April 3, 2025 • 32 mins
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
All right. Tonight's the biggest regular season game, arguably of
the NBA season. Lakers are playing the Warriors. It's an
excellent matchup, both playing really really well, like Bron's not
quite what he was pre injury, with a honeymoon period
with Luca Rick Bucker's joining us live covering the league
since nineteen ninety three, Fox Sports NBA analyst. So you know,
(00:44):
it's all I'll just ask you this, who does the
game feel bigger than you do? Get about a dozen
regular season games a year where you can kind of
sense there's like your playoff feel to him. This is
going to be one of those games, Like what if
I had to say, who wins tonight? And why? Who
(01:07):
do you like?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I like the Lakers. I like the Lakers as a matchup.
I like the Lakers overall in terms of their chances
in the Western Conference. You can point to a lot
of different things, but it really comes down to the
star player for each team, the go to player for
each team, And with the Lakers, it's Luka Doncic at
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twenty five twenty six years old, and simply because of
his size and the way that he plays, it's easier
for him to get what he needs to get. I
can't ignore Steph's age and size and the way the
Warriors work, it's just the degree of difficulty.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Is much higher.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And when I look at the Western Conference as a whole,
there are a number of teams there with legitimate size
that they're going to have to go through at one
or both of these teams, and the Lakers are better
equipped for that. When I look at their front lines,
even though they both sort of play small at critical times,
Lebron James and Ruey Hatzemura, we're talking about two guys
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that are six eight and six' nine Versus Draymond green
And Jimmy butler at six six and six. Seven and then,
offensively the versatility Of rui And lebron is just greater
than What draymond And jimmy, is so it's not by
a whole, lot and the synchronicity of these two teams
in the chemistry can certainly change the. Dynamic but, overall
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sizing up these two teams on, PAPER i just believe
The lakers are better equipped to make a run at
at least The Western conference.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Finals Golden state's interesting because they can still be kind
Of steff dependent, offensively But butler Andre they've now got
another Veteran butler And draymond to get, him be a
catalyst and get him better, looks WHEREAS i feel Like
luca could have a bad night And lebron And Austin
reeves would be fine carrying. You is It my take
(03:08):
is they still Feel steph dependent? Offensively do you believe, that,
oh one.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Hundred, percent one hundred percent what they got out Of
Jimmy butler is another guy who helps them Facilitate steph
getting what he needs to. Get but, OVERALL i, mean
let's just look at this. Team when you Go Steph,
curry who's the next most dynamic scorer on the, Team
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and the easy answer used to Be Klay. Thompson and
then let's go down the, line like who is it
who do you count? On as being that counter scorer
to To steph AND i think most people would probably
Say Jimmy butler has come in and done. That he's
upgraded that number two. Spot Buddy heal probably was that.
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Previously Maybe Jonathan mingo on good, days but it was
a debatable. Thing but Is jimmy really that kind of?
Score he has been in the, postseason but he's been
that when he's been the primary in the. Postseason so
this is THE x factor, Here, colin which is that
chemistry and the BASKETBALL iq and The warrior's ability to
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play their system and be greater than the some of
their parts is what has made them special in the.
Past can they still capture some of? That sure they
can and would if they. Did and The lakers are
still struggling with trying to find a balance Between lebron
And luca And austin in terms of who's really going
(04:41):
to run this at critical, times then that would tilt
things in the warriors, Favor but all things, Equal i'm
still going to favor The.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Lakers so when we look at The Western conference, standings
you know There's Oklahoma city And houston are the classic
talented young teams without a trophy so they play their
butt off in the regular. SEASON i don't Buy houston as.
MUCH i think The lakers the other night kind of
showed you if you really ratcheted. Up it's a young
team that can miss a lot of. SHOTS i think
(05:10):
the thunder are too good and too deep not to
win a couple of playoff. Series but the real interesting
team to me is The. Nuggets so whereas we both
kind of acknowledge The lakers and The warriors should pretty
do pretty well unless they have to face each other
in the first. Round, denver as the best player on the,
planet doesn't play with Another All. Star they're not as
deep as they. Were they rested people last. Night where are?
(05:34):
You maybe they feel disrespected BY sga if he wins THE.
Mvp where are you? Now in a team THAT i
thought after they, WON i, thought are we looking at The?
Spurs are we looking at a big man? Dynasty and
they just. Don't they just feel like they're. Not they're bad.
Defensively where are you? On?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Denver it's only because Of Nikola jokich in the way
that he's playing right now THAT i even give them
a puncher's chance at still being a. Contender their depth
of experience in the, postseason their collective depth of, experience
can that win out. POTENTIALLY i mean we kind of
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say the same thing about The, lakers that that, experience
or maybe even The, warriors their postseason experience is what
gives them an edge and why people believe that they
can knock off The Houston rockets or even possibly The
Oklahoma City. Thunder i'm off on, that by the, Way
i'm not putting those two teams in the same. Camp
Oklahoma city did win a series last year depth, wise experience.
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Wise we don't talk about it a, lot but they
actually have more playoff game experience than The Memphis, grizzlies
and we never talk about their lack of postseason experience
when we talk about their. Weaknesses so The, nuggets for,
me you're, right and part of this is if you
look At Stan, cronky the, owner this is what he.
(06:56):
Does he did it with The, rams he did it
with The. Avalanche he's kind of with The. Nuggets he
will do, everything he will push all his chips to
the middle of the table in order to win a.
Championship but then he gets a little bit frugal or,
stingy and they've quietly let a lot of key pieces
go and haven't replaced. Them so it's only because Of
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jokic and how he is playing and the matchup nightmare
that he presents THAT i still believe they have a
chance If Aaron gordon And Jamal murray And Michael Porter
junior play their absolute. Best but the difference from when
they won that championship is, Now Christian brown's not a
Luxury he's an Essential Peyton watson has to give you quality.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Minutes they're relying.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
On a lot of guys as a result of Losing Contavious,
Caldwell pope And Bruce brown And Jeff, green you, know
proven veteran. Guys now they're relying on luxury items to
be key pieces in the and they just haven't demonstrated
that they're quite ready to do.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
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Speaker 1 (08:12):
App, usually if you look at the history of THE,
nba we rank dynasties higher if they have star. Power
we love THE Mja, Dynasty Showtime, Lakers shaq And kobe
and The duncan ones, Like, yeah that was a team
down In. Texas they were pretty. Good it didn't have
a lot of, sizzle AND i think we. ARE i
Think boston's gonna win this. THING i think Between Brad
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stevens And Danny, ainge they have a couple of basketball.
Savants this is a roster full of guys that can all, pass, dribble,
shoot and mostly. Defend mostly it is. Loaded. YEAH i
mean they got the best six, man the best. Combode
AND i think because they're like The, spurs they don't
have big. Personalities we just we're a little punitive on.
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THAT nba is an aesthetic. League we like our stars
to be, fun you, know the seventy six serve With DOCTOR.
J that's what we. Like AND i think THEY'RE i
think they're gonna run through these. PLAYOFFS i think their
ability to win on the road decisively is LIKE mj
stuff is Like Kobe shack. Stuff that's that's the difference
between good and. GREAT i think they're gonna run through the.
