April 19, 2025 • 17 mins
WrestleMania 41 from Las Vegas is upon us, and so Daniel Cormier IS LIVE from WWE World to check-in with the best of the best in the sport. Wrestling superstar Gunther joins DC to talk about his matchup against Jey Uso, and why he expects to beat him for the fourth time in a row! Gunther also gets into it with some of the fans, and talks about never needing the approval of the fans. Plus, Gunther gets into his HUGE WEIGHT LOSS JOURNEY and why he decided to lose the weight when his career started to take off. And don't miss Gunther's message for Jey Uso and ALL his fans! #Volume #Herd
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's WrestleMania season, and you know the boy gets super
excited about anything WWE. So I'm checking in with some
of the wrestlers that they get ready for the show
of all shows. And today's episode is brought to you
by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. They're
in your corner with unlimited five G data that will
not slow you down. Guys, So you know, if you
(00:34):
watch anything I've done, any of my fights, you know
how much of a WWE fan I am. So this
to me is like a dream come true. You know,
I did this in Los Angeles a couple of years ago.
I was on a side stage. I spoke to.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Omas, we took a photo.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It was like the most shared photo I've ever had
my entire life, because you have a giant and then
you have me, who doesn't look like I could fight anyone,
but clearly I can't fight to now on the main stage,
and not only on the main stage, but we are
gonna be joined by two of the biggest stars in
wrestling today, World Champions Legends, Guys that I'm a massive
(01:14):
fan of. Uh And my first guess is a guy
that I really do enjoy a guy that I think
he's my favorite wrestler. He's the current world champion, he
is a former nxt UK champion, the longest reigning intercontinental champion.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Of all time.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You know what's crazy about this dude? He has like
one title reign in every belt because he never loses.
And that's why I love him so much. Guys, give
it up for my first guests the ring, Ga Nadal Gunter,
(02:10):
that is a beautiful belt champion. Thank you for joining me.
I appreciate you giving me some time. Thank you for
having me though. You know when I when I started
watching wrestling again and I started watching you and noticing
you for the first time. You stood out right away
because of the physical the physical ability you beat people up.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
For a guy like me that likes watching people get
beat up and that likes to beat people up, you
are a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
How do you develop that style inside the ring?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I mean, first of all, thank you for saying that.
Coming from you, that means something whatever, Dave thing. I
don't pay too much attention to, to be honest, but
that coming from you means a lot. I always liked
I was a big fan of the Japanese wrestlings back
then the you're ape in wrestlers and that style was
way more physical, sports based and yeah, intense, and I
(03:07):
just thought it makes sense for a buddy constitution over time,
and that's what I was stuck with.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know, I watched you in Los Angeles with Drew
McIntyre and Shamus and by the end of that match,
you guys were all battered and bruised. When you're done
with a match like that and you go back to
the back, what's that feeling, right, knowing that you laid
it all out on the line and put on one
of the greatest matches of the entire year.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Well, and that by when you feel alive afterwards, because
in our careers it's those ten to twenty minutes in
the ring. That's what you all do it for, at
least from my perspective, Like everything around it, to travel,
the training, everything, all the hardships around it, they're really
payoff when I can be in there for twenty minutes
(03:51):
or something and leave it all in the ring.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Hey gutter, So you won the World Championship, are the
king of the ring and the out us right, all
the fans we said you deserve it, and you so
disrespect you so disrespectfully told us it doesn't matter what
we think.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Why do you dislike that? We appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Man? Are you're turning with me here? I excluded you.
