March 31, 2025 • 41 mins
Colin explains why he loves the men's college basketball Final Four being all 1-seeds and anyone suggesting otherwise is not telling the truth
Thoughts on the "Torpedo bats" being used by the Yankees
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of Houston in the Final four, we'll be joining us.
So it's actually a great, great weekend of sports. Baseball
was amazing, a little controversy in the Bronx, great college
basketball they had to fight in the NBA, and a
little bit of NFL news. But Jay Mac, we've got
our Final four and it's all number one seeds. Great teams. Yeah,
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the four best teams. I don't think there's any question
about that. So it's Florida, Duke, Houston, and Auburn. And
yet somebody out there a lot of people out there
are saying, this is one of the most boring marches ever.
A boy, oh boy, this is what guys do. I
don't think women do this as much, although I can't
speak from experience. There's something about guys. They want you
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to know that they heard the garage band first, or
they they really like mid major basketball and they're gonna
brag about it in the internet. They're called nerds. You
don't want to watch Duke in Houston. You don't want
to watch Cooper Flag and the most talented team in
a long time in college basketball offensively against the best
defensive team maybe ever in Houston. You don't want to
watch that. Kelvin Samson. They played. They hammered Tennessee, a
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good Tennessee team, humiliated Tennessee. They got past Purdue, the
past Gonzaga, two of the top six programs in the country.
Mark fu said, the one team he didn't want to
face Houston, and now they faced Duke. You don't want
to watch that. You don't want to watch Florida and Auburn.
Y'all lectured me that Florida was gonna win the tournament.
Now you don't like them. You were smarter than everybody else.
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Guys that in the garage band you told me, you
watch it, you knew it. Auburn Florida are the two
best teams. Didn't easily the best college basketball conference. I mean,
outside of Duke, nobody in the ACC won a game,
So you don't want to watch these teams. And by
the way, Duke has won sixteen to seventeen and Florida's
won sixteen to eighteen, Like they're the hottest teams. We
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had a college football playoff Cinderella fan SMU Boise State, Indiana.
How'd that work out? You thought that was good sports?
I didn't. In fact, in the college football playoff era,
the lowest rated national championship game had one of those
Cinderellas Georgia sixty five TCU seven. I bet you liked
that too. Now, those of us with a social life
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did not. We stopped watching mid second quarter. So these
are red hot teams. They're the best teams. They've been
challenged outside of Duke. And it's like these people in
the movie industry who want to convince you Shape of
Water was the best movie a woman falling in love
with a fish. They're really these weirdos. Yeah, I'm gonna
go with Christopher Nolan, Martin Scorsese, Spielberg, Mission Impossible, Oppenheimer. Yeah,
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I'm gonna go with those, you know, which made seven
times the money of a woman falling in love with
a fish. But you know, I'm very artsy. I see
things you don't. I watch mid major basketball. Congratulations, I
went out with my wife. It was a good time
a couple of times during the tournament. Fun time, cocktails,
good dinner friends. I'm not watching Missouri Valley Conference basketball,
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and I'm not going to pretend I care for SMU football. Rocks.
They can't compete with the big dogs. So this whole
thing about you, you keep telling me the ratings are up,
so obviously I'm among the group of people who like Duke,
who liked the SEC, which has really started paying attention
to basketball. I said this in January. I'm like, folks,
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I don't know what you're watching, but SEC basketball is
noticeably better than Big ten in ACC basketball. Like, it's
not close. They got more shooters, they got more athletes.
The coaches are all well known. So Bruce Pearl on
four number one seeds. Sorry Drexel, Sorry, Lipscomb. Sorry, community colleges. Sorry,
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we got four number ones. And here's Bruce Pearl.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I told our guys right now, we haven't bet the
team yet that I thought was better than us, and
that's why we're the overall number one seed and now
we're going to the final four. Were our four to
one seats, and I think the four teams that are advanced,
I think there are four best teams in the country
that doesn't obviously always happen.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay, So we have ourselves a really interesting situation in baseball,
and everybody's freaking out, and I think they're really freaking
out because it's the Yankees. If this was the Rays,
you know, or the Diamondbacks, it wouldn't be nearly the story.
So the Yankees used an MIT analyst, Aaron Lernhard. He's
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a former Yankee analyst. There are a lot of fans
of the Yankees in New York and around the globe, frankly,
and they had a couple guys on the roster. Volpe
was struggling to hit, and so they did something totally
legal and it has been a massive home run. So
they moved shifted some of the weight in the bat
from the barrel closer to the label. So in baseball
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there's a length restriction in a diameter restriction, and the
Yankees didn't break either. Roll baseball telligien, bat's got to
be this long and this big and diameter. It doesn't
tell you where you have to put the meat of
the bat. You could put it all in the handle
and it would look weird, but you can do that.
So the Yankees because of this are on a frenzy.
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Everybody's hitting home runs. They're first in runs, home runs,
RBI's ops, they're number one and everything. And you know
what this is. It's peak Bill Belichick. He knows the
rule book better than you did. He knows it better
than the Ravens did, or the Colts did. The Colts,
by the way, we're piping in sound, which is illegal
in the NFL. But Belichick knew the rule book better.
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So all the Yankees did, and MIT analysts, smart people
go there. Shifted weight from the barrel. They didn't make
the diameter illegal. They didn't change the length of it.
They just I mean slightly shifted it. Now, for the record,
not every batter needs it. A couple teams tried it
last year Aaron Judge is like, yeah, I'm doing fine
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without it. Maybe you've noticed oh Oshoeo Tani, Mookie Bets,
Freddie Freeman. Not everybody's using it, but we've seen this
in golf and tennis. We've seen innovations. And my take
on sports is always been pushed the envelope. Let the governance,
the governing body, the FCC, the SEC, or Major League Baseball,
let them reel you back in like the tush push.
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I got no problem with the creation of it. I
don't think it's terribly healthy. I don't think you should
be pushing quarterbacks into the line. Let everybody vote on it.
But give the Eagles credit for creating it. They created
it because they have a quarterback that can you know,
I mean six hundred and sixty pound leg presses, and
they had the best center in the last twenty years
in the NFL. So they're like, yeah, let's do it.
Let's just just automatically get two yards. It works. So
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and I'll tell you the answer on this Yankee stuff
is never to complain and be rigid and be a traditionalist.
It's like one and done. In college basketball, John Calipari
is like, yeah, it's legal, I'm going for it. Mike
Skrzyzewski got stubborn, and then Shayzhevski admitted, yeah, I'm getting
beat by all these guys I'm passing on. Rigid didn't win.
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It's like three pointers in the NBA Lakers were rigid
Warriors weren't. How that work out? It's like the portal,
the transfer portal in college football. Ohio State's like all
in Georgia, all in Clemson's like, nah, nah, it's a
little sketchy. How's that working for Clemson? They don't look
anything close to Ohio State, and they did four years ago.
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So Ridgid's not the answer. I think in life and
in sports, sometimes you gotta take a swing, literally in baseball.
And again, if you go to ob Jay's magical catch
in New York, it's those gloves.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
He didn't do it with three fingers. He did it
with those receiver gloves, which were legal and developed over time.
So again, there's a famous Nike saying. When Phil Knightke
created a Nike he had this manifesto and one of
the things he said it was like number three or
four is always on offense. Apologize later. I don't care
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if it's golfers, this is not kicking a golf ball.
It's taking a baseball bat. They didn't cheat on diameter,
they did not cheat on length, They did none of that.
They simply shifted weight for a couple of batters who
were hitting the ball off the handle. No problem. The
Dodgers with deferred payments, go ahead complain about it, or
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adapt the Warriors, they're luxury tax payments, go ahead and
complain about it. The NBA eventually changed it. The Eagles
with a toush push, the Yankees with what they call
now the torpedo bat. I have no problem with it. Again,
this is not the Houston Astros, you know, banging on
a can. That's not what this is. People get upset
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with the Dodgers. Dodgers are smarter than you. The Yankees here,
they were smarter than everybody else.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Here's Aaron Boone, you know, trying to be the best
we can be. I mean, it's one of the things
that you know, goten pointed out. But you know, I
say to you guys all the time, we're trying to
win on the margins. We have a big organization that
are invested in a lot of different things. Where we're
trying to be better in every possible way. The reality
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is it's all within major league standards.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, I mean think about this. At one point, the
Tampa Bay Rays put a second basement in right field.
Then everybody eventually over time copied it. Now the governance
Major League Baseball said it's not good. It's keeping people
off the bases. We want more base runners and stolen bases.
So Rob Manfred said, Okay, we're going to take the
defensive shift away. But it was like Joe Madden was
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down in Tampa and eventually won a World Series in Chicago.
He's like, yeah, we're just going to put a second
basement in right field and we're going to move a
shortstop over to behind the bag, And everybody was like, Okay,
what's the difference here. It's innovation. We've seen it in golf,
We've seen it in tennis, we've seen it in baseball NBA,
and he's up to the league to figure out. Like
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the tush push, that's up to the league to figure out.
