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I remember he's moving around teams offensive coordinators.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
And he also has had some defensive situations that are
not ideal. Bears and Steelers are totally defensive organizations, and.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
His quarterback rating has also increased every single year. Again,
he's not throwing as many passes last year as he
did the first few years, but there is signs of
progress now. How he meshes with the new OC no
do what happens with him here will?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Everybody likes him. He's got a good arm and he
moves well. And Sam Darnold did not click until Minnesota,
and Baker didn't really truthfully really click like Tampa was like, Oh,
Baker's really good, but.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Some are with stud guy like Liam Cohen was excellent.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, again, here's where I would defend Justin Fields. I
do not think like a Baker at Donald. He is
gifted enough to overcome the wrong culture or the staff.
And I think the Bears offensively and the Steelers offensively.
Now unfortunately the Jets are going to be a defensive culture.
If this kid would have gone to Sean McVeigh, there's
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no doubt in my mind you'd get the best version
of him. Now, what is the best version of him?
Is it Sam Donald last year? I don't think it is.
Is it Baker in Tampa? I don't quite think it is.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
But it could be. Could be. Yeah, So he does.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
He's not a kid. Like everybody I know that's talked
to him. Everybody likes it. Everybody likes Donald, people like
Baker like that. Part of it is players when when
Tomlin bailed on him last year, that was a little
bit of a warning sign because they were four and two.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Well, but the players loved him, remember they really like
everybody liked him. Yah.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah, the fields is good. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
The more you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Talk about fields here just now, I'm starting to be like, okay,
do we have something in a new do we need
to raise the expectations? Win totals are starting to emerge?
Oh ya, le jets, I don't We don't have them yet. No, no,
I just saw him this weekend. I can't believe I
didn't bring him. I'll bring him in tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Oh I Okay, maybe I'm not on the right now.
I am a big seller on Dallas.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Dallas has way tell me, okay, if I recall, it
was like eight and a half and I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no,
Dallas under uh there was an over the oh Chargers
over Dallas under those are the two that I remember.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Okay, all right, Well, looking forward to that. Let's get
to Dion Sanders.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Colin.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
He talked about how he would handle Shador's process last year.
You remember this, saying there were certain cities where he
wouldn't play.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
It's going to be an Eli. He was like.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Almost sending messages threatening folks. Well, Dion sounds like he's
changed his tune and he's gonna be happy wherever shaduur
lands and won't try to get him to a preferred destination.
And I'm sure you saw over the weekend Dion got
a new deal to stay in Boulder five years fifty.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
You know, Nil, I've got to be honest with Dean Sanders.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I remember the first weekend he got the job, and
my first thought was cowboy Dion and in like pot.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Central, there's no way.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And then I thought about it over the weekend, I thought,
we know what college football is about, getting attention and recruiting.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
My bad, He'll do okay. I am surprised.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I thought this was a little bit of an airport
for him land stay there briefly, get on the next light,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
To his credit, I think he really likes it. I
think he likes college kids. I think he's created a culture.
It's kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Do you think he's saying this, Hey, wherever he goes,
I'm going to be happy for him. Do you think
that's because he secretly knows already he's going to Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I think he's a dad and he's fired up for him.
And it's the last thing you want to do is
if your kid goes somewhere and you complain about it
and all of a sudden, the kids got stuff in
his I think you should just let him go where
he goes.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
It's pro sports.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
If you're if you're good enough to make it, and
I think Shadoor's got some talent here, then you'll make it.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Final story, Colin, not great news.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Kevin Durant turned an ankle badly last night. You see
it there, just totally Ben's couldn't put any pressure on it.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Not good.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I don't know how he wears low tops twenty hoops
kind of stepped on the ankle there. I think that's
one of the Thompson twins. Key not good left. He's
getting an MRI today, will not travel with the team tomorrow.
Big three game road trip for the Suns. They are
trying to get into the play in I don't think
it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Well, you to raise some speculations. May have been his
final game with the Suns. Look, you can't even walk. Yeah,
it probably is because we know he's going to be
elsewhere this offseason.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
He's gott at Houston. You think the Knicks are in play.
I'm sure some people are going to be speculating Boston.
Who knows, but kind of a.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Just he's got a market and you got to bake
in some injuries. He's always it's his stinks. You know,
he's thirty seven, he's hurt.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Now we have Dane down with the blood clot, we
got Kevin Durant down.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Probably not gonna make the playoffs. You're looking at Devin
Booker not in.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
The ploffs, Joel Embiid, Paul George, all these stars.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Just mistinks we were been moaning Joe Burrow not making
the playoffs. It's interesting think about this.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
In football, bigger, stronger men tackle each other, and when
you get to the end of the season, the really
good teams are all almost all healthy. I mean, Kansas
City was missing an offensive lineman the two Super Bowls.
Kansas City has been hammered. They just missed a left tackle.
They've had some O line issues, but the by and large,
the Rams were healthy at the end of the year,
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and the Eagles were healthy at the end of the year,
and the Lions were.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Remote Sneers were most definitely.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I mean, everybody loses one really good player generally over
the course of an NFL season.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You're gonna lose one of your big your big stars.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But it's funny how the NBA we we don't think
of contact and physicality. A lot of dudes, I mean,
they're finely tuned athletes. A lot of dudes get hurt.
Do you start ticking off the names? You're like, man,
there's a lot of guys out.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by the herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
So why'd you get all worn out this weekend? What
did you do?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You know, my daughter's in sixth grade. She's pretty good
at basketball. She has some friends who are good. We
put together like an all star team and just entered
a tournament. We had one practice together and we won
the tournament.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yesterday.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It was amazing free throw with one second left to
break the tie. Colin I will just say this to
all the dad's watching. You got to coach your kids.
It is the most fun thing I've ever done. I'm
not even kidding. I've done some fun things in my life,
spring break in college. I'm just saying, coaching your kids
the reward seeing them go crazy. The parents, it's awesome
because there's only a fine eye window. You know, your
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kids are now grown up, right, You don't hang with them,
You barely see them.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Well, my daughter I talked to every day, Oh every day.
I talk to my kids a lot. Thank God for
FaceTime facetimes. I remember, I remember the moment I knew
FaceTime was revolutionary. My daughter was in Cape Town, South Africa,
at a leadership conference.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
I sent her down there.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
She had a it was amazing conference and camp conference.
And I was in Manhattan Beach and she calls me
from her room in Cape Town and it's clear as
a bell, without much of a delay. And I'm on
the beach in California, and I'm like, this is great
for parents. Yeah, you could talk to your kid. I mean,
last night I'm talking to my daughter. She just you know,
moved to a place.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
The only drawback of this tournament was I start coaching
the game with another dad. Texas chech is up seven
on Florida with like three minutes left. I'm like, oh
my gosh, great for my bracket.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
After the game, I asked the rests, hey, who won
to get in? They're like Florida. I was like, what
that comeback?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I had to watch it, Colin, did you see the
strategy from Florida fouling down seven with like three minutes
left to put bad free throw shooters on the lip.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
That's genius stuff. It worked, And then Walter Clayton.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Florida is not as good as everybody told me. Duke
is better than I thought. Houston is what I thought.
