June 19, 2025 • 42 mins
Colin discusses the sale of the Lakers and why the future is only looking bright for a team that's embraced billionaire owners. Plus, Colin has seen enough: he's out on Shedeur Sanders after his speeding citation and takes aim at his fanboys. Fox Sports MLB analyst and former catcher AJ Pierzynski joins the show to discuss the heated rivalry between the Dodgers and Padres.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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We have so much to talk about. We are live.
It is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however
you may be listening, Thanks for making us part of
your day. We got aj Perzinski talking about the Podres
Dodgers rivalry, which is intense. Albert Greer. Christine Brennan has
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got a new book out. I started it last night,
really interesting on Caitlin Clark. Christine Brennan's been very very
critical of the WNBA, and I think deservedly so. So
we got a lot on the data today Jmac. But
yesterday after the show there and we don't normally talk
a ton about this, but there was a sale. It
wasn't long ago. The Celtics sold for six billion. LA
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is a much bigger market. They sold for ten billion
dollars yesterday and nobody eat. Laker fans aren't quite sure
how to react, and I'm here to tell you it
is a great day to be a Laker fan. So
the group that bought the Lakers already owned a part
of them, Mark Walter Group, really shrewd la resident. All
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you have to do to wonder what's going to happen
to the Lakers is look at the Dodgers scouting research
and development facilities. Patients A plus plus plus plus sharp
due don't know him, no people that do. They spend
more money than any one, but they are very judicious.
They rarely miss. The Lakers have been a mom and
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pop shop for years. It's Genie Bus and friends of
the family. That's cute. But this is twenty twenty five
and it's pro sports. The organization needs more juice, more financing,
more eyes, new eyes, and this is what they have.
They're going officially from dial up to fiber optic. Yesterday
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was a great day to be a Laker fan. Now
the reports are well, Genie Buss will still be the governor.
She will still be in the front office. Yeah, and
that's what Mark Cuban told us when he sold the MAVs,
and then he didn't know about the Luca trade. That's
sort of a big deal. She's not going to have
any power now. I think she's done great in operations.
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She's beloving Los Angeles, a really cool person. Having her
around the organization is awesome. But this is a whole
different bullget When you spend ten billion dollars to buy something,
you're going to have the final say. And that's what
the Lakers need. This Dodger group, I'm telling you man,
they update and upgrade constantly. They don't get money away.
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They could have had many ado Nope, Corey Bellinger MVP,
Corey Seeger. They'll move off people since Mark Walter and
his group have arrived. Here's the reality. The Dodgers are
first or tied for first, and wins pennants titles, world
series titles. And I hear this stuff. I hear all
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the fearmongers. Colin just another oligarc another billionaire that doesn't
care about the team. You want to know the worst
owners in my life, Ted Stepien, look it up, Donald Sterling,
Marg Shott. None of them were venture capitalists. None of them,
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like Mark Walter, were global asset managers, small thinkers, bad people.
Not this group. When you watch the Dodgers, man they
don't miss It's impressive. By the way a lot of
teams spend money. Yankees spend a lot of money. They're
top heavy. Dodgers never are so. Even the way they
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finance stuff deferred payments, they're always a step ahead. They
go and get the very best people. When they took
the Dodgers over, Andrew Friedman was the hot shot GM
in Tampa. They went and got him. They were working
on that Otawni deal three years when he was an angel.
Three years out they started working on that deal. I
would not be surprised if they doubled the r indeed
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doubled the scouting department. The Lakers have too many friends
and family. I'm looking for a meritocracy, not a barbecue.
This is a great day. Don't be afraid of something
that's been in the building for years now. They own
all of it. Okay, I think the Lakers. The Bus
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family owned fifteen percent for a couple of years. Okay.
The media does something from time to time and it
kind of rubs me the wrong way. They pander, and
I get it. Athletes are young. I've said this before
about the NBA I'm not going to beat up on
young NBA players making mistakes. They come into the league
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at eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old, okay, but the NFL
is different. You come into the NFL at twenty two,
twenty three. Now some guys are staying in college for
and I'm el money maybe twenty five. And at the
quarterback position, I am harsh and punitives. The media again
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tends to pand or too often. I warn Cleveland about
Johnny Manziel, Colin, you're overreacting. Uncle Colin was right. I
warned you that Baker was good but too immature. I
was right on that too, and Stefanski eventually showed him
the door. Baker now has grown up. I like this Baker,
but I was right, and I was right about the
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Shan Watson creepy cringey. That's not a leader at that position.
So yesterday Shador Sanders got caught speeding over one hundred
miles an hour. He's a quarterback. Mike Tomlin often says
two is a trend. Can't screw up three or four times.
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Two is a trend? Just two times. I'm not sure
if I need two times When you're a young quarterback
one bad judgment turns me off. But I have now
in the last couple of months two things that really
turned me off. Wi shid Or Sanders, who I have
championed that cringey, awful legendary draft room. Bro, you're a
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b prospect. You know your dad's prime time who led
with his ego for years. You gotta have a little
self awareness. I had more than one GM say total turnoff.
Come on, it's not the end of the world. It's
a bad look. And now this one hundred miles an hour. Yep,
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all you fanboys, go ahead. Manzell Baker. Deshaun Watson defended
it to the hilt on your Reddit account. Sorry, don't
minimize it, don't pander. This is not good for a quarterback,
not good as of today. And I've said this for years.
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I do not cling to opinions, new information, new opinion.
I'm an airline pilot. We got a storm coming. Here's
the latest radar. I'm changing my route, not flying headfirst
into it. I don't think about him the same. There
was a moment I thought Will Levis, about four months
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out from the draft, had a chance, and I turned
on Will Levis when he started showing up like a
bodybuilder gun show. And I had two NFL coaches, both
needing quarterbacks, who text me, got my number and text me.
They're like, this is the exact conversation we are having
in our building right now. Two coaches, head coaches. They're like, bro,
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we're laughing watching this. It matters. New information, legendary one
hundred miles an hour judgment is fifty percent of being
a quarterback when you fall to one forty four in
the draft and then try to match that number behind
the wheel of a car. Yeah, I don't think the same.
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You ignored signs with Manzielle and Baker, and apparently, based
on the traffic violation, Shador was avoiding some signs too,
the ones that say stop. I feel differently today. I'm
not as high on him. I'm not sure he's mature enough.
Now I'm gonna have to like Kenny Pickett. J Mac.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh, boy, I'm laughing at Kenny Pickett, not obviously the
Shador situation, but calling it.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's an interesting one to eighty from.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You, my guy going from Hey put him in the
Hall of Thame because of seven on seven drills in June,
and now it's like, well, he was going forty one
over the limit.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Let's say you know me, you and I are similar
this way new information, new opinion. And I said I
did not like the legendary draft room. It was cringey.
It's not the end of the world. But people reached out.
You add these two together, all you have to do
Cleveland Manzell Baker, I kept saying, Baker did to It
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wasn't the end of the world. But it's something. It's
a lack of self awareness. You know, It's like your
shirt off posing with a tiger. It's like, bro, how
about you play game like one before you go super
model on us. But in the end, Stefanskiing and Andrew Berry,
two smart guys, were like, yeah, we just he's putting
he's starting too many fires not putting them out. It's something.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, interesting, So Dylan Gabriel qb one No, in all
seriousness though, regarding.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Hide or like a speeding tickets, not the end.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Of the world, not the ends after midnight sounds like
it was nice new vehicle. He's got probably a vaight
a lot of power.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
My question Colin is like, have you ever worked with
someone who you knew was on thin ice, and you're like, man,
they're looking for a reason to.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Get rid of that guy. He better not screw up.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And he makes one misstep and he's gone, hey, have
you ever worked with somebody in that realm?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Listen, when you fall to the fifth round and are
perceived as a first round quarterback, you are on thin ice.
And when there's a perception that the owner wanted you
drafted not the GM, you were on perilously thin ice.
They're not letting him practice with the ones Dylan gabriel is.
You're on even thinner ice. You can't get in trouble.
