April 11, 2025 • 32 mins
NBA reporter Jovan Buha joins the show in studio to talk about the Lakers title chances and how they stack up the other contenders in the West
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Power Hour time Listen. It is mock draft season. That's SZN.
That's what the cool kids say online. So I did
drop my NBA mock draft for twenty twenty five this
week for Fox Sports dot Com. Cooper Flag at the top.
By the way, Alex will be interviewing Cooper Flag.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Right after the show.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
After the show. Yeah, very exciting. People love the draft.
I love talking about the draft. And the staff just
showed me. Hey, Bucky Brooks has been You know, Bucky
Book's really good. He comes on the show.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
I know him, like him.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
He's like a football coach locally. He's awesome guy. So
he has posted his best quarterback prospects coming into the
draft pre draft since twenty twenty three. Caleb Williams one
should not surprise anybody. C J Stroud two might be
a surprise. Because a lot of people had Bryce Young first,
Panthers straighted up for him, Bucky did not. Bucky also
had Jayden Daniels third, which is interesting, Drake May fourth, Young,
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and then Pennox Junior. If you're wondering, you know, for
the radio audience, cam Ward is seventh, cam Ward seventh,
and Quarterback Prospects is twenty twenty three, Shadure eight. Now
you're like, wait, Jason, you said top ten. Yeah, Bucky
brook says Shadduur ahead of JJ McCarthy and Bo Nicks
and Anthony Richardson. McCarthy went top ten to the Vikings.
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Bo Nicks went right around the top ten to the Broncos,
and Anthony Richardson went four to the Coles. So this,
you know, we open the show talking about shaudor sliding
because the Brown's out of Flacco. There are still some
people do beious that that means really anything that Kirk
Cousins could show be in play or Shadure at the
top of the second round, because they have committed a
lot of money, and I guess Florio drilled down on
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the contract for Flacco when it's really only a three
million dollar deal, which isn't much, although incentives could take
it to thirteen million. That's that ain't happening. So, like,
Shador sliding is interesting, but not that bad. And again,
as I said at the outset, Dan Marino slid in
the draft, Aaron Rodgers slid in the draft, Lamar Jackson slid.
They all landed in great spots and had amazing careers.
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So you don't want to overreact to shador sliding. I'm
personally surprised that he's not going to all the pun
did say you got to take the best player the
best player, Like, all right, Bill Carter's gonna be really,
really good. I get it. But if you don't have
a quarterback, are you doing anything? And then Brown still
don't have a quarterback, don't tell me Kenny Pickett is going.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
To be the starter.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
If he's the starter for more than like two games,
they're screwed. Okay, So Shador sliding a little bit. I
don't think we should overreact. Let's go out, Alex Krone.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
The news.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Turn. This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Now let's keep talking about quarterbacks. But we're going to
talk about the Jags because, first of your head coach
Liam Gohen met with the media earlier this week and
noted that he's excited to work with quarterback Trevor Lawrence,
and he talked about some of the ways he plans
to help Lawrence get better.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Take a listen, it's really good change, just tweaking.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
He's extremely talented, and he's made some unbelievable plays and
critical moments and led some huge comebacks. He's played hurt,
He's done so many good things. Now it's just about, Okay,
how do we fine tune it and just tighten it
up a little bit, being able to give him some
balance around him so that he can feel like, man,
not every play is on me, right, Not every play
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I got, every throw I have to make is going
to have to be life for death man. We've got
to create some balance for him so that he can
just go play quieted with a you know, free of failure,
and just go let it rip.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Every play is on him when you have the ball
and you're trying to make it, get like a throw
and complete a throw. It's just anything you can do
at this point to help make him better, like figure
it out and do it. Because Lawrence has not lived
up to the expectations he had when he was drafted.
When he's been playing, I mean his last fifteen starts,
he's two and thirteen with a sixty one point three
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completion percentage passer rating of eighty three point eight. Do
you think it's too late for Lawrence or can he
turn it around? He's getting paid like a top tier quarterback.
He was drafted like a top tier quarterback, but we
haven't seen top tier quarterback play from him yet in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
That looks really bad.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
That's what I'm telling you. That's not good.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But there, you know, there is there's context needing, you know,
and he's on what is this is his third or
fourth coach? How many different offensive coordinators? Skill position players
are up and down? He has not been great. He's
had some injuries.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah, all Jerry our excuses opposed to like seeing Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Who would you rather have going into the season to
or Trevor Lawrence tua O Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence Jordan Love.
I'm stunned why they've had success. That doesn't. Past performance
doesn't is not an indicator of future success. That's a
stock market.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Wisdom saying, Alan, Sure, I've seen the proof, though I
haven't seen the proof here.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
We were talking a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I doubt proof to Clemson fors Ohio State, the NATI No,
that cave, that's still one of my favorite places.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Absolutely, you're living in the past, man, you're living in
the past.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
All right.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm team Trevor, Lawrence, Trevor. I got your back, bro,
I got you. You're going places this season. I hope
so record than the GIP. I hope so that it
moves too far what Ryan Music?
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Absolutely not. That is absolutely insane joke. Okay, I was
gonna say.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I'm the check your tab if you really believe that.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Okay, let's move on to the diraft because Fox sports
dot com Eric Williams picked five teams that kuld draft
Jalen Milroe j mack. Your Jets are fifth on the list,
Steelers are fourth, and the Giants and the Saints and
the Browns round out the top three. Where do you
think the best landing spot for Jalen Milroe would be?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Oh? I would love Milroe with the Jets, just not
at seven. That's a little rich. Is he going to
fall to the Jets have to trade up to get him.
I like Milroe more than most people gosh, don't go
to the Giants. Are Steelers to just get ruin there.
Saints are terrible. Yeah, I would take them with the
Jet Jaalen Molrow, I would not that.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
And according to reports by Fox Sports insider Jordan Schwortz,
Milroe has impressed in private workouts with the Browns and
the Saints. He also met with reps of the Steelers
and Jets before his pro day and has meetings scheduled
with the Giants, Rams, and the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And this guy showed the video of him running in
his underwear. The guy looks like an adonnas. Wait what
I mean? How do you know it is pro day?
He's just sprinting faster. I mean he's the third fastest
quarterback I think on record, after Vic Okay and Lamar Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
He's got the dynamics. This is a dynamic quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And get the throwing motion down. Okay, figure that out.
That can't be that hard. You know, these coaches are
paid millions of dollars.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Shit, that hard only the hardest thing to do, and
the hardest position with ball was the hardest thing to hit.
