May 13, 2025 • 42 mins
Colin wish Jayson Tatum a speedy recovery from the injury he suffered late vs the Knicks but points out Jalen Brunson and New York had the game firmly in control to take a commanding 3-1 lead.
Thoughts on the Warriors being down 3-1 against the Timberwolves
Colin also pushes back against the ridiculous narrative that the NBA Lottery is "fixed"
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Thanks for making us part of your day. Well, there
was perceived controversy to the New York Knicks. Looked like
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the real deal. The Warriors are done, NFL schedule release
coach k Mike Krzyzewski stops by Nick Wright in an
hour from now stop by wild night, but so many
different storylines, just a completely wild night in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, you could say that, Colin conspiracy theorists running wild.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's a great night date of your conspiracy games.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, several minutes before that awful injury to Jason Tatum,
several minutes before you could see it. I could see it.
I think people in Boston could see it. The Knicks
are gonna win this series. They're the better team, they're
better coached, they're more relentless. The home crowd clearly elevates
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this team. They're dominating the boards, Their bigs are playing better,
They're passing better, less standing around, better decision making more
points in the paint. Tibbs took the Celtics head coach
Joe Missoula to the cleaners. The Celtics in the second
half it was ISOs stand around basketball coach, pull some levers?
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Do something? What happened to Peyton Pritchard. Isn't he good?
Why he only played twenty minutes? It was just hard
to watch miss The coaches like he's got a checklist.
That's not That's not what NBA playoff basketball is about.
It's about pulling levers. You can see us Steve Kerr
do it though he's out manned. You really see a
Chris Finch doing it for years, Eric Spolstra. Joe Missoula
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has got like one club in his bag. When the
three point shots don't fall, he's out of luck. But
this series really has not been about the Celtics. It's
been about New York. If you didn't know better and
you just turned into that thing. Last night. You would
think the world champion New York Knicks were defending their title.
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Their ability to execute in crunch time, everybody's touching the ball,
the shot making from Kat Brunson, og bridges, the toughness
coming back multiple games, all of them from twenty points down.
Their leader, Jalen Brunson, Let's just be honest. He is
like the new Jerry West. He is mister Krott. Clutch
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played great before the injury. It was a great game.
But in terms of Clutch, is there any small player
in this league you trust more with the ball than
Jalen Brunson. I'm including staff. I know he's undersized, I
know he's a second rounder. I know he's not a
premier athlete, but man, he finds good shots. He has been,
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and I've said this for the last two years, the
best quarterback New York has. His decision making. You can
tell he's a smart guy that went to Villanova, dad
played in the league. Fearless player, totally trustworthy. But again,
it's not just that New York's winning, it's how they're winning.
New York is making Boston look fragmented, disorganized, poorly coached,
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confused and passive. If you'd never watch basketball and you
tune into that game, and I said, find the champion.
It looks like the Knicks. They've got a swagger, a confidence,
shot making and attitude, even before the Tatum injury, which
was obviously awful. And we're not going to speculate, but
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that looked really bad. We'll find out more today an
MRI New York. It's only three to one Nicks. It
felt like it was over five minutes before the Tatum injury.
The confidence, the shot making. I'm sitting here watching everybody
on that team depending on nobody. Great ball movement, Josh
Harten didn't need a bunch of points. He touch it,
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get it to somebody who's hot. Here's Brunson after.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I think it was a sense of urgency, desperation, just
knowing that we have a great opportunity. I we're playing
a really good team and I don't even think we're
playing our best basketball yet. Now we have a team
who's fairly new this year, and we still have a
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long way to go to be the best thing we
can be.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It is these windows close fast. I was talking to
a friend last night in the podcast and I said,
remember when the Seahawks were great and then they won
a Super Bowl, blew out Peyton Manning. They go to
another one, should win it. Russell Wilson throws a pick.
People thought Marshawn Lynch should have gotten the handoff. They
lose close to Brady and the Patriots. It screws with
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the culture in the locker room. There's doubt, there's finger pointing.
Never the same franchise good but never great again. And
with Boston the injury, five hundred million dollar bankroll, needed
new owners. They're getting old. What happened to poorzingis? I
don't know. I know the West has better teams, younger teams,
But when I watched the Knicks all year long, I've thought,
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you know, they've got to solve this. They need another
shot maker. I'm watching this series and I'm like, they
maybe they need to tweak a more dependable big but
I don't think they need much, at least to win
the East. All right, Let's talk Golden State. Golden State's
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in trouble, not just this year, but for the foreseeable future.
They brought in Jimmy Butler, as we talked about yesterday,
to squeeze every last bit of juice out of staphf
and Steve Kerr again excellent coach. But just like the
Lakers series where old Lebron, Luca and Austin Reeves kind
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of felt outmanned that Minnesota was getting more out of
more players. I'm watching the Timberwolves. That's the opposite of
the Celtics. That team doesn't have as this team doesn't
have as much talent. They're pulling every lever. I mean,
Julius Randall, he's a legitimate too. He was never a
good playoff guy. He's been excellent thirty one last night,
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fifty two percent from the field. His assist playmaking has
been fantastic. He's finally a dependable playoff guy. And Edwards
unrefined at times. Anybody noticed in the series he averages
seven points in the first half, twenty in the second.
Something the staff is doing and tweaking is changing the
way he plays in every game in the second half.
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It's remarkable. This is an odd, disparate roster full of
guys that shouldn't fit. Seven foot one Rudy Gobert who
can't really shoot, undrafted Naz Reid, who's a good athlete,
but what else, Julius Randall, who's a tweeter and an
emerging superstar who sometimes can't find his shot. It's just
a bunch of guys who we've never trusted in the playoffs,
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and now for the second straight year, we do. I
mean Lebron, Luca and Austin Reeves look completely outclassed. A
little bit of Steph Butler and Draymond similarly, it doesn't
feel like they're close. And this was the clear value
of coaching on display. You look at this Minnesota roster,
you could argue there's five or six better rosters. Cleveland's
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roster is better. I mean, oksees is obviously better. I
could argue Golden State when Steph is healthy healthy, is close.
But it's it's they have transformed all these different pieces
that shouldn't necessarily fit. Julius Randall didn't really fit early
in the season. Now at the end of the season,
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what a great, dependable number two. We've never said that
about Julius Randall. And it was a halftime speech by
a newly formed leader and Edwards that changed the game.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I told him we only got two wins.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I've never seen a series and two to one, so
I told him, you know, we got to get two
more wins, and right now we're playing like we already
got four wins, Like we're playing like they gonna lay down,
and knowing his team, knowing their head coach, they're never
going to lay down. So we had to figure it out, man,
because if we would have kept playing like that, we
would have.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Lost the night. So during the Dynasty, in the Great
Run by Steve Kerr, he has always been known the
Warriors have had some of the great quarters. Ever a
little tweak. Add this subtract that change that tweak that
the Warriors would take close games and come out with
an eighteen to four run and end it. That's what
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Minnesota has been doing. Especially Aunt Edwards, he is a
totally different player. First couple of games in this series,
shots didn't fall, couldn't get the close ones to go either.
He's been in this series transformed. That is, along with Aunt, Randall, Gobert,
nas Reed and the rest that is coaching on display.
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So Jmac the listen, I don't care what people say
about market size. The defending champs are in big trouble.
Minnesota is going to beat the most popular player, Steph
Curry Lakers have already been extinguished. Okase, he's a small market,
but nonetheless, Americans are absolutely sure the lottery was rigged.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well Collin, first of all, I don't know that the
Timberwolves are beating Steph Curry since he's barely played in
the series.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
They're beating a Warriors team which.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Doesn't look like, I mean anything resembling a playoff team
without Curry. It is amazing how far they've fallen without
a superstar.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, I mean it's it's I.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Think Boston will show up the next game without Tatum. Yes,
the Warriors can't do anything without Curry.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I mean he is their GPS. They're kind of
a directionless offense. He's the you know, we've said this,
there are certain players Lebron in his prime and Steph
Curry where they're kind of the ecosystem. Like the offense
goes through them. It looks different, the pacing is different,
the ball movements. That's why Kaminga is flourishing without staff,
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and then the offense totally changes with staff and he
just looks lost. So there are the good news for
Golden State is they're going to be able to move Kaminga,
who looks like a twenty game, twenty point a game
guy against a very good defensive team. So Kaminga his
value shot up. That's the only thing if you're the
war Warriors. Because I don't think Curry's gonna play he
acknowledged yesterday, is what's the point of risking it? Hamstring,
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as you've noted, is a rest injury. But Cominga's play
has created a market.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
It has.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I just the whole the way the draft went down
last night, the draft lottery, this Yannis stuff is going
absolutely volcanic. There's so many teams potentially involved, plus the
Tatum injury, Colin.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I had thought Boston could be a landing spot for you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Honest, I don't know if that's the case anymore. Due
to this injury to Tatum, He's gonna be out until
at least the All Star Break, possibly longer.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, next year stinks.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
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Speaker 1 (12:06):
Well, you're seeing it all over America. A lack of
trust in institutions. It could be the FBI, the CIA,
It could be the media. It could be the White House.