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You can't get in trouble. This is not good. Do
not minimize. I can assure you this. Andrew Berry and
Kevin Stefanski didn't go This is super duper well. They rolled.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
They probably were, you know, kind of we're looking at
the owner like see, I told you, But again, this
is just a speeding ticket.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I'm gonna remind you.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Dak Prescott had an incident before the draft.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Do you remember not great had an incident and.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
People were like, oh, how can you do that before
the draft?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Like where's the awareness? But but Dak Prescott, if you
went back to and I said, this the Dak Prescott
stuff I talked about on this show. And and you
know he did drop to the fourth round yea for
being a very good college quarterback. But Dak Prescott from
that moment on has been one of the best leaders
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yet period at any position in the NFL. I'm saying
it's not the end of the world, but when you
used to and there by the way, there were four
or five incidents. I saw one piece of video against
Nebraska where Chedeurs did some stuff on the field I
didn't love, like, like, there's there by the way, there
are people on the internet that will find you four
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five and six pieces of video in college where he
was a little into Shedeur Sanders not the greatest teammate,
right again, I stayed away from that, but when I watched,
when I watched the legendary draft room, I'm like, h dude,
a little again, if he's a cornerback. You know my
rule on this, I look at point guards and quarterbacks differently.
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I'm now, I look at it now and I'm just
this may be the last Sor Sanders segment. I do no, yeah,
I think it is over a speeding ticket. Colin again,
you're not listening. It's not a speeding ticket. It's multiple
incidents in college. It's the draft room, just like just
like you know, broadcasters, if your showed up and get ratings,
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you're on thin eye.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You overlooked all of that during the OTAs when he
was crushing.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
No, No, I didn't. I talked about it every day
that it was amazing. I've never overlooked a thing. I've
always gone over the top positive. J Mac. Let me
give you some guidance. It an old guy, Okay, very
few people in important positions. You're judged every day. I'm
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judged by management. It might and they like me every day.
Doesn't take many screw ups. Narratives change, and that's after success.
I mean, look at think how great Brady was. Belichick
was drafting quarterbacks every other year. Just in case Garoppolo
second round. They couldn't have used another receiver. If you
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don't think management's talking about I had a great agent
years ago. I had an agent. I brought him up
yesterday named Nick con Nick. Con the greatest advice I
ever got. He said, companies make a decision a year
before they tell you. I now own a company, I
make decisions six months before I tell anybody you think
upstairs in the building, They're just like, it's just you know,
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his foot got stuck on the get. It's not the
way it worked.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
If this is so weird, were in you were a
big shador guy. I was kind of anti they like
Dylan Gabriel. Now this and I find myself I kind
of want to defend Shaduur a little bit. But it's
it's not into by.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The way you. Let's say that. Let's let's not take
you or I. Somebody's watching or listening my show, Love
your wife, great kids, supportive, got your back. You walk in,
she's with a mailman. What does it not change everything?
I mean, it's not the end of the world. She's
not an axe murderer. Infidelity in an instant changes everything,
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and it's not the end of the world. It happens
all the time in relationships. It's something not appropriate.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Go ahead, How does he overcome this? Again, it's it's
not a great look. I don't think it's the end
of the world.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You know, I say it was for me. I didn't
says that for me. It's different now it's different. Sorry,
I'm out. Good luck fifth round.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You know what, I'm gonna go to a Reddit board
under CC and start posting some Dylan Hebel's demand. Get
on board the hype trade baby, Dylan Gabriel, Here he comes.
It's The Herd. We're back in a second.
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Speaker 1 (15:25):
All right, you're now entering the Noble Zone, sponsored by
Credible Great Rates. None of the ball. A report that
Lebron James is quote comfortable with the sale of the Lakers.
He's forty, He's played twenty two seasons. And and I'll
say this about the new ownership group of the Lakers,
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it's the ownership group of the Dodgers. That ownership group
and the front office moved off Cody Bellinger, a National
League MVP, Corey Seeger, a World Series MVP Max Schurzer.
They knew Man Machado was going to go to the
Podreys their arrival. All right, Sea, they could have paid
for all of them. They'll move off stars if Luca
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doesn't stay in shape, if Luca doesn't defend at a
higher level. They'll sign him to the summer Max. He'll
get his two hundred and twenty eight million. They'll move Offen,
they will move Offen. Kobe Bryant, in my opinion, had
too much control the last four or five years, and
Lebron in the last two or three, to me, has
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too much control. He's the ecosystem of the offense. And
doctor Buss loved family and friends and understood stars. There's
nothing wrong with that. But I think the Lakers, the Cowboys,
the Bengals have been run like mom and pop shops.
Too many friends and family not interested. I want the
best person, not the best last name. That's what I'm
looking for. So the Dodgers with this group have moved
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off MVPs, not just MVPs World series MVPs in their twenties, thirties,
young thirties, mid twenties don't move off guys. They don't care.
They prioritize winning. And the Bus family, to their credit,
has always understood the value of stars. They've been very
good about that. You can go, you can go, you know, Kareem.
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The Bus family didn't have but Magic Johnson, you know,
they understood it. Shaq, Kobe, they get it, lebron A
d They get it, okay, but you got to get
the right stars. When the Yankees signed John Carlos Stanton
when they've already got Aaron Judge in the building, duplication,
you got injuries with John Carlos Stanton. That's not a
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smart move. That's just bad money. He struggled with his health.
He's never really been as good as you think. And
you had a duplicate player who's better in the building,
a power hitter. So to me that it's not just money.
They will hold Luca accountable. And by the way, the
second richest ownership group in the NBA right now is
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the Dallas Mavericks. And they said, well, the max he
can make with the Mavericks is much greater than the
max with the Lakers. And they said, no, no, no,
he's getting hurt, he's not in shape, he won't defend.
You didn't do Walter group, And they got a lot
more sports. Property's in a lot more experience if Luca
doesn't get in shape. And I don't want to see
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another video of leg presses. He's a pro athlete. I
do leg presses. I'm in radio and television. I do
leg presses twice a week. I don't want to see
that video. I want to see the results, and I
want to see defense. All the great Laker players in
my lifetime, Jerry West, elite defender, Kareem elite defender, Lebron elite,
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Kobe in his prime, Shack in his prime, Gasol would
defend Anthony Davis, great defend, underrated defender, maybe the best
defender in the league the last two years, Luca, come on,
gotta do better. Gotta do better, all right, I mean
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Kobe has as many all defensive selections. The staff just
sent this as Kevin Garnett. I mean, Kobe was took
great pride in it, and you didn't have to send
me videos of you know, Lebron James doing leg presses
or or Jerry West pre TikToker pre ig. He was
doing leg presses. Okay, I don't need to see that video. Look,
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he's doing sit ups on an off day. Not interested
watch the games. Let me see results. Jmack with the news. No, no,
turn on the news.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Sorry, get that Pater out of my throat there. All right,
let's get started. Game six tonight in the NBA Finals
feels like it's over Tyrese Haliburton. They're calling him a
game time decision. He did take part in yesterday's practice,
which was a film session and a walkthrough with light shooting.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You what there on FS one.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You could see the calf kind of tighten up when
he went down there in uh in the last game, Colin,
it sounds like Caliburton will not play here. He is
talking about his status.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
You have to understand the risks. That's directions. But I'm
a competitor. I want to play. I'm gonna do everything
in my power to play, and uh, that's just what
it is. I'm questionable from time to time throughout the
course of the season, and they trust me to make
the right decision on my body when the power is
in my hands. And you know, I'm gonna try my
best to uh to do that. But I mean, you understand,
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I want to be out there, and you know that's
the plan.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's unclear, Colin if he was doing any running at practice.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
It sounds like there was some shooting. One thirteen, one
oh six. Okay, see, yeah, I don't hate that lower scoring.
I got where they can win.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
This is weird, Colin.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I know it's NBA Finals. To me, this is your third.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Best option on TV tonight. USA Soccer is number one. Obviously,
it's a massive.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yes USA satire.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
That's top game, and you know we can't lose that game.
Second is gonna be Caitlin Cork, which we'll talk about
here sertainly. But for me, I don't have a lot
of people saying, hey, Jay, any shot the Pacers come back.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I want tons of text chains. People are not If
Halla Burton was healthy, the series would have some juice
his inactivity or marginal playing. It's over. They're not beating
this team two times without him. This team is so
good at ball pressure on the perimeter that literally the
only way to beat them is with ball handling and
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ball movement. And the best guy arguably in the playoffs
has been Halla Burton at that. So it's it's not
gonna work. Yeah, it feels over all.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Right, Let's go to the next roy, which is the WNBA. Listen,
I know you don't agree with this, but the WNBA
has announced no suspensions following the fever sun What are
we calling it?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
A melee kerfuffle?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
A lot of flagrant fowls, multiple ejections, and I poked
there Caitlin Clark got decked.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I don't love this, Colin. I'll tell you why in
a second.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I think you gotta said, Notice, you can't just rough people.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Up like this.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, I don't like this. There's a lot of smart
people out there whose opinion I read or trust that
are like, hey, it's got to be a gotta be
a suspension for that. It's got to be just beyond
a flagrant or a technical foul, and that's a legit
you we can argue both sides, but I think there's
a legitimate argument for messaging. We're gonna suspend it for that.