But every NFL team and baseball team and basketball team
and college basketball program, as long as you are doing
something that is legal. I looked it up this morning,
didn't cheat on length, didn't cheat on diameter. Murphy's the
manager of the Brewers, and he came out and he
just said, Hey, more offense. Good for the game. I
want my guys to be seeking any edge they can.
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Doesn't bother me at all. So I thought it was
actually I thought it was like Beer League softball in
the Bronx. I thought it was actually funny. I'm like,
you know what, man, it say what you want it.
It's it's work, and it will be duplicated like Clemson
football is a great example. Like Clemson football and I
like that. Both swingny. But he's like, I don't want
to do this whole transfer portal. Well, watch Ohio State play.
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It doesn't mean you're sacrificing all the integrity or a program.
It means, you know what, we could use that really
good corner from Alabama and that left tackle from you know, Missouri.
Go get them.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
I'm curious what the turnaround time will be for all
these teams to copycat what the Yankees are doing. I
don't think it's going to be instantaneous, right.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
I don't think it's like that.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Three months we're gonna see bowling, pin bats, throughout the league.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And also no, because it's not for every batter. They
did this because of a batter or two in the
Yankees lineup that were hitting too many things apparently off
the handle, Bullpay who had kind of struggled, and they're
like okay, Like Aaron Judge is like, I don't need it.
I don't want it into my again. Baseball is one
of those sports, like golf, you have a lot of downtime.
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The last thing you want to do is screw with
OTAWNI or Aaron Judge or Freddie Freeman. They don't want
to they don't want to screw with anything. It's like
golfers changing their clubs like Tiger Woods did that, which
was very courageous. But generally there's some superstition in baseball
and golf and a lot of downtime. So I don't
think if you're Aaron Judge you should you should worry
about right.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I love that the architect of this it went to
Mi I t was a physics professor for like what
seven years.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Well, it's just like the Billy Bean story.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
He hires de Podesta, who was like an econ major
in the IVY League, and it's like this guy's going
to change baseball. Remember when he went into the room
with the old school dudes and get this guy out
of here. What's he talking about? Kind of genius level
stuff the Jonah Hill, Yes, Jonah Hill's character.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, so I this stuff's this is why sports is
great is by the way, the NFL had a concussion
issue and kind of turned the blind eye to it
and then kind of woke up one day and said,
you know what, it doesn't make sense to have our
best players having shorter careers. Let's make the game safer.
I remember when I worked at the other place and
there was a kind of a noteworthy show that had
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a football player that was one of these stop wearing dresses.
And my takeaway is, I want my football players to
play longer. I want Steph and Lebron. They still get
the best ratings in the NBA. I protect these amazing athletes,
you know. So to me, it's like, if you can
make sports faster, more like baseball with the pitch clock. Now,
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baseball has an advantage. They have a minor league system
where they can know it's test stuff. You know, other
sports can't do this. The NBA didn't have that relationship
with college basketball. But baseball test stuff all the time
in the miners and it's like, yeah, it works, let's
bring it upstairs.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
It's like, I'm sure you've heard chat GPT. Oh it's
going to take everybody's job. AI know the people who
understand chat GPT, they're going to end up taking your
job because they're working martyr and know how to work
around the margins.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
No, I think it's really a funny, funny start.
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Well, Duke heads into the final four is the betting favorite,
and their most remarkable player is a kid that should
still be in high schools. He's really I don't think
people quite. I think some people are, but he's eighteen
year old Cooper Flag. So against Arizona he was a
one man wrecking crew, thirty point seven assists, ball in
his hand, unstoppable force and Arizona is a really good team.
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And then against Alabama he was all over the boards,
like nine rebounds, playing defense, playing off ball. You know,
two variations, same kid, just turn eighteen years old, and
it's really remarkable. Our domestic basketball culture does not produce
Cooper Flag. We produce really talented guys that are immature
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and are not really well rounded and are not really
great at anything, just really really athletic and long and twitchy.
And that's great too, But international basketball is taking over
our league. Wemby Jokich Luca. Why they come in more mature,
more focused, and more skilled. They've played against older players.
It's not about the brand and the individual. It's about teamwork.
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And it sounds like a cliche, but Cooper Flag, our
domestic product, does not give us this. He is a
better version of Jason Tatum at this age. He's a
better defender than Jason Tatum was. I think he's probably
a better shooter at this point. Maybe not, but he's
like an international player. That's what he reminds me of.
He's an international player with a duke brand and a
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little nastiness to him. He can shoot, he can pass,
he's well rounded, he thinks the game. You just don't
get that with eighteen year olds from America playing basketball
that are this good, this skilled, this aggressive, and kind
of an international feel. So he like Jason Tatum. He
does everything well and some things very well. I'm not
sure what he does great, but that will develop again.
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He should be in high school right now. And you
know a classic domestic product is Jonathan kaminga the Warriors
who came over here to go to our college system
and learn how to play basketball. Four years in with
the Warriors, I'm not sure they trust him and I'm
not sure what he does well. He's just pre the
athletic and so when you watch Cooper Flag man, it's
just different. I would love to see him land in Miami, Utah,
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San Antonio, good GMS, good infrastructure, excellent coaches. He won't
be wasted. This kid deserves to. Let we say this
about quarterbacks all the time. He were worried about Kayla
Williams going to the Bears. They can't get quarterbacks, right.
He goes to Danny Ainge in Utah or pat Riley
and Eric Spolstra or Popovich. He's gonna be fine, and
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he'll be good anywhere, but he'll be great. I'll be
honest with you. Wemby and Cooper Flag, that's pretty good.
That's pretty good. Sauce Mark. Few watched Cooper flag when
Cooper was seventeen years old and to participated against Tea
USA before the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
He scrimmaged against US and he was ready to go
uh from the jump and went right at us. He
really understands defense and he impacts the game in a
big way on the defensive end. So yeah, he's gonna
he's gonna have a huge impact from on day one.
But it's gonna be one of those impacts like he
does everything well.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah. Uh. And again, generally, when the when the media
falls for somebody like Tiger Woods or Bryce Harper, you know,
uh in bope in in soccer, generally, we don't go
this crazy over everybody.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's just a very very unique player. And I'm here
in comparisons to certain people, his comp is pretty obvious
to me. He's Jason Tatum of the Celtics, where there's
just no real hole in his game. Doesn't mean he's
gonna be you know, out of the shoot that good.
But there I don't see. I don't see the weakness.
I mean again, NBA, you've got to really be able
to handle the ball. Uh. He gets everything else, So
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he's got I mean, I'm telling you, I'm trying to
think of the last college guy at eighteen that played
like this. I can't just not the way the game works.
He won't walk into the NBA. If he gets a
good coach, you get him in Utah, you get him
in Miami. This kid's average in eighteen twenty points as
a rookie. He's gonna be sensational player. And that's why
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Duke's favored. Jmck with a news.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
All right, let's start in the NFL with your favorite quarterback,
Aaron Rodgers. We're still waiting to find out what the
heck he's gonna do. He he likes the attention, that's
my guess. Russell Wilson Leannon in New York. So now
it feels like it's Pittsburgh or retirement for Rogers. I
guess you can keep your San Franz dreams still alive.
Since Purdy's deal's not done, but after meeting with the
Steelers last week, Mike Tomlin talked about the possibility of
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adding the four time MVP.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
He's a free agent. As you guys know, he came
to visit last Friday. We had a really productive day
He's been in this thing a long time. I've been
in this thing a long time. But there's no substitute
for you know, intimacy and spending time together and getting
to know one another in a non competitive environment. And
so that was really good. But I don't have any
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new updates in terms of where the process is. We'll
see where it leads us.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, he was playing catch with DK metcalf over the
weekend here at you see La. Yeah, that's something.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah, you see tom Lin in that video sweating bullets profusely.
Now I know they were in Florida, but is he sweating? Like,
what's it going to be like with Aaron Rodgers on
this team?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Oh my gosh? Or do we have a backup plan?
I don't think it might be.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
It does feel like to me if DK Metcalfe and
Aaron Rodgers are playing catch, he's thinking about something.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Okay, But Colin, what's the point of that? Well, hey man,
let's play catch. Run some routes for me.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Let me see if.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You're worthy of me being No, Now that's being good.
I think it's. Aaron lives in Malibu. Aaron's got time.
