May 28, 2025 • 32 mins
Colin talks to FOX Sports CFB Reporter Bruce Feldman about USC playing in the Big 10, their QB situation, the college football playoff, Deion Sanders going forward and more
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, it has been a monumental last I don't know,
eighteen months to two years in college football with significant changes,
and I think you have to rethink everything. They're still
going to be. College football still has the best rivalries
of any sport, but not all of them will remain intact,
one of them being USC Notre Dame, where USC looks
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at it right now and is pushing back on not
wanting another potential late November game and bad weather. They
would like that earlier in the year, and they're pushing
back on Notre Dame. The Irish need the game because
they're not in a conference much more than USC does.
And Bruce Feldman, who covers college football for Fox, is
now joining US Live, and my takeaway on that has
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always been listen the conference USC used to play in
no longer exists. You can pay high school football players.
We've got to get over this sort of sentimentality. But
it is strong bruce with USC Notre Dame. It is really.
Notre Dame loves it because they can recruit in California. Like,
I get it. Your take on USC's tacked, which is
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we can take it or leave it. How's that land
for you?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
No, I think if you're USC, you have a lot
of pride in your traditions. I don't think you want
to be the one who lets this rival relapse. By
the way, Colin, it's like, just looking back at this,
we can talk about what it takes to get into
the playoff. Last year, basically, USC played in its first
year in the Big Ten, played two teams that ended
up ranked in the top twenty five. That's it too,
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And one of them, by the way, was Notre Dame.
When they were in the Pac twelve. The year before
they played three. The year before that they played four.
So the idea that they're gone to the Big ten
and the Big ten is so stacked. You know, yeah,
there's more teams in it, but you're not playing everybody
in the Big Ten. So I think, as somebody who's
lived out here, for twenty plus years.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Know a lot of USC people.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
USC is not They've taken pride in that they're not Arizona,
they're not Ucla, they're not you know, they're different. They
were not playing FCS programs. I don't think that this
should be like a, oh, we got to do this
because it gives ourselves the best chance to make it
into the playoff. If you're good, you're going to make
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the playoff. If you're not very good, you know you
squeezing by against Minnesota and Wisconsin and UCLA and Purdue.
You know it's not going to carry water. I mean,
this is not this. It's different than it is. Let's
say in the argument.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Now with the.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
SEC, they're playing a lot more high level teams. I
think this is not a great This is a very
un USC move for USC from based on what I
feel like, what makes that place special.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It's the tradition.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Before I get to the big ten and Sark and
archs Manning. Let's stay on USC. They're over under a
seven and a half. Vegas Draft kings are usually pretty
accurate at this stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
They do have size they haven't had in a long time.
I don't love their quarterback position. Let's say Lincoln Riley
goes eight and five. I know the buyout's extensive, but
I mean most of your great coaches turn it around
in year two, especially with a transfer portal. We don't
know if Lincoln's a culture builder. We know he knows offense,
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what if he goes eight and five does he last?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think the part which is tricky on predicting that
is what happens. They have a really good recruiting class
as of right now. How many of those kids end
up signing with USC? To me, that's a big piece.
And if you're not a top fIF fifteen, top twenty
team and Georgia or Ohio State come back in on
those recruits, then do they end up coming here?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Like?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Because the way I look at it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Right now, there is not a lot of momentum at USC.
I mean you just said it over under is seven
and a half. I think right now they have a
couple of really big time receivers. Kamari Ramsey's a really
good dB. But this is not like a very very
talented USC team. No one's talking about Mayava Jaden Mayava,
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who came from UNLV as a guy who's going to
be a first round kind of quarterback. There's some potential there,
but right now, I don't think anybody looks at this
team and says, oh, they're a playoff team. They're not
very good on the offensive line. They're okay on the
d line, but they're not great and you don't see
a lot of like except for maybe Jacoby Lane, Makaia Lemon.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
The receivers.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Those guys are big time guys, but I feel like
right now they're just struggling to get momentum. And if
you throw in another eight and five and that eight
and five would would that include being seven and five
and winning a bowl game? I just think it's it's
a hard sell now. The buyout is enormous. That is
a deal that the old regime did that Jen Cohen
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got stuck with. And you wonder where will the money
come from. This isn't Texas A and M where they
got Jimbo Fisher out, But like we're talking about a
buyout that's going to be around eighty million dollars in
that range. Are people going to step up to pay
that kind of money if they feel like this isn't
going the direction we wanted it to go. I mean
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It's a really interesting subject because, like I agree with you,
Lincoln's a really good offensive coach. But when he was
at oh you he stepped in and took over for
Bob Stoops, and there was a lot of big pieces
in place.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
This was not this way.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
The athletic department, I feel like is in a big
transition mode and it just doesn't feel like they've ever
been able to get momentum for the first year when
Caleb was there and they had a good run, and
then all of a sudden it started to backslide.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know. It's Brian Kelly said today at SEC Media Days.
He said, I can speak for the room. The Big
Ten has it on us. Michigan, Ohio, State of won Natties,
Penn State's favored to potentially win a third straight. What
do you think is the primary reason? I have my
own theories. I'll let you start on why. Clearly, when
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I watched Big Ten football and SEC football over the
last two years, Clearly, to me, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn
State have as good or better athletes than the SEC.
I did not feel that three years ago with Georgia
and Bama. Why does it? What was the impetus for
the big change.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Well, I think you start with Ohio State. They're different.
They're more like an SEC school in terms of how
they recruit than they are like a Big Ten school.
I mean they always if you look in the last decade,
I mean you see it in all the guys in
the NFL. I mean that was they're different, right, And
so you have guys with track records, I mean receivers.
You go with the guys Brian Hartline has developed there,
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and then you add a Jeremiah Smith who's a generational
talent who's better than all the ones that they've had there.
When you get to Michigan, I think it really had
a lot to do with how Jim Harbaugh developed players.
They were going to practice, be physical, and so you
had a lot of that where they were able to
retain talent and a lot of guys on that national
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title team came back for one more year. I mean
the bottom fell out on them last year. They were
an awful offensive team. They still had some good defensive
players and we saw that reflected in the draft.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
But I feel like that was different.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And now where we're at with Penn State, very talented
James Franklin has recruited similar to what Ohio State has
like an SEC program.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
So I think because of that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
You have, let you know, they're different than whereas in
the SEC you probably have seven or eight schools that
aren't that different.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
In the Big Ten, I feel like you have two
or three.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
We'll throw Oregon in there because they have recruited exceptionally
well and we saw that last year. But the rest
of the Big Ten, when you start talking about Nebraska,
Wisconsin fell off, Maryland, Rutgers, they don't.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
They're not at the level.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Of let's say where ole Miss is, where South Carolina is.
