July 8, 2025 • 41 mins
Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington fill-in for The Herd and wonder who ‘misled’ who between Kirk Cousins and the Falcons. Patrick Mahomes wants to get back to having fun. LaVar pays fines for his play. Plus, trouble with he Dodgers and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
It is a Herd Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas
Knox in for Colin.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
You can also listen on hundreds of affiliates all across
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
LaVar and I do a show alongside.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Brady Quinn weekday morning six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific,
significantly earlier than this show lot earlier, but you can't
hear us day mornings on two Pros and a Cup
of Joan when there's no Brady Quinn and it's just
LeVar and I.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We like to refer to ourselves as.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Black and Drackah because I look like Dracula and LeVar
I'm black. Yeah, So it's pretty pretty simple for those
of you listening here and trying to figure out who's
who that would be, what that is. So I am Drack,
he's black, and we are often running here on this
Tuesday morning here, and you know, apparently not everybody feels
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like they were told the truth from time to time.
You know, some people feel like in the NFL that
maybe if they would have had some different information, maybe
things would.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Have gone a little bit, a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I guess on the opposite spectrum with how they made
their decisions and how they opted to make those career
choices during the course of their illustrious, high paying NFL employment.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And one of those guys is none other.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Than Kirk Cousins, who was featured on Netflix's Quarterback Season two,
and he talked about the decision to go to Atlanta
and how well had I known that.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Maybe I wouldn't have made that move.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I wasn't expecting us to take a quarterback so high
at the time, it felt like I had been a
little bit misled, or certainly if I had the information
around free agency, it certainly would have affected my decision.
I had no reason to leave Minnesota with how much we.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Loved it there.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
If both teams are going to be drafting a quarterback high.
But I've also learned in twelve years in this league
that if you're not entitled anything, it's all about being
able to earn your spot and prove yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So that's the last part is the best part of it.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I mean, you've been in the league long enough to
understand that they handle things the way they handle things,
and you make your decision based off of the information
that you have and the possibilities of what could take
place beyond that period. Like that's about it. Like it's
a pretty open shut situation. Like, Okay, how many other
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players do you think have been misled that are in
a position of choosing in free agency? Like anybody could
come up with a reason as to why they feel
like they've been misled. What the bottom line is is
you have a job. It's a great paying job. You
are paid as a starter. They took a quarterback. It
wasn't Michael Pennix that you took your job or you
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didn't get a fair opportunity. You played your.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Way out of the job.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
It's like you misled the Atlanta Falcons. They didn't feel
like they were gonna have to use Michael Pennix that early.
But they had to because you got the hips like
you got hit, you didn't want to get hit anymore.
You start turning the ball over, you start playing poorly,
and they felt like they needed to switch it up
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and see if they could get a spark because you
weren't playing well.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Is that is that fair? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Although I would say this if your Kirk Cousins, I
wonder if part of him not playing well obviously he's
coming off the injury, but he even alluded to, you know,
just sort of having to learn an entirely new offense,
having to learn all of these new things. That also
adding that on top of the fact that you drafted
a quarterback as high as you did. I just think
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when you take a quarterback that high in the draft,
the clock starts sticking. And I wonder if Cousins felt
a certain way and could just never let it go
when he got to the season, because he can say
all the right things like, you know, listen, anything can
happen in the NFL to business.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think that he looked at that and it.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Was always in the back of his mind, like I'm
out here, I'm with this team, I'm with this organization.
Yet they went and did something that I did not expect.
They went and did something that had I known that,
I wouldn't have left Minnesota, because he was successful in Minnesota.
And I wonder if that added to the pressure that
he felt in trying to go out and perform and
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all doing so while coming back from the same injury
that Aaron Rodgers suffered, and we saw that played out
and he suffered it later in the year.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Well, if you wanted to stay in Minnesota, and you
had the opportunity to stay in Minnesota, you make your choice.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You make your choice.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
If the value is there for you to want to stay,
then you stay. But you made a choice. So there's
no reason to come back after all this time and
say you were misled or I would have stayed in Minnesota.
Minnesota was easily, clearly the best situation for you to
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be in personnel wise. You have an amazing receiving corps.
You got a dope tight end, you got a good
offensive line, you got a running back, you got a
pretty decent defense. You were in position pole position to
take over to the NFC North and be a competitor
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in the North. And oh, by the way, They did
it with Sam Donald. They did it with Sam Donald.
Don't say I thought I had a great situation here
and this, that and the other, and I could have
did this and they were going to draft a quarterback,
then they're going to draft a quarterback. Aaron Rodgers had
to deal with them drafting quarterbacks multiple drafts, multiple times.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But I think her Cousins he talked with Minnesota and
they let their intentions be known. Hey, by the way,
we'd love to have you back, but we are going
to address the quarterback position in the draft. They were
upfront with him, which is why he made the decision
to go to Atlanta, because he said, look, I understand
that I don't want to be in that situation, so
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I'm gonna go sign somewhere else where I can be
the guy.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And I know that.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Oops turns around that they drafted a quarterback too, And
Kirk Cousins is like, well, if I would have known that,
it would just stayed. I would have just stayed in
Minnesota and there wouldn't have been any issue whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And they wanted to keep him, Kevin O'Connell wanted to
keep him. But it's you know, it just goes to
show you that you can't have it all because everyone
talks about Kirk Cousins and and you know he's he's
won in the you know, the business of business in
the NFL and contracts and guarantees and all that stuff.
And right when you think that you've got it all
figured out, and hey, look I appreciate it, but I'm
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gonna go somewhere else. I'm gonna make a ton of money,
and you guys are going to draft a quarterback in
the future. All good, it's business here. Then business came
back and bit him in the ass a little bit,
and you know he's in a bad spot. So he
got his contract. He got his contract. What type of
a bad spot is he in? He didn't get the
contract of a backup. He got the contract of a starter.
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You're you've got the contract of a starter.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Your team didn't definitively take a strong step in winning
last year. Atlanta is still a question mark team. Michael Pennix.
People are excited about him, but it's still a question
mark question mark for him at quarterback as to what
he can do for this team. I think he may
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have released this prematurely. There's no reason for you to
put this out there. The bottom line is you might
have ended up in the same exact situation in Minnesota.
You might have got the yips, you might have played bad,
and maybe JJ McCarthy doesn't get hurt, maybe he takes
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your position. Maybe you're a backup with a starting quarterback
salary and you have to eat it like anybody else
who loses their job. And one of the most competitive
industries that exists in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I think he took on too much, to be honest
with you. I think he got to Atlanta and he
took on recovering from an injury, learning an entirely new system.
Oh and by the way, the clock's ticking because we
just drafted a guy eighth overall.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
So all you got to do is eliminate. Eliminate one
of those those components. If you're in maybe even two,
you eliminate because he has to still deal with coming
off of the injury, even if he's in Minnesota. And
as far as going and learning a new offense, that
would be the only one that you would eliminate because
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you were still going to have to fight if they
kept Kirk Cousins. I do not believe that that impacts
if they take a quarterback or not. In fact, I
think that that's why Kirk Cousins got the hell out
of that. Yeah, because they told him that we're taking
a clue in the end if he decided to stay.
If you decide to stay and they draft a quarterback,
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all of the circumstances he's facing except the playbook are
still in play. You gotta try to come back from
off of the injury. You gotta come back, and you
gotta hold off the rookie. It's happened before. It's happened before,
there have been quarterbacks that have been established quarterbacks for
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their team. Somebody gets drafted and they're competing for that job.