Duke is better than I thought. Florida's not quite as
great as everybody told me. I like Auburn to win it.
I still think, whoh no, I think Auburn Old Yeah
I do, and be okay.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well that's the key. If he's okay, he's a tough kid.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
He is a he's another great story stated he started
small college, moved his way up. He's what is he
twenty three years old? Now he's an awesome player. You're like,
how is he not a pro? He's got to be
a pro.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Right, Well, some guys, some guys remember One Dixon at Maryland.
Some guys like they're just great college players and then
they get to the pros and they're tweeners and they
just you know, it's he.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Had his moment. One Dixon did it mary He's a legend.
You'll never pay for a drink in college park. And
by the way, a bit of a tweener in the
NBA and it didn't work.
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Speaker 1 (29:42):
I don't think we're being hyperbolic to say Cooper Flag
just doesn't happen anymore. Where you get an eighteen year
old American player that is internationally skilled, International, the whole
system in international is so much better than AAU basketball.
AAU basketball is all about getting your and you know,
the swag and the too many games played, and it
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doesn't really develop players. So they get you know, they
get pampered and babied, and they get to the NBA
and they're just not skilled or mature enough. Cooper Flag
has the maturity and the skill level of somebody from
Lithuania that's been playing against guys that are six years older,
like Luca. Luca walked into the league, Wemby walks into
the league, Jokic walks in and very quickly You're like,
these guys are just way more skilled, a lot less pampering,
(30:28):
a lot more skill and maturity, and we just don't
have a lot of this in the American basketball culture.
And I thought what was really impressive is he was
all offense against Arizona.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
He was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And then against Alabama, you know they're double and they're
putting pressure on him. He goes to the glass, he
defends and he plays off ball, but he just what
you're seeing with this, it's not just a duke thing.
It's this kid should be in high school. He should
be a high school player, and he sounds like a pro.
Here's Cooper Flag.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
It's kind of something that I've said a lot through
this whole year, so that we just have such a
talented team. Each night could be somebody else's night. I
think tonight Con kind of stepped up and you know,
had the ball a lot.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
We ran a lot of actions for him.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Tyrus was huge for us.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
I mean, I think it's just having so many talented
guys on the team. It's not gonna be your night
every night, and it just don't hang your head. Just
keep playing hard. Somebody talk about just winning the ninety
eight percent and doing all the little things. So just
not letting the shots affect anything else you do and
just knowing that the rest of the guys going in
my back and are gonna make those plays.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
If you look at most of the failures in the
NBA from our domestic programs, it's not a talent thing.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
They're just not mature enough.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
They can't handle their weight, they can't handle the situation.
I mean the Memphis situation. Now, John Morant shoots so
poorly at three pointers, like he he just his game
hasn't developed.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
It just hasn't developed. I mean, forget the gun stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You know, young guys come in their immature but like
his game hasn't developed. Now, the coach, they got rid
of the coach and they brought in a bunch of
new people on the staff, and Memphis a mess. Like
it's their talented But if you look at most of
the domestic players who aren't as good as we thought,
it's not that they lack talent.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
And that's why.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Like when you get a Draymond Green who comes into
the league and he's been at Michigan State multiple years,
it's such an advantage, such an advantage two or three
years of college. But I Cooper Flagg is that dude
is rare. You just watch him. That is ready, is
ready to drop twenty a night in the NBA. The
other story today is that Micah Parsons and his agent
want two hundred million dollars. Now I have said this,
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I would trade him on draft weekend. Draft weekend in
the NFL is like married guys going to Vegas. Like
you're capable of really poor judgment. I'm not saying you'll
do something with poor judgment, but you're capable of it,
and you'll get patient. Executives on draft weekend get impatient.
Stoic gms in the NFL will get emotional. So I mean,
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you look at the Eagles and Lions rosters and increasingly
the Rams. The Cowboys aren't close. I mean, if you
pay Micah two hundred million, you'll be paying Micah more
than the entire Rams defense, and the Rams are still
two years from paying anybody. So I think sometimes in
business you have to leverage these very, very emotional moments.
(33:24):
We have a bad draft, and again this is the
way the NFL works. As a coach, you get two years,
that's it. As a quarterback you get sometimes less than
two years before the guy upstairs who's now a billionaire
loses patience. And Dallas has gotten you know, Jerry Jones
(33:44):
has gone from Maverick to melt cooast. He'd you know,
extending Dak getting cheap on a coach, Mike McCarthy. They're
not taking big swings on stuff. And Philadelphia is and
Detroit is, and the Rams are and the Niners are
and the Cowboys aren't. And you go back to the
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Jimmy Jones ere they did. They took big swings and
so you know, I to me, Micah Parsons, you're gonna
get a first round pick. So Cowboys would have two
first round picks. You'll probably get a first and a third.
Now you got to hit on those draft picks. I
like him as a player. He's not Miles Garrett, he's
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not Von Miller in his prime. He's not Aaron Donald.
I don't think he's TJ.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I don't think he's Aiden Hutchison. I don't think he's
as talented as Jared Verse. I think he's a really,
really good a edge rusher. But I would have no
problem if I got a couple of draft picks. Spend
your money on the right side of the ball. It's
not that I don't like him. I can think two things.
I think he's really good, and I think he could
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get us another first round pick. Dallas has got to
figure out a way to not spend five hundred and
seventy six million on three players, because this roster needs
six dudes, not re signing one dude. Here's Matt Hasselbeck
on the Cowboys issues with Micah.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
They've spent too much money on one side of the
ball to have the results that they've had so far.
I don't know if I'm building a team though. I
need my guy on the offensive side of the ball,
and I need my guy on the defensive side of
the ball. Micah Parsons is as good as it gets
at the position. I can't see a scenario where I'm
getting rid of him.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I really can't. However, you make some good points.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
They have a lot of issues and their division has
gotten a lot better than they are, you know, in
terms of what Philly is and what Washington's about to
come about to become.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
So Dallas they kind of need a miracle.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
So the draft now is three weeks out, Jay Mack,
it's one of our favorite times of the year, March
madness into the draft. You know, I've seen all these
draft boards. It looks like gent the running back who
we thought was top two then he dropped.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
I think what's funny.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Is is, you know I talked to an executive last
week about this stuff, is that players get hot. There's
a linebacker for Alabama now which everybody is in love with,
maygo top twelve third. People really like him. The receiver
for Arizona people are out on now.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I was going to ask you about that video. But
let me go back to Michah Parsons real quick. If
you're another team, are you giving up a first round
pick and then paying Micah Parsons?
Speaker 4 (36:27):
What what is it? Two hundred million dollars are you
doing that? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
It depends on the team. So let's say I'm a
very good team I'll just throw Washington out.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I got a rookie running quarterback deal, and I'm giving
up a first round pick in a bad draft.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Well, Dallas probably isn't doing that in the division. No,
that's a good idea, a team with a rookie quarterback.