South Carolina has a bunch of guys who were former
five star recruits, and they had a really good year
last year. They didn't make the playoff, but they were
a dangerous team.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Ole Miss went all in the portal. They spent a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You see what they did for Lane Kiff, and they
were a team that was a playoff contender. They beat
Georgia right, they didn't beat Florida when they needed to,
but they were a dangerous team. So I think in
that there's just to me, there's a top group of
teams in the Big Ten that are like SEC teams,
and then after that there's a big there's a I
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feel like there's a pretty sizable drop off.
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Speaker 1 (09:07):
Belichick and UNC. So here's where I offend him. Forget
the personal stuff for a second, although I think it's entertaining,
is that when you're a basketball school, how do you
catch Clemson? Well, you have to be a disruptor. So
Clemson's like, we're not going to do the nil thing,
and that's an opening, and so they say, we're gonna
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do a pro model. We're gonna go total pro model,
Lombardi Belichick. It's like when Oregon was looking up at
USC and Washington, Phil Knight said, forget tradition, we're gonna
have a thousand uniforms. We're gonna go the opposite of Washington,
Penn State and USC and Michigan, and we're gonna recruit
California and we're gonna be crazy and motorcycles on the field.
They were a disruptor, Chip Kelly, We're gonna play call
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every thirteen seconds, no huddles, that's how they're a power.
So I look at Carolina saying, listen, we're a basketball school.
Let's do the opposite of Clemson. It's the only way
we can catch up to that brand, to that facility
is we are now officially a total pro model. And
if that's the case, then Jordan Hudson, she's a social currency.
It doesn't bother me. Do you think when you're around
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college sports and you talk to your sources, what do
they make of Belichick and Carolina, Jordan Hudson, what do
they make of the whole thing?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I think they don't know what to make of the
Jordan Hudson piece of this, because we're talking about a
guy who's in his seventies and a woman who's in
her twenties. And I think people were hesitant to go
talk about it a lot publicly until the CBS Sunday
Morning interview and it became like kind of odd. And
there were some other things where it just it just
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seemed a little out of character for Belichick, where it
was always focused on football and now all of asden
you get he's promoting a book, and I think some
of the things that came with it were a.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Little just bizarre.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
The part where I think there's real buy in is
he's the greatest football coach in the history of the NFL.
He's not Chan Gaily, He's not one of these guys
who did both and came back like he's the greatest
football coach. He's brilliant when it comes to offense and defense,
strategically and development. I could see why kids would want
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to play for him. You totally get it. They went
in the portal late in the spring. They got a
really good quarterback from South Alabama, Joe Lopez. I think
he'll be a good fit for them. I think he
will help them. And the part that where I'm fascinated
by them is he's in the ACC. He's not in
that Big ten. He's not in the SEC. So most
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of these games take Clemson out of it for a bit.
But most of the teams they're playing, they're kind of
toss up games, right because I feel like there's there's
a lot of talent that's basically in the same level.
There's not a ton of difference makers on the field
in those ACC games. If you're better prepared and you
execute better, you can win them.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
He could get.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Them to nine and three, eight and four, and remember
Mac Brown had some good teams. Now a bunch of
those kids ended up leaving already. But I'm fascinated to
see how this goes. I'm not as fascinated as I was,
let's say, when Dion was there, because Dion was just
such a force of nature and he was more compelling.
This is a little this is a little bit different,
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but it's still very interesting because it's like an interesting experiment.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
By the way, I want to talk Dion for a second.
Two years. But a five hundred coach, his son is gone,
his sons are gone, Travis Hunter's gone. Where are they?
I mean, he's made them relevant, but the big ten
in the SEC run the sport and then maybe Clemson
on the outside. What do you expect going forward now
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that all the flash, now that his sun's gone, what
is Colorado and Dion going forward?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, we can say as a five hundred coach, but
I think in fairness to them, we got to point
out they were one in eleven before he show up.
They were horrible. So he made them not only nationally relevant,
but they were a top twenty five team last year. Now,
a lot of that certainly was you had a really
good quarterback his son. You had some really good receivers
and a generational two way player in Travis Hunter. They
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still have a few good players around there. You know,
he upgraded the offensive line. You got a former five
star offensive tackle in Jordan Seaton. I think he's going
to be a you know, future NFL player.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
They have. I feel like they have taken some of
the momentum.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
The question is going to be, you had some guys
who could just flat out win games, and they were
close games.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
You know, they have a former quarterback recruit who was
an Elite eleven kid, Julian Lewis, who was committed SC.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Now he's there.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
He's competing with Caden Salter, who was a really good
running quarterback at Liberty. I think they will be different,
but again, they're in the Big twelve. I think they
can compete with with anybody in that league. I think
there'll be pretty solid in the trenches, which they weren't
when he first got there. I think they can at
least be Bowl l eligible and then we'll see, you know,
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the next step if he can get some of those big,
big difference makers that he had that he brought with
him from Jackson State.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Finally, I don't think there's a quarterback. I certainly don't
remember Andrew Luck was obviously great, but he wasn't He
wasn't flashy. It was Stanford. I don't remember an arch Manning.
And Tibo was great, but he wasn't really view. He
was collegiate arch Manning, his family's American football royalty. I mean,
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he's I thought he was better than quin yours. Didn't
say a word played back up. I've never seen a
quarterback hype to this level. I kind of buy that
he is good the little bit i've seen. He's athletic,
he's got a nice arm, he's apparently gotten stronger. It
puts a lot of pressure on Sark who you know.
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I mean, let's let's be honest. The downside to arch
Manning is you've got arch Manning and people want you
to go twelve and one in the Sea in Texas
has a to schedule. They opened with Ohio State. What
are your realistic expectations for Archsmanning this year where we'll
be comfortable, What do you expect to see?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I expect him to be a playoff team.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't know if they're going to be the team
that's you know, in the national title game. Because here's
the thing they've lost. They lost a first round receiver
in Matthew Golden. They lost for starting offensive linemen, I mean,
including both tackles.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
That's a lot to replace.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I think they'll be really good on defense, even though
they lost Jadai Barron, who is a first round pick.
And but I think they'll be good up front on defense.