I think what they said is like hitting a baseball
is the hardest thing, right.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, anybody could throw. I mean, Coward was a high
school football quarterback.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Oh don't you are just shots fired today, jam Exfinite Friday.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You're like somebody spiked my fun.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Okay, Well let's end.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
In New England, Mike gray Ball had his first meeting
with Patriot players and there's some mixed reactions from fans
and social media from what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Take a listen.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
We're building our own identity, We're building our own team,
We're building our own program. There's going to be things
within that that are different. There's going to be things
within that that are the same, okay, And it's all
going to be based on how do we make you, guys, Okay,
as good as you possibly can be as an individual,
(08:16):
as a player, and then as a teammate. That's going
to be our whole goal. And you have to start
understanding that of why we're doing what we're doing.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
I love this attitude. I mean, he was the best
fit for this franchise as a head coach. He's a
legendary Patriots player, he knows what it takes.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
To win, and he had new rules.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
His new rules are treat all staff with respect, hoodies
down during meetings beyond time, and cell phones away during
team activities.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Those are not bad.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, those are good rules to abide.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Bye.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I don't have an issue with him coming in with
a strong take and a strong like we want to
make you better, and how we make you better is
how we make the whole group better.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
When we make the whole group better, our record and
our team is going to be better.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
But it all starts at bottom. You do have to
respect everybody. You have to pay attention, you have to
one by.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
In listening to that, I would run through a walk,
That's what.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I was saying.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
I was like that that had like Campbell vibes to it.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You're you're like, yeah, let's go. It's a grit, that's
that's rough. Let's we can do this.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I staggered into the morning meeting a little late this morning,
and I just pounded the fist, gave my chief spiel
and everybody's like, let's go.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I love it. Jane.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Now they don't, Actually they do. No one does. J Mac.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You're on an island.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
There, you're on another Alex Urry with the news.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
The herd line all right, this is exciting, folks. We
got a guest coming on. We're gonna bring him on
right now. I always butchers name because I've had him
on my podcast, I've seen him at Laker games. He's
a tall presence walking around. Joan Jovonne Bouja from The
Athletic Lakers Reporter, sorry to Butcher the name, Buddy. Great
to see.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yes, this guy.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
He's phenomenal covering the Lakers, and obviously it's a great
time to be a Lakers fan. They're going to lock
in on the three seed right All they need is
one win in the final two.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
I think they should lock it in tonight.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And what do you feel confident about the team heading
into the postseason? Only twenty seven games for Luca in
a Lakers jersey.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I do.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
I think they're the second best team in the West
right now. The only team I would consider taking over
them would be Oklahoma City just due to the dominant
season that they've had them having home court in that matchup.
The Lakers have struggled at times on the road, but
right now you look at what they've done post Luca.
The offense is finally coming together. It was really the
defense carrying them in those early few weeks, I think
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they look really good. I mean they were up by
one against Okay, see in the second matchup right before
Luca egregiously got tossed in a that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Was you were in the arena for I was there.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, okay, so you know that meat ball stands up.
He's yelling at Luca, but the ref was right in
the line.
Speaker 9 (10:52):
It was like wrong place, wrong time for Luca. Of
just he looked back at the fan and the ref
was like running right by the fan at that time.
So I think that the ref thought he was talking
to him, but he had also picked up a tech earlier.
That was not a great day arguing on Jared Vanderbilt's behalf.
So I mean, I I don't think it's he's the
easiest player to refle Let's say, right, but you gotta
(11:13):
at that point I think just say like my bad
and rescind it.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
But you know it was they did rescind it.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
After that, they did rescind it.
Speaker 9 (11:19):
But in the moment that all the players immediately reacted like, no,
he was talking to the fan. He was talking to
the fan because he's had a back and forth with
that fan going back to the last postseason, so when
he torched the MAVs.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, yeah, it was awesome, or when he was with
the MAVs torching.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Ok.
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Speaker 3 (11:41):
All right, let me turn back the clock a little bit.
So February you get word that the trade has happened
a d for Luca. I mean just your initial were
you like lighting in bed, going to say, look what
was going down when you heard it and talk to
me about that.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
I was at Madison Square Garden, so because that was
a late game, because it was it was an eight
thirty PM Eastern time game, so we cleared the locker
room a little after like eleven. And it was one
of the Lakers' best wins of the season. They won
in New York without Anthony Davis. That was one of
their first big wins with this centerless group that they've
been going with. So Max Christy, who ended up getting traded,
(12:17):
had a really good game that there was the viral
clip of like as he's talking to us, they take
down his name plate and it was completely coincidental of
the tithing, but it was kind of indicative.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Of what was about to happen.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
But Lebron, remember, he almost had I think forty of
that game, and they looked really good. It was like
one of their best wins of the season. And then
less than an hour after we cleared the locker room,
the trade happens, and there was only four of us
in the Nick's press room at that time, and someone
just yelled out the Lakers just got Luca, and none
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of us believed it, and so we immediately started like
texting people and no one's believing it, and then all
of a sudden, Shams puts out his follow up of
this is real, and then we all started like scrambling
and it's just a mad dash and we're going around
the arena calling people, texting people, and Nixed security is like, no,
you can't go here, you can't go there. So it
was it was a while night. I stayed up at
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that point. It dropped like twelve fifteen am Eastern time.
I was up till seven writing than I did my
podcast went live, So.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
It was it was a crazy night.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So a lot of people think Lebron was involved in this,
but I don't know. Everything I've heard is he was
not involved at all. I don't even think he got
a heads up. What do you know about that?
Speaker 9 (13:30):
I don't think he was involved. I know there's been
a lot of speculation that I do think the circle
was a little bit bigger than what has been indicated,
but not by like much like I think the respective
front office is new to some extent, right because that
there's been some reporting now coming out that there was
some pushback with Nico inside the Mavericks for not like,
I think it wasn't literally just like Rob Plink and
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Nico Harrison and the two owners. I think it was
a little bit of a larger circle than that, but
but more so within the respective front.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Off this is.
Speaker 9 (14:00):
But outside of that, I like Luca clearly didn't know,
right because you've seen the reactions and the way that
the tribute hit him.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
There's no way that like that guy did not know
he was getting traded.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
He was about to buy a fifteen million dollars house
in Dallas that he was considering his his forever house,
so like he thought he was getting the super Max
this summer buying that house, and like was going to
be a Maverick for life, So.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I don't think lebron knew, though we'll.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Get to the Dallas aspect of it, but I'm curious,
what is it like to cover Luka Doncics, be in
the locker room with him. He's good in interviews, you know,
the English is fine, but I know he's combative on
the court and gets like you know, with the refs
other players. But what's it like covering him on a
daily basis.
Speaker 9 (14:41):
I would call him stoic and jovial, like a mix
of that, So it depends on if it's a win
or a loss. But he's completely you know, off the court,
he's much more introverted and quiet, and he'll he'll crack
some jokes every now and then, but like the fiery,
expressive personality that you see on the court, that's not
how he is off of it. And he kind of
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talks about that duality of like flipping that switch, being
a killer.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
On the floor and then off the floor. He's much
more laid back.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
But we'll say, but he's been fun cover And he
did say a few weeks ago that he's like, I
like short answers, so he tried. He's efficient with his
answers to us. He tries to keep it like one
to three sentences.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I appreciate that. So let me ask, it's weird we've
talked you for five minutes and we barely mentioned Lebron James,
who I think is the greatest player in NBA historygre
and that kind of says where we are. But what
have you seen a different Lebron since the trade? Because
it you know, if that last game against Dallas is
any indication they're going to ride Luca early with a
dose of Reeves and then Lebron's your closer, because that
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seemed to be the case against Golden State about eight
days ago when they lost the game.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Yeah, I think Luca and Lebron compliment each other well,
because you see, with Luca, he gets off to these
really big first quarters first halfs, and if you actually
break it down by points per quarter, he's at like
thirty forty percent more points in the first quarter compared
to each other quarter, So he's at about like ten
points a game in the first quarter. So he's often
setting the tone early and then he likes to have
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defenses overreact and just kind of freak out to that.
Then you start seeing the doubles, the blitzes, and then
he picks you apart with his passing.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Lebron's the opposite. Lebron likes to pick his spots early.
Speaker 9 (16:17):
And then when everyone's tired, he goes to that extra
gear in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
And then you saw it in the Dallas game.
Speaker 9 (16:23):
He had thirteen points in that fourth quarter and really
sealed it as Dallas they made a little run there
to regain the lead. Then Lebron took over and the
Lakers on that one. So I think that that kind
of combination of Luca's hitting you early and then Lebron
comes in for the haymaker late.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
And look, Luca's capable.