The default explanation in America in twenty twenty five when
you are ticked off or you can't explain something or
something doesn't go your way. It could be officiating. It
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could be an election. It could be the draft lottery.
Is it's rigged? Yeah, I've got video of Dallas's draft
room last night. Draft lottery room. You're gonna get twelve
guys to act like this for thirty seconds. There aren't
this many good actors in Hollywood that would do that.
Did they rig it for Creuddy Atlanta last year that
was also a playing team like the MAVs. Did they
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rig it for the New York Islanders like the Mavericks
had a very small percentage to win. Yeah, it's fixed.
It is fixed, fixed so that the worst tanking teams
don't win the lottery. Yes, it is fixed. Essentially, the
draft lottery now is like the local raffle at your
tavern where you got fifteen twenty people. It's a raffle,
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and sometimes the same guy wins two out of four raffles.
That's the way it is. By the way, when Zion
Williamson out of huge brand Duke an dunking machine was
available and the Knicks had the number one pick, yeah,
they fixed it so the Pelicans would get it, or
Atlanta last year. By the way, if you're going to
fix it, give Chicago or Philadelphia Cooper flag, not football
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crazy Dallas. The NBA has flattened the lottery are odds
essentially a raffle, a scratch off ticket. What's that mean?
No team with the worst record has won it since
they did it. The NBA changed the rules to create this.
Do you really think Wemby? They would say, let's say
where can we put Wemby? Let's put him in San Antonio. Yeah,
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the last time san Antonio had a dynasty, it killed
the TV ratings for a decade. You would not pick
san Antonio, believe me. In fact, some of you aren't
very good at math. The three teams with the best
odds to win. Last night, the odds were fourteen percent.
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That's a raffle. Those are the best odds. If you
add the three teams with the best odds together, it
still doesn't reach fifty percent. And what's happened the last
several years, the best odds has finished fifth and that
happened again last night. Utah, it is a raffle. They
flattened the odds. You would not have put Wemby in
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San Antonio. You would not have put Zion with the Pelicans.
The Pelicans have won this thing multiple times. Well, Lebron
left and they gave Cleveland Andrew Wiggins. It doesn't matter
if Lebron's coming or going. Nobody in any league office
is rooting for Cleveland to get the best players. So
it's just like, this is the way it worked. This
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is what the NBA wanted. The NBA won. What you're
seeing with the CBA. There are no more dynasties. That's
what Adams Olver wanted. And with this, I mean the
crazy thing San Antonio almost won, which is nuts, but
it should be noted they also draft and develop well.
So for the third year in a row, the team
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with the worst actual record did not win this thing.
And I think Cooper Flag in Dallas is great. I
think he's exactly what they needed. But he's also exactly
what every team in the league. The Lakers could use him.
The Knicks are a good team. They could use him.
He's Jason Tatum, That's what he is. He's Jason Tatum,
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and he's got twelve thirteen years potentially a prime coming
into the league. So just listen. I understand nobody trusts institutions.
I get it. It's happening all over the land right
It's FBI, CIA vaccines. Everybody on the internet's an expert.
That's fight. Doesn't bother me. I'm not going to try
to convince you otherwise. I'm just telling you what I see,
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which is the NBA. Adam Silver said, you know what,
I'm gonna be friendlier to the players than David Stern.
I'm gonna get out of the dynasty business, and we're
gonna flatten these odds because tanking is really bad. Tanking's
really bad for the NBA for a lot of reasons.
One of the reasons it's really bad is March. College
basketball is super competitive with the tournament and March is
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the time in the NBA that teams tank. So you
watch a college game with all that energy and then
turn in to an NBA game and it's like, you know,
you know, the Wizard's tanking, and Adam Silver's like, this
is a bad six week look for our league. So
they got seventy six billion dollars for eleven years. Okay, Now,
whether NBC can make that work financially, that's up to NBC.
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But if you want to believe tanking and go for it,
I'm just saying Wemby wouldn't have been picked in San
Antonio and Zion wouldn't go to the Pelicans because the
Knicks had the number one pick. By the way, Utah,
this is what keeps happening to odds only fourteen percent.
Once again, best odds get the fifth picked. That's how
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raffles work. I've had raffles. I've never won a raffle.
I've bought thirty tickets to a raffle with twelve people.
I've never won a raffle. I have been at raffles,
had one hundred bucks in my pocket and bought tickets
for the whole family and not want a raffle. I
don't think it's rigged. I think that's how scratch off
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games and raffles work. Jmack with the News No, no, no, turn.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Is.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I would be terrible going to the NBA Draft lottery.
I would be a terrible guy to put up there.
I've never won a thing on a scratch off. For
every time I buy a lottery ticket, I already buy
the jet skis. I already know I'm gonna win. I
don't think I've won a nickel. Ever.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I didn't see you as a raffle ticket guy. Every
guy they cover around, I'm like, no thanks.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Can I just ten seconds steal? So Lebron in twenty
ten ditches the Cabs for the heat.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Guess who gets.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
A year later the number one pick, the Cleveland Cavaliers,
and they draft Kyrie Irving is super star point guard
Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Let me stop you there, okay. Kyrie Irving played eight
games at Due, and you know there was talk within
the program he was talented, but small and couldn't stay healthy.
So the idea that he was going to become the
great ten year left right handed finisher. Kyrie Irving was
a speculative eight college games, bit of a tude, couldn't
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stay healthy. So this idea they oh, they knew, no, no, no,
people knew Carmelo and Lebron would be great, Wemby would
be great. There have been a lot Kyrie Irving, I
would argue his first three years in Cleveland, a lot
of people thought he was a bus So let's stop
with the Lebron left and we gave you the magic
Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So that was just one.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Then Anthony Davis forces his way out of New Orleans
to the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Get me there.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Guess who wins the draft lottery the next yet Pelicans
get Zion Williams.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay, So let's just guess you really think the NFL,
if the NFL or NBA would ever pick a Charlotte
or a New Orleans to win, while you would always
go New York, Philly, Boston, Chicage like last night, first
team off the board Chicago, And I'm like, uh, I
mean you would want? I mean Chicago leads the NBA
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in attendance virtually every year for twenty years, even since
Michael left, and they've had bad teams and many speculate
they're not well run. Would you not put Cooper Flag
from Duke to Chicago.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I was hoping for Chicago so euld get close.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
They were like.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Twelve with those two in the last fifteen years, compounded
by Luca forgetting going to the Lakers. Hey, Dallas, we'll
hook you up. We'll get you Cooper Flagg. And I
know that sounds crazy, but three in the last fit,
I'm not saying it's okay. Let's say let me ask
you this. Three in the last fifteen we live next
to Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I'm I'm I'm part of a group of people that
is writing a script. Not writing a script, but part
of a script. I'm on television, so I could probably
you could probably put me on something and I could
act a little bit. Show the video again of fifteen
men in Dallas acting in a room. Yeah. Now, now
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I've had a one or two of these moments in life.
You're gonna get fifteen dude, Look at these guys. These
guys are going not well.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I mean, the theory would be only one guy knew,
and that's Nico Harrison.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What was going on?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But again, I know people are here listening to this
and Jay MC, you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It is a weird coincidence.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
That teams lose a major star and then get handed
the number one.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Pick the next year.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But again, I'll I'll tell you a weird coincidence. I
went walking lost my car keys a month ago, told
this story. Yeah, I walked back and there was one
person sitting in the park. I walked up and said,
have you seen any keys? And she said, oh, yeah,
they're right here. I picked them up an hour ago.
That's a coincidence. It's not a coincidence. I mean I
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literally was like, what are the chances in La in
La the lady sitting at the park having my keys?
That's zany And that wasn't fixed either. That wasn't rigged either.