(09:17):
Playoffs do you they? Could they easily?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
COULD i mean part of it is they've been on
cruise control through this, season and everybody's questioning is that
because they you, know they know how much effort it's
going to take to repeat In may And, june and
so they, realize, hey we're probably gonna, win so have
to win some games on the. Road it's not all
that important that we have the best. Record and then
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they're still gonna have home court advantage in the first.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Round so there is some of.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
That the other part is to your, point like who's
their most dynamic, Player Jalen, Brown like that doesn't that
doesn't ring Ring it really doesn't ring the bell if
you're comparing him to A kobe or A michael or
any of the other dynamic. Players the question THAT i,
Have colin is are they going to be what you're?
Suggesting are they going to be The San Antonio spurs
(10:10):
where they win multiple titles over a long, stretch or
are they going to be The Detroit pistons who were
also formidable for a year AND i think they went
to the conference finals like six years in a row
but only won one. Title so are they going to
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be really good but not necessarily dominant and go to
that next level or are they going to be The
San Antonio spurs where it's if they're not winning back
to backs they're consistently going back, there and, HONESTLY i
don't know at this point because of the way the
league is changing and the difficulty in terms of keeping
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a team together for a long period of. Time at
some point guys want to get paid or they want bigger,
roles and it becomes difficult to hold together the same
team for a long.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Time Rick, Buker Fox Sports Warriors, lakers a really big
regular season. Game, fun it's. FUN i, mean you don't
get a ton of. These this is a big. Deal
there's six or seven guys that are Getting hall Of
fame votes or inclusion like this is a good one.
Tonight it'll feel like a playoff. Game teams at this
point of the year are not playing starters or playing
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everybody a lot of. Minutes there's not a lot in between.
Here teams are, tanking, resting or they are all in
for a big seeding. Game and that's what The latters.
Is what this is, Tonight Rick, buker good, Senior, rick
you got. It, yeah watch this one. TONIGHT J mack
with the, News.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
No no.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Turns this is the headline. News let's start With joelle
And Bead.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Colin remember that GUY i haven't really talked about him all.
Season he's been out for the season Since february do
to knee. Issues apparently he's gonna Have arthur's scoptic surgery
on that need today to try to get him ready
for it next.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Season and the seventy Six, ers who are very.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Clearly tanking to keep their, pick they just announced That
Tyrese maxi is out for the.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Rest of the season with a finger.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
INJURY i saw he only played fifty two games For Paul.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
George what a disaster it's been since.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
He went To, philly And bean And george have only
played sixty combined games this. YEAR i, mean this is
just as bad as it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Gets they're the most cursed beleiagued good sports franchise In North.
America maybe The Toronto Maple. Leafs they always talk about
them being CURSED A sixers just can't get the health,
right the chemistry. Right they JUST i, mean they've had
so much talent for the last four.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Years they just had a lot of bites at The apple.
Too they've had a lot of tough swings at top
guys in the, draft and for whatever, reason Was Michael
Carter williams maybe it was the.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Bounce if That kawhi thing doesn't go, in maybe it
changes the. Trajectory that's a good, Point. Jimmy that was
The Jimmy butler, team which was their best. Team, yeah
and maybe maybe that. Bounds if it goes the other,
way it changes. Everything.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Damn that's A you got some decent tastes, Today calard
firing on all the.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
DOOR i go on, VACATION i bring the. HEAT i told,
You i'm keeping it real this point, forward keeping it. Real,
okay when keeping a real goes, wrong remember. That all,
right let's go to the next.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Story That celtics they hadn't been on a heater one
nine in a, row and then last night.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Lose to The. Heat it kind of got.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Thumped now they were Without Drew, Holliday porzingis And. Horford,
yeah But Joe mizula, said no.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
EXCUSES i, mean we're all.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
PISSED i mean we all hate. Losing and that was my,
uh that was my message was good reminder that losing still.
Sucks SO i love the fact that the staff's. Miserable
guys are, pissed, no not happy by, it but you,
know we gotta come back and do. It again the next.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Day, yeah not not a great. Effort BUT i DON'T i.
Don't you, know they're they're gonna into Their they're they're you,
know you got three guys that play a, lot don't.
Play it changes all the, minutes and, yeah it. Happens
and they're a weird. Franchise boston's. Great they have a
half a dozen clunkers a year at. Home they're. Weird
(14:07):
they're they're an unbelievable road, team which even a lot
of the championship teams in those league weren't great road.
Teams but they have clunkers at.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Home, well some of that is the three point, variants
you know when you're try fifty.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Three that's, right that's what it.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Is by the, Way, yeah that's what it. Is they
have these, nights even at. Home they just are.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Brutal by the, Way i'm, wondering remember when your your
Buddy simmons With Bash. Missoula apparently he was calling him
second Road joe because he's not.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Like a front row. Coat that's what he was saying
on social.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
MEDIA i THINK i don't follow, him but that's WHAT i,
saw AND i wonder what he's saying, now Like Joe
mizzoula has.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Been excellent as a head coach with The. Celtics has he? Not,
yeah won the. TIME i had a bumpy first.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
YEAR i mean the first year we kind of felt
like he was getting worked in the, PLAYOFFS i think
it Was spolstro worked him a little.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
BIT i, mean, LISTEN i had a rough first year
on the.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Show the first.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Couple, listen they settled. Down Now celtics should bounce. Back
fine final, Story colin is Oh. Boy falcon's Owner Arthur
blank added fuel to The Kirk cousins trade rumors this,
week telling the, MEDIA i Think michael Meaning, pennix does
have a clean. Slate he's the STARTING, qb and everybody
in the room understands.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
That that's pretty direct To.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
KIRK i think he'll do what his heart and his
spirit allows him to. Do i've never seen him as
being a divisive. INDIVIDUAL i don't think it's in him
to be that. Way with certain. Personalities you might, Worry
i'm not really worried about. That sounds basically like they
Know cousins is gone and he's going to be shipped
in Likely, cleveland and.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
It's going to be My Kirk.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Cousins just wait till laughter the. Draft just what's the? Hurry,
well The, falcons but watched. It they kept him past the.
DEADLINES a good team in camp loses. Somebody what is
the hurry to sign up Your Kirk, cousins what's the
value on signing with a tire?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Fire, well don't you want to get in the, building
get to know the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Has he knows how to complete out. Routes he's, fine.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
He didn't show that last season with The.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
FALCONS i would wait for the, Draft Kirk, cousins talk
to your. Agent wait for the. Draft then you'll look
at and go to a. Team oh maybe a team
was looking to Get kyle, Mccorror leonard OR i, mean you,
know you just don't know what's going to. Happen all
of a, sudden you get in, Camp garoppolo goes. Down
(16:24):
rams are, like you know What stafford is a banging
his hand on a helmet away from we need a
quarterback IN. La, now that's not gonna.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Happen But i'm Just i'm definitely won't. Happened but that's
not a bad. Idea wait for a good offensive. Mind
Although stefanski's really good.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Now the answer no is. Powerful. Powerful, yeah everybody's, say,
OH i see. That sometimes you'll get AN nba job,
opening and your coaches should probably take the sit down
and they'll get a job within two. Words like in
THE nfl there's eight new coaches a. YEAR nba there's
seven new coaches a. Year say, no once in a,
while wait for a better. Gig you're not going to
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forget out of coach. BASKETBALL i don't. Know jmack with the, News.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by the
Herd line.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
News so, yeah still can't get OVER O Tony man
and uh and and by the, WAY J max here
all next week he'll be crushing. It so Hopefully jmak
keeps it real, too you, know that's that's the. Day
IF i keep it real and he, doesn't the show
is Like Max munsey at the, plate you're a little.