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It may not be long, two game suspension, but I
think you can argue reasonably that it deserves a suspension.
And I wouldn't push back, you know, not everything I'm
definitive of on there are things that I'm like, Yeah,
either side's fine, and I think in this if you
think there should be a suspension, I'm good with that.
You can argue that.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So here's the other layer to this. So tonight the
Fever play the expansion team.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
The Golden State Valkyrie. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't follow their team or any of that. But
I read about a gambling guy does a write up
and he's been following this Golden State team. The number
one thing they do is physical defense. They get in
your face listen. And the league announced it based Oh,
no suspensions, It's fine. This expect this team to go
hard at Caitlin Clark tonight. I'm just putting it out there.
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I'm not saying there's gonna be a fight or anything,
but they play physical brand of basketball. Kitlin Clark better
get her enforcers because this is gonna be a theme.
And I'm excited for the Christine Brennan interview later. I
got the book as well. I'm very pro Kitlan Clark.
You know that Colin. I am worried that she's gonna
become a target in this league. People are jealous. Oh
she's our show poet, she's carrying the league.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, well I'm gonna show her.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I don't like some of this stuff that's whirling out there.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
That's fair and it makes me want to watch the game.
This game has more juice in the NBA Finals, no question,
no question.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Now, Lion final story is to Major League Baseball. Last
night had some drama Dodgers Padres.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Great rivalry.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Here we go. Let's set the scene.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
In the ninth inning, Will Smith steps up as a
pinch hitter.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Smith which is the fly ball right center field?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Tatis on the run, hit the Wontie track, hit the wall.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It is gone.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
It's gone.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Hey, this game is over. They celebrate in front of
the play Oh walk up, home run crew, Will Smith.
The Dodgers went in the ninth four to three.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I actually thought it was initially caught. How did not
cut that? I'm getting I mean, for a second, this
rivalry is so good. They have played now twenty four
times in the last two years, thirteen Dodger wins. I
think it's thirteen to eleven, and this was a go
either way. Again. This is there are so many great
players in this rivalry. It is insane how much talent
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these two teams. We saw these teams play last year
and I remember if they played the playoff game and
the Dodgers I remember, went with a bullpen game and
had did they shut him out or they had an
incredible I remember being just shocked because I thought the
momentum had swung in the Podreys favor. So the Dodgers
just have a way of always winning the big games
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in this series. But it's a it is a star
studded seven eight, nine elite players in this series minimum.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, Dodgers down five and one against the Padres this season,
kind of dominant, Colin. I know you don't want to
be hyping La, but between this Dodgers team that just
won the World Series, probably going back, Lakers new ownership
that's gonna spend to build around Luca. You got LAFCS
as a beast out here inside.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Why wouldn't I want you to HiPE La. I'm flying
their Sunday morn there.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I know the city awaits your arrival. By the way,
the Rams, I can't think according to you are going
to the super Bowl. The Chargers and Jim Harball like
everything's coming up at this.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
We've said this outside of USC All, the big brands
in Los Angeles. I mean, you say what you want
about the Lakers, but they're not I mean they're making
the playoffs. The West is very hard, the third scene
in the West not just making No it's right now.
Los Angeles has really really good ownership, the Dodgers, the
new Laker ownership, Steve Ballmer, They've got and they've got
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really good ownership, and a lot of cities don't. Stan
Kronkey obviously, Spano's family has done a good job. Harbaugh
and Justin Herbert and two great offensive tackles. They're spending
big money now. So a lot of this stuff is
how good are your local owners. LA's got really good
owners and really shrewd front offices are at bottom.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
The New York teams, the Jets owners one of the
worst in the league. Mara stepped in it recently. James
Dolan firing Thibodeau. By the way, I read this long
mixed piece last night. Oh my gosh, this Knick situation
is terrible.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Right now, I think we read the same piece.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I don't know if we'll talk about it later maybe
you know, but ah.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
New York, New York. Jmack with the News. Well that's
the news. And thanks for stopping that.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
The herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So again. Uh, the Caitlin's Clark stuff is fascinating. And
I've said this before. You can tell me you respect somebody,
but you respect somebody. I don't want lipstopers. How do
you treat them? Do you treat them as an equal?
And I've said from the very beginning with the WNBA.
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If you want to respect them, then judge them like men.
They're great, talented, competitive, intense athletes. Stop pandering. Put the
palm palms down, take down the protective shield. Caitlin Clark
is tough. She got a lot of Larry Bird. She
is feisty. So there there's a video that made the Internet.
(27:56):
It was yesterday and you could read what Caitlin Clark
was saying, right, and she got a little blowback on
that because at one point she said, hey, I can
do what I want, and everybody took that poorly. They're like, look,
I read an article this morning. She's telling J. C. Sheldon,
the NBA, the WNBA has got her back. No she's not.
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That's not what she's saying. She's saying, like Larry Bird
did when somebody got into his face. Okay, who's planning
for second place in the three point shooting contest. I'm
gonna do whatever I want, Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley Shack,
I'm gonna do whatever I want. That didn't mean the
WNBA or the NBA has the athletes back. Folks, if
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you could have had this same internet lip breeding quality
with MJ and Bird. I saw MJ and Bird after
their retirement. It was a few years ago. They met
at a game in the tunnel and they greeted each
other with smiles and mfs. That's how they talked, and
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that is how athletes talk. Cocky and confident is the
language of competition. Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Premier League, NFL,
NBA guys drop f bombs at each other and golf
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the next week at each other's charity. That's Caitlin Clark.
Stop treating this differently than you would treat a male athlete.
If you could read lips with those players, don't treat
them differently. And I said this yesterday. I have never
been a huge WNBA fan, but I've gone to games
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and I followed it. The quality of play over the
last ten years. Go look at the stats and the analytics. Bigger, stronger, faster,
jump better. It'll never be a vertical league like the NBA.
But this whole thing, well, you know what she's said.
I see these articles. She's saying, Hey, the WNBA, I
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can do what I want. I would argue the opposite
is true. The WNBA mangled her first year, gave her
a tougher schedule to start the season. WNBA. We'd argue
doesn't have her back enough. Christine Brennan on the show.
That's where she's arguing. What she's doing is cocky and
confident and self assured. And it's great. It's great for Caitlin,
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it's great for basketball players. You'll see college kids doing
it soccer, UFC swearing. Confidence over the top is the
that is the language of competition, from Silicon Valley to
Wall Street venture Capital and the WNBA. And I'm here
for it. Aj Perzinski. By the way, here's Caitlin Clark.
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She is a trash talker, much more than I thought.
But you're hearing it and read now here's Caitlin Clark
on her trash talk.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Everybody knows that's how I play, Like I want the
crowd behind me, Like they love when I get into
it with them too, Like they're here for a show,
and like that's what I try to give them every
single night. That's why we try to give them every
single night. And that's what makes it fun. This place
is basically full, and there's so many young girls and
young boys and adults and older men that you know
this might be their first WNBA game ever, and like
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you want to perform for them?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Love it you go. Dodgers, Padres, Albert Breer. We're just
starting and Aaron Rodgers is talking to somebody at FS one.
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Speaker 7 (31:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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Speaker 1 (31:49):
Well, they played in the bigs for nineteen years, multiple
time All Star, a World Series champ on the city.
Right now, I'm in the White Sox just down the
road from where we're at Fox Baseball. Analyst, always outspoken,
does a great job for Fox and teammates with guys
from Milkie Betts to Freddie Freeman. He's now joining us
live A J. Perzinski and I gotta start. You're gonna
(32:12):
be calling the Podres Royal Saturday at Fox. There. I
mean there is palpable animosity between the Dodgers and Podres.
You can see it. I mean it is jumps off
the television early innings. Did you have a team, Obviously
you want to win games a j but was it
ever personal? Was there a team you could not stand
in your career?
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Not player wise, honestly calling, not player wise fan wise.
Listen white Sox. I was a white Sox. People remember
me as a white Sox. Cubs it was Cup fans.
I mean I got in a huge fight with the Cubs.
People remember that. And Cubs fans were always a little
bit meaner to me than everyone else in it. But
it was nothing against the players that were their players.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
You played against you didn't like. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
But beanball wars, guess what, They're not fun if you're
getting thrown at, Coling, but they're fun to watch on
TV when guys are getting thrown at as long as
nobody's getting hurt.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
We get managers ejected.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
We got managers asking who the f certain players are
who they think they are? So this is good for baseball?
