Nick Wright reacts to Tua Tagovailoa's comments on Tyreek Hill at Miami Dolphins training camp. Is Tua right for publicly calling out Tyreek after the star wide receiver's controversial remarks following the Dolphins' Week 18 loss to the Jets last season? Later, Nick breaks down why he believes Tyreek will return to Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs for the 2026 NFL season. Later, Nick reacts to former Carolina Panthers star Cam Newton leaving Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts off of his top 10 NFL QBs list. Is Cam right? And which of the two QBs is better? Lastly, Nick shares his thoughts on the WNBA All-Star Game protest and what the future holds for Indiana Fever star Caitlin Clark, Chicago Sky star Angel Reese, and the rest of the league in their fight for more pay. #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right
with Nick Right the best takes in moments from this
week on the show Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Tua isn't exactly welcoming Tyreek back with open arms. After
Tyreek did that little thing at the end of twenty
twenty four, Terrek took some accountability and saying I need
to be better as a leader. I feel like you
probably should have said as a star player. But with
things already off to a bad start, how do you
see Miami's season going.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I want to believe in Miami a little bit. I
think that they are you know, I like the team
that used to be overvalued that now I think people
have gone too far in the other direction on I
tend to like those teams and my aunt I really
like the Jalen Ramsey, Minka Fitzpatrick trade. I think they
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got better there. Tyreek I think will be better this year.
So there, and I think that that last playoff spot
in AFC should be pretty open. So there are some
reasons that I kind of was leaning. You know, maybe
maybe I'll believe in the Dolphins as a playoff team
this year, especially because speaking of the hot seats, I
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think you know, Mike McDaniel, the GM, I think they
know we got to start putting some pelts on the wall,
you know what I mean. We got to get back
on the right track. This is where you might think
I'm being unfair. So to his comments yesterday were basically, yeah,
(01:39):
they speaking for me and for the team. He wasn't
speaking for himself. He's like, you know, Tyreek, what Tyreek
did is not something that you just say my bad
about and you know we're all good like you gotta,
you know, work on yourself. You got to earn back trust.
I'm paraphrasing, but he said all this publicly to the media.
(02:02):
So here's where I mean the exact quote is when
you say something like that, you don't just come back
with my bad. You gotta work that relationship up. He's
working on himself. I didn't love that being a public
comment from TUA. So here's what I'll say, And demon's
(02:24):
that you can tell me no, that's why I thought
you were gonna say I'm being unfair, So just hear
me out on this. Okay, what Tyreek did was way
out of line. There is no excusing it. He was
a bad teammate. He was immature. It was you know,
it was bad. He's also Tyreek Kill. He's receiver, he's cut,
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he's he's a receiver. He's a kind of known at
times knuck ahead. He he has he he you know,
just this week he was like, you know, I talked
with my dad, and you know, I thought it was
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really important that this offseason I just do football and
family stuff. Meanwhile, you know, I'm pretty sure he's in
a legitimate beef with I show speed and like about
the racing and like, so Tyreek is just a superstar
(03:34):
witch dude. Yeah, like a bit of a dufist, a
bit of a dufis and got a lot of stuff. Okay,
he does not excuse what he said, but we're also
I don't think you're not getting in the Tyreek Kill
business for maturity, professionalism, and leadership. You're getting in the
(03:54):
Tyreek Kill business because he's freaking awesome. Right. Two is
your quarterback, and Tua and Tyreek have to work for
the team to work. So I wouldn't care at all
if at the first day of training camp, Tua got
up in front of the team and was like, Tyreek,
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you betrayed all of us. You have a lot of
you know, making up to do that was wrong, you know,
rd him the riot Act privately, but publicly, I think
the answer has to be either, Yeah, listen, I think
Tyreek's addressed that. Any feelings I have on that, I'm
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gonna keep between me and Tyreek and me and the team.
But you know, we know that he and I got
to get back to what we were two years ago
for this team to have a chance, and I believe
we're gonna do that. You either do that or and
Toua might not be comfortable with this because I know
he's like a deeply religious guy. You just flat lie.
Oh no, Tyreek, Tyreek, We're all good. You know, it
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was emotional right after the season. Nobody cared. I think
those are your two best options rather than telling the
media no. Everyone was really bothered by that. And actually
it we're still working on it because then it continues
like I'm going to need an update on that, you
know what I mean. And so again Tyreek put to
(05:24):
A in a terrible position.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And he was throughout that like it seemed like he
he seemed pretty nervous, I don't want to say nervous,
but constantly walking back stuff and like thinking super hard
about the stuff. He was saying, Oh, you're talking about
Tyreek at the end of the year. No, I'm talking
about two in the press. I mean I felt like
he was sweaty.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But yeah, well, I mean he was Miami right off
practice field. But yes, I agree, I agree with you
on that regard. But I also thought Tyreek when he
gave this initial thing right after the playoff falls, didn't
exactly know what he was trying to say, and then
was like, ah, I'm out. I just think that there
is sometimes when you are the face of an organization
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and you get put in bad spots by people and publicly,
you got to just present a united front. That's the
you know, that's all that I'm or you can go
Peyton Manning about was it Mike vander jack the kicker?
(06:29):
So this you'll love this, de Monsey because you have
no recollection of this whatsoever. Mike Vanderjat, who's a pretty
good kicker for the Colts and the Aughts, went on
some radio show after another Colt's playoff loss and took
shots at Peyton the kicker, and then yeah, the kicker,
(06:51):
and then Peyton was asked about it at the Pro Bowl,
like during a sideline interview, and Peyton's like, yeah, I mean,
I really didn't expect that I was gonna get asked
about our idiot kicker getting all liquored up and popping
off at the mouth on the radio. I'll deal with
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that if he's still a teammate in the future, Like
this guy's gone, this guy's gone, I'm not dealing with him.
I have no interest in him. And so that that's
the other that's the other option. The other option is
if Tua would have been like, yeah, I don't think
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it's gonna be a problem because I don't think Tyryk's
gonna be on the team. Like that's the nuclear option.
But so but if he's going to be on the team,
then you gotta you gotta sometimes clean up somebody else's mess.