And I expect him to live This is crazy to
say it because the hype is so big, but I
do expect him to live up to the hype. You
will see wow plays. Now, keep in mind he has
not played that much college football. He started a couple
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of games. He is, to me, definitely more talented than
Quinn Hewers. He is a much better athlete. The guys
I know inside the Texas program have raved about Arch
in terms of his football savvy, his playmaking ability, what
he is character wise. I think Sark is a really
good fit for him. I don't know if they, you know,
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go in that's gonna be our game. We're going to
be in Columbus for big noon and can't wait. That's
going to be a really big matchup. I expect him
to be really good. I don't know if we're going
to say, oh, he's gonna win the Heisman. I don't
want to put that on him. I also don't want
to say he's going to be the first pick in
the draft, you know, eleven months from now.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I think he has that kind of talent.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Though.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
The comparison to Andrew Luck is interesting because Andrew, to me,
was as close to can't miss as we had seen
coming out of college. He was big, he was really smart,
he was accurate, he could really run. Arch is a
lot of those things.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
What's different, obviously, is Andrew's dad played quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
He wasn't the greatest quarterback or arguably the greatest quarterback
in the NFL. And his grandfather wasn't a great player.
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It's like, as you said, that family is football royalty.
But the stuff I've heard from people at Texas much
like Andrew, because people rave about Andrew's character still to
this day. But around Stanford, remember, they were awful when
he got there, when he committed, and then they got
really good, and they were really really good by the
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time he left at Stanford. This is already a really
good Texas program. I think I'd be surprised if he
does not excel there in a big way. Now, again,
will he win a national title this year? That's putting
a lot out there for again, a team that has
to replace almost the entire offensive line and their go
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to receiver. But I expect him to be pretty special.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Bruce Feldman, great chopping it up in college football. We
both love it. Obviously, you cover it in a daily basis.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Good seeing you, Buden, Great seeing you guys.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, there's a lot of things. Yeah, I know, you
know this whole Notre Dame USC thing. J Mack, you
know you live amongst the Trojans, you in the tank
top crowd, on the beach, playing volleyball on Saturdays. I
just keep saying. Now, he does make a great point
that USC didn't have a very difficult schedule last year,
but they got a huge break from the Big Ten.
They don't have to play Oregon or Ohio State their
first two years in the conference. They're going to have
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to face Oregon and Ohio State, the two best programs
in the conference right now. With Penn State. Now, I
think I think Texas is gonna face Penn State in
the National Championship. So I think it's gonna be Drew
Aller against arch Manning, and I think those are gonna
be the top two picks. Caleb Downs will be the
third pick, the corner from Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Oh, Colin Bruce, I remember this vividly.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Bruce was here when you floated your USC should not
play Notre Dame anymore. I wish we could pull the clip, Bruce,
you might remember it. We're both kind of laughing, like, Oh,
this is Colin's hot take happy hour. He's just floating nonsense,
and now it actually kind of looks like you might
be honest something.
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All right, it's Cincinnati Bengals time. Colin.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Interesting quote here from Jamar Chase, the superstar wide receiver.
Everybody knows the Bengals have been notoriously slow starters under
this current regime. However, when Jamar Chase was asked about
the preseason, Colin, take a listen to this.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
I don't know. How do we start my rookie year?
Did we play in a preseason? I don't know?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
What about?
Speaker 9 (20:57):
What about this next year? Did we play preseason? About
the following year we played that preseason? Sounds like we
need to play preseason.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Huh uh huh. I know you're mister anti preseason. This
is it. Let's chase it.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Know the answer to the questions he's asking. I think
that's called a rhetorical question. And here are the numbers.
The slowest starting team in the leagues in twenty nineteen
under broar guy Zach Taylor. I would run him out
of town.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
But that's just me. Colin.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Time to play Bornow and Chase in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, one of the things that concerns you is generally
offensive coaches have advantage over defensive coaches in September because
they've installed Andy Reid's historically September record and Belichicks. So
if you look at offensive coaches McVeigh in September, Andy
Reid in September, look how quickly bo Nick started with
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Sean Payton as a rookie quarterback. Offensive coaches have an advantage.
So it is troubling that Zach Taylor is the opposite.
He's a disaster with Joe Burrow in September. So I've
defended Zach Taylor, but there is no getting around it.
That is a mark against him.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Now, I did look at the Bengals schedule. The league
did them some favors here. They open up Cleveland, should
be a dub, They'll be favorite on the road.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Then they host Jacksonville.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
That to me looks like a two and oh start.
I think the Vikings are a problem. I think Denver
altitude is a problem. Obviously the Lions, but they can't
afford you see that Lions packers like they can't afford
losing one of those first two games. Colling you don't
want to get behind the eight ball again, and we
would both agree.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
The AF season, you know, I mean, I think listen.
I mean, it looks like they can be two and
oh to start, but that's I mean, you know, they
get a very soft open and a very soft close.
But this league has decided October first to December fifteenth,
and they got rough games. Those are rough games in there.
A lot of Ravens twice, Buffalo twice, much improved New England,
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Green Bay to Detroit.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Buffalo and Baltimore. I'm sorry, Baltimore, Buffalo Baltimore three game stretch. Yikes.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Why the hell would they do that to them Thanksgiving
and then at Buffalo and then back home for Baltimore,
that's got to.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Be HiT's up a three game threat.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You got to have higher standards. Read and mahomes are
nineteen and four in September. You want to host playoff games.
Cincinnati's got to a point where we're just like, can
they make the playoffs? Kansas City and Buffalo and Baltimore,
the three other teams with first ballot Hall of Fame
quarterbacks are trying to win divisions and get home playoff
games cheap frugal Cincinnati, dysfunctional Cincinnati. We're just hoping they
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can make the playoffs. When last year there was an
argument Burrow was the best quarterback in the league. That again,
where you land matters. Mahomes, Reid and Lamar. You can
talk about all you want about playoff wins. They are
built in playoff teams because of Harball, because of the
ownership Steve Bushatti Hunt family, Andy Reid. Bill's have a
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more than solid coach and good ownership. Like Cincinnati has
maybe the best quarterback in any Sunday in the league,
and we're crossing our fingers if they can make the playoffs.
That's not about Burrow. That's upstairs, not great at all.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Let's move on to the Atlanta Falcons. Talked about them earlier,
The Kirk Cousins no show. Let's take a moment to
talk about Michael Pennox, such a superstar at Washington during
that playoff run.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
A big fan of his work.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
According to Raheem Morris, the head coach, Pennix has been
finding his own voice in the locker room, and Pennix
is excited to be the starter.
