Colin talks to senior NFL writer Albert Breer about the start of the NFL season, the Cowboys trading Micah Parsons to the Packers, if the Dolphins season could get ugly quick, and more
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, he's a senior reporter for Monday Morning Quarterback. And
I saw that. I saw a picture on the sidelines
where Albert Breer, a dogged reporter, Big Jay journalism, is
out there with Jimmy Haslam and he had no idea
that he was actually looking ahead of the twenty twenty
seven draft, and Julian saying he thought he went there
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for Arch Manning, but the better quarterback was the Ohios
Day kid. So I mean, listen, this is interesting because
I said, watching television, I defended Ohio State. I said, listen,
if I'm Ryan Day and I'm watching, how uncomfortable Arch is.
I'm not taking any big swings. It looks like get
to midfield, which they did. Unlike you could just tell
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body language. Julian was comfortable, Arch was not. So I'll
defend Ohio state to the ends of the earth. You
were there, did you notice early how uncomfortable Arch felt it?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Luckily he didn't know exactly what he was looking at,
which is I think part of the equation for a
young quarterback. And this is why I always thought it
was silly to anoint him the number one pick in
the draft after two starts. I mean, most teams will
tell you the threshold is twenty five starts. That's where
they want a kid at at a baseline, coming in
the coming into the NFL, if they're going to be
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able to translate what they did in college to the
pro level. And the reason why is because of the
things that Arch lacks. You know, the amount of defenses
you've seen, the ability of defenses to adjust to you
after you put five or six games on tape.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
How do you CounterPunch?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's just there's so much that that you got to
build up as far as the library in your head
if you're a young quarterback to be ready for the pros.
It's just there just wasn't enough that anyone knew about
arched Manning to anoint him again a first round pick,
let alone the first overall pick in the draft. And
I think the Mannings knew that, which is one of
the reasons why they tamp down expectations. I think Arch
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is a pretty self aware kid who understood that as well.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And look, this is what he was up against on Saturday, a.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Defense that may have a handful of first round picks
on it, the coordinator who's won Super Bowls running defenses
in the NFL, and absolutely zero tape on what he
was going to do to anyone at the college level.
You know, So the Texas Longhorns came in there flying blind.
You had a young quarterback going in there without any
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idea what Ohio State was was going to throw at them,
and you know, in this particular spot before the snap,
gave no indications at all. You know, like, that's one
of the best things Ohio State did was not giving
Arch or Sark or anyone else in that Texas sideline
any clue what was going to happen after the snap,
before the snap, And so is a really tough circumstance
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for a young quarterback to walk into like one of
the that maybe the loudest I've ever heard that stadium.
So you add that into it, and I think we
can have some grace here for arch Manning, I think
he's gonna be just fine. And I think in the
fourth quartery he actually showed some resilience and making some
big time throws, one for the touchdown, of course, and
then the other the tight end down the left sideline
there near the end of the game.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So listen, I said this the last six or seven
years in when Belichick was new England is I don't
know how good he is at personnel. When you know,
the more control he had with his dog, his laptop
in Nantucket in the draft, the less talent they had
Brady was just I mean, Brady was visibly disappointed in
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his last couple of years nobody could get open. And
then he goes to the college level and I didn't
see a lot of talent last night. For Carolina. You
got three Belichicks on the staff, Mike Lombardi's son. I'm
not saying they're not capable, but he's gotten into a
point that Bill likes comfortable, he wants to work with
certain people. Well, Albert, that's not really what McVeigh does
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or Andy Reid does. Like I was shocked how bad
last night looked, were you?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, Well, there are two things really here to look at.
I mean, the first thing is you're right, like you
look at the end of New England. He became a
little bit less trusting of his scouts, which I think
is when he started to take on more and more
of the drafts onto himself. And that's when he started
overruling people, you know, drafting drafting Nikhil Harry in twenty
nineteen over the scouts who liked Deebo Samuel or aj Brown, drafting,
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you know, drafting Cole Strange in twenty twenty two over
the scouts pick which would have been at the time
Trent McDuffie. There are lots of stories like that at
the end of New England, and so yeah, I mean
I think that that's definitely part of it. You're turning
over so much of the roster, I mean, the new players,
and we're not talking about twenty five, twenty six, twenty
seven year olds coming in. We're talking about nineteen twenty
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twenty one year olds. How does that all look when
you try to put it together. You can ask Dion
about that. Dion did that two years ago at Colorado
and they went what four and eight, you know, and
then last year obviously it looked better once you had
some continuity, and then there's just the look of the
whole thing. And this was the thing that surprised me, Colin.