That's the only even if it's not fair topic.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It sounds like the Chiefs and Tyreek Hill kind of
miss each other.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, I told you I I told you guys a
year ago that I'm very excited for Tyreek Kill wearing
a Chiefs uniform in twenty twenty six, because that's I
think going to happen. It's not gonna happen this year,
but that I think is going to happen, so it
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Speaker 2 (10:14):
So Sirianni does not want to think of this year
as going for a repeat. Jalen Hurts is also focused
on the present. He won't even wear his super Bowl
and he's saying that moment is behind us.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
On real quick before we get to the other thing.
What's your take on Jalen Hurts not him refusing to
put on the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Right, he sounds like Dan O's or something in that
in that quote. But but yeah, I mean he's put
it on, he's warned.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
He says he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
He's warned. I mean that's definitely he's put the ring off.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He's saying he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Why not it's not I I don't know, I mean,
maybe not wear it out, but like I mean, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Of course, but like put it on once, press little
button so the stupid wings come, like I don't know,
like whatever, all right, keep going.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So he is now in a one sided debate with
Cam Newton. Yeah, what's what's your take on this?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
While Okay, So when I say one sided, I mean
he hasn't chimed in, but ca Cam has. So this
is kind of the back and forth of it and
full disclosure again. I really like Cam. Cam was one
of my me Betting on Cam was pre What's Right Show,
(11:31):
betting on the Jags where I just couldn't every week
I was like, you know what line I like. I
think the Panthers are underrated or undervalued. I also think
Cam had the single greatest college season of all time,
and I think that fifteen and one year in the
pros was one of the greatest individual accomplishments any players
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ever had given his supporting cast. So Cam didn't have
Jalen In's top ten quarterbacks, and then people got mad
at them and Cam, you know, it's the old It's
another version of the Charles Barkley or the bus driver
(12:16):
or bus rider discussion is what we're having here. And
I do find these two players like Cam Newton versus
Jalen Hurts debate fascinating just because it really reveals a
lot about what you value, because I don't think there
(12:41):
is definitively demon's a wrong answer, right. But and what
I think is interesting is I am certain to my
core that Jalen Hurts could not have gotten that Panther's
team to fifteen wins in the Super Bowl. I don't
(13:03):
think that's unfair. I don't think that is me taking
a shot. I don't think there's ten quarterbacks twelve quarterbacks
in NFL history that necessarily could have gotten that Panthers
team to have that season. With that said, I also
(13:26):
am not sure that Cam could have had this sustained
success that Jalen has had with the Eagles. And so
obviously these are all hypotheticals.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
The similar players. I mean, I feel like Cam Newton
is a little bit more of a of an athletic
freak than Yes, then Jalen hurts.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah. I mean, he's just so huge and he was
faster now Jalen has. Cam didn't have a lot of
years of high level passing numbers, but neither does Jalen.
It's really interesting. I also think, I mean, again, the
(14:14):
year they went fifteen to one, his receivers were Ted Gin,
Jericho Contree, Devin Functius, and Corey brown An. He won
league MVP, and obviously Greg Olsen was an awesome tight end,
but that you know, it's his receiving core I I
(14:34):
think Cam looks at it as man put me on
that type of team and we're the greatest team ever.
And I understand that line of thinking. Again, Jalen's not
(14:56):
commenting on this, but if I were Jalen, I would
be like, well, I was on that team and we
were pretty good. We won the Super Bowl, in the
NFC Championship Game, like one hundred to forty. We we
won thirteen games in a row to finish the year
if you exclude the game that I got hurt, Like
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what what more do you did you want from us?
From a team perspective? And so I understand, now do
I think that there has been a weird media I
don't know if over correction is the right word there.
(15:41):
There has been to me, a there's been some patronizing,
almost as the word I would use in the discussion
of Jalen So like I saw Orlovsky's video about Jalen Hurts.
Now Orlovsky's video, he is not calling Jalen Hurts the
(16:02):
best quarterback in football, to be clear, but his caption
of it. And this isn't like a newspaper where you know,
you don't write your own headlines. He's let me see
if I can find this ad the and and I'm
trying to find Sorry, I just clicked on it. And
(16:22):
do you guys still have my audio? Am I still good?
I just clicked on something? Okay, good? Sorry? Let me
find the exact caption, because it was he wasn't calling
him the best quarterback in football, and but the caption was, really,
don't care where you rank Hurts. He sits at one.
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So if somebody was like, wait, are you saying he's
the best quarterback in football? Like that? Again, if you
watch the video, he's not saying that. But there is
to me a there has been an interesting, what's the
(17:06):
right word, an interesting shift in how we have talked
about quarterbacks the last decade or so when it comes
to Jalen specifically, which is usually if people think quarterback's good,
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the team is amazing, then we lead with the team
as the driving force. And that's what I think Cam
is getting at. I think with Jalen there, and I
think understandably it's because some of his best games ever
(17:56):
have been these monster Super Bowl performances. There has been
a reclassification of well, maybe Jalen is way better than
his numbers suggest, and he simply is kind of suppressing
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his own individual accolades for team success, which I understand
that line of thinking, but it does kind of contradict
his own teammate from the end of last year. It's like, hey,
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we got to get better in the passing game, and
it kind of goes against what we saw when the
Eagles were unbelievable in twenty twenty two. They won the
Super Bowl in twenty twenty four, and the one dip
twenty twenty three was a year that they really tried
to open up the passing game more. And so it
this is one of the fun things to me about
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kind of sports debate is this isn't really defied, like
it's not provable, at least in the short term. And
here and now, we don't know what Jalen would look
like if he played for the twenty fifteen Panthers, and
we don't know what Cam would look like if he
had played for the twenty twenty four Eagles. I do
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think that there is an element of even for a
lot of Jalen's biggest supporters. If you were just asking,
be like, hey, who's the better quarterback, Cam Newton or
Jalen Hurts, I think most people are like, well, Cam Newton,
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And if the question is why or what's your evidence,
I honestly think the answer is it's just better. And
sometimes like, I know that can feel like a cop out,
but it does feel real here and where I will
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and I know it might sound like I don't know
I should. I don't usually go back and listen to
the pods, but I might go back and listen to
this segment because there's a possibility I'm not making a
lot of sense, but I am.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I uh, I find this time fascinating because it is
to me layered and nuanced, because, like I said, if
you asked me who was better Cam or Jalen, my
snap answer is like, obviously it's Cam.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But the with that said, if you asked me, am
I certain that Cam would be better for this Eagles team,
I don't know that I would say yes. I think
when you have a team as stacked as the current Eagles,
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having a quarterback who doesn't seem that focused on his
individual accolades or success could really play in your favor.