Speaker 10 (24:43):
So the one thing that I want to point it
is like just connecting with the guys. You know, I
feel like I've done a lot, a lot better with
connecting with everybody around the team, not just officers, the guys,
the deeps of guys as well, you know, whether that's
you know, just doing stuff you know around the facinity
Dan lunch, or you know, going out golf of some
with them, no aspot, migolf gang.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I really like I met him before. I like him
a lot. I think he throws I said before, I
think he is a bigger, stronger Tua in terms of
throwing a ball accurately quickly down the field. I think
he's a great distributor. And I do think he has
the ability to move like Tua, but he doesn't. He
is a classic pocket guy who can move. He could
be he could be a little bit of a left
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handed CJ. Stroud maybe where you're like, he throws a
beautiful ball out. But I think to some degree, I
think the offensive weaponry for Atlanta's pretty good. They don't
get a pass rush, ever, but I actually like their
offensive pieces.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I can't believe you just compared him to Tua and
c J. Stroud. That's high praise.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I will point out Atlanta opens against Tampa, huge divisional matchup.
Then they travel to Minnesota. Like again, Michael Pennix, you're
being thrown to the Wolves. I think Carolina should be
a win in Week three Washington, but look after that Buffalo,
San fran Colin no oh.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Rests for the weird.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Michael Pennix is gonna have a very tough start there.
Back end of the schedule is a little light. I
see the Jets in the same.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
As a football fan, I just want Panix to be
a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
To me, the more of.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
These guys that hit, the better the one o'clock window is.
I mean, because we know the Fox late window or
the Sunday window or the Monday window that's the league
putting in marquee teams. What I want is the one
o'clock window to have good teams. So the more of
these quarterbacks, these bow Nicks and Michael Pennix, If JJ
McCarthy hits, then the one o'clock way because what you
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get into the one o'clock window a lot of times
is all the bad quarterbacks in the league and it's unwatchable.
Not a bad point.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Final story, Let's go to college football.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Jeremiah Smith, obviously a transcendent freshman campaign and a friend
of the show.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Dan Brugler said, if he would have been able to.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Enter the NFL draft, he would have been the top
non quarterback taket. Now Smith has two years left on
his deal before he's draft eligible. He told the Athletic,
I'm enjoying college. I'm in no rush to go.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
To the NFL. How about this stet.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
According to on three nil rankings, we know arch Manning
is number one six point six million.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Cooper Flagg in college basketball.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Was number two at four point eight, followed by Carson
Beck and Jeremiah Smith allegedly four million dollars.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
In nil money. That feels almost light, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
He's a great player. I mean, right if he was,
if he was eligible, the draft would go Arch Manning,
Drew Aller, and then depending on need, Caleb Downs and
Jeremiah Smith. I think those are the four best best players.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
You can take Downs over Smith.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Well, it depends on the need, like if you if
you're a team that I mean, there's receivers are plentiful
in college football. Smith is great.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Jeremiah Smith is not a receiver.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well, they said that about Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
No, he has and Jeremia Smith is better than him.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Come on, well, I think he is too. But it's
it's you know, it's just there are It's hard. Nobody
in the NFL has two great corners. A lot of
teams have three good receivers. It's just they's just a
scarcity of good corners in football. And so if you
can get one, grab them all right. J McK of
the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping
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by the Herd Line News. You know our staff, they're
so kind. So I was saying earlier, I was talking
about Paige Beckers, and she was She's coming as a
rookie five games into the WNBA, and her numbers are
very close to Caitlin Clark. She was a better college
high school player than Kaitlyn Clark, especially early. And Diana
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Tarassi had said this week that the Dallas Wings rookie.
She said, oh, she'll be the best player in the league.
And I think it's interesting that Caitlin Clark and then
the following year, Page Beckers could end up being the
best or at least most popular players in the league.
Now Asia Wilson in Las Vegas is the best player
right now and who can describe or figure out what
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popularity means. But she is a remarkable talent. And I
had referenced earlier. There is a tweet when she was
in the sixth grade, and I mean it's literally Remember
this was Gary Knox saying, remember the name Page Becker,
sixth grade, Think Diana Tarassi best sixth grade guard. I've
ever seen Saint Louis Park and the staff, they're always
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doing homework. Found an old tweet by Walter Cronkite, the
late great News band j MC. I don't know if
you've seen this. Remember the name Colin Coward kindergarten. Think
Tom Brokaw best young brother.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I just appreciate the effort by the staff, and thanks
to late Walter Cronkite for at that time tweeting it.
That is me, believe it or not.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
By the way.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
That Diana Tarassi stuff, there is so much meat on
that bone.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Just leave some for me.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I can't wait to go after Tarassi, the jealousy she
has for Caitlin Clark just for being a bigger deal
in basketball than very well. We don't even though Tarossi
was a great, historically great player, Caitlin Clark's done more
for the sport of basketball.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Why can't Diana Tarassi just say? And a lot of
people believe this. Remember Paige Becker's is the reason Caitlin
Clark was never offered a scholarship at Yukon, so.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Haping up her Yukon friend. But it's not just that
I looked it up.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Tarassi has been making comments about Kaitlin Clark that are negative.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
For like three years. Colin, she hates her, She's jealous.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
It's out there like maybe hate is strong, but she's
definitely jealous of what Clark is doing and the attention
she's getting. Sorry, that's a fun story.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
It is.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I'll tell you. I told you I was Sunday night.
Had played golf Saturday with cousins and then Sunday ass
other cousins and they had their college sons at the
dinner barbecue.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It was great, smart kids, college kids, and they were talking.
We were talking about sports, and one of them love
the UFC and they all love football, and I asked
him about Caitlin Clark and they said, at our frat house,
if Caitlin Clark is playing, it takes president over almost
over everything else among a bunch of guys, young guys.
So like this is one of those Taylor Swift like
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phenomenons where it just is it's hard to describe. I mean,
Taylor Swift's obviously talented, Kaitlyn's Clark talented, but it's more
than being popular. It's literally she's selling merchandise in the
WNBA went up five hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
By the way, was a great player, great, I guarantee,
you know, fraternity in America, it was like, Hey, what's
a Diana Tarassi game on? Well, I think she's the
logo of the league. I'm pretty sure. Like again, there's
just there wasn't that interest. Maybe it's timing. And I
also have another good I've got some good stuff I'm
saving for next week when you're you.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Know, appreciate you saving all your good stuff that much
A good tea made. God, I need Halliburton in that chair.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, it has been a monumental last I don't know,
eighteen months to two years in college football with significant changes,
and I think you have to rethink everything. They're still
going to be. College football still has the best rivalries
of any sport, but not all of them will remain intact,
one of them being USC Notre Dame, where USC looks
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at it right now and is pushing back on not
wanting another potential late November game and bad weather. They
would like that earlier in the year, and they're pushing
back on Notre Dame. The Irish need the game because
they're not in a conference much more than USC does.