Speaker 9 (16:39):
I mean, he's one of the most clutch players in
the league. He's capable of taking and making big shots.
But like, I think that that's kind of been the
way they've been going about it.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, we could roll back to Rudy Gobert tape. Yes, Hi,
Oh that was epic. I was actually at a Laker
I think that was at a Lakers game when that happened,
or maybe I was, Oh, no, it was a Sparks game.
It was I was at like a Sparks Caitlin Clark.
When I went down saw that on. Let me ask
quickly about Austin Reeves and how he fits in here.
I've been pushing him on Coward for a while. Coward
(17:09):
has been like a little overrated. Then I came on
here and said, I think Austin Reeves is at least
as good as or better than Mark Price, who may
have been before your time in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
And all these people are like, no, no, no, Mark Price,
come on, he was an All star. Austin Reeves is
underrated and he's on an amazing contract. What's it like
him fitting in with these two icons.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
It's been incredible because on paper you thought that Austin
would have to take a bit of a step back,
because since the d'angela Russell trade, he's really amped up. Yeah,
his usage, his efficiency, his production and at first few
games that there were some growing pains there where he
had a lot of turnovers, he struggled against some more
athletic backcourts.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
But from that point on of.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Like early January, he's been playing at an all star
level and really looking at the last fifteen he's twenty
five to five and five with like efficient shooting, So
it's been interesting to see, like with Luca coming, things
have actually increased for Austin in terms of his role
in his usage is field goal attempts and all that.
So I think it's actually been Lebron who's taken a
little bit more of a step back and been playing
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a little bit more off the ball. Austin and Lebron
have a really good two man games, so he comes
up and screens for Austin, and I think they're still
kind of working that out with Lebron and Luca. But
Austin's been been great and he's making thirteen million dollars
a year, so that's one of the best contracts.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
He seems super happy to be here, like you never
see him frowning or anything. Let me ask. I made
a case earlier this week that the Lakers have like
a bit of a They appear to be villains, right.
Lebron's a flopper, Luca argues and yells at refs, and
then there's just a Laker narrative who we hate the
Lakers and they get gifted Luka Doncic and it feels
like going to the playoffs, we know he's got beef
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with Dylan Brooks, Desmond Vane, Draymond Green. Every team has
had like their moments.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
With these are everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Do you think they are kind of the villains.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
Of the league you could say that. I mean, I
think the Celtics are up there too, you know. I
think that there's just some natural also because of how
many Laker fans that there are everywhere, like that, the
Celtics naturally become the villains. But also they're the defending champs,
so I think that that plays a part. But yeah,
I mean I think so, like Luke has beef with everybody,
and the Lakers, by nature have now inherited with everybody.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
So and I thought it was funny with the tribute video.
Speaker 9 (19:17):
When we asked him after the game, what was your
favorite moment from the tribute video?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
He said the Rudy Goberh and that was like, you
guy's diabolical.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
He really he's a killer. I mean, I love him.
I guess my question is Lakers heading into this weekend
needing two wins or one win to lot one win? Yeah,
it looks like they'll play the Warriors or Clippers.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
So I did a quick calculation, and I think it's
going to be most likely the Warriors or the Timberwolves, depending.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
On what happens with now.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
That's if everything goes chocked, because right now some of
these teams are resting.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I just saw that.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Yeah, So looking at it tonight, every game is easy
for the teams and the playoff mix, except for Denver
and Memphis. Play in Denver second out of a back
to the For Memphis they just lost last night to Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Theoretically, Denver should win that game they're fighting.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
If Denver wins out, they're going to be the four
seed and kind of salvage what's been a pretty rough
season for them.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
But looking at it, I think it's going to come
down to Clippers.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Versus Warriors, and if the Clippers win that game, Lakers
will play the Timberwolves. If the Warriors win that game,
the Lakers will play the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Huh, who scares you more? Well, that's tough for me
to ask you. But who do you think is a
tougher matchup for the Lakers, Warriors or Timberwolves Warriors?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think that the Warriors are.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
I mean, we just saw them and beat the Lakers,
so there are some recency bias there with that. But
I just think they're switching scheme. The Lakers offense has
gummed up at times against switching schemes. I think Draymond
at the five is a look where they've really picked
on big men lately. I think one of the most
encouraging things for the Lakers is they've gone up against
Memphis and Houston and OKC and now just Dallas, some
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of the biggest teams in the West, and they've been
able to play their double big lineups off the floor
because Luca and Austin and Lebron can go mismatch hunting.
You can't do that as much against Golden State because
it's not a mismatch against Draymond Green. So I think
them with their motion offense as well, that can give
the Lakers some problems. They like to play fast, they
get out and transition, They're constantly moving and cutting.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I think between those two, Golden State's the tougher one. Now.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Minnesota did take down Denver last year. Anthony Edwards was amazing.
They did have towns, but I think he got benched
in there. Minnesota seems limited offensively, but defensively they got
they could throw McDaniels right and go bear protecting the room.
That could be a problem for the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Well, Luca versus Gobert, we've seen that movie before. He
wants that. But I'm with you.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
I think on paper, Minnesota has all of the traits
of a team that you think would give the Lakers problems.
They got the size, they got perimeter defense, and they
got the apex superstar in Anthony Edwards, who we've seen
can rise to the moment. However, to your point, I
think you can double and blitz and really force the
ball out of Ant's hands and then it's like Julius
Randall nas reed Jaden McDaniels, I like those guys to
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an extend as the number two option in a playoff
series against the Lakers. I think the Lakers would have
three of the four best players on the court in
that series.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, I had a hot take against the Thunder. I
think the Lakers have three of the four best players.
I'm sorry I go off.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
To that case over J Dubb. You can make that.
I mean I would probably go J Dubb, But but
if Austin out played him, wouldn't be like shocked by.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
You think the Lakers are worried about J. Dubb heading
into a playoff se.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
No, they're not. They're not afraid of okay seed.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
No one's to be completely no one.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
If you talk to NBA players, they're not afraid of Oka. See.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, what do you make of the whole free throw
merchant stuff. I'm sure you've heard it. I'm sure SGA
has heard it.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
That I think is a little bit overblown because even
that that, I thought he had a good first game
against the Lakers, like like they held him to a
relatively inefficient night for no free throws.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
But like, even within.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
That, I thought he still got to his spots, uh
and was you know, pretty productive in that game. So
I think it's a little overblown. It is an element,
but I think Sha is really good obviously.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Top two.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Do you have an MVP vote?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I do.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Will you give it to Share or Joker?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
It's going out in the wire for me. I am
leaning Joker.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
I don't think he's gonna win. I think she's gonna win.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
But I think it's we do this thing where like
it reminds me of Lebron in his prime, where he
would have the best numbers and his team would be
really good, and then we would talk ourselves into another
player where it's like Rose Jokich's numbers are the best
and his team is really good, and is it as
good as it was last season or maybe in previous seasons. Though,
(23:32):
I also think you could look at like the bench
and some of the roster decisions they made, and clearly
the coaching situation was not where it should have been,
at least based on the locker room reaction. So I
just I don't want to overcomplicate it. Like if you
polled all thirty GMS, at least twenty seven would say
Yokich is the best player. Yeah, So it's like and
(23:52):
his numbers, Shane's numbers are right there. I'm not like
discounting his numbers. But it's not a thirty point triple double, yeah,
like sixty point triple double.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Sixty point yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Yeah, but you had the thirty twenty twenty game as well,
Like it's close. I just I default to the guy
who I think is.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
While we're on the Nuggets, anything on Michael Malone, I mean,
did that shock.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You or the timing shocked me?