It's just the stuff happened.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
As someone who went to Japan. If that happened in Japan,
your key would have been sitting there. Nobody would have
picked it up because they don't do that.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Let's get to the news. The NFL announces the schedule tomorrow,
but some games are starting to leak. Boy Fox got
hooked up Colin Week sixteen, Saturday, December twentieth, we get
Eagles Commanders rematch to the NFC Championship and Packers bears
a tremendous rise playing for a.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Wild card spot. That Packer Bear game is gonna be lit. Oh,
both those games are gonna be phenomenal. There are some
college football fans who are angry that it goes head
to head with the college football playoffs.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You know, hey, let's send it happened.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Saturday in December, Christmas shopping and December.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Okay, everybody's freaking out. Media, stop, we have a college
football playoff. The NFL puts games everywhere. You're gonna get
days where you gotta make choices. Sorry, but the world
of sports isn't going Dayton, Ohio. You can't put two
games on at the same time. We knew going into
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the college football Playoff this would happen. For the record,
then you put the holidays and in the NBA in
search games in. There's gonna be days in December going
forward because of the expanded college football Playoff. This is
our new reality. Let me tell you. The best problem
to have is a guy that loves sports is having
to get a second TV to watch the Buckeyes on
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one and the Packers on another. If that's our biggest problem,
we're all better for in good shit.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Also, do you have a remote control. Does it work?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I can get you batteries for Christmas early if you'd like.
It's not that big of a deal. More sports, what's.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Come on?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
How good do we have it?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Don't we all love the red zone? There's ten games
on it once?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Who care?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
By the way, I put this in my phone, this
set Saturday, December twenty. Do not schedule anything so the
wife can't be like, hey, we're going.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
To see Christmas likes. No, No, I've got.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
The calendar that night. Now we got football, and we
got college and NFL Like, I'm not doing it. So
I highly recommend dudes get on your calendar and beat
the way to it. Next up, uh oh boy oh
Aaron Rodgers colin.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I know we're getting sick of him.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But however, Steelers insiders, two gentlemen named Tom Philippony and
Chris Mueller who cover the team deeply, are saying there's
a big Steelers announcement coming today and the belief is
that they the Steelers will be signing Aaron Rodgers. Now
the schedule is done, right, they're not making any.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Tweeks, so maybe the.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Steelers know, hey, we got the schedule left so.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
We know why he may not sign today, because, in
typical Aaron fashion, if he goes online, which he's on
a lot, and reads that people are suggesting he'll sign today,
he won't do it.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
As a matter of princess.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
He'll do it in the next week. If he's going
to do it on a day people are forgetting about it,
like I can see him doing it just to stick
it to the NFL the exact hour of the schedules tomorrow.
I call him no way. Aaron is much more calculated.
He and Lebron are very calculated. Doesn't make them bad people,
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but they they make things look like it. Nobody can
control me, nobody's got the information. They're on the internet
all day making sure you do insufferable.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I would just say, Aaron, can you wait till next week.
There's no draft lottery, there's those schedule released next week a.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Little slower than this week. Just wait, don't do it today.
A lot of stuff going on. Final story, Colin is
to the NBA and this is gonna be an issue.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yannis.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
He has come out and said I guess he went
on his brother's podcast a couple of weeks ago, said
he's open to the idea of moving. There's a report
from another network saying he wants to play with another
star player. The Knicks fans are saying, hey, we'll see
how this goes. We could get in the mix for him.
Dwight Howard is trying to engagement Farm and say that, hey,
y honest, I could give you some advice.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
The interesting angle here is trickling out of Houston. Colin.
The Rockets want Jannis.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They are not interested, reportedly in Kevin Durant, Zion Williamson,
or Devin Booker. That to me is fascinating that they're
putting it out. We don't want these guys. We want Yiannis.
I think Houston has to be the clubhouse leader, although
the Spurs become interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
With that second pick.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, I think Katie and Booker would both fit very
well in Houston, but that's their call. Listen, if you
get Yannis, you'll My guess is you'll have to give
up either a men Thompson and Houston says we won't,
or Shoon, which you know you would get a twenty
point a game. What's what's he's only like twenty two
years old. He'll end up being a twenty four to
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twenty five a game center and by the way, moving
into his prime for the next eight years. So I
think Milwaukee would say we're getting We're not getting Yannis,
but we're getting eight years a big guy, and he's
the guy. That guy's a good finesse player. He can pass,
he can score, he can shoot, He's got a feathery touch,
So I think he would have to be at least
Houston's got the stuff to pull it off.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Picks and players.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, and Houston has said we're not giving up Amen
Thompson that I totally agree with. He is a dog,
would not let anybody touch him.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
To the Yannis.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I want to play with another star player. I'm in
Thompson's not a star well, Yiannis thirty one. I believe
like if you give up she goon Jalen Green, I three.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Fix a men. Thompson's an All Star next year.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Next year, Oh, I think he's gonna say two years.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, okay, but I mean he's an All Star level player.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, and I don't want to hear that the fans
of Dell's in Milwaukee saying we don't want Jalen Green
and Shangun Listen Brook Lopez is moving on.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
He's thirty seven free agent. They're looking to.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Cut cut costs. And I think Shan goon is he's
an All Star in the East.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, he was twenty two in All Stars. So there's
you could say if he plays to thirty two, he'll
make seven eight more All Star Games. Now Web, he's
gonna start. Wenby's going to start making some and Holmegrown's
going to start making.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Joel Embid's on his way out. I'm just trying to
come up with it away for the for the Lakers
to get in. The honesty takes there.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
There's really just no everybody's talking about k D KD
to wear Lakers, Well, they're just talking about Katie moving.
What about Booker. Booker's younger. He's a basket in, a
veteran version of Jamal Murray.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
He was a home guy. They love him in Phoenix.
Katie's just an assassin, a hired gun. I don't think
they would.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I don't think they love Kad the way they love
book You know.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
All right, that's fair. Jmack with the news, Well.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping that. The herd
Line news.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
So we're not going to speculate on Jason Tatum. He
was having a great playoff game, totally aggressive. But I
do think watching that game last night, Boston needs to
look in the mirror here. I don't know what's happening
with Porzingis, but the mystery illness, the injuries, the inconsistency.
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Kats got his issues, so does Robinson. For the Knicks,
but they feel like they're more substantial. You got to
look in the mirror on Joe Missoula. I thought he
got worked. Al Horford's old Drew Holliday is age very quickly,
and the teams out west and Indiana out east are
all getting better, and the Knicks are for real. So
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and this team is strapped financially if they just signed
their first round pick. The Celtics are strap financially. And
my guess is Tatum's not playing at best until the
All Star Game. So this reminds me, and it's one
of the things about pro sports we talk about all
the time, is that this team reminds me of Denver.
So they had Jokic, they had Jamal Murray, they had
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a bunch of good players and one great player, and
Denver won the title. And I can remember saying, boy,
they could be San Antonio. They got their duncan, and
then all of a sudden they had to move off
some bench guys and rotational guys, and you look up
and you're like, uh, Denver's Denver surrounded by a bunch
of good young teams and Wemby and SGA, and Denver's
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just gonna get one, which is fine. Getting one is
It's more than the Niners have done. It's more than
Baltimore and the Bills have done in the NFL. Getting
one trophy's hard, but they've got a Boston's it's interesting.
New York's for real. Indiana's got an excellent roster and
may beat if they get through it, beat New York. Okay,
see Houston, San Antonio are going nowhere. I mean the
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good news I guess for Boston is Yannis is going west.
But I would say Milwaukee's gonna load up on young players.
I think I think Boston's got a Boston issue is that.
I think, like Denver, we looked at them and we thought, Okay,
this thing's gonna last. Then the owner always be careful
when the owner sells, what do they see the owner cells?
(29:32):
Now Tatum's hurt Porzingi's true holiday age very quickly. And
I think Joe Missoula felt like last night, he really
felt second third tier, like he's kind of one golf
club in the back coach, so Adam Silver, he didn't
want dynasties. And you know, Boston's an example. They are
up against it. Their payrolls, what five hundred million they
(29:56):
gonna move off pieces. Here was Joe Missoula on and
just add this in. It's awful, that devastating Jason Tatum injury.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
I mean, he obviously always concerned about someone's health. So
you know it's twofold. We're concerned about his health where
he's at, and then we're concerned about what we have
to do better for Game five. We're gona get back
to Boston.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, he was playing a great basketball game. He was
really aggressive between Brunson and Jason Tatum. You were getting
I was sitting there watching and I'm like, boy, this
is an all time NBA playoff game. This is all
time stuff. The New York crowd is fantastic. Indiana and
New York crowds are nuts. They are Jeff. The Eastern
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Conference doesn't have as good as players or teams. The
fans are nuts in Indiana and New York, and it
was one of those games where you really felt the
crowd was elevating a team, but Tatum, because Prissuer wasn't
playing much, Tatum was really carrying that team. They were
just doing ISOs and when he got a little cold,
suddenly boomed nixt lead by nine shot making. So I think,
(30:59):
I guess is I look at Boston going forward, cross
your fingers on Tatum, But will they become Milwaukee, Denver,
Toronto Raptors where you think there's more, you look up
and it's like we're a one time championship team. Here.