It was just talking about that.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I'm one of these guys.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
No, it's all right. I appreciate it a little bit.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Hey, this journey though, Gunter, when I was introducing you
are when I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
My background into you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You're the longest rainy Intercontinental champion of all time when
you held the belt in the next team, one of
the longest reigns of all time.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Now as the champion, the world champion, another long.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Ragin, how important is it for you to not only
become champ, but to hold on to these titles?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Have these long sustained rains And I'm gonna tell you
a story and really stand the top of the sport
as you have.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I think I always thought about it like I wanted
to be a great champion in professional wrestling. I want
to represent that, and I always liked ideas. I don't know,
there's all those crazy records like five time Intercontinental champion,
ten times world champion, all of that I wrought a
winter titler once, hold it for a very long time,
(05:19):
leave my mark, and then move on to the next thing.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
You know, that's a great answer, But you really don't
care that they're clapping.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
See that's what I'm getting from that.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
See what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I'm the bully one here, bully.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Because they u He said, you're gonna lose your belt
this weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, sure, Gunter.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I saw some pictures of you from the past, and
you were a big boy. You kind of look like
me in retirement, right, like not me when I was fighting.
You looked like me today. How important was it for
you to change yourself physically and how important or how
big of a how much.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Can you attribute that weight loss and.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You physically change into how you're perceived in the WWE today?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, well, first of all, for my health.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It was very important to change it up at some
point overall over the years I was I was never
that big when I was younger. It was always doing
sports and then I stopped playing football and switched to
wrestling and like gain a lot of weight. And then
in wrestling, I always liked those guys like Vader and
Stan Hansen. Yeah, a lot of the Japanese heavyweights were
like bulky guys, and I kinda I don't know. I
(06:43):
guess I romanticized it a bit where like compared myself
to that. I always like the idea of like a
proper heavyweight wrestler looks like the next door's butcher or
something like that, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
What I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But it came to a point when the career progressed
and I knew, Okay, I'm gonna be on TELEVI every
week now, I had to update that to, yeah, maximize
this whole thing to the full extent. And that was
the decision I made. And it was a good experience
doing that. It takes a lot of as you know,
like a diet, like going down and down and down,
takes so much discipline and it ruins your social life
(07:18):
and everything around it. And it was good to yeah,
test myself with that and have that experience, and yeah,
it helped me to find a good balance.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It feel good with the clothes.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Like I gotta tell you, when I was making two five,
my pants size was going down like three different sizes, yeah,
like a thirty eight to like a thirty four to
thirty two and I'm looking the I sit in the
mirror saying.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I look good.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah, oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You know, do you believe there's been a change in
ww Yeah, this new regime.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
They love you obviously, they you keep winning belts. Do
you think you would have had that success with the
prior regime?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
H I don't think so. No, I'm not to that
extend or in that way.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I think I was always like a triple ah guy,
Like there was the guy I dealt with most of
my career in w and I had a shorter stint
under the old regime. But yeah, ever since then, I think,
especially as European guys, we gotta thank Hunter for a
lot of things because he was the one that opened
w WWE to the world outside of that universe, to
(08:29):
wrestling abroad, wrestling on independence, and that just opened Yeah,
that just gave us so many possibilities to step into.
There was a crucial moment for me in my career,
and there was definitely a little bit be at the
right time at like, be at the right place at
the right time.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But yeah, I'm glad that things are hardy are right
now and yeah, dumb thing we're just getting started with everything.
We're red hot now, it's taking up, taking off everywhere,
and we're just getting started.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You told me in the back that it's been twenty
years since you started wrestling.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yes, WrestleMania Weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I'm going through the airport and the amount of people
that are here to watch you guys perform, to take
part in what is the biggest weekend in wrestling. What
does it mean to you, Gunter to have that right
to be able to be not only on the card
of all cards, but to be one of the headliners,
to be one of the show starters and have the
(09:27):
opportunity to steal the show. Does that still resonate with
you as it did the first time you got the
call that you were gonna wrestle on this card.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I feel like, right now what it really feels like.
And I think there was after that match Ha just
talked about before with Seamus and Drew. It was like
a confirmation for myself.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Like I belong here.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, like I belong here and I can run things here,
and yeah, I'm enjoying it right now.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
That's like, that's what I work for my whole life.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And I'm not gonna I'm trying to load pressure on myself.