I mean Tennessee, right, they get cam Ward, we're on
the cheap. Let's get Michael Parsons and there. You know,
we'll look better when Michael Parson's on the team. Lagerius Snead,
who is terrible coming over from Kansas City. So you're right,
it has to be a team with a quarterback on
a rookie deal that would trade for Micah, which means
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he could be going to.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
A bad team.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, well Dallas last year was a bad, bad team.
You know, lost in all this Dallas stuff is right,
they went cheap on the coach, like lost in all
this stuff is And this is nothing against Brian Shott.
Number there is a consensus around the league that was
a miss. And by the way, Jimmy Haslam, the owner
of the Cleveland Browns, acknowledged this weekend it's over for DeShawn.
(37:28):
He said, we took a big swing and we missed.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
You don't say a swing and a miss on your
quarterback who's a Francise Bight, unless it's.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Over or you're drafting Shadeur Sanders at number two. I
thought that was interesting that the owner of the Brown said, yeah,
that Deshaun thing was a miss, and he's.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Basically admitting it was on him by saying we took
a swing and a miss, like he's the one saying
that as opposed to the GM. Everybody thinks he was
overruled to get Watson and that was a historical whiff.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
You know, how to make up for it is to
get shador.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I think this draft there's only two players in this
draft that look a little bit generational athletically, Abdull Car
abdul Car of the pass rusher Penn State and Travis Hunter.
Those guys are all time talent. In any draft, they'd
be top ten. They're great players. Yeah, I think gent
I think there's a growing belief that he's special. He
just doesn't look like other players. It's not a good
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receiver draft. It's not a great tackle draft. It's a
good tight end draft, very good tight end draft.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a great running back draft.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
There's some good safeties, but it's most of the safeties
are late first, second, third round guys. It's just it's
not I don't know how to explain it, but I
don't remember a draft with less buzz. Yeah, and I
think the only player in this draft that changes wins
is Cam Wore to Tennessee. That's probably right now. I
do think Genty Hasselbeck talked about this. I think the
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Raiders with a six pick, and that's where the oddsmakers
think he'll go. I think chip Kelly, Pete Carroll run game.
I think they take the running.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Back, no doubt that Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly they
want to run the ball.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
And so it's very easy.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
To get your mind around like a Marshawn Lynch type
running game there in Las Vegas. At the same time,
at the same time, like we got to figure out
what the league feels about the Saquon effect. Like you said,
a lot of people are saying, do we really need
to draft your running back that high? And the answer
was no. But then the Saquon effect happened, and now
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people are looking at guys like Genti and they're saying, hey,
that could be our Saquon.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
So almost everybody wants to trade. I mean, it's very few,
I actually think, and I'm not just saying this because
you're here. I think the Jets pick is one of
the more fascinating ones because my take is if they
get that tight end from Penn State, that's really interesting.
They'll have their running back, receiver, left tackle, and tight
end of the future. When's the last time the Jets
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had that? Twenty five years ago.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
I hadn't thought about that. I mean, those are the
four must haves in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You got to have a quarterback, a left tackle, a
p unter weapon, and it really helps in twenty twenty
five to have somebody whouldn't make catches over the field,
either a slot receiver or a tight end. And the
Jets would have all four, and that's that's something.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, let me go back to the TMAC video because
you know Arizona.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Football pretty well. Yeah, I know Jetfish.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Any of this stuff that you're hearing from TMAC jive
with him at Arizona because the video was a little suss.
It was almost like he was eating fast food at
like a in and out, and I couldn't tell if
that was like a random person videotaping and he didn't know,
but someone felt off about the video.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Well, he basically came out and said, I don't watch
a lot of football, and I don't want.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Is that him acting cool?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Like young guys are just acting cool, Like he would
never tell a front office that.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Do you think you just lied them?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
I watch film. I love film, like I.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Don't.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I don't want to overreact to stuff, but I have
some questions about that video.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Well, and also, you know, it's really weird.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I'm sometimes there are certain things I don't care a
ton about, Like there are four or five positions need
maturity left tackle, quarterback, like a mic linebacker, like center
calling all the audibles. Safety Like, let's say there are
certain safety like I need somebody in the back end
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of my defense that's a real grown up, that's a
that's an experienced, smart guy. But there are other positions
like man at corner. I just need guys that can
lock up running back. I just need somebody that.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Hits the hole. It's not the end of the world.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I've always said the hat on backwards theory, that's for
the quarterback. On Wednesday, during the press conference with a
bank sponsor behind it. I don't care if my receivers
were the hat on backwards. I don't care. I don't
care if my outside linebacker does. They're certain positions matter
more so it's not the end of the world. But
I think you have to have more self awareness than
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to say it, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Well these are these are college kids, you know, when
guys are want to act cool.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Oh, I don't watch film. I'm just a natural athlete.
I don't put in the way, you know, like that's
that was the vibe I was getting.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
And also you'd be surprised how often athletes don't watch
their sport. I remember having a discussion with a baseball
player like a decade ago with the other place, and
he's like, dude, it's I got I hunt, I fish.
I'm busy family. I don't watch a lot of baseball.
I play it, I don't watch it. And so you know,
I it's not the end of the world. If you
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like him, go draft him. I mean, the kid is long,
with great hands, and it just makes a bunch.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Of cats tested catches. He looks like a T.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Higgins to me, Yes, that's who I kind of see it.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
I don't love it. It's got.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
It's got like a Johnny Manzel vibe. But Manzel drove
me nuts because of the position he plays tea mackets.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Like, it's not the end of the world.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I don't love it, and I do think there will
be a team that passes on him for that PROBA,
but I don't think it's a consensus. If you need
a receiver, you're gonna draft him.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
He's good, but maybe not Carolina at eight, which is
what everybody had him pegged for.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
He could follow. Yeah, it's the herd.
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Welcome in live. It's the Hurt wherever you may be,
however you may be listening. Kelvin Samson, great coach of
the Houston Cougars, is going to be joining us in
one hour from now. That team is That team is
a handful, and they've had a road Gonzaga PERDW. They
have had a road. Tennessee got spanked. That game was
not competitive, and Tennessee, by the way, didn't do a
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lot once they fell down. They didn't have like a
second gear. Not a lot of college basketball team shoot well.
So if you get no Ale, Michigan State can be
a little bit of trouble. I think it's been a
fun tournament. I cannot wait for Duke in Houston, cannot wait,
cannot wait.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
For you to give us a bracket update. Now that's
what I'm very excited about.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Tom anything over there, No, no, nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Because I got a little chalky with it, as the
kids like to say, And uh, you know what do
we We got four number one seeds, but they're the
best teams by so far.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's not even close. Feels like it. Here we go
Colin right, Colin wrong on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Two SEC teams in the final four, four in the
final eight.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's not close.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Outside of Duke, nobody in the ACC really did much
the ACC, I mean the SEC, the athletes, the lane.
I picked Auburn as my number one, Florida maybe the
best team. It's just a deeper, better conference. We've been
saying this since early January on this show. Are you
watching SEC basketball? Because it looks like the ACC about
(01:49):
six years ago? And here's Bruce Pearl, Auburn coach, on
the conference.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Everybody in the SEC has invested.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
It just means more.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
And I said this at the beginning of the season.
