August 27, 2025 • 12 mins
Daniel Cormier IS BACK with his INSTANT REACTION to the biggest news in MMA and the UFC! Cormier talks about Khabib Nurmagomedov's recent viral comments on why he believes Arman Tsarukyan is the best lightweight in the World, despite the champion title belonging to Ilia Topuria. DC breaks down the Khabib analysis, and goes in on why despite the accurate breakdown, this fight is much more even between Arman and Ilia. Plus, Cormier gets into Islam Makhachev being asked about the Ilia Topuria fight, and why his answer to the fan's question means it's only a matter of time before we get this superfight! #Volume
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What's up guys this Wednesday, August twenty seventh, and welcome
back to DCTV and a brand new episode presented by
Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. They're in
your corner with unlimited five G data that will not
slow you down. So I've been away a little bit,
you know, kind of getting my my fight team going
(01:55):
and everything and been working. But I gotta tell you, guys,
I didn't even imagine that it would go as fast
as it has. We got three Guys Fighting Contender Series,
one Guy Fighting Noche UFC, with so many more on
the verge of getting a chance to break through and
get into the UFC. So very happy coach right now.
Another happy coach is my friend Habib Nomega Metof because
(02:19):
why wouldn't he be right? When you are coaching some
of the best fighters in the world and a great team.
As a coach, you can ask for nothing more. But
there's only one prize. Pupil of Team Habib and that's
Islam Markachev. Islamarkachev's the UFC are was the UFC lightweight champion.
Now Islam obviously is fighting for the Wealthway title against
(02:40):
Jack Dela matt Atalanta in New York. If you are
to believe what Habib said at his last hit down,
Habib has a lot of thoughts on not only Islam
in his career and influence, but he also has a
lot of thoughts on the one fifty five pound division
as a whole, of the division that he once ruled
with an iron fist, now which is now ruled by
(03:04):
the new.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Champion, Elliot to Pouria.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We have spoke so much about all the confusion at
one point fifty five, all the issues at lightweight, especially
with the new champion and the old champ going up
and Patty going into the octagon when he was as
opposed to and all these other things. But when asked
straight up who Habib thought the best lightweight in the
(03:29):
world was, he said, without a question, without a question,
it was armand Serukian, right, stating, I don't believe that
Illy would have much of a chance. He told Camil
Gatziev championship rounds. Armand fights too well at range against strikers.
(03:52):
He keeps his distance well, works better with his kicks,
and now Arma's improved a lot. He has footage that
he can study analyze. If they fought three years ago,
maybe he would have been cautious, but now you can
clearly see what dangers to.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Pour your brings.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I believe that right now Armand Serukian is the best
lightweight in the world.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I understand all that he said right because that's not
just how Bib not liking Iliot to Pouria. That's not
how Bib just saying something that is against the guy
that his prize people seems to have an issue with.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's a pretty good breakdown.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Here's where I differentiate from him when it comes to
the thought. All we've seen Illiot to Pooria do is
beat people up, and honestly, for as much better as
Armand's gotten, Iliot's gotten better too.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now am I not? Am I am? By no means
saying that Armand cannot.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Fight Iliot to Pouria and he might be the best
lightweight in the world, but Pooria has the belt now
and because of that and the way that he looked
doing it, Eliot's to Poitier is the best lightweight in
the world. To me, why because common opponents. I know
MMA math doesn't work, and common opponents Eliots to Poria
did away with Charles Olivera. Say Charles Olivera fought the
(05:16):
wrong fight, whatever, but he had moments against Armand truki On.
He never looked in the fight with Ilia, and honestly,
not many people have. Max Holloway fought well at the
beginning of the first round. Josh Immittt had no chance.
He just got beat on the whole time. Very few people.
The worst we saw was when the kid from England,
(05:37):
Ji Herbert, dropped Ilia, but then ultimately he got up
and he finished him.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
To Pouria is tough.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He's very very good, so that's why I disagree. But
for the most part, I do agree with his assessment.
