Go Low - Reaction to Scottie Scheffler DOMINATING British Open - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on? It is Sunday at
about one o'clock and I've already recorded a podcast. Me

(00:22):
and Coward went immediately after Scotty won and record a
little reaction as well as some other stuff. Talked about
the w NBA players getting ready to boycott for more money,
barstool coming on the airwaves of Fox, leading into Coward,
your boy actually might be going back, I think at

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the end of August, middle towards the end of August,
so we keep you updated there. But did want to
do a Golo podcast today because obviously the last major
of the year just happened. Scottie Scheffler wins a second
major this year. He's one major away now the US Open,
from the career Grand Slam. So we will talk a
little bit about a guy becoming a legend in front

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of our eyes as well as listen, I've compared him
and Rory, and early on I thought Rory was playing
with the best player in the world. It turned out
that that Lasagna or was the meatball whatever Scotty was
trying to cook and cut his hand. The impact that
had early on the season, clearly Scotty is still the

(01:28):
best player in the world obviously, but we'll kind of
dive into Rory Bryce and maybe just some other highlights
as well as low lights from this week because we
have a couple guys on the American Ryder Cup team
they're gonna be on the team that are just kind
of embarrassing right now relative to the way they're discussed,
the way they conduct themselves. So we got some issues.

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We still got the playoffs, we got Live Golf. I
think me and Coward might do a broadcast from Live
Golf Chicago in like three weeks. So I'm efforting to
try to get Mickelson. I want him to come. I
don't know exactly how the setup is gonna be, but
we need to get Phil talking football with me and Coward.

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So that's that is something that I'm aspiring and like
my ambitions going into this if we do some sit
down like I don't want dj, I don't want Koepka.
I would take Bryson, but I think Phil would be
me and Coward would have fun bs and with him.
So keep you updated on that endeavor. But before we

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dive into any football or football the Open Championship, the
fourth major of the year, Scheffler's triumph. We know, I
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witnessed a guy becoming a legend. And I think, what's cool?
And this is why I love sports. I've said it forever.
I'm a small school guy. I went to cal Paly.
Our football program one is D one, double A and
it's not very good. Then. Obviously I got involved in
football at a much higher level at Fresno State, but
it was still on the West Coast, always overshadowed by

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the USC's, the Oregons, the Washington's hell even played second
fiddles to programs like cal in UCLA. So I understand
the plight of small school people, small business owners. My
dad was involved in one. I did not grow up
with a bunch of people that went to USC that

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ran fortune five hundred companies. You know, these weren't my
people in life. I grew up in a small town.
But as a sports consumer, I always loved the big fish.
I was a diehard Michael Jordan guy in the mid nineties,
like I would imagine many kids around the country. My
favorite athlete of all time, even more than Michael, would

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be Tiger Woods. I always love watching sports for greatness,
for Tom Brady, for Peyton Manning, you know, for the
best in the biggest moments. And that's what Tiger really
excelled at. He was this absolute rocket ship from when
I was a kid, and then he just started winning

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the biggest tournaments over and over and over again. Now
he transcended the sport. He became a cultural icon, especially
a marketing power behind him that we've probably never seen
and might never see again. Him and Michael, I would say,
are pretty unparalleled when it comes to their ability to

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push a product. I mean, the Jordan brand is still
as strong as ever financially, and Michael hasn't played in
over two decades. Obviously, Tiger doesn't quite have the power
that he once had in his heyday. But I've said forever,
when you see Scottie Scheffler and Rory McElroy and even
other guys wearing that Nike swoosh on the golf course,

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it feels a lot different because the guy that normalized that.
And listen, I don't have an outfit and haven't really
my entire professional career because I worked in a business
where guys wore basketball shorts and T shirts to work
on the practice field to the radio and podcast world
where we can wear anything. But most of you, and
like my little brother and most people in my life

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that are in more formal settings that either have, you know,
consistent meetings or going to an office consistently, Tiger Woods
changed business casual. No one will ever be that, and
what Tiger Woods did in the late nineties and specifically
in two thousand might not ever happen again either when
you factor in on and off the course. But there

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were a lot of stats that have come out since
Scotty won this tournament a couple hours ago that there
are some parallels. And here's the thing with Tiger, he
kind of has two careers, right the Tiger that won
the Masters in nineteen ninety seven, and by the end
of two thousand and one they had something that they
called a Tiger Slam because he won three straight majors

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and then going into the next year wins the Masters,
so he had won four straight majors and by then
he's just racking them up and it looks like, is
this guy gonna win one hundred majors? Now obviously it's
slowed down a little bit, but like that version taking
on the sport was unlike anything we'd ever seen, and
that is not Scotty. And there is an element, you know,
with sk that I think people are looking for. Okay,

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some of these comps, because I thought a year ago,
everyone's like, let's pump the brakes. He's only got two
majors and they're both the Masters. Can he win these
other tournaments? And this year is like, oh yeah, I can.
You want me to win the PGA, And how about
I win the Open as well, a tournament that most
of you thought that I couldn't play at. We all
know that it's inevitable. I'm gonna win a US Open, Like,
I don't know how many majors he's gonna win. Scotty

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Cheffer are gonna win seven? Is he gonna win ten?
Is he gonna win six? I you know, I don't
feel comfortable. My guests would be he'd be more likely
to win eight or nine than he would five. But listen,
we see this all the time in all sports. Injuries happen,
variables happen. Other guys figure it out. It's it's not easy,
even though he's making it look easy. But Tiger Woods

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had multiple careers like the version in the late nineties
two thousand. He became kind of a different guy in
about two range And a lot of people on Twitter
have thrown this out, like Tiger Woods between two and five,
where he would be considered just in that period of time,
an all time great player. If that was his career,
like a Terrell Davis situation, he would be a Hall

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of Famer. He would be a living legend. And when
you compare it to Scotty from twenty twenty two to
twenty twenty five, so like a three year span eighty
one events, Tiger played seventy nine, it's very similar. Scotty
has twenty wins for majors, two players. Tiger had eighteen
wins four majors, no players, and you know, financially, it's

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hard to comp because obviously guys are making way more now.
But like we are getting a version of Tiger, it's
not the most transcendent version of Tiger, which was ninety
nine two thousand and going into two thousand and one,
where he was just he was a force. I mean,
it was like combining a great player, a cultural icon,
a business tycoon and listen. I talked about this with Colin.