And I think Jalen deserves a huge credit for that.
To push man, I sorry, well, I mean I think
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that's probably a bad example because Cam Cam was arguably
the greatest short yardage player in NFL history. Now, when
they wouldn't do a toush push, they just did rightular
quarterback power jump over the line or quarterback sneak, you
know what I mean. So it was it was different,
But I I am really interested because one day in
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Jalen's career, he's not going you know, you're not gonna
have Saquon Agdavonte. You're not going to have this amazing
supporting cast. And there will be a time where the
Eagles are in a position where it's like, listen, man,
our defense isn't you know what we had hoped. We
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don't have this great running game. If we're gonna win,
we're gonna need you to do it. You know, the
old school quarterback style, drop back thirty sometimes and throw
the ball. I think there's real question, like there is
a real question over whether or not he can do that,
and so we This is my ultimate endpoint on this,
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and I am definitely at times guilty of this, which
is why probably I'm a little circular in my reasoning here.
We give guys a ton of credit for doing more
with less, the lebron on dragging the seven Calves to
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the finals. You know that type of thing like, look
at you, you had so little help, look at what
you did. We don't always do a good enough job
of recognizing just because you can do more with less
doesn't mean you can do the most with a ton
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and Jalen has proven he can do the most with
this great situation, and not everybody can do that, and
so and this is something I'd be interested at some
point in talking to Cam about.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, so the ladies of the WNBA All Star Game,
we're protesting with shirts that read pay us what you
owe us. And Kelsey Palm took a little bit of
a shot at Caitlin Clark after and said that zero
members of Team Clark were very president. It's could have
been an inside thing, been a dig. What did you
see here?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Okay, So that the Kelsey Plum thing I think was
totally misconstrued and that's not the real story. But I
want to address it because Ramona Shelburne also I thought,
did a good job addressing it this morning. So Kelsey
Plum is up on the dais with was it Sabrina
who was the other player alongside her? Yeah, okay, so
was Sabrina. Sabrina, by the way, is on Team Clark.
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And they talk about the meeting that morning about wearing
the shirts, and Kelsey Plum says like, now, no members
of Team Clark were there, taking poking fun at Sabrina.
And also I think or I thought poking fun at
the fact that they had all been out partying the
night before and that team didn't get up in time.
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That was my initial reaction. Ramona Shelburne then reports out
on it today. WNBA players, including Kelsey Plum, had been
discussing the pay us what You os T shirts wrote
over a week. According to multiple sources, they settled on
the idea at breakfast Saturday morning that very few players
on Team Clark attended because of the early start, but
(25:06):
just to make sure, sources said, Brianna Stewart and the
FISA Collier and others went by the Team Clark locker
room before the game to make sure they were on
board with the IDM plan. They were. I thought, Ramona rites,
I thought it was fairly obvious. Kelsey Plum tried to
make a joke that didn't land. The meeting where players
decided to where the shirts at eight thirty am on Saturday.
Understandable that not many from Team Clark made it after
(25:28):
what we saw on stud buds from the night before. Now,
I am not locked in enough on WNBA lore to
know about this stud bud stream prior to WNBA All
Star weekend, it seemed very popular during All Star weekend,
but I was. I am logical enough to know Kelsey
Plum was not in a moment of WNBA player unity
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taking a shot at half of the All Stars. But
because Caitlin Clark's name was involved, people took it and
rain with it. That's not the story. The story is
how many people are such utter losers. And here's what
I mean, folks, general rule of thumb blind. If workers
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are trying to extract more money from owners and management,
general rule of thumb, you should be on the worker's side. Now.
I know some of you listening are like, well, what
about me? I own a eighteen person habit astery business
(26:34):
and that I'm an owner. Okay, good you, I guess
can be management. But the vast majority of us, and
I say this by the way, as a silent partner
owner of a small business. Uh you know it's very small.
It's my wife's boutique. But like I guess, I technically
(26:56):
have my hand in both pots. Worker and business owner.
Doesn't matter. The people that create the product create the value.
Those people trying to extract more money at the very least,
you shouldn't be rooting against them. And if you are
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going to try to be like, well, actually, here's the thing. Actually,
know what the hell you're talking about. So here's the reality.
Does anybody does anybody intelligent actually think that, well, Max's
contract in the NBA. In the NBA is around fifty
(27:37):
million a year, so I guess max contract in the
WNBA should be about fifty million a year. No, nobody's
making that case. Nobody with a platform that matters is
arguing NBA and WNBA players should be paid dollar for
dollar the same, like the purses at Wimbledon can be.
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But it makes sense for the purses at Wimbledon to
be the same men's and women's. They get similar TV ratings,
the tickets self for the same they are generating the
same money. The issue that the WNBA players have that
is a fair and correct issue is multifold. And again,
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so many losers are just bootlicking management sellouts because they
think one day they might actually be It's the same
folks that are like, well, you know, right now, a
tax policy that helps out the lower class would help me,
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but what about when I have fifty million dollars and
I want to pass that down to my kids. It's like, Buddy,
probably not getting there. You probably should worry a little
bit more of the here and the now than the
estate tax. But I digress. What people are arguing is
in the NBA demonse if it's a fifty to fifty
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split of back br basketball related income. So if the
league generates ten billion dollars, the players salaries get five billion,
and that's how you pay the players. The owners get
five billion, and that's how they run the league, you
know what I mean, pay all the bills that come
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associated with running the league, and they hope there's money
left over. It's fifty to fifty in the NBA. Do
you have a guess what? Again? The size of that
pie doesn't change. The size of the pie can change.
