May 27, 2025 • 53 mins
The holiday weekend is over, summer has arrived and Action Network hosts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter are ready to fire off some NFL bets! Longtime colleague Brandon Anderson joins the show as the trio discuss longshot MVP bets they like, along with the most impact coaching changes, Brandon's disastrous home situation, the Dallas Cowboys prospects and so much more. #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Favorites the podcast part of the Volume
Podcast Network. Iuy am Chad Noman or the Action Network. Today.
I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion,
Mike and Fadre my BFF professional better Simon Hunter L
saw him.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
In Chad right Now hot topic in Philly because of
Sakuon Barkley. He said the Eagles were that pass. The
Eagles team was a top five Eagles or just team
ever to win a Super Bowl. In the list, Chad,
you're nineteen eighty five Bears, which I thought was respect to, uh,
one of the greater teams. I didn't think Saquon would
know about the nineteen eighty five Bears. So yeah, it's
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it's it's a hot topic, and so you know where
I'm coming from that, I you know, I respect that
Bears team, but I'm obviously gonna put my own Eagles
team above that team.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
So yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Fun debating super Bowl winners, obviously, but it's funny enough
that young people even and talk about the nineteen eighty
five Bears.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's not just Chicago people listen that.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Eighty five Bears team. If you're in a football fan,
it's one of the most prominent franchise sort of markers
for any fan, Like it's discussed in any conversation about
greatest all time teams because their defense was so dominant
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in the Super Bowl Shuffle, they had so much personality.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I think it's all the nicknames.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You got the refrigerator berry, you got sweetness in the backfield.
It's it feels like they just had the right time
of like the group of characters with a great defense,
with a great head coach, and you know it just
goes together right, eighty five Bears.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It just sounds like it's meant to.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Be that team. Also, Jimbo Covert left tackle, Hall of Fame,
Walcom Payton running back, Hall of Fame, Mike Dicka head coach,
Hall of Fame, Jim Finks GM Hall of Fame, Dan
Hampton defensive end, defensive tackle, Hall of Fame, Richard Dent
defensive end, Hall of Fame, Steve McMichael defensive tackle, Hall
of Fame, Mike Singletary linebacker, Hall of Fame. Like that
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team literally had seven Hall of Fame players and executives
and coaches, like other than the Steelers, there's no other
team that can match that. The eighty four Niners can't
match that you talk about.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
None of those Dallas teams of the nineties had that
many Hall of Famers.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Troy Aikman, EMITTT Smith, Michael Irvin. I don't know that
they had. We'd have to look it up. But like
the Patriots, you know, they didn't have that many Hall
of Famers. No, the Eagles, how many Hall of Famers
will they have? Like that, Bear's team was dominant. The
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only failing of that Bears team is that they didn't
win more Super Bowls, and that was because Buddy Ryan
couldn't get along with Mike Dicka. He decided to leave.
The defense was never as aggressive after that. They were
upset in multiple playoffs two years in a row. Like
it just it, It was a It was a beautiful,
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gorgeous lightning bug of a team.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Once again. Though I cannot believe that Saeque had him
in his top five.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I just I just thought, respect the saquon the kids
under thirty, the fact that he knows his football history
like that, I just knew you would love that. Where
you know, as an Egos bias fan, I was just like,
I can't believe this kid went back that far.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I did not think Seque had that in his bag,
so I think on his.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
List, I think it was like it was that Dallas team,
that Patriots team.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
What was it? I think Patriots won in seven? Or
was that the undefeated was nine?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think But and then you know, the big debate
with him the other guys he was on the show
with was just talking about these Chiefs teams like of
the past where it's like no one views them as
the greatest team, right even though they almost won three
in a row. So I just thought that was interesting too,
where you know, that's just you know, a kid like
him talking about it when we set him and all
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of his boys are debating it, and I told you
my view of it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
The Eagles team, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
It's always the future as we move on bigger, faster, stronger.
We always talk about that, how it changes things this
Eagles team. I would love I'm gonna probably do it
this offseason because I have so much free time. I'm
gonna definitely simulate it and just see what these two
teams would do against eighty five Bears against the Eagles.
I would love to know what that spread would be.
Well see, maybe I'll do a conferent action first one
in forever about all these past Super Bowl teams, but
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you know this Eagles team igraded them out.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I told you I had got lower grade on them.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Than that Ravens team that lost lash two years ago
to the Chiefs. So it's funny where it's an all
time great team to our perspective because they just you know,
have scored the most points.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Of playoff history.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But it'll be interesting what the data says, because I
think it's going to say otherwise.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Bok Simon. That is one hundred percent a podcast. And
if you think we're not doing that as we get
closer into the summer to fill one of the episodes,
you're freaking crazy. And you and I are going to
be together and we're going to talk about the other
teams on that list for a good time and we'll
simulate who's going to be favored and how that game
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would have played out. The other Hall of famers on
that Cowboys team, Aikman, Dion, EMMITTT Smith, Michael Irvin, Larry Allen,
Charles Haley, plus Jimmy Johnson. Look, I think the Chiefs.
The last thing we'll say about this before we bring
in our guests. I think The Chiefs are going to
have Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Chris Jones, they might have
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Joe Tooney, They're gonna have Spagnolo. I think they're gonna
have Andy Reid. They're going to go down when you
look back as one of the most talented Hall of
Fame teams for sure. And I think they'll be up
there with the Steelers, the Bears, these Cowboys fascinating topic
and good for Saquon, Good for Sakue for affecting the
old gees. We are joined today speaking of an og
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our longtime colleague, one of the most opinionated people at
Action Network. You can hear him during the NBA Playoffs
and Our Buckets podcast and every week during the NFL
season as co host of the Action Network podcast. His
hot reads on the Action Network podcast Sunday Night episode
with Evan Abrams are in valuable. Welcome back to the show,
bran Din.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
And der So, it's good to be here, guys. I
didn't know we were doing some herschel Walcke a talk today.
Herschel Walker basically funded the entire Jerry Jones Cowboys Hall
of Famers. Probably like the best thing the Vikings I've
ever accomplished as a franchise, so you know, repping my
home teams here. Good time to be a Minso sports
fan as allus.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Brandon, I don't know the answer to this question. I
feel a little bit like a lawyer who is being
told to ask a question and he doesn't know the answer,
and that's always dangerous. But Matt Mitchell has told me
I have to ask what is happening at your house
right now? And I'm assuming Matt knows that the rest
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of our audience is going to be tickled by what's happening.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
In your house.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Man, my house is a disaster. So about a month ago,
I get a call from my landlord at like seven am.
So I'm renting a townhouse. There's four townhouses are all together,
we got like the shared four corners. And I get
a call that says, hey, I need you to wake up,
get downstairs, find out if you have water coming in.
The neighbors have called and complained they're getting water. It's
from your house. So I go down. I look, there's
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no water. There's nothing happening. There's no water anywhere. Nothing's
happening in my house. We spend the entire week, I
got an ac guy coming out, I got a heating
guy coming out. We got like people coming out checking
the kitchen, the piping. We got City of Aurora coming
out checking underneath the house, like they're sonar ring down
underneath my house. They're finding nothing. In the meantime, I'm like, guys,
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there are four houses. We share a corner where you
think the waters from check the other two houses. No, no, no,
it's your house. Finally, a full week later, we find
out you'll never believe this.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
It's one of the other two houses.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
They're water heater busted and it's just been slowly leaking
water in the meantime because of that, water has been
slowly like squishing up through my flooring, like another foot
or two further into my house each day. So I
didn't really get like standing water. But it turns out
water being in your house for a week is real
bad for your house. So since then they came in,
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they tore out all the floor or all the flooring,
all the paneling. They'd take out two feet of sheet
rock all the way around. I have no kitchen, I
have no bathroom. On the main floor there is a
bathroom and my one sink in the house is the
upstairs shallow bathroom sink. So I gotta like fill water bottles,
take them down to my refrigerator, and that's what I
can use. But I can't cook. Really, I have just
(08:55):
a refrigerator in my house. I work from home. I'm
at my house house right now, like they are working
below me right now in my house. And this is
just my house. This is what's happening for a month
and counting right now. Current ETA is like July maybe
when I will have a normal functioning house again. It's
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it's been a month. This is where I live. This,
this is this is my life now.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
That is terrible.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
But by the way, by the way, the two feet
of walls missing, just to be clear, those are the
walls separating me from my neighbors. I share a house
with my neighbors. Now the plastic between.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Me and my neighbors.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I get their mills, I get their sounds, I watch
their TV shows. I'm getting everything from that. Can like
crawl into their house if I want to.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
What else is going on in those houses?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Ah, it's a mess.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Signing as a as a real estate owner. This sounds
like a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It does and I would just be happy that he's
not suing me. I feel like this is like the
grounds determination. This guy has broken your contract in many
different ways. But yeah, this the party stick out to me.
You says can be done July, just in time for
you to be done during your NBA season.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I know, like it's ridiculous. No, you're you're a trooper.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'd be losing my shit, but you know that's this
is part of life. This is why as someone that
has been a renter and rented, this is the greatest fear.
Is exactly what he's explaining here, which is just all
shit going wrong and then just falls on you and
you have.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
No other options. But I mean, I feel bad for you, brother.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Well you know how it goes too, Like my landlord's
not even the owner. I got like the landlord manager company,
So I can't even contact the landlord. Their contact with
their insurance. The neighbor who found the water is contacting
their insurance. The neighborhood's house is actually provided the waters,
doing their insurance, My rented insurance doing crap. Nobody will
communicate with anyone else. And yeah, when you're not the
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owner and can't just like figure things out yourself. You're
stuck waiting on like eight lines of communication, and I'm like, really,
right now during the nightly NBA playoffs and like daily
Bucket episodes, this is the time, of course, this is
the time.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
That's all is the time, all right?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Can we get down to business please, because as terrible
as I feel for Brandon, We've got some NFL futures
to discuss. That's the promise of this show. We're going
to play a game. Okay. We all love betting MVPs. Brandon,
you specifically love betting MVP. You just nailed the NBA
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MVP shake Gildes Alexander. You had him at six to
one this past season. Evan has some information on the
most recent MVPs from a betting perspective. We'll have a
two round draft. You can't draft any one twenty to
one or shorter. So that includes the seven favorites, Lamar Jackson,
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Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Jadan Daniels, Jalen Hurds,
and Justin Herbert. They're all between five to one and
twenty to one. We each get two picks. I'm going first,
sign and second, Brandon third, we go back around. Brandon
wants to go last. You're probably gonna throw out a
couple extra names at the end quickly, right, you specifically
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want to go last. I get to go first. Okay, Okay,
So we've got CJ Strad, We've got Jared Goff, We've
got Jordan Love, Caleb Williams. Rock Purty is interesting to me.
