3 & Out - Deshaun Watson was a swing and a miss, 49ers and Brandon Aiyuk, Jets buyout 170 employees

John dives into the comments made from Browns owner Jimmy Haslem saying that the signing of Deshaun Watson was a big swing and a miss, and talks about if he thinks Watson will ever play another snap in the NFL. Next, John discusses the latest with the 49ers and Brandon Aiyuk and how big of a mistake it was to re-sign Aiyuk to a contract extension last season.

Lastly, John answers your questions during this episode's mailbag segment.

5:29 - Owners meeting update

12:29 - John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan

17:46 - Steelers and Mike Tomlin

26:16 - Update on the Colts

32:38 - Jets clean house

36:32 - International Games

43:22 - Vikings looked into Rodgers

50:47 - Mailbag

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Hopefully everyone is having a great day. I'm John. This
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talking a little football. The National Football League owners meetings,
a lot of stuff coming out. Jimmy Haslin, he just
acknowledged the Shawn Watson's career over John Lynch, Mike Tomlin,
Andrew Locke. Lot going on in the football world, a
lot of comments, a lot of headlines. Woody Johnson trying
to fire everyone in his organization, but willing to give

(00:47):
out some golden parachutes to some depending on how long
you've been there. So we will dive into it all
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So if I owned a team, I would not take
the Jerry Jones approach. I would only speak when it
was kind of mandated that I speak, like at these
owners meetings when you really can't hide, or after a
monumental decision for the organization, a hiring of a coach,

(03:51):
a firing of a coach, even a big signing of
a player, like ultimately, that's why I pay my GM
and the head coach millions of dollars. And I gave
Jimmy Haslam credit. When Miles Garrett demanded his trade and
who's represented by Clutch and Rich Paul, and they wanted
a one on one meeting with Jimmy Haslam, Jimmy Haslm

(04:12):
simply told him meet with my GM. He's in charge now. Ultimately,
in a weird way at all kind of work because
Miles Garrett got a historic contract. But I do think
for a guy that has, you know, a pass, that's
more than questionable. With Flying Jay and the trucking company
who's had a disastrous ownership, there is no disputing that

(04:35):
no owner has spent more actual cash than Jimmy Haslm
over these last four years. You know, now, clearly that
hasn't equated into dominating the NFL. But it's not from
a lack of cutting checks. He is doing things that
a lot of teams take a lot of shit in
this league. Hell, Jerry Jones, who is an extremely wealthy man,

(04:57):
is often criticized for sneaky pay some of his top
guys but not spending as much cash as other owners.
And Jimmy Haslam spares no expense when it comes to
his football team, specifically the players. Now, I remember reading
an article within the last month, or maybe it was
within the last couple months that said, you can't always

(05:17):
buy your way to championships. Obviously, culture, the right coaching,
the right players who you're actually paying really matters. So
there are a lot of variables to this. But you know,
it's pretty rare that you get a microphone in front
of an owner, a guy that you have on your
current team, who you are paying a lot of money,
even if it is an epic all time disaster, that

(05:39):
you get them to be honest, that you get them
to be candid, because let's face it, you know, we
use the term coach speak a lot when coaches just
basically say nothing. Yet they're talking a lot. It's like
he just talked for fifteen minutes. I don't think he
said anything of value, and they're good at it, and
I don't ever blame them for doing it. In owners
in GM do the same thing. Jimmy Haslam came out

(06:02):
today and said, in regards to Deshaun Watson, quote, it
was a big swing and a miss. I was like, damn.
Even though every human alive, whether you're in Cleveland, Ohio,
whether you're in Scottsdale, Arizona, whether you were in the
in Dubai, if you fall football, you know that Deshaun

(06:22):
Watson trade contract has been an all time disaster. But
usually they just give you a BS. Listen, we're gonna
keep trying to add to the football team. Deshawn's doing
everything possible to rehab and get his achilles right, and
you know he has the right attitude and just all
all the BS cliche stuff is typically what I would

(06:43):
have expected. If you told me Jimmy Haslam today at
the owners meetings is going to be asked about Deshaun Watson,
I would not have expected this. And you know what
we have to acknowledge because I think with this, Deshaun
Watson will never play another game for the Cleveland Browns.
His career for the Cleveland Browns is over, because I
don't think you say a comment like this without basically

(07:06):
acknowledging like this thing is a rap. Obviously, we can't
cut him because it accelerates the contract. But he's got
a torn achilles. We never plan on making him our
quarterback again. And the ninety million plus we owe him
we will pay over the life of the next couple
of years. And it is what it is, and over
the next couple of years he will be I'm sure

(07:26):
released from the Cleveland Browns, whether that's twenty six or
twenty seven. I'd even go as far to say I
don't think Deshaun Watson will ever play in the NFL again.
And if you've listened to me long enough, you know
I'm not some moral high horse guy when it comes
to the private sector, whether that's whatever industry you work
in specifically. Obviously I talk a lot about the NFL,

(07:49):
like the job of an NFL GM and an NFL
head coach is not to teach society life lessons. There
have been a lot of bad guys qaestionable characters who
have played a lot in the NFL. Why because they
could play, and that is the job of a team
to get the best players possible. That gives you the

(08:10):
best chance to win. But the moment, you can't play.
And to Shaun's clearly proven the last couple of years
he can no longer play at a high level. Honestly,
he's awful. Like he's objectively one of the worst players
his time in Cleveland that we've seen in the NFL
for decades. Now, you factor in extensive injury history shoulder achilles,

(08:31):
then you factor in the baggage off the field. I
don't think he ever gets signed in the NFL again,
because if he had been a high level player and
became available, you would be naive and ignorant to think
a lot of teams wouldn't line up to acquire a quarterback. Right.
That's why the Cleveland Browns gave him two hundred and
thirty million dollars because they thought they were getting a

(08:53):
star player from Houston. All the stuff off the field
was being discussed, what was out there didn't matter, They
didn't care. And then Deshaun's like, I'm not going to Cleveland,
and they said what will cost you, and they gave
him the contract terms and Jimmy HASLM gave it to him.
But the reason this contract has been a disaster. He's
awful and now he's injured. And now to the rest

(09:16):
of the NFL. I think he's untouchable. When you factor
in just the toxic nature of his name, you just say,
Deshaun Watson an NFL fanals, but he can't play. It's
the reason a lot of guys with questionable off the
field situations, whether they are guilty in the court of

(09:36):
law or not, that's not the NFL's job. This isn't
the Justice department. Honestly, if you are a free man walking,
they don't give a shit. If they think you're a
high level player. It's been proven over and over and over,
and it will continue to be proven over and over
moving forward. If you are a high impactful, talented guy,