Pardon me, the split does not. It's fifty to fifty
it youse Brew told me the other day. It used
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to be sixty three thirty seven in the player's favor,
and the owners have kind of chipped away at it
or whatever. But it's fifty to fifty now, which feels
pretty fair. Okay, Like I'm not gonna act like owners
don't do anything. I'm not gonna act like they're unimportant. Now.
I would always again, yeah, I would always listen I'm
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a union guy. I'm a union kid. I my dad
was the president of firefighters union for basically my entire life.
I you know, I am a union guy. My first
term paper I ever wrote my life was about leq
WALSSA and the Polish Solidarity movement. It's colored my politics,
It's colored who I am. It's I think when a
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lot of people talk about man, you know, we see
these stupid old tweets. They're like, you know, in the seventies,
you know you people weren't able to the man worked,
the wife stayed at home, you had a car, you
had a house, you sent your kid's school. It is
like what changed? And people, because they're dopes, are like,
what changed is immigrants? When what changed is the union,
(30:52):
jobs and factors and stuff like that. But again, sorry
for being political this morning, but this is kind of
a political thing. So go back to you demand what
do we think? Or what is your guest?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
The WNB? Yeah, the split players.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Owner to player, what do you think the split is as.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Of this moment? I think it's like seventy thirty.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
How about ninety one to nine?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Oh wow, ninety one nine owners.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Ninety one nine owners? Now what folks, reaction is going
to be but the league loses money. But twenty two
two thirds of the league he lost money last year,
got it? Okay? So quick question on that honest question,
because the world has changed in the last two years
in the WNBA, thanks in large part to Kitlin Clark,
(31:45):
not solely to Kaitlin Clark, but she's the driving force
and the success of women's college basketball and the eyes
and the ratings, all of that. Guys, you think right
now WNBA teams are worth more or less than we're
two years ago. You think that if you bought the
WNBA team two years ago and you offered it up
for sale today that you would get more or less money.
(32:07):
Do you think if it's such a bad business that,
oh my god, you can't you can't claw any more
money away from Are there a bunch of w NBA
teams for sale it's like, oh my god, nobody will
buy one? Or are they expanding the league? Is it
a league where more people want to get in? Again?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I don't want to expanding the league? Doesn't it also
make it pretty pretty weird to up it right now?
Wouldn't it make sense? For like, once the all the
teams are there, because then there's gonna be some other
split taken away from the teams when those two teams
do get there, is that now or.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
No I split because like in the NBA, they're gonna
get split. Right, You're bringing in more money, there's expansion
fees all that, and I don't I'm not going to
I have to be careful on what I say here,
but I actually have a little bit of insight into
(33:06):
what what it costs for a new WNBA team because
Kansas City is trying to get one, and I have
had very casual conversations about being a very very small
(33:30):
part of an investment group. And I gotta tell you.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
It ain't cheap.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Right now, people think WNBA is on the uptick. They
think it's a growth industry, so because it is, and
so this idea that the players should just be satisfied,
and this idea that the poor WNBA owners like uh
(33:59):
think about the owners that are losing money, when with
most pro sports, the real profit is in the appreciation
of the team that in over years, when you eventually
cash out, you know what I mean, you make ten
twenty one hundred acts on what your initial investment was
that's what it is. And then there is this other
(34:21):
very basic logical point. Is there any other capitalistic endeavor?
So I'm not talking about social workers, I'm not talking
about kindergarten teachers, I'm not talking about fireman. The capitalistic
endeavor where someone of Caitlin Clark's quality, and I will
(34:48):
use her as an example because she is the most
visible player in the league, is there any other field
in the world where someone of Caitlin Clark's caliber would
make less than eighty thousand dollars a year. Think about it,
(35:11):
just for real, think about it. And the answer is no,
there is not. So it is a little right now
out of whack. It is why Britney Griner a few
years ago was over in Russia playing ball and got
(35:32):
caught up. Because you can make more money overseas, which
is another point. Is there proof of concept that you
can pay women athletes more than the WNBA pays them
and still be a functional business. Yeah, because leagues across
Europe do it. So again, nobody serious is arguing that
(35:57):
the WNBA players and the NBA players should make this
same amount of money. But nobody serious can actually think
that Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and Paige Becker's making
seventy some grand a year is a proper payment for
(36:18):
services rendered. And again just a rule of thumb, if
there is a labor dispute and you don't know much
about it, I'm not saying the workers one hundred percent
of the time in every labor dispute across the border
in the right. I'm not saying that. What I am
(36:39):
saying is, if there is a labor dispute and you
don't know much about the actual details and your gut
reaction is to side with ownership, you're a sucker or
are your sexist? Well, in this instance, there's a lot
(37:00):
of that. In this instance, there is a scheme. Yeah,
that there is. You're being more specific to the w
n B A yeah, And I mean, so, I guys,
this is where And I am not, you know, Adam
(37:21):
Smith in that I am not a true market zealot. However,
there is a beauty to an actual marketplace, which is,
if it's such a bad deal for owners, why is
no one selling their teams?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Like why? Well, by the way, you people who are
like concerned about the long term uh trajectory of the NBA.
If you are. You have a few like ooh, data
points of the MAVs. So the Celtic sold, the Lakers sold,
(38:04):
Like why did those ownership groups get out? Now, the
flip side to that is they sold for these insane
amounts of money. So maybe that's a sign in favor
that it's healthy, but it is. It is just outrageous
the amount of people that were like pipe down ladies
(38:27):
be happy when the truth of the matter is, in America,
celebrity is super valuable and over the last couple of years,
the WNBA players have become celebrities, and Caitlin might have
been the driving force, but she ain't the only celebrity.
(38:50):
Hell the oh my goodness, Sophie Cunningham is a legit star.
Angel Reese is a legit star. Page is a star.
