September 1, 2025 • 41 mins
Jonas Knox, filling in for Colin Cowherd, believes the comparisons to Nick Saban has already doomed Kalen DeBoer. Calvin Ridley, the people's Wide Receiver, was ahead of his time in sports gambling. Justin Fields hopes for a resurgence New York. Plus, stadium beer prices, fantasy advice and more!
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
So somebody in the world of football already feel in
the heat? Already feel in the heat? Well, explain who
that is coming up here in just a couple of
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
Of your labor day Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We appreciate you doing so, as we take you all
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By the way, I do a show during the week
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Sports Radio two to four pm Eastern Time, eleven am
to one pm Pacific time. And I bring up Saturday
because this past Saturday, you know, doing a show, the
Ohio State Texas game is going on, and I'm watching
the reaction to arch manning struggles and then just kind
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of seeing maybe the overreaction to some things throughout college
football that doesn't make it this point earlier, I said, Look,
I mean, I like the fact that the College Football
Playoff gives teams an opportunity to suffer a loss, to
struggle a little bit early on.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Because it allows you to go through those difficulties and
still not be punished so much that you can't play
for something bigger. This isn't like boxing, where you would
be punished if you lost your perfect record, all right.
They're more like the UFC or like, hey, you got
a couple of losses, whatever. If you're next in line
for a title shot, you're getting a title shot, Like look,
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whoever's next in line. You got to do the work,
But whoever's next in line, you're gonna get your opportunity.
The College Football Playoffs allowed teams to do that, so
you could lose early on in the season. You could
be a Clemson and lose and everything's going to be fine.
You could be a Notre Dame and lose to Miami
and everything's going to be fine. Christ Notre Dame lost
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last year to Northern Illinois and still figure it out
a way to get in. Like you can be in
Ohio State and lose to Michigan and you're still going
to have an opportunity. And then there's Alabama, and then
there's Cana Debor and take it over for Dick Saban
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and eh, you open up this year, you take on
Florida State, who won two games a year ago, and
you just get annihilated at the line of scrimmage, which
just didn't happen when Nick Saban was the coach at Alabama, right,
it just.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Looked a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And so they go into Tallahassee and get stomped out
and all of a sudden, Klein de Boris feel in
the heat and he spoke about the performance of Alabama
following the loss to Florida State that yous to believe.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
We got to go football team.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But you know, we can't play on our heels like
we're not going to be what we think we can
be what we want to be if that's the case.
And so again that falls on everyone. I don't just
put the point the finger at the players. You know
gave the I know the both sides of the ball.
I mean, you kind of know what you're gonna see,
but going into the game, but you know, with new coordinators,
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but we gotta you know, we talked in a lot.
There's no excuse about what happened. We step on the
football field, they step on the football field, and we
got to play ball. We got to play our style
of ball. And you know last year isn't this year,
and it's going to be an uphill climb for us.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
But you can't think of it the big scope of things.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
You got to focus on the moment and the next
moment is what happens tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
That's Calin de boor the Alabama head coach following the
loss to Florida State. All of that makes sense, and
all of that is the probably the right outlook to have,
especially after losing that and as I mentioned earlier, Look,
these are difficult games, especially if you go on the road.
If you go on the road in a difficult environment
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early on, it's what makes the LSU win so impressive.
But if you go on the road early on, I
don't care what Florida State was last year. They're not
a two win team. Like, I don't see Florida State
winning one more game the rest of the year. That's
a difficult place. Everybody's fired up. Fans have been licking
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the lid in the parking lot for hours at that point,
probably stayed up from the night before.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
But that's a that's a fiery environment. So I look
at it.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I go, look, man, Yeah, it's a difficult loss. I
get it. But you can bounce back, much like Texas.
You can bounce back. But it's Alabama and that's the problem,
and that's the issue, and that's why there are differences here.
It's what makes college football great to where I'm not
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condoning poisoning a tree that's been there for two hundred years. Okay,
but that happened, and it happens in college football. Did
anybody see the Alabama fan who went viral? Somebody zoomed
in on an Alabama fan as they were getting stomped
out by Florida State, and the guy just literally threw
up a middle finger. He knew he was on camera,
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he knew it was in the stadium. He was pissed.
He was your typical Alabama fan, polo shirt, a slouch
hat with the with the bill curved so much that
you could barely see his eyes. Camera pops up on
him and he just throws them the bird. Couldn't even
care less. That's Alabama. That's that's the way they operate.
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As somebody who worked and spent time in sec country
doing radio back in the day, somebody who's been to Alabama.
That fan base has a certain level of expectation, and
that certain level of expectation is because of Nick Saban.
He's the greatest to ever do it. And Calin de
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Boor has taken over a near impossible job because to
be the guy after Nick Saban.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Is a real pain in the ass. It just is.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But that's a difficult task to have to take over
that job. And that's why when Caleaen de bor took
the job, was like, I get it, he's getting paid,
but damn, that's a lot to ask just to give
you an idea the level of success that Nick Saban
had at Alabama.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Just to give you an idea.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Calin de Boor already in his time at Alabama has
four losses versus unranked teams. Nick Saban had four losses
versus unranked teams in seventeen years. Like, we got a problem.
It's a problem. Okay, there's already people calling for Canada
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Bor's job. All right, there's already the fans are already out,
they are already out.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
In full force.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
There's got to be some changes here that the things
have got it with, you know, we gotta somebody's got
to do something. This is unacceptable. And Alabama's probably going
to turn out to be a pretty good team. And look,
because of the expanded College Football Playoff, maybe Alabama's going
to bounce back, Maybe they'll go on a run in
the SEC.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Maybe everything's going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Or Alabama fans are finally realizing, yeah, that's not Nick Saban.
And it doesn't mean that Caleen Divor is not a
good coach. He did great things at Washington. It doesn't
mean he's not a good coach. He is, but that
job at that school, with that program and those expectations
is a different level.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I was born and raised in southern California. Right now,
some people will call it the Hato five, right but
I was born and raised in Thousand Oaks, California. I
liked college football growing up. I was a fan of
college football obviously, you know the great Miami teams back
in the day. I like college football, of course, the traditions,
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all that stuff, but I didn't get college football. I
liked it, but I didn't totally get it until I
started doing radio in the South and I realize, oh god,
it's just different here.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And that's not to diminish what USC did with Matt
Lioner and Reggie Bush and those guys, and Pete Carroll,
that's not to diminish them. But even then, at the
height of USC and the dominant program that they had,
even then some of the great players and greatest teams
we've ever seen, it's not even close to what it
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is in the South during college football season. It isn't
even not even a fraction. And we're talking about like
mid tier SEC teams like South Carolina. When I was
there and Steve Spurrier was the coach. They were okay,
they were competing for a national championship that wasn't happening,
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but they're okay. Fan base is nuts. What do you
think Alabama's like Alabama then? And that was before Nick
Saban put together this legendary run in Tuscaloosa. That was
even then, that fan base was crazy. Like they they
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live and breathe and die college football. That's all they
care about. So while Klein de Borr is a very
good coach who can withstand a lot of the heat
and other places in Tuscalosa, that's a tall task. That's
a really tall task. Nebraska great program, right, they couldn't
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wait to get rid of Bopolini, and bo Polini was
winning nine games a year constantly not.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Good enough, not good enough? See you? Okay, how's that going?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I mean, Matt Ruhle, maybe he has him back to prominence,
maybe he can get him there, but that wasn't good enough.
And whatever Kaylen de Boor does short of Nick Saban
is not going to be good enough. He took on
an impossible task. He's expected to take over and replace
the greatest to ever do it. And on top of that,
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in a place that is obsessed with that program. Obsessed.
