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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No question is what exactly are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Fake hold? Because you like, do we need to hold? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What up?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
The artist is Joe Crack your boy Jada. You know
what it is, the Joe and Jada's Show. And without
further ado, ladies and gentlemen, you like to welcome my
beautiful guest, Tianna Taylor.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Make some noise what's going on? But I'm just so
happy you here. Man. You know, uh, my family we
celebrate you and so like you're one of the favorite artists,
my wife's favorite artists. My daughter, she's big everywhere but
(01:00):
in my household. So I know all that I was
dizzy to. I made it. I made it like they was.
They had that all super repeat on when it came out.
So it's honor to have you here. They told me
not to talk much, but I gotta set it off.
(01:22):
I'm gonna be honest with you. I know, Tianna. It's crazy.
I'm looking at your daughter right now and I think
I met you about that age, about that age, and
I'm in Harlem coaching at the Rucker and you pull
up in that famous that world famous biker yours and
the reason why there's such a you and that.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
The first time I haven't met it is that bike.
She was on the bike to That's Crazy around the
same time. I don't know if it's the same, but
when I ever first seen it, she was on the bike,
I'm like, who's that?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Like, no, let's tea. You know what's crazy is I
meet so many people, right, I've been doing this thirty
some years, and I met so many people who told me, Joe,
I'm gonna be rich, I'm gonna be a billionaire. Even
Angie Martinez laughs at me because she said the first
time I met her, I was like, yo, I'm gonna
be the biggest fact and she was like yeah right.
(02:20):
And so you out of nowhere, you pull up on
me and you like, yo, I needed meet for real,
Like you got to introduce me to forrel I'm gonna
be a s next artist, And I'm like, yo, this
girl she flies. She little, what I mean, she got
big dreams And to see everything you ever predicted at
that age to come to fluition. How did you know
(02:43):
because you had to know when you was young, Like
did you how did you know that? You say, Yo,
I'm special. God made me special because for real, though
you have to have a certain type of blessing and
and confidence to just predict all that in the few
uture and it actually become true.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I mean, first and foremost, I got a lot of
prayer warriors. That's first, I feel like I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Covered, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
But secondly, I think it's just some cocky hallm shit,
Like that's just hall OFM shit. In general, we understand
aesthetics and vibes and what things are supposed to look like.
But I've always been very intentional, even at a young age.
So it's kind of crazy to see JUNI now speak
the same way, you know, but it's kind of like
seeing you like that was a big thing for me.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'm like, yo, what's up?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I know you in there hotel forrella, No da.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
What we do it?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And then she got with for real?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That's crazy. Yeah, it's safe to say she she's good
at everything. I'm a manifest anything she puts her in
doing this.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We call you a triple threat because there's nothing you
can't do. And was that of a complication for you know,
A and R somebody to see your vision because you
do so many things? Was it hard to get the
team that just get aligne with like all right, I
want to choreograph this. I want to I want to sing,
(04:08):
I want to shoot at I wanted to, Like, youre
just like, yo, what the fuck? Like? Everybody ain't built
like that? Did you ever ask?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I mean, it was, it was a lot, and it
was it was very difficult.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And the way you're breaking it down actually make me
like I want to like empathize with them for them
a little bit, because no, real shit, because I never
you be like, they don't know what to do with you?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
What the fuck does they don't know what.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
To do with me? I'm not trying to hear all that.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Like you like, if I'm giving you everything, you're you're
avoiding all the things you would pay for normal for
the next artist.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So I used to think it was easier having an
artist that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I used to walk into the label with the old
school move board like cut out pictures and like glued
to a cardboard box, like I had the vision.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So it's like, if everything is literally laid in your.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Lap, how are you saying you? Yeah, how you saying
you don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
What to do?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
But to your point, if it's like a robotic system
and they're stagnant and their comfort their comfort is here's
the standard. We do this with all our artists. So
because we do this with all our artists, then no
other way is the right way.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I dealt with it for a long time until I
took that step back because I do do everything. So
it's kind of like again when I seen you, and
when I took a step back from music, I went
and I manifested the same thing because I was definitely
shoved in the corner on So I'm like, yo, if.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You if you retire, you boom boom. I don't think
that's smart. This is I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's not like I'm going to be a big director.
Everybody's in the court and I'm gonna be a go
to director, going to be a big actress. I'm gonna
protect other creatives. I'm going to pour into other creators.
Everything I said I.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Was going to do, I did that, did that, did
that and did it superbly.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's not feeded that.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But that's all a part of that faithful you know
what I'm saying. Like you know, I go to the
you know with God, Yo, were betting on to day
we betting on to day.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Both of y'all were God us.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well not literally, but I'm just saying, is like when
people take bets elsewhere, people take gambles elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
My gamble is like, Father, God, will we doing? What's
my purpose? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
When I'm ready to give up, Like why you keep
pushing me while you keep pushing me back in? What's
my purpose? You know what I'm saying, Like I want
to do everything. I don't want to be in a box. Okay,
if don't want to be in a box, and show
me you don't want to be in a box.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Keep praying, Keep having conversations. You got to communicate. You
got to over communicate, over communicate. So like with over communicating,
then he's more clear on what I wanted. He can
leave me in that direction because he's gonna gow it
in my lap, you know what I'm saying. So I've
always took my gamble, you know, within my favor.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It's weird terms and you over communicate, you can overstead.
I understand that. And it's weird times out there right
in the world. You know, hard to get a job.
People on tough times. This thing has made it so
everybody and their mother can say something about somebody. And
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so this price of fame, right, it's on another level
to where, uh, I think the only thing that can
keep you normal right now is your belief in God.
And so when I sit down, you know, I tell them,
you know, my my wife, she best friends with mary Ja.
I said, with all the jones, Christy Hallom, I'm always
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surrounded by all the right And then the conversation always
turned into God. I don't know how it just if
you just start talking about everything everybody like yo, but
thank God for God, and I pay my tides and
because I feel like it's the only salvation, is the
only way do with all this noise that's going on
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around us. You know this this you know you gotta
be careful what you what you wish for with this
fame and fortune. You know now, I know what, I
know what. I love my life. But you know, I
think I would have rather been wealthy more than wealthy
and famous. Right Like, when I see people far, I
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rather wish I could just be wealthy. And but nobody
can know you, I mean, but I meet wealthy people
and they want to be lit like they want to
hang out with the famous people they want. People think
they want to be lit.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
No, that's that's that's real.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
There's a lot of people think they know what they
want until they get it, you know what I'm saying.
But I think for me, it's super important that even
through my accolades, that like every single one of my speeches,
that then they always go in my speech, all my
speech is.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Always a prayer.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I think it's important because I think a lot of
times we turn to God when when things ain't.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Right else wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, different have them conversations through good batter in different
you know, submit and pray and understand that we're not perfect.