Speaker 9 (24:13):
Not like it had been the worst kept secret in
the NBA that Malone and Booth had some beef now
going for a couple of years, so that that didn't
shock me, But the timing of it to fire your
coach three games left in the regular season and your GM.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You know, so, are they less dangerous or more dangerous now?
Because they're gonna be They're gonna look different they did
the other night playing starting picket Westbrook a few.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
A lot fewer minute.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
I mean, honestly, I think if you play Westbrook less,
they get a bit more dangerous. I think Jamal Murray's
the wild card there, but with his health and whether
he's going to be back for the first round series.
But depending on how things shake out, it's looking like
they can lock up the four seed.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
And if they lock up the four seed, I would
likely favor them in round one. Problem is than round
two you get Okay.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
See, Yeah, they didn't match up with as well last year.
I think it's been a little bit of a better
match up this year. But I would favor Okasee.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
All right last one. So the whole Lakers thunder thing
is fascinating to me. I don't know if you how
much you look at the gambling onds okac to win
the West is like minus one point fifty, right, the
Lakers are like plus six hundred, And that disconnect to
me is crazy. Yeah, because the numbers regular season numbers.
Okaysey's awesome, but the eye test and knowing Luca and Lebron,
(25:21):
I'm like, I like the Lakers in that series. I'm
curious what you like down the stretch of games. We
know the Lakers are gonna have four awesome guys on
the court, right, and maybe the fifth is like whoever's hot,
Gabe Vincent one day, maybe Goodwin, whatever. I don't know
what Okac does down the stretch. Who are their five
core guys? Because they can't play the two bigs against
the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
You're not going two bigs. You're probably going Shay Door,
jdubb Chet.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
And then that fifth guy might be a rotating But
between is that enough shooting Son Wallace or Isaiah Joe,
Aaron Wiggan, something like Kenrich Will like Caruso, you spent
on some money's could be the other guy. I think
there could be some spacing concerns a little bit. But
but you know, Cruso is one of the best perimeter guys.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Is good.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I would assume it's probably Wallace, but but Wallace or Caruso. Yeah,
that's a good call.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
Yeah, for the Lakers, Like, I think their closing lineup
is going to be DFS, Ruy, Lebron, Austin and Luca.
That lineup has been crushing it on both sides, and
I just I don't know how you match up with
it because the way they're able to space you out
and they can pick and pop with Ruey or DFS
have the other guy in the corner, and they could
obviously run two or three man actions with Luca, Lebron
(26:29):
and Austin, it's like it's basically unguardable. And then defensively,
those lineups have been really really good, and you saw.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
It against AD. They took AD out of that.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
Game totally at thirteen points, so they're doubling and swarming
and like are they kind.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Of built like the Celtics a lot of length and wings.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
A little bit, I could see it.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
I mean, I think obviously Boston's got like half of
Team USA on their teams, so it's a little different,
but I think that's the team to me that like
is the toughest matchup for the Lakers because they can
switch and they have so much I'm athleticism, length and
defense that obviously, like you know, the the defending champs
for a reason, but that'd be a fun finals.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Certainly, all right, jovon Booja amazing stuff covering the game tonight.
I guess I will be the Lakers Rockets. Say hi
to him. He's a nice guy, walks around the concourse.
I've seen him out there. Great stuff coming up next
year on the show, My AFC playoff teams kind of
set the Internet on fire an hour ago. I'm getting
a lot of heat, folks. The chiefs are not making it.
That's next.
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Speaker 3 (28:31):
Great stuff from Jovann Bouja. He like Alex Curry, will
be talking to Cooper Flag after the show. I didn't
get the invite people, but I'm out anyway, so I'll
miss your Cooper. You should ask him, Yeah, Cooper, what
do you know about Utah or would you rather be
in Utah or Chicago?
Speaker 6 (28:48):
I you know what, I think you just focus on
like being that number one overall pick and just being
excited about that. But no, I'm excited to say he's eighteen. Yeah,
Cooper Flag is eighteen. I just wanted to analys life's
about to change forever.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
So I'm excited. I'm excited to talk to Cooper Flag.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So during the break, after that great interview with I'm
hyping my own interview.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
That's bad.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I just like Jovan, he's good. So I get a
text from Eddie House, who was on the show this week.
The staff's like, what do you say. I'm like, I'm
not telling you. I'll reveal her on air. Here we go,
Eddie House, No way, you just said Austin Reeves is
better than Mark Price. Mark Price played defense, Austin Reeves
is a liability on the defensive end. I call bs.
Austin Reeves is a good defender, not great. But I'll
(29:31):
tell you this. Give me six seven Mark Price and
his length on defense over six to one Mark Price.
Austin Reeves better defender than Mark Price. I'm sorry, Eddie House.
I'll take Austin Reeves any day of the week. All right, Gosh,
it's a good way to end the show. Eddie House
texting me upset. He's a good dude, by the way,
So let's put up our AFC playoff teams hour. Sorry
(29:52):
Alex for lumping you in with that.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
No, my, do you put this?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Alex? Fine everywhere here? Seven let's hear you're seven in
the no time to prepare.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Let me hold it, let me let me pull it up.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, hold on, Bill's obviously Ravens. I'll give you those.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think everybody has Texans. So there's three layups.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I can't believe you have the Patriots in there.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'm blaming Coward for that one. They he loves them Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
You gotta Chiefs are division winners for me, like I
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I don't have the Chargers as division winners. I have
the Chiefs in there. I have the Bengals in there.
I think they're going to improve. Like that we were
seeing we're finally seeing a healthy Burrow and he had
like one of the most insane personal seasons. The team
just like couldn't get behind them. And they just signed
both their guys, so they're gonna be fine. Like, I
won't argue, but I'm gonna put I'm gonna put the
(30:44):
Chiefs as division winners and put the Chargers in the
Wildcard and take the Patriots out.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I don't know why you like everything except one. Yeah,
not bad, gosh, not bad.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I just I cannot.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Believe you don't have the Chiefs in there and you
put the Patriots in there.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Overrated, No excuse used me.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
I don't think anybody is going to agree with you
on that one.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Oh myhomes is going to prove me wrong. He always
does as he sho Super Bowl when the Eagles spanked.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Him, okay on the one game. One game, and you're
going to.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Discount the three Super Bowls that they've had since twenty nineteen,
being a dynasty, being the best quarterback coach duo in
the league during his time in the league.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
He is the best quarterback in the league. And he
just they had it off game.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Well, he wasn't characteristically last year, Josh Allen and Lemon.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
You don't have to be statistically. It has to be
what you're able to do in the moment and winning games,
which is when they've done Super Bowl could not deliver
in who else who else playing right now has won
three Super Bowls since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I just I live in the now. I live in
the I don't want to go back to the I've
good about it. I'm living in the wild. Oh gosh,
I love me some Chiefs bashing in all real talk,
smoking mirrors. Last year point differential was pooh pooh. I'm
just I'm keeping it real with you guys. They're gonna
have some bumpy moments this season for the Chiefs. It
(32:01):
would be okay if they regress. By the way, when
I was watching the Super Bowl and Cooper Dejane got
that interception, he started running it back, I'm standing up,
freaking out. It was joyous with the family, folks. It's
been a phenomenal week. Coward's back Monday, Alex, enjoy your weekend.
I will enjoy my weekend and next week off. Everybody'd
be safe out there. Go Lakers.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Power Hour time Listen. It is mock draft season. That's SZN.