They care about football in the South more than you
care about your kids. They are obsessed. And so whatever
Kaylen de Boor says after the game, and maybe they'll
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bounce back, and maybe they'll respond, and maybe they'll go
on a heater, they're still going to be majority of
Alabama fans that are like, yeah, but he's not Saban,
And I got news for you. He's never going to
be Saban. He's going to feel the heat because he
took on the impossible task of replacing the greatest ever
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do it, and more often than not, that never ends well.
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Speaker 3 (12:45):
All Right, so the proof is in the numbers. Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And while some people might look at you and say
you've got issues, You've got a problem. I look at
you and I say, you know what, You're ahead of
your time. Find out who that is right here next
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It's a Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knox
in for Colin by the way, coming up here a
little over ten minutes from now. In the headline News
we've got a proof that there is one fan base
and one venue in the NFL that.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Goes harder than the others.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We'll get into that for you again, coming up here
a little over ten minutes from now. So Calvin Ridley
of the Tennessee Titans, he spoke recently. He was talking
with ESPN, and I don't know if you remember Calvin Ridley.
I called him the people's wide receiver because while he
was away from playing football, the guy was out there
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doing like seven seven leg parlays and all sorts of
fun stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And I'm like, you know what, man, he's one of us.
Look at that. Guys just like us. Guy's just like us.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It's like when Christian Bale was seen driving like a
Tacoma looks like like a two thousand and five Tacoma.
If you're like, oh my, look at that. He's a celebrity.
He drives a pickup truck. Yeah, it's just like us.
Calvin Ridley out there doing seven league parlays, just like us.
But Calvin Ridley with ESPN and talked about the suspension. Quote,
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the suspension gave me time to rest, get physically better
and mentally stronger after that year, I was ready to
come back. He talked about the gambling he took part in,
said I downloaded the apps, sitting there and not knowing
that I was breaking a rule or anything. And he
bet on two NFL games. There were two NFL games,
none on his team, I don't believe, but he bet
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on two games. He said, hey, yeah, those are the
only two that I bet on. It's like, okay, you know,
maybe instead of like making Calvin Ridley explain himself, maybe
instead of making Calvin Ridley sit here and be criticized
and judged, Maybe instead of being a wise ass and
(15:48):
looking at Calvin Ridley and saying, you know what, man,
how could you how could you yeurinate away potentially your
NFL career? You talk about loving football as a kid
and blah blah blah. You know, maybe instead of taking
that approach, we could give Calvin Ridley a round of
applause and say, you know what, Goud was ahead of
his time like I was ahead of his time. Now
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keep it going, man, I'm serious, and that's enough. Let's
say judgment free z own year on Fox Sports Radio,
on this show when I'm hosting, tell you why. According
to an estimate released by the American Gaming Association, NFL
betters are expected to wager approximately thirty billion dollars on
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the league this season with legal sports books in the US.
By the way, it's not even legal in every state.
There's like twelve states that are still holding out. California
is too.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
What a shock.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Wait, what a stunner, California. Oh, he can't go. Okay,
what a stunner. Thirty billion dollars. That's an eight point
five percent increased from last year. Okay, that's what we're
talking about. Calvin really was just ahead of his time.
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You know, he saw what was happening, just like a
lot of people saw what was happening. And when you
think about how much people are going to and look,
there's a and I get it. There are some people
who do have issues, all right, show Hey, Otani's interpreter.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
That guy had some problems, all right, got some problems.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You know, he's betting on like you know, Indian Premier
League cricket and you know horse races overseas where the
horses run backwards like it, just like like I get it, Okay,
I understand some people have a problem. And I've heard
some people say that this is concerning. If we're opening
this up, you know, people could get into financial trouble.
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People can get it. Okay, all that's true. But I'm
not going to walk by a liquor store and say
you guys to shut down, sir or ma'am because so
and so has a drinking problem. No, I'll walk by
and say, hey, so and so's got a drinking problem.
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But if they got cash, I mean, I don't have
to tell you, Like, somebody's got to scratch the edge.
It's not my job to tell the NFL or anybody
else or anybody that wants to partake in gambling, hey,
you shouldn't do that. And here are the pitfalls. Not
everybody falls into the open sewer that somebody took the
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cap off of. Not everybody falls. Some people are aware, Yeah,
this could be a problem. Got to keep my eyes open,
head on a swivel. And you look at those numbers,
thirty billion dollars and it's not even legal in every
state I talked about it earlier. You saw the numbers
of the preseason. You see you saw the preseason numbers,
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like the viewership two point two million, like up seventeen
percent on last here, et cetera, et cetera. Like you
don't think that there were some people gambling on the preseason,
there were one and Ahino.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I know because I'm one of them.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I don't think people understand and and and look, they've
welcome gambling in and I get it. There's gonna be
some athletes. I think the Cleveland Guardians, you know, they
used to be called something else. But listen, we're not
going to go down that road. Right, you can watch
Major League if you want to see that. Right, it's
a damn shame. But the Cleveland Guardians have got two
pitchers who are on leave and they're investigating, like like
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really good pictures, and they're investigating them because they're like, man,
we really saw a spike in betting. Yeah, what was it?
You know, people betting whether or not the next pitch
was going to be a ball or a hit by pitch.
And then lo and behold, the very next pitch was
way outside, like a lot further outside than normal. Said oh, okay, yeah,
that might be an issue, that might be a problem,
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But that doesn't mean you just stop. That doesn't mean
you to say no, no, nobody can partake. Nobody can be evolved,
and I think that the NFL and I think that
people are slowly pulling back on the restrictions. You've seen
how they've adjusted the punishments to athletes who get popped.
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You've seen how it used to be, all everybody's gone
for a full season, or everybody's gone for six games,
then it's like, M kind kind of work with you
on this. It wasn't that long ago that Tony Romo,
before he was golfing and part time broadcasting. It wasn't
that long ago that Tony Romo wanted to set up
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a fantasy football convention in Las Vegas, and the NFL said, no, no,
you can't, Like, we don't like the we don't like
the idea of gambling getting involved here. Ten years later,
thirty billion, thirty billion is going to be gambled on
the NFL, And I think the NFL realized there's an
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opportunity to make money. But I think they've also realized, yeah,
there's gonna be the potential that guys are gonna go sideways,
Like there is the potential of that. You've seen it
happen in the NBA. It was it Johntay Porter, Like
you've seen listen like, yeah, there's the potential of that,
but it doesn't mean that you just get rid of
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it for everybody. Like Calvin Ridley served his punishment, he
learned his lesson quote unquote, other guys have you know,
gotten popped for it and they've been punished for it.
But the fact that you see so many people taking part,
so many that you're looking at thirty billion up eight
point five percent, and I got news for eight point
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five percent of thirty billion is a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
That's a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
But when you're seeing those numbers and it's still not
legal in over ten states in the country, it's only
going to get bigger. That lead we mentioned earlier the
NFL has on every single sport. Based on the ratings
that came out for preseason games, that lead's only getting bigger.
There's going to be more of this. There's going to
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be the potential of more players coming up or popping
up that are gambling on games or partaking in games.
I don't think it's the worst thing in the world.
I'm one of those people who takes Pete Rose's side
from this standpoint, if he didn't bet against his team,
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I do look at that different than betting on your team.
I'm sorry I do, because there's nothing wrong with supporting
your team and betting on your team. Trust me, I've
rooted for awful teams, awful teams growing up, and if
there was an opportunity to bet on him, I was
going to do it. I would never bet against him.