It wasn't that they lost. I thought they'd lose. I
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thought TCU was going to beat them, because I think
TCU is a better program right now. What surprised me
was what the third quarter looked like. Like that looked
like bad news bears ish And maybe I'm dating myself
a little bit there with that reference, but no, I
mean like it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Turned it off mid and third quarter. I turned it off.
It was so bad it was.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I mean like it was the seventy five yard run
right out of the locker room, right for a touchdown.
Then TCU converts a third and twenty with a throw
right down Main Street, you know, to that tight end,
and they convert that third and twenty. And then on
the very next play, another long touchdown run, this one
for twenty eight yards, untouched that running back. No North
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Carolina player later at hand on that running back, and
then almost immediately after that you had the fumble, scoop
and score.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
It's just it wasn't that they got beat. It wasn't
even the margin. It was the look of it there
in the third quarter.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
That really, like, I mean wow, like that, Like I
just don't remember seeing a Bill Belichick team look that way,
and for whatever reason it happened. I mean, They've obviously
got a lot to clean up. They've got some time
to do it. But like, I've been really curious to
see how Belichick's program would look when it's applied to
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younger kids, to nineteen twenty twenty one year olds, And
obviously last night didn't look great.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So I went the other way. I would have either
signed or moved Micah a year ago. I'm going to
give the Cowboys a credit for flexibility. Yeah, that their
cakes not made Green Bay. Mike icing the cake's great.
Dallas the cakes in disarray. And I think, if you're
going to spend forty seven million, I need a leader
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in the clubhouse. I need a great locker room guy.
I need the best guy in the training facility. That's
not what Mike is. I like four first round picks,
one of them. Next year, I'm drafting a quarterback. Dallas
got crushed by everybody. I wasn't deeply bothered by it.
Were you?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I think I'm in alignment with you on this and
that like my biggest problem with it was the timing. Yeah,
you know, like you said, Like I they started to
have these big picture conversations in April after you know,
the negotiation there with Micah failed, and like I agree
with what they've done here with the big picture of
conversation they were having, which was, we are I think
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it's top ten maybe top eight in the NFL and
wins over the last thirty years, yet we have not
been to a conference title game in that period, which
is the third longest rout in the NFL right now.
Only the Dolphins and Browns haven't been to a conference
championship game in over a longer period. So I think
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it caused them to look inward, you know, and how
come we've been pretty good, but we're not great and
we've never able to put it over the top. And
I think some of that reflection brought them to a
place where it was if we trade Micah, what are
we going to do with that? And like the answer became, like,
let's lean into what Brian Schottenheimer's trying to build. He's
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used this phrase the greatest culture in professional sports. Now,
maybe that's hyperbole, but that's what he's looking to build.
And I think that's reflected in the trade, right, Like
they had a half dozen teams that were involved, and
you know, so they wind up, you know, picking the
Packers package, which had the two first round picks. But really,
like the key to me was the player that they selected,
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the player that they wanted, the player that they asked
for is Kenny Clark. And the Packers were a little
surprised by that, just in that like, wouldn't you ask
for an edge player.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Wouldn't you ask for a Van Ness or a Rashaan Gary,
you know.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
And the answer I got when I asked Dallas about
that was we wanted to help the run defense, which
they've said, but they also wanted to bring in a pro,
like a grown up and Kenny Clark. I can tell
you the Packers were heartbroken to let them go. Now,
they had to do this right, but they were heartbroken
to let him go. And that's because the person, the leader,
the pro that he is, and that's what Dallas is
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leaning into now. So this is sort of a bigger
reimagination of what they are that they think's going to be,
that they think's going to work to empower guys like
Dak Prescott in the locker room and look like I
think the biggest criticism I can have them here is
the timing of it, because if you do this before
the draft A, there are more teams involved. Because at
this point the calendar, teams have their roster set, their
budgets set, their cap set. It's harder for teams to
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get involved in something like this. So you're gonna have
a bigger pool of candidates looking at Michael Parsons if
you do this in April, and you'll also have one
of those players on your roster now, like you if
you're training for a first round ticking April, well, then
that guy is on your team right now. So I
think you can definitely criticize them for the timing of it.
They could have elevated things back in April and brought
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those tension points back then where you know you find
out whether or not Mike is going to be signable
or not, and then you know you have a bigger
pool of teams that you're picking from, and you're going
to have another player on your roster that you don't now.