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I think the one obviously Scotty had the I don't
even want to call it a rant. He just gave
an answer to a question and it went pretty viral,
and he went on for a long time, and you
could argue he contradicted himself a little bit, but I
think his overall message and my biggest takeaway was I
like to practice, and I like the grind of golf

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when no one is bothering me more than like the
spotlight and the adulation of holding the trophy and kind
of being the celebrity. You know who didn't like that
as well? In a weird way is Tiger, because when
Tiger gave his Hall of Fame speech, I remember a
couple of years ago watching it on Golf Channel. The
thing that kind of went viral of the speech was

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how much he enjoys and he called it being in
the dirt, being in the mud, grinding his way through it.
When I think of Tiger Woods, I obviously think of
a great champion, but I also think of like one
of the hardest workers the game has ever seen, a
guy that loved to practice, and before his body started

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betraying him some of that, you know, self inflicted in
his twenties, before he got married and his life changed,
was a guy whose practice habits and schedule and workout
prowess from sun up till sundown is pretty legendary. I'm
sure many of you have seen the clip where they
spliced Tiger talking about what he did compared to John

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Day on a practice day. I always thought being around
like when I got into football and Pat Hill and
Andy Reid football coaches like going to practice, like the
grind of getting a practice script, preparing for practice, telling
the players what they're gonna do at practice, going out

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on the practice field, and then correcting what happened on
the practice field later that day in a meeting as
much as they do on Sunday. Obviously, the thrills of
the high of game day, just like the thrills in
the high of Scotti Scheffler on a Saturday or Sunday
in a tournament, are second to none. You don't get
these feels, but in terms of the love of what

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they do, it really shows through when the cameras are
not on. And Tiger always had this. He was great
in both settings. Right could grind when no one was
paying attention for hours upon hours upon hours to do
everything humanly possible to get better. And then when the
lights were on, he could shine brighter than anyone else.

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Now he had a flare for the dramatic. He looked
like no one else. His name was Tiger. Scotty's not
really into that. Scotty actually looks like he's forty years old,
receding hairline. He's kind of got that Roethlisberger feel. It's like, wait,
this guy's only twenty nine. I thought he was forty
years old. But he hates all that other stuff. He
does not like the limelight, the fame. He does not

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want to be a celebrity. That's not what he's in
this to do. Bryson d. Chambeau enjoys the celebrity element
that has been created around him, which he has helped create.
Scotty Scheffler does not. And I think I think part
of what makes Scotty such like a head scratching great
player is he's actually kind of boring to watch. And

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a lot of people have said this historically. If you
go back and watch a lot of Tiger tournaments, especially
in his heyday, it wasn't as electric as you believed, right,
he was actually pretty boring. Especially once he got a lead.
He would just strangle you. He was not gonna screw up.
His floor was so much Obviously their ceilings are the highest,
but also their floors were sneaky, extremely high, because you

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never thought like, yeah, he's gonna double fourteen with a
two shot lead. Wasn't gonna happen. He'll like, can't hand
me a five iron old, just hit the fairway. I'll
make sure I get a par in this whole worst
case of bogie. And there's an element of Scotty now.
The difference is and I would say that Tiger Phil
Speith and Rory the foremost famous guys of the Internet era.

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By far, we're pretty entertaining. And Tiger had this much
more Thursday, Friday, Saturday, where at any moment he could
blast it anywhere off the tea. Wasn't that accurate? Same
thing with Phil now, the technology is so much different.
Like you watched Tiger before he heard his his leg
in like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, he was way more.

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He was way less erratic off the t Why because
the technology, if you gave peak Tiger Woods the technology
of the day, he wouldn't have been is chaotic off
the tee. Right, you watch Scotty over the last couple
of days, it's not that entertaining because part of Phil
or Jordan, what made you captivated by watching them is

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you thought, at any moment they could lose the lead.
I mean, Rory, what we witnessed as the Masters, We're
never gonna see anything like that again. Sunday at the Masters.
Rory McElroy is the craziest fucking golf tournament. Like we
have seen other guy's meltdown or come back right at
the last second, but never a guy quite like him.
Phil had the meltdowns and then he lost. Tiger never

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had the meltdowns. Spieth has had the meltdowns and the comebacks.
He's had it all. Rory, we never seen anything like that,
and Scotty doesn't give us anything close to that. So
we're always like shaking our heads. What are we getting here?
And what we're getting here right now is a guy
in the peak of his powers who's clearly on a
tier above everyone else. I can be I don't want
to say hyperbolic, but very emotional sometimes after an event,

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like reacting to something. And I did believe when Rory
won the Masters, when you factored in that he won
Pebble and he won the Players, I'm like, no one
is playing better than this guy. And it turns out
the reason Scotty was not playing that well the injury
obviously really rattled him. Right. And if you had told
me that Rory was playing like that and Scotty was

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just playing like he had played last year, I'd be like,
they're the same. But Scotty was not playing that way.
Once he figured out his hand, He's fucking dominated. I mean,
he's lapped the field. So I am comfortable, which I'm
not prisoner of the moment here. I do think like Bryson.
He shot seventy eight and then he shot sixteen under
the next three days. Now, when you're down twenty eight

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to nothing at halftime and then the final score is
forty to thirty, if I just told you the final
score was forty to thirty, but got it, bet that
was a pretty entertaining game. But if I told you
the halftime score was twenty eight to nothing. One, the
team with a huge lead usually just lets down their guard.
And two, the team that is behind by a shitload

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of points can be like, well, we got nothing to lose,
So there is an element to that, Like two things
can be true. Bryson is an elite player, and he
clearly is one of the top three guys. It goes
Scotty and then the next tier to me is a
clear two guys. It's Rory and Bryson. But Bryson's week
and Rory's week, which I'm pretty sure did, they finish

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the same. So they finished one shot difference. Rory finished
ten under, Bryson finished nine hunder. It was a little different.
I mean, I wasn't totally in the mix like the
last twenty seven holes, because Scotty had such a big lead,
but he was just like in the tournament, when you
shood seventy eight, you kind of loosen up and you
start firing a pins. Now today, like obviously the weather's
not going Bryson was playing really, really well. But like,

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the one thing that's clear and this is what I'm
gonna have consistent message going into next year. And when
the majors come, it's like we got a big three
and Scotty's clearly on a tier by himself, and then
it's Rory and Scotty. Now, Xander has his moments. He
proved a lot last year. The injury obviously slowed down
a season, but I'm not putting him on the Bryson
and Rory tier. The Rom thing is a little bit

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head scratching. I had high hopes for Rom coming into
this tournament. Obviously he had been in the mix at
the PGA earlier this year. I saw someone commented it
was like middle cooff, Rob never had a chance to win.
Scotty finished minus eleven and Rom was minus four at
the PG eight. It's like, well, yeah, they were both
minus nine when they were headed to the back nine

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on Sunday, and then Rom obviously with the down the
last four or five holes, and you know Scotty hit
the accelerator, but like that was a fact, right, there
was a period of time where you thought, with nine
holes to go that John Rohm could win it. And
a guy that's won multiple majors clearly one of the
best players in the world. Like I want to put
him in that tier, and then you watch weekends like this,
it's it's hard to Now I would put rom right

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under that next tier, like if we were doing like
quarterback rankings, But I do think that there is a
gap now sizable, Like I think Rory and Bryson are
better than everyone else, but like if they're all on.
And here's the scary thing was with with Scotty, which
is someone like Tiger, somewhat like Tiger. If Tiger had

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his A game, he was beating everyone. It didn't matter
if you had your A plus game, you had no
chance to beat him. If Scotty has his A game,
he's beating every single person. But what's scary about Scotty
And this is what Tiger had and Rory has this
in events when Scotty's either way off or maybe not
even there. If I played my B game depending that week,