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Wanted to be loyal, but I was good. So I'm
one of those people. I know it's a little crazy,
but I'm one of those people looks at it says, well,
you know, people, if he didn't bet, like I can
understand the punishments and all that, but if he didn't
bet against his team. As a manager, I think we
do look at that a little bit differently than betting
on your team. Calvin really getting punished and opening up
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about it and all that, all these other guys that
have been punished. This stuff's gonna continue to pop up.
I got news for you. It's gonna happen. When the
Super Bowl was in Vegas a couple of years ago,
I thought it was ridiculous that the NFL is like, oh,
we're banning anybody on either team. Anybody on either team
that is seen in a casino, they'll be banned from
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the game, Like they're talking about all these punishments, and
I remember at the point being like, so a second,
you mean to tell me if somebody walks up in
Jake Moody's playing a penny slot at the Luxor, likely
like you walk by, Hey, look it's Jake Moody. He's
playing penny slots. He's playing the double Dolphin game at
the lux Or, or Buffalo Stampede at the lux Or.
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You mean to tell me he's not gonna be allowed
to play in the Super Bowl because he's betting on
a slot machine. And I think the NFL is starting
to loosen some of those restrictions as far as Yeah,
maybe maybe it's not the end of the world, but
it's also not the end of the gambling infusion.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
If it's thirty billion this year, it's only gonna be
more next year, especially when you've got ten plus states
that still don't allow it. This is only the tip
of the iceberg. There's gonna be more of it, and
there's probably gonna be more paranoia that comes along with it.
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a front office executive in the NFL who missed a
pretty obvious, pretty obvious detail of his assessment on his
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starting quarterback. We will have that for you again here
a little over fifteen minutes from now. But right now,
it's time for the second installment of the herd Line News.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
No, no, no, this is the herd Line News.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
All right, lead to lat What do we got. By
the way, Lee, you're a degenerate, flunky gambler. You're still
betting on horse races at dive bars.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Oh yeah, that's my favorite thing to do, you know,
minimum bet.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Hey, let me just tell you something for anybody listening
across the country. I know there's there's the race tracks
all around. You want to go have a damn good
time during the NFL season, go to Santa Anita. Oh yeah,
that's a damn good time. Let's go live to our
I have a thought on gambling inside of Christopher for
the latest. I think I'm actually taking a weekend off
in October to go to del Mar for the Breeders' Cup. Yeah,
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it just looked like that's yeah, it's uh football on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
It's just.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Santa Anita Racetrack is one of the most underrated venues
that there ready to go to. It's just a tremendous time,
especially during football season. People out there betting their life
savings on the three horse and the fourth race.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
There's nothing better. My dad learned how to drive chauffeuring
my grandfather up for carriage racing in Toledo. That's right,
Like the carriage racing is some real dirt bag stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Hey, let me tell you. Let me tell you something.
The late great Frank Pollock Fox Sports radio legendar. Frank
used to go to the go Beta races all the time.
That guy used to fish, eat terrible food, and gamble
on horses.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Nothing wrong with that. What do we got, Lee? Well,
what goes great with a little gambling on the game?
About a little cold beer? And for NFL fans, they
might be comping up a pretty penny depending on what
stadium you're going to during the game. Can you guess
which stadium has the highest priced beer? Oh? Highest priced?
(27:07):
So fine, man, just a ripoff at you I mean
it is. It is up there. It has fourteen dollars beers,
but there is a few that are a bit more
that being Levi's Stadium, which is actually also fourteen so
it's the same. But Raymond James Stadium fourteen twenty five,
Allegiance Stadium fifteen bucks. But the top and highest priced
beer is Washington Commanders at Commander's Field sixteen fifty sixteen.
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Now are we talking domestic beers? That is a domestic beer,
because if you're gonna go ipa, you know what, is
I gonna go twenty.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Five bucks for an Inpa?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, she can put that a layaway.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
So a domestic beer at a Commander's game is sixteen
fifty Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I assume that's a tall Boy, you know, tall kens
Twenty four ounces could be twenty five. If you Penny
Brand are going with Lee, would you break down just
so people understand vernacular, could you break down just the
different beer sizes based on ounce if you could just well,
your regular standard beer is gonna be twelve twelve ounces? Yeah,
but from there, but who who's twelve ounces? Especially out
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of at a game typically typically if it's going typically
if it's a draft of beer. They'll offer you sixteen
ounce poor some do twenty twenty two ounce, But if
you're going with the can, that's a twenty four ounce.
But often they oftentimes now they they give you that
extra ounce twenty five five. Those those are tall boys.
Those are tall boys. And then you get your.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Thirty two's and your forties and and all that. It's like,
looks like we're talking about guns here.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Now, do you know or can you guess which stadium
has the cheapest beer.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Ahh, that's that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Cheapest for domestic beer because they probably I mean it's
probably somebody who want I'll say Jacksonville. I gotta think
like Atlanta with their whole push to go cheap on
food and stuff, Jacksonville is middle of the pack. Atlanta
is also somewhere in the middle, well kind of near
the near the bottom. But Jacksonville is ten dollars about
ten twenty five of beer at fifty Now the cheapest
(29:02):
is Cincinnati six eighty for all.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
No wonder they drink so much, But there was a
report that came out that Bengals fans drink more than
anybody else at games. Now I get it six bucks
for a beer that's a steal. You can't get that
anywhere nowadays for domestic beer.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
That works.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, all right, So I mean, look, you know, at least,
I mean, they're not paying their players, but at least
you know, they're not sure changing their fans on you know,
on their beer.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Maybe they should charge a little bit more and then
they could you know, hate their players. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, so so Trey Hendrickson, if you've got to gripe
against the Bengals, why don't you tell him to double
up on the prices for their domestic beers and there
won't be an issue there.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, they could double the price and still be middle
of the pack on price of beer. Sixteen fifty for
a beer to watch the Commanders. Good God for like
a Miller Lite. What else we got, lee, Guys, this
might be news for fantasy football players out there. Jalen
Warren reached a two year extension. Details quite aren't quite
(30:01):
out there yet. He's gonna still make seven million this year,
but does get twelve million guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
This probably is the last day for a lot of
fantasy football draft. I knew you had to spin on this, Yeah,
I knew you had to spin on it. Caleb Johnson
is typically going before j Warren.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I remember I was at my draft this weekend and
somebody said, uh, Jalen Warren. I said, don't you mean
Tyler Warren, the rookie tight end for for Indianapolis. They're like, no, dude,
Jalen Ward. I was all, go, yeah, I forgot about him.
He's probably pretty good value. Still, he's probably gonna be
you know, he is the starter.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So you've got now for people that are not familiar,
Lee's in, Like, how many different fantasy leagues are you
in this year?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'm in five, all right, and I've completed three. I
got two more today.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Now we do know, based on discussions with Lee on
the Morning Show two Pros and a cup of Joe
with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, who aren't here today, we
do know that in having those discussions that Lee still
owes his league money. No wait, because you are the
commissioner of the league. Everybody paid you, and then you
use the money they paid you with to spend on
(31:04):
other things, typically for.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
My other leagues. Okay, so I collect dues for my
one league, and then I use those dudes to basically
pay for my dues to the four other leagues. You're
doing a fantasy football pyramid scheme. Basically, you know, they
tried to hold my feet to the well. They don't
know exactly what I'm doing, but what we were talking
about doing is taking all the buy in money and
putting it into the stock and then you know, typically off.
(31:29):
I stop. He is the burning made off of fantasy football.
What is going on? You gotta stop. This is not
this is not. This is not a get rich plan.