He works out in Thousand Oaks and he's sitting to
himself saying, hey, DK, you in town. Let's go out
for a few hours and play around. And I think
Aaron's talking himself into Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
It's never a.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Good thing, you know that, if you've got to talk
yourself into Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I think I think Aaron loves playing football and he
doesn't want to retire, and he's crossing his fingers that
the brock Printing negotiation goes poorly or that the Minnesota
Vikings change their minds. I think Ron, I think if
the Vikings offered, Aaron would be there today. If the
Niners offered, he'd be there today. I think Aaron's smart
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enough to know that Pittsburgh's a defensive coach, a battle
line that lost their left tackle, lost Nigee Harris, in
a division with.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Burrow and Lamar.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I don't think this is Aaron's first choice. And if
it wasn't my first choice, but I didn't want to retire,
I would go kick the tires. I have no problem
with what Aaron's doing. I think he's Aaron's telling us
that he wants the Niners and he wants Minnesota. He
will do Pittsburgh if it feels right now. Pittsburgh gave
Dk Metcalf so much money they don't have a ton
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for Aaron. And I also think Aaron has the right
to be paid reasonably. The Russell Wilson contract with the
Giants that is all tied to Yeah, and that's a
bad contract and Aaron's not going to sign for that
norse should he?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I just I cannot get behind the idea of two
years ago he needed a darkness retreat to find out
if he still wanted to play football.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
What is it now, Colin? Why is it always something?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Did he watch Brett Favre be a jerk if you will,
back in the day.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
With the Packers and the Jets, and then it was
a Viking.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
He's like, I.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Almost feel like he just likes his name in the headlines,
loves seeing TV shows talk about him.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I don't, I don't. I don't think he watches it
as much as he used to. I don't think he cares.
I think he loves football. Well, if he loves football,
some of the Steelers, what are you waiting for because
it's not it's fool's goal.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Well, then you don't love football.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Well, no, that's not true. I love broadcasting. I wouldn't
sign with a bad company. There's a lot of things.
Just because you love something shouldn't be goofy.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, but if I'm not here next year, you probably
would not love this job as much.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
You might walk away. We pans, who knows you might
walk away?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
The next story is the Raider is Colin boy a
lot of new faces in the building. Is they look
to create a winning culture in Sin City. They traded
for Geno Smith in the off season. You know, the
expectation is he's going to get an extension. Gino enters
the final year of his deal. Pete Carroll talked about
locking up his quarterback at the league meetings, saying the
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team is continuing to work on a long term deal.
Colin your thoughts on this Gino Smith situation? And I
should report that Ashton Genty is now the betting favorite
to land with the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Listen, I haven't thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
We know all the funny money. The bottom line is
you can pay Geno a lot, guarantee a lot, and
it'll be a two year deal maybe one. That's just
the way these deals work, So it doesn't you know,
we don't think Seattle's gonna pay him like Josh Allen
or Lamar Jackson, so it's fine again. He's an adult
on play action, which probably tells you why the Raider
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should go get a running back early. On play action.
Gino's a top six quarterback in the league. He's a
big guy who can throw darts if they have a
substantial run game. He's not a guy that's gonna come
from behind with no run game, sling at forty five times.
He'll make mistakes sole almost all the leads.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
So you're on board for Ashton Genty at six entirely
new backfield, Aston Genty and Gino Smith. Yeah, I am okay,
not my bag, but you know the Raiders think anyway.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Final story is to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Colin, I know you were watching this Saturday night the Lakers.
Oh I'm sorry this is Oh yeah, that was Saturday
night against the Memphis Grizzlies.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
They played well.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
JJ Reddick challenges big three Lebron, Luca and Reeves, and
they went off eighty five points from those three and
two eighty five assists.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
No, it was almost like that Chicago game. When you
watch the Lakers play, it's all about mindset. If Lebron
comes engaged with Luca. They're really really good team. They
don't all the time, like since Lebron's been back from
the injuries, averaging nineteen a.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Game, they're saving it for the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, but this was one of those games you yeah,
you could just tell it was like okay, and.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They need it tonight against Houston here at home.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Houston is read hot.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I kind of wanted to go to that, but I
had a long weekend. I'm exhausted. If you're in I
might try to get us tickets.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Houston tonight.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Houston Houston Lakers tonight. It's a big one, first seating.
Houston's two in the West.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
This dead is trying to catch.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Now that's interesting. I'll call you after the show.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
That's I'll let you know about.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
My man comes into town tomorrow. So I got one
night to have fun.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Hall pass action tonight maybe jmckle the.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
News, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
By the lie. J mack pointed out the Raiders are
the favorites to draft running back Ashton Genty. So here's
the thing is, I never buy into this. You can't
draft this position at this round. I've always said go
draft a kicker, they'll end up being your first or
second leading scorer. You can't draft a kicker. Belichick drafted kickers.
(25:08):
I never understood that argument. Rams went and got a
kid from Stanford. He's real good, helps wins games. I
don't get it. I don't have a problem. If you
go look since twenty seventeen, the last twelve running back
selected in the first round, there's not a lot of whiffs.
Rashad Penny was a whiff, but it was late first
round and all of them drafted in the top twelve.
Bjean Robbinson, Jamier Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Ezekiel
(25:32):
Elliott all good players. So here's the other thing. The
Raiders were last in rushing last year. Secondly, when Pete
Carroll won big in Seattle or USC, he had a
star running back. Third, if you're gonna go pay Chip
Kelly six million a year to be your OC, you
better prioritize your run game. So I think in this draft,
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when you get into the first round, especially in the
top twelve to fifteen picks, you take the best athlete available.
Now there's two athletes in this draft that are considered
elite athletes, Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter. There's an argument this
kid's the third best athlete. Go get him. Okay, it's
a division with Herbert and Mahomes and Andy Reid and
(26:14):
Sean Payton bow Nicks. How do you keep the ball
away from great offensive coaches and great quarterbacks. You run
the ball time of possession, take a lead, and that
then let Max Crosby feast. So you can't lean into
Geno Smith to out dual Herbert and Sean Payton and
Mahomes and Reed. You can't. But what Geno Smith is
(26:37):
really good at is play action. He's top six quarterback
in the league. Gino's a big, tall guy with a
good arm, and if you give him a run game.
And that's, by the way, the Raiders gave the Chiefs
trouble last year. So that's why I don't have to
love Gino, but I really love this fit for a
couple of years. And I don't have to love running
(26:57):
backs in the first round, but I think this is
a really good pick for the Pete Carroll has always
been of the mindset, I want a quarterback throwing on
play action, pass rush, good corners, run game, take leads,
and let your defensive front take over. With Max Crosby,
that's possible. So since twenty twenty two, Gino Smith on
(27:19):
play action think about this has a one zero six
passer rating. He's really good at that. He's a really
he's a bigger version of Kirk Cousins. You give him
a little play action, you give him an extra beat.
Geno and Kirk Cousins complete passes. That's what they do.
So I don't mind it at all. And this this idea,
you can't listen. If you're in a division with Andy
Reid and Jim Harball, Herbert Mahomes, Bo Nixon, Sean Payton.
(27:43):
You can't have Geno throwing forty eight times, but you
can take leads, run the clock out. That's that's how
you beat him. Anyway, Michael Parsons wants two hundred million
calling right wrong, top of the hour, that's what it says.
He wants to have over a two hundred million dollar
EXTENTI I told you, I told you what I do
(28:03):
with Micah Parsons. I'll talk about it round.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Well, that's a team player. If I've ever heard of one, huh,
give me two hundred million time.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well, I mean players want their money. It's okay, that's
a lot. If they gave him that, they would have
five hundred and seventy six million and three players.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
That's not going to work.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Well, you got the Yankees out here creating new bats
and the Cowboys are like, let's just load up on
three guys.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
It's just not smart, well, especially at all. Yeah, you
can do the top heavy thing for like a year.
The Rams did it for a year when they were
paying Jalen Ramsey, Stafford, Aaron Donald, Andrew Whitworth. There was
a time when the Rams had like four or five
guys making a ton. But let me tell you something,
after you got to get that ring, because after you don't.
(28:49):
If you don't get that ring, you got to start
hitting on draft picks and that and the Cowboys have
missed on too many draft picks. The Rams, who infrequently
miss have basically hit on every defensive draft pick the
life last two years. That has allowed their rebuild to
be one year, not three. So if you go top heavy,
you can win for a year or two. The Niners
(29:11):
got close, but it crashes hard. But you have to
have an elite front off.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Persons isn't in the same class as Aaron Donald. I'm sorry,
Aaron Donald was a game wrecord. You had to triple
team him sometimes, like Parsons is really good.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
But Colin two hundred milk.
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Speaker 5 (30:36):
Round one of the College Basketball Crown starts today on
FS one with Utah versus Butler at three eastern, George Washington,
Boise State at five thirty, Nebraska Arizona State at eight thirty,
and Georgetown Washington at eleven. The College Basketball Crown today
on FS one.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It's if you ever had something in life that seems
really obvious and you wonder why can't smarter people figure
this out? And the one I've talked about with friends
before is like during COVID. Within three weeks of COVID,
people in hospitals, whether there were surgeons or chiefs of staff,
knew that kids weren't showing up eighteen and under were
not showing up to emergency rooms. It was older people,
(31:18):
heavy set people. So it was like kids were safe.