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I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go brock Perdy thirty five
to one. And here's my reasoning. We've talked about this
a lot over the past couple months. We love the Niners,
and Simon, we love the Niners. When before the schedule
was announced, we love the Niners even more after our
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podcast with the war and Sharp. I bet the Niners
twenty five to one to win the Super Bowl. And
I think last year was so bad and such an
anomaly for this team because of all the injuries. I
am betting on them being healthy. I am betting on
them having a favorable schedule for the first time in
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probably half a decade because they haven't made it to
an NFC championship game at the least. So I'm betting
on brock perty thirty five to one.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Rock Party off the board. I'm gonna go with Chattery
knows all this. I'm on the Cowboys. How am I
not going to DAK forty five to one? My view
of is this is probably one of the better offense
he's gonna we're playing.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You know, the fact that they went out got a
star receiver to be his number two receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
They know the deal, right you're in the division right
now that you were alert, you were looked at as
a third team, like they know that Washington and the
Eagles are placed above them. To me, this is the
perfect spot to back deck a guy who's coming off
a fluke injury. On the previous season before that, he
was basically second MVP voting. So the fact that we're
getting him at forty five to one in a division
that he's basically left for dead. I mean, though shocked
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to know and listened to the show, I'm all on
the Cowboys, and we already talked about their schedule. If
he goes through that schedule and wins this division, somehow
gets the twelve wins, I could easily see him being
in consideration for that MVP award.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So I like that value here on.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
DAK, that was gonna be my second pick Brandon.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
So those were my two pecks two years ago. That
was my position for the season and going into the year.
I think a problem with both of them. You often
see like the one off candidates. I think they both
had their MVP year. I think the MVP year wh
that year two seasons ago. Dak finished second. Purdy I
thought had a real case to win. You often if
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you were not Mahomes or Alan or Lamar, one of
that level of quarterback, you often have your MVP shot.
You have one shot at it with that one great year.
I fear with Dak and maybe Purty that they maybe
had that year already.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You mentioned Evan.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Evan had the stat that in the NBA, the last
three MVPs Shagist, Alexander, Jokic, and Embiid all three were
six to one or shorter. It's the first time in
fifteen years that we've had three short favorites.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
In the NFL.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
The reason I want to do this draft is because
we often have longer number MVPs. Seven of the last
ten MVPs have been at eleven hundred or longer heading
into the season. So typically if it's just one of
those generational Hall of Fame guys. That's fine that you know.
We're not gonna give you short odds. We're not gonna
give you like a two thousand and one Mahomes or whatever.
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If that's who you want, that's who you want. But
there is a lot of times where you know, even
Lamar wanted at sixteen to one. Matt Ryan was seventy
five to one his year, Cam Newton was fifty to one.
Lamar was forty to one his first time.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
So that's why.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
We like the long shots. I'm interested by Dak and
by Purty. I'm understanding the forty nine ers For my
first pick, I'm gonna.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Surprise myself a little bit. Actually, I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Really love this team or player, but I like the number,
and I like I don't mind betting on being wrong sometimes.
And if I'm wrong, how would I be wrong? Could
it be this version? I've not been in on the rams.
I do not really believe in the rams, but if
the rams are good, Matthew Stafford fifty to one, I
think it was a really interesting MVP pick. Davante Adams
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and Puka Nukua. That's like the best one two punch
receiving corps in the NFL. You got a good running
game with Karen Williams Blake Corum. Second year, they've invested
in the line. I don't super trust the defense yet,
but they're young, they're coming around late last season. They're
a ten win team two years in a row, and
we've seen when the offense is hot, like they can
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beat anybody. They can drop forty points any given day.
And Matt Stafford the thing too. You always need the
narrative here, thirty seven year old Stafford on his last
leg set up for retirement. Is he a Hall of Famer? Like,
we're all going to have that conversation if he's having
a big year and it's a tough division, because I
agree I like the forty nine ers, but if the
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Rams actually can win the division and beat toward the
top of the NFC, I think Stafford at fifty to
one is a real bargain and should be in that
like twenty twenty five range.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
So he's my first pick. I surprise myself.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I gotta say I love that one too. Simon. We also,
I don't know about you, but like my two futures
bets are the Rams and the Niners, and so I
don't have any issue with what Brandon is saying about Stafford.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, that was the first team I think a position
on and I got lucky obviously because they afterwards added
about the Adams and it's like, okay, that was that
was a huge move I needed them to make. But
I love the pick too because I think Stafford was
actually bad last year. Like, I don't think he had
that good of a season. I thought he had a
bunch of injuries that they kind of covered up that
it was ailing him. You saw just a different Stafford
after that Bills game. Right, that game with their offense
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was so explosive. He basically did nothing three or four
weeks following that because I think he was battling three stuff.
So my view of this is the same as what
he just said. It's like Stafford, veteran quarterback primus career,
has the weapons coming off what I perceived as a
down year.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Fifty to one. I'd take that anytime on a guy
like him.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
All Right, my second pick.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Wait, doesn't he doesn't he get back to back?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Are we not doing so let's saying that Brandon's going
last every time? Not doing it. We're not doing a
snake draft. Start my second pick. I am gonna go
with Trevor Lawrence fifty to one. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
That was next pick from me.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I should I should have gone.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I don't love Trevor Lawrence. He hasn't lived up to expectations.
But given the division, given the coaching changes, given the
added talent, how good Brian Thomas Junior was last year,
can Travis Hunter be anything close to what the expectations are?
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He'll certainly have the weapons and the opportunity, and if
he's remotely close to what he was a couple of
years ago when they won the division and made the playoffs,
he's going to be in a position he'll have a
puncher's chance to win this if they end up winning
their division, because everyone is expecting it to be c. J.
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Stroud and the Texans. So, you know, looking for value,
I'll take trem Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
It gets gross once you start getting down here, so
I get really, I just I'm so burned by him
right now.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I just need to see him have a full season
healthy and you know, be competible in an offense. Because
it sounds crazy, but Mac Jones came in and Brian
Thompson Junior played better, and that team looked like they
played better. So that's not you don't want me to
be in the same mindset of saying Mac Jones came
in and did better than you at your job. So
Trevor Lawrence, this is a massive, massive year, and he's
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a quarterback who's very lucky that they are playing in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
If he played in any type of other big market,
this man would be getting crucified almost every offseason. So big,
big year upcoming for Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence. My pick, Chad,
I feel like Brandon talked about it a little bit.
It's that year two quarterback, right, That's where you get
these crazy long shide values, Like one of my best
bets in my career, Mahomes fifty to one. The next
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year Lamar fifty to one. Like that was a really
fun run of these guys making their first year starts,
getting really good long shot odds before the public and
the books caught up to it. I'm looking at this list, Chat,
It's hard to imagine any of these quarterbacks being like
those two. It really is, like, really, Penis is about
to take that next step I can't do it. The
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one guy I can do it with, just because the
odds are so insane. They've come down a little bit too.
Is bon Knicks. I bet this one. He was one
hundred to one, down to eighty to one. Now he's
seventy five to one. It's just really about Sean Payton
in that offense. Like if bon Nicks is who he
thinks he can be, all of a sudden, it really
is an offense that runs through him. This kid throws
for forty touchdowns, runs for ten, maybe twelve touchdowns, explosive year,
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that team somehow wins the division, first time someone outside
the Chiefs wins that division. Bo next to me could
easily win this award, Like he has all the tools,
has the coaching staff. It's just do we really believe
in bon Nicks? Was last year simply a fluke?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Literally the peak of bon Knicks was what we saw
last year? Yeah, that's a risk, but at seventy five
to one, I don't care burning that money. So to me,
I like those long shot odds on a year two
quarterback that potentially the storyline is there to take that
next step and everything you've seen this offseason, him working
on his throwing motion, working on his feet. It's all
there laid out. Is it a flash in the pan
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from last season? I don't know, Cheb, but I like
that number. Seventy five to one.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Two other quarterbacks in his division have odds between five
to one and twenty to one, so he will have
to exceed the preseason expectations of two other quarterbacks, Patrick
Mahomes and Justin Herbert Brandon your last choice for MVP.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, I looked at those sophomore quarterbacks too. We obviously
have the six guys drafted last year. JJ McCarthy is
not a sophomore quarterback. He's basically a rookie, but in
a good position if Minnesota wins. Well, again, we saw
Darnold kind of get like the I don't know to.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
See in the conversation.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
No, he was not, but if you're being talked about
in the conversation, maybe I could see Panics maybe get
into that spot. Drake London, Kyle Pitts, Bijon Robinson, and
again similar to your Trevor Lawrence pick Chad soft division,
very winnable division, very good chance to get to twelve
thirteen wins. If things go, well there, Drake may that
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was my favorite quarterback of the choices last year. I
like a lot of the Patriots, we'll talk about them
in a second. Lawrence was who I was hoping to
take here. So I love that pick. I think that's
as much a pick on Liam Cohen as it is
on Trevor Lawrence. Bringing in the coach that last year
got Baker Mayfield to forty five hundred yards and forty
one touchdowns. If Trevor Lawrence does that and then they
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win the division and get in contention, he's going to
get that Golden Boy bump into the MVP conversation. All right,
I'm trying to decide if I want to make like
a realistic long shot pick or just a long shot
long shot pick, and I'm last I'm doing both. Okay,
Caler Murray, that's my pick. Caller Murray is fifty to one.
This is my more realistic one. Kyler's been in the
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MVP conversation at the midpoint of the season, like two
previous times. He's just tiny and then he gets hurt
and then that's it. But we've just been watching Lamar
Jackson the last couple of years do the thing where
you get the highlight reel runs, you make the crazy
you know plays very like TikTok generation sort of thing.
Just gave me the three or four big plays of
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the game and grab my attention. Kyler's always going to
have that. You now have back to back years tat
McMillan with Marvin Harrison Junior, plus the tight end that
the coaching staff is young, but the team has been
slowly rounding in the form. I'll admit what I don't
love here is it's a tough path to win a
lot of games. You gotta win a lot of games
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win MVP, and I don't know if I trust the
defense yet.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And we've been.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Talking about multiple teams in that division already, so that's
not great. I would love Kyler Murray better if it
was in a more winnable division. But four thousand yards,
twenty five scores, five six seven hund rushing yards and
some scores and those highlight plays, the scramble around makes
something out of nothing. That's the plane. Speaking of which
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similar style player, Chad, You're either gonna love this and
bett it immediately or absolutely hate it and kick me
off the podcast. I'm going off the board two hundred
and fifty to one for a starting quarterback in the
NFL named Justin Fields. Justin Fields of the New York
Football Jets, there is your Lamar Jackson long shot. If
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he starts all year and stays healthy, that's the key.
He could get a thousand yards rushing. He probably will
get a thousand yards rushing and ten scores. We've seen
Lamar Jackson, We've seen Cam Newton probably a more a
better candidate for Justin the Fields running quarterbacks in quarters
sort of sprak the MVP formula. I like what the
Jets did bringing in Aaron Glenn, bringing a new coaching
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staff they believe in. There's a lot of talent on defense.
Glenn can get them back in the right track. There's
Garrett Wilson and Bresee Hall on offense, throw weapons. They've
invested a lot in the offensive line. I think Fields
is an interesting flyer for the team that probably is
going to go very terribly. Probably this will go in
your MVP portfolio and you'll be like, man, I can't
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believe I made that stupid bet, But just in case,
that's what I thought. Three years ago. I bet Trey
Lance because I just wanted any Shanahan quarterback fifty to one.