The team's at.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The autom of our league are investing very similarly to
the teams in the middle, in the top of the league.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
There's just not that much difference. There isn't.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Where Colin was roughed I started thinking too much. I
did not have Duke in the final four because three
freshmen play over twenty minutes, and I thought they were
too young.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Well, they're all so great.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
They're favored by four and a half over a great
Houston team. Their average winning margin this is much like
Yukon last year. They're winning by twenty three points a game.
So they've got athleticism, coaching, length, depth, and the best
player easily in.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Cooper Flat where Colin was right, Well.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I said the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And this is without Freeman, Freddy Freeman and Mookie Bets
being one hundred percent and without Otani pitching. Yet I
think this is the best roster I've ever seen. And
according to Baseball Stats, the Dodgers are the first team
in baseball history to go five to zero with thirty
plus runs scored, twenty plus walks drawn, ten plus home runs,
fifty five strikes, and zero errors committed. They do not
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have a hole. It is a virtual all star team.
And again, depth of talent, pitching, bullpen, it's like nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I've ever seen. Where Colin was raw.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
You know, I thought the.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yankees would pull back a little without Garrett Cole who
knew they would revolutionize the torpedo bat. They have fifteen
home runs in three games. It's Babe Ruth on HGH,
Babe Ruth multiplied and for the record, Aaron Judges are
using them. But they have legally. The dimensions of the
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bat haven't changed. The length hasn't changed, the weight hasn't changed.
They've just redistributed the bulk of the bat toward the
label for a couple of batters and it is working.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Wonders where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I've said this cowboy team is top heavy and in
trouble in Steven Jones admitted this week and that yeah,
free agency got a little more expensive than we could afford.
And again in February, I was quoted saying, this is
the big brand in the country that is reeling and
reeling fast, and they went cheap on a head coach.
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They've slowly been dying for a couple of years. I
know the twelve win thing, but if they pay Micah,
that'll be Micah Deck and Ceedee Lamb have produced one
playoff win and that was over that sub five hundred Tampa.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Team where Colin was real a.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Minute I started supporting John Calipari. He blew a sixteen
point lead and lost in the tournament the minute I
put my arms around him. It is hard to blow
a big lead late in college basketball simply because there
are not a lot of potent offenses in the sport.
And Arkansas got outscored twenty seven to eleven down the stretch.
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They probably should have called a time out to slow
it down. They didn't, and the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I said, Aaron Rodgers has all the leverage the Steelers.
He should take his dear sweet time, and he is.
Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf had a throwing session at UCLA,
and Aaron's telling you maybe I'll take it, maybe I won't.
I'm leaning toward he's gonna take it now. But this
is what I said, if you don't have urgency with
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a quarterback position, this is what happened to Washington with
Sam Hallan, It's what's happened with Mike Tomlin and the Steelers.
They just don't take quarterback and offense seriously enough. Where
Colin was raw, I hated this story. That receiver who
I loved at Arizona t mac with quoted as saying
this weekend. I'm not a big fan of watching film.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I don't watch football. That's not what you want to say.
That's that's got Johnny Manziel vibes all over it, bro,
the great Ones, the Larry Fitzgerald's, the Jerry Rice, it's
you got a care, it's prep. It's not just hanging
out with your receiver group. If you want to separate
in any position. This is a sport where cognitive function
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and commitment is really big. I love this kid out
of college, but this is a I mean, this is
a If I need a receiver, I may wait till
the next round kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Comment where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I've said wide receivers the convertible sports car of football.
It's fun, it's flashy, doesn't produce a lot of playoff wins.
Yreek Hill this weekend, once out of Miami, hinted at
multiple trades in multiple posts on x Kansas City has
been to three Super Bowl since he's left Miami has
produced zero playoff wins since he arrived.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I like him.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think he's a good player. I'd love to have
him on my team. But there is something about this
position that just creates personality plus and it This is
why I've said watch out with DK met kafin Pittsburgh.
I don't know what it is with the position, but
this is something that is way too common and a
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bit of a nuisance for Miami. Makes answer questions you
don't have to deal with Colin right, Colin?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Wrong with that? Matt Hasselback eighteen years in the NFL.
First of all, the Aaron.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Dk Metcalf workout at UCLA, I don't know, that feels
like something that I don't want to be like media
guy making it out to be a big deal, but
it kind of feels like something right.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah, Well, listen, that's the spot UCLA.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
I mean, even back when I was playing guys who'd
meet up in La either the Home Depot Center or
over at UCLA, they're very friendly with celebrities coming there
and working out. I mean, I think I've seen Justin
Bieber working out there on the track over there, running
the stairs.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
So that's not a big deal.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
What it does tell me, though, is that Aaron Rodgers
isn't really thinking about retiring, Like you don't go out
at his age and throw footballs with DK Metcalf in March,
if you're probably going to retire. So I don't know
that we have a lot of answers, but I think
that answer is pretty clear. This is a guy that's
training and getting ready to play this year.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, and Aaron has said multiple times he loves the game.
It brings him a lot of joy. And if you've
been good at this sport, as you well know, oh,
guys want to play it. It pays well, it's fun
and Pittsburgh's got some dudes. Okay, So I've heard a
lot about this Shadoor Sanders, and I keep saying, here's
all I know about Shador Sanders. Okay, I'm not a
scout bat old line running for his life. No run game,
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seventy four percent completion percentage. That is something that's like,
not just a sixty eight seventy fours a lot. I
don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
He's a Lamar. I don't think he's Mahomes. I don't know.
I know he didn't win a lot of games. That's
not the end of it. Matt. Did Matt Ryan win
a lot of games in college?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Hey, I take offense to that because he went to
Boston College. But my dad went to Colorado. So I'll
defend Shador. Listen, the seventy four percent completion or whatever,
it was a really high completion percentage. That doesn't mean
all that much to me because he's not a guy
that threw a lot of balls away, and as a
play caller, when you don't trust your offensive line, you're
getting the ball out of your hands quick also with
some screen games, so that's not really what I'm looking
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I think he's got all the tools. I'm sure some
scouts are saying, hey, he's only six one and a half,
he's like two hundred and twelve pounds, Like, that's not
giving me. Justin Herbert, you know Tom Brady, the Manning
six foot five type guy vibes. So you're a little
bit of an outlier to get drafted in the top
five of the draft with his measurables. But he does
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have other intangibles that he brings to the table. I
do love his competitiveness. I think that there's a there's
a DNA or a cent in some teams.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Though, where they don't really love.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Some of the other stuff we've seen, some of the taunting,
not shaking hands, all the penalties, pushing a referee like
some of that kind of stuff I think might give
some people pause, But no, I think he's going to
have a successful career. At the same time, I think
he could drop a little bit on day one.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So you know Pete Carroll, well, I would argue Pete
is old school football.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
He likes a run game.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
When he had Marshawn Lynch and Reggie Bush and a
pass rush, he's done well. I think Ashton Genty and
I know everybody hates drafting running backs. If you go
the last six seven years, if you draft a running
back top twelve, they're all good. There's no misses late
first round where everything misses. That's different. I could see
Pete Carroll, you know him. You know Chip Kelly, I
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could see him saying, guys, that's gonna make us. We
got to have ball control to beat Mahomes and Herbert.