Off do you keep it real with the?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Wife how DO i look in this? Dress that kind
of that kind of?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Reel or, NO i keep it? Appropriate oh, okay keeping
it real at home is not always the best. Answer.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Yeah by the, way when keeping it real goes? Wrong
was A Dave chappelle show not In Living. COLOR i
mixed up my iconic comedy shows FROM i know you watched.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Both of, those, RIGHT i Like Dave.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Chappelle that show was legendary.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Height oh my, Gosh now wait a, MINUTE i forgot
to follow Up White.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Lotus did you watch Episode?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, no, No i'm There's i'm watching episode six Flying out.
Today i'm watching that.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Episode, okay so no spoilers, obviously but it sounds like
you were not all in on the.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Show you, KNOW i like true. CRIME i like documentaries true,
crime and THEN i Like Christopher, Nolan, Spielberg Martin, Scorsese Steven,
SODERBERG i like certain directors all. This, NOW i do
think the acting that That Walter, uh.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
He's really really.
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Good well he's, weird he's like he's like a Younger Christopher.
Walkin he's good in, everything odd in absolutely, everything but he's. Good.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, well sometimes you need to be.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Uncomfortable, right you need to come out of your comfort
zone of true crime And Christopher, Nolan.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Walter, goggins thank, You. Steve what's what is? THIS i?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
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Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well it's to, me it goes they're trying a little too,
hard like everybody's dysfunctional at the. Resort isn't there just
a normal guy that wants to? Golf, uh sleep in
and have an occasional cocktail at, five like everybody has to.
Be that's the strangest person on The earth's. Good it's
a little much for, me all. Right we wrap it
up tomorrows. Headlines today we got The Final, four we
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Got Lakers, warriors we got The Aaron rodgers. DRIVES a
lot out, there there's.
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Herd tomorrow we have The final FOUR Nba playoffs around the.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Corner by the, way are you perturbed by the Chalky final?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Four, NO i think it's.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
GREAT i got a lot of, outrage faux, outrage you
know that. Nonsense, oh there's no great. Games you have
to be careful about confirmation. Bias there's a kind of
a legendary college basketball sports better and he just got
crushed in this turn All. Boston, Yeah i'm familiar with his,
work crushed, crazy but he's he was.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
A good gambler.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Back, yeah, yeah but he loves mid. Majors he loves
the little. Guy AND i think that's. Something it's confirmation.
Bias you're, like, ah the little, guy the little. Guy
never Forget In, america everybody it wants to eat the.
Rich why do people play the? Lottery they want to be.
Rich let's not pretend like you know it's so it's
a lot of it's just. Envy and the same thing
is for mid, majors is you know those coaches at
(21:19):
mid majors privately they'd ratherether coach At kentucky and play
with better, coach better, players bigger and io. Budget of,
course so the mid major's always been. Overstated they're a
little undervalued, historically but the nil has changed. That you,
know the mid major guy gets good And i'll hear you,
know From dayton or, something and then all of a,
sudden you Know syracuse or You, connor like you know,
what you could be our third best starter or a best.
(21:40):
Starter so that's the way society. Works people talented people have.
OPTIONS i saw something the other day On TikTok where
they were talking about an average looking man has to
swipe two hundred times on what's that, Site Tinder tender
to get one cup of coffee with a.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Date what does a woman have to?
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Do, well IT'S i. DIDN'T i don't know, that but
they said and of the four of the five times
they get, coffee they won't get a second. Coffee, SO
i mean just things are easier when you have certain, height, looks. Talent,
well the coaches want to coach the best, players and
players want to play with the best, players and so you,
know the nil is a long time. Coming so if
(22:23):
you are a believer in paying college, athletes the same
people that are upset about mid majors disappearing In march
are also the same people that want athletes to get.
Paid here's the way it works In. America the minute
you pay college, athletes you're going to have a hierarchy very,
(22:45):
quickly and people are going to, separate and you're going
to find out your market. Value and so you know
that all the people that were fighting for the little
guy to get paid he getting paid now a lot By,
kentucky Not. Dayton well that's just the market.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Speaking it's like In Major league, baseball a lot of
these lower end, teams the owners that don't want to,
spend they're essentially farm systems for The yankees and The.
Dodgers and that's how it's working in. Baseball that's definitely
what's happening in college football and.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Basketball all these small market baseball teams for years were
propped up by the regional, networks which was The fox.
Business When fox sold it and other people couldn't run
it Like, fox it dried. Up and it's Hurt pittsburgh
And cincinnati And Kansas city and The. Mariners so it's
(23:35):
like the truth eventually comes. Out the big gobble up
the small and that's all that's happening With. Nil the
big and the bigger bankrolls are smaller swallowing up the
smaller Bankrell you see it in, tech you see it
in every. Industry all, right let's do It tomorrow's headlines,
today what's the headline For florida And auburn TO sec
(23:57):
hot bets for hoops these days to GREAT sec.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Teams got some good news For auburn aubrep where it
just came. Out the headline will be join us For Crocktail,
Hour gators shots go down.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
EASY i Have florida taking Down.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Auburn, however it just was revealed That auburn Star, broom
the big fella who has just been getting double doubles
in like the first, half he practiced fully. Today he
will Play saturday in the final. Four he misspractice the
last two, days so there was some. Concern remember the
elbow in the. Knee, Now broom is an excellent. PLAYER
i think he's like twenty three years. Old, However florida
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has the DEPTH i think to. Handle they got four
guys that they can throw at the big fella From,
auburn AND i give a slight edge To florida the.
Backwork BUT i will say my favorite player in this
game Is, pettiford the lefty backup point, guard the freshman For.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Auburn he is so. Smooth i've been saying he's a lottery.
PICK a lot of people are, like, no, no you watch.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
If he Plays clayton to to. Toe clayton's a Great
florida point. GUARD i think we'll Hear petiford is a lottery.
PICK i Think florida narrowly.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Escapes all, right here's the. Game this gonna be great
tomorrow's headlines Today houston And duke defense against. Offense what's say?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You, yeah remember after we did The calcuttai came, ON i,
said we Got.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Duke i'm A duke Blue devil's. FAN i want A
cooper flag.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Jersey the, headline, well, hey The dukes Of Hazzard cougar's
wave the white flag and that Is. FLAGG i Got
cooper flag In duke. Advancing, However, colin some of these
analytics guys have put this in front of.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Me you got to. START i don't know if it's out.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
There the top twenty five defense Is duke has faced
in the last month. Zero you have to go back
to The clemson game in Early february for a top
twenty five. Defense duke lost that, game so they haven't
played a good. Defense alabama don't play, Defense baylor does
not play. Defense houston's the number one defense in the.