My owner takeaway in this is I thought all year
New York's got to take a big swing. If this
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is how the NBA is going to allow games to
be officiated, physical teams that d up and make shots late.
When New York does not need a big swing, they
may need a tweak. I don't trust Robinson at the
line or Cat's defense may need a big guy tweak.
Bridge has been great, though Brunton's a number one. OG's
been amazing, Josh Hart excellent team player, and Tibbs is
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having a great series for New York, So I think
it's more of a tweak for New York. You know,
this Knicks front office for the last three years has
been so patient, and all of us in the media
keeps saying, get Gannis and get k and for years
they would, But this New York Knicks front office is
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patient and smart and kind of tunes out the press
and the media smartly, and they are a I mean,
it's you can't watch that game last night and not
I mean, I found myself rooting for the Knicks in
this series. You can't not root for a team that
plays this hard and makes these kind of shops. And
it's very rare when a New York team is a
lovable underdog, and they are. They're one of the great
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watches in the league. It's a combination of Villanova, NBA, guts,
dial toughness, coaching. It's hard to turn off.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
By the way, are you surprised the Celtics kept leaving
thirty eight year old al Horford on an island against
Brunson threw a double at I was stunned, and Brunson
is just cooking and left and right he had amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I just their offense. They just started standing around. It's
like it's like, listen, that's when you call a time out.
You've got to you gotta call a timeout, engineer a play,
get a basket because that New York crowd did you notice?
I mean it was like it felt like almost if
you ever go to a boxing match and there's a
home fighter where obviously it's in Panama and it's a
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Panamanian fighter, and you can tell the crowd is elevating
the boxer. I mean it was like when you go
to New York and this crowd and they go on
like a six to zhering run, time out, call a play,
get a bucket because that crowd was jet fuel for
the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
By the way, did you see who's leading the Celtics
in points, rebounds, assists and steals in the series.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I wasn't sure if you saw that. No, it's Jayson Tatum.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
No, he was played great last night. He played great.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Is that great series?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
It's had a good series. He had a great night,
a good series, a great night. He was tremendous last night.
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Speaker 1 (35:01):
So uh, I find I said, I don't think Cleveland's
gonna be any good this year. I like their GM,
I love Miles Garrett, Kevin Stefanski. They're not gonna be
very good, but it's gonna be fascinating to watch him
because essentially they drafted a much more talented Tim Tebow.
They have Shaduur Sanders, and he's going to be the talk.
So according to the athletics Zach Jackson, he joined some
(35:24):
something called the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show and he said,
in just throwing the ball, it's not close shador Sanders,
It's not close. He is much better than Dylan Gabriel.
Yes he is. He's much bigger and much better. I
don't know how schaduor Sanders is going to be as
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a pro, so much of this is where you land.
I do like Stefanski a lot, but Shadour is six
to two historically accurate, and I have seen him standing
around like people like me, normal sized people. He's big.
He's a big you know. Mahomes is six one and
a half. You never question Mahomes has big hands, big shoulders,
(36:07):
a butt like some guys are six one and a
half six two. Aaron Rodgers is my size. I work
out almost every day. He weighs thirty five pounds more
than me. Why air Aaron Rodgers? You never think about
his size. He's six to one, big butt, big calves,
big risks. You know, Aaron je pro athlete. Kate Cunningham
we talked about earlier with Detroit. Kate Cunningham is what
(36:29):
a pro athlete looks like. I'm gonna show you a
picture of pro day at Oregon, Bo Nicks, Justin Herbert
and Dylan Gabriel take a look at the picture. Sorry,
radio audience, Okay, Dylan Gabriel is noticeably smaller and thinner
than bow Knicks and bo Nicks is not ideal size
(36:51):
in the NFL. Justin Herbert is your ideal NFL size quarterback, six'
five wide, shoulders big, ed big, hands. Legs and, again
it is not to pick On Dylan. GABRIEL i think
he was everybody's talking About shador being. UNDERDRAFTED i Thought
Dylan gabriel was. Overdrafted to, me he's like a six
(37:12):
or seventh round. PICK i think he is a backup
to a backup in THE. Nfl he is a very
very small, guy and he's also a five to eleven pocket.
Guy so the guys in THE nfl that can still
win games in the pocket are six Three Matt stafford six,'
Four jared goff, Six'. Six joe flacco eli, Was six'
(37:33):
five peyton was six five and a half. Or whatever
he was brady is much Taller than me and i'm
six one and a, Half six y two, so it's
it's yes this is Not Somebody. Pulling For shadeur sanders
shadeur sanders. Is A good prospect kenny pickett got drafted.
In The first round shodell sanders a Much Better, quarterback
(37:53):
than kenny, pickett in my. Opinion Much better prospect dylan gabriel,
had a great coach, a great offensive line and, a
great Run Game and yet shoudur standers ran for, more
rushing first downs mostly, running for his life and we
don't consider. Him A mobile quarterback and, I've been saying
this shador is, plenty PLENTY mobile enough and i like all,
(38:15):
the Answers so far What. I've heard, from shadour of course.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
IT'S day by day I just find something i want
to perfect and just perfect it to the. Best of
my ABILITIES and that's how i really focus on, and
just being there, just being a leader, being a GREAT
teammate doing what i need to. Do Whenever it is
so i'm. Just thankful for opportunity things could have. Been
A lot worse but i'm here smiling in front of.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
You all at.
Speaker 9 (38:43):
This facility right now from my job here isn't, to
PROVE people wrong like. I prove myself right THAT'S that's
THAT'S and i and, i fully. Self belief you know
and uh with those people say that.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
That's, Just the, opinions okay so again no, idea if
It works But When, shador AND dylan gabriel and i
wouldn't mind seeing A Few snippets of dylan gabriel video over.
The next several months And this is why shadeur got
drafted later if you didn't see. Him as a starter
people didn't want the t bow noise That We. Saw
in new. York it's a Mess Belichick. Moved off cam
(39:17):
kaepernick those guys are starters or you don't want. Him
in the. Room There's too much but shadur. Is a
decent prospect he may not. Be A great prospect cam
ward was. Clearly the best prospect. SHADAR is pretty good
i want to Go back to the i'm not even
going TO argue that the. Nba lottery is rigged. YOU
whatever you. WANT i don't care i think. It's kind
of funny you do whatever. You WANT to do but
(39:38):
i think there's, been some, talk About you know would
dallas get a yawnis like, they Need more size would
dallas move? The, number One pick listen what cooper. Flag
is is Hope when, they traded luca. AWAY they lost
hope I, Still Contend if kyrie Anthony davis and the
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mavericks Were healthy, after the luca trade they would have
been a Dangerous playoff team. Like minnesota level dangerous but
everybody got hurt and it's. A mass AND whatever but
the nfl has always, done a great job where if,
the thirty two teams you always feel like about twenty
seven enter of the year with a, chance to do
something maybe be. A wild card team that's. A league,
of hope in baseball we know there's about eight to
(40:20):
ten teams. That cannot compete financially we know that Most
Of Them In, america international league central they. Just can't
stack up WE know in the nba there's eight to
ten or more teams that are hard to. Watch and
years away because THE draft in the nba gives you a,
seventeen eighteen year old they're years from being able to get.
Into the HOTEL, bar in the nfl it's. The league
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of hope you're drafting. Twenty three year olds if you
get the right quarterback with four years of college experience and,
the right coach Boom you can be. Houston playoff team
overnight you Can be a LAUGHINGSTOCK washington. To the, nfc,
championship coach coordinator quarterback you don't even. Need A great
roster But I do think cooper flag is a domestic
product and an eighteen to twenty. Point a game guy very.
Early in his career He creates Hope. IN dallas and
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dallas a lot. Of it was overstated they were going
To Be fine if kyrie. Irving Didn't, Get Hurt anthony
davis kyrie irving and, all these big guys they were
going to be a. Playoff team next Year Even in,
the west cooper flag though you can kind of Plant,
that flag in hey we can. Compete now very quickly
so what is interesting Is how here's what i've noticed
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in the. Last thirty Six hours i'm told, Jannis is
going West dallas, Now Got cooper flag san antonio got.
The Number two pick oklahoma city's got a. War chest
of picks houston's going, to make Multiple, moves and the
lakers you know they're. Going to BE aggressive that's why
I Said About. The, new York knicks hey let's boston's
(41:49):
got to. Make, Some Moves, here Horford drew, Holliday Porzingis
Tatum's injury is joe. Mizoula The, right guy new york At,
least in the east, Is, a lot close Sir To
being an eastern conference champion minimum than any of us.