I'm just here to enjoy it. And yeah, on Saturday,
when I get out there with jay Uzu, I'm gonna
enjoy kicking his ass for twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So so gunter to get to that right, to get
to the matchup. I had Jay Usso on my podcast
a while back, and he was excited about winning the
Royal Rumble.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
He was excited about the idea that he become.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
World champion for the first time, and he had a
sight set solely on you to become the world champion.
The bill to this match has been fantastic. You assaulted
his brother, You assaulted his brother in a way, or you.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Should have been arrested.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You should have been arrested for what you did to
poor Jimmy Usso. He's a good guy.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
That's why we all sign a wave up front.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's how has that been building to this match and
knowing that all these people they want to get their hands,
they want to dance, they want to say ye. I mean,
how does it feel every time you walk out there
you get the booze and Jay Husso gets the cheers
and the lull.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I mean, one thing I claim for myself. Nobody pisses
on a parade like I do. I think I'm the
best at that. And yeah, I mean. The thing is,
with Jay, it's hard to not like him. I get that,
and he's been busting his ass and his company since
his whole career. He's always been with WBE, so it's
(11:33):
not his fault that he's a little bit delusional. I
went to wrestling university all around the world. I've been
for every scenario. I've been all around the globe before
I came to WBE, So I don't blame Jane for
thinking the way he thinks. But on Saturday, all make
him understand. I make him feeling my words they didn't work.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Up front going through. You have wrestled Jay Usso before.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Three times, three times, beat him three times, beating him three.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Times, But he's more motivated today than he has ever been.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
When you stand in that ring with him, now, can.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
You see that different level of intensity than you saw before?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I gotta admit I can.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And that was the whole thing the last week's I
always knew Jay had it in him because we saw
it from him before, but I was surprised that it
actually comes out of him in this scenario now, because
there's more pressure on him right now because of all
those people having expectations that ever before. That's something I
don't deal with. Like I said before, I do not
(12:38):
care what they think, what they say.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I'm doing all of this solely for myself.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So mentally I'm in a way better state than he is.
But he showed me the different side in the last weeks,
and I'm happy. I'm happy I can take on the
best version of jay Uso on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, Gunter, you always had imperium before. Do you like
standing alone now where you're out there by yourself or
do you kind of miss having.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
The whole group?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Both is nice.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I've been with a group for a long time, but
then I've been alone for a while, and then what's
with a group again?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
And now I'm on myself again.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
So both has his ups and downs, But I think
I'm good where I'm right now.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, Okay, So I got a question. This is me
the fan right the gut the fan? Yo, what's your finisher?
Is there a finisher?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is it the sleeper or is it the power Bom'm like,
what is your while you have no finisher. I think that,
to me is probably one of the best things about you. Right,
you do that big splash off the top rope, which
is poetry in motion. A big man jumping off the
rope like that, amazing, the power bound, the sleeper.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
What's your finishing move man?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, I don't have one.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Whatever whatever ends the match and on that day and
that situation, what makes the most sense.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
That's what I'm gonna do. And I'm I might need
to slow down on the big splash.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I gotta say when it was heavier, it was easier
on myself, I gotta be honest. But yeah, overall, what
just what makes sense in this situation. And I've never
been a big fan of that. Just have one specific
finishing mode.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I saw in general my career, whatever everybody else did
thing a, I try not to do it.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
It's different.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's awesome, man.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's part of the reason that I enjoy your fighting
style so tremendously.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Before you get to the Master this weekend, tell these
fans what you're gonna do to jay Uso or give
jay Uso a message cameras back there, tell jay Uso
what he can look forward to this weekend, and let
these fans know this.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Gentleman right here, he.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Keeps yelling, you gonna lose your belty right there with
that glass him right there. Give him that message about
how disappointed he's gonna be come Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Because I got you, gunter.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You better sit your ass down right there before I
come down, I'm gonna beat your ass.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Okay, you understand, get it out, Yeah, sit.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Your ass down. Nobody cares what you got to say.
Come on, you have no message for them. No, my words,
they don't land with those people. Yes, they can't grasp it.