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especially in a major, most people are not gonna be
quote unquote their A game. Most people are gonna be
at best like a B plus. I'm beating you. So
my B game, my B minus game is so much
better than like ninety five percent of the field. It's
gonna take a handful of guys Rory Bryson, Xander Ram

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to have their A minus A game to beat me.
And based on the way golf works, that doesn't usually happen,
especially at the majors. Look at Bryson. He had his
A game, A plus game Friday and Sunday, he had
like his F game on Thursday, and he lost the tournament. Now,
if it's easy to go, well, if Bryson had shot

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even par on Thursday, Well, if he had, does he
shoot sixteen hundred the next three days? Does he play
as loose as he did? Maybe, but probably not. I
would bet it gin now if you told me Bryson
shot even par the way the weather broke out, he
could have been right there. Because Rory had moments where
you're like, God, he's a pot or two away from

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being a couple shots back. And then, unlike Scotty, Rory's
superpower and what he does best, It's like, what does
Lamar Jackson do best? Well, he's a dynamic athlete, like
at any moment, he could run, but he's also just
a threat to pass, like you don't know what's coming.
But his athleticism is unlike anything we've ever seen, and
it's made him a legendary Hall of Fame talent. Right,

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Rory's Hall of Fame town is true. Ability is his
driver when it's on is unstoppable. And every time you
look up, especially Saturday and Sunday, it's like Rory likes
to play that power draw and he'd aim on the
right side. What the open there's not just like well,
if you miss, you're in the rough. You could miss
and you have a nice lie, or you could be

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in a bush. You could be in an unplayable lie.
You could be in a place where a guy like
Justin Rose shanks back to back shots. And I don't
know how many times, definitely today, but I feel like
over the course of the last couple of days, Rory
would try to play that draw and it just wouldn't
quite draw, and then he would be like in a bush,
and sometimes he did a miraculous shot out of it

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and he's still birdy, but a lot of times like
he just ended up with the par And then Scotty
would come up, where most people in the golfing world
like who's the best driver of all time? A lot
of people just say Ry McElroy, say Roy McElroy's advantage
over Scotty's driving the ball. Scotty would come up and
his driver, I would say, wasn't like his potent weapon
this week as putting was dominant, it felt like he
was just striping fairways. So it's like, Rory, your ability

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to separate from Scotty because his short game is going
to be better than you and his iron play is
gonna be better than you. Is you fucking hitting that
three hundred and fifty yard drive like Bryson down the pipe?
And I thought this week, it's like God, it's just
kind of it was a very hit or miss, And
it feels like that's been a little bit of the
case since they yanked the driver from him at the

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PGA Championship when he would refuse to talk to people.
But pretty crazy week, I mean, really for those three guys.
Props to Bryson for, you know, battling back. You know,
I think Rory, it's easy to kind of keep your
head high after twenty nineteen and Scotty celebrated for five minutes.
I do think it's kind of relatable. I don't know

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about you, Like I hate birthdays. I hate birthdays. I'm
not a huge celebration guy. We all have people in
our life that when a birthday comes, when a promotion comes,
when anything that you can like tangibly correlate to quote
unquote a successful moment personally, professionally, let's celebrate. And there

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are those type people that love to celebrate, and there
are those type people who hate to celebrate. And clearly
Scotty is like not that into it, and obviously faith
plays a big part of his life. But I think
he realized this, you know, Rory, Like Rory wins a tournament,
it's cool, but it doesn't mean that. Part of the
reason the Masters meant so much to him was because

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he's been trying to win the thing for a decade
and what it meant to his career, right, it was
a huge, huge crowning achievement for his career. Scotty. I
would imagine the first couple times he won on the
PGA Tour in twenty twenty two was a big deal.
It's like, God, I finally won the PGA Tour. Then
he won the Masters, it was a huge deal. And
then like a year later he's like, I've won my
four or five times since It's like, yeah, I win,

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and then next week or in two weeks, I just
play another event. And if I'm not playing the next
week and I got an event in three weeks, I
know it might take a couple of days off and
then I'm just back at the course pittin Drivers, working
on my short game, playing with the boys, working with
my coach. It's like the same thing. And when I
heard his words, it was like, I'm just kind of

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routine oriented. I like my routine more than I do
the validation of holding the trophy, even though my routine
is all about getting to that trophy. It's what define
Nick Saban's career, the process way more than resists. It
was by the end of his career he could smile

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a little bit on the podium after winning a national championship,
but you always watched Nick Saban and went I felt
like he liked February to December more than he liked
the final result of the playoff game and winning it
or losing it, right, And I was always told this.
Nick Saban was way better in the locker room after

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a loss than after a win. He was in a
good mood after a loss because he knew he had
to be. After win, he was kind of miserable, and
football coaches often are like that. I always think it's
so funny on Sunday Night football or Monday Night football.
Whoever the Green Bay Packers are playing in the Minnesota Vikings,
it's gonna happen on Week one, right, Chargers, Chiefs? Who

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are the Eagles playing Eagles Cowboys? Whatever the games are.
I gotta get dialed into football here. But whoever wins
those Week one games, interw Jalen Hurts. They win last
second field goal and Jake Elliott or Jalen Hurts is
coming whoever the sideline reporter is, He's like, it was
a great win, very excited, but you know, we celebrate

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this for twelve twenty four hours and then get right
to the New York Giants. You know, if the Chargers
beat the Chiefs Week one in Brazil, they'll be like,
awesome win, it was a great offseason, but now we
gotta we gotta say focused for the Denver Broncos. That
is how they all talk coaches and players, right, And
I think the best players in golf have always kind

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of been like that. And I think Scotty, I would say,
defines that as much as anybody. And I think, listen,
he's finished seven of his last ten or seven of
his last eight majors, he's finished in the top ten.
Obviously he's won three of those. It's his ceiling, he's

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the highest ceiling. But his floor now is stupid high.
I mean it's you know, Tiger won a bunch of majors,
but he also was right in the mix of a
lot of them too. You know, Phil is not going
to come close to the fifteen Tiger hasse he only
has the six. But I would say one crowning achievement

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for Phil are all like the top twos, threes and
top fives in majors. Like Phil's floor for two decades
in his prime from twenty five to forty five, like
was fucking high. What Rory has become. I would say,
it's like, what grade would you give Rory this week?
I'd be like, I don't know, C plus and he

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finished easily T seven. I bet Rory's like, listen, even
if I wasn't going to win it, because I didn't
wasn't close to my A game. If I just had
my B plus game, I'm probably sitting second all by myself.
So and that's Bryce's the same thing. Their floors now
are so high. Now, I still believe that if the

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wind and the variables, Scotty can handle that, you know,
being an international guy growing up in this even if
there is an element, like there are a lot of
people that I live around that grew up in Chicago
or Minnesota that have lived in Arizona for a couple
of decades that you couldn't just put back in the
cold and they'd be used to it again. So there

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is separation. Roy has lived in Florida for a while.
But like Roy's proven he's better in the elements than
Bryson that if the elements had played a part in
this tournament, I don't know if Bryson comes storming back,
even he talked about that on Thursday when he had
some elements and he kind of fell apart. He just
his science experiment doesn't quite work. But if the Weather's
gonna be pretty solid. He is. He's a fucking potent factor.