Everybody with fantasy football, it's all above board. It's not.
It's not.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It's not above board because people are asking for their
money and you spend it on booze.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It's not above board. They did nothing right about this
commit The commission needs his fuel. Man, I'll pay drag
before Congress.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
But you've got you've got two other leagues you're going
to be drafting in today.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, and two other drafts.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And uh, for those who know Roberto, he's got me.
I told him not to do this, but he's starting
my draft about a half hour into my other draft.
I told him, don't do that. It's the only time
we can fool Yeah, exactly, that's what he said. And
So yeah, I got I got to basically going on
at the same time, which is a problem. Wow, all right,
Well at least Jalen warn to be available. What else
(32:21):
we got, Lee, Well, maybe some more news for those
who are interested in Tyreek Hill is not going to
be a captain on the offense for the Dolphins. He
says he still has to prove himself. So quarterback Tua,
center Aaron Brewer, and fullback alec Ingold or the current.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Captains that'll teach him. You don't get to wear see
on your jersey. Dan will teach him.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
God.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
By the way, I think they had they had an
outside linebackers coach who got arrested for a domestic dispute
earlier this weekend or something like that.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Like there was that that popped up with the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Obviously a different that's a different level of offense as
opposed to you know, Tyreek Hill not getting a captain
announcement next to his name. But I just get this
vibe that this is going to be a rough year
for the Dolphins. It's like I just I just get
this feeling that things are going to go off the
(33:11):
rails here in Miami. They already kind of have, but
you know, the Tyreek Kills stuff, they're basically raking him
over the coals, trying to get him to uh oh,
he's got to he's got to make nice.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
He's got to do this, He's got to do that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I mean, he's he's been apologetic, but you know, then
there was a report that came out that he was
talking about teammates needing to be on time and then
he was late for like stretching or It's just it
just feels like it's only a matter of time before
Tyreek killing the Dolphins have an issue again.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
You know. That seems to be the way things go
there with him. Yeah, lots of injuries still there on
the offensive side too. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a not
an ideal spot to be in.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And what you know, it's probably going to be a
runaway for the Buffalo Bills in that division.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Uh. That was the hardline News.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
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herd Line News.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
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(34:27):
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(35:16):
One of the interesting compelling games that we're going to
get to see is, you know, a couple of old
friends reintroducing themselves to each other. The Steelers and the Jets,
and you got two quarterbacks swapping places like they've swapped,
(35:36):
you know, Aaron Rodgers now Pittsburgh Steeler, Justin Fields is
now in New York Jet, And so there's been this
thought that, look, Aaron Rodgers started to play better down
the stretch last year, which he did, and based on
the production, the Steelers have added quarterbacks since Ben Roethlisberger
retired and probably actually, if you think about it, maybe
(35:56):
the second year, like two years, maybe before Ben Roethlisberger retired,
like before the last one, because the last one, I
think everybody acknowledged that he was, you know, starting to
slow down and it just wasn't the same player. But
they've not had high level production at quarterbacks since probably
the second to last year Ben Roethlisberger was there in Pittsburgh.
(36:17):
And so you look at the Aaron Rodgers signing for
the Steelers and you go, all right, well, if they
could just get that, it's a major upgrade of that
position than they've gotten. And Justin Fields reportedly had a
chance to go to the Pittsburgh steel or stay with
the Pittsburgh Steelers sign an extension there, and decided he
(36:40):
wanted to go elsewhere because the Jets had reportedly offered
him a little bit more money. And so now Justin
Fields is the quarterback with the Jets, and you're hearing
these reports about him struggling at training camp, and you know,
maybe it didn't doesn't look all that good, and there
Aaron Glenn's got a player's only practice that they called
and everything that comes along with it. You know, a
couple of weeks ago, and you've got the Jets GM
(37:04):
Darren Moogie, who was talking recently and you know, he
was asked by you know, members of the media like, hey,
you know, you've seen sort of a revival for certain
quarterbacks in the NFL. You know, guys like Baker Mayfield,
guys like Sam Darnold who have gone elsewhere and turned
into the player everybody thought they were going to be
when they were drafted high. Do you see Justin Fields
(37:26):
being one of those guys?
Speaker 7 (37:27):
I do believe Justin can be one of those guys,
and I like, like I just mentioned, I've seen the
progress during this camp and look forward to seeing the
progress throughout the season as they all come together. Obviously,
it's his third stop in three years, with three different
coordinators and a lot of moving parts, so it does
take time, but I like where it's at and I
(37:48):
look forward to watching the progress.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, so that was Jets GM Darren Moogie saying, look,
I do feel like Justin Field's can be one of
those guys. I feel like he can be like a
Baker Mayfield Sam Donald. The problem is Sam Donald was
a Jet Like that's that's the problem. Okay, Like that's
(38:11):
I feel like you've kind of identified one of the
real issues, right And I know that. Look, Aaron Glenn's there,
brand new Jets. Darren Moogie's there, it's brand new Jets.
I know because we've heard this time and time again.
All Right, we heard it, you know, with all these
different coach GM combinations, et cetera, et cetera. But him
(38:33):
talking about Justin Fields being another Sam Donald, when Sam
Donald had to become the real Sam Donald by leaving
your franchise, speaks volumes about the situation that Justin Fields
is in with Woody Johnson. There, good luck, good luck
(39:01):
like that like have fun with all that. The Baker
Mayfield comp I understand that that's that's really the one
you look at and go, all right, that could be
something there but again, those guys leave those organizations because
those organizations are ran poorly. Baker Mayfield left Cleveland because
(39:22):
Cleveland turned their back on Baker Mayfield because he struggled
during an injury filled year. Like that doesn't get talked about.
He tried to play through injuries, it didn't go well,
but Baker Mayfield had actually played to a high level
before that. They want a playoff game with Baker Mayfield
like he like he did good things in Cleveland, but
(39:46):
they thought that Deshaun Watson was going to be the
upgrade and they thought Baker Mayfield was damaged goods and
said no, no, no, we're now, We're we're where, we're finished here,
everything's fine. And what's ironic about that is that Baker
Mayfield and Sam Donald's next stops were in the same place, Carolina,
(40:07):
who also is run poorly. Which is why you got
a lot of people going like, hey man, if you're
Bryce young, just survived through this year, and hope you
get an opportunity with an organization that can develop you
the right way. Even though I like Dave Canalis, I
think he's done. I just I look at the ownership,
(40:27):
I go that's the problem. So Darren Moogie saying, yeah, well, look,
we think Justin Fields could be the next It's like, no,
Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald had to do that because
of the organizations they were in. And one of those
organizations they were in is the organization that you work for.
That's the problem. So whatever Justin Fields was decision and
(40:53):
they gave me more money, and they gave me this
and that, Like okay, but that's part of the issue.
Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald had to get away from terrible situations.
And it doesn't mean that Sam Donald is going to
go to Seattle and he's gonna continue to light it up,
like you know, one of the other guys who had
to go somewhere else to get an opportunity. You know,
(41:17):
one of those other guys is Geno Smith. Where'd Gino
Smith come from?