And yeah, you ask about Dodgers and Padres.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
They do not like each other.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Here's why I would be judicious if I was the
Dodgers show, Hey, O Tawny, who is now pitching? The
Dodgers have more stars, They got more guys you can
go after. Could I not argue this is not this
is not a battle you want to get into throwing
at people with the Padres.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Well no, but here's the thing, Colin. They have to
show them they're not afraid of them. Every team walks
into a series with the Dodgers and there are teams
out there that go, we can't beat them. Why are
we even wasting our time? The Padres they don't play
like that. Mike Schill, Manny Machado, Fernando Tatis, all of
these guys on the Padres, they don't play like that.
We ain't afraid of the Dodgers, so we're gonna show you.
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And they thought Andy po Hayes right, there was relaying signs,
Dylan see took a shot, right, So what do they do?
They throw at show Hey. The problem with the show
Hey thing is they missed and then they got to
take second chance. That shouldn't be how it goes. But
the Padres want to show the Dodgers we're not little
brother anymore. We're not afraid of you. We're gonna stand
up for our guys. And that's how you have to
do it in today's game, because you can't go out
there and take guys out a second and take run
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over the catcher. You got to do it by you know,
letting one get away by mistake.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Sometimes by the way, before we move off to Dodgers,
I've got to ask you you played with Mooky Betts
And I said this a couple of years ago. We
pay so much attention to O Tawny, and we should.
Betts is one of the also one of the most
remarkable athletes. His dexterity is insane. Now he can play
the infield. Why is he doing that? Get take me
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behind the scenes with Mooky.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Well, MOOKI came up as a second baseman. Don't forget.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
I was there when he made his major league debut
and the biggest thing I remember being on the Red
Sox going who's this little guys? And this guy got power?
And then we watched him take VP and I was like, Wow,
this dude is legit. And they moved to the right
field and he seamlessly moved from second bay to right field.
And then, honestly, I don't know this, but I think
Mookie got bored. He's like, I played right field for years,
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one goal gloves, one World Series. Oh you need me
to play short stuff, I'm gonna show the world I
can do that too. I don't know if there's anything
Mookie Bets can't do.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
All right, I want to talk about the Red Sox
have been making a habit of trading their best players
to the National League West, and that's why the National
League West is so great. So Raffie Devers gets moved
to San Francisco. I always wonder how it plays in
a locker room when you trade the best hitter on
your team and one of the ten or fifteen best
hitters and you don't get high end position starters in return.
(35:37):
Do you think it damages a locker room or do
you understand the trade? Because that whole situation with Devers
Cora was not good.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
No, and add in Breslo and John Henry right ad
in the whole Red Sox organization.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
So how does it play in the Red Sox?
Speaker 8 (35:53):
They're like, okay, because if you ask the players, I
haven't heard a lot of Red Sox players say anything
about this.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
That's what's been surprising to me.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
I heard a lot of front office people and Alex
Kora talk about it, but I haven't heard a player
really say, oh, Devers was a cancer or not a
good locker room guy. Because the guys I've talked to
you they like Raffi a lot, so I don't know
this was personal. John Henry and Craig Breslow and they
had to make a move. It wasn't a good relationship.
But if I'm buster posey the Giants, I know how
I reacted in their locker room. They were jumping up
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and up and down for joy when they found out
we got Raffi Devers for what. Wait we had a trick,
some prospects and offsets, some money. But wait, we got
one of the best hitters in the game. Oh, they're
jumping up it down in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
So I got to talk about the Yankees. J Mack
and I got into this yesterday. I said, you know,
the one Sodo deal was weird because the Yankees offered
him a fortune and there was reports that Steve Cohen
gave him a suite and the suite was the difference,
which is insane considering the whole thing. But you know what,
people want what they want. They want respect, and Cohen
came up and said, I'll give you up. I'll give
you a sweet And if you look at the Yankees
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when because there's no Sodo and Stanton was hurt, it
feels like to me and Garrett Cole's out for the year,
so they're to me. The two times they competed against
the Dodgers in the series is when Garrett Cole pitched.
I don't think they match up with the Dodgers. I'm
not sure they match up with a Podres. We'll see
in the post. See, they've always dominated the Yankees have
always dominated the Al Central, so they'll do fine against
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you know, Detroit or whoever comes out of that. But
my take is this, if Aaron Judge is not hitting
this this is a really top heavy lineup, and I think,
now is that like you're starting looking at that Soto
thing and you're like, maybe we should have given him
the suite. But again, when Aaron's doing Babe Ruth for
(37:36):
twenty four oh eight, But now Aaron's normal, He's hitting
like you know, average players do. Did Aaron Judge's early
season streak hide the truth about this Yankees team? In
this Yankee lineup, I.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
Don't know if it's it's that cut and dry, but
I will say this. When they lost to the Red Sox,
they didn't score any runs who didn't hit Aaron Judge.
Against the Angels, they haven't scored any runs who hasn't
hit Aaron Judge. And how do the Yankees have to
score runs. They have to hit home runs. Last night
they scored two runs, both solo homers. Look at the
rank Yankees rankings and numbers and extra innings. They are
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not good. They lose because they can't do the little things.
They are built on power and home runs as an offense.
That's why the Dodgers were able to beat them. Yes,
they could probably get through the American League with what
they have and survive because of the teams. But if
you go through the National League and you look Padres, Giants, Dodgers, Phillies, Mets,
even throw the Cubs in there, they're better than the
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Yankees one through twenty six.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
So that's where the problem was. The Yankees are about
winning World Series.
Speaker 8 (38:42):
But if Aaron Judge isn't superhuman and he doesn't hit,
and they don't hit home runs and put in the playoffs,
home runs are.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Harder to come by. It's a tough road for the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
So the Mark Walters group just bought the Lakers. They
had a little piece. They bought it, and I said
the start of the show, listen, they're smart. They hired
Andrew Friedman. They have the best analytics R and D.
As a former baseball player, nineteen years, multiple All Stars,
a World Series champ. I know the Dodgers have a
lot of money, so does Steve Cohen. What impresses you
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beyond just the dollars, because we found out a couple
of years ago with the Mets, you can't buy a
World Series. There's got to be chemistry, there's got to
be balance. What impresses you about their front office and
the way they're run.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Well, they're Andrew Freeman king from the Rays, right. They're
the Rays supersized because they can go out and get depth.
They do the same a lot of the same stuff
as the Rays, but they have money to spend on debt.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
And what they do is they made it a destination
to go to the Dodgers, and every player wants to
go play for them because you have a chance at
the World Series every year.
Speaker 8 (39:45):
And if you talk to any Dodger player, they give
you all the information, all anything you need. Whether it's
you want a sweet like one Sota wanted the sweet,
they'll give you a sweet you want to.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
They fight two planes, Colin.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
They're the only team in baseball that flies two planes,
one just for the players in one for everyone else.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
The support stuff. I've never heard of that. In the playoffs, yes,
but for a whole season. It's crazy to me.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
But they give these players everything, anything they want, and
they're always open for suggestions, which I love. Hey you
want this, oh, or can we be better for this?
And if you say yes, let's look at this or that,
they'll look into it. If they make sense, they'll do it.
They just redid both clubhouses in La right because why
they're too small. But they're making money and they put
the money back into the product. And that's why they're
great because of the depth they spend money, and they
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spend money the right way.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, good stuff, aj Perzinski. I appreciate you coming on
to There is a lot of stuff. The trade deadline
still a weighs down the line. That's why it maysh
surprised people on the Red Sox Giants move. But I
appreciate you stopping buy Aja.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
No prob Colin. Thanks for having me body, Good luck.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You bet it is. I'm telling you baseball is making
a renaissance. There's just a lot of interesting stuff and
there's you know, and I don't know this exactly or precisely,
so I don't want to just spitball. But ever since
the regional sports network which Fox sold years ago, those
I always felt were really valuable for the A's and
the Pirates and the Royals and the Reds. There is
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a much greater gap between the haves and have nots
in baseball. But if I'm a network, what do I care?
I got a broadcast like seven eight teams. I don't
have to broadcast the bottom half of the sport. The
top half of baseball, the Mets and the Yankees, and
the Braves and the Dodgers and the Padres and some
of these teams at the top. They got phillies, they
(41:30):
got dudes everywhere. There is a ton of talent. Now
it is concentrated largely on about eight teams. So what
I like watching the eight teams? The games faster, more runs,
more hitting, great drama. All right, we are done with
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We have so much to talk about. We are live.