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You know, the Ryder Cup is a huge conversation. I
think Europe is dramatically better than us. I mean, if
we could just clone Scotty in Bryce and even Xander,
but we can't. Like Chris got her up, Like I'd
probably just put him on the team, Like why not.
There's a good old boys club. You're just on scholarship forever.
Right It's like Colin Morikawa is gonna be on the team.

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He is not good right now, and he fires a
caddy like every other week. I was texting a buddy
this week. You know, in basketball, I understand, like you're
not gonna fire the players, you fire the coach. In football,
sometimes it's like, yeah, Bobby Slowick's is not a very
good offensive coordinator. He's calling the plays. You know, whether
it's not all his fault, whether it's the personnel guy's fault.
When you're calling the plays and they don't work, like

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we can tangibly connect you to the result, A caddie's
not telling you where to put your wrists, where to
put your hips, what swing tips with putting or chipping,
or where to aim really in terms of like your
body alignment. That's what a golf coach does. Obviously, they

(28:58):
know your yardages and can the longer there with you
can give you help. But Colin Markowa constantly blaming caddies
for his failures is pretty embarrassing, and it wasn't until
this new generation of player. For the most part, obviously,
caddies have been fired before. Think about Tiger Woods from
the moment he hired Stevie till he had to fire

(29:19):
him because of his transgressions off the field. He went
through some ups and downs, like he had some rough
patches in the middle of the two thousands, but he
didn't fire Stevie Williams. Phil Mickelson had incredibly low lows
and did not fire bones and did not win a
major till his mid thirties. There is not a chance

(29:43):
in God's green earth that the equivalent of Phil in
his late twenties early thirties, before he had won a major,
being a great player known as the second best or
third best player in the PGA Tour would not fire
bones in twenty twenty five. These guys constantly running through
caddies like they are the problem is kind of a joke,
and I get it. You gotta blame someone. And this

(30:05):
is a couple of people pointed out to me, a
couple buddies of mine that this generation, like if you're
an older caddy and I'm with the player like Marco
or whatever, you know, at first, like any working relationship,
I'm pretty careful of what I'm gonna say, what I'm
not gonna say. After a while, we're human beings. I
become comfortable with you, right, I can just say, like

(30:27):
Colin or whoever, I'm just using him as example, knock
it off, bro, Like, no, that's a dumb idea. Look
at Jordan's speed. A lot of credit for Jordan Speed,
who has some high highs, had a lot of lo
los has not kicked his caddy to the curb. You
know why because the reason that Jordan speech just pumped
it out of bounds on seven in a tournament has

(30:49):
nothing to do with Michael Greller. Now I watch Colin Morrikowe,
who missed the last two cuts, who just playing like
absolute shit. It feels like he's throwing a pity party
for himself. It's like, bro, stop blaming the case, start
blaming yourself, Start taking some accountability. You know, I think
that's one good thing any athlete will do. And in

(31:10):
football you don't have a choice because you have to
take accountability because your coaches are always fortunate to do.
In golf, it's like you can blame every It is
my swing coach, it's the guy fucking helping me out putting,
it's my manager, it's my cat. No, it's you. You're
hitting the shots right now. I have the chipping yips.
I shot eighty yesterday. I had three double bogies in

(31:30):
five holes because I sculled multiple chips. If I was
just a normal chipper, just get around the green, maybe
make one par a couple of bogies, I would have
shot seventy six. The only reason I stuck at chipping
is myself. It's on me. If I had a caddy
out there, if the guys I'm playing would try to
give me tip, it's none of their fault. It's my
own fault. Maybe a little bit of My brother gave

(31:52):
me a tip like a couple of weeks ago, and
I've tried to institute and it's not working. But like
I just think Mori cow is whole deal, and all
these players like I get it sometimes, you know, I
think Max and his old caddy, who's his best friend
growing up. Sometimes it's like, hey, maybe we just need
a change and listen, that's welcome to life. But I
feel some of this, like cal more Cow is gonna

(32:13):
be going on like four or five caddies. You watch
over the course of a couple of years, It's like, bro,
what are we doing? And then you got a guy
like Patrick Cantlay, who aman's a Ryder Cup like stalwarts,
Guys that are in concrete sharpie, that are gonna be
on the team, not just this year, but for the
foreseeable future. Probably they got Patrick can't Lay missed three straight,

(32:34):
three straight major cuts. I think it was t thirty
four at the Masters, and he didn't make another major cut.
How does that happen? Like this is this is a sport.
I'm not talking about getting in the top ten. I'm
not talking about you know, top fives. I'm just you
don't make the cut. You can't make the cut in
these majors. Now, you can explain to me that Ryder

(32:56):
Cup is a lot different, and it is. I do
have faith that like can't Lay in the Ryder Cup
situation and Exaners his buddy. That's just like, that's a rough,
pretty terrible season. I mean it really when guys like
Justin Rose over the last couple of years are running
circles around you. I mean Justin Rose a great example.
What did he finish T sixteen over the weekend sixty

(33:16):
eight sixty nine. I just I don't know, man, I
really don't. I saw that Kiz kind of went viral
on my Instagram that the locker room because he was
talking about Wyndham Clark and how Wyndham just basically kind
of needs to apologize. But pictures in the locker room

(33:40):
are sacred to kind of the players, and it's kind
of embarrassing that that got out. I would agree if
it's a baseball locker room, a basketball locker room, an
NFL locker room. Like if I'm a basketball player my
eighty one home games that I'm playing, it like that's
my locker room, right, that's my team's locker room. This
is where state baseball, football whatever, Right, we go in

(34:03):
here every day. In golf, you're kind of a traveling circus.
So not only is the Oakmont locker room not your
locker room, it's literally their membership's locker room, like it
is literally a group of people's lockers right, who are
letting you borrow it because they're hosting the tournament there.

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Not only is it not your sacred place, it's literally
not your locker room, just like most of these guys.
Wyndham Clark's a good example. I think he's a member
here at Whisper Rock probably remember multiple places wherever his
locker is at his clubs, that's literally his locker in
his locker room. And if someone you know, publicized something

(34:43):
that happened in his quote unquote locker room, I would say,
one that is that that is that's that's bush league.
That's not above board, that's BS right. But whoever posted
that picture, potentially a member, maybe another player, is like,
what the fuck are we doing? This is in garrison,
It really is, because it's not the player's locker room.

