April 3, 2025 • 39 mins
Colin understands why Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sander is falling down draft boards but believes NFL teams would be making a big mistake if that ends up being the case. He explains why he continues to root for Shohei Ohtani as a Dodger following another walk off homerun from the superstar. Plus, NBA insider Ric Bucher joins the show to preview a massive showdown between LeBron James and the Lakers hosting Steph Curry and the Warriors.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh, it's good for a Thursday show. It is a
very good Thursday show. Yeah, Lakers Warriors tonight, actually a
huge regular season game. Things are cooking in La where
show Hey O, Donnie pulled off his magic again last night. Dodgers.
Once you get to the seventh eighth inning, you better
have a strong bullpen er.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's over.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It doesn't matter what the score is. Jmack is joining
me on a Thursday today. So the story, you know,
whether it's politics or sports or the oscars, keep your
eye on the betting odds because it does always like
people in Vegas or people overseas have a little bit
(01:04):
of insight. They're in the rumor business. But a lot
of times where there's smoke, there's fire. So J Mack,
Travis Hunter has moved ahead of Shadure Sanders, the Colorado
quarterback in the betting odds to be the number three pick.
So we know cam Ward's going one and it looks
like Shaduur Sanders is falling. Which is generally the closer
(01:24):
you get to a draft, quarterbacks they move up. Last year,
remember mel Kiper said a week before the draft, bo
Nicks and Michael Pennix are high second round picks. Well
Pennix went eight and bow Nicks went twelve to Denver.
So you know a lot of times you hear as
the draft gets closer, and this year we have a
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scarcity of good quarterbacks and Cleveland and the Giants look
like they really need them. So people aren't into Shador Sanders.
I think there's two things. I think Number one, there's
enough video out there like you had with you had
this with Caleb Williams, where there's some stuff where old
school general managers are not going to like it. You know,
(02:05):
you've got a little bit of immaturity. There's the watch
pos against Arizona State and a couple teams. Old school
guys won't like that. And there's not enough wow like
Caleb Williams had, there's not enough wow to go okay,
forget about it. You know, he's young, nil money, little
into himself whatever, So I think there's not enough wow.
(02:26):
And there's a little bit of the Caleb immaturity stuff
that old school gms don't like. But I will say this,
I go back to something that I think is really important.
Colorado had very weak talent, and even though Shadora was
one in seven against ranked teams while at Colorado, he
was wildly productive nineteen touchdowns, four picks, three hundred yards
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a game completed seventy percent. So he was swimming in
mediocre teammates, and yet he was creating offense on his own,
running and moving. Everybody tells me, I can't move, he's
not athletic. Well I watched he moved. I mean he
at least moved as well as like Bo Knicks, who
I think moves better than people give him credit for.
So no support in college didn't win games necessarily. Eli
(03:11):
Manning wasn't dominating in college football. Patrick Mahomes wasn't winning
games in college football. Josh Allen wasn't winning games in
college football. But they were creating offense out of thin
air with very average teammates. That impresses me. I'm not
saying he's Allan or Mahomes. I'm saying I don't look
at wins and losses. That's not what I look at.
(03:32):
John Elway didn't win a lot of games in college. Okay,
you know, Trevor Lawrence won almost all his games, so
did Tua. So my track record on quarterbacks, I think
I'm pretty good at the quarterback thing. Here's quarterbacks who
people liked much more than me, Zach Wilson. You know,
I didn't like Zach Wilson, Daniel Jones, Mitch Traubisky, Tim
(03:54):
Tebow to a Johnny Manziel, I was like, I'm not
high on these guys. I don't see great first round talent.
I did like guys where there were a lot of skeptics.
I like Justin Herbert, I like Bo Nicks, and I
think I've been proven right to some degree on Sam Darnold.
You know you all think I hated Baker.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I said, Baker is a franchise quarterback. I wouldn't draft
him at number one, and I think I've been proven right.
He's playing on a number one little imature at the time,
he's grown up.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
He's now good.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So I would draft Shadour Sanders if I needed him.
I think you have to reach most of the time
on quarterbacks. I also think where you land if you're
kind of a B plus prospect, which Shahdour is has
a lot to do with it. And Brian Dables an
offensive coach and Kevin Stefanski's a good offensive coach. I
think he would do well with both of those. Here's
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what Todd McShay said yesterday about it.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I like Shedorg Sanders a lot. Doesn't have a huge arm,
does not have mobility. I think that's the biggest mistake
in the evaluation, at least early in the process. His
instincts in terms of the pocket and kind of extending
and drifting and always looking for the whole run and
not taking the short change. Those sorts of things he'll
manage through. And if people don't like him, what they
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say is he has some of the bad habits that
Caleb Williams had because of problems as a rookie. But
he doesn't have the armor and he is a fraction
of the athleticism. But the people who love him love
the fact that he's the best pure passer in terms
of touch, timing, layering the football. And he's the fastest
processor in this class.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, those matter a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Upstairs processes fast and he's accurate.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Isn't that the brock pretty story? Isn't it? Well, Colin
he went, that's the story.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's the guys that struggle processing quickly and are kind
of so so accurate. It's why I'm not a big
fan of Jackson Dart. I think it is accurate. If
you're not super accurate with Lane Kiffin, ash your coach
in college, I do not trust you in the NFL.
So Shador Sanders, his dad was a dB. Okay, he
didn't have all Americans outside of Travis Hunter. He was
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really productive like Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes with average teammates.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I like him. I draft him. Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So it was a sho hey o Tani bobblehead night.
People got in line, like, you know, eight in the
morning and sat there all night, and of course he
delivered eventually. So one of my favorite trends by stars
in sports is, I know money matters. I'm not naive
they want to play for winners. Show, Hey wanted to
play for a winner? You know, Mike Trout is an
(06:25):
all time talent, but he currently leads all active Major
League Baseball players. Mike Trout does in home runs in losses,
He's invisible in Anaheim. I think he should have gone
years ago, back to the East Coast Show. Hey deserved
the Dodgers, big brand, iconic, well funded. They can put
great batters around him. Lebron deserve the Miami Heat Stafford deserve,
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Sean McVay. Sakwan Barkley had earned the right to play
with the great O line in the Philadelphia Eagles. So
the Dodgers lineup. This is really interesting, folks. They are
so good once they get to your bullpen. Dodgers don't
necessarily lead all the time. You can keep the Dodgers'
bats at bay with strong starting pitching. Garrett Cole did
this a couple of times in the World Series. But
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they will eat your bullpen alive, especially if you get
to your second reliever. So last year they led baseball
in comeback wins. Last year, nobody in baseball scored more
runs eighth inning or after. So you know, yesterday is typical.
Dodgers fall behind and they just start chipping away and
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chipping away and then they tie it in the eighth,
and then they win it in the ninth with show
hay And here is the walk off by the legend.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Flop out a.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Center field Harris is back hoot tight.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Every single night they do something that makes us say, wow,
how much fun is that?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yes, you just feel that he's gonna do something special.
And I just like the way he's not pressing, he's
in the strike zone and when he does that, you
know there's just not there's no one better.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, great players, in my opinion, deserve the right for
great moments. You see these iconic photos of d Wade
and Lebron or Luca and Lebron on the dunks. Is
that that's what they deserve. And well, Colin, you're for
big brands. Cooper Flag could play anywhere, but Duke you
can't triple team him.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
There's other players.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And like Sho Heeo Tani with the Angels, if he
would have hit a home run for the Angels last night,
it probably comes in a seven to four loss, right,
And so like to me, part of going to Ohio
State for football is that if you're a running back,
you know you'll have NFL offensive lineman, a highly compensated
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coaching staff. It doesn't mean you chose the easy route
to play at Georgia or Michigan or Notre Dame or
Ohio State or Texas. It means you don't have to
carry the entire franchise. The late Kobe Bryant, you know, people,
he didn't mind being the man. He threatened to go
to Chicago. He didn't want to be the only man.
(09:18):
He's like, you got to give me somebody else. And
so I get when five star recruits in high school
go to like big brands. It's not just the money,
it's I'm playing with other great players. And in baseball,
what you don't want is a Joey Vado in Cincinnati
where Vodo gets the bag, but who's hitting in front
of him? Who's hitting after him? Can you afford pitchers?
