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May 4, 2025 • 13 mins

Wade dives into the embarrassment that was Canelo vs. Scull, and discusses the aftermath of the fight in which we saw Bud Crawford step into the Ring to go face to face with Canelo. #Herd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Folks, welcome back to the Ring Magazine presents the Way
to Concept. I am once again in a different location.
The job never stops. I'm down here at most valuable prospects.
You guys know, I'm a commentator's commentator. I'm in Orlando, Florida.
But as you know, the boxing world keeps on turning,
and The Ring Magazine had another card tonight in Riad,

(00:24):
Saudi Arabia. I went to Florida, AG and all of
the big wigs went to Saudi Arabia and put on
Canelo Alvarez versus William Skull. And right now I'm pretty tired.
And it could be because I've been flying all day.
It's one seventeen am local time. Or it could be
because Canelo Alvarez and William Skull quite frankly put on
a snoozefest in said main event of the evening. It

(00:45):
has been a very frustrating couple of days of boxing,
and I think we need to talk about why and
also why. Hopefully what this was leading up to and
now is official, is why this won't continue to be
a problem. But I mean the breakdown, let's go. This
was another one of these fights where you know, Canelo
brought the action, or at least brought the front foot

(01:07):
aggressiveness to this fight, and William Skull reserved himself to
boxing off the back foot and moving laterally. Now we
saw this yesterday or I guess yeah, two days ago.
Now by the time you're seeing this video, Devin Haney
did a lot of this to Jose Ramirez. Difference was
Canelo was able to land on William Skull and Jose
Ramirez just wasn't able to land on Devin Haney.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
And honestly he had.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Jose Ramirez landed as much as Canelo did in this fight,
and again it wasn't a lot over this Canelo Williams
Skull fight, Devin Haney, Jose Ramirez, and Ryan Garcia Roly Romero.
They are I think three of the top five least
output punch fights in the history of twelve round boxing.
I could be wrong about that stat but someone is
going to show me that it's not been great like

(01:51):
it's been very low output, very methodical boxing because of
again a stylistic matchup, an idea or an approach to
the fight as to I'm just going to go in
here and box slick or try to survive or be
there to try to win a boxing match, not try
to win a fight. We talked about that in my
last video, and that's kind of.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
What this looked like.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
William Skull again, a lot of lateral movement, bigger guy too,
a big, strong looking guy for one hundred and sixty
eight pounds that I'm just shocked he didn't. He didn't
want to use more of his physical frame to try
to put himself in positions to out muscle Canelo or
work his way in the clinch. And he just maybe
wasn't confident there because Canelo is a great inside fight,
or you don't want to put yourself in positions to

(02:34):
not make it to the later parts of the fight.
But it was simple Skull was willing to move laterally
jab not keep his feet set. Occasionally he would throw
counter punches, and again when he did throw counter punches,
he had some success, and it just was like, why
not go back and do that again. You're having some success,
do it again. But it was just a lack of activity.

(02:54):
And it wasn't just from Williams Skull, but on the
other side, Canelo was not able to cut him off
as much as he wanted to whereas Canelo is usually
fantastic at cutting off of the ring, this was not
a great Canelo performance, Like, yeah, he walked forward, Yes
he had great punches to the body when he let
them loose, but it was one at a time as well.
This was a left hook to the body in Skull

(03:15):
would get out of the corner, or it was a
right hook to the body and Skull would slide away
on the ropes, or Canelo would just be trying to
corral Skull and not able to do it because again
he just wasn't able to cut the ring off. Skull
had good lateral movement, but that is not what boxing is,
and the same point, it kind of is what boxing is.
Like it it's not what I like when I watch boxing.

(03:35):
It's not what I think people that want to watch
a fight like watching. And yeah, sure, by the letter
of the law, it is a sport of hitting and
not being hit. But when you are not attempting to hit,
or when you're not attempting to create damage and putting
more of a preference on not being hit, then you
get these kind of fights where on technicality, if you
don't have someone as good as Canelo, is that even

(03:56):
on one of his bad days that he still understands.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
He needs to do something.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Then you're gonna have fights go the way of a
Devon Haney or sometimes the way of a William Skull
where you're having guys, you know, again, try to point
fight and win on a style that you can't convince
me anyone that even likes the sport likes watching for
twelve rounds. It's just not a fun style to watch.
But again, like I said, with Devin Haney, he is
who we thought he was, or if you knew anything