(09:56):
you were gonna get countless shots. Deshaun Watson no longer is.
And when I think you factor in the baggage and
the toxicity that he brings moving forward, I think his
NFL career is done. And I don't throw that out lightly.
Like I said, zero moral stance coming here. It's just
simple of like his production to baggage talent rate is

(10:20):
all out of whack, and there's gonna be no way
to prove it because clearly he's never playing another snap
for Cleveland. So I think we have seen the end
of Sean Watson, John Lyncha, Kyle Shanahan. One the coaches
photo came out today. He saw a lot of smiles.
You got McVeigh, huge smile. Andy looks happy, Jim Harbaugh
looks like he just hit the lottery. Just a lot

(10:42):
of good vibes. Off season, not much going on. These
dudes are in Florida. They're all flying private jets or
first class there. Mike Tomlin's sweating his ass off, so
you know it's good weather, especially for these guys coming
out of cold weather cities. Yet Kyle Shanahan looks like
someone just stole his dog. I mean, looks miserable. And

(11:04):
I was thinking about this today. By all reports and
all accounts, as Brandon Ayyuk will not be traded by
tomorrow when they owe him a large sum of money.
I think it's like twenty five plus million dollars give
or take, and it's pretty clear that they wanted to
trade him, that they went into this offseason hoping someone
would give him something of value where they could unload

(11:26):
this money, and I started thinking, like, I just got married.
Brandon night Yuk was signed right before the season started,
so basically September, October, November December. The forty nine Ers
did not make the playoffs, so starting in January and
by the combine, that's five months if you count January
by the combine. It was reported and John Lynch did

(11:49):
not push back of like, yeah, we'll trade him, like
we're open, we're listening to everybody. If in five months
and they just gave this guy a massive contract beside Nick,
I think it's the most guaranteed money they'd ever given
to a player, seventy five plus million dollars, guy they
drafted just got married. If in five months, I'm like, yeah,

(12:10):
I'm telling people, yeah, it wouldn't be I'd be open
to a divorce. That'd be a problem, and that'd be
a reflection of like what were you doing in the
first place. So the forty nine Ers who had this
back and forth with Brandon Ayuk after being on this
rookie contract, essentially in my analogy dating for a long time.

(12:31):
Why wouldn't you have just pulled the trigger and traded
him before the draft? Like, what could have happened? Did
it get that weird and toxic? Once you gave him
the money? Kyle had to kick him out of a
practice for wearing the wrong clothes, but like that is
enough to just be totally out on the guy. I
don't quite understand how a mistake like this could happen,

(12:51):
and clearly they view it as a mistake. This is
not an opinion, because you would not even after the
injury of Like, listen, we believe in this guy one
of our core players. Like the way they talk about
Nick Bosa or Fred Warner or George Kittle, they don't
ever talk like that yet Brandon Ayuk. They immediately treated
like most NFL players are treated, like, yeah, we get

(13:12):
rid of them for the right price. You just gave
this guy seventy five million dollars. I don't quite get it. Listen,
some mistakes, the Trey Lance thing. He's still not signed
to a team. It's been well documented. Awful decision, a
lot of variables playing apart COVID's going on no season.
They took a swing backfired. They got very lucky to

(13:32):
pivot off that like that happens. We've seen a lot
of teams make awful decisions in the draft. The Jets
diad was Aq Wilson, right news on what is third
team in three years? Justin Fields, Mac Jones. All these
guys are on different teams, So like you'd be like,
that's even Trevor Lawrence who got paid two hundred million dollars,
most of us would argue is even that good? And
I think the jury is definitely still out. But Brandon

(13:56):
Ayuk was a guy you drafted in the first round,
a guy that you had been with four years, won
a lot of games with, and then five months after
giving him a historic contract, you're like, this sucks. When
we went out of this business and listen, I think
it's always easy to criticize these situations, and it was

(14:16):
easy to criticize last year, which I did a lot.
I thought they never should have paid him a lot
of money, mainly because he had just got seventy five balls,
which was a career high. It's like guys in your
offense paying him what top receivers are gonna get. It's
never gonna work. It's always gonna be You're not gonna

(14:37):
have one hundred catch guy. That's not the way your
team's built, and most specifically, your head coach, who's the coordinator,
runs an offense. So doing a deal with him like
this from a financial standpoint, even separate from however weird
it got off the field and the injury didn't make
football sense. But what could have happened within five months

(14:58):
where you're like, yeah, we just were really into this
guy and they can say whatever they want now he's
still our guy. Like bullshit, you don't entertain a trade
like this, and let's face it, want to trade him.
No one's giving you anything of value for a guy
owed basically fifty million over the next couple of years,
who has a torn ACL and MCL right and needed

(15:21):
major surgery and it's not even gonna be ready till
the next till the middle of next year. Now, maybe
this was they knew they could never trade him, and
they're playing psychological games with him because they thought that
he fucked with him last year, which has been well reported,
and they did not like the way the negotiations transpired.
But what a bizarre situation. It really is. The Steelers

(15:45):
and Mike Tomlin. Now, Tomlin was asked about Aaron Rodgers
and he gave one of his classic like Tomlin's I'm
comfortable being uncomfortable this time of year, and I'm used
to the weirdness of you know, free agency, which I
don't think he's really lying. And I think all signs
right now point Aaron Rodgers being on the Steelers. I heard.

(16:08):
I think some people had believed that Rogers was going
to make the announcement on Pat McAfee's like, I think
he has like a show. I don't know if it's
actual like live show when his show's on air, or
just a show at night, but it's in Pittsburgh, and
most people think that Aaron Rodgers is going to come out,

(16:30):
you know, during that period of time. And when I
first heard, I forget where I heard this. It's like,
I don't know, that's so long to wait, like he's
really gonna now now I kind of feel like, yeah,
maybe there is some validity to that, and that's ultimately
what's gonna happen. Because there was a picture going viral
today of Rogers thrown with DK Metcalf, who is obviously
no longer on Seattle and on the Steelers, You're like,

(16:51):
this thing's gonna happen. But that's not what I want
to talk about. Mike tom he had a quote today
that I thought which I'm kind of torn on, and
he was asked about the reseting which is getting pushed
in these owners meetings about teams with better records than
division winners having to go on the road, and obviously

(17:14):
there are teams pushing to have a team like the
Minnesota Vikings would not have now technically that game ended
up in Arizona, but would get to host the game
because they won fourteen games. Instead, they're going on the
road to play a ten win division winner. And Mike
Tomlin supports division winners getting to host playoff games because