And not only did Trey Lance not win MVP, he
didn't even start. He got benched and traded and was
like the third string Cowboys quarterback. And it was in
Action app top of my list as my top future
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as the futures guy at Action Network. But the next
year I went back to the well with Brock Purty
fifty to one. He didn't win either, but it was
a great pick and a great value that gave me
a lot of shots later in the season. Fields, if
he actually plays decently and gets his runs and gets
the highlights. Two hundred and fifty to one for a
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decent NFL starting quarterback is just too long for an
MVP pick. We know it's a quarterback. There are only
thirty two of them. That's only if you count like
Cleveland and some of the teams that didn't even have
real guys. So justin Fields is the long shot of
long shots. Chad, do you love me or hate me?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You couldn't even make that whole pitch without your voice cracking,
because you know how absurd the idea really is. That
is what I think of it. I feel like whenever
water is underneath your house has slowly seeped into your
brain because it's outrageous. I do love listen. I love
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the Stafford pick. I like the Dak pick. I like
the Prety pick. Trevor Lawrence is a fun little taste.
I agree with you, Simon, like I was looking at
the odds sort of that we have in front of
us here, I was debating between Drake May and bo Nix.
We're going to talk about some coaching changes, so I
don't want to go too too deep into Drake May,
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soh feels is off the board for me. Kyleer Erray
is interesting. I just think he's not gonna be better.
His team is not gonna be better than the Niners.
They won't be better than the Rams, in my opinion.
So I'd rather invest in the other two. But I
like the conversation. That's a fun conversation. Coaching coordinator changes
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this offseason, Brandon, that you think you love that have
the biggest impact, positively or negatively on Super Bowl future values.
Any way you'd like to slice it, you start.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, I when I get wrapped up for the beginning
of the new football season, coaching and offensive line are
the two areas that I think are the are the
biggest edge. Betters can have big picture on a team
going into a season. Who got the big coaching change
that's gonna help the team? Then raise the floor or
raise the ceiling? Who got the trenches upgrade? And I
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think the answer to both of those questions this year,
Chad is your Chicago Bears. Chicago and Ben Johnson. I
know it's all the hype. I know that Bears are
always the offseason champs. This season, I think it's actually
legit Ben Johnson with the culture change that he's going
to bring to the locker room, with the play calling.
I think with the aggression that he's going to bring
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from the Dan Campbell Tree, I think maybe he was
the aggression, but it's not just Ben Johnson. And that's
part of the reason I love this. You never know
what happens when you go from like the star play
caller to the head coach. Dennis Allen. I love the
rejected failed head coach back to just humbling myself to
become a humble, little defensive coordinator. Again, Dennis Allen's a
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fantastic defensive coordinator and there's talent to work with. There
I'm intrigued to I don't know a lot about Declan Doyle.
He's the new offensive coordinator. He was a tight ends
coach for Denver and the Saints before that. Tight ends
coach is what Ben Johnson was. We're seeing more and
more tight ends coaches as tight ends become versatile weapons.
Are you in line or are you out split out wide?
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Are you receiving? Are you blocking? Like tight end coaches
are kind of touching a lot of parts of the offense,
so they bring a lot of versatility and new ideas
to an offense as well. So look, we know I
just said earlier, I'm a Minnesota sports fan.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I am not a Bears fan, even though.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I live in this area here, the area is buzzing
about Chicago coaching. And between that and the huge investment
in the offensive line and Grady jarr and the defensive line,
like they are pressing all my buttons.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
And I don't know how. I know.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
The schedule is daunting, the road schedule, oh my goodness,
Like you can't really make it much harder than that.
But Chicago's coaching and investment in the line, I don't
know how I cannot be in on this team going ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yesterday I got a text from you know. I've got
my Chicago text chain, and the text yesterday was the
anatomy of the Bears season, which starts with your fans
are excited for the season, season ends in disaster, fans
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sad and depressed. Off season hype videos. So we are
in the middle of the off season hype video fans
excited for the season phase Brandon from your mouth to
God's ear, like, let's let's make it happen. And by
the way, Chicago's got a direct pipeline to God right now,
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so we should definitely, should definitely be taking advantage of that.
There's a great story, I think in the New York
Times today about how long can Chicago hype for the
Pope last? So we're already getting to the point where
we know the hype for the Pope in Chicago is
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not going to last, so we might as well use
it for all we can and try to get as
many prayers in for the Bears before everyone has the
Pope backlash. Simon coaching change coaching, coaching that are positive, negative,
impacting future odds for you.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
First, I want to know how terrified you were when
there feels like there's only one reporter left in this
whole entire world. It happens to be your boy, Seth.
Were you terrified when he texted you, Hey, doing a
story on the Bears?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
You're like, holy shit, this is bad.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You do not want him going around your team, So, likeily,
I imagine that conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Look, we're gonna have Seth on the show to talk
about his book for those For those who don't know,
Simon is talking about Seth Wickersham, who's one of my
closest friends, and he has a book coming out in
the fall in September called American King, The Biography of
a Quarterback. I've read it. It's brilliant. It's so brilliant that,
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like it is sent me into a six week spiral
about the book I'm working on and how can I
make it as good as Seth's. I swear to god,
we've been talking about this. It's so freaking good. And
he's with Caleb Williams in his pre draft process, and
then during his season with the Bears, he goes in
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detail with John Elway, Steve Young, Warren Moon, he goes
back to Wayie Tittle like it is, it is an
amazing book, and I hope everyone buys it and he
will come out and talk about the book.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Simon.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I knew about this already, because you know, Seth had
been telling me about the book for three years. We
had had lunched many many times where he told me
what he had on Caleb Williams. That the news came
out last week from Seth that Caleb wasn't watching film
with Shane Waldron, wasn't getting direction, had really connected with
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Kevin O'Connell from the Vikings, was hoping to get drafted
by the Vikings. Caleb's dad was trying to pull sort
of an Archie Manning and get his get the Bears
to not draft Caleb Williams and get him drafted by
somebody else. This week, Ben Johnson acknowledged all that, said,
we don't mind that reputation. This is what we're here
to turn around. I thought he handled it great. Caleb
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hasn't said anything about it. Seth blew up last week.
He and I were on the phone when he was
in the middle of Allah's media stuff. I was in Lexington, Kentucky.
It's great, It's totally great. I got a text from
my son when I was on the road because all
this was breaking when I was on the road, and
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who obviously he knows Seth very very well. The text
was this shit from Seth is so fucking annoying. All
I'm getting is Caleb Williams hates the Bears in my timeline.
So that's how it landed in my house as a
bear stand.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
And I'm the other way where it made me so happy,
where it's like we all knew something was holding back
Caleb Williams last year, and when you go through the
numbers and just going through last season, it's incredible what
he did. And that's why I'm still well. I still
hasn't have not mud, still have him above Jane Daniels,
and I'm still very excited. And I know that to
me the slam dung higher of the offseason. It's what
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we just said, it's Ben Johnson, right, Like the fact
that he has him now it changes everything and you know,
for me, minds me a little more boring, and that's
how I like it.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Here.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's gotta be Brian Schottenheira, like, I love everything about
this move for Dallas because he is what people view
as Jerry's lap dog and the disrespect he got from
that hire. Even Jerry disrespected in his hiring process.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
What do you call him? The basically called him like
he was never the coach.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Now he is the coach, and he's the cheap version
of Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yes, and I view this as a net positive because
nothing's really gonna change much there. Their offense is going
to be the exact same. But now we have a
guy that to me is already being doubted by the public.
And you mean, I mean Chad me and you made
that joke instantly. I can't wait to better this guy
in the regular season. The playoffs, he just gonna be like
his daddy, Like, that's when we're gonna fade this kid
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when he gets the playoffs. So the jokes are already there.
But to me, the team that jumps out to me
is a guy that you know I talk all the
time as an Eagles fan. I've hate a lot of
our hires the past, one Nick Siriani, who just won
me a super Bowl. You want to head you want
to hate your head coach. That's the best outcome for
most of these teams, For Dallas and their fan base,
I think this is perfect. No one likes the Brian
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Scheiner seat and I are hire they're being doubted. We
talked like, I'm I'm all in on this team. That
one jumped out to me though, of just Dak gonna
be comfortable in this offense. Still, the fact that this
guy is kind of being bashed on by the media.
Those tends to be the coaches that work out, not
the guys that we all love and a door coming
to the season.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Guys, the answer is, Robert Salah to the Etransisco forty
nine ers. As much as I love Ben Johnson and
believe me like I'm all in on Ben Johnson and
Caleb Williams, I think the division is terribly hard. I'm
not quite sure the defense is good enough.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I think they're schedule is just a tragedy and the
NFL should have thought harder. If they're going to put
their highest profile new hire with a transcendent, potentially talent
at quarterback, give him a freaking break in the schedule.
Robert Sala going back to that defense after the just
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mess that was the New York Jets, feeling liberated from
the New York media, from the Johnson family, from the
quarterback drama, that defense when Robert Sala was coaching, that
defense for the Jets was elite. We saw how bad
they got after he left, and he was doing that
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with every obstacle. He was handcuffed by this team. He
gets to go back to San Francisco with a talented
defense and a coach who will trust in him implicitly,
and a lot of guys on that team who remember
what it was like when he was there, and he
was so freaking good and so smart, and the way
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he was so intense on that sideline. He got to
be himself as a defensive coroner. He couldn't do that
as a head coach with the Jets. Give me Robert
Sala San Francisco, forty niners. You guys shake their heads.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, that was my second pick as well, and frankly,
it's a one be more than a number two. We
talked about this just before we started the show. San
Francisco is my very first bet of the new NFL
season to win the Super Bowl next year. I know
you guys are in on them as well. We forget
because it's been a few years now. Number One, the
Jets defense just last year was great with Robert Sala
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then they got rid of him and it fell completely
off a cliff. But he was that good for them
before that.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Though.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
The thing we forget, as much as we give Kyle
Shanahan credit and as good as the offense, Ala says,
their defense actually ranked higher than the offense in the
years that Sala was there. And it's not like the
offense was bad. That's just how great, how elite the
defense was. So you're right, it's not the same names anymore,
but there's still a lot of talent there. They lost
a ton, a ton of injury games last year, so
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just getting back healthy, I think they to me remind
me that the reason I picked them was I alway
was due in like January. Okay, who will be next
year's what's the team where it's hot right now? Who's
next year's Commanders? Who is next year's Eagles? That sort
of thing. I think that the Miners are next year's Eagles.
I think getting that new voice in to lead the defense,
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a new old voice in their case, just like the
Eagles did, and then getting healthy again and a team
that just the stock is too low because of the
way the season ended, just like the Eagles had the
previous year where the Eagles remember fell apart and we
didn't even know we're going to keep next year Yanni,
You're going to fire him, And we even't got that.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
A little bit into the season.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
It was two and two starting out, I think, and
we didn't know if they're going to be any good.
They got to that bye a week and everything is
clicked in the place, and off they went. Obviously, McCaffrey
was out last season. That's the Saquon Barkley of the team.
Getting him back. We say running backs don't matter, but
a couple of them really do matter and change everything
about an offense getting him back in there, getting Trent
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Williams back healthy on the line. I'm not worried about
losing Deebo Samuel. They've got plenty of other options. They
were preparing for that anyway. I think San Francisco to
me is a co favorite in the NFC.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Like I don't even think that they are a sleeper.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
I would just put them with Philadelphia and a head
of Detroit or other teams in the NFC. So I
think the revamp defense, the renewed defense is big there.
I really like Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator, hired in Seattle.
I wanted to be excited about them with him and
with Mike McDonald, and then they were like, yeah, but
we're not really sure we're doing. Goodbye Gino and goodbye DK.
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That was my other Super Bowl bet. I'm already just
kind of counting that ticket as a loss because I
don't know what's happening. They decided they're in transition when
I thought that they had a possible contender there, but
to my San Francisco pick, to our San Francisco pick.