Send them to school, put a shield up, wear a
mask for the teacher. Don't have kids not socializing crucial ages,
especially young kids from families that didn't have a lot
of money, who couldn't like do some homeschool stuff or
couldn't afford certain tutors. Like that was an obvious one,
(31:39):
Like you can think what you want about vaccines is
let kids go to school, fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh grade.
They were not in danger of this. That was obvious. Okay,
Like there's certain things. Here's another one. The G leagues
not good for the NBA. Since they started the G League,
there's about about a ten year run where the NBA
TV ratings are bad. Why because people watch what they
(32:00):
know CSI, Law and Order, Mission Impossible, all those dreadful
Housewives of Utah, New Jersey, New York, Orange County. They're awful,
but people know what they're getting. There's a formula. People
are busy, they're distracted, they watch what they know. Americans
love March madness. So this is fascinating. I've been on
(32:20):
this now four years the G League hurts the NBA.
If Jalen Green went to Carolina or Kentucky and had
success in the final four, he would be much more
popular than he is today. Now he would be good
either way, he'd be much more popular. He went to
a crappy Houston team. Nobody watched him for two years,
(32:41):
and now all of a sudden, he's great. Okay, Well,
the Lakers have Luca and the Warriors have Butler. Nobody's
watching Houston outside of Houston. I've seen the numbers, and
he's a great player. He's in LA tonight. He goes
to Carolina, Arizona. Go anywhere, Duke, it doesn't matter a Yukon.
He would be a household name. He's well known in Houston,
(33:01):
and Diehard's in the NBA. Listen to this. The most
followed March Madness stars for our women. These are the
most followed stars on Instagram. Paige Beckers, who, by the way,
in her fourth tournament and she manned up in her
(33:23):
fourth final four. We watch what we know. Number two
is a flaw. J Johnson again, experienced player, Hayley Van
Liz Juju Watkins unfortunately hurt. She's a sensational player and
the number five's a guy Cooper flag g League, out
of Sight, out of mind. Adam Silber set over the weekend.
(33:46):
He acknowledges our TV ratings are bad, but people like it.
People are going to games. Yeah, because the quality of
athletes in the NBA are amazing. But Duke players, Kentucky players,
Kansas players. So this drives me nuts. It's not hard
to figure gear out. The game's never been Jamack and
I talk about this, It's never been more skilled. You
got seven foot four guys now that can cross people
(34:08):
up off the dribble, and the talent's insane. But the
people watch CSI, Law and Order, they like formulas. So
men's basketball right now, college basketball is a turnstile where
women's college basketball is a familiar face from a top
ten program playing again and again. And I think the
greatest example was last year when Caitlyn Clark comes in
(34:32):
the league with Angel Reese and like Burden Magic, they
already had a rivalry. Form It didn't matter who side.
You took a lot of people like Caitlin, a lot
of people like Angel, it didn't matter you had a rivalry.
You had like a Michigan Ohio State, like microwavable rivalry.
That's what we're looking for. So the woman's draft. Last year,
in the WNBA draft, i'd heard of the first seven players.
(34:54):
I had not heard of any of the top five
players in the NBA draft. And by the way, those
NBA players drafted from Frank may be great. We watch
what we know. I've been on the air now thirty
years doing this stuff. My audience is baked in good luck.
If you're starting tomorrow with a new talk show going up,
it doesn't matter if you're better than me, smarter than me.
I've been doing this for people. Watch what they know.
(35:17):
And you can go around and look at all these
shows and all these movies and the Avengers admission possible,
Like I go to a Spielberg movie because I know
Spielberg gives me quality, and Scorsese and Christopher Nolan. There
may be a hot shot twenty one year old Princeton director.
It's going to take me a long time to figure
it out. Unless you're a movie file, somebody that sits
and watches movies all day.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
I mean, Colin.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
The only counter would be a lot of these women
in college basketball state. Because you can't leave early to
go make millions of dollars in the WNBA that they
don't pay well. So like Jalen Green's a great example man.
He was a dynamic high school player. He didn't want
to do college. You know, I don't want to go
to a campus for six months, go to class and
then be like peace, I'm out.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
To the NBA. It's a really tough but here they
do no.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
No. My knock in the NBA is you don't have
to love college basketball. Don't marginalize it. Let them do
the work for you. The NFL realizes the value of
Oklahoma Sooner football and Michigan football. The NBA is like,
we're gonna do it ourselves. And then they tried to
ignite league. That was a disaster. And my take is
(36:22):
use Duke, Arizona, Gonzaga, Carolina, these ukon these are wonderful programs. Villanova,
these fans are loyal. They will. I mean, if you're
a star at Villanova and your guys are playing, you'll
take the train, You'll go to watch the Knicks. You'll
become a paying customer, even if you like college more
than pro Now women don't have the option to do it,
And I get that. But my take is it's not
(36:45):
ideal that great players like Cooper Flag only last a year,
but take advantage of the year. And the other thing
about Jalen Green is people say, well the money, God,
how small do you have to Jalen Ground was Jalen
Green wasn't starving.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
He was eating.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So you can go make three hundred grand in the
G League. Do you know the value of marketing you
get playing for Duke? It could be close to thirty
million dollars after taxes three hundred grands one hundred and
fifty grand or untaxable free thirty million dollars of marketing.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
So you're talking me into it.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
It almost feels like the NBA should say, hey, you've
got to do one year in college.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
You just have to go.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Just one year because guess what, nil has changed the equation.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
You know, instead of sitting on.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
A bench in the NBA making your three million dollars
as a rookie, you can go to Indiana Duke and probably.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Make two million dollars. We were talking with.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Mick cronin last week, you know, off air, about what
he's paying this kid Dent and they landed him from
New Mexico. It's like he's getting that much money. Remember
Scoot Henderson, there was like a shoot Henderson wen't been
Yama debate. What does Scoot Henderson do with the Blazers
any have you heard the name?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
One example like don't He's another example of you get
these great players, coachings better. I mean, you eat better,
the coaching's better. I think at college campuses is healthier,
and you get so much free marketing. If you're in
that tri state region with Yukon basketball. I live there.
Ukon basketball is on television every day. Go to Yukon,
(38:12):
get all the free marketing.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I don't know if I gotta yelled at by Dan Hurly,
but that.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Being yell, he yells at reps more than players. So
it's just this idea that all these kids aren't getting paid.
These programs all have chefs, they get thirty pair of shoes.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
I'll just change a lot. In the last five years,
it really has.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And I just when I'm watching Cooper Flag, I'm like,
you think he'd be better playing for the l Paso Donuts.
You really think that that that's a better life for
Cooper Flag than playing a duke.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
So the best guy in high school basketball right now,
aj dubin C. I can't say his last name.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
He's going to BYU next year. That's awesome, it's phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
It is going to be a best team west of
the Mississippi. Maybe in like fifteen years. They're gonna be awesome. Now, yes, great,
and it's already.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
You can feel the momentum.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I read that about two weeks ago. It makes me
want to watch BYU. You know what's never gonna get
me to a TV? The G League. It's not gonna
I mean, there's a G League. I have, you know,
a business office after work, I go to the G
League plays like four steps from it. I've never walked
in the building.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Well, even though Brown's there, Lakers, my bad.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I just it's just so obvious that five most popular
college basketball players there are four women. Because they've been
around for a while now, they're great players. I'm not
saying that, but generally the most popular male skier or
male soccer player in America will be much more popular
usually historically than the most popular woman.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Serena Williams was very very unique. Women's tennis has always
been Billy Jean King, Chris Everett Martinez, Steffie graft It.
They've always been wildly popular. But no, I Jalen Green's
a great example of we all knew he was great.
Can you imagine if he went to UCLA got them
into the final four. You could not wait to watch
(39:56):
him play. I can't wait to watch Cooper flag via.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
Pro assume he goes to the right team.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Well, Zion with Zion shoe exploding. I'm watching Pelican's basketball
in like October. Sorry, it's interesting, Colin Wright, Colin wrong.
Top of next hour. I'll get to the Micah stuff.
Kelvin Samson stopping by for the Houston Cougars. My bracket
(40:21):
was doing really well until that Duke Arizona game.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
Interesting mentor to the bracket contest. How we do it?
I haven't seen the stats. Are you still winning?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I had a really good opening weekend. Well, I got
Auburn in Tennessee. No showed.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Michigan is what he does.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I was happy for Michigan State, but we kept saying,
you gotta be able to shoot threes. As Saint John's
found this out. If you play a bad half and
you're down eight to ten or something like that, if
you can't shoot a three. That's the difference. In the NBA,
you could be down twelve with three minutes to go.
It is not a big deal. So why when Calipari
lost that lead. It was shocking. It's hard to lose
(40:59):
a lead four minutes in college basketball. Michigan stayed at
one point yesterday, fell behind. They had like six open threes.
They clanked all of them, and three of them were open.
One down, hour two, headed here next live in La
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Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, Calvin Sampson, coach
(00:47):
of Houston in the Final four, we'll be joining us.