Speaker 5 (41:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
The Jets too?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
You don't say, God, guy, I feel like I feel
like there's a common denominator here that might be a
little part of the problem. Feel like there's a common
thread here through this whole discussion. So best of luck
to Justin Fields, but the situation he's in might dictate
his outcome, just like it did Sam Donald and just
like it did. Geno Smith Jonas knocks in for the
(41:48):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
So somebody in the world of football already feel in
the heat? Already feel in the heat? Well, explain who
that is coming up here in just a couple of
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
Of your labor day Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
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(01:09):
Sports Radio two to four pm Eastern Time, eleven am
to one pm Pacific time. And I bring up Saturday
because this past Saturday, you know, doing a show, the
Ohio State Texas game is going on, and I'm watching
the reaction to arch manning struggles and then just kind
(01:29):
of seeing maybe the overreaction to some things throughout college
football that doesn't make it this point earlier, I said, Look,
I mean, I like the fact that the College Football
Playoff gives teams an opportunity to suffer a loss, to
struggle a little bit early on.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Because it allows you to go through those difficulties and
still not be punished so much that you can't play
for something bigger. This isn't like boxing, where you would
be punished if you lost your perfect record, all right.
They're more like the UFC or like, hey, you got
a couple of losses, whatever. If you're next in line
for a title shot, you're getting a title shot, Like look,
(02:13):
whoever's next in line. You got to do the work,
But whoever's next in line, you're gonna get your opportunity.
The College Football Playoffs allowed teams to do that, so
you could lose early on in the season. You could
be a Clemson and lose and everything's going to be fine.
You could be a Notre Dame and lose to Miami
and everything's going to be fine. Christ Notre Dame lost
(02:35):
last year to Northern Illinois and still figure it out
a way to get in. Like you can be in
Ohio State and lose to Michigan and you're still going
to have an opportunity. And then there's Alabama, and then
there's Cana Debor and take it over for Dick Saban
(02:56):
and eh, you open up this year, you take on
Florida State, who won two games a year ago, and
you just get annihilated at the line of scrimmage, which
just didn't happen when Nick Saban was the coach at Alabama, right,
it just.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Looked a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And so they go into Tallahassee and get stomped out
and all of a sudden, Klein de Boris feel in
the heat and he spoke about the performance of Alabama
following the loss to Florida State that yous to believe.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
We got to go football team.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But you know, we can't play on our heels like
we're not going to be what we think we can
be what we want to be if that's the case.
And so again that falls on everyone. I don't just
put the point the finger at the players. You know
gave the I know the both sides of the ball.
I mean, you kind of know what you're gonna see,
but going into the game, but you know, with new coordinators,
(03:57):
but we gotta you know, we talked in a lot.
There's no excuse about what happened. We step on the
football field, they step on the football field, and we
got to play ball. We got to play our style
of ball. And you know last year isn't this year,
and it's going to be an uphill climb for us.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
But you can't think of it the big scope of things.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
You got to focus on the moment and the next
moment is what happens tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
That's Calin de boor the Alabama head coach following the
loss to Florida State. All of that makes sense, and
all of that is the probably the right outlook to have,
especially after losing that and as I mentioned earlier, Look,
these are difficult games, especially if you go on the road.
If you go on the road in a difficult environment
(04:41):
early on, it's what makes the LSU win so impressive.
But if you go on the road early on, I
don't care what Florida State was last year. They're not
a two win team. Like, I don't see Florida State
winning one more game the rest of the year. That's
a difficult place. Everybody's fired up. Fans have been licking
(05:03):
the lid in the parking lot for hours at that point,
probably stayed up from the night before.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
But that's a that's a fiery environment. So I look
at it.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I go, look, man, Yeah, it's a difficult loss. I
get it. But you can bounce back, much like Texas.
You can bounce back. But it's Alabama and that's the problem,
and that's the issue, and that's why there are differences here.
It's what makes college football great to where I'm not
(05:34):
condoning poisoning a tree that's been there for two hundred years. Okay,
but that happened, and it happens in college football. Did
anybody see the Alabama fan who went viral? Somebody zoomed
in on an Alabama fan as they were getting stomped
out by Florida State, and the guy just literally threw
up a middle finger. He knew he was on camera,
(05:56):
he knew it was in the stadium. He was pissed.
He was your typical Alabama fan, polo shirt, a slouch
hat with the with the bill curved so much that
you could barely see his eyes. Camera pops up on
him and he just throws them the bird. Couldn't even
care less. That's Alabama. That's that's the way they operate.
(06:21):
As somebody who worked and spent time in sec country
doing radio back in the day, somebody who's been to Alabama.
That fan base has a certain level of expectation, and
that certain level of expectation is because of Nick Saban.
He's the greatest to ever do it. And Calin de
(06:44):
Boor has taken over a near impossible job because to
be the guy after Nick Saban.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Is a real pain in the ass. It just is.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But that's a difficult task to have to take over
that job. And that's why when Caleaen de bor took
the job, was like, I get it, he's getting paid,
but damn, that's a lot to ask just to give
you an idea the level of success that Nick Saban
had at Alabama.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Just to give you an idea.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Calin de Boor already in his time at Alabama has
four losses versus unranked teams. Nick Saban had four losses
versus unranked teams in seventeen years. Like, we got a problem.
It's a problem. Okay, there's already people calling for Canada
(07:43):
Bor's job. All right, there's already the fans are already out,
they are already out.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
In full force.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
There's got to be some changes here that the things
have got it with, you know, we gotta somebody's got
to do something. This is unacceptable. And Alabama's probably going
to turn out to be a pretty good team. And look,
because of the expanded College Football Playoff, maybe Alabama's going
to bounce back, Maybe they'll go on a run in
the SEC.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Maybe everything's going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Or Alabama fans are finally realizing, yeah, that's not Nick Saban.
And it doesn't mean that Caleen Divor is not a
good coach. He did great things at Washington. It doesn't
mean he's not a good coach. He is, but that
job at that school, with that program and those expectations
is a different level.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I was born and raised in southern California. Right now,
some people will call it the Hato five, right but
I was born and raised in Thousand Oaks, California. I
liked college football growing up. I was a fan of
college football obviously, you know the great Miami teams back
in the day. I like college football, of course, the traditions,
(08:57):
all that stuff, but I didn't get college football. I
liked it, but I didn't totally get it until I
started doing radio in the South and I realize, oh god,
it's just different here.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And that's not to diminish what USC did with Matt
Lioner and Reggie Bush and those guys, and Pete Carroll,
that's not to diminish them. But even then, at the
height of USC and the dominant program that they had,
even then some of the great players and greatest teams
we've ever seen, it's not even close to what it
(09:40):
is in the South during college football season. It isn't
even not even a fraction. And we're talking about like
mid tier SEC teams like South Carolina. When I was
there and Steve Spurrier was the coach. They were okay,
they were competing for a national championship that wasn't happening,
(10:03):
but they're okay. Fan base is nuts. What do you
think Alabama's like Alabama then? And that was before Nick
Saban put together this legendary run in Tuscaloosa. That was
even then, that fan base was crazy. Like they they
(10:29):
live and breathe and die college football. That's all they
care about. So while Klein de Borr is a very
good coach who can withstand a lot of the heat
and other places in Tuscalosa, that's a tall task. That's
a really tall task. Nebraska great program, right, they couldn't
(10:53):
wait to get rid of Bopolini, and bo Polini was
winning nine games a year constantly not.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Good enough, not good enough? See you? Okay, how's that going?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I mean, Matt Ruhle, maybe he has him back to prominence,
maybe he can get him there, but that wasn't good enough.
And whatever Kaylen de Boor does short of Nick Saban
is not going to be good enough. He took on
an impossible task. He's expected to take over and replace
the greatest to ever do it. And on top of that,
(11:28):
in a place that is obsessed with that program. Obsessed.