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Or is Vado just homering and driving in four runs
in another eight to five loss? Like great players want
to play with great managers. And the Dodgers are so
well funded, Like you know, he could have homeered last night,
but who would hit behind in front of him or
behind him? And if you were paying, o'tm what the
Dodgers did. And the Angels wouldn't have deferred payments. You'd
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have to have you'd have no bullpen. It would be
in the loss and we wouldn't talk about it. So
another great moment for him and another good night in sports.
Tonight Warriors Lakers, Yep, it means a lot. It's a
regular season game. There's about a half dozen to a
dozen all season that you're like, oh, this is about
seating late in the year.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Sometimes those Saturday night games.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know, the Celtics will be hosting the Calves, or
the Celtics are playing in Golden State against the Warriors.
You get those Saturday night ABC games like, oh, is
a big NBA game. This is a really big one.
This is for seeding.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Nuggets lost last night, which helps the Lakers. They're now
third in the West.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
They win this, they put some separation between themselves and the.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
War It's a big Laker game tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
And the Lakers have OKC coming up with two games
and okay, S's going for seventy wins. It's getting heated
in the West. Colin and I like the Lakers chances tonight.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
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Rates none of the bull So Carmelo Anthony was elected
of the Hall of Fame yesterday. He was obviously a
first ballot Hall of Famer. But I was at the
gym yesterday and somebody came up and asked me. It
was a Laker fan. He goes, why is Lucas so
bad defensively? I mean, he's a great athlete. Why is
he so bad defensively? And I said, well, it's like
Carmelo Anthony. I have a belief that when you're so
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gifted early and you can identify it and everybody else
can identify it, you're so gifted early, you know, thirteen
fourteen years old in basketball, which is let's be honest
about the basketball culture.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
In America.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Go get buckets, You get paid, and you get scholarships
for getting buckets. And Carmelo was so gifted offensively at
thirteen to fourteen. Lucas similarly that it can stunt growth elsewhere.
Both are bad defensive players. It's like the running quarterback.
Why develop into a pocket quarterback in high school or college?
You can just run and be successful. Sometimes running quarterbacks
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often never become great in the pocket, or it takes
them a while. Jared Goff knew that was his only
way to succeed. So Luca and Mellow were so gifted.
You know, both were averaging twenty one a game in
the NBA as rookies.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I mean, I mean, I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Carmelo won the Dunk Contest high school McDonald's Natty twenty
two a game, unstoppable at college twenty one a game
in the NBA. You don't really have to develop into
a great defensive player. You're gonna get paid, and you're
gonna get attention. You're gonna get a shoe off the offense. Now,
d Wade played great defense, why because he wasn't as
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gifted offensively. He was a grinder because he knew that
that was his way to attention, money and scholarships. D Wade,
to the end, was never a finesse, smooth offensive player,
not a three point shooting guy. He got his points
on defense and toughness and playing bigger than his size.
Now you could say, well, what about Lebron James. Lebron
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James was not as gifted offensively as Luca or Carmelo
Anthony at sixteen years old. He was a better athlete,
but Lebron James could not shoot a three pointer for years.
He was just a freight train. He was a locomotive.
You couldn't stop him physically. He scored at the rim,
he scored mid range, but he wasn't as smooth as
Luca at fourteen fifteen. Offensively, he couldn't shoot like Carmelo
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Anthony at sixteen or seventeen years old. And so I
think a lot of times you see this, and that
was always my thing with Carmelo.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
It's the burden of early.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Greatness when people can spot it in the basketball culture,
like go get buckets is how you get shoes, fame
and attention. You know, Tony Allen and Ben Wallace are
great defensive players and have shoot deals that I know
of so I think you know, at eighteen, Lucas winning
the euro Cup MVP against older guys, and so you
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don't have to be as well rounded once offensively, you
are identified really in all sports. If you're identified, if
you're known as a great hitter, people stick in right field,
first base, DH right you could hit.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Your way to the bigs.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
There's been a lot of guys who have had great
Major League Baseball careers that are reliability defensively. Put him
at first DHM. And so that's always my take on Carmelo,
is he and Luca. That was always my comp is
that Luca is like a better version of Carmelo. I
think he's a better passer, and I think he's even
a more natural score. He's a better outside shooter. Carmelo
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is an all time offensive score, but never in the
best shape. You know, didn't take a step back. But
you couldn't stop me. It got him twenty six a game.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Nothing you could do.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Couldn't stop in high school, couldn't stop mem in college,
couldn't stop me in the NBA, and his prime.
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
Right, Tonight's the biggest regular season game arguably of the
NBA season. Lakers are playing the Warriors. It's an excellent matchup,
both playing really really well, like Bronz not quite what
he was pre injury, with a honeymoon period with Luca
Rick Bucker's joining us live covering the league since nineteen
ninety three Spot Sports NBA analyst. So you know, it's
(16:23):
I'll just ask you this, who does the game feel
bigger than you do get about a dozen regular season
games a year where you can kind of sense there's
like your playoff feel to him. This is going to
be one of those games, like like like what if
I had to say, who wins tonight?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And why? Who do you like?
Speaker 8 (16:46):
I like the Lakers. I like the Lakers as a matchup.
I like the Lakers overall in terms of their chances
in the Western Conference. You can point to a lot
of different things, but it really comes down to the
star player for each team, the go to player for
each team, and with the Lakers, it's Luka Doncic at
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twenty five, twenty six years old, and simply because of
his size and the way that he plays, it's easier
for him to get what he needs to get. I
can't ignore Steph's age and size and the way the
Warriors work. It's just the degree of difficulty is much higher.
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And when I look at the Western Conference as a whole,
there are a number of teams there with legitimate size
that they're going to have to go through at one
or both of these teams, and the Lakers are better
equipped for that. When I look at their front lines,
even though they both sort of play small at critical times,
Lebron James and Ruey Hatchemura, we're talking about two guys
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that are six eight and six' nine Versus Draymond green
And Jimmy butler at six six and six,' seven and,
then offense the Versatility of Ruy and lebron is just
greater Than what Draymond and.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
Jimmy is so it's not by a.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Whole lot and the synchronicity of these two teams in
the chemistry can certainly change, the dynamic, but overall sizing
up these two teams, ON paper i just Believe the
lakers are better equipped to make a run at at
Least The western.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Conference Finals golden state's interesting because they can still be
Kind of steph, dependent Offensively but Butler andre they've now
got Another veteran Butler and draymond to, get him be
a catalyst and get him, better LOOKS whereas i Feel
like luca could have a bad Night and Lebron And
austin reeves would be fine.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Carrying you?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Is it my take is they Still feel steph? Dependent
offensively do you, believe, that oh.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
One, hundred percent one hundred percent what they got Out
Of jimmy butler is another guy who helps Them facilitate
steph getting what he needs.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
To GET but, i mean let's just look at.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
This team when You Go, steph curry who's the next
most dynamic scorer on. The team the easy answer used
To Be. Klay thompson and then let's go down, the
line like who is it who do you count on
as being that counter Scorer? To STEPH and i think
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most people would Probably Say jimmy butler has come in and.
Done that he's upgraded that number. Two Spot buddy heal
probably was. That Previously Maybe jonathan mingo on, good days
but it was a. Debatable thing But is jimmy really
that kind? Of score he has been in, The postseason
but he's been that when he's been.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
The primary in.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
The postseason so this IS the x, Factor, here colin
which is that chemistry and THE basketball iq And the warriors'
ability to play their system and be greater than the
sum of their part urts is what has made them
special in. The past can they still capture some? Of
that sure they can and would if. They did And
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the lakers are still struggling with trying to find a
Balance between Lebron and Luca and austin in terms of
who's really going to run this at, critical times then
that would tilt things in the. Warriors favor but all,
Things equal i'm still going to Favor.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The lakers so when we look At The western, conference
standings you Know There's oklahoma City and houston are the
classic talented young teams without, a trophy so they play
their butt off in the. REGULAR season i Don't buy houston.
AS much i Think the lakers the other night kind
of showed you if you really, ratcheted up it's a
young team that can miss a lot. OF shots i
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think the thunder are too good and too deep not
to win a couple of. Playoff series but the real
interesting team to me Is. The nuggets so whereas we
both kind of Acknowledge the lakers And the warriors should
pretty do pretty well unless they have to face each
other in the. First, round denver as the best player on,
the planet doesn't play With Another. All star they're not
as deep as. They were they rested people. Last night where?
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Are you maybe they feel DISRESPECTED by sga if he WINS.
The mvp where are? You now in a TEAM that
i thought after, THEY won, i thought are we looking At?