Country will be a. Test there's a big. Divide the
(25:48):
spread is. Five colin take the. Points, However Ken, palm
the number one analytics, site says this is a two point,
game and there's another analytics site that says it As
houston by.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
One so there is a divide the publicans will.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Be potentially the best college basketball game men or women
of the.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Year, YES i think it will be absolutely. PHENOMENAL i
Think duke. WINS i don't Trust houston and like clutch.
Situations they've played some some tough. Games they have an
edge in the back. Court but how you not riding
With Cooper? FLAG i give Me Duke tomorrow's headlines?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Today so who do you like The National? Championship Duke
florida in The.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
NATTY a lot of people had. This you probably had.
It oh, no you didn't have it in your breath
because you didn't Go chalky the.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Headline will, Hey kurt to see Flush duke cleans the
rim and.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Cuts down the.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Nets, Listen John shires done a tremendous. Job we have
an awesome. Team they got three guys who could go
in the top. Twenty the big seven footer in the,
Middle Cooper, flag and then of Course, canipple who's very.
GOOD i Like procter the Guard. Colin this is just
a great basketball. Team the one interesting thing is they
are one of the youngest. Teams, yeah that's WHY i
didn't a lot of freshmen and sophomores and it's, like,
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oh that's, tough going up against.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
The grown men Of florida and the grown men Of.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
HOUSTON i Think duke.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
PREVAILS i just Think Cooper flag is too. Good you
can't hold him down that.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Long all, Right so big one, Tonight Lakers. Warriors let's.
Go what's the headline going to be for The Western?
Conference tomorrow's headlines today the deep Loaded Western conference to
The National Basketball.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Association so next couple weeks on the show are going
to be, wacky AND i figure we get our NF
nba prediction out of the way in The. West, okay
se he's won what sixty three?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Games how Many's denver? ONE i don't. Know the headline
for The.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Western conference will Be luca tick, Fringe lakers going off
the rails on a crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Trade i'm, SORRY i think they're going to The Western conference. Finals.
COLIN i don't think anybody's standing in their.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Way remember how they had like a twenty two game
sample size where they were the best defense in the
league and then they kind of cratered and all of
a sudd they're not that, good. Folks they played eight
games in twelve. Days they were exhausted due to the
back to. Backs lebron was, Hurt reese was. Hurt everybody's healthy, Now,
colin And i'm just telling you This lakers team totally.
Complete we're having discussions during the commercial break about who's
(28:03):
going to Defend Austin reeves like tonight and in the.
Playoffs he is a tough. Matchup you Got, luca, obviously
you Have. Lebron this is a great litmus test tonight
against The. Warriors, apparently, tickets it's a, tough tough ticket
to get in.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Tonight you probably could if, you, uh, Well i'm an.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Influencer, yeah that's How. So lakers to The Western conference
finals for.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Sure, finally tomorrow's headlines today the more Predictable Eastern.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Conference it was supposed to Be celtics And, knicks but
then The calves have come out of nowhere and they're a.
Challenger the headline in The east will, Right i'd rather
be a Rich zingis than a Poor. Zingis boston breaks
bank back to.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
BACK i JUST i Like boston too.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
MUCH i think get gone through the motions a little
bit at times this, season you, know, like, hey we
just won the, title AND i think that's Enabled cleveland
to look better than they Are My.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Knicks brunson still.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Not not back. Yet they have and that's up great
with The. Celtics SO i Think boston's the team to
be in The. East AND i think they cut down
the nets again this.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
YEAH i mean it's they have a couple of really
really sharp, Gms Danny ainge To Brad, stevens and they
just haven't been a lot of. MISSES i mean when
when when you know some of this Is. Giannis jannis
wanted a better running mate with more offensive, firepower and
they Moved Drew. Holliday milwaukee loved him For dame And
dame's a defensive liability is getting, older breaking, down and
(29:27):
so they Got Drew, holliday which was an upgrade Over Marcus.
Smart they were good With Marcus, Smart brown And. Tatum
now they're better Than porzingis had a great year In.
Washington nobody paid. Attention Brad stevens brings him over. Us
he's a character. Issue he breaks. Down ALL i know
is when he's on the, floor And horford's been slinging
it for. Years and Now Peyton, pritchard.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Don't Forget Derek. White what a heist that One.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
They are just they. Are And i'll say it. Again
they they've got A spurs feel where we're not going
to pay a ton of attention because they're not a flashy.
Team we love Our Kobe, shack we love our you,
know we love Our Mychael Jordan's Showtime Lakers. Jordan we
like OUR nba champ to be. Flashy in the, seventies
The sonics were, Good, Washington Golden, state they weren't. Flashy
portland was. Great and that's, okay it's not a. Criticism
(30:11):
in THE, nfl we don't. Care if you're tough and
physical Like Baltimore, pittsburgh well you could be A Super bowl.
CHAMP nba we like a little flash or we don't
give you the credit you. DESERVE i THINK i Think
boston stacked the fact that they. Are they can go
into ANY nba Aren now they could go Into okay
see in the final and win by. Eighteen they are
they not many teams in the league can do, that all,
(30:33):
Right je mack Are now you have tomorrow off AND
i have tomorrow. Off what do you got planned for
the big? Weekend you got three?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
THERE i don't you, KNOW i got to prepare for next,
WEEK i gotta put some takes in the, holster get them,
ready ready for.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Action already cooking up some. Stuff we'll.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
See i'll tell you, What Duke, houston that is one
for the.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Age If duke, Loses i'll be kind of sort of.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Devastated then it loses, Luster like are you tired up
about A Houston auburn final or he's.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
WELL i Picked auburn to, win SO i would be would.
Yeah you, know it's the thing About florida And. Auburn,
florida as good as they, are they're one of those
teams that can go come down and give you four
or five minutes of wasted, possessions you, know and college
teams do that a. Lot duke. Doesn't duke doesn't give
you wasted. Possessions where you, Know, duke they know what they,
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are they lean into what they, are and they've got
a sensational. Player and that's what that's really the difference
of having a superstar in THE nba is and that's
What milwaukee struggles. With, Yes jannis is their, star but
he's a liability at the free throw, Line so do
you always go to him? Late you, know the shack
Without kobe or D wade is is really a, force
but you didn't want him at the free throw, line
(31:48):
and and, so and that's Why duncan was great when
he Had mano And Tony Tony parker because they could
hit the free. Throws and so that that in, College
duke has The, okay let's let we need three straight great.
Possessions you just give the ball To Cooper flag and
get out of the. Way and Even AUBURN i, like
but they have fewer of them because they have two
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guys that can get a bucket is a lot of
these college, teams like even the good teams Like florida Or,
houston you can get into a little bit Of, man
we've gone four straight. Possessions we have not gotten a
good look at.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
All the other concern With duke is they haven't played
a close game in a.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
While they haven't had like down to the.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Wire they had some earlier this year When Cooper flag
was eighteen and they ended up losing a couple of.
THOSE i Think kansas was, One BUT i don't really have.