It is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however
you may be listening, Thanks for making us part of
your day. We got aj Perzinski talking about the Podres
Dodgers rivalry, which is intense. Albert Greer. Christine Brennan has
(00:45):
got a new book out. I started it last night,
really interesting on Caitlin Clark. Christine Brennan's been very very
critical of the WNBA, and I think deservedly so. So
we got a lot on the data today Jmac. But
yesterday after the show there and we don't normally talk
a ton about this, but there was a sale. It
wasn't long ago. The Celtics sold for six billion. LA
(01:08):
is a much bigger market. They sold for ten billion
dollars yesterday and nobody eat. Laker fans aren't quite sure
how to react, and I'm here to tell you it
is a great day to be a Laker fan. So
the group that bought the Lakers already owned a part
of them, Mark Walter Group, really shrewd la resident. All
(01:30):
you have to do to wonder what's going to happen
to the Lakers is look at the Dodgers scouting research
and development facilities. Patients A plus plus plus plus sharp
due don't know him, no people that do. They spend
more money than any one, but they are very judicious.
They rarely miss. The Lakers have been a mom and
(01:53):
pop shop for years. It's Genie Bus and friends of
the family. That's cute. But this is twenty twenty five
and it's pro sports. The organization needs more juice, more financing,
more eyes, new eyes, and this is what they have.
They're going officially from dial up to fiber optic. Yesterday
(02:15):
was a great day to be a Laker fan. Now
the reports are well, Genie Buss will still be the governor.
She will still be in the front office. Yeah, and
that's what Mark Cuban told us when he sold the MAVs,
and then he didn't know about the Luca trade. That's
sort of a big deal. She's not going to have
any power now. I think she's done great in operations.
(02:38):
She's beloving Los Angeles, a really cool person. Having her
around the organization is awesome. But this is a whole
different bullget When you spend ten billion dollars to buy something,
you're going to have the final say. And that's what
the Lakers need. This Dodger group, I'm telling you man,
they update and upgrade constantly. They don't get money away.
(02:59):
They could have had many ado Nope, Corey Bellinger MVP,
Corey Seeger. They'll move off people since Mark Walter and
his group have arrived. Here's the reality. The Dodgers are
first or tied for first, and wins pennants titles, world
series titles. And I hear this stuff. I hear all
(03:21):
the fearmongers. Colin just another oligarc another billionaire that doesn't
care about the team. You want to know the worst
owners in my life, Ted Stepien, look it up, Donald Sterling,
Marg Shott. None of them were venture capitalists. None of them,
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like Mark Walter, were global asset managers, small thinkers, bad people.
Not this group. When you watch the Dodgers, man they
don't miss It's impressive. By the way a lot of
teams spend money. Yankees spend a lot of money. They're
top heavy. Dodgers never are so. Even the way they
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finance stuff deferred payments, they're always a step ahead. They
go and get the very best people. When they took
the Dodgers over, Andrew Friedman was the hot shot GM
in Tampa. They went and got him. They were working
on that Otawni deal three years when he was an angel.
Three years out they started working on that deal. I
would not be surprised if they doubled the r indeed
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doubled the scouting department. The Lakers have too many friends
and family. I'm looking for a meritocracy, not a barbecue.
This is a great day. Don't be afraid of something
that's been in the building for years now. They own
all of it. Okay, I think the Lakers. The Bus
(04:47):
family owned fifteen percent for a couple of years. Okay.
The media does something from time to time and it
kind of rubs me the wrong way. They pander, and
I get it. Athletes are young. I've said this before
about the NBA I'm not going to beat up on
young NBA players making mistakes. They come into the league
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at eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old, okay, but the NFL
is different. You come into the NFL at twenty two,
twenty three. Now some guys are staying in college for
and I'm el money maybe twenty five. And at the
quarterback position, I am harsh and punitives. The media again
(05:29):
tends to pand or too often. I warn Cleveland about
Johnny Manziel, Colin, you're overreacting. Uncle Colin was right. I
warned you that Baker was good but too immature. I
was right on that too, and Stefanski eventually showed him
the door. Baker now has grown up. I like this Baker,
but I was right, and I was right about the
(05:50):
Shan Watson creepy cringey. That's not a leader at that position.
So yesterday Shador Sanders got caught speeding over one hundred
miles an hour. He's a quarterback. Mike Tomlin often says
two is a trend. Can't screw up three or four times.
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Two is a trend? Just two times. I'm not sure
if I need two times When you're a young quarterback
one bad judgment turns me off. But I have now
in the last couple of months two things that really
turned me off. Wi shid Or Sanders, who I have
championed that cringey, awful legendary draft room. Bro, you're a
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b prospect. You know your dad's prime time who led
with his ego for years. You gotta have a little
self awareness. I had more than one GM say total turnoff.
Come on, it's not the end of the world. It's
a bad look. And now this one hundred miles an hour. Yep,
(06:55):
all you fanboys, go ahead. Manzell Baker. Deshaun Watson defended
it to the hilt on your Reddit account. Sorry, don't
minimize it, don't pander. This is not good for a quarterback,
not good as of today. And I've said this for years.
(07:16):
I do not cling to opinions, new information, new opinion.
I'm an airline pilot. We got a storm coming. Here's
the latest radar. I'm changing my route, not flying headfirst
into it. I don't think about him the same. There
was a moment I thought Will Levis, about four months
(07:39):
out from the draft, had a chance, and I turned
on Will Levis when he started showing up like a
bodybuilder gun show. And I had two NFL coaches, both
needing quarterbacks, who text me, got my number and text me.
They're like, this is the exact conversation we are having
in our building right now. Two coaches, head coaches. They're like, bro,
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we're laughing watching this. It matters. New information, legendary one
hundred miles an hour judgment is fifty percent of being
a quarterback when you fall to one forty four in
the draft and then try to match that number behind
the wheel of a car. Yeah, I don't think the same.
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You ignored signs with Manzielle and Baker, and apparently, based
on the traffic violation, Shador was avoiding some signs too,
the ones that say stop. I feel differently today. I'm
not as high on him. I'm not sure he's mature enough.
Now I'm gonna have to like Kenny Pickett. J Mac.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh, boy, I'm laughing at Kenny Pickett, not obviously the
Shador situation, but calling it.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's an interesting one to eighty from.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You, my guy going from Hey put him in the
Hall of Thame because of seven on seven drills in June,
and now it's like, well, he was going forty one
over the limit.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Let's say you know me, you and I are similar
this way new information, new opinion. And I said I
did not like the legendary draft room. It was cringey.
It's not the end of the world. But people reached out.
You add these two together, all you have to do
Cleveland Manzell Baker, I kept saying, Baker did to It
(09:30):
wasn't the end of the world. But it's something. It's
a lack of self awareness. You know, It's like your
shirt off posing with a tiger. It's like, bro, how
about you play game like one before you go super
model on us. But in the end, Stefanskiing and Andrew Berry,
two smart guys, were like, yeah, we just he's putting
he's starting too many fires not putting them out. It's something.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, interesting, So Dylan Gabriel qb one No, in all
seriousness though, regarding.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Hide or like a speeding tickets, not the end.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Of the world, not the ends after midnight sounds like
it was nice new vehicle. He's got probably a vaight
a lot of power.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
My question Colin is like, have you ever worked with
someone who you knew was on thin ice, and you're like, man,
they're looking for a reason to.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Get rid of that guy. He better not screw up.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And he makes one misstep and he's gone, hey, have
you ever worked with somebody in that realm?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Listen, when you fall to the fifth round and are
perceived as a first round quarterback, you are on thin ice.
And when there's a perception that the owner wanted you
drafted not the GM, you were on perilously thin ice.
They're not letting him practice with the ones Dylan gabriel is.
You're on even thinner ice. You can't get in trouble.
(10:39):
You can't get in trouble. This is not good. Do
not minimize. I can assure you this. Andrew Berry and
Kevin Stefanski didn't go This is super duper well. They rolled.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
They probably were, you know, kind of we're looking at
the owner like see, I told you, But again, this
is just a speeding ticket.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I'm gonna remind you.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Dak Prescott had an incident before the draft.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Do you remember not great had an incident and.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
People were like, oh, how can you do that before
the draft?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Like where's the awareness? But but Dak Prescott, if you
went back to and I said, this the Dak Prescott
stuff I talked about on this show. And and you
know he did drop to the fourth round yea for
being a very good college quarterback. But Dak Prescott from
that moment on has been one of the best leaders
(11:27):
yet period at any position in the NFL. I'm saying
it's not the end of the world, but when you
used to and there by the way, there were four
or five incidents. I saw one piece of video against
Nebraska where Chedeurs did some stuff on the field I
didn't love, like, like, there's there by the way, there
are people on the internet that will find you four
(11:48):
five and six pieces of video in college where he
was a little into Shedeur Sanders not the greatest teammate,
right again, I stayed away from that, but when I watched,
when I watched the legendary draft room, I'm like, h dude,
a little again, if he's a cornerback. You know my
rule on this, I look at point guards and quarterbacks differently.