We're not doing it with Gino throwing forty times Raiders
and Genty. It works for me, what say you?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Yeah, it works for me too, And no doubt that
Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly they want to run the
ball and so it's very easy to get your mind
around like a Marshawn Lynch type running game. There in
Las Vegas at the same time. At the same time,
like we got to figure out what the league feels
about the Saquon effect. Like you said, a lot of
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people are saying, do we really need to draft your
running back that high?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And the answer was no.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
But then the Saquon effect happened, and now people are
looking at guys like Gent and they're saying, hey, that
could be our Saquon.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So that's a factor.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
However, much in the way that I said, not every
team loves the vibe of a shdar Sanders. If he
were to fall down to the Raiders around six, would
they go ahead and take him?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Because I think Pete Carroll loves that vibe.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Living on the edge of competitiveness, having a flare about you.
I think he loves that, and having him behind a
geno Smith early in his career. I mean, I could
see them taking the long view of it that way.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
That would not shock me either.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You know, well, I've talked about this before, is you
can win when you're top heavy. The Rams did with Ramsey,
Darnld Stafford Whitworth, where they had like four or five
guys making a ton of money. Then they have to
rebuild and it's really bad. Now, the Rams drafted so
well back to back drafts, and they have Stafford that
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they've kind of like not had much of a rebuild,
so you can go top heavy. I think the Niners did,
and then last year was like, Okay, we're really old,
expensive and brittle. I honestly think the play for Dallas
because you're already invested on the right side of to
me offense ceedee Lambdack.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I think.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Draft weekend gets emotional. I would move my Caparsons in
a week draft. I don't want to pay three players
five hundred seventy million. I just I can't do that.
Look at Philly's roster, Detroit roster, the Rams roster, the
Ravens roster. Cowboys need seven players. They don't need a
really great pass rusher. Am I nuts?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I mean, they got to do something. I mean, I
don't know what the solution is there. They've spent too
much money on one side of the ball to have
the results that they've had so far. I don't know
if I'm building a team though, I need my guy
on the offensive side of the ball, and I need
my guy on the defensive side of the ball. Mike
Congrind would talk about this all the time. Back when
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they were in San fran with Bill Walsh, they had
Joe Montana and they had Ronnie Lott. Like in Green
Bay they had Brett fav and they had Reggie Waight.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
To me, Michaeh.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Parsons is as good as it gets at the position.
I can't see a scenario where I'm getting rid of him.
I really can't. However, you make some good points. They
have a lot of issues, and their division has gotten
a lot better than they are, you know, in terms
of what Philly is and what Washington's about to come
about to become. So Dallas they kind of need a miracle.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I want to wrap with this. I had a GM
once tell me. He said, I don't want thirteen draft picks.
He goes, cause if eight of them hit, we're going
to be super young. And most players, outside of a
corner or a running back take like a year to
figure it out. Tight ends take a year to figure
out blocking. A lot of receivers are raw. And he said,
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I'd rather have like a player and seven picks than
twelve picks. And I look at New England, all new
free agents they're going to have, all new draft picks.
Forty percent of this roster could be new, and Drake
May's a kid in your NFL experience? Can you be
too new? Can you have too many young niners? Have
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twelve draft picks?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
What a nine hit? How do you fall on that?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Listen, look at the contract of the head coach when
you want the answer to that question. If a guy's
in the first year of his deal, he can do that.
He can say, hey, I'm taking a long view of
this thing. Not a problem. And then the flip side,
look at a guy like John Harbaugh and Baltimore just
did a deal. It's win now. I don't even know
if they need a draft pick like that. They've got
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a great team as is, So yeah, Vrabel, Are they
trying to win? Yes, they're trying to build something special.
They're trying to build a house. But this is a
foundational year for them. That's you know, they got to
get everything around Drake may Wright so that he can
be they what they hope he can.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Be, and we all know what that is.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
In Foxborough, they're trying to hoist Lombardes and nothing short
of that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
By the way, can you convince j mack so I
keep telling j Mack. What a fun time I have
in Chicago. I was there this weekend. Why don't you
tell him if you had a nice weekend in Chicago.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Hey, lou slip sink ships Colin.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I had too good of a time. Uh, in Chicago.
That's a that's a great city.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
In fact, they think they're still celebrating Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I don't know how that's true.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
They were celebrating that like two weeks before, and now
here we are like almost April and they're still celebrating.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Matt Hassel. But great seeing you, Maddie.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Always see guys.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, he had a family get together in Chicago, and
they could have vict a lot of places, and they
went to Chicago.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
It was a good time. I had a good I
was in the Burbs and had a good time. It's
quite a city. Ryan was there this week Was there
no snow?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Right?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
No, it's like.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Forty eight degrees fifty three ball me forty eight? Yeah, yes,
I think it's sixty today. Is it today or tomorrow
at sixty?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I love to hear that. I've got to go to
a cold weather locale very soon. I'm not throwing where
where where I can't talk about her on here.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
What confidential information, my friend, Well, you're going to Philly.
That's confidential or something. Why would I go to Philly
for hot.
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Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like really good sports all weekend long. Yankees are revolutionizing
baseball with their torpedo bat. The Dodgers basically are setting
records and everybody's complaining about it. There is this group
of sports fans out there, and I've always felt small
towns dominate high school football. Odessa, Texas has a better
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high school football program than anybody in LA or New.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
York or Chicago.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And then mid size markets dominate college football and college basketball.
Raleigh and Arbor, Austin, Texas, Columbus, Ohio, and the Big
Cities is for pro sports. Now, that doesn't mean you
can't find a great high school basketball program in Dallas
or Houston. I'm not saying that, but generally small towns
dominate high school sports. If you go look at dynasties,
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it's a lot of small towns or suburbs, and mid
size markets dominate, you know, Hartford, Connecticut stores, Connecticut College Basketball, Raleigh,
and then the big cities, your Phillies, your you know,
your LA's and your San Francisco's, and you know Houston's.
They dominate pro sports Atlanta and it's all good. What
the problem being is these owners love expansion fees, so
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they keep adding teams and because owners then, oh it's
cost you eight hundred million dollars to add another team,
and they love that because that's split among owners. So
the truth is we got about six teams in every
one of these sports that probably shouldn't have a pro team.
I mean, Jacksonville, Florida is a college football market. Wonderful.
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People just sat next to one the other night at dinner. Wonderful.
It's a college football market, not a pro market. But
you know, the expansion fee. You look in the NBA,
there's you could take four teams out of every league
in America and we'd be better off. So when you
see the Yankees and the Dodgers dominating. There are people
that have financial, commerce, geographical advantages and that's just the
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way it is. And by the way, it's the same
thing in college sports, where it's an advantage being Georgia
they care about college football. Chicago doesn't really I mean
New York, Philadelphia, Boston do they really care. So, you know,
I've never had a problem with you know, the way
it's set up in America where big cities have more money.