It's still a working progress. None of us haven't be
perfect enough, you know what I'm saying. So it's just
like you gotta pray through it all, you know, and
give things.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I think it's important, gotta give things.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
That has been five years since the album what pulled
You Back? What made You say?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Is time.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I got pulled back on my own terms. You know
what I'm saying, Like I left the first time because
it wasn't on my terms. You know what I'm saying,
And I knew that I was more. I was more
than what was being you know.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Put in a box for me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
They were trying to stuff everything in one box. And
that's just not that was never me. I can't stay still,
you know what I'm saying. Like me always considered myself
a glade plugging. I'm'a plug in every single socket outlet
you see in this building. Why only make the bathroom
smell good? You can make it every Yeah, like smelling
foods of your label. Like, I'm not about to be
(10:05):
locked in one room. I'm not gonna be locked in
one box. I'm not gonna be locked with one set
of keys the one door.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Shout out to your mother. Your mother's in the building. Yeah,
HALLM legend. And you know, I just feel like you
me Jim Jones. Not to alienate nobody, but New York
made some hustles, say Lola lolah. And that's an MTV
job to being an actress, to be into this, to
be in that. You know, what is it in you
(10:33):
that make you that hustler debt? Because well, I'm a
fake HALLM guy from the box, right, but I got
the hustle too.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I'll say that's New York thing. I think that's a
New York it's a New York thing. But also it's like,
you know, my mom hustler, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
And also what would help keep me grounded is actually
use and use and the gyms and like to see
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y'all be successful and still be on a block. You
feel what I'm saying, Like that's big for me. The
first time I met Jada, I was mad young, and
I asked for and that Negroes something script and for
the life of me, I was trying to figure out
what he wrote.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And at first it was me and my hunt.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I was like he was saying so you know, I
was like trying to figure out what he was saying.
But it was the fact that he like took out
the time to write the autograph and I probably wasn't
my bike on my skateboard or something, but it was
just like, Yo, this shit is is dope.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So now do I have the hustle? But I got
the ground.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I'm grounded because people that I look up to that's
paving a way for me is really outside, you know,
grounded but successful and still graceful.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And you know, like just the balance of it. I
just think that's a New York thing.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I love that Roses describing all your emotions been.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Better Roses for me, Well, you got to kind of
hear the album. Once you hear the album, it's like
a it's a whole story. It's an arm break album.
So it's like the different emotions from heartbreak to healing,
you know what I'm saying. On from like dark clouds
to you know, sunny sky. So it's kind of like
all the all the moments of vulnerability and grief and
different things like that, but most importantly resetting, realigning and
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resenting yourself without armor, you know. And that's what Better
Roses is for me, Like I feel like even through
everything I've been through, I still got so much love
to give, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not
a guarded person.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't walk around with bricks ready to build a wall.
It's just not who I am.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So you don't base a new relationship based on past relationship.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I mean, always move a caution exactly, But to be
to be guarded, that's how you block your blessings, you
know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I don't. And I've
never moved like that, you know what I'm saying. And
that's what better roses represent. I wanted to do something for,
you know, just the lover. People love it, girls love
it boys, because I think right now, music is so
toxic and so prideful and very very egocentric, you know,
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and it's just not who I am. And I wanted
to create a lane to create healthy dialogue, healthy conversations
with them music.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
You know this whole time I'm looking at you, the
petty Joe is just like, Yo, what's up with the
cute boyfriend a brother? Peddy Joe. Man, I'm sitting there
the other day I'm gonna tell you and shout out
to the brother right But the other day I'm sitting
on the couch trying to look at something and Netflix
(13:42):
and I see it's fit and I'm like, yo, you
know that that's Tianna's man right there. You know what
I'm saying. We watched the movie and shit, and.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yes I watched it.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I skipped it a bunch of times, but once, Tuanna,
you know, I'm keeping it a buck which I can't buy.
Your got the clamps on me, y'all don't want me
to go you do it. I don't want me to
do it so well to Okay, I'm gonna calm down again.
But you watched it, hell yeah, cause I mean he
was a great actor. But what about the pretty boy?
I mean, I'm not like this guy Dad tell us
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about him. Man, Well, what's the question you said? What
about the pretty boy? What's the question? So rough to
you from harlling you from this? And this guy is like,
you know, a model or something like. But anyway, you
don't think she fit. You don't think I figure for
more of a like a.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, this this is what I think it is.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
What I think it is is like y'all watch me
grow up, you know what I'm saying. Like coming home
has been funny as hell because every single interview I've
been doing has been all like my big brothers. So
it's been a lot of tough love and a lot
of of like you know, y'all knowing me from being
little tea, you know what I'm saying. But I'm a woman,
you know, and I am a mother, and you know,
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people people grow and people change, and I feel like
you know, young when you're young, yeah, you just you
you high you heavy, you, you just your the personality
is big.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But when that carry on into.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Adulthood, majority of it is surviva mole, you know what
I'm saying. And when you find a place that is
so gentle and so delicate and so kind, it will
it could so if anything, it's like boiling noodles, you
know you're gonna go in there.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Was it was it like this the guy for me?
Or was it like hard work? Was it like? What?
Did you see him? And you was like, yo, this
this because you know, you come off of such a
big publicized relationship. Is it scared for a girl to
take a chance with the next guys? Say? Yo, all right,
(16:01):
this is the guy? Because I mean, you're beautiful, on
top of the world, you got money, you got whatever.
I'm sure everybody and their mother was coming at you.
How did this guy get your attention?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I mean, I am really big on feeling, and I
always tell people like, it's okay to feel, allow yourself
to feel whatever you feel, follow that, you know, And
it wasn't something I don't go looking for anything. I
didn't go looking for anything, and needed did he You know,
we were friends and it you know where it went?