And Bruce Feldman, who covers college football for Fox, is
now joining US Live, and my takeaway on that has
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always been listen the conference USC used to play in
no longer exists. You can pay high school football players.
We've got to get over this sort of sentimentality. But
it is strong bruce with USC Notre Dame. It is really.
Notre Dame loves it because they can recruit in California. Like,
I get it. Your take on USC's tacked, which is
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we can take it or leave it. How's that land
for you?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
No, I think if you're USC, you have a lot
of pride in your traditions. I don't think you want
to be the one who lets this rival relapse. By
the way, Colin, it's like, just looking back at this,
we can talk about what it takes to get into
the playoff. Last year, basically, USC played in its first
year in the Big Ten, played two teams that ended
up ranked in the top twenty five. That's it too,
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And one of them, by the way, was Notre Dame.
When they were in the Pac twelve. The year before
they played three. The year before that they played four.
So the idea that they're gone to the Big ten
and the Big ten is so stacked. You know, yeah,
there's more teams in it, but you're not playing everybody
in the Big Ten. So I think, as somebody who's
lived out here, for twenty plus years.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Know a lot of USC people.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
USC is not They've taken pride in that they're not Arizona,
they're not Ucla, they're not you know, they're different. They
were not playing FCS programs. I don't think that this
should be like a, oh, we got to do this
because it gives ourselves the best chance to make it
into the playoff. If you're good, you're going to make
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the playoff. If you're not very good, you know you
squeezing by against Minnesota and Wisconsin and UCLA and Purdue.
You know it's not going to carry water. I mean,
this is not this. It's different than it is. Let's
say in the argument.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Now with the.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
SEC, they're playing a lot more high level teams. I
think this is not a great This is a very
un USC move for USC from based on what I
feel like, what makes that place special.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It's the tradition.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Before I get to the big ten and Sark and
archs Manning. Let's stay on USC. They're over under a
seven and a half. Vegas Draft kings are usually pretty
accurate at this stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
They do have size they haven't had in a long time.
I don't love their quarterback position. Let's say Lincoln Riley
goes eight and five. I know the buyout's extensive, but
I mean most of your great coaches turn it around
in year two, especially with a transfer portal. We don't
know if Lincoln's a culture builder. We know he knows offense,
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what if he goes eight and five does he last?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think the part which is tricky on predicting that
is what happens. They have a really good recruiting class
as of right now. How many of those kids end
up signing with USC? To me, that's a big piece.
And if you're not a top fIF fifteen, top twenty
team and Georgia or Ohio State come back in on
those recruits, then do they end up coming here?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Like?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Because the way I look at it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Right now, there is not a lot of momentum at USC.
I mean you just said it over under is seven
and a half. I think right now they have a
couple of really big time receivers. Kamari Ramsey's a really
good dB. But this is not like a very very
talented USC team. No one's talking about Mayava Jaden Mayava,
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who came from UNLV as a guy who's going to
be a first round kind of quarterback. There's some potential there,
but right now, I don't think anybody looks at this
team and says, oh, they're a playoff team. They're not
very good on the offensive line. They're okay on the
d line, but they're not great and you don't see
a lot of like except for maybe Jacoby Lane, Makaia Lemon.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
The receivers.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Those guys are big time guys, but I feel like
right now they're just struggling to get momentum. And if
you throw in another eight and five and that eight
and five would would that include being seven and five
and winning a bowl game? I just think it's it's
a hard sell now. The buyout is enormous. That is
a deal that the old regime did that Jen Cohen
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got stuck with. And you wonder where will the money
come from. This isn't Texas A and M where they
got Jimbo Fisher out, But like we're talking about a
buyout that's going to be around eighty million dollars in
that range. Are people going to step up to pay
that kind of money if they feel like this isn't
going the direction we wanted it to go. I mean
(05:37):
It's a really interesting subject because, like I agree with you,
Lincoln's a really good offensive coach. But when he was
at oh you he stepped in and took over for
Bob Stoops, and there was a lot of big pieces
in place.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
This was not this way.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
The athletic department, I feel like is in a big
transition mode and it just doesn't feel like they've ever
been able to get momentum for the first year when
Caleb was there and they had a good run, and
then all of a sudden it started to backslide.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know. It's Brian Kelly said today at SEC Media Days.
He said, I can speak for the room. The Big
Ten has it on us. Michigan, Ohio, State of won Natties,
Penn State's favored to potentially win a third straight. What
do you think is the primary reason? I have my
own theories. I'll let you start on why. Clearly, when
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I watched Big Ten football and SEC football over the
last two years, Clearly, to me, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn
State have as good or better athletes than the SEC.
I did not feel that three years ago with Georgia
and Bama. Why does it? What was the impetus for
the big change.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Well, I think you start with Ohio State. They're different.
They're more like an SEC school in terms of how
they recruit than they are like a Big Ten school.
I mean they always if you look in the last decade,
I mean you see it in all the guys in
the NFL. I mean that was they're different, right, And
so you have guys with track records, I mean receivers.
You go with the guys Brian Hartline has developed there,
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and then you add a Jeremiah Smith who's a generational
talent who's better than all the ones that they've had there.
When you get to Michigan, I think it really had
a lot to do with how Jim Harbaugh developed players.
They were going to practice, be physical, and so you
had a lot of that where they were able to
retain talent and a lot of guys on that national
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title team came back for one more year. I mean
the bottom fell out on them last year. They were
an awful offensive team. They still had some good defensive
players and we saw that reflected in the draft.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
But I feel like that was different.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And now where we're at with Penn State, very talented
James Franklin has recruited similar to what Ohio State has
like an SEC program.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
So I think because of that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
You have, let you know, they're different than whereas in
the SEC you probably have seven or eight schools that
aren't that different.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
In the Big Ten, I feel like you have two
or three.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
We'll throw Oregon in there because they have recruited exceptionally
well and we saw that last year. But the rest
of the Big Ten, when you start talking about Nebraska,
Wisconsin fell off, Maryland, Rutgers, they don't.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
They're not at the level.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Of let's say where ole Miss is, where South Carolina is.