The spurs are we looking at a big? Man dynasty
and they. Just don't they just feel like. They're not they're.
Bad defensively where are?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
You?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
On denver.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
It's only Because Of nikola jokich in the way that
he's playing right NOW that i even give them a
puncher's chance at still being. A contender can their depth
of experience in, the postseason their collective depth, of experience
can that win? OUT potentially i mean we kind of
say the same thing About the lakers that, that experience
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or maybe Even, the warriors their postseason experience is what
gives them an edge and why people believe that they
can knock Off The. Houston rockets are even Possibly The Oklahoma.
City thunder i'm off. On that by, The way i'm
not putting those two teams in the. Same Camp oklahoma
city did win a series last year a. Dept wise,
experience wise we don't talk about it, a lot but
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they actually have more playoff game experience Than The, memphis
grizzlies and we never talk about their lack of postseason
experience when we talk about. Their weaknesses So, the nuggets,
for me, you're right and part of this is if
you look At, stan krounky, the owner this is what.
He does he did it With, the rams he did
it With, The avalanche he's done it With.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
The nuggets he will.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Do everything he'll push all his chips to the middle
of the table in order to win. A championship but
then he gets a little bit frugal, or stingy and
they've quietly let a lot of key pieces go and haven't.
Replaced them so it's only Because of jokic and how
he is playing and the Matchup night mayor that he
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PRESENTS that i still believe they have a Chance If
aaron Gordon And jamal Murray And Michael porter junior play their.
Absolute best but the difference from when they won that championship.
Is Now kristin brown's not A luxury he's An Essential
peyton watson has to give you. Quality minutes they're relying
on a lot of guys as a result Of Losing,
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Contavious caldwell Pope And bruce Brown And, jeff green, you
know proven. Veteran guys now they're relying on luxury items
to be key pieces in, the puzzle and they just
haven't demonstrated that they're quite ready to.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Do, that usually if you look at the history OF,
the nba we rank dynasties higher if they have. Star
power we LOVE The, Mj Dynasty Showtime lakers Shaq, and
kobe And The. Duncan, ones, like yeah it was a
team Down. In texas they were. Pretty good it didn't
have a lot, of SIZZLE and i think. WE are
I think boston's gonna win. THIS thing i Think Between
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brad Stevens And, danny ainge they have a couple of.
Basketball savants this is a roster full of guys that can, all, pass,
dribble shoot and.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Mostly defend mostly it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Is, LOADED yeah i mean they got the best, six
man the best COMBODE and i think because they're Like.
The spurs they don't have. Big personalities we just we're
a little punitive.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
ON that nba is an.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Aesthetic league we like our stars to, be fun, you
know the seventy six Ers WITH. Doctor j that's what.
We LIKE and i THINK they're i think they're gonna
run through. THESE playoffs i think their ability to win
on the road decisively IS like mj stuff Is Like kobe.
Shack stuff that's that's the difference between good. AND great
(24:43):
i think they're gonna run through. The playoffs do you?
Speaker 9 (24:48):
They could they?
Speaker 8 (24:49):
EASILY could i mean part of it is they've been
on cruise control through, this season and everybody's questioning is
that because they, you know they you know how much
effort it's going to take to Repeat in May, and
june and so, they, realize hey we're probably, gonna win
so have to win some games on.
Speaker 9 (25:08):
The road it's not all that important that we have the.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
Best record and then they're still gonna have home court advantage
in the.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
First round so there is some.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Of that the other part is to, your point like
who's their most, Dynamic Player, Jalen brown like that, Doesn't.
Speaker 9 (25:21):
Ring it really.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Doesn't Ring the bell if you're comparing him To a
kobe Or a michael or any of the other. Dynamic
players the QUESTION that, I have colin is are they
going to be what? You're suggesting are they going to
Be The San antonio spurs where they win multiple titles
over a, long stretch or are they going to Be
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The detroit pistons who were also formidable for a YEAR
and i think they went to the conference finals like
six years in a row but only won. One title
so are they going to be really good but not
necessarily dominant and go to that? Next level or are
they going to Be The San antonio spurs where it's
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there if they're not winning back, to backs they're consistently going.
Back there, AND honestly i don't know at this point
because of the way the league is changing and the
difficulty in terms of keeping a team together for a
long period. Of time at some point guys want to
get paid or they want, bigger roles and it becomes
(26:29):
difficult to hold together the same team for a.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Long Time, Rick Buker Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
WARRIORS lakers a really big regular season can.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
Be fun.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
IT'S fun, i mean you don't get a ton of
these this is a. Big deal there's six or seven
guys that Are getting Hall of fame votes or inclusion
like this is a Good one tonight it'll feel like a.
Playoff game teams at this point of the year is
playing starters or playing everybody a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Of minutes there's not a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
In. Between here teams, are, tanking resting or they're all
in for a big. Seeding game and that's what the,
latters is what this, Is Tonight, rick fuker good, Seeing.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
You rick you.
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Speaker 1 (27:16):
That time the Old crystal ball arrives, on set Usually
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tomorrow we Have the FINAL Four nba playoffs around.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
The corner by, the way are you perturbed by The chalky? Final?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
FOUR no i think.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
It's great got a lot, of outrage, faux outrage you know. That,
nonsense oh there's no.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Great games you have to be careful about.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Confirmation bias there's a kind of a legendary college basketball
sports better and he just got crushed in This Turn.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Allan, Boston yeah i'm familiar with. His work, crushed crazy
but he was a good.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Gambler, back, yeah yeah but he loves. Mid majors he
loves the. Little GUY and i think. Said something it's.
Information bias, you're, like oh the, little guy the. Little
guy never Forget, in america everybody it wants to eat.
The rich why do people play? The lottery they want to.
Be rich let's not pretend like, you know, it's so
it's a lot of it's. Just envy and the same
thing is for mid majors is you know those coaches
(28:15):
at mid majors privately they'd ratherether Coach at kentucky and
play with, better coach, better players bigger and. Io budget,
of course so the mid major's always. Been overstated they're
a little, undervalued historically but the nil has.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Changed that, you know the mid.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Major guy gets Good and i'll hear, you Know from dayton,
or something and then all of, a sudden, You know
syracuse Or, you connor like you, know what you could
be our third best starter or a. Best starter so
that's the way. Society Works people talented people. HAVE options
i saw something the other day on TikTok where they
were talking about an average looking man has to swipe
(28:49):
two hundred times on what's, that site tinder tender to
get one cup of coffee with.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
A date what does a woman have?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
To, do WELL it's.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I didn't i, don't know but they said and of
the four of the five times they, get coffee they
won't get a. Second COFFEE so i mean just things
are easier when you have, certain, height. Looks, talent well
the coaches want to coach the, best players and players
want to play with the, best players and so, you
know the nil is a long. Time coming so if
(29:19):
you are a believer in paying, college athletes the same
people that are upset about mid majors Disappearing in march
are also the same people that want athletes to. Get
paid here's the way it Works. In america the minute
you pay, college athletes you're going to have a hierarchy,
(29:41):
very quickly and people are going, to separate and you're
going to find out your. Market value and so you
know that all the people that were fighting for the
little guy to get paid he getting paid now a Lot,
by Kentucky. Not dayton so that's just the.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Market speaking it's Like In Major, league baseball a lot
of these lower, end teams the owners that don't want,
to spend they're essentially farm systems For the yankees And.
The dodgers and that's how it's working. In baseball that's
definitely what's happening in college football.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
And basketball all these small market baseball teams for years
were propped up by the, regional networks which Was the.
Fox Business when fox sold it and other people couldn't
run It, like fox it. Dried up and It's hurt
Pittsburgh and Cincinnati And kansas city And. The mariners so
(30:30):
it's like the truth eventually. Comes out the big gobble
up the small and that's all that's HAPPENING. With nil
the big and the bigger bankrolls, are smaller swallowing up
the Smaller bankrell you see it, in tech you see
it in. Every industry, all right let's do it tomorrow's,
headlines today what's the Headline for Florida and AUBURN t
(30:53):
sec hot bets for hoops? These days TWO great. Sec
teams got some good News For. Auburn aurop it just
came out out the headline will be join Us For.