(16:31):
Where it went, And I think the biggest thing is
is the friendship, you know what I'm saying, In.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
The safe space. We created a safe space, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And that's why I think now in days when people
putting titles and labels on everything, it's just kind of like,
create that safe space, create a friendship, you know what
I'm saying, Like, it's sweet and it's gentle, and I
deserve that.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
That was perfect.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
End, It was a perfect How has your experience in
film and television influenced your creativity on making music now
or does it? Does it even contrast or it shit
a little? Because yeah, around you've been doing you doing shit.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, Like I've always been a character. So like even
when I was into music and doing videos, I was like,
I'm ready to do more. I started my own production
company or female production company. My partner Coco called it
Auntie's Production, so we always like even we were doing
my videos independently.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah, on places from by. When I saw it, I
knew it was that was just a typical.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I was just ready.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I was I was always ahead of my time. I
was just like I'm ready for something else. Like even
when I started doing videos, for everybody. I'm like, all,
I'm ready to move into television and film. I knew
that's what I wanted to do. So by the time I,
you know, took a step back from music, I was
just like, I'm ready to do movies. I want to
do this, I want to do that things I was
already doing. But you know, you alrea'ty know how it
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is when you're prepared for album, everything about the album
and everything else is put to the back burning and
I'm like, yo, if y'all can't balance this, then I'm
too much.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
This don't even make sense to do this.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So they came, they came correct, and I got everything
that that I wanted.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
You as a good ass action store. You went to
acting school. You took no lessons just from Hallow or
now you you're a different kind of a different human being.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Though we acting in the boat, Dave, we acted everywhere,
bro like no, but she's really good on on screen
like the movie the movie you had the hard time
and and that I think that's showing. That shows your skills.
And now you with Leonardo the ship, that's the ship. Though,
like you've done elevated to enough. You know a lot
of people are talented. You know. Sometimes I go to
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karaoke and some girl go up there and sing her
ass off. But I'm like, damn, why this girl never
became a star? You know, it was such a blessing
from you as you said, I'm acting, and you went
from let's say that movie wasn't a lot of money, right,
but it showed your skill. Now you're Exactlyrio. Yeah, that's great,
that's real shit. I mean, you got to work your area.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I think people want what they want so fast without
doing the work. They want the glory. They don't want
to do the stuff that is creating the story for
the glory. You feel what I'm saying, Like, I want
to do the work. I'm a student. I'm never above learning,
you feel me. So it's just like I'm a student
even when i'm teaching, you know. So it's just like
that's my mindset and understanding. And I think that's probably
at New York shit too, Like, yo, nam do this,
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my nigga, See what's going on?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Get you get where I want to be.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Then start calling some shots and you know, making some
noiseble boom boom, But you gotta gotta do that first
before you can do this.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
You just got to know how to work your area.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Man, it's a great sill blessing at fifteen. Yeah, the
sweet tender age of fifteen. You coreograph Beyonce is ringing
along VI? What was that? How did that?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's crazy? How did that?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Want to know?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It was crazy? Another stamp to New York. She wanted
to learn the chicken noodle soup?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Why?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
And this is you know, this is when I was
rolling around with the big hair, the fitted cap. You
already know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
So so they called me because I was outside battle
on everybody, like it was up for everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So it's like they called me to come and do it,
but you already know the haller me like I'm about
to throw a wow of this ship in there.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Like it was like, yo, she had one job. She
just wanted to learn the chicken noodle soup.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And I went in there and I was ready, Like
I wasn't Like, I was like everybody, I'm ready to work.
Let's go with a woman she just started dying labn
She's like, oh yeah, she's a star, like I was.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I was ready.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
We were shaking the soup and some more shit like
I was throwing it mad at this ship, like maybe this,
maybe this, And she called me back for another performance
that she had and you know, let me, you know,
help work on that, and.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You know, it's just was amazing.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
But I'm also a sponge I'm SpongeBob square fucking pants,
Like I'm a soak in everything.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I'm gonna take learning so to be able to, you know,
work with her.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
And it's like at that age, I'm taking in everything.
Following me is like understand aesthetics. And I was already
fifteen walking by dance groups like nah, this needs to
be like this, yeah, because if.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You look from here, it's not right.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It ain't. I ain't rolling you, hear me?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Like I was.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I was bossy, but it was always for the best.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
You know, your hood, right, you know, I don't know
if you know. I started at one hundred and thirty
second in Park Avenue where yes, ma'am right by way,
the pimps in the holes used to be, and the
free cheese was out there underneath the train. My mad
chubby love. He passed away, My mad chubby love. Ak
(21:41):
jard X trying to his sister's trying to get the
block named after them. So you know the term where
that where the basketball courts in a handball court where
it used to see crack is whack. He used to
be out there. So one day he pulls up, he's
in a four tourists and he gets out the car.
This guy's like six hundred pounds. You have had to
see when you was a kid. He was this big
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and he got out Louis Vatan from the floor and
I said, oh shit, what Scott, cause this guy five
six hundred pounds, what the fuck he was? He was
like yo, this dapper Dan. He was like yo. I
was like what. He took me to Dap of Dad
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when I was fourteen. I got my first dap of
Dad because girard X I never seen no shit like that.
He get out the car, the car go up, he
goes and the motherfucker Louis v turned all the way up.
And that guy took me to dap Girardas And so
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when I realized you're from that same hood right there, Uh,
very important. Growing up so hard though, right like growing
up in that area, because you know, you go to
that school across you went to that school right there?
What's cool school right around the current? What's that school
right there? Ain't got fuck. I was a minutes in
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piece got like metal detectives and ship tsa in that school.
My man's wife was the principal. She got me go
talk to the kids. I've never seen no ship like that.
They have the metal detectives with the cop in the front.
They still got pimps and ship and know all that
over there. But growing up so tough, right, to be
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so polished and and to get to where you're going
and where you're at. Now, what does that feel like
when you come back to the city. I seen you
with bevy Ye. I love that, Yo. You know what
time it is with Bev and all that y'all. I've
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seen you with Zav. I was like, you know, and
it is true. It is like kind of like a homecoming.
It is you're doing your aunt, your auntie and uncle ship. Yeah,
no real ship.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's why I'm like, Yo, it's a lot of It's like,
fucking y'all up to see me be a little lady.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
She's grown, you know. Yeah, I know I've seen it
in that Kanye video. I was like, what the fuck
going on like that was the time, right, that was
when she became a woman. Right when we seen that video,
I was like, holy ship. I was at the wards
when they played that ship, you know, that was that
was I was in there watching. I said, what the fuck,
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I'm saying, Yo, this ship crazy and and yeah, I
seen you in the club one time too, doing some
astronomical ship. It was in Miami and it was like
a pole, like a light in the way you not
a stripper pole, a pole. And the way you was
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dancing on this fucking pole, I thought like, Yo, she's
ailing in or something. I said, Yo, she had of
control with the ship by yeah. I was like, Yo,
what the fuck? And you doing like he be doing
the pull ups? You doing all that ship on that
oh yeah, And I'd be like, that's that hall.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
We used to be on the on the scaffoles doing that.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
When I'm in battle Mold like, especially in the years,
like I don't like feeling like people playing with me
a little bit, and I feel like people would come
around like my table and try and like start dancing.
I gotta let you know, because you can't do no
pull ups. You from the years you can't do no.