But the big texture stuff I actually think is pretty Sound.
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Speaker 1 (11:08):
Okay, So I don't think Matt Mosey told me this
a while back. He said, Jerry doesn't have a ton
of respect for coaches, and you can see it and
who he's let go and who he's he tends to
hire guys that need him, you know, like yeah, that
don't have a lot of offers. And I think that
was a fair commentary. So I think for the year,
Brian Shott, Number's safe. I don't think it's going to
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be good. The Miami situation, Tyreek Hill not named captain.
If I if I suggested to you a team started
oh and two or oh and three and it could
get ugly fast, is Miami on that list?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Miami's interesting because I think there's a chance that they
create a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I I just look at their roster.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Colin, and I may have said this to you before,
but I like to do this thing where when I
look at a team's roster, I say, who's going to
be there two years from now?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
How many guys on Miami's roster could you name right
now that you know are going to be there in
twenty twenty seven?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Not all?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I mean I think I think I think Jalen Waddell
will be there in twenty twenty seven. I think Chop
Robinson will be there in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Can you name him? Name another one? Maybe Tua?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Like there just aren't a lot, right, I could see
them moving Tua to get draft picks and start over.
I really good.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, So, I mean, like that list is really short
because of, you know, some of the things that have
happened with some of their older players, and they've moved
on from some guys, and you know, I think that
that that core that they built for the window that
you have with with Tua's rookie contract that they aged out,
you know, and so now they're in this sort of
subtle reset where they you know, they've got Patrick Paul
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second round pick from from last year at left tackle,
and you know, on the edges they had the older
guys Chubb and Phillips get hurt. Jalen Ram he's gone,
Toront Armstead's gone. You know, they're just sort of in
this in this in this reset.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh by the way, New England maybe the most improved
team in the league. So the divisions and the Jets
have talent. So the Jets have talent. So I just
look at this like, you're going through this reset now.
And I love Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
As as as as as a coach, as an offensive mind,
but if you are going to go into a more
thorough rebuild after this year, yeah, like then you're starting
to ask You're starting to ask big picture questions like
who's going to lead the rebuild? You know, and and
this you know involves a general manager too. I think
those are all big picture questions that you're asking if
you're going through a reset, and I think this is
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the front end of their reset. So Mike mcdanie's just
signed an extension last year, so it's not going to
be it's not nothing to walk away from him.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But if things go poorly at the start of.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
The year, then yeah, I mean, I think you could
definitely see where maybe some of the questions that will
be asked after the year get accelerated a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, And finally, Albert Breer Monday Morning quarterback, I said,
the Minnesota Chicago game is so fascinating. I don't know
what JJ McCarthy is. I cannot wait to watch Kayleb
Williams and Ben Jonson. I think Minnesota's got a better roster.
I'd probably take them as a favorite. About before I
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went in my very brief vacation jmack very brief.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Labor intention this time of year two.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I said, if you look at that schedule, they don't
do well in division. The Bears haven't done well in
division in over a decade. I said, I'll give them
three and three in division. All give them three and three.
And I got nine wins out of this puppy. There's
some there's some unwinnable games at Philadelphia's rough at Baltimore listen,
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I mean there's just there's a lot of San Francisco
at the end.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Of the year when they're young players have grown up
a little bit tough.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, yeah, I was positive Colin. I gave him nine
Where are you with them? When you look at that
where are you? And I thought I was, I said,
five hundred? In division, they don't do that.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, I mean it's a tough division for sure. Like
I think you look at that schedule, You're playing the
AFC North, which is a really tough draw, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I mean like if you're the Bears, I think
the idea is going to be or ascending by the
end of the year. And so what does that mean, Well,
that means you get your tackle situation worked out, right,
Like you got you figured out whether you left tackles
Braxton Jones or Ozzie Trapillo or Darnell Right moving over
from right to left. Caleb Williams is starting to play
well in Ben Johnson's offense. You figured that out. He's
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playing fast, he's getting the ball out. Romadunze is evolving
into a legitimate number one receiver.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Luther Burden's giving you.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Something on offense, and Dennis Allen has the defense rolling
you figured out the edge hop to sit Montese sweat
with a combination of different guys. So I think there
is a world where you can get them over five hundred.
But because of the division that they play in, it's
a tough ask. And because the schedule we have again
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it's a tough ask. Having to play the other North
Division makes it difficult.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
So I would say, like.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
If I'm a Chicago fan, what I'm looking for as
an ascending team at the end of the year with
a quarterback he's playing well.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I think if you get there, you feel really good
about where you are Under Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, they got some tough roadies, great stuff. Albert Breer.