So it's actually a great, great weekend of sports. Baseball
was amazing, a little controversy in the Bronx, great college
basketball they had to fight in the NBA, and a
little bit of NFL news. But Jay Mac, we've got
our Final four and it's all number one seeds. Great teams. Yeah,
(01:11):
the four best teams. I don't think there's any question
about that. So it's Florida, Duke, Houston, and Auburn. And
yet somebody out there a lot of people out there
are saying, this is one of the most boring marches ever.
A boy, oh boy, this is what guys do. I
don't think women do this as much, although I can't
speak from experience. There's something about guys. They want you
(01:34):
to know that they heard the garage band first, or
they they really like mid major basketball and they're gonna
brag about it in the internet. They're called nerds. You
don't want to watch Duke in Houston. You don't want
to watch Cooper Flag and the most talented team in
a long time in college basketball offensively against the best
defensive team maybe ever in Houston. You don't want to
watch that. Kelvin Samson. They played. They hammered Tennessee, a
(01:56):
good Tennessee team, humiliated Tennessee. They got past Purdue, the
past Gonzaga, two of the top six programs in the country.
Mark fu said, the one team he didn't want to
face Houston, and now they faced Duke. You don't want
to watch that. You don't want to watch Florida and Auburn.
Y'all lectured me that Florida was gonna win the tournament.
Now you don't like them. You were smarter than everybody else.
(02:17):
Guys that in the garage band you told me, you
watch it, you knew it. Auburn Florida are the two
best teams. Didn't easily the best college basketball conference. I mean,
outside of Duke, nobody in the ACC won a game,
So you don't want to watch these teams. And by
the way, Duke has won sixteen to seventeen and Florida's
won sixteen to eighteen, Like they're the hottest teams. We
(02:39):
had a college football playoff Cinderella fan SMU Boise State, Indiana.
How'd that work out? You thought that was good sports?
I didn't. In fact, in the college football playoff era,
the lowest rated national championship game had one of those
Cinderellas Georgia sixty five TCU seven. I bet you liked
that too. Now, those of us with a social life
(03:01):
did not. We stopped watching mid second quarter. So these
are red hot teams. They're the best teams. They've been
challenged outside of Duke. And it's like these people in
the movie industry who want to convince you Shape of
Water was the best movie a woman falling in love
with a fish. They're really these weirdos. Yeah, I'm gonna
go with Christopher Nolan, Martin Scorsese, Spielberg, Mission Impossible, Oppenheimer. Yeah,
(03:27):
I'm gonna go with those, you know, which made seven
times the money of a woman falling in love with
a fish. But you know, I'm very artsy. I see
things you don't. I watch mid major basketball. Congratulations, I
went out with my wife. It was a good time
a couple of times during the tournament. Fun time, cocktails,
good dinner friends. I'm not watching Missouri Valley Conference basketball,
(03:48):
and I'm not going to pretend I care for SMU football. Rocks.
They can't compete with the big dogs. So this whole
thing about you, you keep telling me the ratings are up,
so obviously I'm among the group of people who like Duke,
who liked the SEC, which has really started paying attention
to basketball. I said this in January. I'm like, folks,
(04:11):
I don't know what you're watching, but SEC basketball is
noticeably better than Big ten in ACC basketball. Like, it's
not close. They got more shooters, they got more athletes.
The coaches are all well known. So Bruce Pearl on
four number one seeds. Sorry Drexel, Sorry, Lipscomb. Sorry, community colleges. Sorry,
(04:32):
we got four number ones. And here's Bruce Pearl.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I told our guys right now, we haven't bet the
team yet that I thought was better than us, and
that's why we're the overall number one seed and now
we're going to the final four. Were our four to
one seats, and I think the four teams that are advanced,
I think there are four best teams in the country
that doesn't obviously always happen.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay, So we have ourselves a really interesting situation in baseball,
and everybody's freaking out, and I think they're really freaking
out because it's the Yankees. If this was the Rays,
you know, or the Diamondbacks, it wouldn't be nearly the story.
So the Yankees used an MIT analyst, Aaron Lernhard. He's
(05:16):
a former Yankee analyst. There are a lot of fans
of the Yankees in New York and around the globe, frankly,
and they had a couple guys on the roster. Volpe
was struggling to hit, and so they did something totally
legal and it has been a massive home run. So
they moved shifted some of the weight in the bat
from the barrel closer to the label. So in baseball
(05:38):
there's a length restriction in a diameter restriction, and the
Yankees didn't break either. Roll baseball telligien, bat's got to
be this long and this big and diameter. It doesn't
tell you where you have to put the meat of
the bat. You could put it all in the handle
and it would look weird, but you can do that.
So the Yankees because of this are on a frenzy.
(06:00):
Everybody's hitting home runs. They're first in runs, home runs,
RBI's ops, they're number one and everything. And you know
what this is. It's peak Bill Belichick. He knows the
rule book better than you did. He knows it better
than the Ravens did, or the Colts did. The Colts,
by the way, we're piping in sound, which is illegal
in the NFL. But Belichick knew the rule book better.
(06:21):
So all the Yankees did, and MIT analysts, smart people
go there. Shifted weight from the barrel. They didn't make
the diameter illegal. They didn't change the length of it.
They just I mean slightly shifted it. Now, for the record,
not every batter needs it. A couple teams tried it
last year Aaron Judge is like, yeah, I'm doing fine
(06:44):
without it. Maybe you've noticed oh Oshoeo Tani, Mookie Bets,
Freddie Freeman. Not everybody's using it, but we've seen this
in golf and tennis. We've seen innovations. And my take
on sports is always been pushed the envelope. Let the governance,
the governing body, the FCC, the SEC, or Major League Baseball,
let them reel you back in like the tush push.
(07:07):
I got no problem with the creation of it. I
don't think it's terribly healthy. I don't think you should
be pushing quarterbacks into the line. Let everybody vote on it.
But give the Eagles credit for creating it. They created
it because they have a quarterback that can you know,
I mean six hundred and sixty pound leg presses, and
they had the best center in the last twenty years
in the NFL. So they're like, yeah, let's do it.
Let's just just automatically get two yards. It works. So
(07:30):
and I'll tell you the answer on this Yankee stuff
is never to complain and be rigid and be a traditionalist.
It's like one and done. In college basketball, John Calipari
is like, yeah, it's legal, I'm going for it. Mike
Skrzyzewski got stubborn, and then Shayzhevski admitted, yeah, I'm getting
beat by all these guys I'm passing on. Rigid didn't win.
(07:51):
It's like three pointers in the NBA Lakers were rigid
Warriors weren't. How that work out? It's like the portal,
the transfer portal in college football. Ohio State's like all
in Georgia, all in Clemson's like, nah, nah, it's a
little sketchy. How's that working for Clemson? They don't look
anything close to Ohio State, and they did four years ago.
(08:14):
So Ridgid's not the answer. I think in life and
in sports, sometimes you gotta take a swing, literally in baseball.
And again, if you go to ob Jay's magical catch
in New York, it's those gloves.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
He didn't do it with three fingers. He did it
with those receiver gloves, which were legal and developed over time.
So again, there's a famous Nike saying. When Phil Knightke
created a Nike he had this manifesto and one of
the things he said it was like number three or
four is always on offense. Apologize later. I don't care
(08:46):
if it's golfers, this is not kicking a golf ball.
It's taking a baseball bat. They didn't cheat on diameter,
they did not cheat on length, They did none of that.
They simply shifted weight for a couple of batters who
were hitting the ball off the handle. No problem. The
Dodgers with deferred payments, go ahead complain about it, or
(09:06):
adapt the Warriors, they're luxury tax payments, go ahead and
complain about it. The NBA eventually changed it. The Eagles
with a toush push, the Yankees with what they call
now the torpedo bat. I have no problem with it. Again,
this is not the Houston Astros, you know, banging on
a can. That's not what this is. People get upset
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with the Dodgers. Dodgers are smarter than you. The Yankees here,
they were smarter than everybody else.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Here's Aaron Boone, you know, trying to be the best
we can be. I mean, it's one of the things
that you know, goten pointed out. But you know, I
say to you guys all the time, we're trying to
win on the margins. We have a big organization that
are invested in a lot of different things. Where we're
trying to be better in every possible way. The reality
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is it's all within major league standards.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, I mean think about this. At one point, the
Tampa Bay Rays put a second basement in right field.
Then everybody eventually over time copied it. Now the governance
Major League Baseball said it's not good. It's keeping people
off the bases. We want more base runners and stolen bases.
So Rob Manfred said, Okay, we're going to take the
defensive shift away. But it was like Joe Madden was
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down in Tampa and eventually won a World Series in Chicago.
He's like, yeah, we're just going to put a second
basement in right field and we're going to move a
shortstop over to behind the bag, And everybody was like, Okay,
what's the difference here. It's innovation. We've seen it in golf,
We've seen it in tennis, we've seen it in baseball NBA,
and he's up to the league to figure out. Like
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the tush push, that's up to the league to figure out.