The one thing I did love about it was that
I really like Seattle right there in the division. So okay, well,
Seattle's worst. I guess San Francisco gave a couple easier
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wins in the division maybe as well. So those were
the coordinator names that really caught my eye. That the
coaching names, Simon, I guess I'm proving your point. I
did not like Brian Schottenheimer or Matt Eberflus. I know,
I like the rehire of the defense. These just feel
like kind of retread names that gave up in the cycle.
But that's your point, that's the narrative thing. And it
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is a little crazy that Dak is forty five to
one MVP, as good as he is, as good a
weapons as they have with George Pickens now. So yeah,
I think what you said is interesting. We'll have to
kind of rethink the narrative because it does feel like
a very low spot on perception on the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, I would just say too, the forty nine ers.
The biggest thing, My biggest worry is.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
The Eagles nailed the fucking draft like they nailed the draft.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
So to me, the forty nine ers, that's been the
kind of the Achilles heel these last couple years is
Lynch has not been nailing the draft like he was
in the early twenty twenties, right, And for a team
like them that have to.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Pay these top talent guys, you have to nail the draft.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
So I'm really excited to see what's all I can
do with these young guys, especially the secondary that they
have in San Francisco. So I'm right there with you,
my I mean, we got to talk about it, right.
The best, the best coaching higher to me, is up
in New England, a guy we all love, is it not?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
What do you say, Chad?
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah? I mean, like I just asked you who the
best coaching Hier was. He gave me ten minutes on
Brian fucking Schottenheimer. And now at the end of this
we're going to Mike Vrabel. Of course, Mike Vrabel is
a better higher than Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
I'm true.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Like I'm just thinking, like, do I think Robert sala
is a better piece to get the forty nine ers
over the top and make them more of a Super
Bowl contender? Do I think Mike Vrabel is making the
Patriots a super Bowl contender right now? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (43:00):
There you go, that's right.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
That's why I just think he can change the whole culture.
So that's why I love it so much.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Where it's like he got first over Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
No, because the Brian shine he was so ever left field.
People knew the Vrabel conversation was coming because you teased
the earlier. So I didn't want to start with him
just because people knew it was coming. But it's uh,
it's the move that just jumped out to both of us.
We loved it so much, you know, my sick mind,
I was thinking of all the ways we could get
rid of Sirianni. After that Week four when we were
two and two. I was like, oh my god, fire,
this motherfucker. Bring me in Vrabel, give me Vrabel right now.
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We'll win a super Bowl this season. Nah, I'm sorry,
Nick Sirianni. You're you're the man, uh the Rael.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Well here's the thing, though, here's the thing right now,
If you could have Mike Rabel for the next five
years or Nick Sirianni for the next five bye.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
So I don't like I don't like Sirianne as a person.
That's my issue.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
So I can't the blinds are too blurred, like he
with that whole thing. We talked shit to Eagles fans
and then rather than owning up to it at the
press conference, he brought his kids out chet.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
I was out forever. He just that totally rubbed me
the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
And I respect him as a coach and as a
man obviously, but as just a general person, I just
do not like him as Rabel. As a general person,
I'd be boys with Rabel. I'd pack a dip dip
lip with Rabel. Rabel is that man, that dude. He's
a man's man. And like the fact that you know,
this offensive lineman they drafted was a Will Howard that
he was blocking with him, like getting a feel for him,
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see how he could work his hands in his body.
Oh I love that. Yeah, Like that's the stupid ship.
As a football fan, I just love to hear. So
you know that one jumps out right away where it's
like he can come in put his identity in this team.
Like you just said, Chad, they probably won't win this year, right,
we all agree Drake May is a ton of talent.
He would have to take an insane jump in year
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two because they just don't have the weapons on the
outside in my opinion to really factor into that that
division with the Bills. But crazier things have happened, right,
so you know Vrabel, to me, that's that's the higher
that Newland kept. I feel like they're doing everything wrong
after the Brady air, this feels like the first of
two first right moves right, taking Drake May, then following
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up getting Rable the next year. So I mean as
Anderson's take on it, because you know, I think you
like Rabel as well, but not too many of us
hate a guy who wins us tons of money every time.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
He's an underdog is a better that's right?
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Yeah, I mean he's such an overachiever. So I'm of
two minds on it. I think here's what I want
from Mike Brabel. I would love to hire Mike Rabel
as the head coach on a three year deal, and
then you have to leave and go to a different
team because I think he is a floor raiser, but
I do not think he is a ceiling raiser.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
I think Rabel is the guy you.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Want to bring in, like he bring him in to
remake your restaurant and your business and get that everything going.
But then you need Sirianni to get the super Bowl
after that, like you need innovation and creativity. I don't
love how Rabel manages games, and I know we over
index on that from a fans standpoint. Coaching is a
lot more than that. But I think the way that
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he sets up the team it's very It's what you love, Simon,
That's what we love as football fans. It's old school,
it's smash mouth, it's run first. I think he's perfect
for this Patriots team right now. A little bit of Belichick,
still a little bit of that flavor still, and a
team that just needs to raise the floor. So I'm
gonna use this to launch into We're doing my off
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season hot takes.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put my off
season hot takes all into one take.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
I think the Patriots can be this year's Commanders, and
I think the Commanders might be this year's Texans. Here's
what I mean. Patriots floor raising. That's what we saw
with the Commanders last year. They had a ton of
salary cap and then they spent it on just dudes everywhere,
and I was like, really, like, go get a couple
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real names in here. It turned out the dudes everywhere
making the offensive line much better, just adding veterans on
the defense, Bobby Wagner and Frankie lou Who. Those dudes
raised the floor, and Jane Daniels raised the ceiling, and
the new coaching staff gave them an opportunity that fits
the formula.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Here.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
The Patriots still lack talent. You're right, I don't know
that this is not a Super Bowl pick. This is
maybe a worse to first Division winner pick. I think
the Bills have a little more holes in the roster
then they might look. I know, man, much you won't
like to hear it, but I know he's down on
them because of we were doing hard knocks. We're getting
coming off the MVP season. There's a lot of reason
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that the Bills this maybe isn't the Bill's year. They're
kind of transitioning. Meanwhile, the Patriots add Stefon Digs at receiver.
Not a lot left, but something there back in the division.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
He knows.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
I love Kyle Williams from the draft. I thought he
was a really good pick for there. Another receiver they
drafted Trevion Henderson. You mentioned Will Campbell, the lineman. They
brought in Morgan Moses on the line. They paid big
money for Milton Williams, who was fantastic in the playoffs.
On the defensive line, Carlton Davis probably the best cornerback available.
Just lots of talent everywhere. So Vrabel raised the floor.
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Talent everywhere, raising the floor, Drake May, can you raise
the ceiling? Can you be Jane Daniels this year? And
I don't help out again, not Super Bowl ceiling, but
this to me, this is a screams over this year
as an over team and a possible if they can
get things right. Division push where we talked about fields
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and the Jets, but the reality is They're probably not
going to be that good. The Dolphins are downswing. I
think the Bills are certainly not upswing. So maybe you
think they stay the same, But in the NFL, you
don't usually stay the same. You go one direction or
the other, and I think that they are going the
wrong direction. The Commanders, I think might be this year's Texans,
the team that is all hype.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
We all got excited.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
We watched what was I think five straight one score victories.
At the end of the season. They knocked off the Lions. Congrats.
The Lions were playing the three of us on defense
at the end of the season. Like somebody was knocking
off the Lions. They just happened to be there for it.
They get the big trade for the receiver, Stefan Diggs
for the Texans, Deeba Stamuel for the Commanders. Oh, we
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got the new weapon for our new shiny young quarterback toy.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
That's the star, Well, Lizzie, because CJ.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Stroud was the big sleep for MVP last year and
then he kept sleeping all season long and never really
woke up and had a great season.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Is that.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Jayden Daniels. I like Jade Daniels, but growth is not linear.
You don't just become a superstar and that's it. You're
gonna take some lumps along the way. I wanted them
to continue to add up the roster this year. They
did the big splash. They put everything in on Laramie
tunsel on a trade. Laramie Tunseel was really not great
last season. They're missing Sam Cosmia on the line.
Speaker 5 (49:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
The line got a lot worse than the ear went on.
The defense still lacks a lot of talent. I don't
know if the Commanders are gonna be as hype as
everyone thinks they are. I think they could disappoint like
the Texans, and I think the Patriots might be this
year's Commanders instead.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Look Simon, a few weeks ago, we said the Patriots
at what was it sixteen one or thirty to one?
It was some outrageous numbers.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
No, no, just to win their division, but it was crazy
it was.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
But to win their division, it was like an outrageous.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
It wasn't that. I think it was seven or eight
to one.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I think that was the Titans. I don't know if
someone can look up and put it all.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
That now, because the Patriots are way down brother. Now
they've been bet down since we even talked about it,
Like after I moved.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
I think the time it was pretty long odds whatever.
It was like, the Bills are minus two seventy five
to win the AFC East, and we love the Patriots
and got a little blowback for it. We still like
the Titans more to win the AFC South if we're
looking at sort of worse the first. But I don't
mind what Brandon is saying about the Patriots at all.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
I don't mind.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
But I really love what he's saying about Commanders because
I'm of the same exact mentality of him. It's just
like they they came out of nowhere, shocked the world,
and now everyone's just like, well, that's who they're going
to be now. Jane Daniels, he's a top five quarterback.
This is a team that every year they're gonna win
this division or fight to win this division. It's just like,
what are you just talking about. It's never that easy.
You peak in value, peak in value. That's why when
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we talked about these three guys the Top, the Lamar,
the Mahomes, the Josh Allen, they're the unicorns. They're the
guys every year that get you ten wins, and that's
just not normal, right, there's just ups and down. So
what he's talking about here, this is why I love Dallas.
It's like everyone's all in on the Eagles, super winning team.
Everyone's all in on the you shining New twenty the Commanders.
Everyone has left Dallas for dead. Dallas is no worse
(51:30):
off than they were last year when they were plus
one point thirty at this point to win the NFC East.
So it's just that's why I love this job.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Ched. It's just overreaction.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
It's just last year, the amount of shit I took
for talking about the Eagles being a top three team
coming into the season because ESPN had them ranked twelfth
or thirteenth. It's what do you people want from me?
It's like, this is my job to make a living
doing this. It's it's I'm never biased. I'm happy to
take Dallas right as an Eagles fan. I am happy
to get Dallas. Why because I know it's a smart bet.
(51:59):
It's all about the values here. So everything you just
said about the Commanders, I am. We're on the exact
same page about It's just this this team at everything
break right for them, Jad and Daniels was the best
fourth down quarterback you might have ever seen.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
The issue of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
So much regression is coming to that team. So everything
you just talked about, it's it's it's dead on in
my opinion about the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Brandon, what are the odds for the Patriots to win
the division right now?
Speaker 4 (52:24):
They're the best number out there right now is a
plus six fifty plus plus five six hundred depending on
your book, and a plus six fifty as the best.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
All right, Well, look, we've unpacked a lot of stuff
here today. We've done our hot takes. We've done our
NFL MVPs, We've done our Super Bowl futures. We did
our draft of NFL MVPs. I like it. I like
where we landed. Hopefully, Brandon, you've got your goloshes and
your apartment. Travail's will clean themselves up real real soon.