H we got scaffoles on the block everywhere we go.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Now, I've seen that ship one time. I was like, yo,
this girl crazy, like this ship out of control. Like
I said, you're a triple through that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Like I had every stage like in my life, like
Miami was like my young twenties, but like as a
mom and like just super grown, like I'm so.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Chill.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I'll be chilling as a mom, but I'm still ready
to battle whatever because I'll be feeling like people be
trying me but.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I can't even go.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I've been to a strip club where the girls didn't
even want to dance around me. Yeah, but it was
the sweetest because it wasn't like a battle thing like
in the club is when people trying try it. But
it got to a place where like it went from
people in the battle to now people don't even want
to like dancing for me.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
The girls like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
God, go you be dancing down. I feel crazy. I'm like, girl,
this is this is job, not even bro.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You're killing it.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
You feel me because y'all be doing ship that. I'm like, bitch,
yes get it, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like I don't want people to see me and be intimidated.
You know what I'm saying, Like y'all are beautiful, y'all
killing it, and they just be like start poplogging this.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Y'all was like bab a lot pop idn't always heal that,
you know, you you with you at your videos where
they they did, so they come to be in your
video and then they nobody want to see that ship,
right They come up in there and start popping like
you were like, yo, my man. We looking for the
like a vibe like they know when they start doing
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the other dance you like, yo my man, like you
know we this ain't that type of party right here.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
The one time I've seen some ship like that was
we was at the ruck and we brought Ai and
they didn't want to check him. He's the only player
NBA player I ever seen at the Rutger that they
would not deal him up. They didn't want to d
up Ai.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Like.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
He came out there and nobody wanted to deal him up.
They was playing him for far like almost like the
strippers don't want to dance around you where ay I
came out there started going like they was like nobody
wanted to be embarrassed on camera or nothing like that.
He was just hop into the rim. Nobody played defense
on them. I've seen that ship before.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Escape Room is an album in a short film, Walker's
Through the Process, Walkers Through.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I mean you told us we got to hear everything.
You gotta hear.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
It's like going to the movies and happen to P.
You know, you lead the P you might miss you
feel me like we won't be able.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
To pause to Joe and Jakes. You got sometimes you
gotta pause. You know, you gotta keep drinking that water.
That ship run through the system. Man, you know what
water is good for you some reason. I ain't pee
as much with dia PEPSI. Man, now I'm drinking the
whole bitch of water. I'm in the fucking bathroom wall day,
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filter in your filter waterworks. Nah.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
But like real shit, it's like it's an experience and
it's like it's one thing leads into another versus like Okay,
then listen to a few.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Songs and then I'm gonna go connect it.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, Like when people listen, it's like an audio movie,
like even without the movie attached, Like listening to the album,
it's like an audio movie. So it's one of them
things where it's like I want people to receive it
and really listen to it. When it got some real times,
don't rush into my you joy.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Riding the work like.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You feel me And like I said, it will create
a lot of healthy dialogue. I think I think it's important,
you know, to create those safe spaces and have an
album that's not a whole bunch of pointing of the
fingers and you know, different things like that. So the
process is dope. And then once you see the movie
with it, it's just like, oh, yeah, this is insane.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I got a personal question, right, Uh the first album
produced by the Icon yay easy? Right? What was that
process like working with this man? Because I want it
there to make a song? You want a song, I
brought a whole other song.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
On that song.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
It's like, listen me eighty seven the song is it?
I had a song it's called Pride and Joey I
did with with Kanye, but he went it called Kiss
Bust the dish. The point is, you know what's crazy?
Then had me later hook for Pride and Joy.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, I told you now, that's eighty five more eighty
six to that Yo, the craziest.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I like that song. Yeah, but I want to be
doing that song. Listen. I do the another round with
with Chris Brown. The ship is out of control, popping.
You know this game. You need to be on a
roll sometimes. You know. When I was young, I was
just say what you want. I was just throwing our
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hits so much. I gave Jo Ruhl New York. I
was just I felt like it was hit Mainia, Like
there's no way I could stop. Everything I did was
a hit number one. Then you get to that motherfucking
gray every I'm like, no, I'm telling you, I'm pulling
them out. Just everything up out. I know what's gone,
it's gone. I'm putting our hits. Then you get to
(31:04):
that little stumble were you try and catch that ship again.
That ain't easy. Fact. I go in the studio with
Chris Brown. We got another one, right, so now I
make right, so we make another one after that. I
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swear to god, it was a smash ship and Kanye Yo,
let me work on that record. He changed the whole
fucking record. He made it like everybody. We had another one.
I had another one coming right after the Chris Brown
ship like another one, like I had one, and he
switched the whole ship up. So I know, the one
(31:54):
time I work with him, I know what he did
to meat. What was that process like working with him
on the whole album even though the project was came
out incredible.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Definitely feel like, you know, KTSC was like some of
his best work and he's amazing, but like what he
did was gonna love me, and it was like that
Nigga was in a whole nother duffel, you know what
I'm saying, Like what he did and that's why I say,
like some of his best work, that shit is just
like incredible, you know. And I think because it was
(32:24):
that incredible that I think it became the both of
ours versus.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
A my thing, you know, like a me thing.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I think he was, you know, and as a creative
even now looking at it, like being as I do
everything for everybody, like this was a passion project for him.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I think he was very very very very proud of it.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And I think that in that moment of being so proud,
it's like he was living in that moment and I
don't think he thought about everything else that was also
a part of that moment. You feel what I'm saying,
because if it was up to me, like dropping that
shit right after fade would have been insane, you feel
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
But I definitely think that it was a This project.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Was his baby, and he treated it as such, you
know what I'm saying. And I think both of us
like he was like, yeah, cause you're going baby yao me.
So I think both of us being like the super
creatives that we are. I think that like in that
in that moment, from one creative to another creative, like
we both it's like, Okay, I get that, you grab up.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
This is a problem moment for me to But it
was just a lot.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Of that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
But I think it's an amazing project and I think
it's a life changer, And it's just like that was
that was the time to be alive.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You just had to just had to be there, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
And now even today, like I cut so much more crazy,
Like I give so much more grace because it's just
like people go through stuff, you know what I'm saying.
And I think all he ever wanted to do was create,
you know, and I know that feeling of just wanting
to create, and I think those seven albums allowed him
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to just create without any of the extra shit.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
So at that point, it was block everybody out and
he showed up for hisself, and I think that's amazing,
you know what I'm saying. I think we always talk
about who's being selfish or whatever, but it's like, you
know what, show for yourself because it all still helped
us in a way, you know what I'm saying. I
would have preferred it to move differently and to roll
out to be handled differently because I am the baby
and I am the girl. So it's just like, you know,
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out of everybody, I've been waiting the longest, you know
what I'm saying, Like everybody else here is consistent with
their music. I don't have consistent music. So I needed
you to pour into like continue on the passion of it.