Turns out the stud Buds crew have this huge twitch
or stream following, so oh yeah, absolutely. I was trying
to mention more of like the newer players, but yeh,
(39:12):
Sabrina's been but yet all those folks. Asia Wilson is
a legit star and she's been around for a while. Like,
obviously the money's not right
Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Tua isn't exactly welcoming Tyreek back with open arms. After
Tyreek did that little thing at the end of twenty
twenty four, Terrek took some accountability and saying I need
to be better as a leader. I feel like you
probably should have said as a star player. But with
things already off to a bad start, how do you
see Miami's season going.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I want to believe in Miami a little bit. I
think that they are you know, I like the team
that used to be overvalued that now I think people
have gone too far in the other direction on I
tend to like those teams and my aunt I really
like the Jalen Ramsey, Minka Fitzpatrick trade. I think they
(00:52):
got better there. Tyreek I think will be better this year.
So there, and I think that that last playoff spot
in AFC should be pretty open. So there are some
reasons that I kind of was leaning. You know, maybe
maybe I'll believe in the Dolphins as a playoff team
this year, especially because speaking of the hot seats, I
(01:13):
think you know, Mike McDaniel, the GM, I think they
know we got to start putting some pelts on the wall,
you know what I mean. We got to get back
on the right track. This is where you might think
I'm being unfair. So to his comments yesterday were basically, yeah,
(01:39):
they speaking for me and for the team. He wasn't
speaking for himself. He's like, you know, Tyreek, what Tyreek
did is not something that you just say my bad
about and you know we're all good like you gotta,
you know, work on yourself. You got to earn back trust.
I'm paraphrasing, but he said all this publicly to the media.
(02:02):
So here's where I mean the exact quote is when
you say something like that, you don't just come back
with my bad. You gotta work that relationship up. He's
working on himself. I didn't love that being a public
comment from TUA. So here's what I'll say, And demon's
(02:24):
that you can tell me no, that's why I thought
you were gonna say I'm being unfair, So just hear
me out on this. Okay, what Tyreek did was way
out of line. There is no excusing it. He was
a bad teammate. He was immature. It was you know,
it was bad. He's also Tyreek Kill. He's receiver, he's cut,
(02:52):
he's he's a receiver. He's a kind of known at
times knuck ahead. He he has he he you know,
just this week he was like, you know, I talked
with my dad, and you know, I thought it was
(03:12):
really important that this offseason I just do football and
family stuff. Meanwhile, you know, I'm pretty sure he's in
a legitimate beef with I show speed and like about
the racing and like, so Tyreek is just a superstar
(03:34):
witch dude. Yeah, like a bit of a dufist, a
bit of a dufis and got a lot of stuff. Okay,
he does not excuse what he said, but we're also
I don't think you're not getting in the Tyreek Kill
business for maturity, professionalism, and leadership. You're getting in the
(03:54):
Tyreek Kill business because he's freaking awesome. Right. Two is
your quarterback, and Tua and Tyreek have to work for
the team to work. So I wouldn't care at all
if at the first day of training camp, Tua got
up in front of the team and was like, Tyreek,
(04:16):
you betrayed all of us. You have a lot of
you know, making up to do that was wrong, you know,
rd him the riot Act privately, but publicly, I think
the answer has to be either, Yeah, listen, I think
Tyreek's addressed that. Any feelings I have on that, I'm
(04:38):
gonna keep between me and Tyreek and me and the team.
But you know, we know that he and I got
to get back to what we were two years ago
for this team to have a chance, and I believe
we're gonna do that. You either do that or and
Toua might not be comfortable with this because I know
he's like a deeply religious guy. You just flat lie.
Oh no, Tyreek, Tyreek, We're all good. You know, it
(05:00):
was emotional right after the season. Nobody cared. I think
those are your two best options rather than telling the
media no. Everyone was really bothered by that. And actually
it we're still working on it because then it continues
like I'm going to need an update on that, you
know what I mean. And so again Tyreek put to
(05:24):
A in a terrible position.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And he was throughout that like it seemed like he
he seemed pretty nervous, I don't want to say nervous,
but constantly walking back stuff and like thinking super hard
about the stuff. He was saying, Oh, you're talking about
Tyreek at the end of the year. No, I'm talking
about two in the press. I mean I felt like
he was sweaty.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But yeah, well, I mean he was Miami right off
practice field. But yes, I agree, I agree with you
on that regard. But I also thought Tyreek when he
gave this initial thing right after the playoff falls, didn't
exactly know what he was trying to say, and then
was like, ah, I'm out. I just think that there
is sometimes when you are the face of an organization
(06:09):
and you get put in bad spots by people and publicly,
you got to just present a united front. That's the
you know, that's all that I'm or you can go
Peyton Manning about was it Mike vander jack the kicker?
(06:29):
So this you'll love this, de Monsey because you have
no recollection of this whatsoever. Mike Vanderjat, who's a pretty
good kicker for the Colts and the Aughts, went on
some radio show after another Colt's playoff loss and took
shots at Peyton the kicker, and then yeah, the kicker,
(06:51):
and then Peyton was asked about it at the Pro Bowl,
like during a sideline interview, and Peyton's like, yeah, I mean,
I really didn't expect that I was gonna get asked
about our idiot kicker getting all liquored up and popping
off at the mouth on the radio. I'll deal with
(07:13):
that if he's still a teammate in the future, Like
this guy's gone, this guy's gone, I'm not dealing with him.
I have no interest in him. And so that that's
the other that's the other option. The other option is
if Tua would have been like, yeah, I don't think
(07:35):
it's gonna be a problem because I don't think Tyryk's
gonna be on the team. Like that's the nuclear option.
But so but if he's going to be on the team,
then you gotta you gotta sometimes clean up somebody else's mess.
That's the only even if it's not fair topic.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It sounds like the Chiefs and Tyreek Hill kind of
miss each other.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, I told you I I told you guys a
year ago that I'm very excited for Tyreek Kill wearing
a Chiefs uniform in twenty twenty six, because that's I
think going to happen. It's not gonna happen this year,
but that I think is going to happen, so it
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cant be likely if maybe that's enough to get Kelsey
to come back for one more year. A little final
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Speaker 2 (10:14):
So Sirianni does not want to think of this year
as going for a repeat. Jalen Hurts is also focused
on the present. He won't even wear his super Bowl
and he's saying that moment is behind us.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
On real quick before we get to the other thing.