(35:04):
This is not you're not on the Lakers and someone
posted something from the Lakers locker room and Lebron or
Luca's piss. It's like, why are we posting anything from
our own locker room. That's their fucking locker room. That
is not the case in golf, especially at these majors
traveling venues. And I my guess is you know Tron
Carter of No Laying Up, who I'm a huge fan of,

(35:24):
who posted it, probably got that picture from multiple people
because they're like this, this is not acceptable. We want
this out there, because if you're a member, it's like,
you're probably not gonna post it, but you one hundred
percent use the media. Get this out of here. This
is our locker room. And if I've been a member
there for twenty thirty years at one of the most
historic courses in America and you got this guy beaten

(35:45):
down the locker room, it'd be one thing too. If
it was like Tiger Phil some all time great. It's like, no, bro,
this is not gonna fly. This is not okay. It's
not acceptable. It really isn't. And then the next week
he goes trying to move on. I'm ready to move on,
you know. I take that. You know now, I also
think it was kind of stupid. Part of the story
was Oakmont wants Wyndham Clark to go to Anger Management.

(36:08):
Like if I was Wyndam Clark, I'd say kiss my ass.
But I also don't think that any of the players
can support him going this shouldn't get out, like, no,
this isn't yours. Right if I rent an Airbnb, or
I go into someone else's home or someone else's warehouse
or someone else's business and fuck it up, even if

(36:29):
I'm doing business there for a period of time or
pay you for your services, it's not mine. So I
can't be mad when that gets out. And that's you know,
I think what happened here, So anyone trying to defend
those actions, which is crazy because or sad Win him
at a pretty good week I mean, he went nuts
on the weekend. He kind of pulled a Bryson shot

(36:50):
seventy six the next three days sixty six, sixty six,
sixty five. Him and Bryson are good examples. Now Bryson's
a better player than Wyndham. But that course, if you
could vombit and control yourself off the tee when the
weather was pretty benign, you could dominate it. You really could.
And I think if you remove Scotty and I wrote

(37:11):
this down, I respect how difficult. Oakmont is right because
anytime you see these guys struggling to get pars, not
just on one individual whole, I'm talking about shooting par
a lot of respect. It's clear what these guys do
to tournaments, but like and I get it, it only happens

(37:33):
once every six or seven years. I do think this
week and the rest of the Majors were a little
more enjoyable, Like I don't need thirty under, And really,
if you remove Scotty, the winning score would have been
thirteen under. If you would have got weather, rain, way
more wind, that number could easily be like six or
seven under, I would imagine. But I enjoyed this, and

(37:56):
I know with no weather, you go across the pond
like these guys are gonna just destroy you. It's they
would do that to most courses. The Oakebon is a
complete outlier. But I'll always enjoy the Masters the most.
Most people will. It's the most popular golf tournament of
the year. But I really enjoyed that, and I've enjoyed
the last two weeks, even watching got her Up win
last week. It is fun to watch guys playing in

(38:19):
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(38:53):
let's bang out some questions here at Golopod, at golopod Instagram,
fire into those dms. We actually got a hunch. There's
a lot of debate over the last few days on
where Scotty ranks is an all time golfer. I've seen
a decent amount of pushback from people saying he's not
a top twenty player yet, how guys like Phil Brooks,
DJ Rory and Speeth are better. I think he has

(39:14):
a bit to catch up to Phil, but to me,
he's clearly better than all those guys. Where would you
rank him all time? Well, I think when you're talking
all time golfers, this is it's you'd have to get
like Brandal Shambley to break down the Ben Hogan's, the
Kerry Middlecoffs. Even you know, I never watched Arnold Palmer,

(39:35):
Jack Nicholas play golf. Obviously, those guys are you know,
on the Mount Rushmore and just cemented into the top
tennish twenty ish conversation. Some of the you know, Johnny
Miller's Lee Trevino, right, But when you talk about in
my lifetime, and I would say post like Greg Norman,

(39:58):
Nick Faldough and most what can Nick Faldo probably top
twenty twenty five player. Greg Norman's one of the all
time great talents, but left a little something to be desired.
You know, he's a polarizing player. But I would say
of the Internet era, the Tiger and Phil era, Tiger
is clearly the best player. And then I think you
get into this world of like Phil and Rory. I

(40:19):
mean what Rory's doing now in his mid thirties, still
playing at a really high level. One three times this
year just you know, finished second last week, top ten
this week. He's been incredible in majors the last several years.
To me as separated, I mean, Speets has kind of
been a non factor now for a while. DJ only
won two majors even though he won a golf tournament

(40:41):
I think for ten straight years. And I'm pretty sure
does he have twenty five wins? He has a lot
of wins. But Dustin Johnson also is now forty one
years old, and how many PGA wins does he have?
He has twenty four. So I would put Scotty Scheffler

(41:02):
above DJ above Jordan Speith. I would put him. I mean,
part of Rory is like his greatness has been for
a long long time, so it's I would still have
Rory slightly above him, though he's getting closer and closer.
So to me, Tiger easy one feel easy to I
would put Rory, who's got Scotty chasing him, And I

(41:23):
would put Scotty above Brooks. You know, Brooks won five majors.
He basically won four in a couple of year span,
but he did not win very often on the PGA Tour.
You know his major to PGA Tour victory ratio. You know,
Scotty is winning majors, but he's also winning like the

(41:46):
RBC Heritage, the waste management, the memorial. Think about this.
Brooks has five major victories and he has nine PGA
Tour victories. So more than half of Brooks's victories are majors.
That's I mean, that's one of the craziest stats for
a guy with over I would say five victories. If

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over half your stats are half your wins are majors,
I mean, that's that's unheard of. For example, Scotty has
four majors, but he has seventeen wins, so basically a
quarter of his wins are majors. And even if he
gets seven or eight majors, I bet he wins. And
assuming he's gonna keep playing, let's say he wins, I

(42:30):
don't know, thirty two times twenty five percent will be
pretty high. You know, Tiger's eighty plus wins and fifteen majors, right,
so he's what he's like, what's that fifteen percent? I'd
have him four right now? How quickly do you think

(42:51):
Scotty wins a US Open? Definitely feels like he would
be very soon with the heateror he's on, which would
be insane for him to come and Pete complete the
Grand Slam already, And then the question is how many
majors can he win? I do think about Spieth and Koepka,
and we all thought Jordan would get the Slam that
quick and rattle off a ton of majors. I thought
Brooks would too, But doesn't seem like that anymore. You

(43:13):
think Scotty could fall the same boat as them. It's
always the risk. It's why when the guy just asked
me about the ranking, Rory won majors like fifteen years ago,
and then he won another major this year. I think
he just literally went through one of the longest stretches
in like golf history. Right, there's a short list of
guys that go a decade plus. Tiger's a good example

(43:34):
from OA to nineteen. I think Jack did it too
in the early seventies to whatever was eighty six. It's
pretty hard to go that, you know. Fill's a good
example of a guy that goes a long period of
time without It's not easy to do. Most people, a
lot of good players, if you look at like their wiki,
rattle off their three, four or five majors in a
short period of time, and I think it's easy in

(43:57):
the heat of the moment. The difference is like, I
don't know what happened to Jordan. I think Jordan and
a lot of people would say he had one of
the greatest putting runs of all time. He literally made
putts from everywhere, and now he's just became a normal putter.
He's never been like the longest guy. He actually drives
the ball a lot better now than he used to.
So I'd be stunned if Scotty doesn't win multiple US Opens.