Armand's much better today than he was before. Armond has
improved tremendous. Say, Armand's big and.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Physical, so that could be an issue, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Man, it's hard to look at Eliot Toporia and feel like,
if you're not watching him fight Islam Makachev, you're watching
the best guy in the weight class.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
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Speaker 1 (07:37):
People also said Armand can take people down. That's something
we haven't really seen Iliot deal with much. But if
I'm being honest, people tell me that Ilia's real base
is as a grappler. So I don't know, but Armand
is a tremendous wrestle, physically strong, big, He's a real
lightweight that could possess some skills that could potentially be
(07:58):
an issue. Orman has good elbows on the ground, very
good elbows. He can grapple, submit, take the back. I'd
say it's eighty twenty in Armand's favor. His wrestling, pressure, physicality,
all of that matters. He's tall about almost ten centimeters
if I'm not mistaken, He's heavier and on fight night
he'll be the bigger man. And of course wrestling plays
(08:20):
a huge role, especially in fights like this. This part
of Abiam's assessment outside of the eighty twenty Armand that's
more of a.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Fifty to fifty, sixty to forty fight.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
But uh, outside of that, I agree with the assessment.
I believe that there are issues to be had for Tapouria.
Suki can present him because he has good wrestling.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I know.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Like I said, I've been told to pour youa has
better wrestling, grappling, and he does most other things. But
all I've seen him do is knocking people out. I
haven't seen him deal with a wrestler at the caliber
of Armand's ruki On j Gosh, Immag's a good wrestler,
but he's not Armand he's not as big, he's not
as physical. He doesn't present the same skill set and
problems that Armont's Rukion could potentially present for Iliot to Pouria.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So yes, I agree there.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Eighty twenty is crazy, though, come on, man, eighty twenty
is hard when anyone's fighting eighty twenty. The only time
eighty twenty could be thought of in fights has been
in the case of Kabib and John Jones. They're the
only people that have gone through this whole thing without losing.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
They are the only two.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So you could have possibly said, well, yeah, it's probably
eighty percent that guy's way because they never lose.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
But guess who else has lost?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Iliot to Pourier, So to put him on the opposite
side of that eighty twenty is crazy to me. I
don't believe that for one second. I really do disagree
with how Bib.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
On that one.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
That's one that there is not a guy in the
world that I believe is gonna beat Iliot to pour
you eight out of ten times.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
That's just the truth. So and I'm looking down at
my notes. Here.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Islam was doing a q and at the other day
a fan asked him, could you please come back.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And uh deal with Iliot to pour you in? Islam said,
as you wish.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So it feels to me, especially with hearing what I
heard from Islam himself, my super fighters with Iliot to
pour you, not Hams at your miath, it feels to
me like we're closer to that becoming a reality.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Than we might have been before before.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I don't know that we were going to get Iliot
to pour You versus uh Islamikachev. But now it feels
like we really are starting to work our way towards
those guys getting locked the side of ocagon. And that
could be something as simple as Islam going absolutely, I'll
do it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You're my pleasure, take care Ilia my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I want a fight with Haams, I'd be more intriguing
or no, I would rather fight to pour you.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's the fight. We'll be fighting them on pap pam spot.
It just seems to me like Islam is.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
More and more open to the idea that he's going
to fight Illy to pour you, and I know that
Ilio to.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Poor You wants this.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So there's more movement in that regard in terms of
these guys finally fighting and coming together. I just don't
know how soon it could happen. Dude, Islam's got a
big fight with Jack Della. Even Kabib said, Hey, this
guy's very good. He's seen everything. He's a very difficult
opponent for Islam. I know what challenges we face, and
(11:49):
we know that Iliot to Pouria it's gonna be Patty
pimblet or Armand's Rukian and there's no guarantee to get
through those. It's a very tough time, but at least
they're speaking of each other. Before we had Illiot talking
in Islam, kind of no selling him and ignoring him.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Now we have both of them talking.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
And when they both start talking, that makes for a
dynamic that tells us that those guys are maybe about
to fight, or at least they're open to fighting, and
that's what we want when you got two of the
best fighters in the world in the same way. Class guys,
thank you so much for supporting me. Thank you for
supporting everything that I do. I love and appreciate all
of you. Until next time, Peace,
The volume. Look the boys a double champ. I'm your
favorite podcaster and now I'm an official role partner. Fellas,
whether you're in or you're out of that bedroom with
your partner significant other, you gotta satisfy those needs. It's
as important as it comes, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And one thing about Rome. When you're in that bedroom, Rose.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Sparks got you back with his long lasting functionality. Two
in one prescription treatment for guys who just want a
little more control lit those directions, you know, the more
thing get away from you every now and again if
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
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Speaker 1 (01:21):
Thank me yet, but you will thank me later when
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Let's go.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What's up guys this Wednesday, August twenty seventh, and welcome
back to DCTV and a brand new episode presented by
Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. They're in
your corner with unlimited five G data that will not
slow you down. So I've been away a little bit,
you know, kind of getting my my fight team going
(01:55):
and everything and been working. But I gotta tell you, guys,
I didn't even imagine that it would go as fast
as it has. We got three Guys Fighting Contender Series,
one Guy Fighting Noche UFC, with so many more on
the verge of getting a chance to break through and
get into the UFC. So very happy coach right now.