But every NFL team and baseball team and basketball team
and college basketball program, as long as you are doing
something that is legal. I looked it up this morning,
didn't cheat on length, didn't cheat on diameter. Murphy's the
manager of the Brewers, and he came out and he
just said, Hey, more offense. Good for the game. I
want my guys to be seeking any edge they can.
(11:07):
Doesn't bother me at all. So I thought it was
actually I thought it was like Beer League softball in
the Bronx. I thought it was actually funny. I'm like,
you know what, man, it say what you want it.
It's it's work, and it will be duplicated like Clemson
football is a great example. Like Clemson football and I
like that. Both swingny. But he's like, I don't want
to do this whole transfer portal. Well, watch Ohio State play.
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It doesn't mean you're sacrificing all the integrity or a program.
It means, you know what, we could use that really
good corner from Alabama and that left tackle from you know, Missouri.
Go get them.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
I'm curious what the turnaround time will be for all
these teams to copycat what the Yankees are doing. I
don't think it's going to be instantaneous, right.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
I don't think it's like that.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Three months we're gonna see bowling, pin bats, throughout the league.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And also no, because it's not for every batter. They
did this because of a batter or two in the
Yankees lineup that were hitting too many things apparently off
the handle, Bullpay who had kind of struggled, and they're
like okay, Like Aaron Judge is like, I don't need it.
I don't want it into my again. Baseball is one
of those sports, like golf, you have a lot of downtime.
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The last thing you want to do is screw with
OTAWNI or Aaron Judge or Freddie Freeman. They don't want
to they don't want to screw with anything. It's like
golfers changing their clubs like Tiger Woods did that, which
was very courageous. But generally there's some superstition in baseball
and golf and a lot of downtime. So I don't
think if you're Aaron Judge you should you should worry
about right.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I love that the architect of this it went to
Mi I t was a physics professor for like what
seven years.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Well, it's just like the Billy Bean story.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
He hires de Podesta, who was like an econ major
in the IVY League, and it's like this guy's going
to change baseball. Remember when he went into the room
with the old school dudes and get this guy out
of here. What's he talking about? Kind of genius level
stuff the Jonah Hill, Yes, Jonah Hill's character.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, so I this stuff's this is why sports is
great is by the way, the NFL had a concussion
issue and kind of turned the blind eye to it
and then kind of woke up one day and said,
you know what, it doesn't make sense to have our
best players having shorter careers. Let's make the game safer.
I remember when I worked at the other place and
there was a kind of a noteworthy show that had
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a football player that was one of these stop wearing dresses.
And my takeaway is, I want my football players to
play longer. I want Steph and Lebron. They still get
the best ratings in the NBA. I protect these amazing athletes,
you know. So to me, it's like, if you can
make sports faster, more like baseball with the pitch clock. Now,
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baseball has an advantage. They have a minor league system
where they can know it's test stuff. You know, other
sports can't do this. The NBA didn't have that relationship
with college basketball. But baseball test stuff all the time
in the miners and it's like, yeah, it works, let's
bring it upstairs.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
It's like, I'm sure you've heard chat GPT. Oh it's
going to take everybody's job. AI know the people who
understand chat GPT, they're going to end up taking your
job because they're working martyr and know how to work
around the margins.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
No, I think it's really a funny, funny start.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and Noone Easter non a em Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, Duke heads into the final four is the betting favorite,
and their most remarkable player is a kid that should
still be in high schools. He's really I don't think
people quite. I think some people are, but he's eighteen
year old Cooper Flag. So against Arizona he was a
one man wrecking crew, thirty point seven assists, ball in
his hand, unstoppable force and Arizona is a really good team.
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And then against Alabama he was all over the boards,
like nine rebounds, playing defense, playing off ball. You know,
two variations, same kid, just turn eighteen years old, and
it's really remarkable. Our domestic basketball culture does not produce
Cooper Flag. We produce really talented guys that are immature
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and are not really well rounded and are not really
great at anything, just really really athletic and long and twitchy.
And that's great too, But international basketball is taking over
our league. Wemby Jokich Luca. Why they come in more mature,
more focused, and more skilled. They've played against older players.
It's not about the brand and the individual. It's about teamwork.
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And it sounds like a cliche, but Cooper Flag, our
domestic product, does not give us this. He is a
better version of Jason Tatum at this age. He's a
better defender than Jason Tatum was. I think he's probably
a better shooter at this point. Maybe not, but he's
like an international player. That's what he reminds me of.
He's an international player with a duke brand and a
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little nastiness to him. He can shoot, he can pass,
he's well rounded, he thinks the game. You just don't
get that with eighteen year olds from America playing basketball
that are this good, this skilled, this aggressive, and kind
of an international feel. So he like Jason Tatum. He
does everything well and some things very well. I'm not
sure what he does great, but that will develop again.
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He should be in high school right now. And you
know a classic domestic product is Jonathan kaminga the Warriors
who came over here to go to our college system
and learn how to play basketball. Four years in with
the Warriors, I'm not sure they trust him and I'm
not sure what he does well. He's just pre the
athletic and so when you watch Cooper Flag man, it's
just different. I would love to see him land in Miami, Utah,
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San Antonio, good GMS, good infrastructure, excellent coaches. He won't
be wasted. This kid deserves to. Let we say this
about quarterbacks all the time. He were worried about Kayla
Williams going to the Bears. They can't get quarterbacks, right.
He goes to Danny Ainge in Utah or pat Riley
and Eric Spolstra or Popovich. He's gonna be fine, and
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he'll be good anywhere, but he'll be great. I'll be
honest with you. Wemby and Cooper Flag, that's pretty good.
That's pretty good. Sauce Mark. Few watched Cooper flag when
Cooper was seventeen years old and to participated against Tea
USA before the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
He scrimmaged against US and he was ready to go
uh from the jump and went right at us. He
really understands defense and he impacts the game in a
big way on the defensive end. So yeah, he's gonna
he's gonna have a huge impact from on day one.
But it's gonna be one of those impacts like he
does everything well.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah. Uh. And again, generally, when the when the media
falls for somebody like Tiger Woods or Bryce Harper, you know,
uh in bope in in soccer, generally, we don't go
this crazy over everybody.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's just a very very unique player. And I'm here
in comparisons to certain people, his comp is pretty obvious
to me. He's Jason Tatum of the Celtics, where there's
just no real hole in his game. Doesn't mean he's
gonna be you know, out of the shoot that good.
But there I don't see. I don't see the weakness.
I mean again, NBA, you've got to really be able
to handle the ball. Uh. He gets everything else, So
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he's got I mean, I'm telling you, I'm trying to
think of the last college guy at eighteen that played
like this. I can't just not the way the game works.
He won't walk into the NBA. If he gets a
good coach, you get him in Utah, you get him
in Miami. This kid's average in eighteen twenty points as
a rookie. He's gonna be sensational player. And that's why
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Duke's favored. Jmck with a news.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
All right, let's start in the NFL with your favorite quarterback,
Aaron Rodgers. We're still waiting to find out what the
heck he's gonna do. He he likes the attention, that's
my guess. Russell Wilson Leannon in New York. So now
it feels like it's Pittsburgh or retirement for Rogers. I
guess you can keep your San Franz dreams still alive.
Since Purdy's deal's not done, but after meeting with the
Steelers last week, Mike Tomlin talked about the possibility of
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adding the four time MVP.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
He's a free agent. As you guys know, he came
to visit last Friday. We had a really productive day
He's been in this thing a long time. I've been
in this thing a long time. But there's no substitute
for you know, intimacy and spending time together and getting
to know one another in a non competitive environment. And
so that was really good. But I don't have any
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new updates in terms of where the process is. We'll
see where it leads us.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, he was playing catch with DK metcalf over the
weekend here at you see La. Yeah, that's something.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah, you see tom Lin in that video sweating bullets profusely.
Now I know they were in Florida, but is he sweating? Like,
what's it going to be like with Aaron Rodgers on
this team?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Oh my gosh? Or do we have a backup plan?
I don't think it might be.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
It does feel like to me if DK Metcalfe and
Aaron Rodgers are playing catch, he's thinking about something.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Okay, But Colin, what's the point of that? Well, hey man,
let's play catch. Run some routes for me.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Let me see if.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You're worthy of me being No, Now that's being good.
I think it's. Aaron lives in Malibu. Aaron's got time.