They care about football in the South more than you
care about your kids. They are obsessed. And so whatever
Kaylen de Boor says after the game, and maybe they'll
(11:50):
bounce back, and maybe they'll respond, and maybe they'll go
on a heater, they're still going to be majority of
Alabama fans that are like, yeah, but he's not Saban,
And I got news for you. He's never going to
be Saban. He's going to feel the heat because he
took on the impossible task of replacing the greatest ever
(12:12):
do it, and more often than not, that never ends well.
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Speaker 2 (13:45):
It's a Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knox
in for Colin by the way, coming up here a
little over ten minutes from now. In the headline News
we've got a proof that there is one fan base
and one venue in the NFL that.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Goes harder than the others.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We'll get into that for you again, coming up here
a little over ten minutes from now. So Calvin Ridley
of the Tennessee Titans, he spoke recently. He was talking
with ESPN, and I don't know if you remember Calvin Ridley.
I called him the people's wide receiver because while he
was away from playing football, the guy was out there
(14:27):
doing like seven seven leg parlays and all sorts of
fun stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And I'm like, you know what, man, he's one of us.
Look at that. Guys just like us. Guy's just like us.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It's like when Christian Bale was seen driving like a
Tacoma looks like like a two thousand and five Tacoma.
If you're like, oh my, look at that. He's a celebrity.
He drives a pickup truck. Yeah, it's just like us.
Calvin Ridley out there doing seven league parlays, just like us.
But Calvin Ridley with ESPN and talked about the suspension. Quote,
(15:05):
the suspension gave me time to rest, get physically better
and mentally stronger after that year, I was ready to
come back. He talked about the gambling he took part in,
said I downloaded the apps, sitting there and not knowing
that I was breaking a rule or anything. And he
bet on two NFL games. There were two NFL games,
none on his team, I don't believe, but he bet
(15:27):
on two games. He said, hey, yeah, those are the
only two that I bet on. It's like, okay, you know,
maybe instead of like making Calvin Ridley explain himself, maybe
instead of making Calvin Ridley sit here and be criticized
and judged, Maybe instead of being a wise ass and
(15:48):
looking at Calvin Ridley and saying, you know what, man,
how could you how could you yeurinate away potentially your
NFL career? You talk about loving football as a kid
and blah blah blah. You know, maybe instead of taking
that approach, we could give Calvin Ridley a round of
applause and say, you know what, Goud was ahead of
his time like I was ahead of his time. Now
(16:11):
keep it going, man, I'm serious, and that's enough. Let's
say judgment free z own year on Fox Sports Radio,
on this show when I'm hosting, tell you why. According
to an estimate released by the American Gaming Association, NFL
betters are expected to wager approximately thirty billion dollars on
(16:32):
the league this season with legal sports books in the US.
By the way, it's not even legal in every state.
There's like twelve states that are still holding out. California
is too.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
What a shock.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Wait, what a stunner, California. Oh, he can't go. Okay,
what a stunner. Thirty billion dollars. That's an eight point
five percent increased from last year. Okay, that's what we're
talking about. Calvin really was just ahead of his time.
(17:07):
You know, he saw what was happening, just like a
lot of people saw what was happening. And when you
think about how much people are going to and look,
there's a and I get it. There are some people
who do have issues, all right, show Hey, Otani's interpreter.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
That guy had some problems, all right, got some problems.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You know, he's betting on like you know, Indian Premier
League cricket and you know horse races overseas where the
horses run backwards like it, just like like I get it, Okay,
I understand some people have a problem. And I've heard
some people say that this is concerning. If we're opening
this up, you know, people could get into financial trouble.
(17:51):
People can get it. Okay, all that's true. But I'm
not going to walk by a liquor store and say
you guys to shut down, sir or ma'am because so
and so has a drinking problem. No, I'll walk by
and say, hey, so and so's got a drinking problem.
(18:12):
But if they got cash, I mean, I don't have
to tell you, Like, somebody's got to scratch the edge.
It's not my job to tell the NFL or anybody
else or anybody that wants to partake in gambling, hey,
you shouldn't do that. And here are the pitfalls. Not
everybody falls into the open sewer that somebody took the
(18:33):
cap off of. Not everybody falls. Some people are aware, Yeah,
this could be a problem. Got to keep my eyes open,
head on a swivel. And you look at those numbers,
thirty billion dollars and it's not even legal in every
state I talked about it earlier. You saw the numbers
of the preseason. You see you saw the preseason numbers,
(18:56):
like the viewership two point two million, like up seventeen
percent on last here, et cetera, et cetera. Like you
don't think that there were some people gambling on the preseason,
there were one and Ahino.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I know because I'm one of them.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I don't think people understand and and and look, they've
welcome gambling in and I get it. There's gonna be
some athletes. I think the Cleveland Guardians, you know, they
used to be called something else. But listen, we're not
going to go down that road. Right, you can watch
Major League if you want to see that. Right, it's
a damn shame. But the Cleveland Guardians have got two
pitchers who are on leave and they're investigating, like like
(19:39):
really good pictures, and they're investigating them because they're like, man,
we really saw a spike in betting. Yeah, what was it?
You know, people betting whether or not the next pitch
was going to be a ball or a hit by pitch.
And then lo and behold, the very next pitch was
way outside, like a lot further outside than normal. Said oh, okay, yeah,
that might be an issue, that might be a problem,
(20:01):
But that doesn't mean you just stop. That doesn't mean
you to say no, no, nobody can partake. Nobody can be evolved,
and I think that the NFL and I think that
people are slowly pulling back on the restrictions. You've seen
how they've adjusted the punishments to athletes who get popped.
(20:22):
You've seen how it used to be, all everybody's gone
for a full season, or everybody's gone for six games,
then it's like, M kind kind of work with you
on this. It wasn't that long ago that Tony Romo,
before he was golfing and part time broadcasting. It wasn't
that long ago that Tony Romo wanted to set up
(20:44):
a fantasy football convention in Las Vegas, and the NFL said, no, no,
you can't, Like, we don't like the we don't like
the idea of gambling getting involved here. Ten years later,
thirty billion, thirty billion is going to be gambled on
the NFL, And I think the NFL realized there's an
(21:11):
opportunity to make money. But I think they've also realized, yeah,
there's gonna be the potential that guys are gonna go sideways,
Like there is the potential of that. You've seen it
happen in the NBA. It was it Johntay Porter, Like
you've seen listen like, yeah, there's the potential of that,
but it doesn't mean that you just get rid of
(21:32):
it for everybody. Like Calvin Ridley served his punishment, he
learned his lesson quote unquote, other guys have you know,
gotten popped for it and they've been punished for it.
But the fact that you see so many people taking part,
so many that you're looking at thirty billion up eight
point five percent, and I got news for eight point
(21:52):
five percent of thirty billion is a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
That's a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
But when you're seeing those numbers and it's still not
legal in over ten states in the country, it's only
going to get bigger. That lead we mentioned earlier the
NFL has on every single sport. Based on the ratings
that came out for preseason games, that lead's only getting bigger.
There's going to be more of this. There's going to
(22:19):
be the potential of more players coming up or popping
up that are gambling on games or partaking in games.
I don't think it's the worst thing in the world.
I'm one of those people who takes Pete Rose's side
from this standpoint, if he didn't bet against his team,
(22:41):
I do look at that different than betting on your team.
I'm sorry I do, because there's nothing wrong with supporting
your team and betting on your team. Trust me, I've
rooted for awful teams, awful teams growing up, and if
there was an opportunity to bet on him, I was
going to do it. I would never bet against him.