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I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion,
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saw him.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
In Chad right Now hot topic in Philly because of
Sakuon Barkley. He said the Eagles were that pass. The
Eagles team was a top five Eagles or just team
ever to win a Super Bowl. In the list, Chad,
you're nineteen eighty five Bears, which I thought was respect to, uh,
one of the greater teams. I didn't think Saquon would
know about the nineteen eighty five Bears. So yeah, it's
(00:45):
it's it's a hot topic, and so you know where
I'm coming from that, I you know, I respect that
Bears team, but I'm obviously gonna put my own Eagles
team above that team.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
So yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Fun debating super Bowl winners, obviously, but it's funny enough
that young people even and talk about the nineteen eighty
five Bears.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's not just Chicago people listen that.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Eighty five Bears team. If you're in a football fan,
it's one of the most prominent franchise sort of markers
for any fan, Like it's discussed in any conversation about
greatest all time teams because their defense was so dominant
(01:25):
in the Super Bowl Shuffle, they had so much personality.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I think it's all the nicknames.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You got the refrigerator berry, you got sweetness in the backfield.
It's it feels like they just had the right time
of like the group of characters with a great defense,
with a great head coach, and you know it just
goes together right, eighty five Bears.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It just sounds like it's meant to.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Be that team. Also, Jimbo Covert left tackle, Hall of Fame,
Walcom Payton running back, Hall of Fame, Mike Dicka head coach,
Hall of Fame, Jim Finks GM Hall of Fame, Dan
Hampton defensive end, defensive tackle, Hall of Fame, Richard Dent
defensive end, Hall of Fame, Steve McMichael defensive tackle, Hall
of Fame, Mike Singletary linebacker, Hall of Fame. Like that
(02:09):
team literally had seven Hall of Fame players and executives
and coaches, like other than the Steelers, there's no other
team that can match that. The eighty four Niners can't
match that you talk about.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
None of those Dallas teams of the nineties had that
many Hall of Famers.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Troy Aikman, EMITTT Smith, Michael Irvin. I don't know that
they had. We'd have to look it up. But like
the Patriots, you know, they didn't have that many Hall
of Famers. No, the Eagles, how many Hall of Famers
will they have? Like that, Bear's team was dominant. The
(02:54):
only failing of that Bears team is that they didn't
win more Super Bowls, and that was because Buddy Ryan
couldn't get along with Mike Dicka. He decided to leave.
The defense was never as aggressive after that. They were
upset in multiple playoffs two years in a row. Like
it just it, It was a It was a beautiful,
(03:16):
gorgeous lightning bug of a team.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Once again. Though I cannot believe that Saeque had him
in his top five.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I just I just thought, respect the saquon the kids
under thirty, the fact that he knows his football history
like that, I just knew you would love that. Where
you know, as an Egos bias fan, I was just like,
I can't believe this kid went back that far.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I did not think Seque had that in his bag,
so I think on his.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
List, I think it was like it was that Dallas team,
that Patriots team.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
What was it? I think Patriots won in seven? Or
was that the undefeated was nine?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think But and then you know, the big debate
with him the other guys he was on the show
with was just talking about these Chiefs teams like of
the past where it's like no one views them as
the greatest team, right even though they almost won three
in a row. So I just thought that was interesting too,
where you know, that's just you know, a kid like
him talking about it when we set him and all
(04:11):
of his boys are debating it, and I told you
my view of it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
The Eagles team, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
It's always the future as we move on bigger, faster, stronger.
We always talk about that, how it changes things this
Eagles team. I would love I'm gonna probably do it
this offseason because I have so much free time. I'm
gonna definitely simulate it and just see what these two
teams would do against eighty five Bears against the Eagles.
I would love to know what that spread would be.
Well see, maybe I'll do a conferent action first one
in forever about all these past Super Bowl teams, but
(04:41):
you know this Eagles team igraded them out.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I told you I had got lower grade on them.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Than that Ravens team that lost lash two years ago
to the Chiefs. So it's funny where it's an all
time great team to our perspective because they just you know,
have scored the most points.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Of playoff history.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But it'll be interesting what the data says, because I
think it's going to say otherwise.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Bok Simon. That is one hundred percent a podcast. And
if you think we're not doing that as we get
closer into the summer to fill one of the episodes,
you're freaking crazy. And you and I are going to
be together and we're going to talk about the other
teams on that list for a good time and we'll
simulate who's going to be favored and how that game
(05:20):
would have played out. The other Hall of famers on
that Cowboys team, Aikman, Dion, EMMITTT Smith, Michael Irvin, Larry Allen,
Charles Haley, plus Jimmy Johnson. Look, I think the Chiefs.
The last thing we'll say about this before we bring
in our guests. I think The Chiefs are going to
have Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Chris Jones, they might have
(05:43):
Joe Tooney, They're gonna have Spagnolo. I think they're gonna
have Andy Reid. They're going to go down when you
look back as one of the most talented Hall of
Fame teams for sure. And I think they'll be up
there with the Steelers, the Bears, these Cowboys fascinating topic
and good for Saquon, Good for Sakue for affecting the
old gees. We are joined today speaking of an og
(06:04):
our longtime colleague, one of the most opinionated people at
Action Network. You can hear him during the NBA Playoffs
and Our Buckets podcast and every week during the NFL
season as co host of the Action Network podcast. His
hot reads on the Action Network podcast Sunday Night episode
with Evan Abrams are in valuable. Welcome back to the show,
bran Din.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
And der So, it's good to be here, guys. I
didn't know we were doing some herschel Walcke a talk today.
Herschel Walker basically funded the entire Jerry Jones Cowboys Hall
of Famers. Probably like the best thing the Vikings I've
ever accomplished as a franchise, so you know, repping my
home teams here. Good time to be a Minso sports
fan as allus.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Brandon, I don't know the answer to this question. I
feel a little bit like a lawyer who is being
told to ask a question and he doesn't know the answer,
and that's always dangerous. But Matt Mitchell has told me
I have to ask what is happening at your house
right now? And I'm assuming Matt knows that the rest
(07:09):
of our audience is going to be tickled by what's happening.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
In your house.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Man, my house is a disaster. So about a month ago,
I get a call from my landlord at like seven am.
So I'm renting a townhouse. There's four townhouses are all together,
we got like the shared four corners. And I get
a call that says, hey, I need you to wake up,
get downstairs, find out if you have water coming in.
The neighbors have called and complained they're getting water. It's
from your house. So I go down. I look, there's
(07:35):
no water. There's nothing happening. There's no water anywhere. Nothing's
happening in my house. We spend the entire week, I
got an ac guy coming out, I got a heating
guy coming out. We got like people coming out checking
the kitchen, the piping. We got City of Aurora coming
out checking underneath the house, like they're sonar ring down
underneath my house. They're finding nothing. In the meantime, I'm like, guys,
(07:56):
there are four houses. We share a corner where you
think the waters from check the other two houses. No, no, no,
it's your house. Finally, a full week later, we find
out you'll never believe this.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
It's one of the other two houses.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
They're water heater busted and it's just been slowly leaking
water in the meantime because of that, water has been
slowly like squishing up through my flooring, like another foot
or two further into my house each day. So I
didn't really get like standing water. But it turns out
water being in your house for a week is real
bad for your house. So since then they came in,
(08:33):
they tore out all the floor or all the flooring,
all the paneling. They'd take out two feet of sheet
rock all the way around. I have no kitchen, I
have no bathroom. On the main floor there is a
bathroom and my one sink in the house is the
upstairs shallow bathroom sink. So I gotta like fill water bottles,
take them down to my refrigerator, and that's what I
can use. But I can't cook. Really, I have just
(08:55):
a refrigerator in my house. I work from home. I'm
at my house house right now, like they are working
below me right now in my house. And this is
just my house. This is what's happening for a month
and counting right now. Current ETA is like July maybe
when I will have a normal functioning house again. It's
(09:16):
it's been a month. This is where I live. This,
this is this is my life now.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
That is terrible.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
But by the way, by the way, the two feet
of walls missing, just to be clear, those are the
walls separating me from my neighbors. I share a house
with my neighbors. Now the plastic between.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Me and my neighbors.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I get their mills, I get their sounds, I watch
their TV shows. I'm getting everything from that. Can like
crawl into their house if I want to.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
What else is going on in those houses?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Ah, it's a mess.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Signing as a as a real estate owner. This sounds
like a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It does and I would just be happy that he's
not suing me. I feel like this is like the
grounds determination. This guy has broken your contract in many
different ways. But yeah, this the party stick out to me.
You says can be done July, just in time for
you to be done during your NBA season.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I know, like it's ridiculous. No, you're you're a trooper.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'd be losing my shit, but you know that's this
is part of life. This is why as someone that
has been a renter and rented, this is the greatest fear.
Is exactly what he's explaining here, which is just all
shit going wrong and then just falls on you and
you have.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
No other options. But I mean, I feel bad for you, brother.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Well you know how it goes too, Like my landlord's
not even the owner. I got like the landlord manager company,
So I can't even contact the landlord. Their contact with
their insurance. The neighbor who found the water is contacting
their insurance. The neighborhood's house is actually provided the waters,
doing their insurance, My rented insurance doing crap. Nobody will
communicate with anyone else. And yeah, when you're not the
(11:03):
owner and can't just like figure things out yourself. You're
stuck waiting on like eight lines of communication, and I'm like, really,
right now during the nightly NBA playoffs and like daily
Bucket episodes, this is the time, of course, this is
the time.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
That's all is the time, all right?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Can we get down to business please, because as terrible
as I feel for Brandon, We've got some NFL futures
to discuss. That's the promise of this show. We're going
to play a game. Okay. We all love betting MVPs. Brandon,
you specifically love betting MVP. You just nailed the NBA
(11:44):
MVP shake Gildes Alexander. You had him at six to
one this past season. Evan has some information on the
most recent MVPs from a betting perspective. We'll have a
two round draft. You can't draft any one twenty to
one or shorter. So that includes the seven favorites, Lamar Jackson,
(12:06):
Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Jadan Daniels, Jalen Hurds,
and Justin Herbert. They're all between five to one and
twenty to one. We each get two picks. I'm going first,
sign and second, Brandon third, we go back around. Brandon
wants to go last. You're probably gonna throw out a
couple extra names at the end quickly, right, you specifically
(12:28):
want to go last. I get to go first. Okay, Okay,
So we've got CJ Strad, We've got Jared Goff, We've
got Jordan Love, Caleb Williams. Rock Purty is interesting to me.
(12:53):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go brock Perdy thirty five
to one. And here's my reasoning. We've talked about this
a lot over the past couple months. We love the Niners,
and Simon, we love the Niners. When before the schedule
was announced, we love the Niners even more after our
(13:16):
podcast with the war and Sharp. I bet the Niners
twenty five to one to win the Super Bowl. And
I think last year was so bad and such an
anomaly for this team because of all the injuries. I
am betting on them being healthy. I am betting on
them having a favorable schedule for the first time in
(13:38):
probably half a decade because they haven't made it to
an NFC championship game at the least. So I'm betting
on brock perty thirty five to one.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Rock Party off the board. I'm gonna go with Chattery
knows all this. I'm on the Cowboys. How am I
not going to DAK forty five to one? My view
of is this is probably one of the better offense
he's gonna we're playing.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You know, the fact that they went out got a
star receiver to be his number two receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
They know the deal, right you're in the division right
now that you were alert, you were looked at as
a third team, like they know that Washington and the
Eagles are placed above them. To me, this is the
perfect spot to back deck a guy who's coming off
a fluke injury. On the previous season before that, he
was basically second MVP voting. So the fact that we're
getting him at forty five to one in a division
that he's basically left for dead. I mean, though shocked
(14:28):
to know and listened to the show, I'm all on
the Cowboys, and we already talked about their schedule. If
he goes through that schedule and wins this division, somehow
gets the twelve wins, I could easily see him being
in consideration for that MVP award.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So I like that value here on.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
DAK, that was gonna be my second pick Brandon.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
So those were my two pecks two years ago. That
was my position for the season and going into the year.