CONCERNS i think they shoot free throws, great one of
the best free throw shooting teams in the, country like
should be.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Fine, yeah my guess Is i'm gonna Go Duke. Auburn
i'll Go Duke, florida all, right best of her. Tomorrow be.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
All right. Tonight's the biggest regular season game, arguably of
the NBA season. Lakers are playing the Warriors. It's an
excellent matchup, both playing really really well, like Bron's not
quite what he was pre injury, with a honeymoon period
with Luca Rick Bucker's joining us live covering the league
since nineteen ninety three, Fox Sports NBA analyst. So you know,
(00:44):
it's all I'll just ask you this, who does the
game feel bigger than you do? Get about a dozen
regular season games a year where you can kind of
sense there's like your playoff feel to him. This is
going to be one of those games, Like what if
I had to say, who wins tonight? And why? Who
(01:07):
do you like?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I like the Lakers. I like the Lakers as a matchup.
I like the Lakers overall in terms of their chances
in the Western Conference. You can point to a lot
of different things, but it really comes down to the
star player for each team, the go to player for
each team, And with the Lakers, it's Luka Doncic at
(01:32):
twenty five twenty six years old, and simply because of
his size and the way that he plays, it's easier
for him to get what he needs to get. I
can't ignore Steph's age and size and the way the
Warriors work, it's just the degree of difficulty.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Is much higher.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And when I look at the Western Conference as a whole,
there are a number of teams there with legitimate size
that they're going to have to go through at one
or both of these teams, and the Lakers are better
equipped for that. When I look at their front lines,
even though they both sort of play small at critical times,
Lebron James and Ruey Hatzemura, we're talking about two guys
(02:16):
that are six eight and six' nine Versus Draymond green
And Jimmy butler at six six and six. Seven and then,
offensively the versatility Of rui And lebron is just greater
than What draymond And jimmy, is so it's not by
a whole, lot and the synchronicity of these two teams
in the chemistry can certainly change the. Dynamic but, overall
(02:40):
sizing up these two teams on, PAPER i just believe
The lakers are better equipped to make a run at
at least The Western conference.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Finals Golden state's interesting because they can still be kind
Of steff dependent, offensively But butler Andre they've now got
another Veteran butler And draymond to get, him be a
catalyst and get him better, looks WHEREAS i feel Like
luca could have a bad night And lebron And Austin
reeves would be fine carrying. You is It my take
(03:08):
is they still Feel steph dependent? Offensively do you believe, that,
oh one.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Hundred, percent one hundred percent what they got out Of
Jimmy butler is another guy who helps them Facilitate steph
getting what he needs to. Get but, OVERALL i, mean
let's just look at this. Team when you Go Steph,
curry who's the next most dynamic scorer on the, Team
(03:33):
and the easy answer used to Be Klay. Thompson and
then let's go down the, line like who is it
who do you count? On as being that counter scorer
to To steph AND i think most people would probably
Say Jimmy butler has come in and done. That he's
upgraded that number two. Spot Buddy heal probably was that.
(03:57):
Previously Maybe Jonathan mingo on good, days but it was
a debatable. Thing but Is jimmy really that kind of?
Score he has been in the, postseason but he's been
that when he's been the primary in the. Postseason so
this is THE x factor, Here, colin which is that
chemistry and the BASKETBALL iq and The warrior's ability to
(04:20):
play their system and be greater than the some of
their parts is what has made them special in the.
Past can they still capture some of? That sure they
can and would if they. Did and The lakers are
still struggling with trying to find a balance Between lebron
And luca And austin in terms of who's really going
(04:41):
to run this at critical, times then that would tilt
things in the warriors, Favor but all things, Equal i'm
still going to favor The.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Lakers so when we look at The Western conference, standings
you know There's Oklahoma city And houston are the classic
talented young teams without a trophy so they play their
butt off in the regular. SEASON i don't Buy houston as.
MUCH i think The lakers the other night kind of
showed you if you really ratcheted. Up it's a young
team that can miss a lot of. SHOTS i think
(05:10):
the thunder are too good and too deep not to
win a couple of playoff. Series but the real interesting
team to me is The. Nuggets so whereas we both
kind of acknowledge The lakers and The warriors should pretty
do pretty well unless they have to face each other
in the first. Round, denver as the best player on the,
planet doesn't play with Another All. Star they're not as
deep as they. Were they rested people last. Night where are?
(05:34):
You maybe they feel disrespected BY sga if he wins THE.
Mvp where are you? Now in a team THAT i
thought after they, WON i, thought are we looking at The?
Spurs are we looking at a big man? Dynasty and
they just. Don't they just feel like they're. Not they're bad.
Defensively where are you? On?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Denver it's only because Of Nikola jokich in the way
that he's playing right now THAT i even give them
a puncher's chance at still being a. Contender their depth
of experience in the, postseason their collective depth of, experience
can that win out. POTENTIALLY i mean we kind of
(06:14):
say the same thing about The, lakers that that, experience
or maybe even The, warriors their postseason experience is what
gives them an edge and why people believe that they
can knock off The Houston rockets or even possibly The
Oklahoma City. Thunder i'm off on, that by the, Way
i'm not putting those two teams in the same. Camp
Oklahoma city did win a series last year depth, wise experience.
(06:36):
Wise we don't talk about it a, lot but they
actually have more playoff game experience than The Memphis, grizzlies
and we never talk about their lack of postseason experience
when we talk about their. Weaknesses so The, nuggets for,
me you're, right and part of this is if you
look At Stan, cronky the, owner this is what he.
(06:56):
Does he did it with The, rams he did it
with The. Avalanche he's kind of with The. Nuggets he
will do, everything he will push all his chips to
the middle of the table in order to win a.
Championship but then he gets a little bit frugal or,
stingy and they've quietly let a lot of key pieces
go and haven't replaced. Them so it's only because Of
(07:19):
jokic and how he is playing and the matchup nightmare
that he presents THAT i still believe they have a
chance If Aaron gordon And Jamal murray And Michael Porter
junior play their absolute. Best but the difference from when
they won that championship is, Now Christian brown's not a
Luxury he's an Essential Peyton watson has to give you quality.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Minutes they're relying.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
On a lot of guys as a result of Losing Contavious,
Caldwell pope And Bruce brown And Jeff, green you, know
proven veteran. Guys now they're relying on luxury items to
be key pieces in the and they just haven't demonstrated
that they're quite ready to do.
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Speaker 1 (08:12):
App, usually if you look at the history of THE,
nba we rank dynasties higher if they have star. Power
we love THE Mja, Dynasty Showtime, Lakers shaq And kobe
and The duncan ones, Like, yeah that was a team
down In. Texas they were pretty. Good it didn't have
a lot of, sizzle AND i think we. ARE i
Think boston's gonna win this. THING i think Between Brad
(08:34):
stevens And Danny, ainge they have a couple of basketball.
Savants this is a roster full of guys that can all, pass, dribble,
shoot and mostly. Defend mostly it is. Loaded. YEAH i
mean they got the best six, man the best. Combode
AND i think because they're like The, spurs they don't
have big. Personalities we just we're a little punitive on.
(08:55):
THAT nba is an aesthetic. League we like our stars
to be, fun you, know the seventy six serve With DOCTOR.
J that's what we. Like AND i think THEY'RE i
think they're gonna run through these. PLAYOFFS i think their
ability to win on the road decisively is LIKE mj
stuff is Like Kobe shack. Stuff that's that's the difference
between good and. GREAT i think they're gonna run through the.