(17:39):
he thinks basically winning the division matters, and he's a
big believer in rivalries, which I am too. I'm all
for it, and I used to believe this if you
won your division and it was one of those weird,
crappy years and your team was under five hundred, which
we've seen before in rare circumstances. I think the Panthers
one year, the Saints on the uh was it the

(18:02):
Beast quake in Seattle, they had to go on the road.
Seattle was like seven and nine, won an awful NFC
West like Pete Carroll's first year. I'm all for you
don't get to host a playoff game, and i'd even
before in that situation you don't even make the playoffs.
But I think guys like Tomlin would push back against that.
I think if you're under five hundred and you'd be like, well,

(18:25):
if you're not one of the top seven teams, you
just don't get to make the playoffs. I'd have no
problem with that. But I do think this, if you
win your division, and this is gonna be like, you know,
I'm gonna pull some stuff. I don't want to stay
out of my you know what. But this is just
I was thinking about this. If you win ten or
more games. Let's use the Rams as an example, Like

(18:46):
they didn't feel like a random playoff team this year,
but they weren't Minnesota Detroit Philly like they weren't thirteen
fourteen to fifteen win team, but they were clearly pretty
good and they went ten and seven and they won
their division. I have no problem with them getting the
right to host a playoff game. But if you tell
me you go nine and eight, which in seventeen game

(19:07):
season is essentially eight and eight. Now it's not under
five hundred, but it's still like you're nine and eight
and you're always going to be more than likely the
fourth team. If you go one, two, three, four in
the divisions, you're hosting a team I would say, if
we just look back on the last decade, is probably
on average going to have two, potentially three more wins

(19:32):
than you feels a little out of whack. So I'd
have no issue with this. Under five hundred. You're not
guaranteed a playoff spot. If you win the division at
eight to nine or worse, if you go nine and eight,
you get to make the playoffs, even if you're not
one of the top seven rosters or I mean records,
because you won the division. But you get to you

(19:53):
got to play on the road, and if you go
get ten plus wins, you get to host the game.
And you'd be like, well, why do you just choose
those numbers? Well, it's like I was thinking about this today.
Where do they get the fifteen yard penalty? Why is
it not ten in one hundred yard field and we're
at the thirty yard line. I mean, you're talking that's
a huge, huge advantage. Why is it fifteen yards automatic?

(20:17):
Fifteen yard penalty automatic first down? Why can't it be ten?
He just chosen fifteen and we just go along with it,
which I'm not against. But when you really think about it,
the fields one hundred yards. So if you get a
fifteen yard penalty, that's fifteen percent, and that's assuming you're
basically at the zero yard line. If I get a
fifteen yard penalty, I'm at the fifty. Shit, I'm already

(20:39):
in field goal range. Well if that's ten and changes
a little bit, so we already kind of do that
with penalties. Why can't we do it in this situation?
I do just think that something about under double digit wins?
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Speaker 1 (22:23):
A couple things in regards to the Colts. Andrew Luck
is now the GM of the Stanford Cardinal, and he
just fired his coach, Troy Taylor, who ironically is a
former Cal quarterback and coaches Stanford, just like Mark Madson,
former Stanford Great Cal's basketball coach. But there was an

(22:46):
article within the last I don't know, three or four weeks.
I haven't talked about this on the show because I
read the article and it said he was doing like
really mean things to women within the office, but it
didn't really give details, Like it was hard for me
to have a take when I don't know, like is
he just football coaches can be dicks a lot of
stress they're not winning. Is he just not being nice

(23:09):
or is he doing specific things like I need examples
to have an opinion on, like yeah, this can't be
tolerated or it's like, yeah, welcome to football. But he
got fired, and Andrew Luck fired him, and today it
was announced that Frank Reich, his former coach and obviously
former Panther coach, former Eagles offensive coordinator, former quarterback in

(23:31):
the NFL, will be the interim coach with Stanford, but
only for this year. Now, if Stanford wins like eight
nine games, maybe he just keeps the job. But they're
claiming that he They fired Troy Taylor, which you know
was I guess Andrew Luck's decision potentially the president's decision.
You fire a guy in the middle to late March,

(23:54):
you can't just go on like a normal coaching search.
But Frank Reich will be the coach. So listen, the
Troy Taylor experiment had gone three and nine. He'd gone
three and nine. Stanford's kind of in shambles. They're now
playing in the ACC. Good opportunity for Frank to kind
of get his swag back because he kind of feels
like Frank's never going to be a coach again, and
all of a sudden, if he can resurrect Stamford in

(24:16):
a year, I don't think it's inconceivable that he just
keeps the job. I listened to Chris Ballard, Oh Floria.
He sat down with Florio, and I listened to that interview,
and then I read some quotes from Shane Steichn. It's
pretty clear that the Colts like Daniel Jones, and one
thing Ballard said is the last couple of years, we've

(24:38):
just tried to sign the best backup quarterback we could
Gardner Minshew two years ago, Flacco last year. But those quarterbacks,
their skill set didn't have anything in common with Anthony Richson.
So when Anthony Richison would leave the game injury suspended whatever.
I guess he wasn't technically suspended. He was his bench.

(25:00):
We'd have to change the offense, and this year we
went into it thinking like we need to get a
more athletic quarterback where the offenses can be pretty similar.
I think they like Daniel Jones, and I think Anthony
Richardson's job. And again I'm not pro Daniel Jones, but
he better play well because if Daniel Jones, if all
things are equal, I think they'll go with Daniel Jones.

(25:22):
I think they are very very unsure right now. In
anthy Richardson, I don't blame him, and Ssichin mentioned today
like he's got to be more accurate. He used the
Gruden quote you can never go broke taking a profit,
you know, the spider two white banana. The whole point
of that was like you can dump into the fullback.
It's an easy play. And the one thing with Anthony Richardson,
you don't really get easy plays because he's pretty inaccurate.

(25:45):
And I'm not saying Daniel Jones any good. Listen, I
don't even think I would have signed him if I
was them, but clearly they are not comfortable with Anthony Richardson,
and right now I would say it's a coin flip
week one, who the starting quarterback is Josie. How fast
things change. And I think they have a front row
seat of watching these other situations, like you kind of know,
you know, And they saw it with the Niners and

(26:08):
Trey Lance, they saw it with the Jets and Zach Wilson.
They saw it with the Justin Field situation. Like you
just kinda once you kind of start questioning a guy.
It's pretty rare that you pivot back with a super
young player and maybe over the course of the decade
maybe he can figure it out. But as I'm sitting
here right now, March thirty first, twenty twenty five, if

(26:28):
you tell me Anthony Rigson becomes like just a solid
starting quarterback in the NFL, my guess would be it
happens with someone other than the Indianapolis Colts. This was
an interesting story the New York Jets. It was reported
by I think the Sports Business Journal that of like
two hundred and twenty employees, they offered like one hundred

(26:49):
and seventy or one hundred and eighty of them the
opportunity to quit and basically get paid to go away,
which I've always said. Some of these coaches, like Josh
McDaniels got like fifty million dollars to leave. You know,
no human can relate to that. You read some of
these articles about like CEOs getting the Golden parachute. I

(27:10):
remember when I got firing Radio and they owed me
like ten grand over the course of two months. I thought,
I was like, I'm getting ten grand for two months
and not do shit. This is awesome. Most human beings,
when they are laid off or fired, not only don't
get much. A lot of them are at will employees.
They get nothing and have to take unemployment and it sucks.