In fact, for what it's worth, outside of it being
a high draft pick, that's the only thing that makes
it a more valuable conversation because the bottom line is
every single roster spot, not just starting, every single roster
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spot is an intense battle to get it. It's like
playing It's like having the most amazing athletes play musical
chairs with one seat.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Who's going to get it?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
That's the NFL. So to me, you got to always
be prepared to compete. So, whether it was a high
draft pick or not. Who's ever backing you up. They
want They most likely want to start. They most likely
want your job so that they can put themselves in
position where they can ask for the type of money
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you're making. You're always competing, So there's no to me,
there's no such thing as in this type of scenario,
in this in this topic line that you can say
you were misled, because the bottom line is if you
don't understand coming into the National Football League that you
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just got drafted or you just got hired to take
somebody else's job for lesser money. And that's every single
person that's brought in. If you don't understand that coming in,
then you're behind. You're behind. You can't mislead somebody. Oh,
I thought I was coming in just to be the starter.
You're just gonna only have me as a starter. No,
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there's somebody there that if they can get the same
results from you like a Sam Darnold, and they don't
have to pay you what they pay a Patrick Mahomes
or Dak Prescott or Joe Burrow. If they don't have
to pay that, that's who they're going with until they can't.
That's why rookie contracts are so important. I don't have
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to pay you for being amazing. I got three four
years that I can go maybe more, maybe longer if
I want, and I can get that talent at this price.
Bottom line. I feel bad for Kirkcatsis. You should let
me tell you why.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Why because this would have been the equivalent to the
seventy two Dolphins perfect season. When it came to the
business standpoint of the NFL, he could have walked away
and said, got them all beat. Everybody, got franchise tagged
twice in Washington, got all that money, and then became
the first guy to get a fully guaranteed contract. He
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even dangled Minnesota and the Jets against each other and
then sold everybody on. I took three million dollars less
to go play in Minnesota because I liked it more.
And then he was about to get another extension. All
of a sudden, he gets an injury and he says,
you know what, Oh, you're going to draft a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
No worry, I'll continue this bank heist. I'll go to
another bank in Atlanta and I'll take from them. And
he was about ready to get out of there coming
off an injury with all those hundreds of millions of
guarantees that he's got, and all of a sudden, the
damn Falcons front office is waiting outside with a squad
car and they scoop him up. And there goes this
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perfect run in the NFL business world, gone man up
and vanished like a fart in the wind. Could have
been perfect, everything lined up just right, and the damn
Falcons ruined it all. Feel bad for Kirk Cousins. He
got the contract. Yeah, now he's stuck as a backup.
He's trying to get the hell out of there. Hold on,
hold on, It's all about perspective again. Let me reiterate.
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He could have been stuck as the backup at Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, but he liked it there. It was perfect, Everything
was perfect.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Well, didn't take a pay cut and go back, take
a pay kite, go back they misled you, get back
some of that signing bonus and go back, he was
to me, to me, yeah, right, to me, he's.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Already he's already won.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
It's not he didn't blimish his perfect record of handling
business at at.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
A at a high level, not at all.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
He got his contract, he wasn't misled on his contract.
He wasn't misled on them numbers. Now, if he comes
out and he says some of this stuff is based
off of incentives and escalators and laying time, Okay, I
get that. If you were misled that way, he has
a legitimate right, he has a legitimate gright. But as
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far as I'm concerned, the reason why he's in the
Hall of Fame of doing business and doing contract is
because he gets his money. The money that he's going
to get, he's going to get whether he's a backup
or whether he's a starter. And if that's the case,
he's already winning. You're winning. Michael Pennix has all the
pressure on him. If he doesn't prove out they didn't
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move you. You're to back up. Something jumps off, you
get back in, take your shot, and then whatever happens next,
you leverage it to maybe try to get.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Another deal out of it. That's how it works.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
No reason to have hard feelings, no need to feel
sorry for him, and no need to be a victim
in the matter. Hey, you know, Kirk, I support you, man,
you know your pursuit for perfection and all of a sudden,
the Falcon's ruined it all.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's too bad, man.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
It is The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Jonas Knox in for calling here on FSR. By the way,
coming up later on Bruce Feldman's going to stop by.
We've got some very interesting information about a big time
move that took place in the world of college football,
and we're gonna have the herdline news, all the fun
stuff here on this three hour extravaganza coming up next
(16:21):
here though, somebody is saying, you know what, last year
was a bit too much. It's all about the revenge
Tour this year in the NFL, and that's yours right
here on FSR.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
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Speaker 2 (16:42):
Hey, what's up everybody?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
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Speaker 2 (16:49):
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Speaker 3 (17:23):
It is the Herd Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas
Knox in for Colin. Coming up in about twenty minutes
from now, we are going to have the first installment
of the Herdline News starring the one and only Ryan Music.
That'll be yours here again twenty minutes from now here.
On FSR, we do have a team that's going full
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red ass mode this year and that team, Puffy Bottom,
would be the Kansas City Chiefs. The Kansas City Chiefs
who find themselves in unfamiliar territory getting exposed in the
Super Bowl. Philly put a clowns shoot on them early
and that game was over before halftime. And Patrick Mahomes
of the Kansas City Chiefs spoke with Kay Adams on
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upping Adams, and he talked to you know, let's have
some fun again, all right, Let's get back to the
good old days.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
I think it's just us having fun again. I mean,
I mean, it's it's always been fun playing on the
Kansas City Chiefs, and that's what makes it special. And
I feel like last year, I don't want to say
it was pressure, but guys wanted to go out there
and win every single week, and not for the fun
in the game, just because we're supposed to. Let's go
out there and have fun. I mean, the wins will
come if we play the way that we're We know
we can play. We have the talent, we had, the coaches,
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we work harder than anybody in the NFL. So let's
go out there and have fun and let the results
handle it.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So so it's going to be different looking Chiefs this year.
Not so much pressure, not trying to go for three
in a row, none of that garbage. Get back to
the good old days. Just go out there and sling
it and put a smile on your face. I mean,
it's great to maskt that way. The loss certainly hit
the reset on the record setting amount of when in
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the Super Bowl. It cleared out the dynasty talk. Maybe
for a summer, a summer maybe well there's still a dynasty,
aren't they?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Are they?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I would think, so, yeah, maybe one more. Really they
got two, right, I think they've got three three super Bowls. Yeah,
it's a dynasty. It's a dynasty. But but okay, well
then let's say greatest dynasty.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
If you set a record on three straight, that's pretty
that's pretty fly. That's pretty fly.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Biz. I think it's good because they are finding ways.
You'll always see and hear stories from the greatest to
ever do it. Whether they're teams, whether it's players, whether
it's a coach, they always find a way to motivate themselves,
to inspire themselves. And a lot of times is made
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up because they're still the most elite football team in
the National Football League. There you go, hey, kill them all.