Thought a week ago our two next
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Thanks for making us part of your day. Well, there
was perceived controversy to the New York Knicks. Looked like
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the real deal. The Warriors are done, NFL schedule release
coach k Mike Krzyzewski stops by Nick Wright in an
hour from now stop by wild night, but so many
different storylines, just a completely wild night in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, you could say that, Colin conspiracy theorists running wild.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's a great night date of your conspiracy games.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, several minutes before that awful injury to Jason Tatum,
several minutes before you could see it. I could see it.
I think people in Boston could see it. The Knicks
are gonna win this series. They're the better team, they're
better coached, they're more relentless. The home crowd clearly elevates
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this team. They're dominating the boards, Their bigs are playing better,
They're passing better, less standing around, better decision making more
points in the paint. Tibbs took the Celtics head coach
Joe Missoula to the cleaners. The Celtics in the second
half it was ISOs stand around basketball coach, pull some levers?
(01:51):
Do something? What happened to Peyton Pritchard. Isn't he good?
Why he only played twenty minutes? It was just hard
to watch miss The coaches like he's got a checklist.
That's not That's not what NBA playoff basketball is about.
It's about pulling levers. You can see us Steve Kerr
do it though he's out manned. You really see a
Chris Finch doing it for years, Eric Spolstra. Joe Missoula
(02:16):
has got like one club in his bag. When the
three point shots don't fall, he's out of luck. But
this series really has not been about the Celtics. It's
been about New York. If you didn't know better and
you just turned into that thing. Last night. You would
think the world champion New York Knicks were defending their title.
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Their ability to execute in crunch time, everybody's touching the ball,
the shot making from Kat Brunson, og bridges, the toughness
coming back multiple games, all of them from twenty points down.
Their leader, Jalen Brunson, Let's just be honest. He is
like the new Jerry West. He is mister Krott. Clutch
(03:00):
played great before the injury. It was a great game.
But in terms of Clutch, is there any small player
in this league you trust more with the ball than
Jalen Brunson. I'm including staff. I know he's undersized, I
know he's a second rounder. I know he's not a
premier athlete, but man, he finds good shots. He has been,
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and I've said this for the last two years, the
best quarterback New York has. His decision making. You can
tell he's a smart guy that went to Villanova, dad
played in the league. Fearless player, totally trustworthy. But again,
it's not just that New York's winning, it's how they're winning.
New York is making Boston look fragmented, disorganized, poorly coached,
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confused and passive. If you'd never watch basketball and you
tune into that game, and I said, find the champion.
It looks like the Knicks. They've got a swagger, a confidence,
shot making and attitude, even before the Tatum injury, which
was obviously awful. And we're not going to speculate, but
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that looked really bad. We'll find out more today an
MRI New York. It's only three to one Nicks. It
felt like it was over five minutes before the Tatum injury.
The confidence, the shot making. I'm sitting here watching everybody
on that team depending on nobody. Great ball movement, Josh
Harten didn't need a bunch of points. He touch it,
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get it to somebody who's hot. Here's Brunson after.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I think it was a sense of urgency, desperation, just
knowing that we have a great opportunity. I we're playing
a really good team and I don't even think we're
playing our best basketball yet. Now we have a team
who's fairly new this year, and we still have a
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long way to go to be the best thing we
can be.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It is these windows close fast. I was talking to
a friend last night in the podcast and I said,
remember when the Seahawks were great and then they won
a Super Bowl, blew out Peyton Manning. They go to
another one, should win it. Russell Wilson throws a pick.
People thought Marshawn Lynch should have gotten the handoff. They
lose close to Brady and the Patriots. It screws with
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the culture in the locker room. There's doubt, there's finger pointing.
Never the same franchise good but never great again. And
with Boston the injury, five hundred million dollar bankroll, needed
new owners. They're getting old. What happened to poorzingis? I
don't know. I know the West has better teams, younger teams,
But when I watched the Knicks all year long, I've thought,
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you know, they've got to solve this. They need another
shot maker. I'm watching this series and I'm like, they
maybe they need to tweak a more dependable big but
I don't think they need much, at least to win
the East. All right, Let's talk Golden State. Golden State's
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in trouble, not just this year, but for the foreseeable future.
They brought in Jimmy Butler, as we talked about yesterday,
to squeeze every last bit of juice out of staphf
and Steve Kerr again excellent coach. But just like the
Lakers series where old Lebron, Luca and Austin Reeves kind
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of felt outmanned that Minnesota was getting more out of
more players. I'm watching the Timberwolves. That's the opposite of
the Celtics. That team doesn't have as this team doesn't
have as much talent. They're pulling every lever. I mean,
Julius Randall, he's a legitimate too. He was never a
good playoff guy. He's been excellent thirty one last night,
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fifty two percent from the field. His assist playmaking has
been fantastic. He's finally a dependable playoff guy. And Edwards
unrefined at times. Anybody noticed in the series he averages
seven points in the first half, twenty in the second.
Something the staff is doing and tweaking is changing the
way he plays in every game in the second half.
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It's remarkable. This is an odd, disparate roster full of
guys that shouldn't fit. Seven foot one Rudy Gobert who
can't really shoot, undrafted Naz Reid, who's a good athlete,
but what else, Julius Randall, who's a tweeter and an
emerging superstar who sometimes can't find his shot. It's just
a bunch of guys who we've never trusted in the playoffs,
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and now for the second straight year, we do. I
mean Lebron, Luca and Austin Reeves look completely outclassed. A
little bit of Steph Butler and Draymond similarly, it doesn't
feel like they're close. And this was the clear value
of coaching on display. You look at this Minnesota roster,
you could argue there's five or six better rosters. Cleveland's
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roster is better. I mean, oksees is obviously better. I
could argue Golden State when Steph is healthy healthy, is close.
But it's it's they have transformed all these different pieces
that shouldn't necessarily fit. Julius Randall didn't really fit early
in the season. Now at the end of the season,
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what a great, dependable number two. We've never said that
about Julius Randall. And it was a halftime speech by
a newly formed leader and Edwards that changed the game.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I told him we only got two wins.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I've never seen a series and two to one, so
I told him, you know, we got to get two
more wins, and right now we're playing like we already
got four wins, Like we're playing like they gonna lay down,
and knowing his team, knowing their head coach, they're never
going to lay down. So we had to figure it out, man,
because if we would have kept playing like that, we
would have.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Lost the night. So during the Dynasty, in the Great
Run by Steve Kerr, he has always been known the
Warriors have had some of the great quarters. Ever a
little tweak. Add this subtract that change that tweak that
the Warriors would take close games and come out with
an eighteen to four run and end it. That's what
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Minnesota has been doing. Especially Aunt Edwards, he is a
totally different player. First couple of games in this series,
shots didn't fall, couldn't get the close ones to go either.
He's been in this series transformed. That is, along with Aunt, Randall, Gobert,
nas Reed and the rest that is coaching on display.
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So Jmac the listen, I don't care what people say
about market size. The defending champs are in big trouble.
Minnesota is going to beat the most popular player, Steph
Curry Lakers have already been extinguished. Okase, he's a small market,
but nonetheless, Americans are absolutely sure the lottery was rigged.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well Collin, first of all, I don't know that the
Timberwolves are beating Steph Curry since he's barely played in
the series.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
They're beating a Warriors team which.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Doesn't look like, I mean anything resembling a playoff team
without Curry. It is amazing how far they've fallen without
a superstar.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, I mean it's it's I.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Think Boston will show up the next game without Tatum. Yes,
the Warriors can't do anything without Curry.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I mean he is their GPS. They're kind of
a directionless offense. He's the you know, we've said this,
there are certain players Lebron in his prime and Steph
Curry where they're kind of the ecosystem. Like the offense
goes through them. It looks different, the pacing is different,
the ball movements. That's why Kaminga is flourishing without staff,
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and then the offense totally changes with staff and he
just looks lost. So there are the good news for
Golden State is they're going to be able to move Kaminga,
who looks like a twenty game, twenty point a game
guy against a very good defensive team. So Kaminga his
value shot up. That's the only thing if you're the
war Warriors. Because I don't think Curry's gonna play he
acknowledged yesterday, is what's the point of risking it? Hamstring,
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as you've noted, is a rest injury. But Cominga's play
has created a market.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
It has.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I just the whole the way the draft went down
last night, the draft lottery, this Yannis stuff is going
absolutely volcanic. There's so many teams potentially involved, plus the
Tatum injury, Colin.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I had thought Boston could be a landing spot for you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Honest, I don't know if that's the case anymore. Due
to this injury to Tatum, He's gonna be out until
at least the All Star Break, possibly longer.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, next year stinks.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
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Speaker 1 (12:06):
Well, you're seeing it all over America. A lack of
trust in institutions. It could be the FBI, the CIA,
It could be the media. It could be the White House.