(27:30):
I've been there where you just like, have no money
coming in, you have you don't even know what to do.
I feel little sympathy the way this is gonna work.
With the Jets, where a lot of these people are
ten plus years, some of them are twenty plus years.
You get three week severance for every year you work there.
So if you work there for ten years, you would

(27:51):
get thirty week severance. I mean that's more than more
than six months. Some of these people up to eighty
week severance. Do the math. I mean, you're talking a
year and a half, so like it's a pretty if.
It's pretty clear. If they don't want you to work
there and they're offering you a year worth of severance,
it's like, I'm not feeling bad for you. I'm not
looking at you like the dude at some job that

(28:14):
just gets laid off and now has no income coming
in that sucks. That's not the case here. Woody Johnson's
throwing this out. He's copying Elon and Donald Who did that.
I actually know a guy who got offered this I
think was in early February, late January, and he took it.
He's being paid by the US government till I think

(28:34):
September to just he got paid to leave, and he
was in a situation where he was between jobs. He
took this job. He didn't like it, and they offered
him that. He's like, see, I'm out this situation, which
is I would say, is a little unheard of. The
difference in the government. Thing that's going on is there's
been a strait of change. There is a new boss,

(28:57):
and there are people if you don't align with the
values and you are not gonna want to do what
they're gonna want to do, or you think that they're
going to bring in people that don't align with the
way you view thinks you ultimately will get fired or
forced out. You're like, okay, I'll take my quote unquote
golden parachute right now. In this situation, Woody Johnson is

(29:18):
not leaving, so the ownership, there is no change of leadership.
The reason the Jets haven't made the playoffs in I
think it's the longest standing professional team in all of
all of sports, all the four major sports in America,
is not because of any of these individuals. Sure, some

(29:39):
of them you could trim some fat. Probably you could upgrade.
But Woody Johnson looks at it like we need a
full scale change. Let's fire everyone in the building and
start from scratch. What you're not a startup. The reason
your team hasn't won many games, You've pick the wrong players,

(30:01):
You've hired the wrong coaches, you haven't figured out the
quarterback position. The third dude in the marketing department who's
worked there for six years has no impact on winning
and losing. I promise you that I've been in these buildings.
They do not impact it. It's not their fault, so like,

(30:23):
I understand what he's trying to copy, but I think
most people would tell you he's the problem, and as
long as he owns the team, nothing's gonna change. So
they could get all these people, two hundred plus people
could could basically agree to pay me to go away,
which for some of these people is a long time

(30:45):
I'd argue as an American dream, But I don't think it's
gonna have any impact. If Justin Fields can't complete an
out route, if the defense can't get a third night stop,
if Sasgardner plays like he did last year, not first
two seasons, if their pass rush isn't very good, if
Aaron Glenn's not a good coach, if this dude they

(31:07):
hired from Denver is not a good GM. They could
replace all those fucking people and it will have no
impact on whether they can beat Mike Vrabel or Sean McDermott.
So sexy headline, and I would imagine that a lot
of these people end up taking these once they realize
that they are not wanted anymore, Because the one thing

(31:28):
I look back at when you know I've left places,
was like, why would you want to be somewhere that
doesn't want you now. At the time, it's very difficult.
When you're hearing that news, it's not fun. But when
time passes and you look back, you're like, why would
I want to work with these people? And the answer
is you wouldn't if they don't want you there, especially

(31:49):
the guy that owns the team, if he wants you gone.
I mean, this is I promise you this, this is
his idea. He's clearly good buddies with Donald. Their wives
were models and the eighties or whatever, and he's copying
dojan Elon. I just think to think that the dude
selling sweets is the reason the Jets get made fun

(32:13):
of a lot and have had issues over the last
fifteen years. I just think is fundamentally like barking up
the wrong tree. You're just you're trying to fix something
that is not going to change the thing that matters
the most to everybody, which is the on the field product.
A couple other things, the international games. They're looking at

(32:36):
Greece and the United Arab Emirates. My take on this
has been pretty consistent. I do believe that this is
not about international expansion of putting a team in England
or Spain, or in any of these places. It's just
about building an international fan base for Netflix and Amazon

(32:58):
and Apple TV and Hulu or whoever they end up
going into business with. That's what I think they're doing.
And they're gonna play a game in Greece, they will
play a game in Dubai. Like this is all inevitable.
It's pretty clear where this is all going. But to me,
it is all based on the ability to stream these
games and have more and more people watching outside the

(33:22):
United States. That is important to them. And when they
inevitably sign a big deal with Netflix, they will have
hoped to have built that base over the course of
the twenty twenties and they are actively doing that. Thursday
Night Football, they've added the ability to flex games over

(33:42):
the last couple of years. They just had to give
you a twenty eight day heads up. So if they
were gonna flex your Thursday night game, and you know
they if they're going to put you You're on a
Sunday game, and now they're going to flex your game
because it's better to Thursday night football, they had to
basically give you a mone Well, they've cut off a
week and now they only have to give you twenty

(34:03):
one days. I think they are dead set on selling
this package for way more money than they just did
do Amazon, and they understand that when you're getting ten
to fifteen million people to watch these games, how valuable
is that. We just saw the NBA almost triple their
deal and they've lost half their audience. They won't have
one game this season, including the NBA Finals, unless the

(34:26):
Lakers or Warriors make it that will get over ten
million people get the NFL on Amazon Prime is disappointed
when only ten million people watch. So I think the
league is licking their lips on upping the value of
all these packages, and they don't want a game that

(34:48):
looks good at the beginning of the season and then
all of a sudden there's a disaster sitting there on
Thursday night and all of a sudden, it's not as
important to watch. I'm gonna watch. I don't miss any
Thursday night games, but it's much more enjoyable when it's
Bengals Ravens or Chiefs Broncos than when it's you know,
Jags Titans. And I think they've made that decision and