Crocktail hour gators shots go. DOWN easy I have florida
take It.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Down, auburn however it just was Revealed that Auburn, star
broom the big fella who has just been getting double
doubles in like the, first half he practiced. Fully today
he Will play saturday in the. Final four he misspractice
the last, two days so there was. Some concern remember
the elbow in. The, Knee now broom is an. EXCELLENT
player i think he's like twenty three. Years, Old however
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florida has THE depth i think. To handle they got
four guys that they can throw at the big Fella,
from AUBURN and i give a slight Edge to florida.
The BACKWORK but i will say my favorite player in
this Game, is pettiford the lefty backup, point guard the Freshman.
For auburn he is. So smooth i've been saying he's a.
LOTTERY pick a lot of people, are, like, no no
you watch if He plays clayton to. To toe clayton's
(31:49):
A great florida. POINT guard i think We'll hear petiford
as a. LOTTERY pick I think florida. Narrowly escapes, all
right here's a game that's going to. Be great tomorrow's
Headlines today Huston and. Duke defense what's?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Say?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
You yeah remember after we Did the calcuttai, CAME on,
i said We. Got duke I'm A Duke blue. DEVIL'S
fan i Want a cooper. Flag jersey the Headline, will
Hey the Dukes Of hazzard cougar's wave the, white flag
and That. IS flagg I got cooper Flag in. Duke, Advancing,
however colin some of these analytics guys have put this
in front. Of me you got. TO start i don't
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know if it's.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Out there the.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Top twenty five Defense is duke has faced in the last.
Month zero you have to go back To the clemson
game In early february for a top twenty. Five defense
duke lost, that game so they haven't played a. Good
defense alabama don't, Play defense baylor does not. Play defense
houston's the number one defense in. The country will be.
A test there's a. Big divide the spread. Is five
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colin take. The, Point However, ken palm the number one,
analytics site says this is a two, point game and
there's another analytics site that says It as houston, By
one so there is.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
A divide the publishers will be potentially the best college
basketball game men or women of.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
The, YEAR yes i think it will be. ABSOLUTELY phenomenal
I think. DUKE wins i Don't trust houston and like.
Clutch situations they've played some some. Tough games they have
an edge in the. Back court but how you not
Riding With? COOPER flag i Give.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Me duke tomorrow's? Headlines today so who do you Like The?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
National Championship duke florida IN, THE natty a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Had this you probably. Had it, oh no you didn't
have it in your breath because you Didn't go chalky.
The headline, Will hey kurt to See flush duke cleans
the rim and cuts down. The, Nets Listen john shires
done a. Tremendous job we have an. Awesome team they
got three guys who could go in the. Top twenty
the big seven footer in, The Middle, cooper flag and
then Of, course canipple who's. VERY good i like proc
(33:41):
to The. Guard colin this is just a great. Basketball
team the one interesting thing is they are one of the. Youngest,
teams yeah THAT'S why i didn't a lot of freshmen,
and sophomores and, it's, like oh that's tough going up
against the grown Men of florida and the grown Men.
Of HOUSTON but I think. DUKE prevails i Just Think
cooper flag is. Too good you can't hold him down.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
That Long, All right so big, One Tonight. Lakers warriors.
Let's go what's the headline going to be For The?
Western conference tomorrow's headlines today the Deep Loaded western conference
To The National.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Basketball association so next couple weeks on the show are
going to, be WACKY and i figure we get OUR
nf nba prediction out of the way In. The, west
okay se he's won what sixty? Three games how Many is?
DENVER one i. Don't know the headline For The western
conference Will be luca, Tick fringe lakers going off the
rails on a. Crazy trade. I'M sorry i think they're
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going To The western. Conference. FINALS colin i don't think
anybody's standing in. Their way remember how they had like
a twenty two game sample size where they were the
best defense in the league and then they kind of
cratered and all of a sudd they're not, that. Good
folks they played eight games in. Twelve days they were
exhausted due to the back. To backs lebron, Was hurt reese.
Was hurt everybody's, Healthy, now Colin and i'm just telling
(34:54):
You this lakers team. Totally complete we're having discussions during
the commercial break about who's going To Defend boston reeves
like tonight and in. The playoffs he is a. Tough
matchup You, got, luca obviously You. Have lebron this is
a great litmus test tonight Against. The, warriors, apparently tickets it's,
a tough tough ticket to get. In tonight you probably could, if, you.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Uh well i'm. An, influencer yeah That's.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
How so lakers Are The western conference finals.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
For, sure finally tomorrow's headlines today the More Predictable.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Eastern conference it.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Was supposed To be Celtics, and knicks but Then the
calves have come out of nowhere and they're. A challenger
the headline In the east. Will right i'd rather be
A rich zingis than A. Poor zingis boston breaks bank back.
TO back I just I like boston. TOO much i
think they've gone through the motions a little bit at times,
this season, you, know, like hey we just won, the
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TITLE and i think That's enabled cleveland to look better than.
They are. My knicks brunson still not not. Back yet
they haven't matched up great With. The CELTICS so I
think boston's the team to be In. THE east i
think they cut down the nets again.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
THIS yeah i mean it's they have a couple of
really really, Sharp Gms danny Ainge To, brad stevens and
they just haven't been a lot. OF misses i mean
when when when you know some of This Is giannis
jannis wanted a better running mate with more, offensive firepower
and They Moved. Drew holliday milwaukee loved Him for Dame
and dame's a defensive liability is, getting older, breaking down
(36:22):
and so They Got, drew holliday which was an Upgrade Over.
Marcus smart they were Good With, Marcus smart Brown. And
tatum now they're Better than porzingis had a great Year.
In washington nobody. Paid Attention brad stevens brings him. Over
us he's a he's a. Character issue he. Breaks DOWN
all i know is when he's on, the Floor and
horford's been slinging it. For years And Now peyton pritchard.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Don't We Get. Derek white what a heist.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
That one they are just they Are and i'll say,
it again they they've Got a spurs feel where we're
not going to pay a ton of attention because they're
not a. Flashy team we Love Our, Kobe shack we
love our, you know we Love Our Michael Jordan's Showtime.
Lakers jordan we LIKE our nba champion to. Be, flat
actually in, the Seventies the sonics, Were, Good Washington, golden
state they. Weren't flashy portland. Was great and, that's okay
(37:06):
it's not. A criticism IN, the nfl we don't care
if you're tough and Physical Like, baltimore pittsburgh well you
could Be A super. BOWL champ nba we like a
little flash or we don't give you the credit. YOU
deserve I think I think boston stacked the fact that.
They are they can go INTO any Nba aren now
they could Go into okay see in the final and win.
By eighteen they are they not many teams in the
(37:27):
league can, do that, all right, J mack now you
have tomorrow OFF and i have. Tomorrow off what do
you got planned for the? Big weekend you got. THREE
there i.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Don't, YOU know i got to prepare for. NEXT week
i gotta put some takes in, the holster get, them
ready ready. For action already cooking up. Some stuff. We'll
see i'll tell.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You What, duke houston that is one for.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
The Age To if, Duke loses i'll be kind of sort.
Of devastated then it, Loses luster like are you fired
up About A houston auburn final, OR.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Well I picked auburn, to WIN so i would be.
Would yeah, you know it's the Thing about Florida, In,
auburn florida as good as, they are they're one of
those teams that can go come down and give you
four or five minutes of, wasted possessions, you know and
college teams do that.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
A lot. Duke doesn't duke doesn't give you.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Wasted possessions where, you Know, with duke they know what,
they are they lean into what, they are and they've
got a. Sensational player and that's what that's really the
difference of having a superstar IN the nba is and
That's what milwaukee. Struggles, With yes jannis is, their star
but he's a liability at the free.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Throw line so do you always go to.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Him late, you know the Shack without kobe Or d
wade is really. A force but you didn't want him
at the free, throw line and, and so and That's
why duncan was great when He had Mano And Tony
tony parker because they could hit the. Free throws and
so that that, In college duke Has, the okay let's
let we need three straight. Great possessions you just give
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the Ball To cooper flag and get out of. The
way And EVEN auburn, i like but they have fewer
of them because they have two guys that can get
a bucket is a lot of these, college teams like
even the good Teams like Florida, or houston you can
get into a little bit, of man we've gone four.
Straight possessions we have not gotten a good look.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
At all the other Concern with duke is they haven't
played a close game in. A while they haven't had
like down to. The wire they had some earlier this
Year When cooper flag was eighteen and they ended up
losing a couple. OF those I think kansas, Was ONE
but i don't really. HAVE concerns i think they shoot free.