The default explanation in America in twenty twenty five when
you are ticked off or you can't explain something or
something doesn't go your way. It could be officiating. It
(12:26):
could be an election. It could be the draft lottery.
Is it's rigged? Yeah, I've got video of Dallas's draft
room last night. Draft lottery room. You're gonna get twelve
guys to act like this for thirty seconds. There aren't
this many good actors in Hollywood that would do that.
Did they rig it for Creuddy Atlanta last year that
was also a playing team like the MAVs. Did they
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rig it for the New York Islanders like the Mavericks
had a very small percentage to win. Yeah, it's fixed.
It is fixed, fixed so that the worst tanking teams
don't win the lottery. Yes, it is fixed. Essentially, the
draft lottery now is like the local raffle at your
tavern where you got fifteen twenty people. It's a raffle,
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and sometimes the same guy wins two out of four raffles.
That's the way it is. By the way, when Zion
Williamson out of huge brand Duke an dunking machine was
available and the Knicks had the number one pick, yeah,
they fixed it so the Pelicans would get it, or
Atlanta last year. By the way, if you're going to
fix it, give Chicago or Philadelphia Cooper flag, not football
(13:32):
crazy Dallas. The NBA has flattened the lottery are odds
essentially a raffle, a scratch off ticket. What's that mean?
No team with the worst record has won it since
they did it. The NBA changed the rules to create this.
Do you really think Wemby? They would say, let's say
where can we put Wemby? Let's put him in San Antonio. Yeah,
(13:53):
the last time san Antonio had a dynasty, it killed
the TV ratings for a decade. You would not pick
san Antonio, believe me. In fact, some of you aren't
very good at math. The three teams with the best
odds to win. Last night, the odds were fourteen percent.
(14:14):
That's a raffle. Those are the best odds. If you
add the three teams with the best odds together, it
still doesn't reach fifty percent. And what's happened the last
several years, the best odds has finished fifth and that
happened again last night. Utah, it is a raffle. They
flattened the odds. You would not have put Wemby in
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San Antonio. You would not have put Zion with the Pelicans.
The Pelicans have won this thing multiple times. Well, Lebron
left and they gave Cleveland Andrew Wiggins. It doesn't matter
if Lebron's coming or going. Nobody in any league office
is rooting for Cleveland to get the best players. So
it's just like, this is the way it worked. This
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is what the NBA wanted. The NBA won. What you're
seeing with the CBA. There are no more dynasties. That's
what Adams Olver wanted. And with this, I mean the
crazy thing San Antonio almost won, which is nuts, but
it should be noted they also draft and develop well.
So for the third year in a row, the team
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with the worst actual record did not win this thing.
And I think Cooper Flag in Dallas is great. I
think he's exactly what they needed. But he's also exactly
what every team in the league. The Lakers could use him.
The Knicks are a good team. They could use him.
He's Jason Tatum, That's what he is. He's Jason Tatum,
(15:39):
and he's got twelve thirteen years potentially a prime coming
into the league. So just listen. I understand nobody trusts institutions.
I get it. It's happening all over the land right
It's FBI, CIA vaccines. Everybody on the internet's an expert.
That's fight. Doesn't bother me. I'm not going to try
to convince you otherwise. I'm just telling you what I see,
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which is the NBA. Adam Silver said, you know what,
I'm gonna be friendlier to the players than David Stern.
I'm gonna get out of the dynasty business, and we're
gonna flatten these odds because tanking is really bad. Tanking's
really bad for the NBA for a lot of reasons.
One of the reasons it's really bad is March. College
basketball is super competitive with the tournament and March is
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the time in the NBA that teams tank. So you
watch a college game with all that energy and then
turn in to an NBA game and it's like, you know,
you know, the Wizard's tanking, and Adam Silver's like, this
is a bad six week look for our league. So
they got seventy six billion dollars for eleven years. Okay, Now,
whether NBC can make that work financially, that's up to NBC.
(16:44):
But if you want to believe tanking and go for it,
I'm just saying Wemby wouldn't have been picked in San
Antonio and Zion wouldn't go to the Pelicans because the
Knicks had the number one pick. By the way, Utah,
this is what keeps happening to odds only fourteen percent.
Once again, best odds get the fifth picked. That's how
(17:05):
raffles work. I've had raffles. I've never won a raffle.
I've bought thirty tickets to a raffle with twelve people.
I've never won a raffle. I have been at raffles,
had one hundred bucks in my pocket and bought tickets
for the whole family and not want a raffle. I
don't think it's rigged. I think that's how scratch off
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games and raffles work. Jmack with the News No, no, no, turn.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Is.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I would be terrible going to the NBA Draft lottery.
I would be a terrible guy to put up there.
I've never won a thing on a scratch off. For
every time I buy a lottery ticket, I already buy
the jet skis. I already know I'm gonna win. I
don't think I've won a nickel. Ever.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I didn't see you as a raffle ticket guy. Every
guy they cover around, I'm like, no thanks.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Can I just ten seconds steal? So Lebron in twenty
ten ditches the Cabs for the heat.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Guess who gets.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
A year later the number one pick, the Cleveland Cavaliers,
and they draft Kyrie Irving is super star point guard
Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Let me stop you there, okay. Kyrie Irving played eight
games at Due, and you know there was talk within
the program he was talented, but small and couldn't stay healthy.
So the idea that he was going to become the
great ten year left right handed finisher. Kyrie Irving was
a speculative eight college games, bit of a tude, couldn't
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stay healthy. So this idea they oh, they knew, no, no, no,
people knew Carmelo and Lebron would be great, Wemby would
be great. There have been a lot Kyrie Irving, I
would argue his first three years in Cleveland, a lot
of people thought he was a bus So let's stop
with the Lebron left and we gave you the magic
Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So that was just one.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Then Anthony Davis forces his way out of New Orleans
to the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Get me there.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Guess who wins the draft lottery the next yet Pelicans
get Zion Williams.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay, So let's just guess you really think the NFL,
if the NFL or NBA would ever pick a Charlotte
or a New Orleans to win, while you would always
go New York, Philly, Boston, Chicage like last night, first
team off the board Chicago, And I'm like, uh, I
mean you would want? I mean Chicago leads the NBA
(19:17):
in attendance virtually every year for twenty years, even since
Michael left, and they've had bad teams and many speculate
they're not well run. Would you not put Cooper Flag
from Duke to Chicago.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I was hoping for Chicago so euld get close.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
They were like.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Twelve with those two in the last fifteen years, compounded
by Luca forgetting going to the Lakers. Hey, Dallas, we'll
hook you up. We'll get you Cooper Flagg. And I
know that sounds crazy, but three in the last fit,
I'm not saying it's okay. Let's say let me ask
you this. Three in the last fifteen we live next
to Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I'm I'm I'm part of a group of people that
is writing a script. Not writing a script, but part
of a script. I'm on television, so I could probably
you could probably put me on something and I could
act a little bit. Show the video again of fifteen
men in Dallas acting in a room. Yeah. Now, now
(20:06):
I've had a one or two of these moments in life.
You're gonna get fifteen dude, Look at these guys. These
guys are going not well.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I mean, the theory would be only one guy knew,
and that's Nico Harrison.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What was going on?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But again, I know people are here listening to this
and Jay MC, you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It is a weird coincidence.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
That teams lose a major star and then get handed
the number one.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Pick the next year.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But again, I'll I'll tell you a weird coincidence. I
went walking lost my car keys a month ago, told
this story. Yeah, I walked back and there was one
person sitting in the park. I walked up and said,
have you seen any keys? And she said, oh, yeah,
they're right here. I picked them up an hour ago.
That's a coincidence. It's not a coincidence. I mean I
(20:53):
literally was like, what are the chances in La in
La the lady sitting at the park having my keys?
That's zany And that wasn't fixed either. That wasn't rigged either.
It's just the stuff happened.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
As someone who went to Japan. If that happened in Japan,
your key would have been sitting there. Nobody would have
picked it up because they don't do that.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Let's get to the news. The NFL announces the schedule tomorrow,
but some games are starting to leak. Boy Fox got
hooked up Colin Week sixteen, Saturday, December twentieth, we get
Eagles Commanders rematch to the NFC Championship and Packers bears
a tremendous rise playing for a.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Wild card spot. That Packer Bear game is gonna be lit. Oh,
both those games are gonna be phenomenal. There are some
college football fans who are angry that it goes head
to head with the college football playoffs.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You know, hey, let's send it happened.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Saturday in December, Christmas shopping and December.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Okay, everybody's freaking out. Media, stop, we have a college
football playoff. The NFL puts games everywhere. You're gonna get
days where you gotta make choices. Sorry, but the world
of sports isn't going Dayton, Ohio. You can't put two
games on at the same time. We knew going into
(22:04):
the college football Playoff this would happen. For the record,
then you put the holidays and in the NBA in
search games in. There's gonna be days in December going
forward because of the expanded college football Playoff. This is
our new reality. Let me tell you. The best problem
to have is a guy that loves sports is having
to get a second TV to watch the Buckeyes on
(22:25):
one and the Packers on another. If that's our biggest problem,
we're all better for in good shit.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Also, do you have a remote control. Does it work?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I can get you batteries for Christmas early if you'd like.