That's what the cool kids say online. So I did
drop my NBA mock draft for twenty twenty five this
week for Fox Sports dot Com. Cooper Flag at the top.
By the way, Alex will be interviewing Cooper Flag.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Right after the show.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
After the show. Yeah, very exciting. People love the draft.
I love talking about the draft. And the staff just
showed me. Hey, Bucky Brooks has been You know, Bucky
Book's really good. He comes on the show.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
I know him, like him.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
He's like a football coach locally. He's awesome guy. So
he has posted his best quarterback prospects coming into the
draft pre draft since twenty twenty three. Caleb Williams one
should not surprise anybody. C J Stroud two might be
a surprise. Because a lot of people had Bryce Young first,
Panthers straighted up for him, Bucky did not. Bucky also
had Jayden Daniels third, which is interesting, Drake May fourth, Young,
(01:18):
and then Pennox Junior. If you're wondering, you know, for
the radio audience, cam Ward is seventh, cam Ward seventh,
and Quarterback Prospects is twenty twenty three, Shadure eight. Now
you're like, wait, Jason, you said top ten. Yeah, Bucky
brook says Shadduur ahead of JJ McCarthy and Bo Nicks
and Anthony Richardson. McCarthy went top ten to the Vikings.
(01:42):
Bo Nicks went right around the top ten to the Broncos,
and Anthony Richardson went four to the Coles. So this,
you know, we open the show talking about shaudor sliding
because the Brown's out of Flacco. There are still some
people do beious that that means really anything that Kirk
Cousins could show be in play or Shadure at the
top of the second round, because they have committed a
lot of money, and I guess Florio drilled down on
(02:06):
the contract for Flacco when it's really only a three
million dollar deal, which isn't much, although incentives could take
it to thirteen million. That's that ain't happening. So, like,
Shador sliding is interesting, but not that bad. And again,
as I said at the outset, Dan Marino slid in
the draft, Aaron Rodgers slid in the draft, Lamar Jackson slid.
They all landed in great spots and had amazing careers.
(02:30):
So you don't want to overreact to shador sliding. I'm
personally surprised that he's not going to all the pun
did say you got to take the best player the
best player, Like, all right, Bill Carter's gonna be really,
really good. I get it. But if you don't have
a quarterback, are you doing anything? And then Brown still
don't have a quarterback, don't tell me Kenny Pickett is going.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
To be the starter.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
If he's the starter for more than like two games,
they're screwed. Okay, So Shador sliding a little bit. I
don't think we should overreact. Let's go out, Alex Krone.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
The news.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Turn. This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Now let's keep talking about quarterbacks. But we're going to
talk about the Jags because, first of your head coach
Liam Gohen met with the media earlier this week and
noted that he's excited to work with quarterback Trevor Lawrence,
and he talked about some of the ways he plans
to help Lawrence get better.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Take a listen, it's really good change, just tweaking.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
He's extremely talented, and he's made some unbelievable plays and
critical moments and led some huge comebacks. He's played hurt,
He's done so many good things. Now it's just about, Okay,
how do we fine tune it and just tighten it
up a little bit, being able to give him some
balance around him so that he can feel like, man,
not every play is on me, right, Not every play
(03:47):
I got, every throw I have to make is going
to have to be life for death man. We've got
to create some balance for him so that he can
just go play quieted with a you know, free of failure,
and just go let it rip.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Every play is on him when you have the ball
and you're trying to make it, get like a throw
and complete a throw. It's just anything you can do
at this point to help make him better, like figure
it out and do it. Because Lawrence has not lived
up to the expectations he had when he was drafted.
When he's been playing, I mean his last fifteen starts,
he's two and thirteen with a sixty one point three
(04:23):
completion percentage passer rating of eighty three point eight. Do
you think it's too late for Lawrence or can he
turn it around? He's getting paid like a top tier quarterback.
He was drafted like a top tier quarterback, but we
haven't seen top tier quarterback play from him yet in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
That looks really bad.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
That's what I'm telling you. That's not good.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But there, you know, there is there's context needing, you know,
and he's on what is this is his third or
fourth coach? How many different offensive coordinators? Skill position players
are up and down? He has not been great. He's
had some injuries.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah, all Jerry our excuses opposed to like seeing Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Who would you rather have going into the season to
or Trevor Lawrence tua O Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence Jordan Love.
I'm stunned why they've had success. That doesn't. Past performance
doesn't is not an indicator of future success. That's a
stock market.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Wisdom saying, Alan, Sure, I've seen the proof, though I
haven't seen the proof here.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
We were talking a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I doubt proof to Clemson fors Ohio State, the NATI No,
that cave, that's still one of my favorite places.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Absolutely, you're living in the past, man, you're living in
the past.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
All right.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm team Trevor, Lawrence, Trevor. I got your back, bro,
I got you. You're going places this season. I hope
so record than the GIP. I hope so that it
moves too far what Ryan Music?
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Absolutely not. That is absolutely insane joke. Okay, I was
gonna say.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I'm the check your tab if you really believe that.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Okay, let's move on to the diraft because Fox sports
dot com Eric Williams picked five teams that kuld draft
Jalen Milroe j mack. Your Jets are fifth on the list,
Steelers are fourth, and the Giants and the Saints and
the Browns round out the top three. Where do you
think the best landing spot for Jalen Milroe would be?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Oh? I would love Milroe with the Jets, just not
at seven. That's a little rich. Is he going to
fall to the Jets have to trade up to get him.
I like Milroe more than most people gosh, don't go
to the Giants. Are Steelers to just get ruin there.
Saints are terrible. Yeah, I would take them with the
Jet Jaalen Molrow, I would not that.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
And according to reports by Fox Sports insider Jordan Schwortz,
Milroe has impressed in private workouts with the Browns and
the Saints. He also met with reps of the Steelers
and Jets before his pro day and has meetings scheduled
with the Giants, Rams, and the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And this guy showed the video of him running in
his underwear. The guy looks like an adonnas. Wait what
I mean? How do you know it is pro day?
He's just sprinting faster. I mean he's the third fastest
quarterback I think on record, after Vic Okay and Lamar Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
He's got the dynamics. This is a dynamic quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And get the throwing motion down. Okay, figure that out.
That can't be that hard. You know, these coaches are
paid millions of dollars.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Shit, that hard only the hardest thing to do, and
the hardest position with ball was the hardest thing to hit.