Another happy coach is my friend Habib Nomega Metof because
(02:19):
why wouldn't he be right? When you are coaching some
of the best fighters in the world and a great team.
As a coach, you can ask for nothing more. But
there's only one prize. Pupil of Team Habib and that's
Islam Markachev. Islamarkachev's the UFC are was the UFC lightweight champion.
Now Islam obviously is fighting for the Wealthway title against
(02:40):
Jack Dela matt Atalanta in New York. If you are
to believe what Habib said at his last hit down,
Habib has a lot of thoughts on not only Islam
in his career and influence, but he also has a
lot of thoughts on the one fifty five pound division
as a whole, of the division that he once ruled
with an iron fist, now which is now ruled by
(03:04):
the new.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Champion, Elliot to Pouria.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We have spoke so much about all the confusion at
one point fifty five, all the issues at lightweight, especially
with the new champion and the old champ going up
and Patty going into the octagon when he was as
opposed to and all these other things. But when asked
straight up who Habib thought the best lightweight in the
(03:29):
world was, he said, without a question, without a question,
it was armand Serukian, right, stating, I don't believe that
Illy would have much of a chance. He told Camil
Gatziev championship rounds. Armand fights too well at range against strikers.
(03:52):
He keeps his distance well, works better with his kicks,
and now Arma's improved a lot. He has footage that
he can study analyze. If they fought three years ago,
maybe he would have been cautious, but now you can
clearly see what dangers to.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Pour your brings.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I believe that right now Armand Serukian is the best
lightweight in the world.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I understand all that he said right because that's not
just how Bib not liking Iliot to Pouria. That's not
how Bib just saying something that is against the guy
that his prize people seems to have an issue with.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's a pretty good breakdown.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Here's where I differentiate from him when it comes to
the thought. All we've seen Illiot to Pooria do is
beat people up, and honestly, for as much better as
Armand's gotten, Iliot's gotten better too.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now am I not? Am I am? By no means
saying that Armand cannot.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Fight Iliot to Pouria and he might be the best
lightweight in the world, but Pooria has the belt now
and because of that and the way that he looked
doing it, Eliot's to Poitier is the best lightweight in
the world. To me, why because common opponents. I know
MMA math doesn't work, and common opponents Eliots to Poria
did away with Charles Olivera. Say Charles Olivera fought the
(05:16):
wrong fight, whatever, but he had moments against Armand truki On.
He never looked in the fight with Ilia, and honestly,
not many people have. Max Holloway fought well at the
beginning of the first round. Josh Immittt had no chance.
He just got beat on the whole time. Very few people.
The worst we saw was when the kid from England,
(05:37):
Ji Herbert, dropped Ilia, but then ultimately he got up
and he finished him.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
To Pouria is tough.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He's very very good, so that's why I disagree. But
for the most part, I do agree with his assessment.
Armand's much better today than he was before. Armond has
improved tremendous. Say, Armand's big and.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Physical, so that could be an issue, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Man, it's hard to look at Eliot Toporia and feel like,
if you're not watching him fight Islam Makachev, you're watching
the best guy in the weight class.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Just the truth. All right, guys, is the best time
of the year.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
College football is back so once again, and I'm partnering
up with our friends at the DraftKings sports Book to
give all new customers a fantastic offer. Bet only five
dollars or more on your favorite team and get two
hundred dollars and bonus bets instantly when you sign up
using my promo code DCTV. Hey, at the DraftKings sports Book,
you have all the lines. You are having ability to
(06:36):
go and show that you have knowledge of what goes
on in sports while banking in getting laced up. The
Draftking Sports Book has always got your back with all
those parlays, those straight wagers, everything.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So again, go to the Draftking sports Book.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Bet only five dollars the more when you sign up
using my promo code DCTV, We'll give you two hundred
dollars bonus bet instantly. Hey, the college football crown is
on the line starting right now. But at the DraftKings
Sports Book, the crown is always yours.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
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called eight seven seven eight hope and wire text hope
and y four six seven three six nine in Connecticut.