(09:17):
Playoffs do you they? Could they easily?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
COULD i mean part of it is they've been on
cruise control through this, season and everybody's questioning is that
because they you, know they know how much effort it's
going to take to repeat In may And, june and
so they, realize, hey we're probably gonna, win so have
to win some games on the. Road it's not all
that important that we have the best. Record and then
(09:44):
they're still gonna have home court advantage in the first.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Round so there is some of.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
That the other part is to your, point like who's
their most dynamic, Player Jalen, Brown like that doesn't that
doesn't ring Ring it really doesn't ring the bell if
you're comparing him to A kobe or A michael or
any of the other dynamic. Players the question THAT i,
Have colin is are they going to be what you're?
Suggesting are they going to be The San Antonio spurs
(10:10):
where they win multiple titles over a long, stretch or
are they going to be The Detroit pistons who were
also formidable for a year AND i think they went
to the conference finals like six years in a row
but only won one. Title so are they going to
(10:30):
be really good but not necessarily dominant and go to
that next level or are they going to be The
San Antonio spurs where it's if they're not winning back
to backs they're consistently going back, there and, HONESTLY i
don't know at this point because of the way the
league is changing and the difficulty in terms of keeping
(10:52):
a team together for a long period of. Time at
some point guys want to get paid or they want bigger,
roles and it becomes difficult to hold together the same
team for a long.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Time Rick, Buker Fox Sports Warriors, lakers a really big
regular season. Game, fun it's. FUN i, mean you don't
get a ton of. These this is a big. Deal
there's six or seven guys that are Getting hall Of
fame votes or inclusion like this is a good one.
Tonight it'll feel like a playoff. Game teams at this
point of the year are not playing starters or playing
(11:27):
everybody a lot of. Minutes there's not a lot in between.
Here teams are, tanking, resting or they are all in
for a big seeding. Game and that's what The latters.
Is what this is, Tonight Rick, buker good, Senior, rick
you got. It, yeah watch this one. TONIGHT J mack
with the, News.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
No no.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Turns this is the headline. News let's start With joelle
And Bead.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Colin remember that GUY i haven't really talked about him all.
Season he's been out for the season Since february do
to knee. Issues apparently he's gonna Have arthur's scoptic surgery
on that need today to try to get him ready
for it next.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Season and the seventy Six, ers who are very.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Clearly tanking to keep their, pick they just announced That
Tyrese maxi is out for the.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Rest of the season with a finger.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
INJURY i saw he only played fifty two games For Paul.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
George what a disaster it's been since.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
He went To, philly And bean And george have only
played sixty combined games this. YEAR i, mean this is
just as bad as it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Gets they're the most cursed beleiagued good sports franchise In North.
America maybe The Toronto Maple. Leafs they always talk about
them being CURSED A sixers just can't get the health,
right the chemistry. Right they JUST i, mean they've had
so much talent for the last four.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Years they just had a lot of bites at The apple.
Too they've had a lot of tough swings at top
guys in the, draft and for whatever, reason Was Michael
Carter williams maybe it was the.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Bounce if That kawhi thing doesn't go, in maybe it
changes the. Trajectory that's a good, Point. Jimmy that was
The Jimmy butler, team which was their best. Team, yeah
and maybe maybe that. Bounds if it goes the other,
way it changes. Everything.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Damn that's A you got some decent tastes, Today calard
firing on all the.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
DOOR i go on, VACATION i bring the. HEAT i told,
You i'm keeping it real this point, forward keeping it. Real,
okay when keeping a real goes, wrong remember. That all,
right let's go to the next.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Story That celtics they hadn't been on a heater one
nine in a, row and then last night.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Lose to The. Heat it kind of got.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Thumped now they were Without Drew, Holliday porzingis And. Horford,
yeah But Joe mizula, said no.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
EXCUSES i, mean we're all.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
PISSED i mean we all hate. Losing and that was my,
uh that was my message was good reminder that losing still.
Sucks SO i love the fact that the staff's. Miserable
guys are, pissed, no not happy by, it but you,
know we gotta come back and do. It again the next.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Day, yeah not not a great. Effort BUT i DON'T i.
Don't you, know they're they're gonna into Their they're they're you,
know you got three guys that play a, lot don't.
Play it changes all the, minutes and, yeah it. Happens
and they're a weird. Franchise boston's. Great they have a
half a dozen clunkers a year at. Home they're. Weird
(14:07):
they're they're an unbelievable road, team which even a lot
of the championship teams in those league weren't great road.
Teams but they have clunkers at.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Home, well some of that is the three point, variants
you know when you're try fifty.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Three that's, right that's what it.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Is by the, Way, yeah that's what it. Is they
have these, nights even at. Home they just are.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Brutal by the, Way i'm, wondering remember when your your
Buddy simmons With Bash. Missoula apparently he was calling him
second Road joe because he's not.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Like a front row. Coat that's what he was saying
on social.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
MEDIA i THINK i don't follow, him but that's WHAT i,
saw AND i wonder what he's saying, now Like Joe
mizzoula has.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Been excellent as a head coach with The. Celtics has he? Not,
yeah won the. TIME i had a bumpy first.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
YEAR i mean the first year we kind of felt
like he was getting worked in the, PLAYOFFS i think
it Was spolstro worked him a little.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
BIT i, mean, LISTEN i had a rough first year
on the.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Show the first.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Couple, listen they settled. Down Now celtics should bounce. Back
fine final, Story colin is Oh. Boy falcon's Owner Arthur
blank added fuel to The Kirk cousins trade rumors this,
week telling the, MEDIA i Think michael Meaning, pennix does
have a clean. Slate he's the STARTING, qb and everybody
in the room understands.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
That that's pretty direct To.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
KIRK i think he'll do what his heart and his
spirit allows him to. Do i've never seen him as
being a divisive. INDIVIDUAL i don't think it's in him
to be that. Way with certain. Personalities you might, Worry
i'm not really worried about. That sounds basically like they
Know cousins is gone and he's going to be shipped
in Likely, cleveland and.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
It's going to be My Kirk.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Cousins just wait till laughter the. Draft just what's the? Hurry,
well The, falcons but watched. It they kept him past the.
DEADLINES a good team in camp loses. Somebody what is
the hurry to sign up Your Kirk, cousins what's the
value on signing with a tire?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Fire, well don't you want to get in the, building
get to know the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Has he knows how to complete out. Routes he's, fine.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
He didn't show that last season with The.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
FALCONS i would wait for the, Draft Kirk, cousins talk
to your. Agent wait for the. Draft then you'll look
at and go to a. Team oh maybe a team
was looking to Get kyle, Mccorror leonard OR i, mean you,
know you just don't know what's going to. Happen all
of a, sudden you get in, Camp garoppolo goes. Down
(16:24):
rams are, like you know What stafford is a banging
his hand on a helmet away from we need a
quarterback IN. La, now that's not gonna.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Happen But i'm Just i'm definitely won't. Happened but that's
not a bad. Idea wait for a good offensive. Mind
Although stefanski's really good.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Now the answer no is. Powerful. Powerful, yeah everybody's, say,
OH i see. That sometimes you'll get AN nba job,
opening and your coaches should probably take the sit down
and they'll get a job within two. Words like in
THE nfl there's eight new coaches a. YEAR nba there's
seven new coaches a. Year say, no once in a,
while wait for a better. Gig you're not going to
(17:00):
forget out of coach. BASKETBALL i don't. Know jmack with the, News.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by the
Herd line.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
News so, yeah still can't get OVER O Tony man
and uh and and by the, WAY J max here
all next week he'll be crushing. It so Hopefully jmak
keeps it real, too you, know that's that's the. Day
IF i keep it real and he, doesn't the show
is Like Max munsey at the, plate you're a little.