South Carolina has a bunch of guys who were former
five star recruits, and they had a really good year
last year. They didn't make the playoff, but they were
a dangerous team.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Ole Miss went all in the portal. They spent a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You see what they did for Lane Kiff, and they
were a team that was a playoff contender. They beat
Georgia right, they didn't beat Florida when they needed to,
but they were a dangerous team. So I think in
that there's just to me, there's a top group of
teams in the Big Ten that are like SEC teams,
and then after that there's a big there's a I
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feel like there's a pretty sizable drop off.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
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Speaker 1 (09:07):
Belichick and UNC. So here's where I offend him. Forget
the personal stuff for a second, although I think it's entertaining,
is that when you're a basketball school, how do you
catch Clemson? Well, you have to be a disruptor. So
Clemson's like, we're not going to do the nil thing,
and that's an opening, and so they say, we're gonna
(09:28):
do a pro model. We're gonna go total pro model,
Lombardi Belichick. It's like when Oregon was looking up at
USC and Washington, Phil Knight said, forget tradition, we're gonna
have a thousand uniforms. We're gonna go the opposite of Washington,
Penn State and USC and Michigan, and we're gonna recruit
California and we're gonna be crazy and motorcycles on the field.
They were a disruptor, Chip Kelly, We're gonna play call
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every thirteen seconds, no huddles, that's how they're a power.
So I look at Carolina saying, listen, we're a basketball school.
Let's do the opposite of Clemson. It's the only way
we can catch up to that brand, to that facility
is we are now officially a total pro model. And
if that's the case, then Jordan Hudson, she's a social currency.
It doesn't bother me. Do you think when you're around
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college sports and you talk to your sources, what do
they make of Belichick and Carolina, Jordan Hudson, what do
they make of the whole thing?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I think they don't know what to make of the
Jordan Hudson piece of this, because we're talking about a
guy who's in his seventies and a woman who's in
her twenties. And I think people were hesitant to go
talk about it a lot publicly until the CBS Sunday
Morning interview and it became like kind of odd. And
there were some other things where it just it just
(10:39):
seemed a little out of character for Belichick, where it
was always focused on football and now all of asden
you get he's promoting a book, and I think some
of the things that came with it were a.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Little just bizarre.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
The part where I think there's real buy in is
he's the greatest football coach in the history of the NFL.
He's not Chan Gaily, He's not one of these guys
who did both and came back like he's the greatest
football coach. He's brilliant when it comes to offense and defense,
strategically and development. I could see why kids would want
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to play for him. You totally get it. They went
in the portal late in the spring. They got a
really good quarterback from South Alabama, Joe Lopez. I think
he'll be a good fit for them. I think he
will help them. And the part that where I'm fascinated
by them is he's in the ACC. He's not in
that Big ten. He's not in the SEC. So most
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of these games take Clemson out of it for a bit.
But most of the teams they're playing, they're kind of
toss up games, right because I feel like there's there's
a lot of talent that's basically in the same level.
There's not a ton of difference makers on the field
in those ACC games. If you're better prepared and you
execute better, you can win them.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
He could get.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Them to nine and three, eight and four, and remember
Mac Brown had some good teams. Now a bunch of
those kids ended up leaving already. But I'm fascinated to
see how this goes. I'm not as fascinated as I was,
let's say, when Dion was there, because Dion was just
such a force of nature and he was more compelling.
This is a little this is a little bit different,
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but it's still very interesting because it's like an interesting experiment.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
By the way, I want to talk Dion for a second.
Two years. But a five hundred coach, his son is gone,
his sons are gone, Travis Hunter's gone. Where are they?
I mean, he's made them relevant, but the big ten
in the SEC run the sport and then maybe Clemson
on the outside. What do you expect going forward now
(12:45):
that all the flash, now that his sun's gone, what
is Colorado and Dion going forward?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, we can say as a five hundred coach, but
I think in fairness to them, we got to point
out they were one in eleven before he show up.
They were horrible. So he made them not only nationally relevant,
but they were a top twenty five team last year. Now,
a lot of that certainly was you had a really
good quarterback his son. You had some really good receivers
and a generational two way player in Travis Hunter. They
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still have a few good players around there. You know,
he upgraded the offensive line. You got a former five
star offensive tackle in Jordan Seaton. I think he's going
to be a you know, future NFL player.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
They have. I feel like they have taken some of
the momentum.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
The question is going to be, you had some guys
who could just flat out win games, and they were
close games.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
You know, they have a former quarterback recruit who was
an Elite eleven kid, Julian Lewis, who was committed SC.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Now he's there.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
He's competing with Caden Salter, who was a really good
running quarterback at Liberty. I think they will be different,
but again, they're in the Big twelve. I think they
can compete with with anybody in that league. I think
there'll be pretty solid in the trenches, which they weren't
when he first got there. I think they can at
least be Bowl l eligible and then we'll see, you know,
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the next step if he can get some of those big,
big difference makers that he had that he brought with
him from Jackson State.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Finally, I don't think there's a quarterback. I certainly don't
remember Andrew Luck was obviously great, but he wasn't He
wasn't flashy. It was Stanford. I don't remember an arch Manning.
And Tibo was great, but he wasn't really view. He
was collegiate arch Manning, his family's American football royalty. I mean,
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he's I thought he was better than quin yours. Didn't
say a word played back up. I've never seen a
quarterback hype to this level. I kind of buy that
he is good the little bit i've seen. He's athletic,
he's got a nice arm, he's apparently gotten stronger. It
puts a lot of pressure on Sark who you know.
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I mean, let's let's be honest. The downside to arch
Manning is you've got arch Manning and people want you
to go twelve and one in the Sea in Texas
has a to schedule. They opened with Ohio State. What
are your realistic expectations for Archsmanning this year where we'll
be comfortable, What do you expect to see?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I expect him to be a playoff team.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't know if they're going to be the team
that's you know, in the national title game. Because here's
the thing they've lost. They lost a first round receiver
in Matthew Golden. They lost for starting offensive linemen, I mean,
including both tackles.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
That's a lot to replace.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I think they'll be really good on defense, even though
they lost Jadai Barron, who is a first round pick.
And but I think they'll be good up front on defense.