I think what they said is like hitting a baseball
is the hardest thing, right.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, anybody could throw. I mean, Coward was a high
school football quarterback.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Oh don't you are just shots fired today, jam Exfinite Friday.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You're like somebody spiked my fun.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Okay, Well let's end.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
In New England, Mike gray Ball had his first meeting
with Patriot players and there's some mixed reactions from fans
and social media from what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Take a listen.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
We're building our own identity, We're building our own team,
We're building our own program. There's going to be things
within that that are different. There's going to be things
within that that are the same, okay, And it's all
going to be based on how do we make you, guys, Okay,
as good as you possibly can be as an individual,
(08:16):
as a player, and then as a teammate. That's going
to be our whole goal. And you have to start
understanding that of why we're doing what we're doing.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
I love this attitude. I mean, he was the best
fit for this franchise as a head coach. He's a
legendary Patriots player, he knows what it takes.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
To win, and he had new rules.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
His new rules are treat all staff with respect, hoodies
down during meetings beyond time, and cell phones away during
team activities.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Those are not bad.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, those are good rules to abide.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Bye.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I don't have an issue with him coming in with
a strong take and a strong like we want to
make you better, and how we make you better is
how we make the whole group better.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
When we make the whole group better, our record and
our team is going to be better.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
But it all starts at bottom. You do have to
respect everybody. You have to pay attention, you have to
one by.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
In listening to that, I would run through a walk,
That's what.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I was saying.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
I was like that that had like Campbell vibes to it.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You're you're like, yeah, let's go. It's a grit, that's
that's rough. Let's we can do this.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I staggered into the morning meeting a little late this morning,
and I just pounded the fist, gave my chief spiel
and everybody's like, let's go.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I love it. Jane.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Now they don't, Actually they do. No one does. J Mac.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You're on an island.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
There, you're on another Alex Urry with the news.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
The herd line all right, this is exciting, folks. We
got a guest coming on. We're gonna bring him on
right now. I always butchers name because I've had him
on my podcast, I've seen him at Laker games. He's
a tall presence walking around. Joan Jovonne Bouja from The
Athletic Lakers Reporter, sorry to Butcher the name, Buddy. Great
to see.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yes, this guy.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
He's phenomenal covering the Lakers, and obviously it's a great
time to be a Lakers fan. They're going to lock
in on the three seed right All they need is
one win in the final two.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
I think they should lock it in tonight.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And what do you feel confident about the team heading
into the postseason? Only twenty seven games for Luca in
a Lakers jersey.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I do.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
I think they're the second best team in the West
right now. The only team I would consider taking over
them would be Oklahoma City just due to the dominant
season that they've had them having home court in that matchup.
The Lakers have struggled at times on the road, but
right now you look at what they've done post Luca.
The offense is finally coming together. It was really the
defense carrying them in those early few weeks, I think
(10:35):
they look really good. I mean they were up by
one against Okay, see in the second matchup right before
Luca egregiously got tossed in a that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Was you were in the arena for I was there.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, okay, so you know that meat ball stands up.
He's yelling at Luca, but the ref was right in
the line.
Speaker 9 (10:52):
It was like wrong place, wrong time for Luca. Of
just he looked back at the fan and the ref
was like running right by the fan at that time.
So I think that the ref thought he was talking
to him, but he had also picked up a tech earlier.
That was not a great day arguing on Jared Vanderbilt's behalf.
So I mean, I I don't think it's he's the
easiest player to refle Let's say, right, but you gotta
(11:13):
at that point I think just say like my bad
and rescind it.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
But you know it was they did rescind it.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
After that, they did rescind it.
Speaker 9 (11:19):
But in the moment that all the players immediately reacted like, no,
he was talking to the fan. He was talking to
the fan because he's had a back and forth with
that fan going back to the last postseason, so when
he torched the MAVs.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, yeah, it was awesome, or when he was with
the MAVs torching.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Ok.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
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Speaker 3 (11:41):
All right, let me turn back the clock a little bit.
So February you get word that the trade has happened
a d for Luca. I mean just your initial were
you like lighting in bed, going to say, look what
was going down when you heard it and talk to
me about that.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
I was at Madison Square Garden, so because that was
a late game, because it was it was an eight
thirty PM Eastern time game, so we cleared the locker
room a little after like eleven. And it was one
of the Lakers' best wins of the season. They won
in New York without Anthony Davis. That was one of
their first big wins with this centerless group that they've
been going with. So Max Christy, who ended up getting traded,
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had a really good game that there was the viral
clip of like as he's talking to us, they take
down his name plate and it was completely coincidental of
the tithing, but it was kind of indicative.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Of what was about to happen.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
But Lebron, remember, he almost had I think forty of
that game, and they looked really good. It was like
one of their best wins of the season. And then
less than an hour after we cleared the locker room,
the trade happens, and there was only four of us
in the Nick's press room at that time, and someone
just yelled out the Lakers just got Luca, and none
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of us believed it, and so we immediately started like
texting people and no one's believing it, and then all
of a sudden, Shams puts out his follow up of
this is real, and then we all started like scrambling
and it's just a mad dash and we're going around
the arena calling people, texting people, and Nixed security is like, no,
you can't go here, you can't go there. So it
was it was a while night. I stayed up at
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that point. It dropped like twelve fifteen am Eastern time.
I was up till seven writing than I did my
podcast went live, So.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
It was it was a crazy night.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So a lot of people think Lebron was involved in this,
but I don't know. Everything I've heard is he was
not involved at all. I don't even think he got
a heads up. What do you know about that?
Speaker 9 (13:30):
I don't think he was involved. I know there's been
a lot of speculation that I do think the circle
was a little bit bigger than what has been indicated,
but not by like much like I think the respective
front office is new to some extent, right because that
there's been some reporting now coming out that there was
some pushback with Nico inside the Mavericks for not like,
I think it wasn't literally just like Rob Plink and
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Nico Harrison and the two owners. I think it was
a little bit of a larger circle than that, but
but more so within the respective front.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Off this is.
Speaker 9 (14:00):
But outside of that, I like Luca clearly didn't know,
right because you've seen the reactions and the way that
the tribute hit him.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
There's no way that like that guy did not know
he was getting traded.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
He was about to buy a fifteen million dollars house
in Dallas that he was considering his his forever house,
so like he thought he was getting the super Max
this summer buying that house, and like was going to
be a Maverick for life, So.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I don't think lebron knew, though we'll.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Get to the Dallas aspect of it, but I'm curious,
what is it like to cover Luka Doncics, be in
the locker room with him. He's good in interviews, you know,
the English is fine, but I know he's combative on
the court and gets like you know, with the refs
other players. But what's it like covering him on a
daily basis.
Speaker 9 (14:41):
I would call him stoic and jovial, like a mix
of that, So it depends on if it's a win
or a loss. But he's completely you know, off the court,
he's much more introverted and quiet, and he'll he'll crack
some jokes every now and then, but like the fiery,
expressive personality that you see on the court, that's not
how he is off of it. And he kind of
(15:02):
talks about that duality of like flipping that switch, being
a killer.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
On the floor and then off the floor. He's much
more laid back.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
But we'll say, but he's been fun cover And he
did say a few weeks ago that he's like, I
like short answers, so he tried. He's efficient with his
answers to us. He tries to keep it like one
to three sentences.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I appreciate that. So let me ask, it's weird we've
talked you for five minutes and we barely mentioned Lebron James,
who I think is the greatest player in NBA historygre
and that kind of says where we are. But what
have you seen a different Lebron since the trade? Because
it you know, if that last game against Dallas is
any indication they're going to ride Luca early with a
dose of Reeves and then Lebron's your closer, because that
(15:42):
seemed to be the case against Golden State about eight
days ago when they lost the game.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Yeah, I think Luca and Lebron compliment each other well,
because you see, with Luca, he gets off to these
really big first quarters first halfs, and if you actually
break it down by points per quarter, he's at like
thirty forty percent more points in the first quarter compared
to each other quarter, So he's at about like ten
points a game in the first quarter. So he's often
setting the tone early and then he likes to have
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defenses overreact and just kind of freak out to that.
Then you start seeing the doubles, the blitzes, and then
he picks you apart with his passing.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Lebron's the opposite. Lebron likes to pick his spots early.
Speaker 9 (16:17):
And then when everyone's tired, he goes to that extra
gear in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
And then you saw it in the Dallas game.
Speaker 9 (16:23):
He had thirteen points in that fourth quarter and really
sealed it as Dallas they made a little run there
to regain the lead. Then Lebron took over and the
Lakers on that one. So I think that that kind
of combination of Luca's hitting you early and then Lebron
comes in for the haymaker late.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
And look, Luca's capable.