He was passionate, like knowing you killed these fucking beasts.
Now'll be passionate about this roll out and understand that
you know we're in this together.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I got a ticket, slights, you're on some bullshit with
the Green Watch with the Green Louis with the acted
what type of smoke you can't when you wanted all
the sooke today? Like what the fuck? I'm looking at
the Green Watch with the Louise like you acting up
out here? Man, that's how you feel. That's how you feel,
(35:22):
according to a guess, Yeah, that's right. She throw that ship.
You know it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
That's actually a complet I noticed that when I go
places like people really be throwing on their Sunday's best.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I'm coming to that's a good.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I love that, I really love that.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I don't really get to get my elaborated on these stinkers, right,
Jordan's they love you because the type of quality they
gave you game on the ship let kind of fucking
trees and ship and and yo, this ship is this
shoe to me when it came out was the shoe
(36:06):
of the year to me. Okay, I'm sure there's other
shoes that came out that was fly, but to me,
I do the sneaking ship for real, and I know
the quality. I know how they let you get away
with you know, when Jordan, don't let you put your
name on the ship all this, the box that came in.
I think I got stiffed. I think they gave me
(36:28):
a whack box. I think you had some special boxes.
What special body with you had they had a special box.
You got a concrete box, regular red here. I didn't
get the premiere. I didn't. They gave it to me regular.
Like I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
It's just like gave you a bear like sneakers in
a red box.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
They fucked me. I swear even show a kind of box.
They came in the fly. I was calling the tea,
the cursing out everybody. I was like, Yo, we're the
fucking box, We're the box box.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I gotta get you a special box you put my
sneakers don't come in a special box. I gotta get
you a box to put in the store. They shot
my ship in the fucking oh what's the joint? The
Benning spot and all that we shot.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
My photo show was shoot was on top of the
projects in the wad Kuci free though with me and
Ren me in there like this like that was our rollout.
Was like you got a special box or type. I
got the regular ship. They was like, nah, you represent
you know the.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Average Nah, but you know what I did though, it's
like again, but nah, that's that.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
That's also the hustle and the festive.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I went into my commercial budget I took.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I was taking money from different places and saying, Yo,
this is what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I need to make sure that the people you know
that I fuck with heavy received these sneakers in a
special way.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I ain't gonn front the sneaker with sod out before
we even dropped commercial, so low key, I could have
made more than even more of our boxes.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I went to give you my sneaker, and it was
so much marijuana that got you high in there that
that night. Who was it little Baby's party or something.
It was like three in the morning, to give you
the sneaker and give him the sneaker, the TS sneaker.
It was. I was high, yeah, and I the way
to fake second hand smoke. Them motherfuckers were smoking so
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much ship that night.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I'm of a certain that show was that showing our hate.
I was in there dying. But that was the tour
I created.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
In the morning, brom that ship was like dumb, dumb, dumb,
like they were smoking so much shit. I was dizzy.
She was like, Joe, I know you got my ship.
I couldn't wait for that dude to walk in that
door to give him that sneaking so bad. I was like, Yo,
Lettle baby, shut you go, you got it. Take the pic.
That ship was crazy. But you know we grind different
(38:45):
with Cads Jada Man say anything.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I'm just enjoying the conversations the Aunties were done.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I ain't bring up the fact that I got a
song in the video with both of y'all.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
We hear the talk about you.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I'm a part of that.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
That's a part of my journey talking about you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's why you say, yo, t how I feel that? Yeah?
How does it feel to have a song in the
video with us? To yo?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Where's the camera?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Like some of the best moments of my life. I
need you all to understand, like this little girl from Harlem,
having the opportunity to work with both of y'all is
amazing And I don't ever want you to get lost
on that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel
like people see where my career is going and you know,
feel feel like the other shit don't matter. So again
(39:37):
I say, it's all about where I started, and people
was always believing me. We got a few records together,
you know what I'm saying, And you know I you
know and feel with the most now we really do,
you know. And that's one thing I can always say,
Like I call Jay and it's like whatever, and it's
quick too.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
It's like, that's the kind of shit that means the
world to me. You know what I saying?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Wait all the time? Are you making? Wait? You y'all'll
be having me.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I'll be getting my ship.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I'm shopping. What am I ship? They go often? What
am I shop? Me?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
What am I?
Speaker 6 (40:14):
What?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Am I chopped?
Speaker 7 (40:15):
Me? Heah?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
What was what? What I do? Jady kiss verse out here?
Gun start telling me? You know, people give me watches
for vers. That's my at that's my own artist. They
gotta do that. They get a verse out of me, Yo,
that's ship crazy.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Well listen, I'm just happy to be a part, you
know what I'm saying. And I feel blessed to have
both of y'all in my life and have been able
to work with y'all and I just really want to
give all yall flowers. The podcast is fucking fire. I
could not go into this surgery without coming home and
seeing y'all like this ship.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Let's backtrack here. We talked off the end.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
It's a bittersweet moment, but we we walk with the
faith with God.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I sister has to have vocal surgery.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Tell them a little bit before, you know what I mean,
you know, elaborate a little yeah, we're saying per with.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
No real talk.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
We gotta say, prier, I'm good, you know, I think
you know, I've there's been a lot of years of
singing and then you know, and acting and just a
lot of trauma to the to the vocal cord.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
You know what I'm saying, a.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Lot of a lot of stress to the vocal cord.
And I think it's just time to fix it. And
sometimes we just trying keep going and keep going and
keep going, keep going into like our bodies, like all right, now,
you know what I'm saying, like exactly, and I think
it's something that I want to handle now so I
am able to go on tour and I may not
be able to talk when this album drop, but to
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be able to go on tour and even have a
bigger moment with that and what my supporters and give
them a real.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Show is It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
But you know, I love to be transparent with my people,
and you know, I just wanted to share it because
I will be like I won't have to really sit
sit back and you know, take that step back and
handle that. And a good thing is treatable. And I
caught it in just enough time because it could have
got it could it could get worse. You know what
I'm saying about, don't handle it. So I'll be doing that.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
So it's got to be quiet for like two weeks straight.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's crazy, man, that's crazy. Are you the animated one
in the crew? I am the animated I wouldn't wanted
to talk the most ship, you know what I'm saying
that that's me.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I'm like super animated.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm not even a text.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I gotta FaceTime for every little thing, Like I have
to like talk and I'm passionate and that's what the
New York Ship can and I'm at a house soft.
I get we having like a little like conversation and
that New York ship come out? Is you talking about
the like it's crazy? All of that, all of that,
(42:56):
I'm all of that.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
They were like, yo, I'm not like I'm mad neither.