I think a problem with both of them. You often
see like the one off candidates. I think they both
had their MVP year. I think the MVP year wh
that year two seasons ago. Dak finished second. Purdy I
thought had a real case to win. You often if
(15:06):
you were not Mahomes or Alan or Lamar, one of
that level of quarterback, you often have your MVP shot.
You have one shot at it with that one great year.
I fear with Dak and maybe Purty that they maybe
had that year already.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You mentioned Evan.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Evan had the stat that in the NBA, the last
three MVPs Shagist, Alexander, Jokic, and Embiid all three were
six to one or shorter. It's the first time in
fifteen years that we've had three short favorites.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
In the NFL.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
The reason I want to do this draft is because
we often have longer number MVPs. Seven of the last
ten MVPs have been at eleven hundred or longer heading
into the season. So typically if it's just one of
those generational Hall of Fame guys. That's fine that you know.
We're not gonna give you short odds. We're not gonna
give you like a two thousand and one Mahomes or whatever.
(15:58):
If that's who you want, that's who you want. But
there is a lot of times where you know, even
Lamar wanted at sixteen to one. Matt Ryan was seventy
five to one his year, Cam Newton was fifty to one.
Lamar was forty to one his first time.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
So that's why.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
We like the long shots. I'm interested by Dak and
by Purty. I'm understanding the forty nine ers For my
first pick, I'm gonna.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Surprise myself a little bit. Actually, I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Really love this team or player, but I like the number,
and I like I don't mind betting on being wrong sometimes.
And if I'm wrong, how would I be wrong? Could
it be this version? I've not been in on the rams.
I do not really believe in the rams, but if
the rams are good, Matthew Stafford fifty to one, I
think it was a really interesting MVP pick. Davante Adams
(16:44):
and Puka Nukua. That's like the best one two punch
receiving corps in the NFL. You got a good running
game with Karen Williams Blake Corum. Second year, they've invested
in the line. I don't super trust the defense yet,
but they're young, they're coming around late last season. They're
a ten win team two years in a row, and
we've seen when the offense is hot, like they can
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beat anybody. They can drop forty points any given day.
And Matt Stafford the thing too. You always need the
narrative here, thirty seven year old Stafford on his last
leg set up for retirement. Is he a Hall of Famer? Like,
we're all going to have that conversation if he's having
a big year and it's a tough division, because I
agree I like the forty nine ers, but if the
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Rams actually can win the division and beat toward the
top of the NFC, I think Stafford at fifty to
one is a real bargain and should be in that
like twenty twenty five range.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
So he's my first pick. I surprise myself.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I gotta say I love that one too. Simon. We also,
I don't know about you, but like my two futures
bets are the Rams and the Niners, and so I
don't have any issue with what Brandon is saying about Stafford.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, that was the first team I think a position
on and I got lucky obviously because they afterwards added
about the Adams and it's like, okay, that was that
was a huge move I needed them to make. But
I love the pick too because I think Stafford was
actually bad last year. Like, I don't think he had
that good of a season. I thought he had a
bunch of injuries that they kind of covered up that
it was ailing him. You saw just a different Stafford
after that Bills game. Right, that game with their offense
(18:18):
was so explosive. He basically did nothing three or four
weeks following that because I think he was battling three stuff.
So my view of this is the same as what
he just said. It's like Stafford, veteran quarterback primus career,
has the weapons coming off what I perceived as a
down year.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Fifty to one. I'd take that anytime on a guy
like him.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
All Right, my second pick.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Wait, doesn't he doesn't he get back to back?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Are we not doing so let's saying that Brandon's going
last every time? Not doing it. We're not doing a
snake draft. Start my second pick. I am gonna go
with Trevor Lawrence fifty to one. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
That was next pick from me.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I should I should have gone.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I don't love Trevor Lawrence. He hasn't lived up to expectations.
But given the division, given the coaching changes, given the
added talent, how good Brian Thomas Junior was last year,
can Travis Hunter be anything close to what the expectations are?
(19:32):
He'll certainly have the weapons and the opportunity, and if
he's remotely close to what he was a couple of
years ago when they won the division and made the playoffs,
he's going to be in a position he'll have a
puncher's chance to win this if they end up winning
their division, because everyone is expecting it to be c. J.
(19:53):
Stroud and the Texans. So, you know, looking for value,
I'll take trem Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
It gets gross once you start getting down here, so
I get really, I just I'm so burned by him
right now.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I just need to see him have a full season
healthy and you know, be competible in an offense. Because
it sounds crazy, but Mac Jones came in and Brian
Thompson Junior played better, and that team looked like they
played better. So that's not you don't want me to
be in the same mindset of saying Mac Jones came
in and did better than you at your job. So
Trevor Lawrence, this is a massive, massive year, and he's
(20:29):
a quarterback who's very lucky that they are playing in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
If he played in any type of other big market,
this man would be getting crucified almost every offseason. So big,
big year upcoming for Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence. My pick, Chad,
I feel like Brandon talked about it a little bit.
It's that year two quarterback, right, That's where you get
these crazy long shide values, Like one of my best
bets in my career, Mahomes fifty to one. The next
(20:55):
year Lamar fifty to one. Like that was a really
fun run of these guys making their first year starts,
getting really good long shot odds before the public and
the books caught up to it. I'm looking at this list, Chat,
It's hard to imagine any of these quarterbacks being like
those two. It really is, like, really, Penis is about
to take that next step I can't do it. The
(21:15):
one guy I can do it with, just because the
odds are so insane. They've come down a little bit too.
Is bon Knicks. I bet this one. He was one
hundred to one, down to eighty to one. Now he's
seventy five to one. It's just really about Sean Payton
in that offense. Like if bon Nicks is who he
thinks he can be, all of a sudden, it really
is an offense that runs through him. This kid throws
for forty touchdowns, runs for ten, maybe twelve touchdowns, explosive year,
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that team somehow wins the division, first time someone outside
the Chiefs wins that division. Bo next to me could
easily win this award, Like he has all the tools,
has the coaching staff. It's just do we really believe
in bon Nicks? Was last year simply a fluke?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Literally the peak of bon Knicks was what we saw
last year? Yeah, that's a risk, but at seventy five
to one, I don't care burning that money. So to me,
I like those long shot odds on a year two
quarterback that potentially the storyline is there to take that
next step and everything you've seen this offseason, him working
on his throwing motion, working on his feet. It's all
there laid out. Is it a flash in the pan
(22:15):
from last season? I don't know, Cheb, but I like
that number. Seventy five to one.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Two other quarterbacks in his division have odds between five
to one and twenty to one, so he will have
to exceed the preseason expectations of two other quarterbacks, Patrick
Mahomes and Justin Herbert Brandon your last choice for MVP.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, I looked at those sophomore quarterbacks too. We obviously
have the six guys drafted last year. JJ McCarthy is
not a sophomore quarterback. He's basically a rookie, but in
a good position if Minnesota wins. Well, again, we saw
Darnold kind of get like the I don't know to.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
See in the conversation.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
No, he was not, but if you're being talked about
in the conversation, maybe I could see Panics maybe get
into that spot. Drake London, Kyle Pitts, Bijon Robinson, and
again similar to your Trevor Lawrence pick Chad soft division,
very winnable division, very good chance to get to twelve
thirteen wins. If things go, well there, Drake may that
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was my favorite quarterback of the choices last year. I
like a lot of the Patriots, we'll talk about them
in a second. Lawrence was who I was hoping to
take here. So I love that pick. I think that's
as much a pick on Liam Cohen as it is
on Trevor Lawrence. Bringing in the coach that last year
got Baker Mayfield to forty five hundred yards and forty
one touchdowns. If Trevor Lawrence does that and then they
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win the division and get in contention, he's going to
get that Golden Boy bump into the MVP conversation. All right,
I'm trying to decide if I want to make like
a realistic long shot pick or just a long shot
long shot pick, and I'm last I'm doing both. Okay,
Caler Murray, that's my pick. Caller Murray is fifty to one.
This is my more realistic one. Kyler's been in the
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MVP conversation at the midpoint of the season, like two
previous times. He's just tiny and then he gets hurt
and then that's it. But we've just been watching Lamar
Jackson the last couple of years do the thing where
you get the highlight reel runs, you make the crazy
you know plays very like TikTok generation sort of thing.
Just gave me the three or four big plays of
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the game and grab my attention. Kyler's always going to
have that. You now have back to back years tat
McMillan with Marvin Harrison Junior, plus the tight end that
the coaching staff is young, but the team has been
slowly rounding in the form. I'll admit what I don't
love here is it's a tough path to win a
lot of games. You gotta win a lot of games
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win MVP, and I don't know if I trust the
defense yet.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And we've been.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Talking about multiple teams in that division already, so that's
not great. I would love Kyler Murray better if it
was in a more winnable division. But four thousand yards,
twenty five scores, five six seven hund rushing yards and
some scores and those highlight plays, the scramble around makes
something out of nothing. That's the plane. Speaking of which
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similar style player, Chad, You're either gonna love this and
bett it immediately or absolutely hate it and kick me
off the podcast. I'm going off the board two hundred
and fifty to one for a starting quarterback in the
NFL named Justin Fields. Justin Fields of the New York
Football Jets, there is your Lamar Jackson long shot. If
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he starts all year and stays healthy, that's the key.
He could get a thousand yards rushing. He probably will
get a thousand yards rushing and ten scores. We've seen
Lamar Jackson, We've seen Cam Newton probably a more a
better candidate for Justin the Fields running quarterbacks in quarters
sort of sprak the MVP formula. I like what the
Jets did bringing in Aaron Glenn, bringing a new coaching
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staff they believe in. There's a lot of talent on defense.
Glenn can get them back in the right track. There's
Garrett Wilson and Bresee Hall on offense, throw weapons. They've
invested a lot in the offensive line. I think Fields
is an interesting flyer for the team that probably is
going to go very terribly. Probably this will go in
your MVP portfolio and you'll be like, man, I can't
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believe I made that stupid bet, But just in case,
that's what I thought. Three years ago. I bet Trey
Lance because I just wanted any Shanahan quarterback fifty to one.
And not only did Trey Lance not win MVP, he
didn't even start. He got benched and traded and was
like the third string Cowboys quarterback. And it was in
Action app top of my list as my top future
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as the futures guy at Action Network. But the next
year I went back to the well with Brock Purty
fifty to one. He didn't win either, but it was
a great pick and a great value that gave me
a lot of shots later in the season. Fields, if
he actually plays decently and gets his runs and gets
the highlights. Two hundred and fifty to one for a
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decent NFL starting quarterback is just too long for an
MVP pick. We know it's a quarterback. There are only
thirty two of them. That's only if you count like
Cleveland and some of the teams that didn't even have
real guys. So justin Fields is the long shot of
long shots. Chad, do you love me or hate me?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You couldn't even make that whole pitch without your voice cracking,
because you know how absurd the idea really is. That
is what I think of it. I feel like whenever
water is underneath your house has slowly seeped into your
brain because it's outrageous. I do love listen. I love
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the Stafford pick. I like the Dak pick. I like
the Prety pick. Trevor Lawrence is a fun little taste.