They are still the gold standard of what a team
is supposed to be, how they're supposed to be ran, coached, players, quarterback,
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you name it. They had more talent this year and
they probably do feel less pressure because winning one Super
Bowl feels very different than trying to win the third
in a row Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And look at how they delivered on that.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Under those circumstances, they were still able to deliver an
appearance in the Super Bowl, So imagine a better team,
perceivably a better football team, more talent than what they
had last year, more at least more weapons. For Patrick Mahomes,
it's probably going to be a more explosive defense, a
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more explosive offense. The defense did most of the carrying
last year. If the offense resurfaces and is more and
is more aggressive and putting up points like they did before,
then now you're talking about that restoring of the balance
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that you saw when the Cheetah was on the team,
and it was the Cheetah and Kelsey. There's the possibility
that they could have an offense as dynamic and with
plenty of explosive plays with this team that they have
coming in this season. So of course Patrick Mahomes is
going to be excited. They're going to have a burr,
you know, and and they're going to get after it
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because they came up short and they probably felt like
that's one that they let get away that would have
been in the record books forever. So I mean, give
credit where credit is due. At least they're not in
a place of complacency. That's what you should be concerned about.
If we're listening to a quote from Patrick Mahomes and
it's like, uh, you know, we've won a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
You know, we just get to work. It's the off
season and.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
You know, we'll get to the season and we'll see,
we'll see how it goes. I mean, we've won a
lot here, We've had a lot of great success. So
with the runs that we've had, this run that we've
had during this time, mom, you know, I mean, everything's
got to be everything's got to be a positive, a
bonus from from here on out because we've delivered so
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much to you.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You know, it's wild.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
The Chiefs are so unrelatable to just about every single
fan base and organization in the league. All that they've
known since Patrick Mahomes became the full time starter is
AFC Championships or Super Bowls, and the two AFC title
games they lost, they lost in overtime. Other than that,
they're going to the Super Bowl every year and they're
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at least in the conversation to win an their title.
There are fan bases starving out there. They just want one.
Can we make one of.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
The super Bowl bases that are just starving to make
it to the playoffs. I went to the playoffs two
times in my career, and one I was playing one.
I was into it and you, I mean you basically
assaulted Chris Simms.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And the other one. Didn't you. I was playing in
that one. Didn't you burst his spleen?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I think maybe I think we might have got I
don't know. I don't. I don't think that was me.
I think LeVar almost killed Chris Sims. I might I
might have.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
It's been a while. I remember the interception and I
got knocked out, but oh I was out. I fumbled too,
By the way, it was a fumble. They didn't rule
it all fumble, but that was a fumble. That was
a fumble.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Who hits you? I was a lineman. I don't. I
don't remember. I still don't remember to this day.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
But I might have hit him pretty hard. And I
don't remember me hitting heart in that game. I remember
San Taylor spitting Pittman's face. I think he got kicked
out of that game too.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You're spitting Michael Pittman's face like that.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
They talk about a yeah, Taylor though, talk about Guy
Villa versus King Kong. I mean, that would have been
a nice little matchup. Plus we would have not let
anything happen to Seawan and then a Mike would have
had to deal with me. Then we would all been
kicked out because I would have been whooping ass. Everybody
would have been whooping ass. So but I was knocked out?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
That gay? What you got?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
What are we looking at here?
Speaker 9 (24:34):
According to the Google machine, LeVar Arrington did intercept Chris
Sims in a pivot playoff game. But there's no evidence
of you physically hitting Chris.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
So what if you just, like, if you put it
into AI, did LeVar Arrington kill Chris Simms?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Like, what would show up there?
Speaker 9 (24:49):
That's what you put in physically, no evidence of physically
harming Chris Sims.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Will listen.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I feel like that's reckless AI reporting there. But nonetheless,
like it wasn't Chris Simms, it was it was Brad Johnson.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Well, but Chris Simms did have the burst spleen or
something like that in that game. I'm almost positive there
was a playoff game Chris Simms went out because and
Gruden was the coach, right, Gruden was the coach for
Tampa at that time. Yeah, LaVar had to forced fumble
in that game. Look at that, Yeah, you really did
kill him. I forced a fumble eight tackles at forced
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fumble in an interception.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Hell yeah, I might. I might have hurting. I might
have hurting, Like I'm pretty sure, Chris Simms, that's the
hell of a game. By the way, separate internal bleeding.
I'm telling you, I was a beast when I when
I played. I mean eight.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Tackles a sack of I n t that. That's the
hell of a game. I mean, that's probably better than
any other linebacker or defensive player that I had a game.
That's that's an MVP performance. He really didn't remember.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Didn't know. Damn I did, all right.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I used to be something then butting radio with you
tell you man, Then it all went down.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Hill ever since.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Now told you man, you are at the top of
the top and now you're doing radio midday with Count Chocolate.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
How most cursed. We almost had to dump out and
it was it was a f bomb. You went.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
You were teammates with Bruce Smith, Dion Sean Taylor. Do
you look over to your left and you got me
Geryl green Mark carrier.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Guy with two dumb tattoos. Marco Coleman a truck from
the nineties in the parking lot, and he's got a
he's got a thorn bush, a thorn bush.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Around his arm and his dog on his back. You
know my had the mighty fall. Yeah, it's all good
man part too.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
It is.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
That's why I rocked my great beard and I wear
my little image glasses. I like to be incognito because
you know, this is who I am now, this is where.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
We are, That's what we're doing. This is what we're
doing now.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
The subject though, of the playoff run for the Kansas
City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes talking about just getting back
to having fun again. I just I hope that he
and he probably won't until his career is over, but
I hope that he and Chiefs fans and that entire
organization understand how good they have it. I hope that
they really do understand it, because sometimes you can get
(27:23):
caught up in the weeds on you know, just sort.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Of oh well, listen, it's the grind day to day.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Patrick Mahomes also talked to Tom Brady's been talking to
Tom Brady a lot this from Upp and Adams, and
he spoke about the advice he's gotten from TV twelve.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
He always talks about being yourself. He thinks that which
I truly believe too, is that guys can spot when
you're not authentic and you're not putting in the work.
And that's something that he did every single day. That's
why guys respect him so much. And that's all I'm
going to do with the rest of my career. And
I feel like I've done so far as I'm always
myself no matter if you like me or if you
don't like me, you know that I'm giving everything I
can to win the football game.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
So Brady giving him all the advice. Brady was a
guy who struck me as was constantly worried about the
grind and never satisfied with what he had. And even
Brady probably looks at the start of Patrick Mahomes's career
and goes, damn man, there's been no literally no decline
with the Chiefs since Patrick Mahomes is twn you the
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toughest division.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yes, it's not like he's doing it in a week
as division, He's got to go to work every single year.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It's not been easy.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
So the road that he's had the ho he's been
doing it on some real treacherous train and he's still.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Been able to navigate it. That's the biggest question here.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
As long as Patrick Mahomes stays healthy, you got to
assume the process is in play. The understanding of what
the defense needs to deliver and what the offense needs
to do in order for them to win is all solidified.
If Patrick Mahomes were to go down, is that the
(29:06):
death of their successful run? That has to be His
health has to be maybe the biggest question in terms
of moving forward. As long as he can stay healthy,
which he has been known to get nicked up, you
know that ankle, like his ankles giving giving trouble at times.
(29:28):
If he were to go down, do they have a
contingency plan where they can still be the effective team
that they are when they have I mean, obviously they're
not going to be as good as they would be
with him in there. Do they have a contingency plan
where they can still win games if they were to
(29:49):
lose Patrick Mahomes for an extended amount of times. Yes,
And you know who that is, Gardner Minshew, what are
you worried about? I'll say this and that and that
offensive scheme he probably would thrive.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Hey, listen, Minshi's actually played a lot better than people realize. Like,
if you just go look at his numbers. That guy's
going to be in the NFL for a long time.
You know, the Raiders were a bit of a rough spot.