Off do you keep it real with the?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Wife how DO i look in this? Dress that kind
of that kind of?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Reel or, NO i keep it? Appropriate oh, okay keeping
it real at home is not always the best. Answer.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Yeah by the, way when keeping it real goes? Wrong
was A Dave chappelle show not In Living. COLOR i
mixed up my iconic comedy shows FROM i know you watched.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Both of, those, RIGHT i Like Dave.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Chappelle that show was legendary.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Height oh my, Gosh now wait a, MINUTE i forgot
to follow Up White.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Lotus did you watch Episode?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, no, No i'm There's i'm watching episode six Flying out.
Today i'm watching that.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Episode, okay so no spoilers, obviously but it sounds like
you were not all in on the.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Show you, KNOW i like true. CRIME i like documentaries true,
crime and THEN i Like Christopher, Nolan, Spielberg Martin, Scorsese Steven,
SODERBERG i like certain directors all. This, NOW i do
think the acting that That Walter, uh.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
He's really really.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Good well he's, weird he's like he's like a Younger Christopher.
Walkin he's good in, everything odd in absolutely, everything but he's. Good.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, well sometimes you need to be.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Uncomfortable, right you need to come out of your comfort
zone of true crime And Christopher, Nolan.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Walter, goggins thank, You. Steve what's what is? THIS i?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Mean this show is? Crazy this is.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well it's to, me it goes they're trying a little too,
hard like everybody's dysfunctional at the. Resort isn't there just
a normal guy that wants to? Golf, uh sleep in
and have an occasional cocktail at, five like everybody has to.
Be that's the strangest person on The earth's. Good it's
a little much for, me all. Right we wrap it
up tomorrows. Headlines today we got The Final, four we
(19:11):
Got Lakers, warriors we got The Aaron rodgers. DRIVES a
lot out, there there's.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
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Speaker 1 (20:19):
Folks it's that. Time the old Crystal ball arrives on,
set usually On Fridays thursdays because we're Doing best of The.
Herd tomorrow we have The final FOUR Nba playoffs around the.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Corner by the, way are you perturbed by the Chalky final?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Four, NO i think it's.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
GREAT i got a lot of, outrage faux, outrage you
know that. Nonsense, oh there's no great. Games you have
to be careful about confirmation. Bias there's a kind of
a legendary college basketball sports better and he just got
crushed in this turn All. Boston, Yeah i'm familiar with his,
work crushed, crazy but he's he was.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
A good gambler.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Back, yeah, yeah but he loves mid. Majors he loves
the little. Guy AND i think that's. Something it's confirmation.
Bias you're, like, ah the little, guy the little. Guy
never Forget In, america everybody it wants to eat the.
Rich why do people play the? Lottery they want to be.
Rich let's not pretend like you know it's so it's
a lot of it's just. Envy and the same thing
is for mid, majors is you know those coaches at
(21:19):
mid majors privately they'd ratherether coach At kentucky and play
with better, coach better, players bigger and io. Budget of,
course so the mid major's always been. Overstated they're a
little undervalued, historically but the nil has changed. That you,
know the mid major guy gets good And i'll hear you,
know From dayton or, something and then all of a,
sudden you Know syracuse or You, connor like you know,
what you could be our third best starter or a best.
(21:40):
Starter so that's the way society. Works people talented people have.
OPTIONS i saw something the other day On TikTok where
they were talking about an average looking man has to
swipe two hundred times on what's that, Site Tinder tender
to get one cup of coffee with a.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Date what does a woman have to?
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Do, well IT'S i. DIDN'T i don't know, that but
they said and of the four of the five times
they get, coffee they won't get a second. Coffee, SO
i mean just things are easier when you have certain, height, looks. Talent,
well the coaches want to coach the best, players and
players want to play with the best, players and so you,
know the nil is a long time. Coming so if
(22:23):
you are a believer in paying college, athletes the same
people that are upset about mid majors disappearing In march
are also the same people that want athletes to get.
Paid here's the way it works In. America the minute
you pay college, athletes you're going to have a hierarchy very,
(22:45):
quickly and people are going to, separate and you're going
to find out your market. Value and so you know
that all the people that were fighting for the little
guy to get paid he getting paid now a lot By,
kentucky Not. Dayton well that's just the market.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Speaking it's like In Major league, baseball a lot of
these lower end, teams the owners that don't want to,
spend they're essentially farm systems for The yankees and The.
Dodgers and that's how it's working in. Baseball that's definitely
what's happening in college football and.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Basketball all these small market baseball teams for years were
propped up by the regional, networks which was The fox.
Business When fox sold it and other people couldn't run
it Like, fox it dried. Up and it's Hurt pittsburgh
And cincinnati And Kansas city and The. Mariners so it's
(23:35):
like the truth eventually comes. Out the big gobble up
the small and that's all that's happening With. Nil the
big and the bigger bankrolls are smaller swallowing up the
smaller Bankrell you see it in, tech you see it
in every. Industry all, right let's do It tomorrow's headlines,
today what's the headline For florida And auburn TO sec
(23:57):
hot bets for hoops these days to GREAT sec.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Teams got some good news For auburn aubrep where it
just came. Out the headline will be join us For Crocktail,
Hour gators shots go down.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
EASY i Have florida taking Down.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Auburn, however it just was revealed That auburn Star, broom
the big fella who has just been getting double doubles
in like the first, half he practiced fully. Today he
will Play saturday in the final. Four he misspractice the
last two, days so there was some. Concern remember the
elbow in the. Knee, Now broom is an excellent. PLAYER
i think he's like twenty three years. Old, However florida
(24:33):
has the DEPTH i think to. Handle they got four
guys that they can throw at the big fella From,
auburn AND i give a slight edge To florida the.
Backwork BUT i will say my favorite player in this
game Is, pettiford the lefty backup point, guard the freshman For.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Auburn he is so. Smooth i've been saying he's a lottery.
PICK a lot of people are, like, no, no you watch.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
If he Plays clayton to to. Toe clayton's a Great
florida point. GUARD i think we'll Hear petiford is a lottery.
PICK i Think florida narrowly.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Escapes all, right here's the. Game this gonna be great
tomorrow's headlines Today houston And duke defense against. Offense what's say?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You, yeah remember after we did The calcuttai came, ON i,
said we Got.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Duke i'm A duke Blue devil's. FAN i want A
cooper flag.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Jersey the, headline, well, hey The dukes Of Hazzard cougar's
wave the white flag and that Is. FLAGG i Got
cooper flag In duke. Advancing, However, colin some of these
analytics guys have put this in front of.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Me you got to. START i don't know if it's out.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
There the top twenty five defense Is duke has faced
in the last month. Zero you have to go back
to The clemson game in Early february for a top
twenty five. Defense duke lost that, game so they haven't
played a good. Defense alabama don't play, Defense baylor does
not play. Defense houston's the number one defense in the.