And I expect him to live This is crazy to
say it because the hype is so big, but I
do expect him to live up to the hype. You
will see wow plays. Now, keep in mind he has
not played that much college football. He started a couple
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of games. He is, to me, definitely more talented than
Quinn Hewers. He is a much better athlete. The guys
I know inside the Texas program have raved about Arch
in terms of his football savvy, his playmaking ability, what
he is character wise. I think Sark is a really
good fit for him. I don't know if they, you know,
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go in that's gonna be our game. We're going to
be in Columbus for big noon and can't wait. That's
going to be a really big matchup. I expect him
to be really good. I don't know if we're going
to say, oh, he's gonna win the Heisman. I don't
want to put that on him. I also don't want
to say he's going to be the first pick in
the draft, you know, eleven months from now.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I think he has that kind of talent.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Though.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
The comparison to Andrew Luck is interesting because Andrew, to me,
was as close to can't miss as we had seen
coming out of college. He was big, he was really smart,
he was accurate, he could really run. Arch is a
lot of those things.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
What's different, obviously, is Andrew's dad played quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
He wasn't the greatest quarterback or arguably the greatest quarterback
in the NFL. And his grandfather wasn't a great player.
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It's like, as you said, that family is football royalty.
But the stuff I've heard from people at Texas much
like Andrew, because people rave about Andrew's character still to
this day. But around Stanford, remember, they were awful when
he got there, when he committed, and then they got
really good, and they were really really good by the
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time he left at Stanford. This is already a really
good Texas program. I think I'd be surprised if he
does not excel there in a big way. Now, again,
will he win a national title this year? That's putting
a lot out there for again, a team that has
to replace almost the entire offensive line and their go
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to receiver. But I expect him to be pretty special.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Bruce Feldman, great chopping it up in college football. We
both love it. Obviously, you cover it in a daily basis.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Good seeing you, Buden, Great seeing you guys.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, there's a lot of things. Yeah, I know, you
know this whole Notre Dame USC thing. J Mack, you
know you live amongst the Trojans, you in the tank
top crowd, on the beach, playing volleyball on Saturdays. I
just keep saying. Now, he does make a great point
that USC didn't have a very difficult schedule last year,
but they got a huge break from the Big Ten.
They don't have to play Oregon or Ohio State their
first two years in the conference. They're going to have
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to face Oregon and Ohio State, the two best programs
in the conference right now. With Penn State. Now, I
think I think Texas is gonna face Penn State in
the National Championship. So I think it's gonna be Drew
Aller against arch Manning, and I think those are gonna
be the top two picks. Caleb Downs will be the
third pick, the corner from Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Oh, Colin Bruce, I remember this vividly.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Bruce was here when you floated your USC should not
play Notre Dame anymore. I wish we could pull the clip, Bruce,
you might remember it. We're both kind of laughing, like, Oh,
this is Colin's hot take happy hour. He's just floating nonsense,
and now it actually kind of looks like you might
be honest something.
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All right, it's Cincinnati Bengals time. Colin.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Interesting quote here from Jamar Chase, the superstar wide receiver.
Everybody knows the Bengals have been notoriously slow starters under
this current regime. However, when Jamar Chase was asked about
the preseason, Colin, take a listen to this.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
I don't know. How do we start my rookie year?
Did we play in a preseason? I don't know?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
What about?
Speaker 9 (20:57):
What about this next year? Did we play preseason? About
the following year we played that preseason? Sounds like we
need to play preseason.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Huh uh huh. I know you're mister anti preseason. This
is it. Let's chase it.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Know the answer to the questions he's asking. I think
that's called a rhetorical question. And here are the numbers.
The slowest starting team in the leagues in twenty nineteen
under broar guy Zach Taylor. I would run him out
of town.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
But that's just me. Colin.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Time to play Bornow and Chase in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, one of the things that concerns you is generally
offensive coaches have advantage over defensive coaches in September because
they've installed Andy Reid's historically September record and Belichicks. So
if you look at offensive coaches McVeigh in September, Andy
Reid in September, look how quickly bo Nick started with
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Sean Payton as a rookie quarterback. Offensive coaches have an advantage.
So it is troubling that Zach Taylor is the opposite.
He's a disaster with Joe Burrow in September. So I've
defended Zach Taylor, but there is no getting around it.
That is a mark against him.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Now, I did look at the Bengals schedule. The league
did them some favors here. They open up Cleveland, should
be a dub, They'll be favorite on the road.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Then they host Jacksonville.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
That to me looks like a two and oh start.
I think the Vikings are a problem. I think Denver
altitude is a problem. Obviously the Lions, but they can't
afford you see that Lions packers like they can't afford
losing one of those first two games. Colling you don't
want to get behind the eight ball again, and we
would both agree.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
The AF season, you know, I mean, I think listen.
I mean, it looks like they can be two and
oh to start, but that's I mean, you know, they
get a very soft open and a very soft close.
But this league has decided October first to December fifteenth,
and they got rough games. Those are rough games in there.
A lot of Ravens twice, Buffalo twice, much improved New England,
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Green Bay to Detroit.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Buffalo and Baltimore. I'm sorry, Baltimore, Buffalo Baltimore three game stretch. Yikes.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Why the hell would they do that to them Thanksgiving
and then at Buffalo and then back home for Baltimore,
that's got to.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Be HiT's up a three game threat.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You got to have higher standards. Read and mahomes are
nineteen and four in September. You want to host playoff games.
Cincinnati's got to a point where we're just like, can
they make the playoffs? Kansas City and Buffalo and Baltimore,
the three other teams with first ballot Hall of Fame
quarterbacks are trying to win divisions and get home playoff
games cheap frugal Cincinnati, dysfunctional Cincinnati. We're just hoping they
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can make the playoffs. When last year there was an
argument Burrow was the best quarterback in the league. That again,
where you land matters. Mahomes, Reid and Lamar. You can
talk about all you want about playoff wins. They are
built in playoff teams because of Harball, because of the
ownership Steve Bushatti Hunt family, Andy Reid. Bill's have a
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more than solid coach and good ownership. Like Cincinnati has
maybe the best quarterback in any Sunday in the league,
and we're crossing our fingers if they can make the playoffs.
That's not about Burrow. That's upstairs, not great at all.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Let's move on to the Atlanta Falcons. Talked about them earlier,
The Kirk Cousins no show. Let's take a moment to
talk about Michael Pennox, such a superstar at Washington during
that playoff run.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
A big fan of his work.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
According to Raheem Morris, the head coach, Pennix has been
finding his own voice in the locker room, and Pennix
is excited to be the starter.