Speaker 9 (16:39):
I mean, he's one of the most clutch players in
the league. He's capable of taking and making big shots.
But like, I think that that's kind of been the
way they've been going about it.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, we could roll back to Rudy Gobert tape. Yes, Hi,
Oh that was epic. I was actually at a Laker
I think that was at a Lakers game when that happened,
or maybe I was, Oh, no, it was a Sparks game.
It was I was at like a Sparks Caitlin Clark.
When I went down saw that on. Let me ask
quickly about Austin Reeves and how he fits in here.
I've been pushing him on Coward for a while. Coward
(17:09):
has been like a little overrated. Then I came on
here and said, I think Austin Reeves is at least
as good as or better than Mark Price, who may
have been before your time in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
And all these people are like, no, no, no, Mark Price,
come on, he was an All star. Austin Reeves is
underrated and he's on an amazing contract. What's it like
him fitting in with these two icons.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
It's been incredible because on paper you thought that Austin
would have to take a bit of a step back,
because since the d'angela Russell trade, he's really amped up. Yeah,
his usage, his efficiency, his production and at first few
games that there were some growing pains there where he
had a lot of turnovers, he struggled against some more
athletic backcourts.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
But from that point on of.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Like early January, he's been playing at an all star
level and really looking at the last fifteen he's twenty
five to five and five with like efficient shooting, So
it's been interesting to see, like with Luca coming, things
have actually increased for Austin in terms of his role
in his usage is field goal attempts and all that.
So I think it's actually been Lebron who's taken a
little bit more of a step back and been playing
(18:07):
a little bit more off the ball. Austin and Lebron
have a really good two man games, so he comes
up and screens for Austin, and I think they're still
kind of working that out with Lebron and Luca. But
Austin's been been great and he's making thirteen million dollars
a year, so that's one of the best contracts.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
He seems super happy to be here, like you never
see him frowning or anything. Let me ask. I made
a case earlier this week that the Lakers have like
a bit of a They appear to be villains, right.
Lebron's a flopper, Luca argues and yells at refs, and
then there's just a Laker narrative who we hate the
Lakers and they get gifted Luka Doncic and it feels
like going to the playoffs, we know he's got beef
(18:42):
with Dylan Brooks, Desmond Vane, Draymond Green. Every team has
had like their moments.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
With these are everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Do you think they are kind of the villains.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
Of the league you could say that. I mean, I
think the Celtics are up there too, you know. I
think that there's just some natural also because of how
many Laker fans that there are everywhere, like that, the
Celtics naturally become the villains. But also they're the defending champs,
so I think that that plays a part. But yeah,
I mean I think so, like Luke has beef with everybody,
and the Lakers, by nature have now inherited with everybody.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
So and I thought it was funny with the tribute video.
Speaker 9 (19:17):
When we asked him after the game, what was your
favorite moment from the tribute video?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
He said the Rudy Goberh and that was like, you
guy's diabolical.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
He really he's a killer. I mean, I love him.
I guess my question is Lakers heading into this weekend
needing two wins or one win to lot one win? Yeah,
it looks like they'll play the Warriors or Clippers.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
So I did a quick calculation, and I think it's
going to be most likely the Warriors or the Timberwolves, depending.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
On what happens with now.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
That's if everything goes chocked, because right now some of
these teams are resting.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I just saw that.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Yeah, So looking at it tonight, every game is easy
for the teams and the playoff mix, except for Denver
and Memphis. Play in Denver second out of a back
to the For Memphis they just lost last night to Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Theoretically, Denver should win that game they're fighting.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
If Denver wins out, they're going to be the four
seed and kind of salvage what's been a pretty rough
season for them.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
But looking at it, I think it's going to come
down to Clippers.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Versus Warriors, and if the Clippers win that game, Lakers
will play the Timberwolves. If the Warriors win that game,
the Lakers will play the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Huh, who scares you more? Well, that's tough for me
to ask you. But who do you think is a
tougher matchup for the Lakers, Warriors or Timberwolves Warriors?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think that the Warriors are.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
I mean, we just saw them and beat the Lakers,
so there are some recency bias there with that. But
I just think they're switching scheme. The Lakers offense has
gummed up at times against switching schemes. I think Draymond
at the five is a look where they've really picked
on big men lately. I think one of the most
encouraging things for the Lakers is they've gone up against
Memphis and Houston and OKC and now just Dallas, some
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of the biggest teams in the West, and they've been
able to play their double big lineups off the floor
because Luca and Austin and Lebron can go mismatch hunting.
You can't do that as much against Golden State because
it's not a mismatch against Draymond Green. So I think
them with their motion offense as well, that can give
the Lakers some problems. They like to play fast, they
get out and transition, They're constantly moving and cutting.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I think between those two, Golden State's the tougher one. Now.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Minnesota did take down Denver last year. Anthony Edwards was amazing.
They did have towns, but I think he got benched
in there. Minnesota seems limited offensively, but defensively they got
they could throw McDaniels right and go bear protecting the room.
That could be a problem for the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Well, Luca versus Gobert, we've seen that movie before. He
wants that. But I'm with you.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
I think on paper, Minnesota has all of the traits
of a team that you think would give the Lakers problems.
They got the size, they got perimeter defense, and they
got the apex superstar in Anthony Edwards, who we've seen
can rise to the moment. However, to your point, I
think you can double and blitz and really force the
ball out of Ant's hands and then it's like Julius
Randall nas reed Jaden McDaniels, I like those guys to
(22:01):
an extend as the number two option in a playoff
series against the Lakers. I think the Lakers would have
three of the four best players on the court in
that series.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, I had a hot take against the Thunder. I
think the Lakers have three of the four best players.
I'm sorry I go off.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
To that case over J Dubb. You can make that.
I mean I would probably go J Dubb, But but
if Austin out played him, wouldn't be like shocked by.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
You think the Lakers are worried about J. Dubb heading
into a playoff se.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
No, they're not. They're not afraid of okay seed.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
No one's to be completely no one.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
If you talk to NBA players, they're not afraid of Oka. See.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, what do you make of the whole free throw
merchant stuff. I'm sure you've heard it. I'm sure SGA
has heard it.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
That I think is a little bit overblown because even
that that, I thought he had a good first game
against the Lakers, like like they held him to a
relatively inefficient night for no free throws.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
But like, even within.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
That, I thought he still got to his spots, uh
and was you know, pretty productive in that game. So
I think it's a little overblown. It is an element,
but I think Sha is really good obviously.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Top two.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Do you have an MVP vote?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I do.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Will you give it to Share or Joker?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
It's going out in the wire for me. I am
leaning Joker.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
I don't think he's gonna win. I think she's gonna win.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
But I think it's we do this thing where like
it reminds me of Lebron in his prime, where he
would have the best numbers and his team would be
really good, and then we would talk ourselves into another
player where it's like Rose Jokich's numbers are the best
and his team is really good, and is it as
good as it was last season or maybe in previous seasons. Though,
(23:32):
I also think you could look at like the bench
and some of the roster decisions they made, and clearly
the coaching situation was not where it should have been,
at least based on the locker room reaction. So I
just I don't want to overcomplicate it. Like if you
polled all thirty GMS, at least twenty seven would say
Yokich is the best player. Yeah, So it's like and
(23:52):
his numbers, Shane's numbers are right there. I'm not like
discounting his numbers. But it's not a thirty point triple double, yeah,
like sixty point triple double.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Sixty point yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Yeah, but you had the thirty twenty twenty game as well,
Like it's close. I just I default to the guy
who I think is.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
While we're on the Nuggets, anything on Michael Malone, I mean,
did that shock.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You or the timing shocked me?