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The Yankees have, you know, more money than Baltimore. All Right,
it's an advantage. That doesn't mean like in the NFL,
both New York teams are a hot mess. It doesn't
mean it guarantees success. But if you do have the
right owner and the right general manager, like in Philadelphia
or LA with the Rams, it is an advantage. It's
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an advantage over Green Bay. It is j Mack with
the News.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Speaking of advantages.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
The Jets have justed Field.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's a big edge over Aaron Rodgers. Jets gave him
a two year deal and he's going to be their starter.
Fields is on his third team in five seasons, actually
third team and three seasons after Bears, Steelers now Jets.
Here's Aaron Glenn talking about the third time being a charmer.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
QUI confidence you go back and watch him out of
house state, big arm understands how to run an offense
when give an opportunity. I's want to let him play quarterback.
I mean, that's what he's always wanted to do. And listen,
I'm not saying that he hasn't had a chance to
play it. Do that in other places, and you know
that's not my issue. But I know what I want
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to do with that player, and obviously want to utilize
his legs, but I also want to give him a
chance to go out there and play quarterback.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
He'll get a second chance.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Donald got one, Well, the third I'm gonna be positive here.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
You ready, Donald.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Got a third, Baker got a third time. There's no
reason justin Field's can't get a third.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
So if you're looking for something positive, justin Field's completion
percentage has gone up every year he's been in the league.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I remember he's moving around teams offensive coordinators.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
And he also has had some defensive situations that are
not ideal. Bears and Steelers are totally defensive organizations, and.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
His quarterback rating has also increased every single year. Again,
he's not throwing as many passes last year as he
did the first few years, but there is signs of
progress now. How he meshes with the new OC no
do what happens with him here will?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Everybody likes him. He's got a good arm and he
moves well. And Sam Darnold did not click until Minnesota,
and Baker didn't really truthfully really click like Tampa was like, Oh,
Baker's really good, but.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Some are with stud guy like Liam Cohen was excellent.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, again, here's where I would defend Justin Fields. I
do not think like a Baker at Donald. He is
gifted enough to overcome the wrong culture or the staff.
And I think the Bears offensively and the Steelers offensively.
Now unfortunately the Jets are going to be a defensive culture.
If this kid would have gone to Sean McVeigh, there's
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no doubt in my mind you'd get the best version
of him. Now, what is the best version of him?
Is it Sam Donald last year? I don't think it is.
Is it Baker in Tampa? I don't quite think it is.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
But it could be. Could be. Yeah, So he does.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
He's not a kid. Like everybody I know that's talked
to him. Everybody likes it. Everybody likes Donald, people like
Baker like that. Part of it is players when when
Tomlin bailed on him last year, that was a little
bit of a warning sign because they were four and two.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Well, but the players loved him, remember they really like
everybody liked him. Yah.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah, the fields is good. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
The more you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Talk about fields here just now, I'm starting to be like, okay,
do we have something in a new do we need
to raise the expectations? Win totals are starting to emerge?
Oh ya, le jets, I don't We don't have them yet. No, no,
I just saw him this weekend. I can't believe I
didn't bring him. I'll bring him in tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Oh I Okay, maybe I'm not on the right now.
I am a big seller on Dallas.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Dallas has way tell me, okay, if I recall, it
was like eight and a half and I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no,
Dallas under uh there was an over the oh Chargers
over Dallas under those are the two that I remember.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Okay, all right, Well, looking forward to that. Let's get
to Dion Sanders.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Colin.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
He talked about how he would handle Shador's process last year.
You remember this, saying there were certain cities where he
wouldn't play.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
It's going to be an Eli. He was like.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Almost sending messages threatening folks. Well, Dion sounds like he's
changed his tune and he's gonna be happy wherever shaduur
lands and won't try to get him to a preferred destination.
And I'm sure you saw over the weekend Dion got
a new deal to stay in Boulder five years fifty.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
You know, Nil, I've got to be honest with Dean Sanders.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I remember the first weekend he got the job, and
my first thought was cowboy Dion and in like pot.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Central, there's no way.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And then I thought about it over the weekend, I thought,
we know what college football is about, getting attention and recruiting.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
My bad, He'll do okay. I am surprised.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I thought this was a little bit of an airport
for him land stay there briefly, get on the next light,
you know what.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
To his credit, I think he really likes it. I
think he likes college kids. I think he's created a culture.
It's kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Do you think he's saying this, Hey, wherever he goes,
I'm going to be happy for him. Do you think
that's because he secretly knows already he's going to Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I think he's a dad and he's fired up for him.
And it's the last thing you want to do is
if your kid goes somewhere and you complain about it
and all of a sudden, the kids got stuff in
his I think you should just let him go where
he goes.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
It's pro sports.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
If you're if you're good enough to make it, and
I think Shadoor's got some talent here, then you'll make it.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Final story, Colin, not great news.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Kevin Durant turned an ankle badly last night. You see
it there, just totally Ben's couldn't put any pressure on it.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Not good.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I don't know how he wears low tops twenty hoops
kind of stepped on the ankle there. I think that's
one of the Thompson twins. Key not good left. He's
getting an MRI today, will not travel with the team tomorrow.
Big three game road trip for the Suns. They are
trying to get into the play in I don't think
it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Well, you to raise some speculations. May have been his
final game with the Suns. Look, you can't even walk. Yeah,
it probably is because we know he's going to be
elsewhere this offseason.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
He's gott at Houston. You think the Knicks are in play.
I'm sure some people are going to be speculating Boston.
Who knows, but kind of a.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Just he's got a market and you got to bake
in some injuries. He's always it's his stinks. You know,
he's thirty seven, he's hurt.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Now we have Dane down with the blood clot, we
got Kevin Durant down.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Probably not gonna make the playoffs. You're looking at Devin
Booker not in.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
The ploffs, Joel Embiid, Paul George, all these stars.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Just mistinks we were been moaning Joe Burrow not making
the playoffs. It's interesting think about this.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
In football, bigger, stronger men tackle each other, and when
you get to the end of the season, the really
good teams are all almost all healthy. I mean, Kansas
City was missing an offensive lineman the two Super Bowls.
Kansas City has been hammered. They just missed a left tackle.
They've had some O line issues, but the by and large,
the Rams were healthy at the end of the year,
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and the Eagles were healthy at the end of the year,
and the Lions were.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Remote Sneers were most definitely.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I mean, everybody loses one really good player generally over
the course of an NFL season.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You're gonna lose one of your big your big stars.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But it's funny how the NBA we we don't think
of contact and physicality. A lot of dudes, I mean,
they're finely tuned athletes. A lot of dudes get hurt.
Do you start ticking off the names? You're like, man,
there's a lot of guys out.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by the herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
So why'd you get all worn out this weekend? What
did you do?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You know, my daughter's in sixth grade. She's pretty good
at basketball. She has some friends who are good. We
put together like an all star team and just entered
a tournament. We had one practice together and we won
the tournament.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yesterday.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It was amazing free throw with one second left to
break the tie. Colin I will just say this to
all the dad's watching. You got to coach your kids.