Country will be a. Test there's a big. Divide the
(25:48):
spread is. Five colin take the. Points, However Ken, palm
the number one analytics, site says this is a two point,
game and there's another analytics site that says it As
houston by.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
One so there is a divide the publicans will.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Be potentially the best college basketball game men or women
of the.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Year, YES i think it will be absolutely. PHENOMENAL i
Think duke. WINS i don't Trust houston and like clutch.
Situations they've played some some tough. Games they have an
edge in the back. Court but how you not riding
With Cooper? FLAG i give Me Duke tomorrow's headlines?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Today so who do you like The National? Championship Duke
florida in The.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
NATTY a lot of people had. This you probably had.
It oh, no you didn't have it in your breath
because you didn't Go chalky the.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Headline will, Hey kurt to see Flush duke cleans the
rim and.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Cuts down the.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Nets, Listen John shires done a tremendous. Job we have
an awesome. Team they got three guys who could go
in the top. Twenty the big seven footer in the,
Middle Cooper, flag and then of Course, canipple who's very.
GOOD i Like procter the Guard. Colin this is just
a great basketball. Team the one interesting thing is they
are one of the youngest. Teams, yeah that's WHY i
didn't a lot of freshmen and sophomores and it's, like,
(26:55):
oh that's, tough going up against.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
The grown men Of florida and the grown men Of.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
HOUSTON i Think duke.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
PREVAILS i just Think Cooper flag is too. Good you
can't hold him down that.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Long all, Right so big one, Tonight Lakers. Warriors let's.
Go what's the headline going to be for The Western?
Conference tomorrow's headlines today the deep Loaded Western conference to
The National Basketball.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Association so next couple weeks on the show are going
to be, wacky AND i figure we get our NF
nba prediction out of the way in The. West, okay
se he's won what sixty three?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Games how Many's denver? ONE i don't. Know the headline
for The.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Western conference will Be luca tick, Fringe lakers going off
the rails on a crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Trade i'm, SORRY i think they're going to The Western conference. Finals.
COLIN i don't think anybody's standing in their.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Way remember how they had like a twenty two game
sample size where they were the best defense in the
league and then they kind of cratered and all of
a sudd they're not that, good. Folks they played eight
games in twelve. Days they were exhausted due to the
back to. Backs lebron was, Hurt reese was. Hurt everybody's healthy, Now,
colin And i'm just telling you This lakers team totally.
Complete we're having discussions during the commercial break about who's
(28:03):
going to Defend Austin reeves like tonight and in the.
Playoffs he is a tough. Matchup you Got, luca, obviously
you Have. Lebron this is a great litmus test tonight
against The. Warriors, apparently, tickets it's a, tough tough ticket
to get in.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Tonight you probably could if, you, uh, Well i'm an.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Influencer, yeah that's How. So lakers to The Western conference
finals for.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Sure, finally tomorrow's headlines today the more Predictable Eastern.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Conference it was supposed to Be celtics And, knicks but
then The calves have come out of nowhere and they're a.
Challenger the headline in The east will, Right i'd rather
be a Rich zingis than a Poor. Zingis boston breaks
bank back to.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
BACK i JUST i Like boston too.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
MUCH i think get gone through the motions a little
bit at times this, season you, know, like, hey we
just won the, title AND i think that's Enabled cleveland
to look better than they Are My.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Knicks brunson still.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Not not back. Yet they have and that's up great
with The. Celtics SO i Think boston's the team to
be in The. East AND i think they cut down
the nets again this.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
YEAH i mean it's they have a couple of really
really sharp, Gms Danny ainge To Brad, stevens and they
just haven't been a lot of. MISSES i mean when
when when you know some of this Is. Giannis jannis
wanted a better running mate with more offensive, firepower and
they Moved Drew. Holliday milwaukee loved him For dame And
dame's a defensive liability is getting, older breaking, down and
(29:27):
so they Got Drew, holliday which was an upgrade Over Marcus.
Smart they were good With Marcus, Smart brown And. Tatum
now they're better Than porzingis had a great year In.
Washington nobody paid. Attention Brad stevens brings him over. Us
he's a character. Issue he breaks. Down ALL i know
is when he's on the, floor And horford's been slinging
it for. Years and Now Peyton, pritchard.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Don't Forget Derek. White what a heist that One.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
They are just they. Are And i'll say it. Again
they they've got A spurs feel where we're not going
to pay a ton of attention because they're not a flashy.
Team we love Our Kobe, shack we love our you,
know we love Our Mychael Jordan's Showtime Lakers. Jordan we
like OUR nba champ to be. Flashy in the, seventies
The sonics were, Good, Washington Golden, state they weren't. Flashy
portland was. Great and that's, okay it's not a. Criticism
(30:11):
in THE, nfl we don't. Care if you're tough and
physical Like Baltimore, pittsburgh well you could be A Super bowl.
CHAMP nba we like a little flash or we don't
give you the credit you. DESERVE i THINK i Think
boston stacked the fact that they. Are they can go
into ANY nba Aren now they could go Into okay
see in the final and win by. Eighteen they are
they not many teams in the league can do, that all,
(30:33):
Right je mack Are now you have tomorrow off AND
i have tomorrow. Off what do you got planned for
the big? Weekend you got three?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
THERE i don't you, KNOW i got to prepare for next,
WEEK i gotta put some takes in the, holster get them,
ready ready for.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Action already cooking up some. Stuff we'll.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
See i'll tell you, What Duke, houston that is one
for the.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Age If duke, Loses i'll be kind of sort of.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Devastated then it loses, Luster like are you tired up
about A Houston auburn final or he's.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
WELL i Picked auburn to, win SO i would be would.
Yeah you, know it's the thing About florida And. Auburn,
florida as good as they, are they're one of those
teams that can go come down and give you four
or five minutes of wasted, possessions you, know and college
teams do that a. Lot duke. Doesn't duke doesn't give
you wasted. Possessions where you, Know, duke they know what they,
(31:26):
are they lean into what they, are and they've got
a sensational. Player and that's what that's really the difference
of having a superstar in THE nba is and that's
What milwaukee struggles. With, Yes jannis is their, star but
he's a liability at the free throw, Line so do
you always go to him? Late you, know the shack
Without kobe or D wade is is really a, force
but you didn't want him at the free throw, line
(31:48):
and and, so and that's Why duncan was great when
he Had mano And Tony Tony parker because they could
hit the free. Throws and so that that in, College
duke has The, okay let's let we need three straight great.
Possessions you just give the ball To Cooper flag and
get out of the. Way and Even AUBURN i, like
but they have fewer of them because they have two
(32:08):
guys that can get a bucket is a lot of
these college, teams like even the good teams Like florida Or,
houston you can get into a little bit Of, man
we've gone four straight. Possessions we have not gotten a
good look at.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
All the other concern With duke is they haven't played
a close game in a.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
While they haven't had like down to the.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Wire they had some earlier this year When Cooper flag
was eighteen and they ended up losing a couple of.
THOSE i Think kansas was, One BUT i don't really have.
CONCERNS i think they shoot free throws, great one of
the best free throw shooting teams in the, country like
should be.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Fine, yeah my guess Is i'm gonna Go Duke. Auburn
i'll Go Duke, florida all, right best of her. Tomorrow be.
Safe it's a heard
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