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(07:30):
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Speaker 1 (07:37):
People also said Armand can take people down. That's something
we haven't really seen Iliot deal with much. But if
I'm being honest, people tell me that Ilia's real base
is as a grappler. So I don't know, but Armand
is a tremendous wrestle, physically strong, big, He's a real
lightweight that could possess some skills that could potentially be
(07:58):
an issue. Orman has good elbows on the ground, very
good elbows. He can grapple, submit, take the back. I'd
say it's eighty twenty in Armand's favor. His wrestling, pressure, physicality,
all of that matters. He's tall about almost ten centimeters
if I'm not mistaken, He's heavier and on fight night
he'll be the bigger man. And of course wrestling plays
(08:20):
a huge role, especially in fights like this. This part
of Abiam's assessment outside of the eighty twenty Armand that's
more of a.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Fifty to fifty, sixty to forty fight.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
But uh, outside of that, I agree with the assessment.
I believe that there are issues to be had for Tapouria.
Suki can present him because he has good wrestling.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I know.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Like I said, I've been told to pour youa has
better wrestling, grappling, and he does most other things. But
all I've seen him do is knocking people out. I
haven't seen him deal with a wrestler at the caliber
of Armand's ruki On j Gosh, Immag's a good wrestler,
but he's not Armand he's not as big, he's not
as physical. He doesn't present the same skill set and
problems that Armont's Rukion could potentially present for Iliot to Pouria.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So yes, I agree there.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Eighty twenty is crazy, though, come on, man, eighty twenty
is hard when anyone's fighting eighty twenty. The only time
eighty twenty could be thought of in fights has been
in the case of Kabib and John Jones. They're the
only people that have gone through this whole thing without losing.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
They are the only two.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So you could have possibly said, well, yeah, it's probably
eighty percent that guy's way because they never lose.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
But guess who else has lost?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Iliot to Pourier, So to put him on the opposite
side of that eighty twenty is crazy to me. I
don't believe that for one second. I really do disagree
with how Bib.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
On that one.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
That's one that there is not a guy in the
world that I believe is gonna beat Iliot to pour
you eight out of ten times.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
That's just the truth. So and I'm looking down at
my notes. Here.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Islam was doing a q and at the other day
a fan asked him, could you please come back.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And uh deal with Iliot to pour you in? Islam said,
as you wish.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So it feels to me, especially with hearing what I
heard from Islam himself, my super fighters with Iliot to
pour you, not Hams at your miath, it feels to
me like we're closer to that becoming a reality.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Than we might have been before before.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I don't know that we were going to get Iliot
to pour You versus uh Islamikachev. But now it feels
like we really are starting to work our way towards
those guys getting locked the side of ocagon. And that
could be something as simple as Islam going absolutely, I'll
do it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You're my pleasure, take care Ilia my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I want a fight with Haams, I'd be more intriguing
or no, I would rather fight to pour you.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's the fight. We'll be fighting them on pap pam spot.
It just seems to me like Islam is.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
More and more open to the idea that he's going
to fight Illy to pour you, and I know that
Ilio to.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Poor You wants this.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So there's more movement in that regard in terms of
these guys finally fighting and coming together. I just don't
know how soon it could happen. Dude, Islam's got a
big fight with Jack Della. Even Kabib said, Hey, this
guy's very good. He's seen everything. He's a very difficult
opponent for Islam. I know what challenges we face, and
(11:49):
we know that Iliot to Pouria it's gonna be Patty
pimblet or Armand's Rukian and there's no guarantee to get
through those. It's a very tough time, but at least
they're speaking of each other. Before we had Illiot talking
in Islam, kind of no selling him and ignoring him.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Now we have both of them talking.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
And when they both start talking, that makes for a
dynamic that tells us that those guys are maybe about
to fight, or at least they're open to fighting, and
that's what we want when you got two of the
best fighters in the world in the same way. Class guys,
thank you so much for supporting me. Thank you for
supporting everything that I do. I love and appreciate all
of you. Until next time, Peace,
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