I agree with you, Simon, like I was looking at
the odds sort of that we have in front of
us here, I was debating between Drake May and bo Nix.
We're going to talk about some coaching changes, so I
don't want to go too too deep into Drake May,
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soh feels is off the board for me. Kyleer Erray
is interesting. I just think he's not gonna be better.
His team is not gonna be better than the Niners.
They won't be better than the Rams, in my opinion.
So I'd rather invest in the other two. But I
like the conversation. That's a fun conversation. Coaching coordinator changes
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this offseason, Brandon, that you think you love that have
the biggest impact, positively or negatively on Super Bowl future values.
Any way you'd like to slice it, you start.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, I when I get wrapped up for the beginning
of the new football season, coaching and offensive line are
the two areas that I think are the are the
biggest edge. Betters can have big picture on a team
going into a season. Who got the big coaching change
that's gonna help the team? Then raise the floor or
raise the ceiling? Who got the trenches upgrade? And I
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think the answer to both of those questions this year,
Chad is your Chicago Bears. Chicago and Ben Johnson. I
know it's all the hype. I know that Bears are
always the offseason champs. This season, I think it's actually
legit Ben Johnson with the culture change that he's going
to bring to the locker room, with the play calling.
I think with the aggression that he's going to bring
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from the Dan Campbell Tree, I think maybe he was
the aggression, but it's not just Ben Johnson. And that's
part of the reason I love this. You never know
what happens when you go from like the star play
caller to the head coach. Dennis Allen. I love the
rejected failed head coach back to just humbling myself to
become a humble, little defensive coordinator. Again, Dennis Allen's a
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fantastic defensive coordinator and there's talent to work with. There
I'm intrigued to I don't know a lot about Declan Doyle.
He's the new offensive coordinator. He was a tight ends
coach for Denver and the Saints before that. Tight ends
coach is what Ben Johnson was. We're seeing more and
more tight ends coaches as tight ends become versatile weapons.
Are you in line or are you out split out wide?
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Are you receiving? Are you blocking? Like tight end coaches
are kind of touching a lot of parts of the offense,
so they bring a lot of versatility and new ideas
to an offense as well. So look, we know I
just said earlier, I'm a Minnesota sports fan.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I am not a Bears fan, even though.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I live in this area here, the area is buzzing
about Chicago coaching. And between that and the huge investment
in the offensive line and Grady jarr and the defensive line,
like they are pressing all my buttons.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
And I don't know how. I know.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
The schedule is daunting, the road schedule, oh my goodness,
Like you can't really make it much harder than that.
But Chicago's coaching and investment in the line, I don't
know how I cannot be in on this team going ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yesterday I got a text from you know. I've got
my Chicago text chain, and the text yesterday was the
anatomy of the Bears season, which starts with your fans
are excited for the season, season ends in disaster, fans
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sad and depressed. Off season hype videos. So we are
in the middle of the off season hype video fans
excited for the season phase Brandon from your mouth to
God's ear, like, let's let's make it happen. And by
the way, Chicago's got a direct pipeline to God right now,
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so we should definitely, should definitely be taking advantage of that.
There's a great story, I think in the New York
Times today about how long can Chicago hype for the
Pope last? So we're already getting to the point where
we know the hype for the Pope in Chicago is
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not going to last, so we might as well use
it for all we can and try to get as
many prayers in for the Bears before everyone has the
Pope backlash. Simon coaching change coaching, coaching that are positive, negative,
impacting future odds for you.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
First, I want to know how terrified you were when
there feels like there's only one reporter left in this
whole entire world. It happens to be your boy, Seth.
Were you terrified when he texted you, Hey, doing a
story on the Bears?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
You're like, holy shit, this is bad.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You do not want him going around your team, So, likeily,
I imagine that conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Look, we're gonna have Seth on the show to talk
about his book for those For those who don't know,
Simon is talking about Seth Wickersham, who's one of my
closest friends, and he has a book coming out in
the fall in September called American King, The Biography of
a Quarterback. I've read it. It's brilliant. It's so brilliant that,
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like it is sent me into a six week spiral
about the book I'm working on and how can I
make it as good as Seth's. I swear to god,
we've been talking about this. It's so freaking good. And
he's with Caleb Williams in his pre draft process, and
then during his season with the Bears, he goes in
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detail with John Elway, Steve Young, Warren Moon, he goes
back to Wayie Tittle like it is, it is an
amazing book, and I hope everyone buys it and he
will come out and talk about the book.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Simon.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I knew about this already, because you know, Seth had
been telling me about the book for three years. We
had had lunched many many times where he told me
what he had on Caleb Williams. That the news came
out last week from Seth that Caleb wasn't watching film
with Shane Waldron, wasn't getting direction, had really connected with
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Kevin O'Connell from the Vikings, was hoping to get drafted
by the Vikings. Caleb's dad was trying to pull sort
of an Archie Manning and get his get the Bears
to not draft Caleb Williams and get him drafted by
somebody else. This week, Ben Johnson acknowledged all that, said,
we don't mind that reputation. This is what we're here
to turn around. I thought he handled it great. Caleb
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hasn't said anything about it. Seth blew up last week.
He and I were on the phone when he was
in the middle of Allah's media stuff. I was in Lexington, Kentucky.
It's great, It's totally great. I got a text from
my son when I was on the road because all
this was breaking when I was on the road, and
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who obviously he knows Seth very very well. The text
was this shit from Seth is so fucking annoying. All
I'm getting is Caleb Williams hates the Bears in my timeline.
So that's how it landed in my house as a
bear stand.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
And I'm the other way where it made me so happy,
where it's like we all knew something was holding back
Caleb Williams last year, and when you go through the
numbers and just going through last season, it's incredible what
he did. And that's why I'm still well. I still
hasn't have not mud, still have him above Jane Daniels,
and I'm still very excited. And I know that to
me the slam dung higher of the offseason. It's what
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we just said, it's Ben Johnson, right, Like the fact
that he has him now it changes everything and you know,
for me, minds me a little more boring, and that's
how I like it.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Here.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's gotta be Brian Schottenheira, like, I love everything about
this move for Dallas because he is what people view
as Jerry's lap dog and the disrespect he got from
that hire. Even Jerry disrespected in his hiring process.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
What do you call him? The basically called him like
he was never the coach.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Now he is the coach, and he's the cheap version
of Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yes, and I view this as a net positive because
nothing's really gonna change much there. Their offense is going
to be the exact same. But now we have a
guy that to me is already being doubted by the public.
And you mean, I mean Chad me and you made
that joke instantly. I can't wait to better this guy
in the regular season. The playoffs, he just gonna be like
his daddy, Like, that's when we're gonna fade this kid
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when he gets the playoffs. So the jokes are already there.
But to me, the team that jumps out to me
is a guy that you know I talk all the
time as an Eagles fan. I've hate a lot of
our hires the past, one Nick Siriani, who just won
me a super Bowl. You want to head you want
to hate your head coach. That's the best outcome for
most of these teams, For Dallas and their fan base,
I think this is perfect. No one likes the Brian
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Scheiner seat and I are hire they're being doubted. We
talked like, I'm I'm all in on this team. That
one jumped out to me though, of just Dak gonna
be comfortable in this offense. Still, the fact that this
guy is kind of being bashed on by the media.
Those tends to be the coaches that work out, not
the guys that we all love and a door coming
to the season.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Guys, the answer is, Robert Salah to the Etransisco forty
nine ers. As much as I love Ben Johnson and
believe me like I'm all in on Ben Johnson and
Caleb Williams, I think the division is terribly hard. I'm
not quite sure the defense is good enough.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I think they're schedule is just a tragedy and the
NFL should have thought harder. If they're going to put
their highest profile new hire with a transcendent, potentially talent
at quarterback, give him a freaking break in the schedule.
Robert Sala going back to that defense after the just
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mess that was the New York Jets, feeling liberated from
the New York media, from the Johnson family, from the
quarterback drama, that defense when Robert Sala was coaching, that
defense for the Jets was elite. We saw how bad
they got after he left, and he was doing that
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with every obstacle. He was handcuffed by this team. He
gets to go back to San Francisco with a talented
defense and a coach who will trust in him implicitly,
and a lot of guys on that team who remember
what it was like when he was there, and he
was so freaking good and so smart, and the way
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he was so intense on that sideline. He got to
be himself as a defensive coroner. He couldn't do that
as a head coach with the Jets. Give me Robert
Sala San Francisco, forty niners. You guys shake their heads.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, that was my second pick as well, and frankly,
it's a one be more than a number two. We
talked about this just before we started the show. San
Francisco is my very first bet of the new NFL
season to win the Super Bowl next year. I know
you guys are in on them as well. We forget
because it's been a few years now. Number One, the
Jets defense just last year was great with Robert Sala
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then they got rid of him and it fell completely
off a cliff. But he was that good for them
before that.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Though.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
The thing we forget, as much as we give Kyle
Shanahan credit and as good as the offense, Ala says,
their defense actually ranked higher than the offense in the
years that Sala was there. And it's not like the
offense was bad. That's just how great, how elite the
defense was. So you're right, it's not the same names anymore,
but there's still a lot of talent there. They lost
a ton, a ton of injury games last year, so
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just getting back healthy, I think they to me remind
me that the reason I picked them was I alway
was due in like January. Okay, who will be next
year's what's the team where it's hot right now? Who's
next year's Commanders? Who is next year's Eagles? That sort
of thing. I think that the Miners are next year's Eagles.
I think getting that new voice in to lead the defense,
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a new old voice in their case, just like the
Eagles did, and then getting healthy again and a team
that just the stock is too low because of the
way the season ended, just like the Eagles had the
previous year where the Eagles remember fell apart and we
didn't even know we're going to keep next year Yanni,
You're going to fire him, And we even't got that.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
A little bit into the season.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
It was two and two starting out, I think, and
we didn't know if they're going to be any good.
They got to that bye a week and everything is
clicked in the place, and off they went. Obviously, McCaffrey
was out last season. That's the Saquon Barkley of the team.
Getting him back. We say running backs don't matter, but
a couple of them really do matter and change everything
about an offense getting him back in there, getting Trent
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Williams back healthy on the line. I'm not worried about
losing Deebo Samuel. They've got plenty of other options. They
were preparing for that anyway. I think San Francisco to
me is a co favorite in the NFC.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Like I don't even think that they are a sleeper.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
I would just put them with Philadelphia and a head
of Detroit or other teams in the NFC. So I
think the revamp defense, the renewed defense is big there.
I really like Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator, hired in Seattle.
I wanted to be excited about them with him and
with Mike McDonald, and then they were like, yeah, but
we're not really sure we're doing. Goodbye Gino and goodbye DK.
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That was my other Super Bowl bet. I'm already just
kind of counting that ticket as a loss because I
don't know what's happening. They decided they're in transition when
I thought that they had a possible contender there, but
to my San Francisco pick, to our San Francisco pick.