You ever see those like tiktoks and memes they be
doing about New York girls and they be like, Yo,
I'm dead ass. They be like for like the Bay Area,
somebody to be like, do you your New York girl
to be like, I'm dead ass? Where like, man, I
see some ship on the grand the other look, I'm
(43:19):
too old for this ship. Boy. Man, I remember those
ghetto love stories with with with the girl screaming. She
was like, Jonathan Ellis, so I'm telling you boy, I
your like they had like a hood girl arguing with
her man and she was like, Jonathan Ellis, I'm telling you,
(43:40):
don't fight with me. He's like he trying to eat
like you. I can't fucking eat? Like what's going? Like?
She just I mean, you know that's part of growing
up right in New York love story.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Let me hear about your all female production company, the
Auntie's Production.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, the Auntie's Production, your all female production cut really Uh.
We have a company called at sixty too, because we
do everything, so we creative direct, produced design, merch stage design,
sound design, movement, coaching, choreography, directing. Like literally everything is
really a safe space for creatives so they don't feel boxed.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
You want to do this?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Bet?
Speaker 1 (44:21):
You want to do this? Bet?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
You know?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
And cost effective? You know these labels and ship ain't
got no real budgets no more.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
You know what? Tell me about it?
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (44:34):
You work with a lot of major brands. How you choose?
Is it the bag?
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Of course the bags have to be right, but I
can imagine they just.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
All of them brands.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
All money ain't good money, you feel mean, like all
money ain't good going and just snatching bag just because
it's a bag to snatchucker right there, it might be
a bombing that motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I ain't getting blown up, do you feel me?
Speaker 1 (45:00):
So it's just like I'm very cautious with that.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
You see what weird?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
That should be weird?
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Back they try to throw you that, You was like, nah,
I can't do it. I'll tell you mine what No? No,
do you first?
Speaker 6 (45:12):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Boy? Nah? They try to get me to do the fires.
The man they had the mail ticket, they had the meal.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Anna, Lord, let him get the fire high brand.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
You know what you had to do, just take the
flick with just yeah, that was it. You would have
what you want me to take. What's like, Yo, it's
all mail ticket, okay, but what the seventy third? You
(45:49):
wouldn't have dream of this thing? What if they said
just wear it.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
You ain't gotta posting it, just say y'all got it on.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Under the all these guys, That's what I'm saying. Negotiate
what they wanted to me. They wanted to skiller ship.
They wanted me up in there with the son and
solid gold. I got a dog because yn't want a
solid gold ball, got a treaty with Did you Negotia?
Speaker 1 (46:10):
How did you just flat out say no?
Speaker 2 (46:12):
No? Under the slid me throwing under? And I don't
even want to say this story, right, I don't even
want to say the story. I'm not I'm making this
about Tiana. I'm not making this about fat Joe. I
don't want to a ton of people. Let's say they
said they want to hear this.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
They want to hear they want they want to hear this,
they want to hear this.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Lesten people eat what they killed. Uncle Dan Quart a
company that told him they had a million to throw
Joe to do that, and the man was on on
my neck like yo with some meal ticket. Yo. Sup
this just a picture they can thought of? I said, Yo,
(47:01):
I fed yo the gangster be like you want maybe
now my own man could feel a little letter because
you know, we got to rewind the ten you could
color your beid your head. You know, why look fifty
three when you could look forty three, forty three? You twenty?
You know, times are changing. At the time when they
gave me that was way too early.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
You could have told them like designed like a bulletproof
vest and the little straps would have made it.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Tight up, because.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
I got that.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
But you know, sometimes and not only sometimes, yo, I
of it was just just a period of time where
I turned down more money than I made. It was
just they was coming with just like that, all types
of crazy. You think you're crazy because I'm from the projects.
So I'm turning ship down left the thread. I'm like, yo,
(47:57):
are you bucking like you have gonna get this?
Speaker 1 (48:02):
That's real ship.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
All money. All money ain't good money. So I'm very
selective in who I work in. Most importantly, your freedom.
You're creative freedom because freedom ain't.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
Free exactly, speak on the god.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Freedom free. What I'm saying is gonna come with the price,
you know. So it's just like you want to make
sure you go somewhere where you have that that that
freedom to do that.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Let's talk about the fives in the future. We might
get there.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Maybe like I could come in on a fans record
thing and figure out the name.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Of the company, the five Hs. In the future, ye
tell you this five Freedom kind of watch this guy
free to Fire, Freedom Fire.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
You have an incredible late of upcoming films to be released,
I mean, including projects with Paul Thomas Anderson, Tyler Perry,
Ryan Murphy.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
How do you choose your acting Robs m h.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
That is a good question.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
I mean, I gotta feel it, honestly, if I don't
fall asleep reading the script, I love it so real
because sometime I will read a script and I will
read it and it will go through one end out
the like it won't leave the paper. I'm just like,
but when I'm reading it and I can see what's
happening while I'm reading it, because I am a visual person,
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then I know it's it's for me. But it's like,
what's the what's the bigger message? Like what we what
are we talking about here? You know?
Speaker 1 (49:43):
So that's important to me.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
And then of course have an opportunity to work with
people that I've worked with.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
That's another big yes. That's like, oh absolutely, I gave
you a laush I was.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I went to see Centers something.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
I've seen the clip of your movie in it.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
I said, oh shit, Copio, they're looking at me. There's
no hood nigga. Shut I gotta be honest. Uh. The
only guy ever been a group before was Leonardo DiCaprio. Pause.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
So Leo said, do this spih commercial with me.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Nah, but listen what I'm saying. Here the man at
the Beyonce concert, he got a hoodie on this, Like
there's no way to notice Leonardo DiCaprio. You know, we're
sitting in there, arm we're standing in the thing and
this ship like this. He got a hat like this.
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He's like, Yo, what's up?
Speaker 4 (50:44):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (50:45):
I'm like, what's up? I'm like, Yo's up? You know,
because you know I'm doing the Joe crack too. I'm outsad,
you know what I'm saying. I'm like, Yo, what's up. Man,
He's like, yo, it's me Leonardo. I said, what the fuck,
take the hoodie you off? Now. I took a picture
of him. Ship still came out fucked up. It's the
only time I ever did that ship and the picture
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came out too dark. But I made him take the
fucking hoodie off. I was like, y'all, jerk the ship off, man,
I gotta get a pict this. He was like boom,
but he was a nice guy, made.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Privacy, he loved it.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
But he was the only guy ever like lost my
cool for pause. What is your favorite? Uh, well, I'll
give you. I'll give you a way out. What's your
all time favorite soulful spot in Harlem?