Both of us, by the way, spend a little bit
of our summer in the Northeast. But the minute the
fall smell comes back, the sunset shortened, Brear and I
are back to journalism.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
No messing around, that's right, only business here, Colin.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's right, we stand on business. Albert Brern myself Monday morning, quarterback.
Good see anybody all right?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Going.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah that Ohio State, Texas, Notre Dame, Miami, Clemson LSU
was a clunker last night. But we had a heck
of a weekend. God, that was good. A little worried
about Michigan, Little. I don't like what I see with Michigan.
It's too much vacationing for you. Michigan is gonna be fine. Okay,
we'll see live in La It's the Herd.
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Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'm telling you that college football schedule over delivered this weekend.
Over delivered Clemson LSU. I thought Clemson at home, Cave Kludnick.
Would you'd be like, oh, okay, they'll they'll win by ten.
Alabama complete no show. And here's the thing. Can I
throw my theory out? What's happened? So the SEC is fine,
but the two powerhouses are both the Texas schools A
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and M and the Longhorns. Why because the Texas economy.
This is why Nick Saban. Nick Saban knew when he
played Sark the first time. He's like, they're bigger than us,
and we don't have Texas money. We got Alabama money.
I mean, the biggest booster I think in Alabama is
Bear Bryant's son. So they don't have the kind of
money when you looked at Alabama, they're big, but they
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didn't look extraordinary. They could not run the ball. They
quit running the ball. Florida State had better players, and
so Florida State has always been super talented, Like say
what you want. They had Little Tizzy Fit a couple
of years ago. But Florida State's a good program. Bobby
Bowden on nor Veal, they're good coaches. But I'm looking
at Alabama. You can't fire Klin to Bore. You have
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to be a seventy million dollar check and then you
have to spend another eighty to get the next coach.
Alabama has acknowledged they're struggling to keep up at twelve
million a year on nil. They don't have that kind
of money. They had the best one of the best
left tackle in college football and Proctor he's projected to
be like a top ten pick.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
And they couldn't run the football at all. Kind of
not good. By the way, you mentioned the schedule. So
the best game this weekend, there's only one that I
can tell with the top twenty five Michigan.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oklahoma in Norman like. I like Oklahoma. Oklahoma's favored by
five and a half. I like Oklahoma. Worried about Michigan.
Plus they have I don't know if you've seen USC's
run game. Seriously, Okay, I'll just say, not going to
go crazy on this. I want to be a journalist,
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but just check out the running back room at USC
this year. Seriously, what does he go? Thirteen deep? Just
kept putting new guys in and knocking ten yards of carry.
Jmack with a news turned on the news.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
This is the herd line news.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Back on the USC bandwagon.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Love it.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Let's get started with Josh Allen Colin. He was the
MVV last season, came up a little short against the
Chiefs and the referees the AFC Championship Game. Entering the season,
obviously it's Super Bowl or bust for Buffalo Vegas has
the Bills favored in all seventeen games.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
They are tied for the.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Best Super Bowl odds with the Ravens at plus six hundred.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Colin, where are you Bills Ravens? By the way, in
the opener? Which is the best game of the first weekend? Please?
I would take Buffalo. It's at home. You know, whoever
was home, I would take him in that game. Well,
I think that's I think that's as good as any
game this week. And I think if I said to you,
upset alert, I really worry about the Rams. The left
tackle just started practicing against Will Anderson trouble.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Let me go back real quick to the Bills. So
we're told it's a wide receiver league. Right now, who's
the best receiver on the Bills? Slot receiver from Boise
Station Kire? Yeah, that's it. Well, they got the keyon
Coleman from last year.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Come on, what is he is?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
They have two very good tight ends. James cocu is happy,
and I'm just everybody loves wide receivers.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
You gotta pay justin Jefferson and jam Artis. I think
the league is slowly shifting away from wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I mean, you could argue Kansas City, the Chargers, the Bills,
and the Ravens are feel like they I mean Kansas City.
I can't say that Raiders have gone to the run game. Well,
the Chargers wide receiver depth chard I think they just
announced it. And Keenan Allen, who was like not even
on a team three months ago, is now back starting
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all the running game. The renaissance, there's clearly a pivot,
at least in the AFC, back to the run. Well,
Detroit drafting Jamior Gibbs, they're a run team first. By
the way, the Packers don't have a clear one. They've
got a lot of good receivers, and I think that's
the new model.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
We don't want to pay one guy like the Bengals
are stuck paying two guys all of the money. They
don't have balance, and I think that would be my thing.