(23:01):
Wanted to be loyal, but I was good. So I'm
one of those people. I know it's a little crazy,
but I'm one of those people looks at it says, well,
you know, people, if he didn't bet, like I can
understand the punishments and all that, but if he didn't
bet against his team. As a manager, I think we
do look at that a little bit differently than betting
on your team. Calvin really getting punished and opening up
(23:22):
about it and all that, all these other guys that
have been punished. This stuff's gonna continue to pop up.
I got news for you. It's gonna happen. When the
Super Bowl was in Vegas a couple of years ago,
I thought it was ridiculous that the NFL is like, oh,
we're banning anybody on either team. Anybody on either team
that is seen in a casino, they'll be banned from
(23:46):
the game, Like they're talking about all these punishments, and
I remember at the point being like, so a second,
you mean to tell me if somebody walks up in
Jake Moody's playing a penny slot at the Luxor, likely
like you walk by, Hey, look it's Jake Moody. He's
playing penny slots. He's playing the double Dolphin game at
the lux Or, or Buffalo Stampede at the lux Or.
(24:09):
You mean to tell me he's not gonna be allowed
to play in the Super Bowl because he's betting on
a slot machine. And I think the NFL is starting
to loosen some of those restrictions as far as Yeah,
maybe maybe it's not the end of the world, but
it's also not the end of the gambling infusion.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
If it's thirty billion this year, it's only gonna be
more next year, especially when you've got ten plus states
that still don't allow it. This is only the tip
of the iceberg. There's gonna be more of it, and
there's probably gonna be more paranoia that comes along with it.
At the Jonas Knox on X at Jonas Knox Show
(24:51):
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like to. By the way, we are going to tell
you coming up here in a little over fifteen minutes
from now, we are going to tell you about uh,
a front office executive in the NFL who missed a
pretty obvious, pretty obvious detail of his assessment on his
(25:13):
starting quarterback. We will have that for you again here
a little over fifteen minutes from now. But right now,
it's time for the second installment of the herd Line News.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
No, no, no, this is the herd Line News.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
All right, lead to lat What do we got. By
the way, Lee, you're a degenerate, flunky gambler. You're still
betting on horse races at dive bars.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Oh yeah, that's my favorite thing to do, you know,
minimum bet.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Hey, let me just tell you something for anybody listening
across the country. I know there's there's the race tracks
all around. You want to go have a damn good
time during the NFL season, go to Santa Anita. Oh yeah,
that's a damn good time. Let's go live to our
I have a thought on gambling inside of Christopher for
the latest. I think I'm actually taking a weekend off
in October to go to del Mar for the Breeders' Cup. Yeah,
(26:04):
it just looked like that's yeah, it's uh football on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
It's just.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Santa Anita Racetrack is one of the most underrated venues
that there ready to go to. It's just a tremendous time,
especially during football season. People out there betting their life
savings on the three horse and the fourth race.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
There's nothing better. My dad learned how to drive chauffeuring
my grandfather up for carriage racing in Toledo. That's right,
Like the carriage racing is some real dirt bag stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Hey, let me tell you. Let me tell you something.
The late great Frank Pollock Fox Sports radio legendar. Frank
used to go to the go Beta races all the time.
That guy used to fish, eat terrible food, and gamble
on horses.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Nothing wrong with that. What do we got, Lee? Well,
what goes great with a little gambling on the game?
About a little cold beer? And for NFL fans, they
might be comping up a pretty penny depending on what
stadium you're going to during the game. Can you guess
which stadium has the highest priced beer? Oh? Highest priced?
(27:07):
So fine, man, just a ripoff at you I mean
it is. It is up there. It has fourteen dollars beers,
but there is a few that are a bit more
that being Levi's Stadium, which is actually also fourteen so
it's the same. But Raymond James Stadium fourteen twenty five,
Allegiance Stadium fifteen bucks. But the top and highest priced
beer is Washington Commanders at Commander's Field sixteen fifty sixteen.
(27:29):
Now are we talking domestic beers? That is a domestic beer,
because if you're gonna go ipa, you know what, is
I gonna go twenty.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Five bucks for an Inpa?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, she can put that a layaway.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
So a domestic beer at a Commander's game is sixteen
fifty Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I assume that's a tall Boy, you know, tall kens
Twenty four ounces could be twenty five. If you Penny
Brand are going with Lee, would you break down just
so people understand vernacular, could you break down just the
different beer sizes based on ounce if you could just well,
your regular standard beer is gonna be twelve twelve ounces? Yeah,
but from there, but who who's twelve ounces? Especially out
(28:05):
of at a game typically typically if it's going typically
if it's a draft of beer. They'll offer you sixteen
ounce poor some do twenty twenty two ounce, But if
you're going with the can, that's a twenty four ounce.
But often they oftentimes now they they give you that
extra ounce twenty five five. Those those are tall boys.
Those are tall boys. And then you get your.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Thirty two's and your forties and and all that. It's like,
looks like we're talking about guns here.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Now, do you know or can you guess which stadium
has the cheapest beer.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Ahh, that's that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Cheapest for domestic beer because they probably I mean it's
probably somebody who want I'll say Jacksonville. I gotta think
like Atlanta with their whole push to go cheap on
food and stuff, Jacksonville is middle of the pack. Atlanta
is also somewhere in the middle, well kind of near
the near the bottom. But Jacksonville is ten dollars about
ten twenty five of beer at fifty Now the cheapest
(29:02):
is Cincinnati six eighty for all.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
No wonder they drink so much, But there was a
report that came out that Bengals fans drink more than
anybody else at games. Now I get it six bucks
for a beer that's a steal. You can't get that
anywhere nowadays for domestic beer.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
That works.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, all right, So I mean, look, you know, at least,
I mean, they're not paying their players, but at least
you know, they're not sure changing their fans on you know,
on their beer.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Maybe they should charge a little bit more and then
they could you know, hate their players. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, so so Trey Hendrickson, if you've got to gripe
against the Bengals, why don't you tell him to double
up on the prices for their domestic beers and there
won't be an issue there.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, they could double the price and still be middle
of the pack on price of beer. Sixteen fifty for
a beer to watch the Commanders. Good God for like
a Miller Lite. What else we got, lee, Guys, this
might be news for fantasy football players out there. Jalen
Warren reached a two year extension. Details quite aren't quite
(30:01):
out there yet. He's gonna still make seven million this year,
but does get twelve million guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
This probably is the last day for a lot of
fantasy football draft. I knew you had to spin on this, Yeah,
I knew you had to spin on it. Caleb Johnson
is typically going before j Warren.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I remember I was at my draft this weekend and
somebody said, uh, Jalen Warren. I said, don't you mean
Tyler Warren, the rookie tight end for for Indianapolis. They're like, no, dude,
Jalen Ward. I was all, go, yeah, I forgot about him.
He's probably pretty good value. Still, he's probably gonna be
you know, he is the starter.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So you've got now for people that are not familiar,
Lee's in, Like, how many different fantasy leagues are you
in this year?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'm in five, all right, and I've completed three. I
got two more today.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Now we do know, based on discussions with Lee on
the Morning Show two Pros and a cup of Joe
with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, who aren't here today, we
do know that in having those discussions that Lee still
owes his league money. No wait, because you are the
commissioner of the league. Everybody paid you, and then you
use the money they paid you with to spend on
(31:04):
other things, typically for.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
My other leagues. Okay, so I collect dues for my
one league, and then I use those dudes to basically
pay for my dues to the four other leagues. You're
doing a fantasy football pyramid scheme. Basically, you know, they
tried to hold my feet to the well. They don't
know exactly what I'm doing, but what we were talking
about doing is taking all the buy in money and
putting it into the stock and then you know, typically off.
(31:29):
I stop. He is the burning made off of fantasy football.