By the way, we're gonna have to edit some of
the podcast. Apparently Chris Sims was hurt against the Carolina Panthers,
or if you could use there, you go, Yeah, that's
what I'm showing, that he burst him.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I might have hurt him though, I might have hurting,
but I don't think I did. I do know that
something happened to Brad Johnson's ribs in pre season when
I hit him. Now, if you want to look that
one up, Lee looked that I got fined like ten
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
For a legal hit. I legally hit him.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
The man still had the ball in his hand and
I hit him, and I knocked the spirit, soul, mind,
everything loose and some of it out of his body.
If I gotta find ten thousand dollars, I'd sell my son.
I gotta get that money backs.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
By the way, that fumble you forced was returned for
a touchdown in that seventeen ten victory.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
From Sean Taylor. I didn't realize that. Dam You really
have to falling a long way. Look at me, Just
look to your left. This is life, the memories. That's
all you really can look for is just to live
in the memories. I guess fifteen thousand for striking an
opponent in the head. I'm not sure if that's the
(31:29):
right one that we're looking at. I got that, yep,
thousand for taunting. Yeah, what was his career five? All right,
that's twenty thousand.
Speaker 9 (31:35):
That's my career fines thirty five total, thirty five grand. Yeah,
I'll try to look for the other ones. So far,
thirty five so far.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I was the highest fine dude in the league one
year until Harball or somebody somebody got hit in the
Chicago Bears game. Jim Miller, Jim Miller. Jim Miller kind
of annihilated. And that fin took was that Hugh Douglas
who was that? It was? Yeah, his fine pushed him
(32:06):
to the top. I was number one on the list,
and you Douglas took it on that hit in the
Chicago game. Yeah, he took it away from me. Well, look,
I was hitting people in the head though, I'll tell
you that. If there's one thing I was doing, I
was what they call targeting. That's why I was a
(32:26):
missile to your cranium. I was a missile.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
That's how I used to in my mind, Like I'd
be lining up in the game, right, I'd be in
the game.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Here we go, Sam sitting there looking like like all right,
here we godopop.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Seg hud out of there. Out of there. Only thirty
five grand. It's not bad.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Hey, man got how a thirty five and some of
those fines, I mean maybe those are like my physical
fines because I was getting fined, like dudes wear their
uniforms the way they want to wear their uniforms. Now
I was wearing. I was getting fined for having my sock.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
To like, Hey, George Pickens got fined over two hundred
grand last year by the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
So I didn't get fined by the team. I got
fined by the league. Well, the league was fine, league.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
The league was finding me for my uniform violations and
hitting people in the hit.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Dan Snyder never find you because being there was a
fine enough. So he should have been fine for being
the owner. Yeah, some would say he did.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
It.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Is uh still looking for him to pay some of
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Yeah right, music, Yeah, come on the bar, Come on Zonus, Yeah,
come lie, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Then trouble.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Unfortunately, we do have to start a little negative. Dodgers
dropped their fourth game in a row following a.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Loss to the Brewers last night.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
They've now been outscored thirty eight to seven in the
that four game losing streak.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
That's what's going on the bar. That's well.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
The good news is their depleted pitching rotation is getting
some much needed relief with the return of their all
star pitcher Tyler Glasnow, who's expected to make a start
tomorrow against the Brewers in the final game of the series.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I mean, it's a last he could do. Signed a
big time contract and just kind of kind of hanging out.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
He didn't last season, had twenty two starts, but then
was injured for their playoff run. They obviously went on
to win the World Series without him, and then, as
you pointed out, uh, he has not pitched after making
five starts this season.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So yes, a.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Hopefully a rebound year. For him as the Dodgers pitching
staff could really use some healthy arms. They they were
talked about as having ten deep, like you could literally
have two rotations with the Dodgers based on how much
they start, how many starters they had before the year.
And now they're looking around going, we got to make
a move with the deadline, like we have to do
(36:17):
something because nobody can stay healthy. Blake snell Glass, Now
all these guys are getting banged up and say, all right,
I mean, but if there's an organization that was going
to go get aggressive and try and make a move
that it was going to.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Be down totally.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
And to your point, like coming into this year, it was, well,
they're so deep, they can just bring back o Tani
whenever they feel like it, no big deal.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Maybe he pitches this year, Maybe he does it.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Now it's to the point where it's like, I mean, look,
do we think Gotani can get some full starts in
by the All Star Breaking?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Why not? I mean, that's how desperate they're looking.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
But by the way, people are under selling what he's
trying to do, He's basically trying to do his rehab
assignments at the major league level because he can't afford
to lose his bat.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
So he's not like normally he would be in the
minors and he'd be whatever. So instead he's starting against
actual big league hitters in real games because they need
as they need his bat and.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Play a part and why they're losing. He's throwing a
hundred miles an hour. It's guys, very fast, yeah, so
very fast fast ball.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
And what's also remarkable about the Dodgers and the season
that they are having is that despite being on a
four game losing streak, still six games.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Up in the division.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Oh yeah, no, need, no need to panic there. But
obviously it's sort of a all sight set on the
World Series, and in order to do that, they're going
to need some health in their starting rotation. All right,
let's stir our attention to the NFL. A lot of
questions about the Cowboys entering this season. Got a first
year head coach, Dak Prescott coming back from another injury.
(37:53):
How does George Pickens fit into the offense. Well, let's
add left tackle to that list as well. Dallas is
looking for their twenty twenty four first round pick, Tyler
Geiton to make big strides in year two. And here's
what a time pro bowler Tyron Smith had to say
about his development, telling the Dallas Morning News, he just
needs a little technique work, which he's doing right now.
(38:15):
I feel like it's going to be a different type
of year for him. Slow the game down, get the
rookie nerves out. Cowboys. Uh, they're gonna need some huge
improvements out of Geyiton, who graded fifty seventh out of
fifty eight qualified tackles according to pff lush.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
That's not a very good rate ranking. Damn, that's not
very fifty seven out of fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, it could have been fifty nine. You're gonna find that.
You gonna find the positive in this. He wasn't last.
He wasn't last. Ye, you gotta find the positives here I.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Mean and everybody else. I mean, if you're not first,
you're last. That's a good point, I though. Yeah, I
wants to be the first loser. All the second play
is the first loser. Yeah, I think so, that's what
they say, right, Yeah, all the plays is the first one.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I have heard the Dak prescottson like the best shape
of his life, going coming into a training camp up
in Knox Nard who as they call it.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
So I don't know if I don't know if that's
what's so funny here. I don't know if uh strawberries
and Knox nor I don't know if there's any validity
to that, but there is some some optimism. I'm to
look the Cowboys, that's your team.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
They they butchered, They butchered the Mike McCarthy negotiations and
then ended up settling on somebody on staff who didn't
even call plays last year. And this is like not
a knock on Brian Schottenheimer. And then his whole thing
is we're gonna look, we're gonna shake it up, and
we're gonna move everybody's lockers. It just feels like they're
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scrambling to come up with a plan. Meanwhile Michael Parsons
is looking to get paid. That just there's a lot
going on there.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Man.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
They should be dangerous with Dak Prescott as a quarterback,
fine quarterback, Pickens and Lamb receivers one and two. That's nasty.
The potential of that is pretty it's pretty high. So
it's like ferguson, what are you going to do if
it doesn't work out this year? On the offensive side
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of the ball.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
What are you going to blame it on?