(04:23):
about William skulls kind of how he fights.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
So it is what it is. I'm glad we just
got it out of the way.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
But again you're seeing three of these fights that are
just stinkers in the last two days. And again I
just go back to the UK fights, and I go
back to that main event and the difference in a
Connor Ben and Chris Hubank Junior fight, where yes, that
style of fighting is not one that leads to a
lot of longevity in the sport. And right, it's very

(04:49):
easy for me to sit here and say that's the
kind of fight I want as a fan, I want
to watch that kind of fighting where fighters are actually fighting,
where they are trying to get their opponent out of there,
where they're trying to create damage, when they're trying to
win a fight more than they're trying to win a
boxing match based on a points system. But at the
same time, fighters want to be around for a long time.
A style that allows you to do that is one

(05:09):
that you know Devin Haney employees, or a William Skull employees,
or even in this fight for Canelo, because there was
no damage coming back at him, a style he's employed
for the last however many fights he's had. And again
I'm not saying it's Canelo like, oh, he's on the
back foot letting people come to him, but he has
taken a bit off the gas when it comes to
finishing opponents or it comes to being a combination puncher

(05:32):
or a guy that plants his feet and really throws
his hands around. Again, you've seen parts of that from Canelo.
You've seen bits and pieces of that, but not in
the way where he would systematically break you down and
then eventually he would look for that fit. That hasn't
been the same Canelo since maybe the Caleb Plant fight. Honestly,
so yeah, I mean, this was again just a not
great fight for Canelo and definitely not a great fight

(05:55):
for William Skull. But the entirety of the fight is
Canelo walking Skull down and and you know, trying to
land potshots here and there, Skull landing a jab, maybe
a double jazz in a lot of lateral movement. Quite
I don't even care to try to go break down
the x's and o's of this other than to say
there were moments where I thought Canelo got caught with
things he shouldn't have been caught with. I didn't see

(06:16):
a lot of volume from Canelo. I didn't see a
lot of outputs. So the only reason I'm bringing in
this up is because I'm trying to give you an
idea as to what I may see next. Because when
Canelo eventually won this thing and it wasn't a close
fight to me, I know that there are gonna be
people to say, well it one judge had at fifteen
thirteen into that I'm gonna say again, Okay, sure call

(06:39):
out a close fight if you want. I didn't see
Williams Skull wanting to fight.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I didn't see it. I didn't see him.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Wanting to do anything anywhere close to damaging to Canelo,
where I saw Canelo at least attempting to damage William
Skull and having a power punch that landed that looked
like an actual power punt. But I'm giving you these
details because I look toward Canelo's next fight. As he
wins this, he becomes undisputed for the second time, which
is an accolade that again people will look back at
and go, wow, Canelo was two times undisputed, and it

(07:06):
should mean something, especially in the super middleweight division where
he's the first four belt undisputed champion.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
But did we need this fight?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I know why we need it because as the fight ended,
Canelo's in the ring and here comes Terrence Crawford.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
That's right, Bud Crawford steps into the ring. A fight
that I am down to watch?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Is it? David Benavidez, Canelo knows, is it? Bud Crawford
and Jerom Boots in his note, I want to see
those two fights separately.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
More.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, problem, And just if we're gonna be honest about
this whole thing, watching Canelo and William's Skull fight, I
would rather have seen Canelo fight Jake.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Paul, I'm just gonna be honest.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I would have been more entertaining to me. And I
told you guys this when it was rumored, and everybody
called me the clown. But anyway, we get a fight
that I think most of us will say, you know what,
I want to see that, and I do. I am
down to see Canelo and Bud.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Crawford for a couple of reasons.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Number One, as much as I previously thought the size
would be a big fact, I'm looking at them standing
face to face in this face off in Saudi Arabia
and I'm going, oh shit, Bud's not the small guy
in there. That's Canelo. And for the people that go, yeah, Wade,
well that's just the hype.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Spoiler alert.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I have an interview coming out this week with Bud
Crawford and I asked him about his weight in said
interview and I got to shake hands with the man
and I saw it close and personal that the weight
I don't think is much different, and Bud might weigh
more potentially than Canelo does just walking around Waight. So
this narrative that Canelo is the bigger man, the stronger man,
I'm not so sure about at least not right now.
So there are some variables here, and then I talk