Look at the Bills that they win the Super Bowl
this year without a wide receiver.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
I think it's really interesting.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Let's move on to a certain Niners quarterback, Brock Purty.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Your boy, he enters the season, he's now rich, he's
rich rich.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I want you to read this, read this headline. It's
interesting story developing well, okay, so the athletic, your favorite,
excellent excellent athletic is a very trustable company, so.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
They are reporting. Rival executives are skeptical. The Niners can
build around Perdy making all of that money, so easiest
schedule in the league.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
They'll be fine this year. But the division is getting tasty.
Arizona is probably I'll tell you my favorite pick of
the weekend, maybe Arizona. Now the number's gone up to
like six and a half. Arizona's gonna thump the Saints.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Well they're in New Orleans, Yeah, against Kellen Moren.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Who Dadler, that's trailing twenty seven to three. That's who
it is. But in all seriousness, so they move off
Deebo Samuel. They did pay Ayuk, but he's gonna be
out for like at least the first six weeks. I
don't have as much concern about this. You just have
to draft better. You can't with on on like Trey
Lancey wish on him. No, I mean yeah, and I
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think I felt like the last couple of years Shanahan
has had a lot of sand personnel. I don't necessarily
love it. I like it. By the way, the fantasy
guys out there, love Pearsaw this year? Where are you
on the young guy who didn't show much last year?
But he's a two and he's a two okay, Juwan Jennings,
he's a two. George Kittle, he's an All World first
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ballot Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
And I mentioned McCaffrey is healthy and ready to rush and.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
They're going to win games. I'm not denying that, but
you're you're talking about a team defensively. When Bosa's misses
three games, it is Fred Warner and a lot of
and a lot of meh.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
In Robert Salah. I trust by the way, his Jets
defenses were great. That wasn't the problem. I like saw.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I like solving a major upgrade at coordinator defense.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Who's got a better one two punch of coaches than
Shanahan and slav.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Not a lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Minnesota's got the best staff, but they're up there. I
love Kevin O'Connor Kenny.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
What a playoff game before we see Frank Floords gets
run out of Miami.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Because he fights with his court. Can we just take
a deep breath just like me with arch spanning final story,
it's college football, Colin. It was an outstanding Week one
and the new AP Top three. When I see this
is out, it just came out.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Hot off the presses, the buck Eye's are number one,
fifty five votes, Penn State two.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
It's a big ten world. We just live in it.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
LSU vaults to three after the win at Clemson. Yeah,
let's see here. Texas only slides down to seven, which
is a little surprise. Clemson only at eight after losing
at home Illinois a little. Oh, you like Illinois a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I think Florida State deserves more respect than that.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
For the win over Alabama, Yeah, you're probably right. Anything
surprised you there. By the way, you have to look
down to twenty one to see your guy, Kaitlin de
Boor at Alabama.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Well, you're not getting rid of him all that saving.
They're definitely not getting rid of not getting rid of him.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Also, hot off the presses, we have a full screen
comparing Sabin to Deboor. Listen, I know you're gonna pile
on Alabama. I'm not piling on I'm being reasonable, Colin.
The under five hundred is highlighted. Saban was never under
five hundred and anything.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But remember that a couple bad losses Nick Saban knew
when to get out. That's half the battle. The NIL
exploded and he knows Bama doesn't have that kind of money.
Colin nick Saban in seventeen seasons had four unranked losses.
Kalin de Wor already has four, but they're coming for
him big time. Well, the NIL has actually saved SEC coaches.
(25:42):
You can't bail on these guys. The Alabama cannot afford
one hundred and fifty million in firing one staff and
hiring another. They cannot afford it. They can't if they
I don't know where it's coming from. Their athletic director
was basically saying six months ago, we really need the
help of our fan base.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Forget the fans, what about the players? Nick Saban put
a billion guys in the NFL. You can't hit up
Derreck Henry for some money. What about all those wide
receivers getting paid like they have? So many guys Alabama's.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Not giving that.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Let me look at that.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Let me look at that again. When's the last time Miami,
the Kids, Simpson, Florida, and Florida State were all in
the top fifteen two thousand and six preseason. How about that?