(35:10):
they will keep getting aggressive and this is probably as
close as you can get The detractors will say, what
about the fans, What about the people who have made
the decision to travel in to buy a hotel room
and buy tickets. They don't care about you. They care

(35:34):
about the dude on the couch. They care about the
person that accounts for one of those eleven, twelve, thirteen
million people. That's where they derive their cash. It's where
they make their money. The value of you sitting in
the game used to be really valuable. It's really valuable

(35:55):
in baseball because I got eighty home games. It's really
valuable in basketab because I got forty one home games.
I value my season tickets. I value the people that
buy game day tickets. They are just not nearly valued
by the league office that views things from a macro perspective.
So a lot of people are gonna write articles and

(36:16):
complain about this, which I get and listen. It sucks
if you make a decision to go to that game,
especially you know, a decision if it's like Raiders Broncos,
and all of a sudden, I'm not trying to shit
in the Raiders, but they just have no chance to
make the playoffs, and all of a sudden they move
that game for let's say, Rams Packers, and it's like, well,

(36:41):
I've already bought my tickets to Vegas. I already preserve
my room at the area. I already was gonna go
fly in Thursday morning and stay through Saturday. They're just
gonna tell you shit out of luck because they're not
really worried about you, and for the money that you
used to generate them twenty thirty, forty years ago, you're

(37:04):
such a small piece of the pie now and the
only thing they care about is Amazon Prime and whoever's
gonna buy that deal in a couple of years sees
the big numbers, and the bigger the game is, the
more people that they're gonna watch. Last, but not least,
Kevin O'Connell said that two things can be true. We

(37:26):
really like JJ McCarthy, and we're all in on JJ McCarthy,
but we would not be doing our job if we
didn't thoroughly discuss and go over the scenarios about Aaron Rodgers.
I think he's right. You could argued, like, listen, Aaron,
we are going to offer you a contract. One year's

(37:48):
five million dollars. One year five million dollars what's it
gonna say. No, it's like, okay, go to Pittsburgh for
twenty five or whatever. We're offering you, by far the
best opportunity with the guy. As Kevin O'Connell said, I've
known since I was playing one year, five million dollars.
You've made four hundred and fifty. You've probably made six
hundred million dollars on and off the field. Whether you

(38:11):
get paid twenty million dollars or five million dollars isn't
going to change anything in your life, your future children,
if you choose to have them, anything about the rest
of your existence on this earth. But we are going
to give you five million dollars, and that would give
them the wiggle room, like, if it's not going well,
we just cut you. That's what I would have done

(38:31):
if I was Minnesota. Yeah, I'm not giving you twenty five,
thirty forty million dollars. Here's our offer if you want
to be a part of what we're doing and somehow
end up on the same path that farv ended up
on the guy that you like detested because he was
mean to you, and then he played for the same teams.
And clearly Rogers was hoping the Vikings offered him a contract.

(38:55):
You could argue, like, hey, league minimum and Dodger's league
minimum because's been the league twenty years, might be two
or three million dollars. But this is what we'll offer you.
What's it gonna say? No? Like, okay, cool, this is
what we wanted to We wanted the wiggle room of
like if this doesn't work out, we can bounce because

(39:16):
we don't want to be tied to you, but we
do value Like maybe you're better than JJ McCarthy right now,
maybe you're not. I don't know the answer. Obviously, you know,
three or four years ago, you wouldn't Aaron Rodgers had
already been on the Vikings would have been a no brainer.
But at this point in time, he's forty one, he's declining.

(39:36):
What if JJ actually is good? But what if he's bad?
Like I understand why they had these conversations, But if
it ever got down to making him an offer, I
think the offer would be for a very very small
amount of money and basically put it in his court,
like how bad do you want this? Because we got
the leverage. You want to be here more than we
want you. So I'm a little surprised that they ended

(39:59):
up not the trigger on just a basically a low
ball offer. I don't even want to use the term
low ball, just a just a listen, we want you
on this team. We think you still have something left,
but financially, this is the wiggle room that we have
and basically don't even pay more than JJ McCarthy. So
if JJ McCarthy actually hits, you know, there's not resentment

(40:20):
big picture, but they chose not to do that, and
they're all in on JJ McCarthy. And now the hopes
of Minnesota Vikings fans and the future of a franchise
that's absolutely loaded on paper falls on a guy that's
never taken a regular season snap. Okay, mailbag time at

(40:49):
John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in
those dms. I have a lot, So it just if
I haven't got tears, I'm gonna try to just keep
banging them out for the weeks the off season. We'll
we'll just keep up. Hopefully I and can get most
of them before the draft, because obviously once that happens,
then we have a whole new influx and there's just

(41:12):
you know, if I don't get you by then you
probably get lost in the shuffle. So I got to
start grinding over these next couple of weeks from landing
love the content. Been a listener for years, huge fan
of NIL. I think it's great because college athletes can
make money off their popularity in branding. My question is

(41:32):
how much money do you think football icons like Johnny
Football and Reggie Bush would have made in their college careers.
You know, the irony of you saying off their branding
and likeness, their image, you know, that's name, image and likeness.
That's not what these guys are being paid to do.
I think Deon Sanders said it. He's like beside, like shador,

(41:54):
who do you see in commercials? These guys are just
being paid to play, which again I I don't care,
but it's basically, I'm just paying you to play football.
I'm not using your name, image and likeness anywhere in
terms of like commercials, like businesses. It's just like I
have five hundred thousand dollars for you here. So it's

(42:15):
kind of out of whack. But in this system, I
think both I think they would have been them Cam Newton,
I mean talk about and more Johnny Football and Reggie
because they had to build up. Cam just had the
one year with Auburn. I mean he would have been
asking for a raise by like week four. But Johnny

(42:37):
Football would have made a lot, I mean after that
huge was his red shirt freshman year, after Reggie's sophomore y. Yeah,
it would have been millions of dollars. As a former scout,
how much of your time was spent traveling to watch
players live versus evaluating them on film? And did you

(42:58):
enjoy the travel side of the job or do you
for breaking down the tape. That's a good question. I
would say I liked I liked driving. You know, I
can drive for hours. Now. The problem in that business is,
you know, when I drove from Arizona State to Vegas
or LA to col Paly to cal and Stanford, you

(43:22):
just spend a lot of time in your car or
you can't get any work done. So it's like, at
least when you're flying around and in the airport you
can work. Like when you're driving, it's just kind of
dead time, and it's just time when you are from
three to eight at night, if you're on a five
hour drive, when it's you're just getting nothing done. Listen,