Throws great one of the best free throw shooting teams
in the country like should.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Be, fine yeah my Guess is i'm Gonna Go. Duke
auburn I'll Go, duke florida. All RIGHT so i heard
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh, it's good for a Thursday show. It is a
very good Thursday show. Yeah, Lakers Warriors tonight, actually a
huge regular season game. Things are cooking in La where
show Hey O, Donnie pulled off his magic again last night. Dodgers.
Once you get to the seventh eighth inning, you better
have a strong bullpen er.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
It's over.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It doesn't matter what the score is. Jmack is joining
me on a Thursday today. So the story, you know,
whether it's politics or sports or the oscars, keep your
eye on the betting odds because it does always like
people in Vegas or people overseas have a little bit
(01:04):
of insight. They're in the rumor business. But a lot
of times where there's smoke, there's fire. So J Mack,
Travis Hunter has moved ahead of Shadure Sanders, the Colorado
quarterback in the betting odds to be the number three pick.
So we know cam Ward's going one and it looks
like Shaduur Sanders is falling. Which is generally the closer
(01:24):
you get to a draft, quarterbacks they move up. Last year,
remember mel Kiper said a week before the draft, bo
Nicks and Michael Pennix are high second round picks. Well
Pennix went eight and bow Nicks went twelve to Denver.
So you know a lot of times you hear as
the draft gets closer, and this year we have a
(01:45):
scarcity of good quarterbacks and Cleveland and the Giants look
like they really need them. So people aren't into Shador Sanders.
I think there's two things. I think Number one, there's
enough video out there like you had with you had
this with Caleb Williams, where there's some stuff where old
school general managers are not going to like it. You know,
(02:05):
you've got a little bit of immaturity. There's the watch
pos against Arizona State and a couple teams. Old school
guys won't like that. And there's not enough wow like
Caleb Williams had, there's not enough wow to go okay,
forget about it. You know, he's young, nil money, little
into himself whatever, So I think there's not enough wow.
(02:26):
And there's a little bit of the Caleb immaturity stuff
that old school gms don't like. But I will say this,
I go back to something that I think is really important.
Colorado had very weak talent, and even though Shadora was
one in seven against ranked teams while at Colorado, he
was wildly productive nineteen touchdowns, four picks, three hundred yards
(02:47):
a game completed seventy percent. So he was swimming in
mediocre teammates, and yet he was creating offense on his own,
running and moving. Everybody tells me, I can't move, he's
not athletic. Well I watched he moved. I mean he
at least moved as well as like Bo Knicks, who
I think moves better than people give him credit for.
So no support in college didn't win games necessarily. Eli
(03:11):
Manning wasn't dominating in college football. Patrick Mahomes wasn't winning
games in college football. Josh Allen wasn't winning games in
college football. But they were creating offense out of thin
air with very average teammates. That impresses me. I'm not
saying he's Allan or Mahomes. I'm saying I don't look
at wins and losses. That's not what I look at.
(03:32):
John Elway didn't win a lot of games in college. Okay,
you know, Trevor Lawrence won almost all his games, so
did Tua. So my track record on quarterbacks, I think
I'm pretty good at the quarterback thing. Here's quarterbacks who
people liked much more than me, Zach Wilson. You know,
I didn't like Zach Wilson, Daniel Jones, Mitch Traubisky, Tim
(03:54):
Tebow to a Johnny Manziel, I was like, I'm not
high on these guys. I don't see great first round talent.
I did like guys where there were a lot of skeptics.
I like Justin Herbert, I like Bo Nicks, and I
think I've been proven right to some degree on Sam Darnold.
You know you all think I hated Baker.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I said, Baker is a franchise quarterback. I wouldn't draft
him at number one, and I think I've been proven right.
He's playing on a number one little imature at the time,
he's grown up.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
He's now good.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So I would draft Shadour Sanders if I needed him.
I think you have to reach most of the time
on quarterbacks. I also think where you land if you're
kind of a B plus prospect, which Shahdour is has
a lot to do with it. And Brian Dables an
offensive coach and Kevin Stefanski's a good offensive coach. I
think he would do well with both of those. Here's
(04:42):
what Todd McShay said yesterday about it.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I like Shedorg Sanders a lot. Doesn't have a huge arm,
does not have mobility. I think that's the biggest mistake
in the evaluation, at least early in the process. His
instincts in terms of the pocket and kind of extending
and drifting and always looking for the whole run and
not taking the short change. Those sorts of things he'll
manage through. And if people don't like him, what they
(05:06):
say is he has some of the bad habits that
Caleb Williams had because of problems as a rookie. But
he doesn't have the armor and he is a fraction
of the athleticism. But the people who love him love
the fact that he's the best pure passer in terms
of touch, timing, layering the football. And he's the fastest
processor in this class.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, those matter a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Upstairs processes fast and he's accurate.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Isn't that the brock pretty story? Isn't it? Well, Colin
he went, that's the story.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's the guys that struggle processing quickly and are kind
of so so accurate. It's why I'm not a big
fan of Jackson Dart. I think it is accurate. If
you're not super accurate with Lane Kiffin, ash your coach
in college, I do not trust you in the NFL.
So Shador Sanders, his dad was a dB. Okay, he
didn't have all Americans outside of Travis Hunter. He was
(05:58):
really productive like Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes with average teammates.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I like him. I draft him. Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So it was a sho hey o Tani bobblehead night.
People got in line, like, you know, eight in the
morning and sat there all night, and of course he
delivered eventually. So one of my favorite trends by stars
in sports is, I know money matters. I'm not naive
they want to play for winners. Show, Hey wanted to
play for a winner? You know, Mike Trout is an
(06:25):
all time talent, but he currently leads all active Major
League Baseball players. Mike Trout does in home runs in losses,
He's invisible in Anaheim. I think he should have gone
years ago, back to the East Coast Show. Hey deserved
the Dodgers, big brand, iconic, well funded. They can put
great batters around him. Lebron deserve the Miami Heat Stafford deserve,
(06:48):
Sean McVay. Sakwan Barkley had earned the right to play
with the great O line in the Philadelphia Eagles. So
the Dodgers lineup. This is really interesting, folks. They are
so good once they get to your bullpen. Dodgers don't
necessarily lead all the time. You can keep the Dodgers'
bats at bay with strong starting pitching. Garrett Cole did
this a couple of times in the World Series. But
(07:10):
they will eat your bullpen alive, especially if you get
to your second reliever. So last year they led baseball
in comeback wins. Last year, nobody in baseball scored more
runs eighth inning or after. So you know, yesterday is typical.
Dodgers fall behind and they just start chipping away and
(07:30):
chipping away and then they tie it in the eighth,
and then they win it in the ninth with show
hay And here is the walk off by the legend.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Flop out a.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Center field Harris is back hoot tight.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Every single night they do something that makes us say, wow,
how much fun is that?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yes, you just feel that he's gonna do something special.
And I just like the way he's not pressing, he's
in the strike zone and when he does that, you
know there's just not there's no one better.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, great players, in my opinion, deserve the right for
great moments. You see these iconic photos of d Wade
and Lebron or Luca and Lebron on the dunks. Is
that that's what they deserve. And well, Colin, you're for
big brands. Cooper Flag could play anywhere, but Duke you
can't triple team him.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
There's other players.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And like Sho Heeo Tani with the Angels, if he
would have hit a home run for the Angels last night,
it probably comes in a seven to four loss, right,
And so like to me, part of going to Ohio
State for football is that if you're a running back,
you know you'll have NFL offensive lineman, a highly compensated
(08:57):
coaching staff. It doesn't mean you chose the easy route
to play at Georgia or Michigan or Notre Dame or
Ohio State or Texas. It means you don't have to
carry the entire franchise. The late Kobe Bryant, you know, people,
he didn't mind being the man. He threatened to go
to Chicago. He didn't want to be the only man.
(09:18):
He's like, you got to give me somebody else. And
so I get when five star recruits in high school
go to like big brands. It's not just the money,
it's I'm playing with other great players. And in baseball,
what you don't want is a Joey Vado in Cincinnati
where Vodo gets the bag, but who's hitting in front
of him? Who's hitting after him? Can you afford pitchers?
(09:42):
Or is Vado just homering and driving in four runs
in another eight to five loss? Like great players want
to play with great managers. And the Dodgers are so
well funded, Like you know, he could have homeered last night,
but who would hit behind in front of him or
behind him? And if you were paying, o'tm what the
Dodgers did. And the Angels wouldn't have deferred payments. You'd
(10:03):
have to have you'd have no bullpen. It would be
in the loss and we wouldn't talk about it. So
another great moment for him and another good night in sports.