Speaker 4 (40:18):
So maybe that's why it's news that you got to
have your offensive line in the right right place. But yeah,
that feels like the biggest point for but the possibly
multiple Hall of famers on their line of scrimmage for
the last ten years and they did absolutely nothing with that.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
So that's a great point. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
They got to throw that ball, slating that peel, so whatever,
I mean, that's the proper summing of it.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
But summing up so whatever, whatever, just wait and see,
let's wait, see.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
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Speaker 3 (01:05):
Black and Drackah because I look like Dracula and LeVar
I'm black. Yeah, So it's pretty pretty simple for those
of you listening here and trying to figure out who's
who that would be, what that is. So I am Drack,
he's black, and we are often running here on this
Tuesday morning here, and you know, apparently not everybody feels
(01:31):
like they were told the truth from time to time.
You know, some people feel like in the NFL that
maybe if they would have had some different information, maybe
things would.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Have gone a little bit, a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I guess on the opposite spectrum with how they made
their decisions and how they opted to make those career
choices during the course of their illustrious, high paying NFL employment.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And one of those guys is none other.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Than Kirk Cousins, who was featured on Netflix's Quarterback Season two,
and he talked about the decision to go to Atlanta
and how well had I known that.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Maybe I wouldn't have made that move.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I wasn't expecting us to take a quarterback so high
at the time, it felt like I had been a
little bit misled, or certainly if I had the information
around free agency, it certainly would have affected my decision.
I had no reason to leave Minnesota with how much we.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Loved it there.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
If both teams are going to be drafting a quarterback high.
But I've also learned in twelve years in this league
that if you're not entitled anything, it's all about being
able to earn your spot and prove yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So that's the last part is the best part of it.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I mean, you've been in the league long enough to
understand that they handle things the way they handle things,
and you make your decision based off of the information
that you have and the possibilities of what could take
place beyond that period. Like that's about it. Like it's
a pretty open shut situation. Like, Okay, how many other
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players do you think have been misled that are in
a position of choosing in free agency? Like anybody could
come up with a reason as to why they feel
like they've been misled. What the bottom line is is
you have a job. It's a great paying job. You
are paid as a starter. They took a quarterback. It
wasn't Michael Pennix that you took your job or you
(03:33):
didn't get a fair opportunity. You played your.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Way out of the job.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
It's like you misled the Atlanta Falcons. They didn't feel
like they were gonna have to use Michael Pennix that early.
But they had to because you got the hips like
you got hit, you didn't want to get hit anymore.
You start turning the ball over, you start playing poorly,
and they felt like they needed to switch it up
(03:57):
and see if they could get a spark because you
weren't playing well.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Is that is that fair? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Although I would say this if your Kirk Cousins, I
wonder if part of him not playing well obviously he's
coming off the injury, but he even alluded to, you know,
just sort of having to learn an entirely new offense,
having to learn all of these new things. That also
adding that on top of the fact that you drafted
a quarterback as high as you did. I just think
(04:25):
when you take a quarterback that high in the draft,
the clock starts sticking. And I wonder if Cousins felt
a certain way and could just never let it go
when he got to the season, because he can say
all the right things like, you know, listen, anything can
happen in the NFL to business.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think that he looked at that and it.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Was always in the back of his mind, like I'm
out here, I'm with this team, I'm with this organization.
Yet they went and did something that I did not expect.
They went and did something that had I known that,
I wouldn't have left Minnesota, because he was successful in Minnesota.
And I wonder if that added to the pressure that
he felt in trying to go out and perform and
(05:05):
all doing so while coming back from the same injury
that Aaron Rodgers suffered, and we saw that played out
and he suffered it later in the year.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Well, if you wanted to stay in Minnesota, and you
had the opportunity to stay in Minnesota, you make your choice.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You make your choice.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
If the value is there for you to want to stay,
then you stay. But you made a choice. So there's
no reason to come back after all this time and
say you were misled or I would have stayed in Minnesota.
Minnesota was easily, clearly the best situation for you to
(05:51):
be in personnel wise. You have an amazing receiving corps.
You got a dope tight end, you got a good
offensive line, you got a running back, you got a
pretty decent defense. You were in position pole position to
take over to the NFC North and be a competitor
(06:12):
in the North. And oh, by the way, They did
it with Sam Donald. They did it with Sam Donald.
Don't say I thought I had a great situation here
and this, that and the other, and I could have
did this and they were going to draft a quarterback,
then they're going to draft a quarterback. Aaron Rodgers had
to deal with them drafting quarterbacks multiple drafts, multiple times.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But I think her Cousins he talked with Minnesota and
they let their intentions be known. Hey, by the way,
we'd love to have you back, but we are going
to address the quarterback position in the draft. They were
upfront with him, which is why he made the decision
to go to Atlanta, because he said, look, I understand
that I don't want to be in that situation, so
(06:57):
I'm gonna go sign somewhere else where I can be
the guy.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And I know that.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Oops turns around that they drafted a quarterback too, And
Kirk Cousins is like, well, if I would have known that,
it would just stayed. I would have just stayed in
Minnesota and there wouldn't have been any issue whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And they wanted to keep him, Kevin O'Connell wanted to
keep him. But it's you know, it just goes to
show you that you can't have it all because everyone
talks about Kirk Cousins and and you know he's he's
won in the you know, the business of business in
the NFL and contracts and guarantees and all that stuff.
And right when you think that you've got it all
figured out, and hey, look I appreciate it, but I'm
(07:33):
gonna go somewhere else. I'm gonna make a ton of money,
and you guys are going to draft a quarterback in
the future. All good, it's business here. Then business came
back and bit him in the ass a little bit,
and you know he's in a bad spot. So he
got his contract. He got his contract. What type of
a bad spot is he in? He didn't get the
contract of a backup. He got the contract of a starter.
(07:56):
You're you've got the contract of a starter.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Your team didn't definitively take a strong step in winning
last year. Atlanta is still a question mark team. Michael Pennix.
People are excited about him, but it's still a question
mark question mark for him at quarterback as to what
he can do for this team. I think he may
(08:25):
have released this prematurely. There's no reason for you to
put this out there. The bottom line is you might
have ended up in the same exact situation in Minnesota.
You might have got the yips, you might have played bad,
and maybe JJ McCarthy doesn't get hurt, maybe he takes
(08:47):
your position. Maybe you're a backup with a starting quarterback
salary and you have to eat it like anybody else
who loses their job. And one of the most competitive
industries that exists in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I think he took on too much, to be honest
with you. I think he got to Atlanta and he
took on recovering from an injury, learning an entirely new system.
Oh and by the way, the clock's ticking because we
just drafted a guy eighth overall.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
So all you got to do is eliminate. Eliminate one
of those those components. If you're in maybe even two,
you eliminate because he has to still deal with coming
off of the injury, even if he's in Minnesota. And
as far as going and learning a new offense, that
would be the only one that you would eliminate because
(09:41):
you were still going to have to fight if they
kept Kirk Cousins. I do not believe that that impacts
if they take a quarterback or not. In fact, I
think that that's why Kirk Cousins got the hell out
of that. Yeah, because they told him that we're taking
a clue in the end if he decided to stay.
If you decide to stay and they draft a quarterback,
(10:04):
all of the circumstances he's facing except the playbook are
still in play. You gotta try to come back from
off of the injury. You gotta come back, and you
gotta hold off the rookie. It's happened before. It's happened before,
there have been quarterbacks that have been established quarterbacks for
(10:27):
their team. Somebody gets drafted and they're competing for that job.