(43:47):
we all have to commute at times and you waste
an hour or two. But when you have consistent four
or five hour drives, it's just a lot of extra
time that you're gonna have to spend when you get
to your hotel. I'm very comfortable hotel. I can work
in a hotel, turn the ac to about sixty five degrees.
I can, you know, eat snack and beef jerky and

(44:09):
subway sandwiches. Like I can live that life, no problem.
I mean, I don't think i'd want to do it
as much now, but I didn't have a problem with
that at all. I don't travel nearly as much now
obviously for this, but every once in a while, like
go to the Combine or go to the super Bowl
and just stay in hotel. It's like, I'm very comfortable

(44:30):
in that environment. I'm very comfortable in a hotel room. Uh.
And maybe it goes back to that. I don't know.
And this is someone as a kid, like we didn't
It's not like this term gets thrown out a lot. Vacations. Vacations.
It's like, you know, Maria's like I need a vacation.
Like when I was a kid, we didn't go on

(44:51):
many vacations like most. I don't think most people in
society are just getting a couple vacations a year, like
kids get spring break or or whatever. When I got
spring break, I just was with my friends at home,
or I'd go with my dad to work, So I
didn't get to travel as much. I definitely didn't fly

(45:11):
a lot, like throughout junior high and high school. Like
with my family, we didn't really go anywhere. If anything,
I went like with my friends. When I got to
go on quote like to Lake Tahoe or whatever, it
was like to my friend's house. It wasn't ours. So
maybe I value that ability to do that. Now, I'm
sure there's something psychological to it, but I love a

(45:33):
good Marriotte As an aspiring NFL NBA content creator on YouTube,
what tips do you suggest for getting started? How do
you grow to have a following that you have? Now? Well,
I've been in this business now you know the podcast
space for going on nine years. I've been doing YouTube

(45:55):
stuff for five plus. I've made my lip being off
the internet for a long time. So I would say
my number one piece of advice to any human just
do like you got to stop talking. You just got
to do it. Some stuff is not gonna work. The
best part about the Internet business there aren't really that
many rules. They just do whatever you want to do

(46:19):
and if it works, double down. If it doesn't stop,
it's just it's it's the best. I mean, it's it's
for all the industries we have in the world. I
would say content creation is a little bit podcasting, YouTube, TikTok,
you fucking name it. Uh kind of that world is
still like the Wow Wow West. It won't be forever,

(46:42):
but right now, Like you look at some of these
worlds like banking or real estate and some of these
things that are very very corporate, and you got to
follow a bunch of rules. Ain't many rules. The number
one rule you should follow is just try to do
content as much as possible. You know, I don't have to.
I didn't have to do a podcast Sunday. This could
have been my first podcast of the week, record on

(47:05):
Monday for Tuesday, and just essentially take Friday, Saturday Sunday
off because I don't record anything Friday for Saturday. But
I you know, I start questioning myself, like am I
being lazy? And the answer I gave myself was yeah,
let's do something. So I recorded something like the best
part about this world is like you don't have to

(47:26):
do anything, Like you get to choose what you now
once you've got ads and people in business, Like there
are certain requirements based on certain deals, but like you
kind of get to pick and choose when you want
to do stuff. So pick and choose to do stuff
more often, and then through that you can figure out
what works and what doesn't. Since we're in the off season,

(47:47):
can you walk us through the process COMMA activities and
schedule from the draft until the regular season game one players,
coaches and rookies. I've always wanted to know what's going
on behind the scenes. Well, that's a long period of time.
I'll just walk you through the next couple months. March

(48:07):
thirty first, so once the owners meetings end and all
the gms and the coaches go back to their facilities.
I don't know whether they fly out Tuesday night or Wednesday.
Either by Thursday or Friday or maybe next Monday, you
will start intense draft meetings of taking everything that you

(48:28):
have gathered since the combine at the Pro days, all
the information and really hammer home the end of your
draft board. Now your coaches will be involved. They will
have work guys out, they will have evaluated players on film,
so their opinions will come into it. The coordinators, the
position coaches, and you will all work to get your

(48:49):
draft board situated over the course of two or three weeks.
And like I know, Veach and the guys in Kansas City,
they spend a lot of time in that room anytime
there's a question or an argument on a guy, watching
games together as a group and they just kind of
work their way through it. Some teams do less of that,
so every team is a little different. And then you

(49:12):
just set your draft board and then the draft comes. Obviously
you pick the players, and then within I don't know
the exact time. Usually this after not the first weekend,
but the second weekend, you have a rookie mini camp
where those guys, you know, your Friday, Saturday, Sunday, all
the guys you just drafted, all undrafted free agents, and

(49:34):
then a bunch of like random tryout guys, and you
just run pretty discombobulated practice and over the course of
that time, you know your OTA's phase one, but it's
really just working out. Guys are in town working out,
they're in there during over the course of April, and
you're just kind of all integrating together. That leads to

(49:54):
OTAs and OTAs. You know, for a place like Kansas
City or Baltimore or Buffalo, or the Rams or the Niners.
Niners have a lot of new players, but some of
these teams with like pretty established rosters. You know, it's
it's I wouldn't say the Eagles. It's a three day

(50:15):
work week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and a lot of times
you're getting three day weekends Friday, Saturday, Sunday off Mondays
relatively chill. You work out some guys who are on
the street, maybe older free agents during that time. But
when I was when I worked for the Eagles, like
we were playing a bunch of golf. You know, they
weren't crazy long days like eight to three or four.

(50:39):
Now it's it's intense for the rookies and some of
these teams, like you know, if you're the Titans or
a new coach, you know Pete Carroll, obviously some days
are longer, like the Chiefs and the you know, the Eagles,
like certain teams, it's it just depends where you're at,
uh and then you basically do OTAs, which are just

(51:00):
I mean, kind of stupid at this point with all
the rules till summer break, which is about give or
take thirty five to forty days where you just do
what the hell you want. A lot of these guys,
you know, a lot of coaches are rich. They go
to cool places and then you reconvene for training camp.
I'm not gonna do a training camp breakdown right now,

(51:21):
but the offseason, once the draft ends, becomes pretty chill,
becomes i would say, very relaxed. It's a good time,
you know, for like me, I'm gonna try to get
out and interview some of these guys during the months
of May and June because it's it's very relaxed time.
The spirits are very high for all these teams. Who

(51:43):
do you think is the best contender to go from
worse to first in their division this year? I mean,
it probably have to be the forty nine ers, just
because when you look around, like, is it gonna be
the Carolina Panthers, Is it going to be the New
York Giants? You know, even the New England Patriots, who
could have a massive bounce back, like they're not gonna