(12:09):
I'm now, I look at it now and I'm just
this may be the last Sor Sanders segment. I do no, yeah,
I think it is over a speeding ticket. Colin again,
you're not listening. It's not a speeding ticket. It's multiple
incidents in college. It's the draft room, just like just
like you know, broadcasters, if your showed up and get ratings,
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you're on thin eye.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You overlooked all of that during the OTAs when he
was crushing.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
No, No, I didn't. I talked about it every day
that it was amazing. I've never overlooked a thing. I've
always gone over the top positive. J Mac. Let me
give you some guidance. It an old guy, Okay, very
few people in important positions. You're judged every day. I'm
(12:58):
judged by management. It might and they like me every day.
Doesn't take many screw ups. Narratives change, and that's after success.
I mean, look at think how great Brady was. Belichick
was drafting quarterbacks every other year. Just in case Garoppolo
second round. They couldn't have used another receiver. If you
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don't think management's talking about I had a great agent
years ago. I had an agent. I brought him up
yesterday named Nick con Nick. Con the greatest advice I
ever got. He said, companies make a decision a year
before they tell you. I now own a company, I
make decisions six months before I tell anybody you think
upstairs in the building, They're just like, it's just you know,
(13:42):
his foot got stuck on the get. It's not the
way it worked.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
If this is so weird, were in you were a
big shador guy. I was kind of anti they like
Dylan Gabriel. Now this and I find myself I kind
of want to defend Shaduur a little bit. But it's
it's not into by.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The way you. Let's say that. Let's let's not take
you or I. Somebody's watching or listening my show, Love
your wife, great kids, supportive, got your back. You walk in,
she's with a mailman. What does it not change everything?
I mean, it's not the end of the world. She's
not an axe murderer. Infidelity in an instant changes everything,
(14:26):
and it's not the end of the world. It happens
all the time in relationships. It's something not appropriate.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Go ahead, How does he overcome this? Again, it's it's
not a great look. I don't think it's the end
of the world.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You know, I say it was for me. I didn't
says that for me. It's different now it's different. Sorry,
I'm out. Good luck fifth round.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You know what, I'm gonna go to a Reddit board
under CC and start posting some Dylan Hebel's demand. Get
on board the hype trade baby, Dylan Gabriel, Here he comes.
It's The Herd. We're back in a second.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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Speaker 1 (15:25):
All right, you're now entering the Noble Zone, sponsored by
Credible Great Rates. None of the ball. A report that
Lebron James is quote comfortable with the sale of the Lakers.
He's forty, He's played twenty two seasons. And and I'll
say this about the new ownership group of the Lakers,
(15:47):
it's the ownership group of the Dodgers. That ownership group
and the front office moved off Cody Bellinger, a National
League MVP, Corey Seeger, a World Series MVP Max Schurzer.
They knew Man Machado was going to go to the
Podreys their arrival. All right, Sea, they could have paid
for all of them. They'll move off stars if Luca
(16:07):
doesn't stay in shape, if Luca doesn't defend at a
higher level. They'll sign him to the summer Max. He'll
get his two hundred and twenty eight million. They'll move Offen,
they will move Offen. Kobe Bryant, in my opinion, had
too much control the last four or five years, and
Lebron in the last two or three, to me, has
(16:28):
too much control. He's the ecosystem of the offense. And
doctor Buss loved family and friends and understood stars. There's
nothing wrong with that. But I think the Lakers, the Cowboys,
the Bengals have been run like mom and pop shops.
Too many friends and family not interested. I want the
best person, not the best last name. That's what I'm
looking for. So the Dodgers with this group have moved
(16:50):
off MVPs, not just MVPs World series MVPs in their twenties, thirties,
young thirties, mid twenties don't move off guys. They don't care.
They prioritize winning. And the Bus family, to their credit,
has always understood the value of stars. They've been very
good about that. You can go, you can go, you know, Kareem.
(17:13):
The Bus family didn't have but Magic Johnson, you know,
they understood it. Shaq, Kobe, they get it, lebron A
d They get it, okay, but you got to get
the right stars. When the Yankees signed John Carlos Stanton
when they've already got Aaron Judge in the building, duplication,
you got injuries with John Carlos Stanton. That's not a
(17:33):
smart move. That's just bad money. He struggled with his health.
He's never really been as good as you think. And
you had a duplicate player who's better in the building,
a power hitter. So to me that it's not just money.
They will hold Luca accountable. And by the way, the
second richest ownership group in the NBA right now is
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the Dallas Mavericks. And they said, well, the max he
can make with the Mavericks is much greater than the
max with the Lakers. And they said, no, no, no,
he's getting hurt, he's not in shape, he won't defend.
You didn't do Walter group, And they got a lot
more sports. Property's in a lot more experience if Luca
doesn't get in shape. And I don't want to see
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another video of leg presses. He's a pro athlete. I
do leg presses. I'm in radio and television. I do
leg presses twice a week. I don't want to see
that video. I want to see the results, and I
want to see defense. All the great Laker players in
my lifetime, Jerry West, elite defender, Kareem elite defender, Lebron elite,
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Kobe in his prime, Shack in his prime, Gasol would
defend Anthony Davis, great defend, underrated defender, maybe the best
defender in the league the last two years, Luca, come on,
gotta do better. Gotta do better, all right, I mean
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Kobe has as many all defensive selections. The staff just
sent this as Kevin Garnett. I mean, Kobe was took
great pride in it, and you didn't have to send
me videos of you know, Lebron James doing leg presses
or or Jerry West pre TikToker pre ig. He was
doing leg presses. Okay, I don't need to see that video. Look,
(19:25):
he's doing sit ups on an off day. Not interested
watch the games. Let me see results. Jmack with the news. No, no,
turn on the news.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Sorry, get that Pater out of my throat there. All right,
let's get started. Game six tonight in the NBA Finals
feels like it's over Tyrese Haliburton. They're calling him a
game time decision. He did take part in yesterday's practice,
which was a film session and a walkthrough with light shooting.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You what there on FS one.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You could see the calf kind of tighten up when
he went down there in uh in the last game, Colin,
it sounds like Caliburton will not play here. He is
talking about his status.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
You have to understand the risks. That's directions. But I'm
a competitor. I want to play. I'm gonna do everything
in my power to play, and uh, that's just what
it is. I'm questionable from time to time throughout the
course of the season, and they trust me to make
the right decision on my body when the power is
in my hands. And you know, I'm gonna try my
best to uh to do that. But I mean, you understand,
(20:32):
I want to be out there, and you know that's
the plan.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's unclear, Colin if he was doing any running at practice.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
It sounds like there was some shooting. One thirteen, one
oh six. Okay, see, yeah, I don't hate that lower scoring.
I got where they can win.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
This is weird, Colin.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I know it's NBA Finals. To me, this is your third.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Best option on TV tonight. USA Soccer is number one. Obviously,
it's a massive.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yes USA satire.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
That's top game, and you know we can't lose that game.
Second is gonna be Caitlin Cork, which we'll talk about
here sertainly. But for me, I don't have a lot
of people saying, hey, Jay, any shot the Pacers come back.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I want tons of text chains. People are not If
Halla Burton was healthy, the series would have some juice
his inactivity or marginal playing. It's over. They're not beating
this team two times without him. This team is so
good at ball pressure on the perimeter that literally the
only way to beat them is with ball handling and
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ball movement. And the best guy arguably in the playoffs
has been Halla Burton at that. So it's it's not
gonna work. Yeah, it feels over all.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Right, Let's go to the next roy, which is the WNBA. Listen,
I know you don't agree with this, but the WNBA
has announced no suspensions following the fever sun What are
we calling it?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
A melee kerfuffle?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
A lot of flagrant fowls, multiple ejections, and I poked
there Caitlin Clark got decked.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I don't love this, Colin. I'll tell you why in
a second.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I think you gotta said, Notice, you can't just rough people.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Up like this.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, I don't like this. There's a lot of smart
people out there whose opinion I read or trust that
are like, hey, it's got to be a gotta be
a suspension for that. It's got to be just beyond
a flagrant or a technical foul, and that's a legit
you we can argue both sides, but I think there's
a legitimate argument for messaging. We're gonna suspend it for that.