I think Florida State's a little undervalued there. South Carolina
is interesting. I watched that quarterback. He's pretty clod I love.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The kids huts.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Yeah, he's pretty liking with the jets. Florida Gators have
such a brutal schedule. They have land mines everywhere. But
I think get optimistic.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I cannot wait. Once again, where's USC scored seventy three points?
Speaker 8 (26:47):
Who did have? Like directional university.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Means a very pesky program from one of the states
in the middle of the country.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
Yeah, maybe like North Dakota staters.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
No, I think it was in I don't know where
it was, RoAF Tech. I think it was Missouri, and
Missouri is a good football state, so you know it
was a good program. They beat Missouri State. Was it
Southwest Missouri State or was this Missouri State? All right,
somebody told me Sisters of the Blind, but I'm not certain.
That's Alabama's lowest ranking since two thousand and eight, and
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I'm sure they're taking it well.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
I mean, it wasn't a close game, that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It was a beatdown.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
I think you called me in the middle of that
and you were like, are you watching this?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I was like, no, I expected Alibama wasn't even these
they couldn't move the ball. That was Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Lie. We'll say this.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I think Ohio State's win is more impressive that are
getting credit for because I think Julian Sands a really
good talented kid and looked really comfortable. But I think
Ryan Day was on that sideline because I could see
this and you could see this on TV. I think
he was on that sideline and he was watching the
first two series. He was watching arch Manning's feet and
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body language and motion and he and they were getting
a couple of bad field position possessions. And I think
I think he's like guys. I think Ryan Day after
the second series just said we don't need to take
let's let's alter our game plan. Let's go super conservative here.
And I think it was the right day, right move.
(28:21):
And Ryan Day came on earlier and he admitted they
went a little conservative with their quarterback.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
As you know, Julian, you know matures. You know, well,
we'll start, you know, opening it up, but we didn't
want to turn the ball over down there and put
our defense in a bad spot, and that's one of
the first things in our plan to win is play
great defense. And a part of playing great defense is
sometimes making sure you play the field position game. Now,
we don't love that, you know, in terms of you know,
we want to be explosive, we want to open this
thing up, we want to score a ton of points,
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which which you know.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
But at the end of the day, the number one
goal in a game like this was to win.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And yeah they did. I thought he was really good.
I think it's funny lost in that game was how
good Julian Sayan was very composed. I don't know. You know, listen,
you can defend Ohio State differently than last year because
Ohio State's running back room last year was insane. It's
like Penn States is this year or Notre Dames is
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this year, so it was really hard. He couldn't cheat
on Ohio State. So I don't think Jeremiah Smith is
going to be You're gonna have to figure out ways
to use him, put him in motion different sets because
people are going to just roll coverage over. Texas certainly did,
but I thought Ohio States win was impressive.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
I gotta chie in here, Collent, I'm sorry. I just
looked at the box score. You said Julian Sane had
a great game, Like he's a great game.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
He looked in that space against world class athletes. I
thought he and the world was watching. I thought he
looked very comfortable, good feet, good mechanics, very consistent. He
was thirteen or twenty four, one hundred and twenty six
yards six point three yards per attempt. I mean again,
he was they got he had two drops and he
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had bad field, Like, yeah, no, he don't blame it
all on him. I thought he looked composed, and that's
all I was caring about.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, he's a senior reporter for Monday Morning Quarterback. And
I saw that. I saw a picture on the sidelines
where Albert Breer, a dogged reporter, Big Jay journalism, is
out there with Jimmy Haslam and he had no idea
that he was actually looking ahead of the twenty twenty
seven draft, and Julian saying he thought he went there
(00:45):
for Arch Manning, but the better quarterback was the Ohios
Day kid. So I mean, listen, this is interesting because
I said, watching television, I defended Ohio State. I said, listen,
if I'm Ryan Day and I'm watching, how uncomfortable Arch is.
I'm not taking any big swings. It looks like get
to midfield, which they did. Unlike you could just tell
(01:06):
body language. Julian was comfortable, Arch was not. So I'll
defend Ohio state to the ends of the earth. You
were there, did you notice early how uncomfortable Arch felt it?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Luckily he didn't know exactly what he was looking at,
which is I think part of the equation for a
young quarterback. And this is why I always thought it
was silly to anoint him the number one pick in
the draft after two starts. I mean, most teams will
tell you the threshold is twenty five starts. That's where
they want a kid at at a baseline, coming in
the coming into the NFL, if they're going to be
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able to translate what they did in college to the
pro level. And the reason why is because of the
things that Arch lacks. You know, the amount of defenses
you've seen, the ability of defenses to adjust to you
after you put five or six games on tape.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
How do you CounterPunch?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's just there's so much that that you got to
build up as far as the library in your head
if you're a young quarterback to be ready for the pros.