(52:04):
have a better record than the Bills, So I think
the most realistic team would have to be the Niners. Yeah,
the Patriots, I just even if they were to get
a wild card, they're not taking the Bills out. Browns
no chance, Titans feels hard pressed, Raiders, no chance, Giants,

(52:25):
definitely no chance. I do think the Bears could be
a lot better, but I mean their division fifteen wins,
fourteen wins and eleven wins, so they combined for thirty
they combined for forty wins. The three teams they got
to take out Saints, I'd say probably no chance. It
feels like the Niners would be the only guess you

(52:47):
could have that could be real. Good question if you
were going to build an NFL team, when't you build
through the trenches? This seems like an obvious concept, but
the bottom twelve teams in the NFL seemed to constantly
be rebuilding over and over. Are these coaches in GM
scared of getting fired and that's why they bring in new, flashy,

(53:09):
skill position players. Would you approach it as a GM Well,
I think if your fundamental football belief is to draft
big guys, I think most people say that right when
they get introduced as a head coach when they get
introduced as a GM, when they do interviews, like we
believe in the line of scrimmage. But then you're on

(53:30):
the clock. Let's say you're the Cowboys, right, you're at
pick twelve, It's like, you should probably take an offensive
or defensive alignment. Zach Martin just retired. You've just lost
some defensive players over the course the last couple of years. Like,
you could definitely add a young talented guy to go
with Micah, especially a dtackle. All these gms often also say,

(53:52):
is like, take the best player on the board. So
if we get to pick twelve and the best player
on our board by far is Ashton genty. And let's
say McMillan from Arizona, who I saw kind of went
viral because someone got him for saying he doesn't watch film.
It's like, guys, a lot of college players don't watch

(54:15):
a lot of film outside of the coaching staff. Like,
he's not it's not abnormal. Now will he develop into that?
Time will tell, But like I don't think he's alone.
But if those are the best two players on the draft,
and you don't have a defensive or offensive lineman on
the same level as those guys. That's when often you

(54:36):
get in trouble is when you reach for a need.
So I do think it's easy for us to criticize them,
and then when they take a need and it works,
they look like a genius. And when they take a
skilled guy in at backfires, they look like an idiot.
It's really really difficult to draft, it is. It's so
much easier for us, all including them, to play Monday

(54:58):
morning quarterback, to look back a couple years going like
great pick, awful pick. You don't have any of that
information in a month, you can only go off what
you are projecting. Then in two years you got a
bunch of film and you know, certain guy's been arrested
and broke his leg, and like, god, I wouldn't have
fuck with that guy. It's so easy to say after
the fact, and I'm as guilty as anybody, But I

(55:22):
think if you just draft good players, no one's really
gonna complain. Look at the Eagles last year, they just
they desperately needed dbs and they drafted the two dbs. Well,
you know it turned out both the dbs were sweet.
What if those dbs sucked, It's like, ah, those guys
can't play. De Jean's a stiff white guy. Mitchell overrated

(55:44):
small school guy. He'd been getting crushed. The key is
to hit on the picks, keys to hit on the picks.
The Bengals took Jamar Chase over Pina School. Which if
I just pulled every GM hey star tackle, star wide receiver,
which one are you gonna take? Take the star tackle?
But if that guy's Jamar Chase, you don't feel really

(56:04):
bad about it, especially in your offensive line still sucks.
I was wondering your thoughts on the Ravens chances to
finally make it over the hump. I feel like our
roster A is stacked and con beat any team. I
know Lamar has been disappointing in the playoffs, but I
think the improvements we've seen the last two seasons have
been big. Do you think we will win the Super

(56:26):
Bowl this year or Lamar will continue to struggle in
the playoffs. I'll say this, if I'm the Bills or
the Ravens, you keep giving yourself enough swings, Eventually you're
gonna hit a home run. Eventually it's gonna break your way.
I've seen it play out with other teams. You know,

(56:47):
Lamar and Josh are clearly the next two best quarterbacks
in the league. Peyton Manning forever could get over the
hump against the Patriots, and then he finally did, and
then he went to three more Super Bowls. It's like
one of those two teams is I would say in
the next two years? Hell, I would say this year,
it's a coin flip for the Chiefs. Are the Chiefs

(57:08):
gonna go to six Super Bowls in seven years? Yeah,
they have one of the best coaches of all time,
they have a great quarterback. But just history would tell
us Belichick didn't go to the Super Bowl and Brady
every fucking year he got beat occasionally by Flacco, by Manning,
like it's just gone by by Mark Sanchez. So eventually

(57:30):
it's just gonna be like, oh, Bill's Ravens in the
AFC Championship Game, bound to happen. This gonna be your year.
I don't know. I thought two years ago was your year.
If Lamar keeps playing an elite level and you guys
just keep building good teams like you've done for feels
like most of my adult life. Yeah, you're gonna have

(57:50):
a shot. In your opinion, what do you think was
the best decade of football. I'm twenty four lifelong Pats fan,
so I grew up watching The Dynasty in New England.
But I love watching old highlights to see how much
different things were. My personal favorite was the twenty tens.

(58:14):
I would say the best decade of football for my
personal enjoyment would probably be the tens, or excuse me,
the zero, the just the two thousands. It still had
like a nineties eighty seventies level of you could get killed,
like it was so physical and intense that only gladiators

(58:37):
could do it. But there was still such a high
level of like Brady in his prime, Manning in his prime,
Farv was still playing, Breeze really hit the scene, Philip Rivers,
Big Ben Eli. So you just had pretty high level
quarterback play, especially in the playoffs, and there was like

(58:59):
this gladiator element. I think the league was deeper than
it was definitely when I was really really young. The
Salary cap I think changed the world of parody. But
like you know, you came over the middle of John
Lynch or Brian Dawkins or some of the Troy Paulamalu

(59:19):
and Ray Lewis. There was just an element of this
is crazy. I mean, these guys are nuts, and there's
still an element of that, but you know, the violence
has just been officiated out of the game because they
don't want to get sued, which I totally understand. If
I was in their shoes, i'd do the same thing.