It's not that big of a deal. More sports, what's.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Come on?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
How good do we have it?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Don't we all love the red zone? There's ten games
on it once?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Who care?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
By the way, I put this in my phone, this
set Saturday, December twenty. Do not schedule anything so the
wife can't be like, hey, we're going.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
To see Christmas likes. No, No, I've got.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
The calendar that night. Now we got football, and we
got college and NFL Like, I'm not doing it. So
I highly recommend dudes get on your calendar and beat
the way to it. Next up, uh oh boy oh
Aaron Rodgers colin.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I know we're getting sick of him.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But however, Steelers insiders, two gentlemen named Tom Philippony and
Chris Mueller who cover the team deeply, are saying there's
a big Steelers announcement coming today and the belief is
that they the Steelers will be signing Aaron Rodgers. Now
the schedule is done, right, they're not making any.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Tweeks, so maybe the.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Steelers know, hey, we got the schedule left so.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
We know why he may not sign today, because, in
typical Aaron fashion, if he goes online, which he's on
a lot, and reads that people are suggesting he'll sign today,
he won't do it.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
As a matter of princess.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
He'll do it in the next week. If he's going
to do it on a day people are forgetting about it,
like I can see him doing it just to stick
it to the NFL the exact hour of the schedules tomorrow.
I call him no way. Aaron is much more calculated.
He and Lebron are very calculated. Doesn't make them bad people,
(24:02):
but they they make things look like it. Nobody can
control me, nobody's got the information. They're on the internet
all day making sure you do insufferable.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I would just say, Aaron, can you wait till next week.
There's no draft lottery, there's those schedule released next week a.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Little slower than this week. Just wait, don't do it today.
A lot of stuff going on. Final story, Colin is
to the NBA and this is gonna be an issue.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yannis.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
He has come out and said I guess he went
on his brother's podcast a couple of weeks ago, said
he's open to the idea of moving. There's a report
from another network saying he wants to play with another
star player. The Knicks fans are saying, hey, we'll see
how this goes. We could get in the mix for him.
Dwight Howard is trying to engagement Farm and say that, hey,
y honest, I could give you some advice.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
The interesting angle here is trickling out of Houston. Colin.
The Rockets want Jannis.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They are not interested, reportedly in Kevin Durant, Zion Williamson,
or Devin Booker. That to me is fascinating that they're
putting it out. We don't want these guys. We want Yiannis.
I think Houston has to be the clubhouse leader, although
the Spurs become interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
With that second pick.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, I think Katie and Booker would both fit very
well in Houston, but that's their call. Listen, if you
get Yannis, you'll My guess is you'll have to give
up either a men Thompson and Houston says we won't,
or Shoon, which you know you would get a twenty
point a game. What's what's he's only like twenty two
years old. He'll end up being a twenty four to
(25:32):
twenty five a game center and by the way, moving
into his prime for the next eight years. So I
think Milwaukee would say we're getting We're not getting Yannis,
but we're getting eight years a big guy, and he's
the guy. That guy's a good finesse player. He can pass,
he can score, he can shoot, He's got a feathery touch,
So I think he would have to be at least
Houston's got the stuff to pull it off.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Picks and players.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, and Houston has said we're not giving up Amen
Thompson that I totally agree with. He is a dog,
would not let anybody touch him.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
To the Yannis.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I want to play with another star player. I'm in
Thompson's not a star well, Yiannis thirty one. I believe
like if you give up she goon Jalen Green, I three.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Fix a men. Thompson's an All Star next year.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Next year, Oh, I think he's gonna say two years.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, okay, but I mean he's an All Star level player.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, and I don't want to hear that the fans
of Dell's in Milwaukee saying we don't want Jalen Green
and Shangun Listen Brook Lopez is moving on.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
He's thirty seven free agent. They're looking to.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Cut cut costs. And I think Shan goon is he's
an All Star in the East.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, he was twenty two in All Stars. So there's
you could say if he plays to thirty two, he'll
make seven eight more All Star Games. Now Web, he's
gonna start. Wenby's going to start making some and Holmegrown's
going to start making.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Joel Embid's on his way out. I'm just trying to
come up with it away for the for the Lakers
to get in. The honesty takes there.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
There's really just no everybody's talking about k D KD
to wear Lakers, Well, they're just talking about Katie moving.
What about Booker. Booker's younger. He's a basket in, a
veteran version of Jamal Murray.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
He was a home guy. They love him in Phoenix.
Katie's just an assassin, a hired gun. I don't think
they would.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I don't think they love Kad the way they love
book You know.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
All right, that's fair. Jmack with the news, Well.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
That's the news, and thanks for stopping that. The herd
Line news.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
So we're not going to speculate on Jason Tatum. He
was having a great playoff game, totally aggressive. But I
do think watching that game last night, Boston needs to
look in the mirror here. I don't know what's happening
with Porzingis, but the mystery illness, the injuries, the inconsistency.
(27:37):
Kats got his issues, so does Robinson. For the Knicks,
but they feel like they're more substantial. You got to
look in the mirror on Joe Missoula. I thought he
got worked. Al Horford's old Drew Holliday is age very quickly,
and the teams out west and Indiana out east are
all getting better, and the Knicks are for real. So
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and this team is strapped financially if they just signed
their first round pick. The Celtics are strap financially. And
my guess is Tatum's not playing at best until the
All Star Game. So this reminds me, and it's one
of the things about pro sports we talk about all
the time, is that this team reminds me of Denver.
So they had Jokic, they had Jamal Murray, they had
(28:19):
a bunch of good players and one great player, and
Denver won the title. And I can remember saying, boy,
they could be San Antonio. They got their duncan, and
then all of a sudden they had to move off
some bench guys and rotational guys, and you look up
and you're like, uh, Denver's Denver surrounded by a bunch
of good young teams and Wemby and SGA, and Denver's
(28:44):
just gonna get one, which is fine. Getting one is
It's more than the Niners have done. It's more than
Baltimore and the Bills have done in the NFL. Getting
one trophy's hard, but they've got a Boston's it's interesting.
New York's for real. Indiana's got an excellent roster and
may beat if they get through it, beat New York. Okay,
see Houston, San Antonio are going nowhere. I mean the
(29:10):
good news I guess for Boston is Yannis is going west.
But I would say Milwaukee's gonna load up on young players.
I think I think Boston's got a Boston issue is that.
I think, like Denver, we looked at them and we thought, Okay,
this thing's gonna last. Then the owner always be careful
when the owner sells, what do they see the owner cells?
(29:32):
Now Tatum's hurt Porzingi's true holiday age very quickly. And
I think Joe Missoula felt like last night, he really
felt second third tier, like he's kind of one golf
club in the back coach, so Adam Silver, he didn't
want dynasties. And you know, Boston's an example. They are
up against it. Their payrolls, what five hundred million they
(29:56):
gonna move off pieces. Here was Joe Missoula on and
just add this in. It's awful, that devastating Jason Tatum injury.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
I mean, he obviously always concerned about someone's health. So
you know it's twofold. We're concerned about his health where
he's at, and then we're concerned about what we have
to do better for Game five. We're gona get back
to Boston.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, he was playing a great basketball game. He was
really aggressive between Brunson and Jason Tatum. You were getting
I was sitting there watching and I'm like, boy, this
is an all time NBA playoff game. This is all
time stuff. The New York crowd is fantastic. Indiana and
New York crowds are nuts. They are Jeff. The Eastern
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Conference doesn't have as good as players or teams. The
fans are nuts in Indiana and New York, and it
was one of those games where you really felt the
crowd was elevating a team, but Tatum, because Prissuer wasn't
playing much, Tatum was really carrying that team. They were
just doing ISOs and when he got a little cold,
suddenly boomed nixt lead by nine shot making. So I think,
(30:59):
I guess is I look at Boston going forward, cross
your fingers on Tatum, But will they become Milwaukee, Denver,
Toronto Raptors where you think there's more, you look up
and it's like we're a one time championship team. Here.