The one thing I did love about it was that
I really like Seattle right there in the division. So okay, well,
Seattle's worst. I guess San Francisco gave a couple easier
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wins in the division maybe as well. So those were
the coordinator names that really caught my eye. That the
coaching names, Simon, I guess I'm proving your point. I
did not like Brian Schottenheimer or Matt Eberflus. I know,
I like the rehire of the defense. These just feel
like kind of retread names that gave up in the cycle.
But that's your point, that's the narrative thing. And it
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is a little crazy that Dak is forty five to
one MVP, as good as he is, as good a
weapons as they have with George Pickens now. So yeah,
I think what you said is interesting. We'll have to
kind of rethink the narrative because it does feel like
a very low spot on perception on the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, I would just say too, the forty nine ers.
The biggest thing, My biggest worry is.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
The Eagles nailed the fucking draft like they nailed the draft.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
So to me, the forty nine ers, that's been the
kind of the Achilles heel these last couple years is
Lynch has not been nailing the draft like he was
in the early twenty twenties, right, And for a team
like them that have to.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Pay these top talent guys, you have to nail the draft.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
So I'm really excited to see what's all I can
do with these young guys, especially the secondary that they
have in San Francisco. So I'm right there with you,
my I mean, we got to talk about it, right.
The best, the best coaching higher to me, is up
in New England, a guy we all love, is it not?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
What do you say, Chad?
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah? I mean, like I just asked you who the
best coaching Hier was. He gave me ten minutes on
Brian fucking Schottenheimer. And now at the end of this
we're going to Mike Vrabel. Of course, Mike Vrabel is
a better higher than Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
I'm true.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Like I'm just thinking, like, do I think Robert sala
is a better piece to get the forty nine ers
over the top and make them more of a Super
Bowl contender? Do I think Mike Vrabel is making the
Patriots a super Bowl contender right now? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (43:00):
There you go, that's right.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
That's why I just think he can change the whole culture.
So that's why I love it so much.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Where it's like he got first over Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
No, because the Brian shine he was so ever left field.
People knew the Vrabel conversation was coming because you teased
the earlier. So I didn't want to start with him
just because people knew it was coming. But it's uh,
it's the move that just jumped out to both of us.
We loved it so much, you know, my sick mind,
I was thinking of all the ways we could get
rid of Sirianni. After that Week four when we were
two and two. I was like, oh my god, fire,
this motherfucker. Bring me in Vrabel, give me Vrabel right now.
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We'll win a super Bowl this season. Nah, I'm sorry,
Nick Sirianni. You're you're the man, uh the Rael.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Well here's the thing, though, here's the thing right now,
If you could have Mike Rabel for the next five
years or Nick Sirianni for the next five bye.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
So I don't like I don't like Sirianne as a person.
That's my issue.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
So I can't the blinds are too blurred, like he
with that whole thing. We talked shit to Eagles fans
and then rather than owning up to it at the
press conference, he brought his kids out chet.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
I was out forever. He just that totally rubbed me
the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
And I respect him as a coach and as a
man obviously, but as just a general person, I just
do not like him as Rabel. As a general person,
I'd be boys with Rabel. I'd pack a dip dip
lip with Rabel. Rabel is that man, that dude. He's
a man's man. And like the fact that you know,
this offensive lineman they drafted was a Will Howard that
he was blocking with him, like getting a feel for him,
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see how he could work his hands in his body.
Oh I love that. Yeah, Like that's the stupid ship.
As a football fan, I just love to hear. So
you know that one jumps out right away where it's
like he can come in put his identity in this team.
Like you just said, Chad, they probably won't win this year, right,
we all agree Drake May is a ton of talent.
He would have to take an insane jump in year
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two because they just don't have the weapons on the
outside in my opinion to really factor into that that
division with the Bills. But crazier things have happened, right,
so you know Vrabel, to me, that's that's the higher
that Newland kept. I feel like they're doing everything wrong
after the Brady air, this feels like the first of
two first right moves right, taking Drake May, then following
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up getting Rable the next year. So I mean as
Anderson's take on it, because you know, I think you
like Rabel as well, but not too many of us
hate a guy who wins us tons of money every time.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
He's an underdog is a better that's right?
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Yeah, I mean he's such an overachiever. So I'm of
two minds on it. I think here's what I want
from Mike Brabel. I would love to hire Mike Rabel
as the head coach on a three year deal, and
then you have to leave and go to a different
team because I think he is a floor raiser, but
I do not think he is a ceiling raiser.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
I think Rabel is the guy you.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Want to bring in, like he bring him in to
remake your restaurant and your business and get that everything going.
But then you need Sirianni to get the super Bowl
after that, like you need innovation and creativity. I don't
love how Rabel manages games, and I know we over
index on that from a fans standpoint. Coaching is a
lot more than that. But I think the way that
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he sets up the team it's very It's what you love, Simon,
That's what we love as football fans. It's old school,
it's smash mouth, it's run first. I think he's perfect
for this Patriots team right now. A little bit of Belichick,
still a little bit of that flavor still, and a
team that just needs to raise the floor. So I'm
gonna use this to launch into We're doing my off
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season hot takes.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put my off
season hot takes all into one take.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
I think the Patriots can be this year's Commanders, and
I think the Commanders might be this year's Texans. Here's
what I mean. Patriots floor raising. That's what we saw
with the Commanders last year. They had a ton of
salary cap and then they spent it on just dudes everywhere,
and I was like, really, like, go get a couple
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real names in here. It turned out the dudes everywhere
making the offensive line much better, just adding veterans on
the defense, Bobby Wagner and Frankie lou Who. Those dudes
raised the floor, and Jane Daniels raised the ceiling, and
the new coaching staff gave them an opportunity that fits
the formula.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Here.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
The Patriots still lack talent. You're right, I don't know
that this is not a Super Bowl pick. This is
maybe a worse to first Division winner pick. I think
the Bills have a little more holes in the roster
then they might look. I know, man, much you won't
like to hear it, but I know he's down on
them because of we were doing hard knocks. We're getting
coming off the MVP season. There's a lot of reason
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that the Bills this maybe isn't the Bill's year. They're
kind of transitioning. Meanwhile, the Patriots add Stefon Digs at receiver.
Not a lot left, but something there back in the division.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
He knows.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
I love Kyle Williams from the draft. I thought he
was a really good pick for there. Another receiver they
drafted Trevion Henderson. You mentioned Will Campbell, the lineman. They
brought in Morgan Moses on the line. They paid big
money for Milton Williams, who was fantastic in the playoffs.
On the defensive line, Carlton Davis probably the best cornerback available.
Just lots of talent everywhere. So Vrabel raised the floor.
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Talent everywhere, raising the floor, Drake May, can you raise
the ceiling? Can you be Jane Daniels this year? And
I don't help out again, not Super Bowl ceiling, but
this to me, this is a screams over this year
as an over team and a possible if they can
get things right. Division push where we talked about fields
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and the Jets, but the reality is They're probably not
going to be that good. The Dolphins are downswing. I
think the Bills are certainly not upswing. So maybe you
think they stay the same, But in the NFL, you
don't usually stay the same. You go one direction or
the other, and I think that they are going the
wrong direction. The Commanders, I think might be this year's Texans,
the team that is all hype.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
We all got excited.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
We watched what was I think five straight one score victories.
At the end of the season. They knocked off the Lions. Congrats.
The Lions were playing the three of us on defense
at the end of the season. Like somebody was knocking
off the Lions. They just happened to be there for it.
They get the big trade for the receiver, Stefan Diggs
for the Texans, Deeba Stamuel for the Commanders. Oh, we
(49:02):
got the new weapon for our new shiny young quarterback toy.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
That's the star, Well, Lizzie, because CJ.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Stroud was the big sleep for MVP last year and
then he kept sleeping all season long and never really
woke up and had a great season.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Is that.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Jayden Daniels. I like Jade Daniels, but growth is not linear.
You don't just become a superstar and that's it. You're
gonna take some lumps along the way. I wanted them
to continue to add up the roster this year. They
did the big splash. They put everything in on Laramie
tunsel on a trade. Laramie Tunseel was really not great
last season. They're missing Sam Cosmia on the line.
Speaker 5 (49:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
The line got a lot worse than the ear went on.
The defense still lacks a lot of talent. I don't
know if the Commanders are gonna be as hype as
everyone thinks they are. I think they could disappoint like
the Texans, and I think the Patriots might be this
year's Commanders instead.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Look Simon, a few weeks ago, we said the Patriots
at what was it sixteen one or thirty to one?
It was some outrageous numbers.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
No, no, just to win their division, but it was crazy
it was.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
But to win their division, it was like an outrageous.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
It wasn't that. I think it was seven or eight
to one.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I think that was the Titans. I don't know if
someone can look up and put it all.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
That now, because the Patriots are way down brother. Now
they've been bet down since we even talked about it,
Like after I moved.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
I think the time it was pretty long odds whatever.
It was like, the Bills are minus two seventy five
to win the AFC East, and we love the Patriots
and got a little blowback for it. We still like
the Titans more to win the AFC South if we're
looking at sort of worse the first. But I don't
mind what Brandon is saying about the Patriots at all.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
I don't mind.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
But I really love what he's saying about Commanders because
I'm of the same exact mentality of him. It's just
like they they came out of nowhere, shocked the world,
and now everyone's just like, well, that's who they're going
to be now. Jane Daniels, he's a top five quarterback.
This is a team that every year they're gonna win
this division or fight to win this division. It's just like,
what are you just talking about. It's never that easy.
You peak in value, peak in value. That's why when
(51:07):
we talked about these three guys the Top, the Lamar,
the Mahomes, the Josh Allen, they're the unicorns. They're the
guys every year that get you ten wins, and that's
just not normal, right, there's just ups and down. So
what he's talking about here, this is why I love Dallas.
It's like everyone's all in on the Eagles, super winning team.
Everyone's all in on the you shining New twenty the Commanders.
Everyone has left Dallas for dead. Dallas is no worse
(51:30):
off than they were last year when they were plus
one point thirty at this point to win the NFC East.
So it's just that's why I love this job.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Ched. It's just overreaction.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
It's just last year, the amount of shit I took
for talking about the Eagles being a top three team
coming into the season because ESPN had them ranked twelfth
or thirteenth. It's what do you people want from me?
It's like, this is my job to make a living
doing this. It's it's I'm never biased. I'm happy to
take Dallas right as an Eagles fan. I am happy
to get Dallas. Why because I know it's a smart bet.
(51:59):
It's all about the values here. So everything you just
said about the Commanders, I am. We're on the exact
same page about It's just this this team at everything
break right for them, Jad and Daniels was the best
fourth down quarterback you might have ever seen.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
The issue of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
So much regression is coming to that team. So everything
you just talked about, it's it's it's dead on in
my opinion about the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Brandon, what are the odds for the Patriots to win
the division right now?
Speaker 4 (52:24):
They're the best number out there right now is a
plus six fifty plus plus five six hundred depending on
your book, and a plus six fifty as the best.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
All right, Well, look, we've unpacked a lot of stuff
here today. We've done our hot takes. We've done our
NFL MVPs, We've done our Super Bowl futures. We did
our draft of NFL MVPs. I like it. I like
where we landed. Hopefully, Brandon, you've got your goloshes and
your apartment. Travail's will clean themselves up real real soon.
(52:56):
Brandon Anderson, thank you for joining everyone listening to Brandon
on Buckets throughout the rest of the NBA Playoffs. Simon
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