What's your take on Jalen Hurts not him refusing to
put on the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Right, he sounds like Dan O's or something in that
in that quote. But but yeah, I mean he's put
it on, he's warned.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
He says he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
He's warned. I mean that's definitely he's put the ring off.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He's saying he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Why not it's not I I don't know, I mean,
maybe not wear it out, but like I mean, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Of course, but like put it on once, press little
button so the stupid wings come, like I don't know,
like whatever, all right, keep going.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So he is now in a one sided debate with
Cam Newton. Yeah, what's what's your take on this?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
While Okay, So when I say one sided, I mean
he hasn't chimed in, but ca Cam has. So this
is kind of the back and forth of it and
full disclosure again. I really like Cam. Cam was one
of my me Betting on Cam was pre What's Right Show,
(11:31):
betting on the Jags where I just couldn't every week
I was like, you know what line I like. I
think the Panthers are underrated or undervalued. I also think
Cam had the single greatest college season of all time,
and I think that fifteen and one year in the
pros was one of the greatest individual accomplishments any players
(11:55):
ever had given his supporting cast. So Cam didn't have
Jalen In's top ten quarterbacks, and then people got mad
at them and Cam, you know, it's the old It's
another version of the Charles Barkley or the bus driver
(12:16):
or bus rider discussion is what we're having here. And
I do find these two players like Cam Newton versus
Jalen Hurts debate fascinating just because it really reveals a
lot about what you value, because I don't think there
(12:41):
is definitively demon's a wrong answer, right. But and what
I think is interesting is I am certain to my
core that Jalen Hurts could not have gotten that Panther's
team to fifteen wins in the Super Bowl. I don't
(13:03):
think that's unfair. I don't think that is me taking
a shot. I don't think there's ten quarterbacks twelve quarterbacks
in NFL history that necessarily could have gotten that Panthers
team to have that season. With that said, I also
(13:26):
am not sure that Cam could have had this sustained
success that Jalen has had with the Eagles. And so
obviously these are all hypotheticals.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
The similar players. I mean, I feel like Cam Newton
is a little bit more of a of an athletic
freak than Yes, then Jalen hurts.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah. I mean, he's just so huge and he was
faster now Jalen has. Cam didn't have a lot of
years of high level passing numbers, but neither does Jalen.
It's really interesting. I also think, I mean, again, the
(14:14):
year they went fifteen to one, his receivers were Ted Gin,
Jericho Contree, Devin Functius, and Corey brown An. He won
league MVP, and obviously Greg Olsen was an awesome tight end,
but that you know, it's his receiving core I I
(14:34):
think Cam looks at it as man put me on
that type of team and we're the greatest team ever.
And I understand that line of thinking. Again, Jalen's not
(14:56):
commenting on this, but if I were Jalen, I would
be like, well, I was on that team and we
were pretty good. We won the Super Bowl, in the
NFC Championship Game, like one hundred to forty. We we
won thirteen games in a row to finish the year
if you exclude the game that I got hurt, Like
(15:19):
what what more do you did you want from us?
From a team perspective? And so I understand, now do
I think that there has been a weird media I
don't know if over correction is the right word there.
(15:41):
There has been to me, a there's been some patronizing,
almost as the word I would use in the discussion
of Jalen So like I saw Orlovsky's video about Jalen Hurts.
Now Orlovsky's video, he is not calling Jalen Hurts the
(16:02):
best quarterback in football, to be clear, but his caption
of it. And this isn't like a newspaper where you know,
you don't write your own headlines. He's let me see
if I can find this ad the and and I'm
trying to find Sorry, I just clicked on it. And
(16:22):
do you guys still have my audio? Am I still good?
I just clicked on something? Okay, good? Sorry? Let me
find the exact caption, because it was he wasn't calling
him the best quarterback in football, and but the caption was, really,
don't care where you rank Hurts. He sits at one.
(16:44):
So if somebody was like, wait, are you saying he's
the best quarterback in football? Like that? Again, if you
watch the video, he's not saying that. But there is
to me a there has been an interesting, what's the
(17:06):
right word, an interesting shift in how we have talked
about quarterbacks the last decade or so when it comes
to Jalen specifically, which is usually if people think quarterback's good,
(17:34):
the team is amazing, then we lead with the team
as the driving force. And that's what I think Cam
is getting at. I think with Jalen there, and I
think understandably it's because some of his best games ever
(17:56):
have been these monster Super Bowl performances. There has been
a reclassification of well, maybe Jalen is way better than
his numbers suggest, and he simply is kind of suppressing
(18:17):
his own individual accolades for team success, which I understand
that line of thinking, but it does kind of contradict
his own teammate from the end of last year. It's like, hey,
(18:40):
we got to get better in the passing game, and
it kind of goes against what we saw when the
Eagles were unbelievable in twenty twenty two. They won the
Super Bowl in twenty twenty four, and the one dip
twenty twenty three was a year that they really tried
to open up the passing game more. And so it
this is one of the fun things to me about
(19:04):
kind of sports debate is this isn't really defied, like
it's not provable, at least in the short term. And
here and now, we don't know what Jalen would look
like if he played for the twenty fifteen Panthers, and
we don't know what Cam would look like if he
had played for the twenty twenty four Eagles. I do
(19:26):
think that there is an element of even for a
lot of Jalen's biggest supporters. If you were just asking,
be like, hey, who's the better quarterback, Cam Newton or
Jalen Hurts, I think most people are like, well, Cam Newton,
(19:47):
And if the question is why or what's your evidence,
I honestly think the answer is it's just better. And
sometimes like, I know that can feel like a cop out,
but it does feel real here and where I will
(20:08):
and I know it might sound like I don't know
I should. I don't usually go back and listen to
the pods, but I might go back and listen to
this segment because there's a possibility I'm not making a
lot of sense, but I am.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I uh, I find this time fascinating because it is
to me layered and nuanced, because, like I said, if
you asked me who was better Cam or Jalen, my
snap answer is like, obviously it's Cam.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But the with that said, if you asked me, am
I certain that Cam would be better for this Eagles team,
I don't know that I would say yes. I think
when you have a team as stacked as the current Eagles,
(21:08):
having a quarterback who doesn't seem that focused on his
individual accolades or success could really play in your favor.