Tonight Warriors Lakers, Yep, it means a lot. It's a
regular season game. There's about a half dozen to a
dozen all season that you're like, oh, this is about
seating late in the year.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Sometimes those Saturday night games.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know, the Celtics will be hosting the Calves, or
the Celtics are playing in Golden State against the Warriors.
You get those Saturday night ABC games like, oh, is
a big NBA game. This is a really big one.
This is for seeding.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Nuggets lost last night, which helps the Lakers. They're now
third in the West.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
They win this, they put some separation between themselves and the.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
War It's a big Laker game tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
And the Lakers have OKC coming up with two games
and okay, S's going for seventy wins. It's getting heated
in the West. Colin and I like the Lakers chances tonight.
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Rates none of the bull So Carmelo Anthony was elected
of the Hall of Fame yesterday. He was obviously a
first ballot Hall of Famer. But I was at the
gym yesterday and somebody came up and asked me. It
was a Laker fan. He goes, why is Lucas so
bad defensively? I mean, he's a great athlete. Why is
he so bad defensively? And I said, well, it's like
Carmelo Anthony. I have a belief that when you're so
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gifted early and you can identify it and everybody else
can identify it, you're so gifted early, you know, thirteen
fourteen years old in basketball, which is let's be honest
about the basketball culture.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
In America.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Go get buckets, You get paid, and you get scholarships
for getting buckets. And Carmelo was so gifted offensively at
thirteen to fourteen. Lucas similarly that it can stunt growth elsewhere.
Both are bad defensive players. It's like the running quarterback.
Why develop into a pocket quarterback in high school or college?
You can just run and be successful. Sometimes running quarterbacks
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often never become great in the pocket, or it takes
them a while. Jared Goff knew that was his only
way to succeed. So Luca and Mellow were so gifted.
You know, both were averaging twenty one a game in
the NBA as rookies.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I mean, I mean, I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Carmelo won the Dunk Contest high school McDonald's Natty twenty
two a game, unstoppable at college twenty one a game
in the NBA. You don't really have to develop into
a great defensive player. You're gonna get paid, and you're
gonna get attention. You're gonna get a shoe off the offense. Now,
d Wade played great defense, why because he wasn't as
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gifted offensively. He was a grinder because he knew that
that was his way to attention, money and scholarships. D Wade,
to the end, was never a finesse, smooth offensive player,
not a three point shooting guy. He got his points
on defense and toughness and playing bigger than his size.
Now you could say, well, what about Lebron James. Lebron
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James was not as gifted offensively as Luca or Carmelo
Anthony at sixteen years old. He was a better athlete,
but Lebron James could not shoot a three pointer for years.
He was just a freight train. He was a locomotive.
You couldn't stop him physically. He scored at the rim,
he scored mid range, but he wasn't as smooth as
Luca at fourteen fifteen. Offensively, he couldn't shoot like Carmelo
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Anthony at sixteen or seventeen years old. And so I
think a lot of times you see this, and that
was always my thing with Carmelo.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
It's the burden of early.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Greatness when people can spot it in the basketball culture,
like go get buckets is how you get shoes, fame
and attention. You know, Tony Allen and Ben Wallace are
great defensive players and have shoot deals that I know
of so I think you know, at eighteen, Lucas winning
the euro Cup MVP against older guys, and so you
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don't have to be as well rounded once offensively, you
are identified really in all sports. If you're identified, if
you're known as a great hitter, people stick in right field,
first base, DH right you could hit.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Your way to the bigs.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
There's been a lot of guys who have had great
Major League Baseball careers that are reliability defensively. Put him
at first DHM. And so that's always my take on Carmelo,
is he and Luca. That was always my comp is
that Luca is like a better version of Carmelo. I
think he's a better passer, and I think he's even
a more natural score. He's a better outside shooter. Carmelo
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is an all time offensive score, but never in the
best shape. You know, didn't take a step back. But
you couldn't stop me. It got him twenty six a game.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Nothing you could do.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Couldn't stop in high school, couldn't stop mem in college,
couldn't stop me in the NBA, and his prime.
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
Right, Tonight's the biggest regular season game arguably of the
NBA season. Lakers are playing the Warriors. It's an excellent matchup,
both playing really really well, like Bronz not quite what
he was pre injury, with a honeymoon period with Luca
Rick Bucker's joining us live covering the league since nineteen
ninety three Spot Sports NBA analyst. So you know, it's
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I'll just ask you this, who does the game feel
bigger than you do get about a dozen regular season
games a year where you can kind of sense there's
like your playoff feel to him. This is going to
be one of those games, like like like what if
I had to say, who wins tonight?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And why? Who do you like?
Speaker 8 (16:46):
I like the Lakers. I like the Lakers as a matchup.
I like the Lakers overall in terms of their chances
in the Western Conference. You can point to a lot
of different things, but it really comes down to the
star player for each team, the go to player for
each team, and with the Lakers, it's Luka Doncic at
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twenty five, twenty six years old, and simply because of
his size and the way that he plays, it's easier
for him to get what he needs to get. I
can't ignore Steph's age and size and the way the
Warriors work. It's just the degree of difficulty is much higher.
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And when I look at the Western Conference as a whole,
there are a number of teams there with legitimate size
that they're going to have to go through at one
or both of these teams, and the Lakers are better
equipped for that. When I look at their front lines,
even though they both sort of play small at critical times,
Lebron James and Ruey Hatchemura, we're talking about two guys
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that are six eight and six' nine Versus Draymond green
And Jimmy butler at six six and six,' seven and,
then offense the Versatility of Ruy and lebron is just
greater Than what Draymond and.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
Jimmy is so it's not by a.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Whole lot and the synchronicity of these two teams in
the chemistry can certainly change, the dynamic, but overall sizing
up these two teams, ON paper i just Believe the
lakers are better equipped to make a run at at
Least The western.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Conference Finals golden state's interesting because they can still be
Kind of steph, dependent Offensively but Butler andre they've now
got Another veteran Butler and draymond to, get him be
a catalyst and get him, better LOOKS whereas i Feel
like luca could have a bad Night and Lebron And
austin reeves would be fine.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Carrying you?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Is it my take is they Still feel steph? Dependent
offensively do you, believe, that oh.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
One, hundred percent one hundred percent what they got Out
Of jimmy butler is another guy who helps Them facilitate
steph getting what he needs.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
To GET but, i mean let's just look at.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
This team when You Go, steph curry who's the next
most dynamic scorer on. The team the easy answer used
To Be. Klay thompson and then let's go down, the
line like who is it who do you count on
as being that counter Scorer? To STEPH and i think
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most people would Probably Say jimmy butler has come in and.
Done that he's upgraded that number. Two Spot buddy heal
probably was. That Previously Maybe jonathan mingo on, good days
but it was a. Debatable thing But is jimmy really
that kind? Of score he has been in, The postseason
but he's been that when he's been.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
The primary in.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
The postseason so this IS the x, Factor, here colin
which is that chemistry and THE basketball iq And the warriors'
ability to play their system and be greater than the
sum of their part urts is what has made them
special in. The past can they still capture some? Of
that sure they can and would if. They did And
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the lakers are still struggling with trying to find a
Balance between Lebron and Luca and austin in terms of
who's really going to run this at, critical times then
that would tilt things in the. Warriors favor but all,
Things equal i'm still going to Favor.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The lakers so when we look At The western, conference
standings you Know There's oklahoma City and houston are the
classic talented young teams without, a trophy so they play
their butt off in the. REGULAR season i Don't buy houston.
AS much i Think the lakers the other night kind
of showed you if you really, ratcheted up it's a
young team that can miss a lot. OF shots i
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think the thunder are too good and too deep not
to win a couple of. Playoff series but the real
interesting team to me Is. The nuggets so whereas we
both kind of Acknowledge the lakers And the warriors should
pretty do pretty well unless they have to face each
other in the. First, round denver as the best player on,
the planet doesn't play With Another. All star they're not
as deep as. They were they rested people. Last night where?
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Are you maybe they feel DISRESPECTED by sga if he WINS.
The mvp where are? You now in a TEAM that
i thought after, THEY won, i thought are we looking At?
The spurs are we looking at a big? Man dynasty
and they. Just don't they just feel like. They're not they're.