(44:21):
When you think about Scotty Scheffer. You go, that's a
US Open player. Like to me, his game like brooks
Kopka his Honestly, brooks Keopka's major game pretty boring, is
a lot like Scotti Scheffer's major game. They don't fuck
up a lot, and whenever they need a big shot
they can, you know, kind of dig deep down to

(44:41):
get it. But it's not like super entertaining like Philler Speed.
I know you've addressed this before, but I'm watching the
Open and it's so frustrating that not of the shot tracer.
I hate how NBC produces a golf tournament. They should
be ashamed and embarrassed. Yeah, I don't know, man, I
don't even know what to say at this point in time,

(45:01):
but I'm with you. It felt like a decent amount
of times that a guy would hit a shot, especially
like off the tea. It's like, you should not have
an event in twenty twenty five like chips and putts. Okay,
I'm not looking for, you know, coloring, but there should
not be a shot from the fairway, and definitely a

(45:23):
shot from the t where I don't get a shot tracer.
Unacceptable can't happen, and I understand there is some technical
error potential for the little ball. Maybe you miss it,
but I don't know what the percentage was, but it
was not even close to one hundred percent, So their coverage.

(45:44):
I think sometimes in life, when you're lost, right in
any industry, you start listen, you got it. Sometimes your
backs against the wall, you got to create some ideas.
I think sometimes the best advice is just let's simplify everything.
Let's not because I think it's easy to overcomplicate things,

(46:05):
and I think sometimes simplicity works. Right when you're watching
a football game bucking Aikman, two guys. Hell, when you're
watching CBS called golf tournament, it's immlement and jim nance
right in the big moments. I don't need much going
on here. And I like Kevin Kissner a lot, but

(46:25):
they got him faxing. I mean last year they had Shambley.
They got so many people involved. It's like, guys, we
need to take a deep breath and relax a little
bit here. It's not I've always been a proponent, and
maybe it's just because I'm biased, Like, you don't need
the super famous guy. I remember Fox got the US
Open in twenty fifteen. I thought they did a. You know,

(46:49):
Joe Buck took a lot of shit. I thought Joe
Buck was fine. I thought it was Shane Bacon and
Joe Clatt. I thought it was I thought it was cool.
But they hired Greg Norman. They hired Greg Norman to
be you know, the Trevor Limberman or the analyst and
Dustin Johnson on Whole eighteen to win the US Open.
I reme remember, he blows it way by his eagle

(47:11):
putt and he has his birdie putt to force a playoff,
and Greg Norman just goes silent. It's like it's like
Greg Norman choked again. And I understand it's not. Sometimes
you just hiring a famous person. And so many TV executives,
just like historically radio executives, think fame matters. We see
on the podcast business like the Kardashians, the Obamas. It's like, guys,

(47:35):
no one's listening to these shows. I mean, this is
not just because you have a famous name. Doesn't people
gonna you don't. It's about talent, not just a name brand.
Megan Markle, It's like, fuck, you gave her twenty million
dollars to do three shows that nobody listened to. A
great business move. I could have told you that thing
was gonna fail. Give me someone talented. People will listen

(47:56):
promote them. And I just think sometimes in works that
I don't know what's going on, the broadcast is bad.
It just doesn't They're just lost. And I think Bones
is elite. You'd be better off with just Dan Hicks
and Bones calling the golf. A guy I was playing
with once told me to never hit a straight shot

(48:16):
and that it's nearly impossible to do it time after time.
Instead to always play a fade or a draw. This
has helped me be more consistent. But do you think
that's true. I think Jack Nicholas's famous kind of motto
and golf is and this is at for the highest level,
but like if you're a fader or drawer, too often

(48:37):
in tournaments, when the shot calls from the opposite a
guy will try to play the shot that he's not
comfortable with. It's like if you play cut on every shot,
worst case scenario, can't get close to the pen, played
to the middle of the green, and I'm for my game.
I just play a cut every once in a while.
I did it yesterday kind of for fun because the
wind was pumping. I played a draw off the tee

(48:59):
and it's really hard for me. I just cocked my shoulders,
cocked my feet and aimed the club down the middle
and it kind of worked, and it was a bomb.
I mean it went like three hundred and twenty yards.
But it's not something that I can rely on. It's
not a shot shape swing kind of feel that I like.
I'm a cut guy, and sometimes I get bored with
that and I try and I always do worse, and

(49:22):
I just try to play. When I play my best golf,
I have one shot shape and I'm a three four handicap.
But I think when you look at the tour, most
guys Scottie Scheffler is a cut guy. He plays a fade. Now.
He's so great when he has to, he can draw
the ball. But you know him wrong, Rory forever, draw, draw,

(49:42):
draw now, He's I think to be a great player,
you gotta have the cut. So he's kind of instituted that.
But I think the best player's historic Lee Trevino only
played a cut. It's only the only shot he get hit.
So actually why he never played grade at the Masters,
Because you kind of have to to draw the right
handed player, But I do think I can't hit a
straight shot. I mean, sometimes obviously go straight. I don't

(50:03):
mean it to, but I don't even know how. You know,
I would love to hit a straight shot. But I
do agree with the guy some people just with technology.
Whatever your shot is like your natural shot. Just obviously
some days are different than others. But over the course
of your years playing golf, you're gonna have a tendency

(50:24):
one way or the other. Just play that shot that
will give you the best chance to be good, because
let's face it, the way to be good is hit
fairways and greens. Whether you're a ten handicap or scratch golfer.
If I tell you're in the fairway more often than not,
that you're you know, if you're in the fairway way
more than you're in the trees, and you're on the
green way more than you're in the bunker, you're just

(50:46):
gonna shoot better and take your buddy's money. I mean,
that's just a fact. I'm curious your thoughts on Horvat
not being allowed to film at the Barracuda. The consensus
online seems to be that the tour messed up. If
this is one Tours the decision that I would probably agree. However,
I would assume that the tour can't let Grant film

(51:06):
due to their contracts with the other media. I don't
think this is that complicated. They invited Grant to play
because this was a tournament that one is overshadowed by
a major and two has little to no star power
in the field. So typically I looked at the leaderboard
yesterday a lot of names that casual golf fans, I'm

(51:30):
talking golf fans are not gonna recognize and just are
not gonna watch. Last night, I had a few cocktails
after we played and it was on in the background.
It's a cool looking course. I've played it before, Old
Greenwood and Trucky. But this is not a normal PGA
Tour event. I mean, it's technically an opposite field event,
but this is not some breadwinner for the business of

(51:53):
the tour. So they invited Horvat. Now Horvat is not
aspiring to play in the PGA Tour, not his end goal.
He's in the business of shooting YouTube videos or he
controls the content, he controls the advertisers, he controls the business,
and he partners with Phil and other PGA tour pros
to play. His business model is completely different from the