He works out in Thousand Oaks and he's sitting to
himself saying, hey, DK, you in town. Let's go out
for a few hours and play around. And I think
Aaron's talking himself into Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
It's never a.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Good thing, you know that, if you've got to talk
yourself into Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I think I think Aaron loves playing football and he
doesn't want to retire, and he's crossing his fingers that
the brock Printing negotiation goes poorly or that the Minnesota
Vikings change their minds. I think Ron, I think if
the Vikings offered, Aaron would be there today. If the
Niners offered, he'd be there today. I think Aaron's smart
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enough to know that Pittsburgh's a defensive coach, a battle
line that lost their left tackle, lost Nigee Harris, in
a division with.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Burrow and Lamar.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I don't think this is Aaron's first choice. And if
it wasn't my first choice, but I didn't want to retire,
I would go kick the tires. I have no problem
with what Aaron's doing. I think he's Aaron's telling us
that he wants the Niners and he wants Minnesota. He
will do Pittsburgh if it feels right now. Pittsburgh gave
Dk Metcalf so much money they don't have a ton
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for Aaron. And I also think Aaron has the right
to be paid reasonably. The Russell Wilson contract with the
Giants that is all tied to Yeah, and that's a
bad contract and Aaron's not going to sign for that
norse should he?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I just I cannot get behind the idea of two
years ago he needed a darkness retreat to find out
if he still wanted to play football.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
What is it now, Colin? Why is it always something?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Did he watch Brett Favre be a jerk if you will,
back in the day.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
With the Packers and the Jets, and then it was
a Viking.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
He's like, I.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Almost feel like he just likes his name in the headlines,
loves seeing TV shows talk about him.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I don't, I don't. I don't think he watches it
as much as he used to. I don't think he cares.
I think he loves football. Well, if he loves football,
some of the Steelers, what are you waiting for because
it's not it's fool's goal.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Well, then you don't love football.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Well, no, that's not true. I love broadcasting. I wouldn't
sign with a bad company. There's a lot of things.
Just because you love something shouldn't be goofy.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, but if I'm not here next year, you probably
would not love this job as much.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
You might walk away. We pans, who knows you might
walk away?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
The next story is the Raider is Colin boy a
lot of new faces in the building. Is they look
to create a winning culture in Sin City. They traded
for Geno Smith in the off season. You know, the
expectation is he's going to get an extension. Gino enters
the final year of his deal. Pete Carroll talked about
locking up his quarterback at the league meetings, saying the
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team is continuing to work on a long term deal.
Colin your thoughts on this Gino Smith situation? And I
should report that Ashton Genty is now the betting favorite
to land with the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Listen, I haven't thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
We know all the funny money. The bottom line is
you can pay Geno a lot, guarantee a lot, and
it'll be a two year deal maybe one. That's just
the way these deals work, So it doesn't you know,
we don't think Seattle's gonna pay him like Josh Allen
or Lamar Jackson, so it's fine again. He's an adult
on play action, which probably tells you why the Raider
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should go get a running back early. On play action.
Gino's a top six quarterback in the league. He's a
big guy who can throw darts if they have a
substantial run game. He's not a guy that's gonna come
from behind with no run game, sling at forty five times.
He'll make mistakes sole almost all the leads.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
So you're on board for Ashton Genty at six entirely
new backfield, Aston Genty and Gino Smith. Yeah, I am okay,
not my bag, but you know the Raiders think anyway.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Final story is to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Colin, I know you were watching this Saturday night the Lakers.
Oh I'm sorry this is Oh yeah, that was Saturday
night against the Memphis Grizzlies.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
They played well.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
JJ Reddick challenges big three Lebron, Luca and Reeves, and
they went off eighty five points from those three and
two eighty five assists.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
No, it was almost like that Chicago game. When you
watch the Lakers play, it's all about mindset. If Lebron
comes engaged with Luca. They're really really good team. They
don't all the time, like since Lebron's been back from
the injuries, averaging nineteen a.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Game, they're saving it for the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, but this was one of those games you yeah,
you could just tell it was like okay, and.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They need it tonight against Houston here at home.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Houston is read hot.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I kind of wanted to go to that, but I
had a long weekend. I'm exhausted. If you're in I
might try to get us tickets.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Houston tonight.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Houston Houston Lakers tonight. It's a big one, first seating.
Houston's two in the West.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
This dead is trying to catch.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Now that's interesting. I'll call you after the show.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
That's I'll let you know about.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
My man comes into town tomorrow. So I got one
night to have fun.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Hall pass action tonight maybe jmckle the.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
News, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
By the lie. J mack pointed out the Raiders are
the favorites to draft running back Ashton Genty. So here's
the thing is, I never buy into this. You can't
draft this position at this round. I've always said go
draft a kicker, they'll end up being your first or
second leading scorer. You can't draft a kicker. Belichick drafted kickers.
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I never understood that argument. Rams went and got a
kid from Stanford. He's real good, helps wins games. I
don't get it. I don't have a problem. If you
go look since twenty seventeen, the last twelve running back
selected in the first round, there's not a lot of whiffs.
Rashad Penny was a whiff, but it was late first
round and all of them drafted in the top twelve.
Bjean Robbinson, Jamier Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Ezekiel
(25:32):
Elliott all good players. So here's the other thing. The
Raiders were last in rushing last year. Secondly, when Pete
Carroll won big in Seattle or USC, he had a
star running back. Third, if you're gonna go pay Chip
Kelly six million a year to be your OC, you
better prioritize your run game. So I think in this draft,
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when you get into the first round, especially in the
top twelve to fifteen picks, you take the best athlete available.
Now there's two athletes in this draft that are considered
elite athletes, Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter. There's an argument this
kid's the third best athlete. Go get him. Okay, it's
a division with Herbert and Mahomes and Andy Reid and
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Sean Payton bow Nicks. How do you keep the ball
away from great offensive coaches and great quarterbacks. You run
the ball time of possession, take a lead, and that
then let Max Crosby feast. So you can't lean into
Geno Smith to out dual Herbert and Sean Payton and
Mahomes and Reed. You can't. But what Geno Smith is
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really good at is play action. He's top six quarterback
in the league. Gino's a big, tall guy with a
good arm, and if you give him a run game.
And that's, by the way, the Raiders gave the Chiefs
trouble last year. So that's why I don't have to
love Gino, but I really love this fit for a
couple of years. And I don't have to love running
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backs in the first round, but I think this is
a really good pick for the Pete Carroll has always
been of the mindset, I want a quarterback throwing on
play action, pass rush, good corners, run game, take leads,
and let your defensive front take over. With Max Crosby,
that's possible. So since twenty twenty two, Gino Smith on
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play action think about this has a one zero six
passer rating. He's really good at that. He's a really
he's a bigger version of Kirk Cousins. You give him
a little play action, you give him an extra beat.
Geno and Kirk Cousins complete passes. That's what they do.
So I don't mind it at all. And this this idea,
you can't listen. If you're in a division with Andy
Reid and Jim Harball, Herbert Mahomes, Bo Nixon, Sean Payton.
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You can't have Geno throwing forty eight times, but you
can take leads, run the clock out. That's that's how
you beat him. Anyway, Michael Parsons wants two hundred million
calling right wrong, top of the hour, that's what it says.
He wants to have over a two hundred million dollar
EXTENTI I told you, I told you what I do
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with Micah Parsons. I'll talk about it round.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Well, that's a team player. If I've ever heard of one, huh,
give me two hundred million time.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well, I mean players want their money. It's okay, that's
a lot. If they gave him that, they would have
five hundred and seventy six million and three players.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
That's not going to work.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Well, you got the Yankees out here creating new bats
and the Cowboys are like, let's just load up on
three guys.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
It's just not smart, well, especially at all. Yeah, you
can do the top heavy thing for like a year.
The Rams did it for a year when they were
paying Jalen Ramsey, Stafford, Aaron Donald, Andrew Whitworth. There was
a time when the Rams had like four or five
guys making a ton. But let me tell you something,
after you got to get that ring, because after you don't.
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If you don't get that ring, you got to start
hitting on draft picks and that and the Cowboys have
missed on too many draft picks. The Rams, who infrequently
miss have basically hit on every defensive draft pick the
life last two years. That has allowed their rebuild to
be one year, not three. So if you go top heavy,
you can win for a year or two. The Niners
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got close, but it crashes hard. But you have to
have an elite front off.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Persons isn't in the same class as Aaron Donald. I'm sorry,
Aaron Donald was a game wrecord. You had to triple
team him sometimes, like Parsons is really good.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
But Colin two hundred milk.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
By the way, I'm gonna tease you something. You're not
gonna believe this. I have a story the biggest stars
in March Madness. You're gonna be shocked by this. This
is really interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
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Speaker 5 (30:36):
Round one of the College Basketball Crown starts today on
FS one with Utah versus Butler at three eastern, George Washington,
Boise State at five thirty, Nebraska Arizona State at eight thirty,
and Georgetown Washington at eleven. The College Basketball Crown today
on FS one.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It's if you ever had something in life that seems
really obvious and you wonder why can't smarter people figure
this out? And the one I've talked about with friends
before is like during COVID. Within three weeks of COVID,
people in hospitals, whether there were surgeons or chiefs of staff,
knew that kids weren't showing up eighteen and under were
not showing up to emergency rooms. It was older people,
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heavy set people. So it was like kids were safe.