Bad defensively where are?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
You?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
On denver.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
It's only Because Of nikola jokich in the way that
he's playing right NOW that i even give them a
puncher's chance at still being. A contender can their depth
of experience in, the postseason their collective depth, of experience
can that win? OUT potentially i mean we kind of
say the same thing About the lakers that, that experience
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or maybe Even, the warriors their postseason experience is what
gives them an edge and why people believe that they
can knock Off The. Houston rockets are even Possibly The Oklahoma.
City thunder i'm off. On that by, The way i'm
not putting those two teams in the. Same Camp oklahoma
city did win a series last year a. Dept wise,
experience wise we don't talk about it, a lot but
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they actually have more playoff game experience Than The, memphis
grizzlies and we never talk about their lack of postseason
experience when we talk about. Their weaknesses So, the nuggets,
for me, you're right and part of this is if
you look At, stan krounky, the owner this is what.
He does he did it With, the rams he did
it With, The avalanche he's done it With.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
The nuggets he will.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Do everything he'll push all his chips to the middle
of the table in order to win. A championship but
then he gets a little bit frugal, or stingy and
they've quietly let a lot of key pieces go and haven't.
Replaced them so it's only Because of jokic and how
he is playing and the Matchup night mayor that he
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PRESENTS that i still believe they have a Chance If
aaron Gordon And jamal Murray And Michael porter junior play their.
Absolute best but the difference from when they won that championship.
Is Now kristin brown's not A luxury he's An Essential
peyton watson has to give you. Quality minutes they're relying
on a lot of guys as a result Of Losing,
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Contavious caldwell Pope And bruce Brown And, jeff green, you
know proven. Veteran guys now they're relying on luxury items
to be key pieces in, the puzzle and they just
haven't demonstrated that they're quite ready to.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Do, that usually if you look at the history OF,
the nba we rank dynasties higher if they have. Star
power we LOVE The, Mj Dynasty Showtime lakers Shaq, and
kobe And The. Duncan, ones, like yeah it was a
team Down. In texas they were. Pretty good it didn't
have a lot, of SIZZLE and i think. WE are
I think boston's gonna win. THIS thing i Think Between
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brad Stevens And, danny ainge they have a couple of.
Basketball savants this is a roster full of guys that can, all, pass,
dribble shoot and.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Mostly defend mostly it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Is, LOADED yeah i mean they got the best, six
man the best COMBODE and i think because they're Like.
The spurs they don't have. Big personalities we just we're
a little punitive.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
ON that nba is an.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Aesthetic league we like our stars to, be fun, you
know the seventy six Ers WITH. Doctor j that's what.
We LIKE and i THINK they're i think they're gonna
run through. THESE playoffs i think their ability to win
on the road decisively IS like mj stuff Is Like kobe.
Shack stuff that's that's the difference between good. AND great
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i think they're gonna run through. The playoffs do you?
Speaker 9 (24:48):
They could they?
Speaker 8 (24:49):
EASILY could i mean part of it is they've been
on cruise control through, this season and everybody's questioning is
that because they, you know they you know how much
effort it's going to take to Repeat in May, and
june and so, they, realize hey we're probably, gonna win
so have to win some games on.
Speaker 9 (25:08):
The road it's not all that important that we have the.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
Best record and then they're still gonna have home court advantage
in the.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
First round so there is some.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Of that the other part is to, your point like
who's their most, Dynamic Player, Jalen brown like that, Doesn't.
Speaker 9 (25:21):
Ring it really.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Doesn't Ring the bell if you're comparing him To a
kobe Or a michael or any of the other. Dynamic
players the QUESTION that, I have colin is are they
going to be what? You're suggesting are they going to
Be The San antonio spurs where they win multiple titles
over a, long stretch or are they going to Be
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The detroit pistons who were also formidable for a YEAR
and i think they went to the conference finals like
six years in a row but only won. One title
so are they going to be really good but not
necessarily dominant and go to that? Next level or are
they going to Be The San antonio spurs where it's
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there if they're not winning back, to backs they're consistently going.
Back there, AND honestly i don't know at this point
because of the way the league is changing and the
difficulty in terms of keeping a team together for a
long period. Of time at some point guys want to
get paid or they want, bigger roles and it becomes
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difficult to hold together the same team for a.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Long Time, Rick Buker Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
WARRIORS lakers a really big regular season can.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
Be fun.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
IT'S fun, i mean you don't get a ton of
these this is a. Big deal there's six or seven
guys that Are getting Hall of fame votes or inclusion
like this is a Good one tonight it'll feel like a.
Playoff game teams at this point of the year is
playing starters or playing everybody a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Of minutes there's not a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
In. Between here teams, are, tanking resting or they're all
in for a big. Seeding game and that's what the,
latters is what this, Is Tonight, rick fuker good, Seeing.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
You rick you.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
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Speaker 1 (27:16):
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tomorrow we Have the FINAL Four nba playoffs around.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
The corner by, the way are you perturbed by The chalky? Final?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
FOUR no i think.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
It's great got a lot, of outrage, faux outrage you know. That,
nonsense oh there's no.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Great games you have to be careful about.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Confirmation bias there's a kind of a legendary college basketball
sports better and he just got crushed in This Turn.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Allan, Boston yeah i'm familiar with. His work, crushed crazy
but he was a good.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Gambler, back, yeah yeah but he loves. Mid majors he
loves the. Little GUY and i think. Said something it's.
Information bias, you're, like oh the, little guy the. Little
guy never Forget, in america everybody it wants to eat.
The rich why do people play? The lottery they want to.
Be rich let's not pretend like, you know, it's so
it's a lot of it's. Just envy and the same
thing is for mid majors is you know those coaches
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at mid majors privately they'd ratherether Coach at kentucky and
play with, better coach, better players bigger and. Io budget,
of course so the mid major's always. Been overstated they're
a little, undervalued historically but the nil has.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Changed that, you know the mid.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Major guy gets Good and i'll hear, you Know from dayton,
or something and then all of, a sudden, You know
syracuse Or, you connor like you, know what you could
be our third best starter or a. Best starter so
that's the way. Society Works people talented people. HAVE options
i saw something the other day on TikTok where they
were talking about an average looking man has to swipe
(28:49):
two hundred times on what's, that site tinder tender to
get one cup of coffee with.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
A date what does a woman have?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
To, do WELL it's.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I didn't i, don't know but they said and of
the four of the five times they, get coffee they
won't get a. Second COFFEE so i mean just things
are easier when you have, certain, height. Looks, talent well
the coaches want to coach the, best players and players
want to play with the, best players and so, you
know the nil is a long. Time coming so if
(29:19):
you are a believer in paying, college athletes the same
people that are upset about mid majors Disappearing in march
are also the same people that want athletes to. Get
paid here's the way it Works. In america the minute
you pay, college athletes you're going to have a hierarchy,
(29:41):
very quickly and people are going, to separate and you're
going to find out your. Market value and so you
know that all the people that were fighting for the
little guy to get paid he getting paid now a Lot,
by Kentucky. Not dayton so that's just the.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Market speaking it's Like In Major, league baseball a lot
of these lower, end teams the owners that don't want,
to spend they're essentially farm systems For the yankees And.
The dodgers and that's how it's working. In baseball that's
definitely what's happening in college football.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
And basketball all these small market baseball teams for years
were propped up by the, regional networks which Was the.
Fox Business when fox sold it and other people couldn't
run It, like fox it. Dried up and It's hurt
Pittsburgh and Cincinnati And kansas city And. The mariners so
(30:30):
it's like the truth eventually. Comes out the big gobble
up the small and that's all that's HAPPENING. With nil
the big and the bigger bankrolls, are smaller swallowing up
the Smaller bankrell you see it, in tech you see
it in. Every industry, all right let's do it tomorrow's,
headlines today what's the Headline for Florida and AUBURN t
(30:53):
sec hot bets for hoops? These days TWO great. Sec
teams got some good News For. Auburn aurop it just
came out out the headline will be join Us For.
Crocktail hour gators shots go. DOWN easy I have florida
take It.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Down, auburn however it just was Revealed that Auburn, star
broom the big fella who has just been getting double
doubles in like the, first half he practiced. Fully today
he Will play saturday in the. Final four he misspractice
the last, two days so there was. Some concern remember
the elbow in. The, Knee now broom is an. EXCELLENT
player i think he's like twenty three. Years, Old however
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florida has THE depth i think. To handle they got
four guys that they can throw at the big Fella,
from AUBURN and i give a slight Edge to florida.