(52:15):
PGA Tour's business model, just like my business model is
different from radio's business model. Like we all have different
business models. But if I don't aspire to do something
and someone asked me where other people think, it's gonna
be really cool, And even if I thought it'd be
kind of cool too, if I have other stuff going
on and you won't play by my rules, it's easy

(52:35):
for me to say no, even if I know like
they're probably gonna say no. I just want to hear
them say no. Grant because he's such good buddies with
Wesley Bryan, who's also a YouTuber but a PGA Tour player.
A guy who's one on the tour understands both sides.
He knows what works on YouTube, and he has a

(52:55):
very good understanding. Hell, he's technically suspended right now of
the way they preat in terms of their regulations. So
I don't think Grant ever thought he was gonna play
in this event because he knew with his ask they
were going to say no. He one hundred. Maybe there
was a slight chance, hey, maybe they would break the

(53:16):
rules for us they were never gonna allow him film because,
like you said, they are in business with CBS, NBC
and you signed these contracts. No different. I use this
example like an NFL player. Some of these NFL guys
or NBA guys started YouTube channels right of them, just
traveling doing different stuff. They could not bring their YouTube

(53:38):
guy during the game and have him film in the
front row of them playing and post it one It
would get flag copyright infringement and the NBA would tell
that guy like, you're not allowed to do this. So
it's just I think it became way more emotional because
a lot of people thought, like, how could he turn
this down? Yeah, I mean it would be cool. Like

(54:01):
if they invited me, which I would have no chance
to finish anything but dead last in a tournament, would
it benefit me to do it? Maybe it'd be a
cool experience. But if I told you, well, hell, they're
not gonna show you on TV, Like would they show
Grant on TV a lot? In theory they might, But
what if they didn't. I don't know. I just don't

(54:22):
think it's that big a deal. Playing at the Phoenician
for my future brother in law's bachelor party. My question

(54:45):
is this Have you ever played it? And what makes
golf different in Arizona Coming from Texas. I just think
what makes desert golf different than any golf traditional golf
is you just run into the desert, so there's grass

(55:06):
and then it just abruptly ends. Like where I grew
up playing in Davis, Sacramento, the Bay Area, just northern California,
there's just a large property that's basically all covered in
grass and the overwhelming golf in the area that I
grew up playing. And I would just say in California

(55:28):
in general would not be considered a quote unquote target golf,
and I would say a huge element to Arizona golf
is like specific target related because if you miss, especially
at certain courses, you're done, like you're just your ball's
just gone. And there's an element like being in Tahoe

(55:50):
with mountain golf, right it's lined by the trees, and
if you go in the trees, you're basically done and
you're gonna lose the ball. Arizona has that element. So
like when I watch some of your guys tournaments in Texas,
I've never played golf in Texas. It reminds me a
little bit of old school golf in California where you
missed the fairway. It sucks like you're in the trees.
You have to hit hooks and cuts, but your ball

(56:12):
you're not gonna take a lot of not like unplayables.
Maybe there's out of bounds, but you're not in a bush.
And that's I think a big part overall theme in
Arizona golf. It's very target related now, Phoenician, I haven't
played in a couple of years. A little more open,
but there's definitely some places where you're just you're just done.

(56:35):
Loved your Spy Tech interview. Appreciate that. Anyway, here's my
golf question. You see value in taking lessons. I've taken
a handful of lessons in my life and never really
saw the value. I learned ninety nine percent through YouTube.
I'm wondering what your stance is on YouTube versus professional instruction.
I would say the main difference is when I take

(56:59):
a lesson from from Jim. Let's say Jim gives me
a lesson something. Say I got the chipping yips. Hey Jim,
can you help me with chipping? We spend an hour,
maybe we go out to a whole we chip fifty yards,
thirty yards, bunker shots, and he's like, I think you
should work on these three things. Put the ball farther

(57:19):
back in your stance, stand more upright, change your grip
whatever they are. Like, he gives you specific things to
work on, and maybe one of those three things are wrong,
but the other two things can really help you out.
And just one specific thought to help you. I'm like you,
I watch a lot of YouTube instruction, no different Instagram instruction.

(57:40):
If I go to that and I go, I typed
this in last night chipping, uh chipping videos right, chipping lessons. Well,
everyone's different. So he's giving a lesson on YouTube to
Will to James, to Julie. Well, her issues might not
be my issues. So I might be able to find

(58:00):
something that can help me on YouTube or Instagram, right,
whether it's rock O Media or Padrick Harrington given tips.
But maybe that tip doesn't relate to me. So I
start looking at that tip and start using that tip,
and then it fucks me up even more. Now sometimes
it helps, So it's just it's it's risky. Now. Not

(58:21):
every instructor is the same. Some are clearly better than others.
But I think it's easier to go down a rabbit
hole in online and confuse yourself more. Now if it's
one specific thing, you know, when I was I was like,
I think my grips, I think I got two bigger grips,

(58:43):
And I youtubed it and I watched a couple of
people like, so I just got different grips. I got
thinner grips. It's easier for me to grip my club,
and I've played a lot better since. I do think
it made a big difference. But I think if I
just like my chipping yips. I watched like ten videos
now transfusions and a couple of course lights, but I

(59:04):
just I don't think it helped me, and I still
feel lost. Have you ever played Orange Tree in Scottsdale?
I have not. On a separate note, being from Iowa,
do you have any idea how different courses in Arizona play.
Does the ball carry as far? Are the greens fast slow?
The ball carries farther in Arizona especially, I mean in

(59:24):
the winter, if it gets a little chili, obviously it
doesn't fly as far. But in the summer it definitely
flies a little farther than Arizona I mean, think about
spring training, Guys hit home runs obviously, just you know,
it varies course to course in terms of green speeds.
One thing that happens in Arizona, and it happens in Vegas.
It just happens in place with extreme heat. It does

(59:45):
not happen in California, is they have to change out
the grass. Right, Like most courses air raate a green
during during the year. So there's gonna be a point
in time in the year where they basically air rate
the green. Right for those of you know, plug the
holes or poke the holes and just you can play it.
But it's like a joke. It should be automatic two putts.

(01:00:08):
In Arizona, they shut down courses for a month in
the summer and they basically change out the grass, and
then they do it again for a couple of weeks
typically in the winter. So most courses, I would say
all courses public and private, are shut down between thirty
five and forty five days during the season, like TPC

(01:00:30):
right now is shut down in Arizona, just like I
think a lot of the country clubs are typically shut
down in July because they go, well, it's gonna be
one hundred and ten degrees, so people are gonna play.
This is when we change it. So right now, most
of the greens throughout Arizona are really really slow because
they've all been air rated over the course of the

(01:00:52):
last three weeks. As someone who just who wasn't quite
old enough to grasp Tiger's domination in his prime, how
close is Scotty getting to Tiger level? Yeah, I mean,
I I think it's hard to compare. I do think

(01:01:14):
Tiger just like I think like the older version of Phil,
like thirty five to forty, just like I think you
know Rory when he's on You know Ernie Els, there's
a small group of guys who can just play with you, right,
like Michael probably gonna win, but like Pete Michael versus

(01:01:35):
you know, a great Lebron team or a great Curry
team or a great Tim Duncan team, like they can
play with you, right. And that's where I think in golf,
Like I would give advantage to Tiger in a big
tournament up against anyone I watched. But if you told
me that, like we're playing Augusta tomorrow and Phil has

(01:01:56):
his A game, Rory has his a game. Speath in
his prime has game, Kopka has his A game, Ernie
Els has his a. Ernie's bad example, he didn't play
well with the Masters, but those guys could play go
toe to toe. But over all the body of work, yeah,
I mean, I don't think you can really compare them.
Nine of the top fifteen at the Open or American.