It's just there just wasn't enough that anyone knew about
arched Manning to anoint him again a first round pick,
let alone the first overall pick in the draft. And
I think the Mannings knew that, which is one of
the reasons why they tamp down expectations. I think Arch
(02:20):
is a pretty self aware kid who understood that as well.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And look, this is what he was up against on Saturday, a.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Defense that may have a handful of first round picks
on it, the coordinator who's won Super Bowls running defenses
in the NFL, and absolutely zero tape on what he
was going to do to anyone at the college level.
You know, So the Texas Longhorns came in there flying blind.
You had a young quarterback going in there without any
(02:47):
idea what Ohio State was was going to throw at them,
and you know, in this particular spot before the snap,
gave no indications at all. You know, like, that's one
of the best things Ohio State did was not giving
Arch or Sark or anyone else in that Texas sideline
any clue what was going to happen after the snap,
before the snap, And so is a really tough circumstance
(03:09):
for a young quarterback to walk into like one of
the that maybe the loudest I've ever heard that stadium.
So you add that into it, and I think we
can have some grace here for arch Manning, I think
he's gonna be just fine. And I think in the
fourth quartery he actually showed some resilience and making some
big time throws, one for the touchdown, of course, and
then the other the tight end down the left sideline
there near the end of the game.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So listen, I said this the last six or seven
years in when Belichick was new England is I don't
know how good he is at personnel. When you know,
the more control he had with his dog, his laptop
in Nantucket in the draft, the less talent they had
Brady was just I mean, Brady was visibly disappointed in
(03:52):
his last couple of years nobody could get open. And
then he goes to the college level and I didn't
see a lot of talent last night. For Carolina. You
got three Belichicks on the staff, Mike Lombardi's son. I'm
not saying they're not capable, but he's gotten into a
point that Bill likes comfortable, he wants to work with
certain people. Well, Albert, that's not really what McVeigh does
(04:14):
or Andy Reid does. Like I was shocked how bad
last night looked, were you?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, Well, there are two things really here to look at.
I mean, the first thing is you're right, like you
look at the end of New England. He became a
little bit less trusting of his scouts, which I think
is when he started to take on more and more
of the drafts onto himself. And that's when he started
overruling people, you know, drafting drafting Nikhil Harry in twenty
nineteen over the scouts who liked Deebo Samuel or aj Brown, drafting,
(04:44):
you know, drafting Cole Strange in twenty twenty two over
the scouts pick which would have been at the time
Trent McDuffie. There are lots of stories like that at
the end of New England, and so yeah, I mean
I think that that's definitely part of it. You're turning
over so much of the roster, I mean, the new players,
and we're not talking about twenty five, twenty six, twenty
seven year olds coming in. We're talking about nineteen twenty
(05:05):
twenty one year olds. How does that all look when
you try to put it together. You can ask Dion
about that. Dion did that two years ago at Colorado
and they went what four and eight, you know, and
then last year obviously it looked better once you had
some continuity, and then there's just the look of the
whole thing. And this was the thing that surprised me, Colin.
It wasn't that they lost. I thought they'd lose. I
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thought TCU was going to beat them, because I think
TCU is a better program right now. What surprised me
was what the third quarter looked like. Like that looked
like bad news bears ish And maybe I'm dating myself
a little bit there with that reference, but no, I
mean like it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Turned it off mid and third quarter. I turned it off.
It was so bad it was.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I mean like it was the seventy five yard run
right out of the locker room, right for a touchdown.
Then TCU converts a third and twenty with a throw
right down Main Street, you know, to that tight end,
and they convert that third and twenty. And then on
the very next play, another long touchdown run, this one
for twenty eight yards, untouched that running back. No North
(06:05):
Carolina player later at hand on that running back, and
then almost immediately after that you had the fumble, scoop
and score.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
It's just it wasn't that they got beat. It wasn't
even the margin. It was the look of it there
in the third quarter.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
That really, like, I mean wow, like that, Like I
just don't remember seeing a Bill Belichick team look that way,
and for whatever reason it happened. I mean, They've obviously
got a lot to clean up. They've got some time
to do it. But like, I've been really curious to
see how Belichick's program would look when it's applied to
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younger kids, to nineteen twenty twenty one year olds, And
obviously last night didn't look great.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So I went the other way. I would have either
signed or moved Micah a year ago. I'm going to
give the Cowboys a credit for flexibility. Yeah, that their
cakes not made Green Bay. Mike icing the cake's great.