The BACKWORK but i will say my favorite player in
this Game, is pettiford the lefty backup, point guard the Freshman.
For auburn he is. So smooth i've been saying he's a.
LOTTERY pick a lot of people, are, like, no no
you watch if He plays clayton to. To toe clayton's
(31:49):
A great florida. POINT guard i think We'll hear petiford
as a. LOTTERY pick I think florida. Narrowly escapes, all
right here's a game that's going to. Be great tomorrow's
Headlines today Huston and. Duke defense what's?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Say?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
You yeah remember after we Did the calcuttai, CAME on,
i said We. Got duke I'm A Duke blue. DEVIL'S
fan i Want a cooper. Flag jersey the Headline, will
Hey the Dukes Of hazzard cougar's wave the, white flag
and That. IS flagg I got cooper Flag in. Duke, Advancing,
however colin some of these analytics guys have put this
in front. Of me you got. TO start i don't
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know if it's.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Out there the.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Top twenty five Defense is duke has faced in the last.
Month zero you have to go back To the clemson
game In early february for a top twenty. Five defense
duke lost, that game so they haven't played a. Good
defense alabama don't, Play defense baylor does not. Play defense
houston's the number one defense in. The country will be.
A test there's a. Big divide the spread. Is five
(32:45):
colin take. The, Point However, ken palm the number one,
analytics site says this is a two, point game and
there's another analytics site that says It as houston, By
one so there is.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
A divide the publishers will be potentially the best college
basketball game men or women of.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
The, YEAR yes i think it will be. ABSOLUTELY phenomenal
I think. DUKE wins i Don't trust houston and like.
Clutch situations they've played some some. Tough games they have
an edge in the. Back court but how you not
Riding With? COOPER flag i Give.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Me duke tomorrow's? Headlines today so who do you Like The?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
National Championship duke florida IN, THE natty a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Had this you probably. Had it, oh no you didn't
have it in your breath because you Didn't go chalky.
The headline, Will hey kurt to See flush duke cleans
the rim and cuts down. The, Nets Listen john shires
done a. Tremendous job we have an. Awesome team they
got three guys who could go in the. Top twenty
the big seven footer in, The Middle, cooper flag and
then Of, course canipple who's. VERY good i like proc
(33:41):
to The. Guard colin this is just a great. Basketball
team the one interesting thing is they are one of the. Youngest,
teams yeah THAT'S why i didn't a lot of freshmen,
and sophomores and, it's, like oh that's tough going up
against the grown Men of florida and the grown Men.
Of HOUSTON but I think. DUKE prevails i Just Think
cooper flag is. Too good you can't hold him down.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
That Long, All right so big, One Tonight. Lakers warriors.
Let's go what's the headline going to be For The?
Western conference tomorrow's headlines today the Deep Loaded western conference
To The National.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Basketball association so next couple weeks on the show are
going to, be WACKY and i figure we get OUR
nf nba prediction out of the way In. The, west
okay se he's won what sixty? Three games how Many is?
DENVER one i. Don't know the headline For The western
conference Will be luca, Tick fringe lakers going off the
rails on a. Crazy trade. I'M sorry i think they're
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going To The western. Conference. FINALS colin i don't think
anybody's standing in. Their way remember how they had like
a twenty two game sample size where they were the
best defense in the league and then they kind of
cratered and all of a sudd they're not, that. Good
folks they played eight games in. Twelve days they were
exhausted due to the back. To backs lebron, Was hurt reese.
Was hurt everybody's, Healthy, now Colin and i'm just telling
(34:54):
You this lakers team. Totally complete we're having discussions during
the commercial break about who's going To Defend boston reeves
like tonight and in. The playoffs he is a. Tough
matchup You, got, luca obviously You. Have lebron this is
a great litmus test tonight Against. The, warriors, apparently tickets it's,
a tough tough ticket to get. In tonight you probably could, if, you.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Uh well i'm. An, influencer yeah That's.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
How so lakers Are The western conference finals.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
For, sure finally tomorrow's headlines today the More Predictable.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Eastern conference it.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Was supposed To be Celtics, and knicks but Then the
calves have come out of nowhere and they're. A challenger
the headline In the east. Will right i'd rather be
A rich zingis than A. Poor zingis boston breaks bank back.
TO back I just I like boston. TOO much i
think they've gone through the motions a little bit at times,
this season, you, know, like hey we just won, the
(35:47):
TITLE and i think That's enabled cleveland to look better than.
They are. My knicks brunson still not not. Back yet
they haven't matched up great With. The CELTICS so I
think boston's the team to be In. THE east i
think they cut down the nets again.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
THIS yeah i mean it's they have a couple of
really really, Sharp Gms danny Ainge To, brad stevens and
they just haven't been a lot. OF misses i mean
when when when you know some of This Is giannis
jannis wanted a better running mate with more, offensive firepower
and They Moved. Drew holliday milwaukee loved Him for Dame
and dame's a defensive liability is, getting older, breaking down
(36:22):
and so They Got, drew holliday which was an Upgrade Over.
Marcus smart they were Good With, Marcus smart Brown. And
tatum now they're Better than porzingis had a great Year.
In washington nobody. Paid Attention brad stevens brings him. Over
us he's a he's a. Character issue he. Breaks DOWN
all i know is when he's on, the Floor and
horford's been slinging it. For years And Now peyton pritchard.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Don't We Get. Derek white what a heist.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
That one they are just they Are and i'll say,
it again they they've Got a spurs feel where we're
not going to pay a ton of attention because they're
not a. Flashy team we Love Our, Kobe shack we
love our, you know we Love Our Michael Jordan's Showtime.
Lakers jordan we LIKE our nba champion to. Be, flat
actually in, the Seventies the sonics, Were, Good Washington, golden
state they. Weren't flashy portland. Was great and, that's okay
(37:06):
it's not. A criticism IN, the nfl we don't care
if you're tough and Physical Like, baltimore pittsburgh well you
could Be A super. BOWL champ nba we like a
little flash or we don't give you the credit. YOU
deserve I think I think boston stacked the fact that.
They are they can go INTO any Nba aren now
they could Go into okay see in the final and win.
By eighteen they are they not many teams in the
(37:27):
league can, do that, all right, J mack now you
have tomorrow OFF and i have. Tomorrow off what do
you got planned for the? Big weekend you got. THREE
there i.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Don't, YOU know i got to prepare for. NEXT week
i gotta put some takes in, the holster get, them
ready ready. For action already cooking up. Some stuff. We'll
see i'll tell.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You What, duke houston that is one for.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
The Age To if, Duke loses i'll be kind of sort.
Of devastated then it, Loses luster like are you fired
up About A houston auburn final, OR.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Well I picked auburn, to WIN so i would be.
Would yeah, you know it's the Thing about Florida, In,
auburn florida as good as, they are they're one of
those teams that can go come down and give you
four or five minutes of, wasted possessions, you know and
college teams do that.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
A lot. Duke doesn't duke doesn't give you.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Wasted possessions where, you Know, with duke they know what,
they are they lean into what, they are and they've
got a. Sensational player and that's what that's really the
difference of having a superstar IN the nba is and
That's what milwaukee. Struggles, With yes jannis is, their star
but he's a liability at the free.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Throw line so do you always go to.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Him late, you know the Shack without kobe Or d
wade is really. A force but you didn't want him
at the free, throw line and, and so and That's
why duncan was great when He had Mano And Tony
tony parker because they could hit the. Free throws and
so that that, In college duke Has, the okay let's
let we need three straight. Great possessions you just give
(38:58):
the Ball To cooper flag and get out of. The
way And EVEN auburn, i like but they have fewer
of them because they have two guys that can get
a bucket is a lot of these, college teams like
even the good Teams like Florida, or houston you can
get into a little bit, of man we've gone four.
Straight possessions we have not gotten a good look.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
At all the other Concern with duke is they haven't
played a close game in. A while they haven't had
like down to. The wire they had some earlier this
Year When cooper flag was eighteen and they ended up
losing a couple. OF those I think kansas, Was ONE
but i don't really. HAVE concerns i think they shoot free.
Throws great one of the best free throw shooting teams
in the country like should.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Be, fine yeah my Guess is i'm Gonna Go. Duke
auburn I'll Go, duke florida. All RIGHT so i heard
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