In fact, for what it's worth, outside of it being
a high draft pick, that's the only thing that makes
it a more valuable conversation because the bottom line is
every single roster spot, not just starting, every single roster
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spot is an intense battle to get it. It's like
playing It's like having the most amazing athletes play musical
chairs with one seat.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Who's going to get it?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
That's the NFL. So to me, you got to always
be prepared to compete. So, whether it was a high
draft pick or not. Who's ever backing you up. They
want They most likely want to start. They most likely
want your job so that they can put themselves in
position where they can ask for the type of money
(11:32):
you're making. You're always competing, So there's no to me,
there's no such thing as in this type of scenario,
in this in this topic line that you can say
you were misled, because the bottom line is if you
don't understand coming into the National Football League that you
(11:52):
just got drafted or you just got hired to take
somebody else's job for lesser money. And that's every single
person that's brought in. If you don't understand that coming in,
then you're behind. You're behind. You can't mislead somebody. Oh,
I thought I was coming in just to be the starter.
You're just gonna only have me as a starter. No,
(12:13):
there's somebody there that if they can get the same
results from you like a Sam Darnold, and they don't
have to pay you what they pay a Patrick Mahomes
or Dak Prescott or Joe Burrow. If they don't have
to pay that, that's who they're going with until they can't.
That's why rookie contracts are so important. I don't have
(12:34):
to pay you for being amazing. I got three four
years that I can go maybe more, maybe longer if
I want, and I can get that talent at this price.
Bottom line. I feel bad for Kirkcatsis. You should let
me tell you why.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Why because this would have been the equivalent to the
seventy two Dolphins perfect season. When it came to the
business standpoint of the NFL, he could have walked away
and said, got them all beat. Everybody, got franchise tagged
twice in Washington, got all that money, and then became
the first guy to get a fully guaranteed contract. He
(13:11):
even dangled Minnesota and the Jets against each other and
then sold everybody on. I took three million dollars less
to go play in Minnesota because I liked it more.
And then he was about to get another extension. All
of a sudden, he gets an injury and he says,
you know what, Oh, you're going to draft a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
No worry, I'll continue this bank heist. I'll go to
another bank in Atlanta and I'll take from them. And
he was about ready to get out of there coming
off an injury with all those hundreds of millions of
guarantees that he's got, and all of a sudden, the
damn Falcons front office is waiting outside with a squad
car and they scoop him up. And there goes this
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perfect run in the NFL business world, gone man up
and vanished like a fart in the wind. Could have
been perfect, everything lined up just right, and the damn
Falcons ruined it all. Feel bad for Kirk Cousins. He
got the contract. Yeah, now he's stuck as a backup.
He's trying to get the hell out of there. Hold on,
hold on, It's all about perspective again. Let me reiterate.
(14:11):
He could have been stuck as the backup at Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, but he liked it there. It was perfect, Everything
was perfect.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Well, didn't take a pay cut and go back, take
a pay kite, go back they misled you, get back
some of that signing bonus and go back, he was
to me, to me, yeah, right, to me, he's.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Already he's already won.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
It's not he didn't blimish his perfect record of handling
business at at.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
A at a high level, not at all.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
He got his contract, he wasn't misled on his contract.
He wasn't misled on them numbers. Now, if he comes
out and he says some of this stuff is based
off of incentives and escalators and laying time, Okay, I
get that. If you were misled that way, he has
a legitimate right, he has a legitimate gright. But as
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far as I'm concerned, the reason why he's in the
Hall of Fame of doing business and doing contract is
because he gets his money. The money that he's going
to get, he's going to get whether he's a backup
or whether he's a starter. And if that's the case,
he's already winning. You're winning. Michael Pennix has all the
pressure on him. If he doesn't prove out they didn't
(15:31):
move you. You're to back up. Something jumps off, you
get back in, take your shot, and then whatever happens next,
you leverage it to maybe try to get.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Another deal out of it. That's how it works.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
No reason to have hard feelings, no need to feel
sorry for him, and no need to be a victim
in the matter. Hey, you know, Kirk, I support you, man,
you know your pursuit for perfection and all of a sudden,
the Falcon's ruined it all.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's too bad, man.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
It is The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
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Speaker 6 (16:32):
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Speaker 2 (16:42):
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That'll be yours here again twenty minutes from now here.
On FSR, we do have a team that's going full
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red ass mode this year and that team, Puffy Bottom,
would be the Kansas City Chiefs. The Kansas City Chiefs
who find themselves in unfamiliar territory getting exposed in the
Super Bowl. Philly put a clowns shoot on them early
and that game was over before halftime. And Patrick Mahomes
of the Kansas City Chiefs spoke with Kay Adams on
(18:08):
upping Adams, and he talked to you know, let's have
some fun again, all right, Let's get back to the
good old days.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
I think it's just us having fun again. I mean,
I mean, it's it's always been fun playing on the
Kansas City Chiefs, and that's what makes it special. And
I feel like last year, I don't want to say
it was pressure, but guys wanted to go out there
and win every single week, and not for the fun
in the game, just because we're supposed to. Let's go
out there and have fun. I mean, the wins will
come if we play the way that we're We know
we can play. We have the talent, we had, the coaches,
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we work harder than anybody in the NFL. So let's
go out there and have fun and let the results
handle it.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So so it's going to be different looking Chiefs this year.
Not so much pressure, not trying to go for three
in a row, none of that garbage. Get back to
the good old days. Just go out there and sling
it and put a smile on your face. I mean,
it's great to maskt that way. The loss certainly hit
the reset on the record setting amount of when in
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the Super Bowl. It cleared out the dynasty talk. Maybe
for a summer, a summer maybe well there's still a dynasty,
aren't they?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Are they?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I would think, so, yeah, maybe one more. Really they
got two, right, I think they've got three three super Bowls. Yeah,
it's a dynasty. It's a dynasty. But but okay, well
then let's say greatest dynasty.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
If you set a record on three straight, that's pretty
that's pretty fly. That's pretty fly.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Biz. I think it's good because they are finding ways.
You'll always see and hear stories from the greatest to
ever do it. Whether they're teams, whether it's players, whether
it's a coach, they always find a way to motivate themselves,
to inspire themselves. And a lot of times is made
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up because they're still the most elite football team in
the National Football League. There you go, hey, kill them all.
They are still the gold standard of what a team
is supposed to be, how they're supposed to be ran, coached, players, quarterback,
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you name it. They had more talent this year and
they probably do feel less pressure because winning one Super
Bowl feels very different than trying to win the third
in a row Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And look at how they delivered on that.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Under those circumstances, they were still able to deliver an
appearance in the Super Bowl, So imagine a better team,
perceivably a better football team, more talent than what they
had last year, more at least more weapons. For Patrick Mahomes,
it's probably going to be a more explosive defense, a
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more explosive offense. The defense did most of the carrying
last year. If the offense resurfaces and is more and
is more aggressive and putting up points like they did before,
then now you're talking about that restoring of the balance
(21:25):
that you saw when the Cheetah was on the team,
and it was the Cheetah and Kelsey. There's the possibility
that they could have an offense as dynamic and with
plenty of explosive plays with this team that they have
coming in this season. So of course Patrick Mahomes is
going to be excited. They're going to have a burr,
you know, and and they're going to get after it
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because they came up short and they probably felt like
that's one that they let get away that would have
been in the record books forever. So I mean, give
credit where credit is due. At least they're not in
a place of complacency. That's what you should be concerned about.