They can't digest the four letter work. They're pretty good
at that, but everything over a sentence, it's pretty hard
to digest for them.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
So everything's said and done.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well, you are one of the greatest wrestlers in the world, man,
Thank you for having me. ESPN's Male Wrestle of the
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The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's WrestleMania season, and you know the boy gets super
excited about anything WWE. So I'm checking in with some
of the wrestlers that they get ready for the show
of all shows. And today's episode is brought to you
by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. They're
in your corner with unlimited five G data that will
not slow you down. Guys, So you know, if you
(00:34):
watch anything I've done, any of my fights, you know
how much of a WWE fan I am. So this
to me is like a dream come true. You know,
I did this in Los Angeles a couple of years ago.
I was on a side stage. I spoke to.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Omas, we took a photo.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It was like the most shared photo I've ever had
my entire life, because you have a giant and then
you have me, who doesn't look like I could fight anyone,
but clearly I can't fight to now on the main stage,
and not only on the main stage, but we are
gonna be joined by two of the biggest stars in
wrestling today, World Champions Legends, Guys that I'm a massive
(01:14):
fan of. Uh And my first guess is a guy
that I really do enjoy a guy that I think
he's my favorite wrestler. He's the current world champion, he
is a former nxt UK champion, the longest reigning intercontinental champion.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Of all time.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You know what's crazy about this dude? He has like
one title reign in every belt because he never loses.
And that's why I love him so much. Guys, give
it up for my first guests the ring, Ga Nadal Gunter,
(02:10):
that is a beautiful belt champion. Thank you for joining me.
I appreciate you giving me some time. Thank you for
having me though. You know when I when I started
watching wrestling again and I started watching you and noticing
you for the first time. You stood out right away
because of the physical the physical ability you beat people up.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
For a guy like me that likes watching people get
beat up and that likes to beat people up, you
are a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
How do you develop that style inside the ring?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I mean, first of all, thank you for saying that.
Coming from you, that means something whatever, Dave thing. I
don't pay too much attention to, to be honest, but
that coming from you means a lot. I always liked
I was a big fan of the Japanese wrestlings back
then the you're ape in wrestlers and that style was
way more physical, sports based and yeah, intense, and I
(03:07):
just thought it makes sense for a buddy constitution over time,
and that's what I was stuck with.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know, I watched you in Los Angeles with Drew
McIntyre and Shamus and by the end of that match,
you guys were all battered and bruised. When you're done
with a match like that and you go back to
the back, what's that feeling, right, knowing that you laid
it all out on the line and put on one
of the greatest matches of the entire year.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Well, and that by when you feel alive afterwards, because
in our careers it's those ten to twenty minutes in
the ring. That's what you all do it for, at
least from my perspective, Like everything around it, to travel,
the training, everything, all the hardships around it, they're really
payoff when I can be in there for twenty minutes
(03:51):
or something and leave it all in the ring.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Hey gutter, So you won the World Championship, are the
king of the ring and the out us right, all
the fans we said you deserve it, and you so
disrespect you so disrespectfully told us it doesn't matter what
we think.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Why do you dislike that? We appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Man? Are you're turning with me here? I excluded you.
It was just talking about that.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I'm one of these guys.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
No, it's all right. I appreciate it a little bit.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Hey, this journey though, Gunter, when I was introducing you
are when I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
My background into you.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You're the longest rainy Intercontinental champion of all time when
you held the belt in the next team, one of
the longest reigns of all time.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Now as the champion, the world champion, another long.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Ragin, how important is it for you to not only
become champ, but to hold on to these titles?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Have these long sustained rains And I'm gonna tell you
a story and really stand the top of the sport
as you have.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I think I always thought about it like I wanted
to be a great champion in professional wrestling. I want
to represent that, and I always liked ideas. I don't know,
there's all those crazy records like five time Intercontinental champion,
ten times world champion, all of that I wrought a
winter titler once, hold it for a very long time,
(05:19):
leave my mark, and then move on to the next thing.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
You know, that's a great answer, But you really don't
care that they're clapping.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
See that's what I'm getting from that.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
See what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I'm the bully one here, bully.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Because they u He said, you're gonna lose your belt
this weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, sure, Gunter.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I saw some pictures of you from the past, and
you were a big boy. You kind of look like
me in retirement, right, like not me when I was fighting.