Send them to school, put a shield up, wear a
mask for the teacher. Don't have kids not socializing crucial ages,
especially young kids from families that didn't have a lot
of money, who couldn't like do some homeschool stuff or
couldn't afford certain tutors. Like that was an obvious one,
(31:39):
Like you can think what you want about vaccines is
let kids go to school, fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh grade.
They were not in danger of this. That was obvious. Okay,
Like there's certain things. Here's another one. The G leagues
not good for the NBA. Since they started the G League,
there's about about a ten year run where the NBA
TV ratings are bad. Why because people watch what they
(32:00):
know CSI, Law and Order, Mission Impossible, all those dreadful
Housewives of Utah, New Jersey, New York, Orange County. They're awful,
but people know what they're getting. There's a formula. People
are busy, they're distracted, they watch what they know. Americans
love March madness. So this is fascinating. I've been on
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this now four years the G League hurts the NBA.
If Jalen Green went to Carolina or Kentucky and had
success in the final four, he would be much more
popular than he is today. Now he would be good
either way, he'd be much more popular. He went to
a crappy Houston team. Nobody watched him for two years,
(32:41):
and now all of a sudden, he's great. Okay, Well,
the Lakers have Luca and the Warriors have Butler. Nobody's
watching Houston outside of Houston. I've seen the numbers, and
he's a great player. He's in LA tonight. He goes
to Carolina, Arizona. Go anywhere, Duke, it doesn't matter a Yukon.
He would be a household name. He's well known in Houston,
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and Diehard's in the NBA. Listen to this. The most
followed March Madness stars for our women. These are the
most followed stars on Instagram. Paige Beckers, who, by the way,
in her fourth tournament and she manned up in her
(33:23):
fourth final four. We watch what we know. Number two
is a flaw. J Johnson again, experienced player, Hayley Van
Liz Juju Watkins unfortunately hurt. She's a sensational player and
the number five's a guy Cooper flag g League, out
of Sight, out of mind. Adam Silber set over the weekend.
(33:46):
He acknowledges our TV ratings are bad, but people like it.
People are going to games. Yeah, because the quality of
athletes in the NBA are amazing. But Duke players, Kentucky players,
Kansas players. So this drives me nuts. It's not hard
to figure gear out. The game's never been Jamack and
I talk about this, It's never been more skilled. You
got seven foot four guys now that can cross people
(34:08):
up off the dribble, and the talent's insane. But the
people watch CSI, Law and Order, they like formulas. So
men's basketball right now, college basketball is a turnstile where
women's college basketball is a familiar face from a top
ten program playing again and again. And I think the
greatest example was last year when Caitlyn Clark comes in
(34:32):
the league with Angel Reese and like Burden Magic, they
already had a rivalry. Form It didn't matter who side.
You took a lot of people like Caitlin, a lot
of people like Angel, it didn't matter you had a rivalry.
You had like a Michigan Ohio State, like microwavable rivalry.
That's what we're looking for. So the woman's draft. Last year,
in the WNBA draft, i'd heard of the first seven players.
(34:54):
I had not heard of any of the top five
players in the NBA draft. And by the way, those
NBA players drafted from Frank may be great. We watch
what we know. I've been on the air now thirty
years doing this stuff. My audience is baked in good luck.
If you're starting tomorrow with a new talk show going up,
it doesn't matter if you're better than me, smarter than me.
I've been doing this for people. Watch what they know.
(35:17):
And you can go around and look at all these
shows and all these movies and the Avengers admission possible,
Like I go to a Spielberg movie because I know
Spielberg gives me quality, and Scorsese and Christopher Nolan. There
may be a hot shot twenty one year old Princeton director.
It's going to take me a long time to figure
it out. Unless you're a movie file, somebody that sits
and watches movies all day.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
I mean, Colin.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
The only counter would be a lot of these women
in college basketball state. Because you can't leave early to
go make millions of dollars in the WNBA that they
don't pay well. So like Jalen Green's a great example man.
He was a dynamic high school player. He didn't want
to do college. You know, I don't want to go
to a campus for six months, go to class and
then be like peace, I'm out.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
To the NBA. It's a really tough but here they
do no.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
No. My knock in the NBA is you don't have
to love college basketball. Don't marginalize it. Let them do
the work for you. The NFL realizes the value of
Oklahoma Sooner football and Michigan football. The NBA is like,
we're gonna do it ourselves. And then they tried to
ignite league. That was a disaster. And my take is
(36:22):
use Duke, Arizona, Gonzaga, Carolina, these ukon these are wonderful programs. Villanova,
these fans are loyal. They will. I mean, if you're
a star at Villanova and your guys are playing, you'll
take the train, You'll go to watch the Knicks. You'll
become a paying customer, even if you like college more
than pro Now women don't have the option to do it,
And I get that. But my take is it's not
(36:45):
ideal that great players like Cooper Flag only last a year,
but take advantage of the year. And the other thing
about Jalen Green is people say, well the money, God,
how small do you have to Jalen Ground was Jalen
Green wasn't starving.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
He was eating.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So you can go make three hundred grand in the
G League. Do you know the value of marketing you
get playing for Duke? It could be close to thirty
million dollars after taxes three hundred grands one hundred and
fifty grand or untaxable free thirty million dollars of marketing.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
So you're talking me into it.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
It almost feels like the NBA should say, hey, you've
got to do one year in college.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
You just have to go.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Just one year because guess what, nil has changed the equation.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
You know, instead of sitting on.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
A bench in the NBA making your three million dollars
as a rookie, you can go to Indiana Duke and probably.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Make two million dollars. We were talking with.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Mick cronin last week, you know, off air, about what
he's paying this kid Dent and they landed him from
New Mexico. It's like he's getting that much money. Remember
Scoot Henderson, there was like a shoot Henderson wen't been
Yama debate. What does Scoot Henderson do with the Blazers
any have you heard the name?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
One example like don't He's another example of you get
these great players, coachings better. I mean, you eat better,
the coaching's better. I think at college campuses is healthier,
and you get so much free marketing. If you're in
that tri state region with Yukon basketball. I live there.
Ukon basketball is on television every day. Go to Yukon,
(38:12):
get all the free marketing.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
I don't know if I gotta yelled at by Dan Hurly,
but that.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Being yell, he yells at reps more than players. So
it's just this idea that all these kids aren't getting paid.
These programs all have chefs, they get thirty pair of shoes.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
I'll just change a lot. In the last five years,
it really has.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And I just when I'm watching Cooper Flag, I'm like,
you think he'd be better playing for the l Paso Donuts.
You really think that that that's a better life for
Cooper Flag than playing a duke.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
So the best guy in high school basketball right now,
aj dubin C. I can't say his last name.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
He's going to BYU next year. That's awesome, it's phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
It is going to be a best team west of
the Mississippi. Maybe in like fifteen years. They're gonna be awesome. Now, yes, great,
and it's already.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
You can feel the momentum.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I read that about two weeks ago. It makes me
want to watch BYU. You know what's never gonna get
me to a TV? The G League. It's not gonna
I mean, there's a G League. I have, you know,
a business office after work, I go to the G
League plays like four steps from it. I've never walked
in the building.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Well, even though Brown's there, Lakers, my bad.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I just it's just so obvious that five most popular
college basketball players there are four women. Because they've been
around for a while now, they're great players. I'm not
saying that, but generally the most popular male skier or
male soccer player in America will be much more popular
usually historically than the most popular woman.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Serena Williams was very very unique. Women's tennis has always
been Billy Jean King, Chris Everett Martinez, Steffie graft It.
They've always been wildly popular. But no, I Jalen Green's
a great example of we all knew he was great.
Can you imagine if he went to UCLA got them
into the final four. You could not wait to watch
(39:56):
him play. I can't wait to watch Cooper flag via.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
Pro assume he goes to the right team.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Well, Zion with Zion shoe exploding. I'm watching Pelican's basketball
in like October. Sorry, it's interesting, Colin Wright, Colin wrong.
Top of next hour. I'll get to the Micah stuff.
Kelvin Samson stopping by for the Houston Cougars. My bracket
(40:21):
was doing really well until that Duke Arizona game.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
Interesting mentor to the bracket contest. How we do it?
I haven't seen the stats. Are you still winning?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I had a really good opening weekend. Well, I got
Auburn in Tennessee. No showed.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Michigan is what he does.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I was happy for Michigan State, but we kept saying,
you gotta be able to shoot threes. As Saint John's
found this out. If you play a bad half and
you're down eight to ten or something like that, if
you can't shoot a three. That's the difference. In the NBA,
you could be down twelve with three minutes to go.
It is not a big deal. So why when Calipari
lost that lead. It was shocking. It's hard to lose
(40:59):
a lead four minutes in college basketball. Michigan stayed at
one point yesterday, fell behind. They had like six open threes.
They clanked all of them, and three of them were open.
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