Speaker 10 (24:43):
So the one thing that I want to point it
is like just connecting with the guys. You know, I
feel like I've done a lot, a lot better with
connecting with everybody around the team, not just officers, the guys,
the deeps of guys as well, you know, whether that's
you know, just doing stuff you know around the facinity
Dan lunch, or you know, going out golf of some
with them, no aspot, migolf gang.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I really like I met him before. I like him
a lot. I think he throws I said before, I
think he is a bigger, stronger Tua in terms of
throwing a ball accurately quickly down the field. I think
he's a great distributor. And I do think he has
the ability to move like Tua, but he doesn't. He
is a classic pocket guy who can move. He could
be he could be a little bit of a left
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handed CJ. Stroud maybe where you're like, he throws a
beautiful ball out. But I think to some degree, I
think the offensive weaponry for Atlanta's pretty good. They don't
get a pass rush, ever, but I actually like their
offensive pieces.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I can't believe you just compared him to Tua and
c J. Stroud. That's high praise.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I will point out Atlanta opens against Tampa, huge divisional matchup.
Then they travel to Minnesota. Like again, Michael Pennix, you're
being thrown to the Wolves. I think Carolina should be
a win in Week three Washington, but look after that Buffalo,
San fran Colin no oh.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Rests for the weird.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Michael Pennix is gonna have a very tough start there.
Back end of the schedule is a little light. I
see the Jets in the same.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
As a football fan, I just want Panix to be
a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
To me, the more of.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
These guys that hit, the better the one o'clock window is.
I mean, because we know the Fox late window or
the Sunday window or the Monday window that's the league
putting in marquee teams. What I want is the one
o'clock window to have good teams. So the more of
these quarterbacks, these bow Nicks and Michael Pennix, If JJ
McCarthy hits, then the one o'clock way because what you
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get into the one o'clock window a lot of times
is all the bad quarterbacks in the league and it's unwatchable.
Not a bad point.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Final story, Let's go to college football.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Jeremiah Smith, obviously a transcendent freshman campaign and a friend
of the show.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Dan Brugler said, if he would have been able to.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Enter the NFL draft, he would have been the top
non quarterback taket. Now Smith has two years left on
his deal before he's draft eligible. He told the Athletic,
I'm enjoying college. I'm in no rush to go.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
To the NFL. How about this stet.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
According to on three nil rankings, we know arch Manning
is number one six point six million.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Cooper Flagg in college basketball.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Was number two at four point eight, followed by Carson
Beck and Jeremiah Smith allegedly four million dollars.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
In nil money. That feels almost light, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
He's a great player. I mean, right if he was,
if he was eligible, the draft would go Arch Manning,
Drew Aller, and then depending on need, Caleb Downs and
Jeremiah Smith. I think those are the four best best players.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
You can take Downs over Smith.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Well, it depends on the need, like if you if
you're a team that I mean, there's receivers are plentiful
in college football. Smith is great.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Jeremiah Smith is not a receiver.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well, they said that about Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
No, he has and Jeremia Smith is better than him.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Come on, well, I think he is too. But it's
it's you know, it's just there are It's hard. Nobody
in the NFL has two great corners. A lot of
teams have three good receivers. It's just they's just a
scarcity of good corners in football. And so if you
can get one, grab them all right. J McK of
the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping
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by the Herd Line News. You know our staff, they're
so kind. So I was saying earlier, I was talking
about Paige Beckers, and she was She's coming as a
rookie five games into the WNBA, and her numbers are
very close to Caitlin Clark. She was a better college
high school player than Kaitlyn Clark, especially early. And Diana
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Tarassi had said this week that the Dallas Wings rookie.
She said, oh, she'll be the best player in the league.
And I think it's interesting that Caitlin Clark and then
the following year, Page Beckers could end up being the
best or at least most popular players in the league.
Now Asia Wilson in Las Vegas is the best player
right now and who can describe or figure out what
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popularity means. But she is a remarkable talent. And I
had referenced earlier. There is a tweet when she was
in the sixth grade, and I mean it's literally Remember
this was Gary Knox saying, remember the name Page Becker,
sixth grade, Think Diana Tarassi best sixth grade guard. I've
ever seen Saint Louis Park and the staff, they're always
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doing homework. Found an old tweet by Walter Cronkite, the
late great News band j MC. I don't know if
you've seen this. Remember the name Colin Coward kindergarten. Think
Tom Brokaw best young brother.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I just appreciate the effort by the staff, and thanks
to late Walter Cronkite for at that time tweeting it.
That is me, believe it or not.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
By the way.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
That Diana Tarassi stuff, there is so much meat on
that bone.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Just leave some for me.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I can't wait to go after Tarassi, the jealousy she
has for Caitlin Clark just for being a bigger deal
in basketball than very well. We don't even though Tarossi
was a great, historically great player, Caitlin Clark's done more
for the sport of basketball.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Why can't Diana Tarassi just say? And a lot of
people believe this. Remember Paige Becker's is the reason Caitlin
Clark was never offered a scholarship at Yukon, so.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Haping up her Yukon friend. But it's not just that
I looked it up.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Tarassi has been making comments about Kaitlin Clark that are negative.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
For like three years. Colin, she hates her, She's jealous.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
It's out there like maybe hate is strong, but she's
definitely jealous of what Clark is doing and the attention
she's getting. Sorry, that's a fun story.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
It is.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I'll tell you. I told you I was Sunday night.
Had played golf Saturday with cousins and then Sunday ass
other cousins and they had their college sons at the
dinner barbecue.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It was great, smart kids, college kids, and they were talking.
We were talking about sports, and one of them love
the UFC and they all love football, and I asked
him about Caitlin Clark and they said, at our frat house,
if Caitlin Clark is playing, it takes president over almost
over everything else among a bunch of guys, young guys.
So like this is one of those Taylor Swift like
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phenomenons where it just is it's hard to describe. I mean,
Taylor Swift's obviously talented, Kaitlyn's Clark talented, but it's more
than being popular. It's literally she's selling merchandise in the
WNBA went up five hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
By the way, was a great player, great, I guarantee,
you know, fraternity in America, it was like, Hey, what's
a Diana Tarassi game on? Well, I think she's the
logo of the league. I'm pretty sure. Like again, there's
just there wasn't that interest. Maybe it's timing. And I
also have another good I've got some good stuff I'm
saving for next week when you're you.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Know, appreciate you saving all your good stuff that much
A good tea made. God, I need Halliburton in that chair.
I'll seeing no one mm hmm h
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