It is the most fun thing I've ever done. I'm
not even kidding. I've done some fun things in my life,
spring break in college. I'm just saying, coaching your kids
the reward seeing them go crazy. The parents, it's awesome
because there's only a fine eye window. You know, your
(26:41):
kids are now grown up, right, You don't hang with them,
You barely see them.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Well, my daughter I talked to every day, Oh every day.
I talk to my kids a lot. Thank God for
FaceTime facetimes. I remember, I remember the moment I knew
FaceTime was revolutionary. My daughter was in Cape Town, South Africa,
at a leadership conference.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
I sent her down there.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
She had a it was amazing conference and camp conference.
And I was in Manhattan Beach and she calls me
from her room in Cape Town and it's clear as
a bell, without much of a delay. And I'm on
the beach in California, and I'm like, this is great
for parents. Yeah, you could talk to your kid. I mean,
last night I'm talking to my daughter. She just you know,
moved to a place.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
The only drawback of this tournament was I start coaching
the game with another dad. Texas chech is up seven
on Florida with like three minutes left. I'm like, oh
my gosh, great for my bracket.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
After the game, I asked the rests, hey, who won
to get in? They're like Florida. I was like, what
that comeback?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I had to watch it, Colin, did you see the
strategy from Florida fouling down seven with like three minutes
left to put bad free throw shooters on the lip.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
That's genius stuff. It worked, And then Walter Clayton.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Florida is not as good as everybody told me. Duke
is better than I thought. Houston is what I thought.
Duke is better than I thought. Florida's not quite as
great as everybody told me. I like Auburn to win it.
I still think, whoh no, I think Auburn Old Yeah
I do, and be okay.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well that's the key. If he's okay, he's a tough kid.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
He is a he's another great story stated he started
small college, moved his way up. He's what is he
twenty three years old? Now he's an awesome player. You're like,
how is he not a pro? He's got to be
a pro.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Right, Well, some guys, some guys remember One Dixon at Maryland.
Some guys like they're just great college players and then
they get to the pros and they're tweeners and they
just you know, it's he.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Had his moment. One Dixon did it mary He's a legend.
You'll never pay for a drink in college park. And
by the way, a bit of a tweener in the
NBA and it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah, it happens live in La. It's the Herd.
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Speaker 1 (29:42):
I don't think we're being hyperbolic to say Cooper Flag
just doesn't happen anymore. Where you get an eighteen year
old American player that is internationally skilled, International, the whole
system in international is so much better than AAU basketball.
AAU basketball is all about getting your and you know,
the swag and the too many games played, and it
(30:04):
doesn't really develop players. So they get you know, they
get pampered and babied, and they get to the NBA
and they're just not skilled or mature enough. Cooper Flag
has the maturity and the skill level of somebody from
Lithuania that's been playing against guys that are six years older,
like Luca. Luca walked into the league, Wemby walks into
the league, Jokic walks in and very quickly You're like,
these guys are just way more skilled, a lot less pampering,
(30:28):
a lot more skill and maturity, and we just don't
have a lot of this in the American basketball culture.
And I thought what was really impressive is he was
all offense against Arizona.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
He was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And then against Alabama, you know they're double and they're
putting pressure on him. He goes to the glass, he
defends and he plays off ball, but he just what
you're seeing with this, it's not just a duke thing.
It's this kid should be in high school. He should
be a high school player, and he sounds like a pro.
Here's Cooper Flag.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
It's kind of something that I've said a lot through
this whole year, so that we just have such a
talented team. Each night could be somebody else's night. I
think tonight Con kind of stepped up and you know,
had the ball a lot.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
We ran a lot of actions for him.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Tyrus was huge for us.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
I mean, I think it's just having so many talented
guys on the team. It's not gonna be your night
every night, and it just don't hang your head. Just
keep playing hard. Somebody talk about just winning the ninety
eight percent and doing all the little things. So just
not letting the shots affect anything else you do and
just knowing that the rest of the guys going in
my back and are gonna make those plays.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
If you look at most of the failures in the
NBA from our domestic programs, it's not a talent thing.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
They're just not mature enough.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
They can't handle their weight, they can't handle the situation.
I mean the Memphis situation. Now, John Morant shoots so
poorly at three pointers, like he he just his game
hasn't developed.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
It just hasn't developed. I mean, forget the gun stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You know, young guys come in their immature but like
his game hasn't developed. Now, the coach, they got rid
of the coach and they brought in a bunch of
new people on the staff, and Memphis a mess. Like
it's their talented But if you look at most of
the domestic players who aren't as good as we thought,
it's not that they lack talent.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
And that's why.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Like when you get a Draymond Green who comes into
the league and he's been at Michigan State multiple years,
it's such an advantage, such an advantage two or three
years of college. But I Cooper Flagg is that dude
is rare. You just watch him. That is ready, is
ready to drop twenty a night in the NBA. The
other story today is that Micah Parsons and his agent
want two hundred million dollars. Now I have said this,
(32:39):
I would trade him on draft weekend. Draft weekend in
the NFL is like married guys going to Vegas. Like
you're capable of really poor judgment. I'm not saying you'll
do something with poor judgment, but you're capable of it,
and you'll get patient. Executives on draft weekend get impatient.
Stoic gms in the NFL will get emotional. So I mean,
(33:02):
you look at the Eagles and Lions rosters and increasingly
the Rams. The Cowboys aren't close. I mean, if you
pay Micah two hundred million, you'll be paying Micah more
than the entire Rams defense, and the Rams are still
two years from paying anybody. So I think sometimes in
business you have to leverage these very, very emotional moments.
(33:24):
We have a bad draft, and again this is the
way the NFL works. As a coach, you get two years,
that's it. As a quarterback you get sometimes less than
two years before the guy upstairs who's now a billionaire
loses patience. And Dallas has gotten you know, Jerry Jones
(33:44):
has gone from Maverick to melt cooast. He'd you know,
extending Dak getting cheap on a coach, Mike McCarthy. They're
not taking big swings on stuff. And Philadelphia is and
Detroit is, and the Rams are and the Niners are
and the Cowboys aren't. And you go back to the
(34:04):
Jimmy Jones ere they did. They took big swings and
so you know, I to me, Micah Parsons, you're gonna
get a first round pick. So Cowboys would have two
first round picks. You'll probably get a first and a third.
Now you got to hit on those draft picks. I
like him as a player. He's not Miles Garrett, he's
(34:25):
not Von Miller in his prime. He's not Aaron Donald.
I don't think he's TJ.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I don't think he's Aiden Hutchison. I don't think he's
as talented as Jared Verse. I think he's a really,
really good a edge rusher. But I would have no
problem if I got a couple of draft picks. Spend
your money on the right side of the ball. It's
not that I don't like him. I can think two things.
I think he's really good, and I think he could
(34:51):
get us another first round pick. Dallas has got to
figure out a way to not spend five hundred and
seventy six million on three players, because this roster needs
six dudes, not re signing one dude. Here's Matt Hasselbeck
on the Cowboys issues with Micah.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
They've spent too much money on one side of the
ball to have the results that they've had so far.