(08:32):
about the fight. You know, as much as this was
not a great fight, there are moments where William Skull,
as a counterpuncher, was able to land on Canelo and
it didn't do anything. It didn't hurt him, didn't really
get Canelo's respect at all because there wasn't a ton
of power behind it. Skull wouldn't plant his feet and
sit down on anything, but Terrence Crawford will. And yes,
I remember the Madrama fight and that one was not
a great matchup for Terrence either. But when I look

(08:54):
at Canelo now and I look at how he is
reserved to fighting, how he's reserved himself to fight, I
see a guy that does have some open Does that
mean Terrence Crawford's just up and beats him. No, I'm
not going that far. As matter of fact, I don't
really know how to look at that fight yet. But
it's going down September nineteenth, Allegiance Stadium, Las Vegas, and
I'm pumped for Why because it's a fight that matters

(09:16):
to me, not because the belts are on the line,
and I know the belts are a big thing Ring Magazine,
belt lineal belt, they got a brand new one. All
the major bodies, I get all that, but it's never
been about the belts. To me, it's about the best,
fighting the best.

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Speaker 1 (09:49):
And again, David Benavitez, I would love that, Boots, Ennis
and Crawford, I would love that. But at least this
is a version of the best fighting the best.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
And that's all.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
As boxing fans, as combat sports fans, all I think
we want is the best fighting the best, not the
sanctioning body's best fighting this sanctioning body's best.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Because it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Did anyone consider William Skull a top one point sixty
eight pounder before the IBF gave him a belt? And
there's too many instances of that in my opinion. So
in a two days full of boxing like man, we
have dev and Haney's skate by Ryan Garcia completely disappoint
look like a ghost and lose Oli Romero step up

(10:28):
to the play and do what he was supposed to do.
Shout out to him, tiafi Mo Lopez look like a
guy that wants to go out and compete, wants to
go out and win, wants to go out and create
some legacy for himself. Canello doing what he has to do.
I guess I want to see someone in the sport
of boxing create legacy. I want to see someone approach
a fight like.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Chris Hubang Junior did.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I want to see someone approach a fight like Connor
ben did, like Terrence Bud Crawford does, like Joseph Parker,
like Alexander Ussi, like Daniel Duboi, like Anthony Joshua. For
Christ's sake, Yeah, Okay, it doesn't go their way all
the time, but I don't write people off for that.
I'm I am excited to see the next Anthony Joshua fight.
When loser draw couldn't give a foot. When you just
go in to either survive or out point a boxing match,

(11:09):
I'm telling you now, not only most of the time
will you end up losing the fight, but you end
up losing the fan base. You end up losing what
makes boxing great it's an entertainment sport because fighters go
in and lay it all on the line. Like fighters
don't have to do that for me. I'm not like
going put yourself out there for me, but do it
for you. Do it for these opportunities that you're seeing

(11:30):
right now. Boxing right now is on a hot streak
when it comes to the events, the matchmaking, the things
that going into a fight, The hype going into a
fight is unmatched. But it is on our fighters to
then go and give the same level of I don't know,
want to that hype to then create these historic moments
again like we got a week ago, and like we

(11:52):
didn't get yesterday and today September nineteen, Canello takes on
Bud Crawford. I'm expecting that to be a barn burner.
And I don't want to be someone that over high.
I don't I don't want to be someone that just
builds and builds and builds this thing to it.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Being a complete stinker. And I don't think that's gonna
be the case.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
But I can't control that, is what I'm saying. I
guess because when you give me two pound four pound,
top five people in the same ring around the same weight.
It shouldn't be an over hype. All it really should
be is a delivery of what the fans are excited for,
which is a high level fight from two fighters that
want to win a fight, not just a sporting man.

(12:29):
I think there's a difference there that especially American boxing
right now, has a real, real struggle with. That's where
I Matt Canelo William Skull I would say it was
a lackluster fight, and I think Canelo would say the same.
I think anybody that watched that would say the same.
What happens next we get Canelo Bud Crawford. William Skull
I think wasted an opportunity for himself there, And I

(12:50):
don't mean that disrespectfully. I just think that's what happened.
And if you guys want to know more about what
happens with Canelo with Bud Crawford, tune in this week,
probably two days from now, and you'll hear me talk
to the man himself, Terrence Bud Crawford in a sit
down interview live for the Ring. Thanks for watching, and

(13:10):
uh yeah, as far as the boxing world is concerned,
we need fighters that want to fight. What am I
talking about? And when's that gonna happen? Hopefully soon, But
I don't have those answers, so I guess we'll find
out
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