Speaker 3 (51:36):
I ain't gonna front a roos Amy Roofs was your favorite?
It was, yeah, but I used to also love well
Devin's was fried fish and ship like that, but like
soulful Amy roots arm read was fired and fried chicken
was fire and macaroni was fired and coming up like
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they were like just always show me mad love, like
from a kid to like you know what I'm saying,
like coming into the industry, like I have little events there,
like because I'm like a creature habit so once I
like something, it's like, that's all I want to eat.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Beside soul food. It's Chinese spout on fortieth linux or
it was Greennies on forty third.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
What does the Chinese regular ghetto Chinese? Or yeah right,
oh lytics they still did. Oh speaking of food, you
know the spot, well, shout out to make my cake
and hall them make my cake, my cake. They don't
want used to walk bottom.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
On on on on a seventh.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
You could just smell, oh, people's watched that episode from
the Bronx.
Speaker 8 (52:44):
I'm from, I'm from for God. Now I'm telling you
my mars. The people from the Bronx. The restaurant you
said that got the banging sauce.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Is groovy, lose in laws. They're gonna next show, they're
gonna bring They're gonna lay shoe and bring you in.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Let mean you remember because you told us about it
on the show. What else the Bronx he got the
chicken the sauce. One of these episodes you was talking
about a spot in the Bronx with the banging sauce.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Whoever he was talking about the sisters they come it.
He's about to bring you on. You know what I'm
looking for you wanted to Parz put me onto turkey
chops back in the day, stopping shot. They ain't got
the turkey chops because I went to every stopping shop
looking for the turkey chops they got. I think you got.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Question is what exactly are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Fake hungry? That's what I'm like, Do we need to hold? Like?
Speaker 1 (53:49):
What we I'm just saying, like, what's the indoor b all?
Because I'm hungry too?
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Now? Episode? Why shi he ordered and some ship for
next week? I'm telling you right now?
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Is the ship coming today?
Speaker 6 (54:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (54:06):
What I'm saying is we was talking haul of He
asks you about your five favorite soul foods. No turkey shop.
That game.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
So for because the Chinese spot on hundred, but food
is really chops. I'm like, yo, like they bring us up.
I thought he was on He said, No, No, what shot?
I'm looking for turkey shot?
Speaker 1 (54:34):
No?
Speaker 2 (54:34):
No, what's on this guy's mind?
Speaker 4 (54:36):
Over it?
Speaker 2 (54:37):
Vaughn Zip used to take me to a spot downtown
like big time a Caprielli's is some wild ship and
they used to have the turkey chops. The chips can't
came and you fry it like porky shops and they
taste like pork chops. They stopped making it. So the
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other day I seen the soul food joint. I was yo.
They it said turkey jobs. I was like, yo, way
the fuck the turkey job. And then everybody started telling
me turkey chops, and they all said stopping shop. But
I went to like stopping shops. By the way, we
got rewinded ten up in that motherfucker too, So if
you want to go fifty.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
There's no turkey shot they are. He just I love
that we found something though, because I was confused.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
He's just we found it. Don't mind me. I love it.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
I'm just I'm tapping we found it because I wasn't
sure where we was going to.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
I don't defend you. You mean jobs. For years they
discontinued it, and then the other day I talked about
it in one of the shows and everybody told me,
now they got the turkey jobs. So I went to
ten supermarkets and find the turkey child. Dear that that's
a big deal. For that's a big deal. You ain't
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no swine, There ain't no puking mo fulk, no hamn
in my pan you know what I'm saying. I don't
know what you say. I don't know. Listen, your Big
Tea performance.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
A long time was characorized as futuristic.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
For me, you might be like the second to Michael Jackson.
Speaker 4 (56:17):
How much you rehearse and how much you prepared for
live performances. Me watching you, I see you all over.
I see when you're getting ready to do a tour.
You're getting ready to do something just like you're doing
an unlimited amount of dancing rehearsing, And how do.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
What is it with that? Do you take that even
more seriously?
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Take that so serious?
Speaker 3 (56:41):
Because honestly, if I could like record the album and
then press the button that takes me straight on tour
and I don't have to do as radio everything that
comes with all that shit, I would. I would go
on tour for the rest of my life. I love
to perform live, and I love to rehearse. I'll rehearse
my dances like I can dance like twelve thirty hours straight,
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like still Gold, you.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Know what I mean, Like I would just I can
just do that all day. And That's also why I'm
so toned. Like I'd be sold. I'd be so ripped
on you.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
Are you boring back? Yeah? You just boring six No,
I was.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
I used to come up with a ninja turtle. You know,
he had the little punch with a six pack on
top of it. Girl ship, I was a ninja turtle.
I never had a muscle in my life. We talked
about it.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah, I was in the gym two times a day,
trainers and everything and couldn't make a muscle. I don't know.
I'm not the fire.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
You could have got paid to get that muscle too.
You could have got paid the millie to get the muscle.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Who she get it from?
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (57:47):
From you or from that where she gets the genetics from.
I'm not asking you who York.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
New York now, but my mom My mom has been
heavy into fitness, like at it at a young age.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
You know your gras both big better than ever. But
let me tell you something right in the order. Like
you know, I'm a big basketball fan, and in order
for someone to become the MVP or to win the championship,
it's a certain level. Like that's why you see all
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these guys breaking their achilles and all that. It's another
like you gotta be faster than everybody. You got to
go another level. You got to train another level, like
to get to that to the chip. And then when
I watch your performances for no reason, you'll be like
you're jumping the heir like it ain't enough. Like for you,
it's like, yo, it's like you got so much built
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in the energy that I believe you train your dances
because I see you outwork them. And that's very rare,
you know, because the dances they supposed to, you know,
help out the artists. You know, some certain artists need
a lot to help you.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
Yeah, but I also think that artists don't other artists
are they don't choreograph for themselves.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
So it's like I'm the dancer and the choreographer, you
know what I'm saying. So it's just like, yo, this
is what we're doing. This is how it was going down.
And me, I just I love to dance.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
I love to I just thought of one jay that
is you have a battle Chris Brown behind the scenes
at a show with something.
Speaker 3 (59:24):
It's never been a battle, but go behind the scenes,
it goes down like it's just always dancing. But the
thing about we be so in sync, it's never a battle.
It's always like if he moved this way, then we
both moving that way, and then we catch it and
then we just like in our own little world.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
There's a lot of videos of us like literally doing that,
Like we dance all day. Like it's people be tired
of us.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
It's like, all right, fucking dancing motherfuckers, Like sit down,
you know what I'm saying, But.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
Like we literally do that shit like all day.
Speaker 3 (59:51):
We hype each other up, you knowee what I'm saying,
Like it's not there's no like we're not competitive toward
one another.