You looked like me today. How important was it for
you to change yourself physically and how important or how
big of a how much.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Can you attribute that weight loss and.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You physically change into how you're perceived in the WWE today?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, well, first of all, for my health.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It was very important to change it up at some
point overall over the years I was I was never
that big when I was younger. It was always doing
sports and then I stopped playing football and switched to
wrestling and like gain a lot of weight. And then
in wrestling, I always liked those guys like Vader and
Stan Hansen. Yeah, a lot of the Japanese heavyweights were
like bulky guys, and I kinda I don't know. I
(06:43):
guess I romanticized it a bit where like compared myself
to that. I always like the idea of like a
proper heavyweight wrestler looks like the next door's butcher or
something like that, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
What I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But it came to a point when the career progressed
and I knew, Okay, I'm gonna be on TELEVI every
week now, I had to update that to, yeah, maximize
this whole thing to the full extent. And that was
the decision I made. And it was a good experience
doing that. It takes a lot of as you know,
like a diet, like going down and down and down,
takes so much discipline and it ruins your social life
(07:18):
and everything around it. And it was good to yeah,
test myself with that and have that experience, and yeah,
it helped me to find a good balance.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It feel good with the clothes.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Like I gotta tell you, when I was making two five,
my pants size was going down like three different sizes, yeah,
like a thirty eight to like a thirty four to
thirty two and I'm looking the I sit in the
mirror saying.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I look good.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah, oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You know, do you believe there's been a change in
ww Yeah, this new regime.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
They love you obviously, they you keep winning belts. Do
you think you would have had that success with the
prior regime?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
H I don't think so. No, I'm not to that
extend or in that way.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I think I was always like a triple ah guy,
Like there was the guy I dealt with most of
my career in w and I had a shorter stint
under the old regime. But yeah, ever since then, I think,
especially as European guys, we gotta thank Hunter for a
lot of things because he was the one that opened
w WWE to the world outside of that universe, to
(08:29):
wrestling abroad, wrestling on independence, and that just opened Yeah,
that just gave us so many possibilities to step into.
There was a crucial moment for me in my career,
and there was definitely a little bit be at the
right time at like, be at the right place at
the right time.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But yeah, I'm glad that things are hardy are right
now and yeah, dumb thing we're just getting started with everything.
We're red hot now, it's taking up, taking off everywhere,
and we're just getting started.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You told me in the back that it's been twenty
years since you started wrestling.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yes, WrestleMania Weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I'm going through the airport and the amount of people
that are here to watch you guys perform, to take
part in what is the biggest weekend in wrestling. What
does it mean to you, Gunter to have that right
to be able to be not only on the card
of all cards, but to be one of the headliners,
to be one of the show starters and have the
(09:27):
opportunity to steal the show. Does that still resonate with
you as it did the first time you got the
call that you were gonna wrestle on this card.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I feel like, right now what it really feels like.
And I think there was after that match Ha just
talked about before with Seamus and Drew. It was like
a confirmation for myself.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Like I belong here.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, like I belong here and I can run things here,
and yeah, I'm enjoying it right now.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
That's like, that's what I work for my whole life.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And I'm not gonna I'm trying to load pressure on myself.
I'm just here to enjoy it. And yeah, on Saturday,
when I get out there with jay Uzu, I'm gonna
enjoy kicking his ass for twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So so gunter to get to that right, to get
to the matchup. I had Jay Usso on my podcast
a while back, and he was excited about winning the
Royal Rumble.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
He was excited about the idea that he become.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
World champion for the first time, and he had a
sight set solely on you to become the world champion.