And I think Jalen deserves a huge credit for that.
To push man, I sorry, well, I mean I think
(21:28):
that's probably a bad example because Cam Cam was arguably
the greatest short yardage player in NFL history. Now, when
they wouldn't do a toush push, they just did rightular
quarterback power jump over the line or quarterback sneak, you
know what I mean. So it was it was different,
But I I am really interested because one day in
(21:55):
Jalen's career, he's not going you know, you're not gonna
have Saquon Agdavonte. You're not going to have this amazing
supporting cast. And there will be a time where the
Eagles are in a position where it's like, listen, man,
our defense isn't you know what we had hoped. We
(22:16):
don't have this great running game. If we're gonna win,
we're gonna need you to do it. You know, the
old school quarterback style, drop back thirty sometimes and throw
the ball. I think there's real question, like there is
a real question over whether or not he can do that,
and so we This is my ultimate endpoint on this,
(22:39):
and I am definitely at times guilty of this, which
is why probably I'm a little circular in my reasoning here.
We give guys a ton of credit for doing more
with less, the lebron on dragging the seven Calves to
(23:04):
the finals. You know that type of thing like, look
at you, you had so little help, look at what
you did. We don't always do a good enough job
of recognizing just because you can do more with less
doesn't mean you can do the most with a ton
(23:26):
and Jalen has proven he can do the most with
this great situation, and not everybody can do that, and
so and this is something I'd be interested at some
point in talking to Cam about.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, so the ladies of the WNBA All Star Game,
we're protesting with shirts that read pay us what you
owe us. And Kelsey Palm took a little bit of
a shot at Caitlin Clark after and said that zero
members of Team Clark were very president. It's could have
been an inside thing, been a dig. What did you
see here?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Okay, So that the Kelsey Plum thing I think was
totally misconstrued and that's not the real story. But I
want to address it because Ramona Shelburne also I thought,
did a good job addressing it this morning. So Kelsey
Plum is up on the dais with was it Sabrina
who was the other player alongside her? Yeah, okay, so
was Sabrina. Sabrina, by the way, is on Team Clark.
(24:25):
And they talk about the meeting that morning about wearing
the shirts, and Kelsey Plum says like, now, no members
of Team Clark were there, taking poking fun at Sabrina.
And also I think or I thought poking fun at
the fact that they had all been out partying the
night before and that team didn't get up in time.
(24:45):
That was my initial reaction. Ramona Shelburne then reports out
on it today. WNBA players, including Kelsey Plum, had been
discussing the pay us what You os T shirts wrote
over a week. According to multiple sources, they settled on
the idea at breakfast Saturday morning that very few players
on Team Clark attended because of the early start, but
(25:06):
just to make sure, sources said, Brianna Stewart and the
FISA Collier and others went by the Team Clark locker
room before the game to make sure they were on
board with the IDM plan. They were. I thought, Ramona rites,
I thought it was fairly obvious. Kelsey Plum tried to
make a joke that didn't land. The meeting where players
decided to where the shirts at eight thirty am on Saturday.
Understandable that not many from Team Clark made it after
(25:28):
what we saw on stud buds from the night before. Now,
I am not locked in enough on WNBA lore to
know about this stud bud stream prior to WNBA All
Star weekend, it seemed very popular during All Star weekend,
but I was. I am logical enough to know Kelsey
Plum was not in a moment of WNBA player unity
(25:52):
taking a shot at half of the All Stars. But
because Caitlin Clark's name was involved, people took it and
rain with it. That's not the story. The story is
how many people are such utter losers. And here's what
I mean, folks, general rule of thumb blind. If workers
(26:13):
are trying to extract more money from owners and management,
general rule of thumb, you should be on the worker's side. Now.
I know some of you listening are like, well, what
about me? I own a eighteen person habit astery business
(26:34):
and that I'm an owner. Okay, good you, I guess
can be management. But the vast majority of us, and
I say this by the way, as a silent partner
owner of a small business. Uh you know it's very small.
It's my wife's boutique. But like I guess, I technically
(26:56):
have my hand in both pots. Worker and business owner.
Doesn't matter. The people that create the product create the value.
Those people trying to extract more money at the very least,
you shouldn't be rooting against them. And if you are
(27:16):
going to try to be like, well, actually, here's the thing. Actually,
know what the hell you're talking about. So here's the reality.
Does anybody does anybody intelligent actually think that, well, Max's
contract in the NBA. In the NBA is around fifty
(27:37):
million a year, so I guess max contract in the
WNBA should be about fifty million a year. No, nobody's
making that case. Nobody with a platform that matters is
arguing NBA and WNBA players should be paid dollar for
dollar the same, like the purses at Wimbledon can be.
(27:59):
But it makes sense for the purses at Wimbledon to
be the same men's and women's. They get similar TV ratings,
the tickets self for the same they are generating the
same money. The issue that the WNBA players have that
is a fair and correct issue is multifold. And again,
(28:20):
so many losers are just bootlicking management sellouts because they
think one day they might actually be It's the same
folks that are like, well, you know, right now, a
tax policy that helps out the lower class would help me,
(28:43):
but what about when I have fifty million dollars and
I want to pass that down to my kids. It's like, Buddy,
probably not getting there. You probably should worry a little
bit more of the here and the now than the
estate tax. But I digress. What people are arguing is
in the NBA demonse if it's a fifty to fifty
(29:06):
split of back br basketball related income. So if the
league generates ten billion dollars, the players salaries get five billion,
and that's how you pay the players. The owners get
five billion, and that's how they run the league, you
know what I mean, pay all the bills that come
(29:28):
associated with running the league, and they hope there's money
left over. It's fifty to fifty in the NBA. Do
you have a guess what? Again? The size of that
pie doesn't change. The size of the pie can change.