Speaker 7 (59:57):
And I think us coming up together, you know, we
would like to see the videos, the footage some day
of you and Chris going because thank you brother, no
alien tall, no.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Crazy, they think I'm a basket now.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I definitely think that the world deserve that moment.
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
They deserve that moment from us. They deserve a stern
dance number gotta be insane. That would be nuts.
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
With Escape Room coming out in August, what's next feed
of course, the surgery.
Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
How long is the healing well, I mean the first
two weeks, I just gotta I gotta shut up, I
gotta be quiet, and then the third week I'll go
into back into like training to make sure doing therapy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
On mine lovocal cords after that, So we're probably.
Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
In January because then I got to get ready for
one battle after another September twenty sixth coming. Then I
got All's Fair coming, and then I got Ripped coming
with Matt Damon and the afflet. You know, just it's
just it's a lot back to back to back to back,
and then I'm thinking tour maybe like January February, and
then oh, I'm about to direct my first feature film
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called get Lights on the get Light culture and all
of them my first like feature film as director.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, so and that too. So yeah, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
What advice would you give to somebody trying to do
what you did on something remotely close to they want
to sing dance produced? You know, if you just bumped
into a young tea right now, and.
Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
I mean I bump into two young as that come
to me all the time asking me that question and
not tell them to be true to yourself. And I
know that shit sound you know, gimmicky or whatever they
call it, like yeah, generic, because people say, man, we're
for Rell.
Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Don't tell me, never give up. We're in for real,
I'm trying to get signed. You feel me. So it's
just like I like to be real with people and.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Transparent.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
To Joe's point, like I'm a manifesto. You feel what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
So you gotta manifest what you want, and you got
to say what you want and you gotta pray on
what you want and you gotta believe that that's what
it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
It's the faith walk.
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I tell everybody, walk that walk. Walk that walk, and
it ain't gonna be a straight one, you know what
I'm saying. Like, it's going to be rocks and shit
that's gonna be thrown and you know, you might run
into a deer.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
You might.
Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
It's just there's a lot of shit going on, but
you got to keep that faith walk going. And that's
what I tell him, like, and it's just it's important.
It's not never give up. It's not boo boom boom,
because we have our times to be like fuck all
this shit.
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
I don't want to do it. You feel what I'm saying.
So I'm not about to tell you to do that.
Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
You know what I'm saying, But I do want to
tell you to believe and and and have those conversations
with God. That's the only real like bets you need
to make you know what I'm saying, and understanding that
she's not gonna be thrown in your lap. And the
number one thing is don't take none of this shit personal.
My mom told me that a long time ago, because
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I coming in at fifteen, I took everything personal. That's
why I was robie. Because I'm in survival mode, I'm
taking it personal.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Like I got mouths to feed, people to take care of.
I'm taking this shit serious. You know what I'm saying.
And ain't shit shaken. So how I'm gonna shake this table?
You know what I'm saying. But my mama tell me,
don't take this shit personal. It's a wicked business. And
when you stop taking shit personal, you'll feel a lot better.
So now being back on my terms, don't take nothing personal,
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and I feel a lot better. And I'm glowing and
I'm continuing to grow and I'm doing my things cause
I don't take shit personal.
Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
That being said, get ready for the Escape Room project.
Let's get into one of these banger's courtesy of Seanna
Taylor only on the Joe and Jaydens.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Show me sure we got permission for this, because last
time I tried this ship, they said that was the
great song.
Speaker 9 (01:04:07):
The fold on bullshit is that you sure you smoke
to the White House hot you. We did this before
and then and staff and sold the screen.
Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Just make sure y'all find his turkey chops.
Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
You heard it say that again, y'all.
Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Just make sure y'all found his turkey chops. He ain't
fun turkey shots. He ain't gone find them turkey not.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
He ain't trying it. Could have got it when you
when you sold them, from when you sold this. So
for the soul you know what's.
Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Crazy type of it Huber eats you type of the
Huber East. You might be able to find the turkey shops.
Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
They gonna find my mission to day. I'm gonna find me.
Let me east right quick. I'm gonna go too. Whatever
they got something lowis, I'll get you. They ain't got no,
they ain't got no Ah. Let's get it to this exclusion,
don't Dad, James, but a loud.
Speaker 8 (01:05:12):
Got a few questions for you.
Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
She just getting real confusing. Do you want this to
do you don't huh m.
Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
O see a difference away, proving you don't give a
fuck by losing, I say home, So now I'm gone.
What's your ways?
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Your father? Oh you did was make me cry?
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Why you enjoyed the view? He so fucking selfish?
Speaker 9 (01:05:52):
Can't get throd of you?
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Who really wins?
Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
When the family shots so good?
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Johns are.
Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
The problems are bad.
Speaker 8 (01:06:02):
And not the time.
Speaker 6 (01:06:06):
To me and let the city be easy.
Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
The hard party is over. When I shut to me
and there's shot, he be easy.
Speaker 6 (01:06:23):
The hard body is all I can feel you from
me close the spaces, we feel the winches sign an edge.
Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
And us can't get back. Lucky damn knew it.
Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
You feel out these feelings.
Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
I'm feeling a carreact, call on the chain, React and
I understand the stand right road. When we gage with
drugs dressing pieces, see me back and I do move on?
They give me tied out. Did you're not signed up
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the hardway?
Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Hot she.
Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Escape rope? That was the hard part? Holy ship was
not a beautiful sult.
Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
They show you download, stream, purchase wherever you get your
forms of music.
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Escapeboard Project, Lucky shout Out, Lucky Day, follow six packer.
This guy gonna perform six packed out this guy right
lucky day. Let me, I gotta tell you the vibe
that gave me. First of all, you picked up right
where you left off even better growth vi. You know
(01:08:13):
that reminds me all when she called the car and
she was like, you might not have noticed me, but
I'm the waitress.
Speaker 7 (01:08:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I throw water in your car, in your in your
in your cool. My boss tell me that the club.
He told me not to throw the milk, but I
throw the milk in your chocolate. And what was the
name of that spot? Legendary on the handand Handpam, which legend? Yo?
You got us?
Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Stop?
Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
You ain't no no my form of no ham in
my pan. That's a HALLM restaurant. All right, This is
why y'all got a five though. Well, we're gonna pray
for you with the surgery. We thank you for honoring
us with your presence. You after us, but we feel
like you, like you just bridge our era with the
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new era. Like you you're a great cloth. She got
that you're from that cloth, you know what I mean? That,
Mama love, that's hard to be from that cloth, you
know what I mean? So we appreciate you and thanks
for sitting on the couch with us. I'm Joe cracked
Jady kiss this, ain't that, that, ain't this, and this
cracking kiss baby makes some noise.