The bill to this match has been fantastic. You assaulted
his brother, You assaulted his brother in a way, or you.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Should have been arrested.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You should have been arrested for what you did to
poor Jimmy Usso. He's a good guy.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
That's why we all sign a wave up front.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's how has that been building to this match and
knowing that all these people they want to get their hands,
they want to dance, they want to say ye. I mean,
how does it feel every time you walk out there
you get the booze and Jay Husso gets the cheers
and the lull.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I mean, one thing I claim for myself. Nobody pisses
on a parade like I do. I think I'm the
best at that. And yeah, I mean. The thing is,
with Jay, it's hard to not like him. I get that,
and he's been busting his ass and his company since
his whole career. He's always been with WBE, so it's
(11:33):
not his fault that he's a little bit delusional. I
went to wrestling university all around the world. I've been
for every scenario. I've been all around the globe before
I came to WBE, So I don't blame Jane for
thinking the way he thinks. But on Saturday, all make
him understand. I make him feeling my words they didn't work.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Up front going through. You have wrestled Jay Usso before.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Three times, three times, beat him three times, beating him three.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Times, But he's more motivated today than he has ever been.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
When you stand in that ring with him, now, can.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
You see that different level of intensity than you saw before?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I gotta admit I can.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And that was the whole thing the last week's I
always knew Jay had it in him because we saw
it from him before, but I was surprised that it
actually comes out of him in this scenario now, because
there's more pressure on him right now because of all
those people having expectations that ever before. That's something I
don't deal with. Like I said before, I do not
(12:38):
care what they think, what they say.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I'm doing all of this solely for myself.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So mentally I'm in a way better state than he is.
But he showed me the different side in the last weeks,
and I'm happy. I'm happy I can take on the
best version of jay Uso on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, Gunter, you always had imperium before. Do you like
standing alone now where you're out there by yourself or
do you kind of miss having.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
The whole group?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Both is nice.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I've been with a group for a long time, but
then I've been alone for a while, and then what's
with a group again?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
And now I'm on myself again.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
So both has his ups and downs, But I think
I'm good where I'm right now.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, Okay, So I got a question. This is me
the fan right the gut the fan? Yo, what's your finisher?
Is there a finisher?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is it the sleeper or is it the power Bom'm like,
what is your while you have no finisher. I think that,
to me is probably one of the best things about you. Right,
you do that big splash off the top rope, which
is poetry in motion. A big man jumping off the
rope like that, amazing, the power bound, the sleeper.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
What's your finishing move man?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, I don't have one.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Whatever whatever ends the match and on that day and
that situation, what makes the most sense.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
That's what I'm gonna do. And I'm I might need
to slow down on the big splash.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I gotta say when it was heavier, it was easier
on myself, I gotta be honest. But yeah, overall, what
just what makes sense in this situation. And I've never
been a big fan of that. Just have one specific
finishing mode.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I saw in general my career, whatever everybody else did
thing a, I try not to do it.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
It's different.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's awesome, man.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's part of the reason that I enjoy your fighting
style so tremendously.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Before you get to the Master this weekend, tell these
fans what you're gonna do to jay Uso or give
jay Uso a message cameras back there, tell jay Uso
what he can look forward to this weekend, and let
these fans know this.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Gentleman right here, he.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Keeps yelling, you gonna lose your belty right there with
that glass him right there. Give him that message about
how disappointed he's gonna be come Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Because I got you, gunter.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
You better sit your ass down right there before I
come down, I'm gonna beat your ass.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Okay, you understand, get it out, Yeah, sit.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Your ass down. Nobody cares what you got to say.
Come on, you have no message for them. No, my words,
they don't land with those people. Yes, they can't grasp it.
They can't digest the four letter work. They're pretty good
at that, but everything over a sentence, it's pretty hard
to digest for them.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
So everything's said and done.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well, you are one of the greatest wrestlers in the world, man,
Thank you for having me. ESPN's Male Wrestle of the
Year twenty twenty three, twenty four. Give it up for
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