What is going on? You gotta stop. This is not
this is not. This is not a get rich plan.
Everybody with fantasy football, it's all above board. It's not.
It's not.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It's not above board because people are asking for their
money and you spend it on booze.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It's not above board. They did nothing right about this
commit The commission needs his fuel. Man, I'll pay drag
before Congress.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
But you've got you've got two other leagues you're going
to be drafting in today.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, and two other drafts.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And uh, for those who know Roberto, he's got me.
I told him not to do this, but he's starting
my draft about a half hour into my other draft.
I told him, don't do that. It's the only time
we can fool Yeah, exactly, that's what he said. And
So yeah, I got I got to basically going on
at the same time, which is a problem. Wow, all right,
Well at least Jalen warn to be available. What else
(32:21):
we got, Lee, Well, maybe some more news for those
who are interested in Tyreek Hill is not going to
be a captain on the offense for the Dolphins. He
says he still has to prove himself. So quarterback Tua,
center Aaron Brewer, and fullback alec Ingold or the current.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Captains that'll teach him. You don't get to wear see
on your jersey. Dan will teach him.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
God.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
By the way, I think they had they had an
outside linebackers coach who got arrested for a domestic dispute
earlier this weekend or something like that.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Like there was that that popped up with the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Obviously a different that's a different level of offense as
opposed to you know, Tyreek Hill not getting a captain
announcement next to his name. But I just get this
vibe that this is going to be a rough year
for the Dolphins. It's like I just I just get
this feeling that things are going to go off the
(33:11):
rails here in Miami. They already kind of have, but
you know, the Tyreek Kills stuff, they're basically raking him
over the coals, trying to get him to uh oh,
he's got to he's got to make nice.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
He's got to do this, He's got to do that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I mean, he's he's been apologetic, but you know, then
there was a report that came out that he was
talking about teammates needing to be on time and then
he was late for like stretching or It's just it
just feels like it's only a matter of time before
Tyreek killing the Dolphins have an issue again.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
You know. That seems to be the way things go
there with him. Yeah, lots of injuries still there on
the offensive side too. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a not
an ideal spot to be in.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And what you know, it's probably going to be a
runaway for the Buffalo Bills in that division.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Uh. That was the hardline News.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
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You can get me on x at the Jonas Knox
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You know, there's a there's a front office executive in
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(34:27):
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(35:16):
One of the interesting compelling games that we're going to
get to see is, you know, a couple of old
friends reintroducing themselves to each other. The Steelers and the Jets,
and you got two quarterbacks swapping places like they've swapped,
(35:36):
you know, Aaron Rodgers now Pittsburgh Steeler, Justin Fields is
now in New York Jet, And so there's been this
thought that, look, Aaron Rodgers started to play better down
the stretch last year, which he did, and based on
the production, the Steelers have added quarterbacks since Ben Roethlisberger
retired and probably actually, if you think about it, maybe
(35:56):
the second year, like two years, maybe before Ben Roethlisberger retired,
like before the last one, because the last one, I
think everybody acknowledged that he was, you know, starting to
slow down and it just wasn't the same player. But
they've not had high level production at quarterbacks since probably
the second to last year Ben Roethlisberger was there in Pittsburgh.
(36:17):
And so you look at the Aaron Rodgers signing for
the Steelers and you go, all right, well, if they
could just get that, it's a major upgrade of that
position than they've gotten. And Justin Fields reportedly had a
chance to go to the Pittsburgh steel or stay with
the Pittsburgh Steelers sign an extension there, and decided he
(36:40):
wanted to go elsewhere because the Jets had reportedly offered
him a little bit more money. And so now Justin
Fields is the quarterback with the Jets, and you're hearing
these reports about him struggling at training camp, and you know,
maybe it didn't doesn't look all that good, and there
Aaron Glenn's got a player's only practice that they called
and everything that comes along with it. You know, a
couple of weeks ago, and you've got the Jets GM
(37:04):
Darren Moogie, who was talking recently and you know, he
was asked by you know, members of the media like, hey,
you know, you've seen sort of a revival for certain
quarterbacks in the NFL. You know, guys like Baker Mayfield,
guys like Sam Darnold who have gone elsewhere and turned
into the player everybody thought they were going to be
when they were drafted high. Do you see Justin Fields
(37:26):
being one of those guys?
Speaker 7 (37:27):
I do believe Justin can be one of those guys,
and I like, like I just mentioned, I've seen the
progress during this camp and look forward to seeing the
progress throughout the season as they all come together. Obviously,
it's his third stop in three years, with three different
coordinators and a lot of moving parts, so it does
take time, but I like where it's at and I
(37:48):
look forward to watching the progress.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, so that was Jets GM Darren Moogie saying, look,
I do feel like Justin Field's can be one of
those guys. I feel like he can be like a
Baker Mayfield Sam Donald. The problem is Sam Donald was
a Jet Like that's that's the problem. Okay, Like that's
(38:11):
I feel like you've kind of identified one of the
real issues, right And I know that. Look, Aaron Glenn's there,
brand new Jets. Darren Moogie's there, it's brand new Jets.
I know because we've heard this time and time again.
All Right, we heard it, you know, with all these
different coach GM combinations, et cetera, et cetera. But him
(38:33):
talking about Justin Fields being another Sam Donald, when Sam
Donald had to become the real Sam Donald by leaving
your franchise, speaks volumes about the situation that Justin Fields
is in with Woody Johnson. There, good luck, good luck
(39:01):
like that like have fun with all that. The Baker
Mayfield comp I understand that that's that's really the one
you look at and go, all right, that could be
something there but again, those guys leave those organizations because
those organizations are ran poorly. Baker Mayfield left Cleveland because
(39:22):
Cleveland turned their back on Baker Mayfield because he struggled
during an injury filled year. Like that doesn't get talked about.
He tried to play through injuries, it didn't go well,
but Baker Mayfield had actually played to a high level
before that. They want a playoff game with Baker Mayfield
like he like he did good things in Cleveland, but
(39:46):
they thought that Deshaun Watson was going to be the
upgrade and they thought Baker Mayfield was damaged goods and
said no, no, no, we're now, We're we're where, we're finished here,
everything's fine. And what's ironic about that is that Baker
Mayfield and Sam Donald's next stops were in the same place, Carolina,
(40:07):
who also is run poorly. Which is why you got
a lot of people going like, hey man, if you're
Bryce young, just survived through this year, and hope you
get an opportunity with an organization that can develop you
the right way. Even though I like Dave Canalis, I
think he's done. I just I look at the ownership,
(40:27):
I go that's the problem. So Darren Moogie saying, yeah, well, look,
we think Justin Fields could be the next It's like, no,
Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald had to do that because
of the organizations they were in. And one of those
organizations they were in is the organization that you work for.
That's the problem. So whatever Justin Fields was decision and
(40:53):
they gave me more money, and they gave me this
and that, Like okay, but that's part of the issue.
Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald had to get away from terrible situations.
And it doesn't mean that Sam Donald is going to
go to Seattle and he's gonna continue to light it up,
like you know, one of the other guys who had
to go somewhere else to get an opportunity. You know,
(41:17):
one of those other guys is Geno Smith. Where'd Gino
Smith come from?
Speaker 5 (41:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
The Jets too?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
You don't say, God, guy, I feel like I feel
like there's a common denominator here that might be a
little part of the problem. Feel like there's a common
thread here through this whole discussion. So best of luck
to Justin Fields, but the situation he's in might dictate
his outcome, just like it did Sam Donald and just
like it did. Geno Smith Jonas knocks in for the
(41:48):
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!
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