Pardon me, the split does not. It's fifty to fifty
it youse Brew told me the other day. It used
(29:48):
to be sixty three thirty seven in the player's favor,
and the owners have kind of chipped away at it
or whatever. But it's fifty to fifty now, which feels
pretty fair. Okay, Like I'm not gonna act like owners
don't do anything. I'm not gonna act like they're unimportant. Now.
I would always again, yeah, I would always listen I'm
(30:09):
a union guy. I'm a union kid. I my dad
was the president of firefighters union for basically my entire life.
I you know, I am a union guy. My first
term paper I ever wrote my life was about leq
WALSSA and the Polish Solidarity movement. It's colored my politics,
It's colored who I am. It's I think when a
(30:30):
lot of people talk about man, you know, we see
these stupid old tweets. They're like, you know, in the seventies,
you know you people weren't able to the man worked,
the wife stayed at home, you had a car, you
had a house, you sent your kid's school. It is
like what changed? And people, because they're dopes, are like,
what changed is immigrants? When what changed is the union,
(30:52):
jobs and factors and stuff like that. But again, sorry
for being political this morning, but this is kind of
a political thing. So go back to you demand what
do we think? Or what is your guest?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
The WNB? Yeah, the split players.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Owner to player, what do you think the split is as.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Of this moment? I think it's like seventy thirty.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
How about ninety one to nine?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Oh wow, ninety one nine owners.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Ninety one nine owners? Now what folks, reaction is going
to be but the league loses money. But twenty two
two thirds of the league he lost money last year,
got it? Okay? So quick question on that honest question,
because the world has changed in the last two years
in the WNBA, thanks in large part to Kitlin Clark,
(31:45):
not solely to Kaitlin Clark, but she's the driving force
and the success of women's college basketball and the eyes
and the ratings, all of that. Guys, you think right
now WNBA teams are worth more or less than we're
two years ago. You think that if you bought the
WNBA team two years ago and you offered it up
for sale today that you would get more or less money.
(32:07):
Do you think if it's such a bad business that,
oh my god, you can't you can't claw any more
money away from Are there a bunch of w NBA
teams for sale it's like, oh my god, nobody will
buy one? Or are they expanding the league? Is it
a league where more people want to get in? Again?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I don't want to expanding the league? Doesn't it also
make it pretty pretty weird to up it right now?
Wouldn't it make sense? For like, once the all the
teams are there, because then there's gonna be some other
split taken away from the teams when those two teams
do get there, is that now or.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
No I split because like in the NBA, they're gonna
get split. Right, You're bringing in more money, there's expansion
fees all that, and I don't I'm not going to
I have to be careful on what I say here,
but I actually have a little bit of insight into
(33:06):
what what it costs for a new WNBA team because
Kansas City is trying to get one, and I have
had very casual conversations about being a very very small
(33:30):
part of an investment group. And I gotta tell you.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
It ain't cheap.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Right now, people think WNBA is on the uptick. They
think it's a growth industry, so because it is, and
so this idea that the players should just be satisfied,
and this idea that the poor WNBA owners like uh
(33:59):
think about the owners that are losing money, when with
most pro sports, the real profit is in the appreciation
of the team that in over years, when you eventually
cash out, you know what I mean, you make ten
twenty one hundred acts on what your initial investment was
that's what it is. And then there is this other
(34:21):
very basic logical point. Is there any other capitalistic endeavor?
So I'm not talking about social workers, I'm not talking
about kindergarten teachers, I'm not talking about fireman. The capitalistic
endeavor where someone of Caitlin Clark's quality, and I will
(34:48):
use her as an example because she is the most
visible player in the league, is there any other field
in the world where someone of Caitlin Clark's caliber would
make less than eighty thousand dollars a year. Think about it,
(35:11):
just for real, think about it. And the answer is no,
there is not. So it is a little right now
out of whack. It is why Britney Griner a few
years ago was over in Russia playing ball and got
(35:32):
caught up. Because you can make more money overseas, which
is another point. Is there proof of concept that you
can pay women athletes more than the WNBA pays them
and still be a functional business. Yeah, because leagues across
Europe do it. So again, nobody serious is arguing that
(35:57):
the WNBA players and the NBA players should make this
same amount of money. But nobody serious can actually think
that Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and Paige Becker's making
seventy some grand a year is a proper payment for
(36:18):
services rendered. And again just a rule of thumb, if
there is a labor dispute and you don't know much
about it, I'm not saying the workers one hundred percent
of the time in every labor dispute across the border
in the right. I'm not saying that. What I am
(36:39):
saying is, if there is a labor dispute and you
don't know much about the actual details and your gut
reaction is to side with ownership, you're a sucker or
are your sexist? Well, in this instance, there's a lot
(37:00):
of that. In this instance, there is a scheme. Yeah,
that there is. You're being more specific to the w
n B A yeah, And I mean, so, I guys,
this is where And I am not, you know, Adam
(37:21):
Smith in that I am not a true market zealot. However,
there is a beauty to an actual marketplace, which is,
if it's such a bad deal for owners, why is
no one selling their teams?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Like why? Well, by the way, you people who are
like concerned about the long term uh trajectory of the NBA.
If you are. You have a few like ooh, data
points of the MAVs. So the Celtic sold, the Lakers sold,
(38:04):
Like why did those ownership groups get out? Now, the
flip side to that is they sold for these insane
amounts of money. So maybe that's a sign in favor
that it's healthy, but it is. It is just outrageous
the amount of people that were like pipe down ladies
(38:27):
be happy when the truth of the matter is, in America,
celebrity is super valuable and over the last couple of years,
the WNBA players have become celebrities, and Caitlin might have
been the driving force, but she ain't the only celebrity.
(38:50):
Hell the oh my goodness, Sophie Cunningham is a legit star.
Angel Reese is a legit star. Page is a star.
Turns out the stud Buds crew have this huge twitch
or stream following, so oh yeah, absolutely. I was trying
to mention more of like the newer players, but yeh,
(39:12):
Sabrina's been but yet all those folks. Asia Wilson is
a legit star and she's been around for a while. Like,
obviously the money's not right
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