I don't know if I'm building a team though. I
need my guy on the offensive side of the ball,
and I need my guy on the defensive side of
the ball. Micah Parsons is as good as it gets
at the position. I can't see a scenario where I'm
getting rid of him.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I really can't. However, you make some good points.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
They have a lot of issues and their division has
gotten a lot better than they are, you know, in
terms of what Philly is and what Washington's about to
come about to become.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
So Dallas they kind of need a miracle.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
So the draft now is three weeks out, Jay Mack,
it's one of our favorite times of the year, March
madness into the draft. You know, I've seen all these
draft boards. It looks like gent the running back who
we thought was top two then he dropped.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
I think what's funny.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Is is, you know I talked to an executive last
week about this stuff, is that players get hot. There's
a linebacker for Alabama now which everybody is in love with,
maygo top twelve third. People really like him. The receiver
for Arizona people are out on now.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I was going to ask you about that video. But
let me go back to Michah Parsons real quick. If
you're another team, are you giving up a first round
pick and then paying Micah Parsons?
Speaker 4 (36:27):
What what is it? Two hundred million dollars are you
doing that? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
It depends on the team. So let's say I'm a
very good team I'll just throw Washington out.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I got a rookie running quarterback deal, and I'm giving
up a first round pick in a bad draft.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Well, Dallas probably isn't doing that in the division. No,
that's a good idea, a team with a rookie quarterback.
I mean Tennessee, right, they get cam Ward, we're on
the cheap. Let's get Michael Parsons and there. You know,
we'll look better when Michael Parson's on the team. Lagerius Snead,
who is terrible coming over from Kansas City. So you're right,
it has to be a team with a quarterback on
a rookie deal that would trade for Micah, which means
(37:04):
he could be going to.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
A bad team.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, well Dallas last year was a bad, bad team.
You know, lost in all this Dallas stuff is right,
they went cheap on the coach, like lost in all
this stuff is And this is nothing against Brian Shott.
Number there is a consensus around the league that was
a miss. And by the way, Jimmy Haslam, the owner
of the Cleveland Browns, acknowledged this weekend it's over for DeShawn.
(37:28):
He said, we took a big swing and we missed.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
You don't say a swing and a miss on your
quarterback who's a Francise Bight, unless it's.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Over or you're drafting Shadeur Sanders at number two. I
thought that was interesting that the owner of the Brown said, yeah,
that Deshaun thing was a miss, and he's.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Basically admitting it was on him by saying we took
a swing and a miss, like he's the one saying
that as opposed to the GM. Everybody thinks he was
overruled to get Watson and that was a historical whiff.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
You know, how to make up for it is to
get shador.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I think this draft there's only two players in this
draft that look a little bit generational athletically, Abdull Car
abdul Car of the pass rusher Penn State and Travis Hunter.
Those guys are all time talent. In any draft, they'd
be top ten. They're great players. Yeah, I think gent
I think there's a growing belief that he's special. He
just doesn't look like other players. It's not a good
(38:16):
receiver draft. It's not a great tackle draft. It's a
good tight end draft, very good tight end draft.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a great running back draft.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
There's some good safeties, but it's most of the safeties
are late first, second, third round guys. It's just it's
not I don't know how to explain it, but I
don't remember a draft with less buzz. Yeah, and I
think the only player in this draft that changes wins
is Cam Wore to Tennessee. That's probably right now. I
do think Genty Hasselbeck talked about this. I think the
(38:49):
Raiders with a six pick, and that's where the oddsmakers
think he'll go. I think chip Kelly, Pete Carroll run game.
I think they take the running.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Back, no doubt that Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly they
want to run the ball.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
And so it's very easy.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
To get your mind around like a Marshawn Lynch type
running game there in Las Vegas. At the same time,
at the same time, like we got to figure out
what the league feels about the Saquon effect. Like you said,
a lot of people are saying, do we really need
to draft your running back that high? And the answer
was no. But then the Saquon effect happened, and now
(39:26):
people are looking at guys like Genti and they're saying, hey,
that could be our Saquon.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
So almost everybody wants to trade. I mean, it's very few,
I actually think, and I'm not just saying this because
you're here. I think the Jets pick is one of
the more fascinating ones because my take is if they
get that tight end from Penn State, that's really interesting.
They'll have their running back, receiver, left tackle, and tight
end of the future. When's the last time the Jets
(39:52):
had that? Twenty five years ago.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
I hadn't thought about that. I mean, those are the
four must haves in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You got to have a quarterback, a left tackle, a
p unter weapon, and it really helps in twenty twenty
five to have somebody whouldn't make catches over the field,
either a slot receiver or a tight end. And the
Jets would have all four, and that's that's something.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, let me go back to the TMAC video because
you know Arizona.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Football pretty well. Yeah, I know Jetfish.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Any of this stuff that you're hearing from TMAC jive
with him at Arizona because the video was a little suss.
It was almost like he was eating fast food at
like a in and out, and I couldn't tell if
that was like a random person videotaping and he didn't know,
but someone felt off about the video.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Well, he basically came out and said, I don't watch
a lot of football, and I don't want.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Is that him acting cool?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Like young guys are just acting cool, Like he would
never tell a front office that.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Do you think you just lied them?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
I watch film. I love film, like I.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Don't.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I don't want to overreact to stuff, but I have
some questions about that video.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Well, and also, you know, it's really weird.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I'm sometimes there are certain things I don't care a
ton about, Like there are four or five positions need
maturity left tackle, quarterback, like a mic linebacker, like center
calling all the audibles. Safety Like, let's say there are
certain safety like I need somebody in the back end
(41:13):
of my defense that's a real grown up, that's a
that's an experienced, smart guy. But there are other positions
like man at corner. I just need guys that can
lock up running back. I just need somebody that.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Hits the hole. It's not the end of the world.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I've always said the hat on backwards theory, that's for
the quarterback. On Wednesday, during the press conference with a
bank sponsor behind it. I don't care if my receivers
were the hat on backwards. I don't care. I don't
care if my outside linebacker does. They're certain positions matter
more so it's not the end of the world. But
I think you have to have more self awareness than
(41:47):
to say it, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Well these are these are college kids, you know, when
guys are want to act cool.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Oh, I don't watch film. I'm just a natural athlete.
I don't put in the way, you know, like that's
that was the vibe I was getting.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
And also you'd be surprised how often athletes don't watch
their sport. I remember having a discussion with a baseball
player like a decade ago with the other place, and
he's like, dude, it's I got I hunt, I fish.
I'm busy family. I don't watch a lot of baseball.
I play it, I don't watch it. And so you know,
I it's not the end of the world. If you
(42:18):
like him, go draft him. I mean, the kid is long,
with great hands, and it just makes a bunch.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Of cats tested catches. He looks like a T.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Higgins to me, Yes, that's who I kind of see it.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
I don't love it. It's got.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
It's got like a Johnny Manzel vibe. But Manzel drove
me nuts because of the position he plays tea mackets.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Like, it's not the end of the world.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I don't love it, and I do think there will
be a team that passes on him for that PROBA,
but I don't think it's a consensus. If you need
a receiver, you're gonna draft him.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
He's good, but maybe not Carolina at eight, which is
what everybody had him pegged for.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
He could follow. Yeah, it's the herd.
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