If we're listening to a quote from Patrick Mahomes and
it's like, uh, you know, we've won a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
You know, we just get to work. It's the off
season and.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
You know, we'll get to the season and we'll see,
we'll see how it goes. I mean, we've won a
lot here, We've had a lot of great success. So
with the runs that we've had, this run that we've
had during this time, mom, you know, I mean, everything's
got to be everything's got to be a positive, a
bonus from from here on out because we've delivered so
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much to you.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You know, it's wild.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
The Chiefs are so unrelatable to just about every single
fan base and organization in the league. All that they've
known since Patrick Mahomes became the full time starter is
AFC Championships or Super Bowls, and the two AFC title
games they lost, they lost in overtime. Other than that,
they're going to the Super Bowl every year and they're
(22:58):
at least in the conversation to win an their title.
There are fan bases starving out there. They just want one.
Can we make one of.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
The super Bowl bases that are just starving to make
it to the playoffs. I went to the playoffs two
times in my career, and one I was playing one.
I was into it and you, I mean you basically
assaulted Chris Simms.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And the other one. Didn't you. I was playing in
that one. Didn't you burst his spleen?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I think maybe I think we might have got I
don't know. I don't. I don't think that was me.
I think LeVar almost killed Chris Sims. I might I
might have.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
It's been a while. I remember the interception and I
got knocked out, but oh I was out. I fumbled too,
By the way, it was a fumble. They didn't rule
it all fumble, but that was a fumble. That was
a fumble.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Who hits you? I was a lineman. I don't. I
don't remember. I still don't remember to this day.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
But I might have hit him pretty hard. And I
don't remember me hitting heart in that game. I remember
San Taylor spitting Pittman's face. I think he got kicked
out of that game too.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You're spitting Michael Pittman's face like that.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
They talk about a yeah, Taylor though, talk about Guy
Villa versus King Kong. I mean, that would have been
a nice little matchup. Plus we would have not let
anything happen to Seawan and then a Mike would have
had to deal with me. Then we would all been
kicked out because I would have been whooping ass. Everybody
would have been whooping ass. So but I was knocked out?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
That gay? What you got?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
What are we looking at here?
Speaker 9 (24:34):
According to the Google machine, LeVar Arrington did intercept Chris
Sims in a pivot playoff game. But there's no evidence
of you physically hitting Chris.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
So what if you just, like, if you put it
into AI, did LeVar Arrington kill Chris Simms?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Like, what would show up there?
Speaker 9 (24:49):
That's what you put in physically, no evidence of physically
harming Chris Sims.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Will listen.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I feel like that's reckless AI reporting there. But nonetheless,
like it wasn't Chris Simms, it was it was Brad Johnson.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Well, but Chris Simms did have the burst spleen or
something like that in that game. I'm almost positive there
was a playoff game Chris Simms went out because and
Gruden was the coach, right, Gruden was the coach for
Tampa at that time. Yeah, LaVar had to forced fumble
in that game. Look at that, Yeah, you really did
kill him. I forced a fumble eight tackles at forced
(25:30):
fumble in an interception.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Hell yeah, I might. I might have hurting. I might
have hurting, Like I'm pretty sure, Chris Simms, that's the
hell of a game. By the way, separate internal bleeding.
I'm telling you, I was a beast when I when
I played. I mean eight.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Tackles a sack of I n t that. That's the
hell of a game. I mean, that's probably better than
any other linebacker or defensive player that I had a game.
That's that's an MVP performance. He really didn't remember.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Didn't know. Damn I did, all right.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I used to be something then butting radio with you
tell you man, Then it all went down.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Hill ever since.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Now told you man, you are at the top of
the top and now you're doing radio midday with Count Chocolate.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
How most cursed. We almost had to dump out and
it was it was a f bomb. You went.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
You were teammates with Bruce Smith, Dion Sean Taylor. Do
you look over to your left and you got me
Geryl green Mark carrier.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Guy with two dumb tattoos. Marco Coleman a truck from
the nineties in the parking lot, and he's got a
he's got a thorn bush, a thorn bush.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Around his arm and his dog on his back. You
know my had the mighty fall. Yeah, it's all good
man part too.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
It is.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
That's why I rocked my great beard and I wear
my little image glasses. I like to be incognito because
you know, this is who I am now, this is where.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
We are, That's what we're doing. This is what we're
doing now.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
The subject though, of the playoff run for the Kansas
City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes talking about just getting back
to having fun again. I just I hope that he
and he probably won't until his career is over, but
I hope that he and Chiefs fans and that entire
organization understand how good they have it. I hope that
they really do understand it, because sometimes you can get
(27:23):
caught up in the weeds on you know, just sort.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Of oh well, listen, it's the grind day to day.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Patrick Mahomes also talked to Tom Brady's been talking to
Tom Brady a lot this from Upp and Adams, and
he spoke about the advice he's gotten from TV twelve.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
He always talks about being yourself. He thinks that which
I truly believe too, is that guys can spot when
you're not authentic and you're not putting in the work.
And that's something that he did every single day. That's
why guys respect him so much. And that's all I'm
going to do with the rest of my career. And
I feel like I've done so far as I'm always
myself no matter if you like me or if you
don't like me, you know that I'm giving everything I
can to win the football game.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
So Brady giving him all the advice. Brady was a
guy who struck me as was constantly worried about the
grind and never satisfied with what he had. And even
Brady probably looks at the start of Patrick Mahomes's career
and goes, damn man, there's been no literally no decline
with the Chiefs since Patrick Mahomes is twn you the
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toughest division.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yes, it's not like he's doing it in a week
as division, He's got to go to work every single year.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It's not been easy.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
So the road that he's had the ho he's been
doing it on some real treacherous train and he's still.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Been able to navigate it. That's the biggest question here.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
As long as Patrick Mahomes stays healthy, you got to
assume the process is in play. The understanding of what
the defense needs to deliver and what the offense needs
to do in order for them to win is all solidified.
If Patrick Mahomes were to go down, is that the
(29:06):
death of their successful run? That has to be His
health has to be maybe the biggest question in terms
of moving forward. As long as he can stay healthy,
which he has been known to get nicked up, you
know that ankle, like his ankles giving giving trouble at times.
(29:28):
If he were to go down, do they have a
contingency plan where they can still be the effective team
that they are when they have I mean, obviously they're
not going to be as good as they would be
with him in there. Do they have a contingency plan
where they can still win games if they were to
(29:49):
lose Patrick Mahomes for an extended amount of times. Yes,
And you know who that is, Gardner Minshew, what are
you worried about? I'll say this and that and that
offensive scheme he probably would thrive.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Hey, listen, Minshi's actually played a lot better than people realize. Like,
if you just go look at his numbers. That guy's
going to be in the NFL for a long time.
You know, the Raiders were a bit of a rough spot.
By the way, we're gonna have to edit some of
the podcast. Apparently Chris Sims was hurt against the Carolina Panthers,
or if you could use there, you go, Yeah, that's
what I'm showing, that he burst him.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I might have hurt him though, I might have hurting,
but I don't think I did. I do know that
something happened to Brad Johnson's ribs in pre season when
I hit him. Now, if you want to look that
one up, Lee looked that I got fined like ten
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
For a legal hit. I legally hit him.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
The man still had the ball in his hand and
I hit him, and I knocked the spirit, soul, mind,
everything loose and some of it out of his body.