My owner takeaway in this is I thought all year
New York's got to take a big swing. If this
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is how the NBA is going to allow games to
be officiated, physical teams that d up and make shots late.
When New York does not need a big swing, they
may need a tweak. I don't trust Robinson at the
line or Cat's defense may need a big guy tweak.
Bridge has been great, though Brunton's a number one. OG's
been amazing, Josh Hart excellent team player, and Tibbs is
(31:45):
having a great series for New York, So I think
it's more of a tweak for New York. You know,
this Knicks front office for the last three years has
been so patient, and all of us in the media
keeps saying, get Gannis and get k and for years
they would, But this New York Knicks front office is
(32:05):
patient and smart and kind of tunes out the press
and the media smartly, and they are a I mean,
it's you can't watch that game last night and not
I mean, I found myself rooting for the Knicks in
this series. You can't not root for a team that
plays this hard and makes these kind of shops. And
it's very rare when a New York team is a
lovable underdog, and they are. They're one of the great
(32:29):
watches in the league. It's a combination of Villanova, NBA, guts,
dial toughness, coaching. It's hard to turn off.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
By the way, are you surprised the Celtics kept leaving
thirty eight year old al Horford on an island against
Brunson threw a double at I was stunned, and Brunson
is just cooking and left and right he had amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I just their offense. They just started standing around. It's
like it's like, listen, that's when you call a time out.
You've got to you gotta call a timeout, engineer a play,
get a basket because that New York crowd did you notice?
I mean it was like it felt like almost if
you ever go to a boxing match and there's a
home fighter where obviously it's in Panama and it's a
(33:09):
Panamanian fighter, and you can tell the crowd is elevating
the boxer. I mean it was like when you go
to New York and this crowd and they go on
like a six to zhering run, time out, call a play,
get a bucket because that crowd was jet fuel for
the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
By the way, did you see who's leading the Celtics
in points, rebounds, assists and steals in the series.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I wasn't sure if you saw that. No, it's Jayson Tatum.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
No, he was played great last night. He played great.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Is that great series?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
It's had a good series. He had a great night,
a good series, a great night. He was tremendous last night.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
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So uh, I find I said, I don't think Cleveland's
gonna be any good this year. I like their GM,
I love Miles Garrett, Kevin Stefanski. They're not gonna be
very good, but it's gonna be fascinating to watch him
because essentially they drafted a much more talented Tim Tebow.
They have Shaduur Sanders, and he's going to be the talk.
So according to the athletics Zach Jackson, he joined some
(35:24):
something called the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show and he said,
in just throwing the ball, it's not close shador Sanders,
It's not close. He is much better than Dylan Gabriel.
Yes he is. He's much bigger and much better. I
don't know how schaduor Sanders is going to be as
(35:44):
a pro, so much of this is where you land.
I do like Stefanski a lot, but Shadour is six
to two historically accurate, and I have seen him standing
around like people like me, normal sized people. He's big.
He's a big you know. Mahomes is six one and
a half. You never question Mahomes has big hands, big shoulders,
(36:07):
a butt like some guys are six one and a
half six two. Aaron Rodgers is my size. I work
out almost every day. He weighs thirty five pounds more
than me. Why air Aaron Rodgers? You never think about
his size. He's six to one, big butt, big calves,
big risks. You know, Aaron je pro athlete. Kate Cunningham
we talked about earlier with Detroit. Kate Cunningham is what
(36:29):
a pro athlete looks like. I'm gonna show you a
picture of pro day at Oregon, Bo Nicks, Justin Herbert
and Dylan Gabriel take a look at the picture. Sorry,
radio audience, Okay, Dylan Gabriel is noticeably smaller and thinner
than bow Knicks and bo Nicks is not ideal size
(36:51):
in the NFL. Justin Herbert is your ideal NFL size quarterback, six'
five wide, shoulders big, ed big, hands. Legs and, again
it is not to pick On Dylan. GABRIEL i think
he was everybody's talking About shador being. UNDERDRAFTED i Thought
Dylan gabriel was. Overdrafted to, me he's like a six
(37:12):
or seventh round. PICK i think he is a backup
to a backup in THE. Nfl he is a very
very small, guy and he's also a five to eleven pocket.
Guy so the guys in THE nfl that can still
win games in the pocket are six Three Matt stafford six,'
Four jared goff, Six'. Six joe flacco eli, Was six'
(37:33):
five peyton was six five and a half. Or whatever
he was brady is much Taller than me and i'm
six one and a, Half six y two, so it's
it's yes this is Not Somebody. Pulling For shadeur sanders
shadeur sanders. Is A good prospect kenny pickett got drafted.
In The first round shodell sanders a Much Better, quarterback
(37:53):
than kenny, pickett in my. Opinion Much better prospect dylan gabriel,
had a great coach, a great offensive line and, a
great Run Game and yet shoudur standers ran for, more
rushing first downs mostly, running for his life and we
don't consider. Him A mobile quarterback and, I've been saying
this shador is, plenty PLENTY mobile enough and i like all,
(38:15):
the Answers so far What. I've heard, from shadour of course.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
IT'S day by day I just find something i want
to perfect and just perfect it to the. Best of
my ABILITIES and that's how i really focus on, and
just being there, just being a leader, being a GREAT
teammate doing what i need to. Do Whenever it is
so i'm. Just thankful for opportunity things could have. Been
A lot worse but i'm here smiling in front of.
Speaker 7 (38:42):
You all at.
Speaker 9 (38:43):
This facility right now from my job here isn't, to
PROVE people wrong like. I prove myself right THAT'S that's
THAT'S and i and, i fully. Self belief you know
and uh with those people say that.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
That's, Just the, opinions okay so again no, idea if
It works But When, shador AND dylan gabriel and i
wouldn't mind seeing A Few snippets of dylan gabriel video over.
The next several months And this is why shadeur got
drafted later if you didn't see. Him as a starter
people didn't want the t bow noise That We. Saw
in new. York it's a Mess Belichick. Moved off cam
(39:17):
kaepernick those guys are starters or you don't want. Him
in the. Room There's too much but shadur. Is a
decent prospect he may not. Be A great prospect cam
ward was. Clearly the best prospect. SHADAR is pretty good
i want to Go back to the i'm not even
going TO argue that the. Nba lottery is rigged. YOU
whatever you. WANT i don't care i think. It's kind
of funny you do whatever. You WANT to do but
(39:38):
i think there's, been some, talk About you know would
dallas get a yawnis like, they Need more size would
dallas move? The, number One pick listen what cooper. Flag
is is Hope when, they traded luca. AWAY they lost
hope I, Still Contend if kyrie Anthony davis and the
(39:58):
mavericks Were healthy, after the luca trade they would have
been a Dangerous playoff team. Like minnesota level dangerous but
everybody got hurt and it's. A mass AND whatever but
the nfl has always, done a great job where if,
the thirty two teams you always feel like about twenty
seven enter of the year with a, chance to do
something maybe be. A wild card team that's. A league,
of hope in baseball we know there's about eight to
(40:20):
ten teams. That cannot compete financially we know that Most
Of Them In, america international league central they. Just can't
stack up WE know in the nba there's eight to
ten or more teams that are hard to. Watch and
years away because THE draft in the nba gives you a,
seventeen eighteen year old they're years from being able to get.
Into the HOTEL, bar in the nfl it's. The league
(40:42):
of hope you're drafting. Twenty three year olds if you
get the right quarterback with four years of college experience and,
the right coach Boom you can be. Houston playoff team
overnight you Can be a LAUGHINGSTOCK washington. To the, nfc,
championship coach coordinator quarterback you don't even. Need A great
roster But I do think cooper flag is a domestic
product and an eighteen to twenty. Point a game guy very.
Early in his career He creates Hope. IN dallas and
(41:05):
dallas a lot. Of it was overstated they were going
To Be fine if kyrie. Irving Didn't, Get Hurt anthony
davis kyrie irving and, all these big guys they were
going to be a. Playoff team next Year Even in,
the west cooper flag though you can kind of Plant,
that flag in hey we can. Compete now very quickly
so what is interesting Is how here's what i've noticed
(41:26):
in the. Last thirty Six hours i'm told, Jannis is
going West dallas, Now Got cooper flag san antonio got.
The Number two pick oklahoma city's got a. War chest
of picks houston's going, to make Multiple, moves and the
lakers you know they're. Going to BE aggressive that's why
I Said About. The, new York knicks hey let's boston's
(41:49):
got to. Make, Some Moves, here Horford drew, Holliday Porzingis
Tatum's injury is joe. Mizoula The, right guy new york At,
least in the east, Is, a lot close Sir To
being an eastern conference champion minimum than any of us.
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