(22:37):
It may not be long, two game suspension, but I
think you can argue reasonably that it deserves a suspension.
And I wouldn't push back, you know, not everything I'm
definitive of on there are things that I'm like, Yeah,
either side's fine, and I think in this if you
think there should be a suspension, I'm good with that.
You can argue that.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So here's the other layer to this. So tonight the
Fever play the expansion team.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
The Golden State Valkyrie. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't follow their team or any of that. But
I read about a gambling guy does a write up
and he's been following this Golden State team. The number
one thing they do is physical defense. They get in
your face listen. And the league announced it based Oh,
no suspensions, It's fine. This expect this team to go
hard at Caitlin Clark tonight. I'm just putting it out there.
(23:26):
I'm not saying there's gonna be a fight or anything,
but they play physical brand of basketball. Kitlin Clark better
get her enforcers because this is gonna be a theme.
And I'm excited for the Christine Brennan interview later. I
got the book as well. I'm very pro Kitlan Clark.
You know that Colin. I am worried that she's gonna
become a target in this league. People are jealous. Oh
she's our show poet, she's carrying the league.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, well I'm gonna show her.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I don't like some of this stuff that's whirling out there.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
That's fair and it makes me want to watch the game.
This game has more juice in the NBA Finals, no question,
no question.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Now, Lion final story is to Major League Baseball. Last
night had some drama Dodgers Padres.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Great rivalry.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Here we go. Let's set the scene.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
In the ninth inning, Will Smith steps up as a
pinch hitter.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Smith which is the fly ball right center field?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Tatis on the run, hit the Wontie track, hit the wall.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It is gone.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
It's gone.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Hey, this game is over. They celebrate in front of
the play Oh walk up, home run crew, Will Smith.
The Dodgers went in the ninth four to three.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I actually thought it was initially caught. How did not
cut that? I'm getting I mean, for a second, this
rivalry is so good. They have played now twenty four
times in the last two years, thirteen Dodger wins. I
think it's thirteen to eleven, and this was a go
either way. Again. This is there are so many great
players in this rivalry. It is insane how much talent
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these two teams. We saw these teams play last year
and I remember if they played the playoff game and
the Dodgers I remember, went with a bullpen game and
had did they shut him out or they had an
incredible I remember being just shocked because I thought the
momentum had swung in the Podreys favor. So the Dodgers
just have a way of always winning the big games
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in this series. But it's a it is a star
studded seven eight, nine elite players in this series minimum.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, Dodgers down five and one against the Padres this season,
kind of dominant, Colin. I know you don't want to
be hyping La, but between this Dodgers team that just
won the World Series, probably going back, Lakers new ownership
that's gonna spend to build around Luca. You got LAFCS
as a beast out here inside.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Why wouldn't I want you to HiPE La. I'm flying
their Sunday morn there.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I know the city awaits your arrival. By the way,
the Rams, I can't think according to you are going
to the super Bowl. The Chargers and Jim Harball like
everything's coming up at this.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
We've said this outside of USC All, the big brands
in Los Angeles. I mean, you say what you want
about the Lakers, but they're not I mean they're making
the playoffs. The West is very hard, the third scene
in the West not just making No it's right now.
Los Angeles has really really good ownership, the Dodgers, the
new Laker ownership, Steve Ballmer, They've got and they've got
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really good ownership, and a lot of cities don't. Stan
Kronkey obviously, Spano's family has done a good job. Harbaugh
and Justin Herbert and two great offensive tackles. They're spending
big money now. So a lot of this stuff is
how good are your local owners. LA's got really good
owners and really shrewd front offices are at bottom.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
The New York teams, the Jets owners one of the
worst in the league. Mara stepped in it recently. James
Dolan firing Thibodeau. By the way, I read this long
mixed piece last night. Oh my gosh, this Knick situation
is terrible.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Right now, I think we read the same piece.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I don't know if we'll talk about it later maybe
you know, but ah.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
New York, New York. Jmack with the News. Well that's
the news. And thanks for stopping that.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
The herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So again. Uh, the Caitlin's Clark stuff is fascinating. And
I've said this before. You can tell me you respect somebody,
but you respect somebody. I don't want lipstopers. How do
you treat them? Do you treat them as an equal?
And I've said from the very beginning with the WNBA.
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If you want to respect them, then judge them like men.
They're great, talented, competitive, intense athletes. Stop pandering. Put the
palm palms down, take down the protective shield. Caitlin Clark
is tough. She got a lot of Larry Bird. She
is feisty. So there there's a video that made the Internet.
(27:56):
It was yesterday and you could read what Caitlin Clark
was saying, right, and she got a little blowback on
that because at one point she said, hey, I can
do what I want, and everybody took that poorly. They're like, look,
I read an article this morning. She's telling J. C. Sheldon,
the NBA, the WNBA has got her back. No she's not.
(28:18):
That's not what she's saying. She's saying, like Larry Bird
did when somebody got into his face. Okay, who's planning
for second place in the three point shooting contest. I'm
gonna do whatever I want, Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley Shack,
I'm gonna do whatever I want. That didn't mean the
WNBA or the NBA has the athletes back. Folks, if
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you could have had this same internet lip breeding quality
with MJ and Bird. I saw MJ and Bird after
their retirement. It was a few years ago. They met
at a game in the tunnel and they greeted each
other with smiles and mfs. That's how they talked, and
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that is how athletes talk. Cocky and confident is the
language of competition. Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Premier League, NFL,
NBA guys drop f bombs at each other and golf
(29:24):
the next week at each other's charity. That's Caitlin Clark.
Stop treating this differently than you would treat a male athlete.
If you could read lips with those players, don't treat
them differently. And I said this yesterday. I have never
been a huge WNBA fan, but I've gone to games
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and I followed it. The quality of play over the
last ten years. Go look at the stats and the analytics. Bigger, stronger, faster,
jump better. It'll never be a vertical league like the NBA.
But this whole thing, well, you know what she's said.
I see these articles. She's saying, Hey, the WNBA, I
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can do what I want. I would argue the opposite
is true. The WNBA mangled her first year, gave her
a tougher schedule to start the season. WNBA. We'd argue
doesn't have her back enough. Christine Brennan on the show.
That's where she's arguing. What she's doing is cocky and
confident and self assured. And it's great. It's great for Caitlin,
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it's great for basketball players. You'll see college kids doing
it soccer, UFC swearing. Confidence over the top is the
that is the language of competition, from Silicon Valley to
Wall Street venture Capital and the WNBA. And I'm here
for it. Aj Perzinski. By the way, here's Caitlin Clark.
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She is a trash talker, much more than I thought.
But you're hearing it and read now here's Caitlin Clark
on her trash talk.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Everybody knows that's how I play, Like I want the
crowd behind me, Like they love when I get into
it with them too, Like they're here for a show,
and like that's what I try to give them every
single night. That's why we try to give them every
single night. And that's what makes it fun. This place
is basically full, and there's so many young girls and
young boys and adults and older men that you know
this might be their first WNBA game ever, and like
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you want to perform for them?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Love it you go. Dodgers, Padres, Albert Breer. We're just
starting and Aaron Rodgers is talking to somebody at FS one.
It's the Herd.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and noone Easter not a Empacific.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Well, they played in the bigs for nineteen years, multiple
time All Star, a World Series champ on the city.
Right now, I'm in the White Sox just down the
road from where we're at Fox Baseball. Analyst, always outspoken,
does a great job for Fox and teammates with guys
from Milkie Betts to Freddie Freeman. He's now joining us
live A J. Perzinski and I gotta start. You're gonna
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be calling the Podres Royal Saturday at Fox. There. I
mean there is palpable animosity between the Dodgers and Podres.
You can see it. I mean it is jumps off
the television early innings. Did you have a team, Obviously
you want to win games a j but was it
ever personal? Was there a team you could not stand
in your career?
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Not player wise, honestly calling, not player wise fan wise.
Listen white Sox. I was a white Sox. People remember
me as a white Sox. Cubs it was Cup fans.
I mean I got in a huge fight with the Cubs.
People remember that. And Cubs fans were always a little
bit meaner to me than everyone else in it. But
it was nothing against the players that were their players.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
You played against you didn't like. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
But beanball wars, guess what, They're not fun if you're
getting thrown at, Coling, but they're fun to watch on
TV when guys are getting thrown at as long as
nobody's getting hurt.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
We get managers ejected.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
We got managers asking who the f certain players are
who they think they are? So this is good for baseball?