If I gotta find ten thousand dollars, I'd sell my son.
I gotta get that money backs.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
By the way, that fumble you forced was returned for
a touchdown in that seventeen ten victory.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
From Sean Taylor. I didn't realize that. Dam You really
have to falling a long way. Look at me, Just
look to your left. This is life, the memories. That's
all you really can look for is just to live
in the memories. I guess fifteen thousand for striking an
opponent in the head. I'm not sure if that's the
(31:29):
right one that we're looking at. I got that, yep,
thousand for taunting. Yeah, what was his career five? All right,
that's twenty thousand.
Speaker 9 (31:35):
That's my career fines thirty five total, thirty five grand. Yeah,
I'll try to look for the other ones. So far,
thirty five so far.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I was the highest fine dude in the league one
year until Harball or somebody somebody got hit in the
Chicago Bears game. Jim Miller, Jim Miller. Jim Miller kind
of annihilated. And that fin took was that Hugh Douglas
who was that? It was? Yeah, his fine pushed him
(32:06):
to the top. I was number one on the list,
and you Douglas took it on that hit in the
Chicago game. Yeah, he took it away from me. Well, look,
I was hitting people in the head though, I'll tell
you that. If there's one thing I was doing, I
was what they call targeting. That's why I was a
(32:26):
missile to your cranium. I was a missile.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
That's how I used to in my mind, Like I'd
be lining up in the game, right, I'd be in
the game.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Here we go, Sam sitting there looking like like all right,
here we godopop.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Seg hud out of there. Out of there. Only thirty
five grand. It's not bad.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Hey, man got how a thirty five and some of
those fines, I mean maybe those are like my physical
fines because I was getting fined, like dudes wear their
uniforms the way they want to wear their uniforms. Now
I was wearing. I was getting fined for having my sock.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
To like, Hey, George Pickens got fined over two hundred
grand last year by the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
So I didn't get fined by the team. I got
fined by the league. Well, the league was fine, league.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
The league was finding me for my uniform violations and
hitting people in the hit.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Dan Snyder never find you because being there was a
fine enough. So he should have been fine for being
the owner. Yeah, some would say he did.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
It.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Is uh still looking for him to pay some of
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Speaker 3 (34:17):
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Speaker 2 (34:47):
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Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah right, music, Yeah, come on the bar, Come on Zonus, Yeah,
come lie, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Then trouble.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Unfortunately, we do have to start a little negative. Dodgers
dropped their fourth game in a row following a.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Loss to the Brewers last night.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
They've now been outscored thirty eight to seven in the
that four game losing streak.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
That's what's going on the bar. That's well.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
The good news is their depleted pitching rotation is getting
some much needed relief with the return of their all
star pitcher Tyler Glasnow, who's expected to make a start
tomorrow against the Brewers in the final game of the series.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I mean, it's a last he could do. Signed a
big time contract and just kind of kind of hanging out.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
He didn't last season, had twenty two starts, but then
was injured for their playoff run. They obviously went on
to win the World Series without him, and then, as
you pointed out, uh, he has not pitched after making
five starts this season.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So yes, a.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Hopefully a rebound year. For him as the Dodgers pitching
staff could really use some healthy arms. They they were
talked about as having ten deep, like you could literally
have two rotations with the Dodgers based on how much
they start, how many starters they had before the year.
And now they're looking around going, we got to make
a move with the deadline, like we have to do
(36:17):
something because nobody can stay healthy. Blake snell Glass, Now
all these guys are getting banged up and say, all right,
I mean, but if there's an organization that was going
to go get aggressive and try and make a move
that it was going to.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Be down totally.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
And to your point, like coming into this year, it was, well,
they're so deep, they can just bring back o Tani
whenever they feel like it, no big deal.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Maybe he pitches this year, Maybe he does it.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Now it's to the point where it's like, I mean, look,
do we think Gotani can get some full starts in
by the All Star Breaking?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Why not? I mean, that's how desperate they're looking.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
But by the way, people are under selling what he's
trying to do, He's basically trying to do his rehab
assignments at the major league level because he can't afford
to lose his bat.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
So he's not like normally he would be in the
minors and he'd be whatever. So instead he's starting against
actual big league hitters in real games because they need
as they need his bat and.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Play a part and why they're losing. He's throwing a
hundred miles an hour. It's guys, very fast, yeah, so
very fast fast ball.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
And what's also remarkable about the Dodgers and the season
that they are having is that despite being on a
four game losing streak, still six games.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Up in the division.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Oh yeah, no, need, no need to panic there. But
obviously it's sort of a all sight set on the
World Series, and in order to do that, they're going
to need some health in their starting rotation. All right,
let's stir our attention to the NFL. A lot of
questions about the Cowboys entering this season. Got a first
year head coach, Dak Prescott coming back from another injury.
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How does George Pickens fit into the offense. Well, let's
add left tackle to that list as well. Dallas is
looking for their twenty twenty four first round pick, Tyler
Geiton to make big strides in year two. And here's
what a time pro bowler Tyron Smith had to say
about his development, telling the Dallas Morning News, he just
needs a little technique work, which he's doing right now.
(38:15):
I feel like it's going to be a different type
of year for him. Slow the game down, get the
rookie nerves out. Cowboys. Uh, they're gonna need some huge
improvements out of Geyiton, who graded fifty seventh out of
fifty eight qualified tackles according to pff lush.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
That's not a very good rate ranking. Damn, that's not
very fifty seven out of fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, it could have been fifty nine. You're gonna find that.
You gonna find the positive in this. He wasn't last.
He wasn't last. Ye, you gotta find the positives here I.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Mean and everybody else. I mean, if you're not first,
you're last. That's a good point, I though. Yeah, I
wants to be the first loser. All the second play
is the first loser. Yeah, I think so, that's what
they say, right, Yeah, all the plays is the first one.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I have heard the Dak prescottson like the best shape
of his life, going coming into a training camp up
in Knox Nard who as they call it.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
So I don't know if I don't know if that's
what's so funny here. I don't know if uh strawberries
and Knox nor I don't know if there's any validity
to that, but there is some some optimism. I'm to
look the Cowboys, that's your team.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
They they butchered, They butchered the Mike McCarthy negotiations and
then ended up settling on somebody on staff who didn't
even call plays last year. And this is like not
a knock on Brian Schottenheimer. And then his whole thing
is we're gonna look, we're gonna shake it up, and
we're gonna move everybody's lockers. It just feels like they're
(39:45):
scrambling to come up with a plan. Meanwhile Michael Parsons
is looking to get paid. That just there's a lot
going on there.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Man.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
They should be dangerous with Dak Prescott as a quarterback,
fine quarterback, Pickens and Lamb receivers one and two. That's nasty.
The potential of that is pretty it's pretty high. So
it's like ferguson, what are you going to do if
it doesn't work out this year? On the offensive side
(40:15):
of the ball.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
What are you going to blame it on?
Speaker 4 (40:18):
So maybe that's why it's news that you got to
have your offensive line in the right right place. But yeah,
that feels like the biggest point for but the possibly
multiple Hall of famers on their line of scrimmage for
the last ten years and they did absolutely nothing with that.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
So that's a great point. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
They got to throw that ball, slating that peel, so whatever,
I mean, that's the proper summing of it.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
But summing up so whatever, whatever, just wait and see,
let's wait, see.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
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