Speaker 9 (24:13):
Not like it had been the worst kept secret in
the NBA that Malone and Booth had some beef now
going for a couple of years, so that that didn't
shock me, But the timing of it to fire your
coach three games left in the regular season and your GM.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You know, so, are they less dangerous or more dangerous now?
Because they're gonna be They're gonna look different they did
the other night playing starting picket Westbrook a few.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
A lot fewer minute.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
I mean, honestly, I think if you play Westbrook less,
they get a bit more dangerous. I think Jamal Murray's
the wild card there, but with his health and whether
he's going to be back for the first round series.
But depending on how things shake out, it's looking like
they can lock up the four seed.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
And if they lock up the four seed, I would
likely favor them in round one. Problem is than round
two you get Okay.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
See, Yeah, they didn't match up with as well last year.
I think it's been a little bit of a better
match up this year. But I would favor Okasee.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
All right last one. So the whole Lakers thunder thing
is fascinating to me. I don't know if you how
much you look at the gambling onds okac to win
the West is like minus one point fifty, right, the
Lakers are like plus six hundred, And that disconnect to
me is crazy. Yeah, because the numbers regular season numbers.
Okaysey's awesome, but the eye test and knowing Luca and Lebron,
(25:21):
I'm like, I like the Lakers in that series. I'm
curious what you like down the stretch of games. We
know the Lakers are gonna have four awesome guys on
the court, right, and maybe the fifth is like whoever's hot,
Gabe Vincent one day, maybe Goodwin, whatever. I don't know
what Okac does down the stretch. Who are their five
core guys? Because they can't play the two bigs against
the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
You're not going two bigs. You're probably going Shay Door,
jdubb Chet.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
And then that fifth guy might be a rotating But
between is that enough shooting Son Wallace or Isaiah Joe,
Aaron Wiggan, something like Kenrich Will like Caruso, you spent
on some money's could be the other guy. I think
there could be some spacing concerns a little bit. But
but you know, Cruso is one of the best perimeter guys.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Is good.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I would assume it's probably Wallace, but but Wallace or Caruso. Yeah,
that's a good call.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
Yeah, for the Lakers, Like, I think their closing lineup
is going to be DFS, Ruy, Lebron, Austin and Luca.
That lineup has been crushing it on both sides, and
I just I don't know how you match up with
it because the way they're able to space you out
and they can pick and pop with Ruey or DFS
have the other guy in the corner, and they could
obviously run two or three man actions with Luca, Lebron
(26:29):
and Austin, it's like it's basically unguardable. And then defensively,
those lineups have been really really good, and you saw.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
It against AD. They took AD out of that.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
Game totally at thirteen points, so they're doubling and swarming
and like are they kind.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Of built like the Celtics a lot of length and wings.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
A little bit, I could see it.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
I mean, I think obviously Boston's got like half of
Team USA on their teams, so it's a little different,
but I think that's the team to me that like
is the toughest matchup for the Lakers because they can
switch and they have so much I'm athleticism, length and
defense that obviously, like you know, the the defending champs
for a reason, but that'd be a fun finals.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Certainly, all right, jovon Booja amazing stuff covering the game tonight.
I guess I will be the Lakers Rockets. Say hi
to him. He's a nice guy, walks around the concourse.
I've seen him out there. Great stuff coming up next
year on the show, My AFC playoff teams kind of
set the Internet on fire an hour ago. I'm getting
a lot of heat, folks. The chiefs are not making it.
That's next.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
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Speaker 3 (28:31):
Great stuff from Jovann Bouja. He like Alex Curry, will
be talking to Cooper Flag after the show. I didn't
get the invite people, but I'm out anyway, so I'll
miss your Cooper. You should ask him, Yeah, Cooper, what
do you know about Utah or would you rather be
in Utah or Chicago?
Speaker 6 (28:48):
I you know what, I think you just focus on
like being that number one overall pick and just being
excited about that. But no, I'm excited to say he's eighteen. Yeah,
Cooper Flag is eighteen. I just wanted to analys life's
about to change forever.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
So I'm excited. I'm excited to talk to Cooper Flag.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So during the break, after that great interview with I'm
hyping my own interview.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
That's bad.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I just like Jovan, he's good. So I get a
text from Eddie House, who was on the show this week.
The staff's like, what do you say. I'm like, I'm
not telling you. I'll reveal her on air. Here we go,
Eddie House, No way, you just said Austin Reeves is
better than Mark Price. Mark Price played defense, Austin Reeves
is a liability on the defensive end. I call bs.
Austin Reeves is a good defender, not great. But I'll
(29:31):
tell you this. Give me six seven Mark Price and
his length on defense over six to one Mark Price.
Austin Reeves better defender than Mark Price. I'm sorry, Eddie House.
I'll take Austin Reeves any day of the week. All right, Gosh,
it's a good way to end the show. Eddie House
texting me upset. He's a good dude, by the way,
So let's put up our AFC playoff teams hour. Sorry
(29:52):
Alex for lumping you in with that.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
No, my, do you put this?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Alex? Fine everywhere here? Seven let's hear you're seven in
the no time to prepare.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Let me hold it, let me let me pull it up.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, hold on, Bill's obviously Ravens. I'll give you those.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think everybody has Texans. So there's three layups.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I can't believe you have the Patriots in there.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'm blaming Coward for that one. They he loves them Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
You gotta Chiefs are division winners for me, like I
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I don't have the Chargers as division winners. I have
the Chiefs in there. I have the Bengals in there.
I think they're going to improve. Like that we were
seeing we're finally seeing a healthy Burrow and he had
like one of the most insane personal seasons. The team
just like couldn't get behind them. And they just signed
both their guys, so they're gonna be fine. Like, I
won't argue, but I'm gonna put I'm gonna put the
(30:44):
Chiefs as division winners and put the Chargers in the
Wildcard and take the Patriots out.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I don't know why you like everything except one. Yeah,
not bad, gosh, not bad.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I just I cannot.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Believe you don't have the Chiefs in there and you
put the Patriots in there.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Overrated, No excuse used me.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
I don't think anybody is going to agree with you
on that one.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Oh myhomes is going to prove me wrong. He always
does as he sho Super Bowl when the Eagles spanked.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Him, okay on the one game. One game, and you're
going to.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Discount the three Super Bowls that they've had since twenty nineteen,
being a dynasty, being the best quarterback coach duo in
the league during his time in the league.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
He is the best quarterback in the league. And he
just they had it off game.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Well, he wasn't characteristically last year, Josh Allen and Lemon.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
You don't have to be statistically. It has to be
what you're able to do in the moment and winning games,
which is when they've done Super Bowl could not deliver
in who else who else playing right now has won
three Super Bowls since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I just I live in the now. I live in
the I don't want to go back to the I've
good about it. I'm living in the wild. Oh gosh,
I love me some Chiefs bashing in all real talk,
smoking mirrors. Last year point differential was pooh pooh. I'm
just I'm keeping it real with you guys. They're gonna
have some bumpy moments this season for the Chiefs. It
(32:01):
would be okay if they regress. By the way, when
I was watching the Super Bowl and Cooper Dejane got
that interception, he started running it back, I'm standing up,
freaking out. It was joyous with the family, folks. It's
been a phenomenal week. Coward's back Monday, Alex, enjoy your weekend.
I will enjoy my weekend and next week off. Everybody'd
be safe out there. Go Lakers.
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