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June 7, 2025 13 mins

Suga Sean O’Malley is BACK on another episode of the Daniel Cormier Check-In ahead of his Bantamweight title fight rematch against Merab Dvalishvili at UFC 316. O’Malley talks about losing the belt to Merab, and how he still feels like the champ, and his No. 1 priority is avenging his loss and becoming world champion again. Sean also speaks about how he knows he can knock Merab out, and is looking forward to a finish on Saturday night. #Volume #Herd

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Speaker 3 (01:41):
Thank you for checking in with me again, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Sugar Shan O'Malley tries to get his UFC championship back
this weekend. Training camp's over. Been away for a while, man,
what does the year look like? I know a lot
of changes, but in the immediate after the fight, what
was the thought process?

Speaker 5 (01:59):
It sucks because I knew I had to get surgery
right after the fight, and in my mind was like,
I'm gonna go out there, win, get surgery, chill, It's
gonna be great. But having to get surgery coming off
a loss wasn't great. I was you know, getting surgery sucks,
gett laid up for a while, can't do much.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
So you know, after in the first few weeks.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Monta like, you know, bothered me. I wanted to get
it back so bad. But I feel like part of
that is how it healed so fast and was able
to get back to work so fast.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
And U my mind was focused, hyper focused on.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Morob or I mean umar or Morob, and Morob got
the job done.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
You know, when you were injured, it was a hip.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Labor labor.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
We thought it was your shoulder the whole time We're
like talking about and it's like.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
But then it was your hip.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
And there's no defending Takedowns with a messed up hip, right.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Was there ever a thought to not or was the or.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Did you put so much emphasis on well, this is
a massive car at the sphere, all this stuff I
need to show up like.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
It was both.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
I was confident I could go out there and knock
Morob out. You know, I did it against al Jo
had worse, you know, the Algro fight was worse like
the camp was like you know, I would say the
rib was worse than the actual hip. So the hip
didn't play as much a role in the fight. Is
is the camp, Like I just to fight someone like Morob,
you've gotta you gotta prepare, right, you gotta wrestle, You've
gotta be grappling. And we didn't do that at all,

(03:26):
hardly at all the first fight. And I think that
played a role more so than the actual fight, you know,
just the timing of wrestling, and I wasn't able to
do that. This camp, we've been able to wrestle more
than we've ever been able to. And uh but I
accept with the fight because I thought I.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Was gonna win. I walked into the cage.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
I walked in there confident that I was gonna win,
and it was a sphere. I knew it was gonna
be massive. I knew it was gonna break records, and
a part of me, you know, looked up to you know,
Floyd and Connor to make those crazy records like I
in those moments, Yeah, I wanted that so you know,
no regrets, Sean.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
I gotta ask you something.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
We talked, so I'm in the business of talking. An
opinion says what we do all the time. Jail and
I sit on the show two times a week talking
about this sport. A lot of times it's about you.
We were talking about you in the moment you just
kind of mentioned this fear was big.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
You walked out there the first.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Time, and I saw you kind of go, oh, well,
were you kind of like knocked back a little bit
when you looked at the venue because it was mad
to see one hundred foot tall Sean O'Malley walking out
to the octagon.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
It had to be.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Like like almost like awestruck a little bit because I
looked at your eyes and you went, you did this?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Did you did?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Did? I wanted to ask you, because again I'm telling
people what I think you're thinking opposed to what you
can actually tell me.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I didn't feel like it affected me at all.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
You know, usually the bigger, the more pressure, the better,
you know, the more eyeballs, the bigger the event, the
the better for me. So I didn't feel like that
affected me in any way negatively, you know, that fight
played out how it was supposed to play out. This
fight will play out the way it's supposed to play out,
and I feel like there was you know, it just
makes this win that much better, Yeah, much sweeter.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So you know it was he won.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
It wasn't because this fear wasn't because the lights wasn't
the pressure was the moment.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
It was in my it was my preparation.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
So most times were wrong. I mean like, we're more
wrong than right. One time they clipped off all the
wrong thing that Ryan and I did. We literally had
nine have did wrong, but the most were wrong.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
It's okay, I was wronging that on too.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I want to ask you this, so you're I saw
a video today and I was talking to coach Tim
about you created a fight environment in your gym.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I was telling him that when I.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Was getting ready for the two thousand and four Olympics,
we would do match simulations. So we would get up
in the morning, we would do like a weight away
in then we would wrestle matches.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
And I remember one time I wasn't taking it as
serious as I could.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I lost Sean first match, and so I'm like running back.
Coach is like, no, He's like, you don't get to
run it back.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
You lost.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Your Olympic Games is over, and he fun he kicked
my ass out of the rest room.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
He would not.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I'm crying, Sean, because now I can put myself in
the Olympic Games and I just blew the.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Opportunity of my life.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
How much were you able to put yourself in the
actual fight by creating that simulation? And uh how often
did you do it? And how much do you expect
it to help you going into this weekend?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
I feel like I've always been able to show up
and perform.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah yeah, that last fight, I you know didn't But
I don't really I don't overthink and think, oh man,
do I still got it?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Why didn't I what happened? You know? Just it is
what it is.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
I think added that the simulation, the walk out, you know,
we're training in a full sized octagon. Now, yeah, I
think all that helps, you know, every every little thing
you can do at this high level helps And I
think that probably you know, plays a role, and uh yeah,
I think it'll it'll help.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Once he didn't let me wrestled at match, I swear
to got every other simulation I took so serious because
your goal is to become a world champion, right, and
then you can kind of live into it. So I
went and spoke to Morob two days after you guys
fought Sean. He was running, He literally was running afterwards.
Now you've made a lot of changes, right, you know, Smoke,
you're all socials. The mental part, knowing what you're dealing with.