And yeah, you ask about Dodgers and Padres.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
They do not like each other.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Here's why I would be judicious if I was the
Dodgers show, Hey, O Tawny, who is now pitching? The
Dodgers have more stars, They got more guys you can
go after. Could I not argue this is not this
is not a battle you want to get into throwing
at people with the Padres.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Well no, but here's the thing, Colin. They have to
show them they're not afraid of them. Every team walks
into a series with the Dodgers and there are teams
out there that go, we can't beat them. Why are
we even wasting our time? The Padres they don't play
like that. Mike Schill, Manny Machado, Fernando Tatis, all of
these guys on the Padres, they don't play like that.
We ain't afraid of the Dodgers, so we're gonna show you.
(33:50):
And they thought Andy po Hayes right, there was relaying signs,
Dylan see took a shot, right, So what do they do?
They throw at show Hey. The problem with the show
Hey thing is they missed and then they got to
take second chance. That shouldn't be how it goes. But
the Padres want to show the Dodgers we're not little
brother anymore. We're not afraid of you. We're gonna stand
up for our guys. And that's how you have to
do it in today's game, because you can't go out
there and take guys out a second and take run
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over the catcher. You got to do it by you know,
letting one get away by mistake.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Sometimes by the way, before we move off to Dodgers,
I've got to ask you you played with Mooky Betts
And I said this a couple of years ago. We
pay so much attention to O Tawny, and we should.
Betts is one of the also one of the most
remarkable athletes. His dexterity is insane. Now he can play
the infield. Why is he doing that? Get take me
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behind the scenes with Mooky.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Well, MOOKI came up as a second baseman. Don't forget.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
I was there when he made his major league debut
and the biggest thing I remember being on the Red
Sox going who's this little guys? And this guy got power?
And then we watched him take VP and I was like, Wow,
this dude is legit. And they moved to the right
field and he seamlessly moved from second bay to right field.
And then, honestly, I don't know this, but I think
Mookie got bored. He's like, I played right field for years,
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one goal gloves, one World Series. Oh you need me
to play short stuff, I'm gonna show the world I
can do that too. I don't know if there's anything
Mookie Bets can't do.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
All right, I want to talk about the Red Sox
have been making a habit of trading their best players
to the National League West, and that's why the National
League West is so great. So Raffie Devers gets moved
to San Francisco. I always wonder how it plays in
a locker room when you trade the best hitter on
your team and one of the ten or fifteen best
hitters and you don't get high end position starters in return.
(35:37):
Do you think it damages a locker room or do
you understand the trade? Because that whole situation with Devers
Cora was not good.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
No, and add in Breslo and John Henry right ad
in the whole Red Sox organization.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
So how does it play in the Red Sox?
Speaker 8 (35:53):
They're like, okay, because if you ask the players, I
haven't heard a lot of Red Sox players say anything
about this.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
That's what's been surprising to me.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
I heard a lot of front office people and Alex
Kora talk about it, but I haven't heard a player
really say, oh, Devers was a cancer or not a
good locker room guy. Because the guys I've talked to
you they like Raffi a lot, so I don't know
this was personal. John Henry and Craig Breslow and they
had to make a move. It wasn't a good relationship.
But if I'm buster posey the Giants, I know how
I reacted in their locker room. They were jumping up
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and up and down for joy when they found out
we got Raffi Devers for what. Wait we had a trick,
some prospects and offsets, some money. But wait, we got
one of the best hitters in the game. Oh, they're
jumping up it down in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
So I got to talk about the Yankees. J Mack
and I got into this yesterday. I said, you know,
the one Sodo deal was weird because the Yankees offered
him a fortune and there was reports that Steve Cohen
gave him a suite and the suite was the difference,
which is insane considering the whole thing. But you know what,
people want what they want. They want respect, and Cohen
came up and said, I'll give you up. I'll give
you a sweet And if you look at the Yankees
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when because there's no Sodo and Stanton was hurt, it
feels like to me and Garrett Cole's out for the year,
so they're to me. The two times they competed against
the Dodgers in the series is when Garrett Cole pitched.
I don't think they match up with the Dodgers. I'm
not sure they match up with a Podres. We'll see
in the post. See, they've always dominated the Yankees have
always dominated the Al Central, so they'll do fine against
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you know, Detroit or whoever comes out of that. But
my take is this, if Aaron Judge is not hitting
this this is a really top heavy lineup, and I think,
now is that like you're starting looking at that Soto
thing and you're like, maybe we should have given him
the suite. But again, when Aaron's doing Babe Ruth for
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twenty four oh eight, But now Aaron's normal, He's hitting
like you know, average players do. Did Aaron Judge's early
season streak hide the truth about this Yankees team? In
this Yankee lineup, I.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
Don't know if it's it's that cut and dry, but
I will say this. When they lost to the Red Sox,
they didn't score any runs who didn't hit Aaron Judge.
Against the Angels, they haven't scored any runs who hasn't
hit Aaron Judge. And how do the Yankees have to
score runs. They have to hit home runs. Last night
they scored two runs, both solo homers. Look at the
rank Yankees rankings and numbers and extra innings. They are
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not good. They lose because they can't do the little things.
They are built on power and home runs as an offense.
That's why the Dodgers were able to beat them. Yes,
they could probably get through the American League with what
they have and survive because of the teams. But if
you go through the National League and you look Padres, Giants, Dodgers, Phillies, Mets,
even throw the Cubs in there, they're better than the
(38:37):
Yankees one through twenty six.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
So that's where the problem was. The Yankees are about
winning World Series.
Speaker 8 (38:42):
But if Aaron Judge isn't superhuman and he doesn't hit,
and they don't hit home runs and put in the playoffs,
home runs are.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Harder to come by. It's a tough road for the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
So the Mark Walters group just bought the Lakers. They
had a little piece. They bought it, and I said
the start of the show, listen, they're smart. They hired
Andrew Friedman. They have the best analytics R and D.
As a former baseball player, nineteen years, multiple All Stars,
a World Series champ. I know the Dodgers have a
lot of money, so does Steve Cohen. What impresses you
(39:13):
beyond just the dollars, because we found out a couple
of years ago with the Mets, you can't buy a
World Series. There's got to be chemistry, there's got to
be balance. What impresses you about their front office and
the way they're run.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Well, they're Andrew Freeman king from the Rays, right. They're
the Rays supersized because they can go out and get depth.
They do the same a lot of the same stuff
as the Rays, but they have money to spend on debt.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
And what they do is they made it a destination
to go to the Dodgers, and every player wants to
go play for them because you have a chance at
the World Series every year.
Speaker 8 (39:45):
And if you talk to any Dodger player, they give
you all the information, all anything you need. Whether it's
you want a sweet like one Sota wanted the sweet,
they'll give you a sweet you want to.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
They fight two planes, Colin.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
They're the only team in baseball that flies two planes,
one just for the players in one for everyone else.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
The support stuff. I've never heard of that. In the playoffs, yes,
but for a whole season. It's crazy to me.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
But they give these players everything, anything they want, and
they're always open for suggestions, which I love. Hey you
want this, oh, or can we be better for this?
And if you say yes, let's look at this or that,
they'll look into it. If they make sense, they'll do it.
They just redid both clubhouses in La right because why
they're too small. But they're making money and they put
the money back into the product. And that's why they're
great because of the depth they spend money, and they
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spend money the right way.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, good stuff, aj Perzinski. I appreciate you coming on
to There is a lot of stuff. The trade deadline
still a weighs down the line. That's why it maysh
surprised people on the Red Sox Giants move. But I
appreciate you stopping buy Aja.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
No prob Colin. Thanks for having me body, Good luck.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You bet it is. I'm telling you baseball is making
a renaissance. There's just a lot of interesting stuff and
there's you know, and I don't know this exactly or precisely,
so I don't want to just spitball. But ever since
the regional sports network which Fox sold years ago, those
I always felt were really valuable for the A's and
the Pirates and the Royals and the Reds. There is
(41:07):
a much greater gap between the haves and have nots
in baseball. But if I'm a network, what do I care?
I got a broadcast like seven eight teams. I don't
have to broadcast the bottom half of the sport. The
top half of baseball, the Mets and the Yankees, and
the Braves and the Dodgers and the Padres and some
of these teams at the top. They got phillies, they
(41:30):
got dudes everywhere. There is a ton of talent. Now
it is concentrated largely on about eight teams. So what
I like watching the eight teams? The games faster, more runs,
more hitting, great drama. All right, we are done with
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