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But there was a level of violence up until whatever
the mid twenty tens that just doesn't exist anymore. That
I'm not ashamed to say. I miss sometimes and I
think some of these players get away with poor play
quarterbacks specifically, that wouldn't been tolerated back then because you

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would have got guys killed, you wouldn't have been able
to play. And I do agree with Brady, you know, Mahomes,
Josh Lamar, these guys would have played in any era.
But some of these random guys that are able to excel,
like could Gardner Minshew have played in two thousand and four? No,

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I do not believe that. I don't think he would
still be in the league. That's not I'm not trying
to take a shot at the guy. I just think
you watch him play any kind of little gun slinger like,
I don't think it's possible he would have got people killed,
So I'd go my personal favorite the two thousands. Do

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you think as more and more different head coaches and
GM's win Super Bowls, Shanahan and Lynch will slowly become
an overrated coach in GM combination. It always seems like
he has a stack roster and just coaches just like
other coaches such as Siriani. But the difference is that

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he can never take it all the way home. Hell,
Zach Taylor made a Super Bowl and Doug Peterson won one.
Lynch overpaid Jimmy g He used two first rounders on
Trey Lance three and could have whiffed on Mac Jones
got lucky with a limited seventh rounder. Yeah, I mean
these guys just until you win a Super Bowl, you

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always have that hanging over your head and how close
they've been, they're gonna pay their quarterback. Yeah, they will
get criticized. But here's the thing. Kyle Shanahan could have
two awful seasons, he would immediately get hired immediately. It's
like Andy Reid. Andy Reid got fired in Philadelphia, there
were three or four teams lined up to hire the guy.

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John Lynch is the overrated, underrated, like who's like his
resume speaks for himself. He's drafted a lot of really
good players. He's and Jimmy Garoppolo was not necessarily overpaid,
won a lot of games with them. That was Jimmy
Garoppolo a franchise quarterback. It turns out he wasn't because
he got injured a lot and then he kind of

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diminished as a player. But like when they paid him,
what were they supposed to do? They just made the
Super Bowl. If Tua just taken the Dolphins of the
Super Bowl or Trevor Lawrence, I would have been like, Yeah,
I have no problem with them signing that contract. Like
those guys couldn't piss a drop in the playoffs, especially Tua.

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It's like you can't. Jimmy Garoppolo is like making plays
in the playoffs and in huge games to get them
the number one seed in twenty nineteen, So they were
kind of like, what are they gonna do? And then
he just kind of fell off a cliff because he
was injured a lot. But I don't have as big
of an issue with them paying Jimmy Garoppolo. That was
not the reason, Like that didn't derail their team at all.

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The Trey Lance thing is a way bigger issue, but
they got out of it because of Rock Party. Now
it's like Perty's going to be judged differently because he's
gonna be paid a lot of money. Question for the bag,
does the height of gent really concern you enough to
hesitate on him being one of the best running backs
in the draft? I understand he's only five eight, but

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what about backs like Frank Gore. I'm from the Bay
and had the privilege of meeting Frank and Willis at
a birthday party in the San Jose Hills. He was
listed at five to nine, but in person didn't seem
taller than five to seven tackle breaking ability like Gore.
You're making my point though, Frank Gore, who's i mean,

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one of the more consistent players of his generation, was
pick sixty five. I've never said that Dashion genty isn't
one of, if not the best running back in this draft.
My issue is are you going to take a running
back who's five to eight in the top ten when
you could find a starter no problem? In this draft?
It is considered one of, if not the deepest running

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back drafts in years. In the second or third round,
aren't you better off taking a defensive lineman in the
first round and then taking the third or fourth running
back in the second round. That's my whole argument. I'm
with you, He's not going to be a bust or
a great play. His height is not going to determine
his success. He can he can excel and be a

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pro bowl or five eight one hundred percent. But am
I taking a five eight guy in the top ten
at running back? That's where I struggle with and I'm
with you. Frank Gore as a stut but he's a
third round pick. Now, part of that was because of
his knee injuries, But that's my argument. Why don't you

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just draft Frank Gore in the third round and take
other positions in the other in the other rounds. So
when I look at at the forty nine ers who
took Frank Gore in two thousand and five, they took
Alex Smith with the first round pick. They took David

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Bass with their second round pick. I think played decent
amount who's on the team for five years. So they
got their starting quarterback and their starting center, and then
they're starting running back in the third round. That's my
whole argument here, Take get your starting tight end Tyler

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Warren and then take whoever the fourth best running back
or the seventh best running back in the third round,
who might be the next Frank Gore. Happens all the time.
Alvin Kamara third round, Nick Chubb second round, Leshaun McCoy
second round. You don't need what's the guy's like Adrian Peterson.

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I'm just Sakuon Barkley. I'm just not taking the guy
that high. When you were talking about guards and centers
having elite toughness like wrestlers, it got me curious. Did
you catch any of the NCAA Wrestling Championship this past weekend?
As a Penn State fan, It's one sporting event where
I get to experience winning natties. But the event overall

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had some awesome moments. Like I said, I just watched
the highlights of the dude that upset the guy from Minnesota,
which was awesome. I think the Bills last year, either
drafted in the seventh or as an undrafted free agent,
took the national champion wrestler from Minnesota. I don't even

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think it was the guy that just lost. Could be
Probably shouldn't bring that up. I don't have the information,
but I'm pretty sure that they brought a wrestler to
the team. Dming you from my fiance's Instagram account. I
think I have a great addition for Fugazi Friday decorative pillows.
We currently have seven decorative pillows on our bed and

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none of them are ever used. What is the point
of having and paying for seven pillows to take them
off and use your actual pillows when you sleep? They
are annoying. I hear you, brother, You know the one
thing is when you One thing ladies bring to our

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lives is the functionuy, the the aura, as the kids
say that, the vibes of the house, because when they
don't exist, my house looks much worse in terms of decorations.

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And like I would, I never had any pillows on
my bed beside the ones I used to sleep, And
I think my mom before I moved to Arizona, like
the only reason my bed had like the extra pillows
because like my mom bottom for me. But there are
things I'm with you, they just are there for looks.
And how often even when you bring people over to

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your house like friends, they're not hanging out in your bedroom.
But maybe this is an old school thing my dad
taught me like one thing I am good at and
I'm disciplined with is making the bed every day. It's
kind of kind of my job or just I just
end up doing it, and I don't mind doing it.
It's like, get out of bed, get out of bed

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and make the bed. Your bed does look better with
the pillows. But I'm with you when you sleep. We
have like a chair next to the bed that you
just put all the pillows in, and then when you
make the bed you just grab all the pillows and
put them back on. Like you said one, they're not comfortable,
so even if you wanted to lay on them, they're

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always like harder. They do improve the look, and that
is something that ladies bring to our life, is that
they add the vibes of the house would look worse
without them. Even if these things that they bring to
the table aren't functional, because you're from a functionality standpoint,

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they bring. The pillows do nothing. You never use them.
You only take and subtract them from the bed when
you actually use the bed. Sometimes they go on the
floor and then they get dirty kind of gross. But
when they're all on the bed, the bed does in theory,
depending on the color of the pillows and the duvet

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and everything look better. But I hear you, I hear you.
That's a you know, big pillows got us by the balls.
The volume