(07:24):
Did that help? Because you seem honestly more laid back,
more measured, more calm, no distractions. Knowing that you're dealing
with a guy like that, does that make you have
to level up and go to beat this dude?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I've got to be a little bit of a different
version of myself.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yeah, I mean to beat Morob, you gotta be you
gotta be focused, you gotta be dialed, you gotta.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Have the correct preparation.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
And he's they call them the machine for a reason.
He's a machine. So I gotta go out there and
break the machine. That's that's been the goal is whole campus.
Go out there and break the machine.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
You get this belt back this weekend, Like what is it?
What does it feel like to you, Sean? Because you
were anointed to become a champion, we all expected you
at some point to become a champion. You become the champion.
It's almost like this is where I'm supposed to be.
But then when you have to live without that thing,
I did it right, John Jones beat me, and I

(08:17):
was like, oh my god, no, I took this thing
for branded a little bit. Can you have a different
appreciation for this belt, what it means to you and
everything else now that we go forward?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
If you win this.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Weekend, yeah probably.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
I feel like I never really got too attached to
like I felt like the champ before.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, before the belt, I felt like I was the champ.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
I still feel like I'm the champ win or lose
after this fight, well maybe lud to a row, maybe I.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Won't feel like the champ. I feel like I'm the
champ with or without the belt. I never really got
too attached to it.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
But it is weird, like you realize, like, damn, I
don't like I got that is the belt. I got
the belt at home, but I'm not the champ.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Like there is that a little bit.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
But I never got like too attached to like sugar
the UFC champ, Like I'm just I enjoy fighting it.
Feels more it's gonna feel better beating Morob that it's
that I'm beating Morob rather than getting the belt back.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
But it is cool you look back, I've got to took.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
The belt from Algerminister, the greatest bato way of all
time at the time. I took the belt from Morob
to Wallashwili, the greatest bantam weight of all time at
the time. They're training partners. You know, it's a movie
that's a you can't make that up. So I think
that that'll be a cool storyline. But as far as
like I just want to beat Morob, like the belt
will come with it as extra and you get paid
more when you're the champ.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's always great.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
So but yeah, this is more just like I want
to Morob win back rather than I need the belt back.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
As much as outside of the self changes you've made,
has life changed much for Shawn O'Malley since uh not
having the belt? I mean in terms of like obviously
sponsorship and everything, has anything changed since not having the belt?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Not that I not that I noticed. Life is still
good life.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
So you got so much money that you if us
watch the cord then you don't even notice that.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I mean here you making money like that.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
We got it that.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
I just had a baby boy a couple couple weeks ago,
brand new little baby. So that's uh, you know that
occupies a lot of my time, a lot of my thinking,
A lot of my life is being a dad, being
a father, and uh, you know, we're traveling a lot less,
which I really enjoy.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I love my property out there in Arizona.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
So no with with with or without a belt champ,
not champ fighting, not fighting like life's good.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Life is good.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, So I saw in that simulation the guy tried
to shoot a double leg on you.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
You defend it effectively.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I also saw a clip the other day saying that
you'd like to go rustle with kubeven those guys like
that is U Would you really want to go?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Those guys are nuts, man.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
No, I mean it would be cool to be in
the same room train with them, you know, be a
part of their session.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Something like that'd be cool. Not trying to.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Because at the end of the day, you still are
mixed martial artists that want to just get better and
can recognize if there's an opportunity tore right.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, I mean hebib is an absolute legend.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
It would just you know how many tricks and little
tips and stuff you could learn from learn from them
in one session, Like.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, it'd be cool to do.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Probably will never do it. Not like I ain't going
to welcome there, but I mean, yeah, no, they're they're
legends over there.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
And what they got going on is cool, and yeah,
it'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
But this weekend is all about you in this championship.
What is Saturday night look like? What's your expectation? How
do you expect this fight to end? If you are
to become a two time UFC Bannaway champion.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
I'm prepared for a twenty five minute war, like I
would not be surprised. I'd get my hand raised and
new first round KO, second round KO. I know I
could put his lights out. I know I can't sloppy.
He's he's mastered his style. He's really good at it.
But it takes one mistake. Alja made that one mistake
in the second round. It takes one mistake for me
to put someone's lights out for the fight to change.

(11:51):
So I wouldn't be surprised to get him out of
the early.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
But I'm prepared and planned to go with twenty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
One last thing before I let you go smoking and
everything done forever. Like with those changes, like are you could.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
You go back? Like I mean social media.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
It's like I have no desire to get back on
there and skill and you know that life. Yeah, I
don't have any desire to that. You know, taking a
little puff after the weaying a little victory pluff. That
sounds fantastic.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
It sounds nice, sounds nice.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, that's not done forever.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
But yeah, you actually gonna fly through New Jersey if
you ain't smoked it that long, you're gonna act.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
We might have drive through that. We might drive down
the streets. See Sean O'Malley just floating on the air
like that.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, well man, good luck this weekend, guys, Sugar. Sean
O'Malley fights with the bandam Weet Championship this weekend, tries
to become a two time UFCE bantam weight champion, tapping
everything he's doing his YouTube channel, all of his socials
even though he doesn't use it. The follow the man,
they are still there until next time. Like subscribeing to
tell your friends about my YouTube channel because I'm checking

(12:52):
in with people like the Sugar Show until next time piece.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
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