(01:02:19):
Nine of the top fifteen at the US Open are
also American. Twelve of the top twenty at the Masters.
Any long shots or guys from the og Ryder Cups
you can see squeaking in if they finished the season
outside of the top twelve. I do think that Wyndham Clark,
you know, part of the Ryder Cup this year at

(01:02:39):
beth Page. It's really long, you know, some of those
courses on the in the northeast wing foot beth Page.
It's like kind of for a bomber, right, So obviously
the first couple guys you think of, like Rory Bryson.
But to build for Keegan, to build the team, you know,
Harris English is gonna be on the team. I do

(01:02:59):
think Wyndham Clark is a guy that if he plays
well down the stretch, again, assuming the team likes him
like he just he fucking bombs it. So I think
we're in trouble. I really do, because they got the
mix on the on the European team of legendary players,

(01:03:22):
right Rory rom Got guys are just elite players and
just comfortable in the Ryder Cup with like a veteran
guy like Justin Rose Younger, kind of ascending stars like Hovelin,
Ludwig Hadden Lowry who's just a solid like tenth eleven,
twelfth guy, these Hoyguard twins. When I was at the

(01:03:43):
Waste Management earlier this year, we watched a couple of
groups t off on one. I think Hoyguard was in
space group. One of them it was Rasmus Could. It
was one of the two of them, and they actually
both one of them finished like twelfth that the waiste
manager to the other was like twentieth. They both played
all that week. I remember looking at him, I mean,
they're identical twins and thinking, this guy's fucking big. It's

(01:04:06):
like six to two. It looks like two ten guys
look like blue chip golfers, like just big, well built,
like our team. It's like Harris English, Russell Henley. I mean,
I like the the top of our group. The Bryson's,
the Scotties, the Xanders. But after that, like Morikawa and
can't they give me got her Up? I think got

(01:04:29):
Her Up is now firmly in the mix. And I
mean I still got a couple of weeks left of
the season to kind of make a run here. But
with how far he hits, he had a couple drives today,
I give him a lot of credit. Clearly he's comfortable
on European soil. He hit one. He hits like this
low cut and even off the when he hit it,

(01:04:49):
he kind of like, oh man, it flew this bunker.
It had to go like three hundred and seventy yards.
It's like this guy's got He just looks kind of
like a chubby or Kopka, just looks like a guy
with power. So I don't know. I mean, I Keegan
said it. I think last week or two weeks ago.
Just because you're seventh, Like if you're in the top

(01:05:10):
six on points, you auto qualify. He's like, just if
you're seventh or eight, you are not guaranteed anything. So
I think everything is gonna be on the table with
him picking players. I think if you're Kegan, it's weird.
You're the captain, so there's pressure on you to win
it home soil. I think this is a good as time,
good of time as any to just throw a couple

(01:05:33):
of curveballs, like what are you just gonna bring? You
know Jordan speech, just because I don't know. Scotty's on
a different level right now. The only player who seems
to be close at times is Rory. Also, had he
not been arrested or had the Ravioli incident, he could
be on. He could be at more tour and major wins.

(01:05:54):
I am someone who is too young to see prime
tiger golf, but can't be played much better than Scotty.
How many majors do you think Scotty get to? Let's
end on this. I'm with you. Like the way Scotty
is playing. I think, by all the metrics is as
good as most players in the history of this sport.

(01:06:17):
I think right now, I think you gotta be careful,
which is easiest that you always gotta say gotta be careful.
I mean, he's twenty nine years old, so typically a
lot of guys like get better in their thirties. I mean,
Roy McElroy is better right now over this course of
this year, then he won that he was when he
won all those majors in his early to mid twenties.

(01:06:39):
I think he'll tell you might not even be close.
So who's to say Scotty can't be a better players
at thirty five than he was at twenty nine. Now,
statistically you'd say it'd be hard. I would say, right now,
you'd say like eight to ten. I mean, is there
a decent chance at the end of next year he's
sitting at six? Like what I think the way to

(01:06:59):
look at is what would you put his over under
at next year? One and a half? Two and a
half feels a little extreme because you're just mounting up,
as he's shown the last couple of years, you just
have weird year or weird round or get arrested. I'd
say it is over under next year at six. So
I would say it would be stunning if he ends

(01:07:20):
next year not at five. He'd be thirty years old
with five. If there's a decent chance he could win six,
he's going to be the heavy favorite going into the
Masters next year. I don't know a tournament he's won twice,
so it's like this fucking guy plays well there even
this year, he was off early and still I think
finished third. I mean it wasn't for Rory McElroy. Scotti Scheffler, Yeah,

(01:07:45):
I mean I I think all signs point to now.
The question is how many can he win? And when
does he win the US Open? And he's gonna be,
if he's healthy, the heavy favorite at the US Open
next year, that's for sure, and the heavy favorite in
every tournament he plays for the foreseeable future. And it's
not like he's just a favorite. I mean he's in
some of these PGA events, he's going to be like

(01:08:06):
two and three to one. I mean, hell, looking back,
I didn't even like him that much this week in
the Open. Plus four fifties incredible odds for a guy
that at any moment can just kick the shit out
of everybody. You could look back and we might, assuming
he has another good year, that he had one of
those stretches. I saw someone broke it down on Instagram

(01:08:28):
that if you invested in Scotty Scheffler over the last
three years instead of investing into the S and P
five hundred, it wouldn't even be close what the returns
would be for Scotty than anywhere else because if you
think about it, if you're getting four or five six
to one on Scotty, even if he wins six of

(01:08:48):
the fifteen events that he plays in. So if you lose,
if you're betting, let's just pick one hundred dollars. So
in the eleven events that you lose, eleven hundred dollars.
Think of all times that you're turning one hundred into
five hundred or seven hundred or four hundred, and that
adds up. You are crushing your investment. So I just

(01:09:09):
think if I had to bet right now, I'd say eight.
He he's halfway to it. He wins like three over
the course of the next couple of years, just the
way it works. Usually a little dry spell, maybe one
when he's like thirty five years old. But I would
say eight, which when we talk about Phil like he's

(01:09:33):
this all time non tiger legend, he wants six. So
eight's a lot. I would say ten's on the table
and if something gets weird, six but eight feels like
the right number. The volume

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