Dallas the cakes in disarray. And I think, if you're
going to spend forty seven million, I need a leader
(07:07):
in the clubhouse. I need a great locker room guy.
I need the best guy in the training facility. That's
not what Mike is. I like four first round picks,
one of them. Next year, I'm drafting a quarterback. Dallas
got crushed by everybody. I wasn't deeply bothered by it.
Were you?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I think I'm in alignment with you on this and
that like my biggest problem with it was the timing. Yeah,
you know, like you said, Like I they started to
have these big picture conversations in April after you know,
the negotiation there with Micah failed, and like I agree
with what they've done here with the big picture of
conversation they were having, which was, we are I think
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it's top ten maybe top eight in the NFL and
wins over the last thirty years, yet we have not
been to a conference title game in that period, which
is the third longest rout in the NFL right now.
Only the Dolphins and Browns haven't been to a conference
championship game in over a longer period. So I think
(08:10):
it caused them to look inward, you know, and how
come we've been pretty good, but we're not great and
we've never able to put it over the top. And
I think some of that reflection brought them to a
place where it was if we trade Micah, what are
we going to do with that? And like the answer became, like,
let's lean into what Brian Schottenheimer's trying to build. He's
(08:30):
used this phrase the greatest culture in professional sports. Now,
maybe that's hyperbole, but that's what he's looking to build.
And I think that's reflected in the trade, right, Like
they had a half dozen teams that were involved, and
you know, so they wind up, you know, picking the
Packers package, which had the two first round picks. But really,
like the key to me was the player that they selected,
(08:51):
the player that they wanted, the player that they asked
for is Kenny Clark. And the Packers were a little
surprised by that, just in that like, wouldn't you ask
for an edge player.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Wouldn't you ask for a Van Ness or a Rashaan Gary,
you know.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
And the answer I got when I asked Dallas about
that was we wanted to help the run defense, which
they've said, but they also wanted to bring in a pro,
like a grown up and Kenny Clark. I can tell
you the Packers were heartbroken to let them go. Now,
they had to do this right, but they were heartbroken
to let him go. And that's because the person, the leader,
the pro that he is, and that's what Dallas is
(09:27):
leaning into now. So this is sort of a bigger
reimagination of what they are that they think's going to be,
that they think's going to work to empower guys like
Dak Prescott in the locker room and look like I
think the biggest criticism I can have them here is
the timing of it, because if you do this before
the draft A, there are more teams involved. Because at
this point the calendar, teams have their roster set, their
budgets set, their cap set. It's harder for teams to
(09:50):
get involved in something like this. So you're gonna have
a bigger pool of candidates looking at Michael Parsons if
you do this in April, and you'll also have one
of those players on your roster now, like you if
you're training for a first round ticking April, well, then
that guy is on your team right now. So I
think you can definitely criticize them for the timing of it.
They could have elevated things back in April and brought
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those tension points back then where you know you find
out whether or not Mike is going to be signable
or not, and then you know you have a bigger
pool of teams that you're picking from, and you're going
to have another player on your roster that you don't now.
But the big texture stuff I actually think is pretty Sound.
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Speaker 1 (11:08):
Okay, So I don't think Matt Mosey told me this
a while back. He said, Jerry doesn't have a ton
of respect for coaches, and you can see it and
who he's let go and who he's he tends to
hire guys that need him, you know, like yeah, that
don't have a lot of offers. And I think that
was a fair commentary. So I think for the year,
Brian Shott, Number's safe. I don't think it's going to
(11:31):
be good. The Miami situation, Tyreek Hill not named captain.
If I if I suggested to you a team started
oh and two or oh and three and it could
get ugly fast, is Miami on that list?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Miami's interesting because I think there's a chance that they
create a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I I just look at their roster.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Colin, and I may have said this to you before,
but I like to do this thing where when I
look at a team's roster, I say, who's going to
be there two years from now?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
How many guys on Miami's roster could you name right
now that you know are going to be there in
twenty twenty seven?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Not all?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I mean I think I think I think Jalen Waddell
will be there in twenty twenty seven. I think Chop
Robinson will be there in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Can you name him? Name another one? Maybe Tua?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Like there just aren't a lot, right, I could see
them moving Tua to get draft picks and start over.
I really good.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, So, I mean, like that list is really short
because of, you know, some of the things that have
happened with some of their older players, and they've moved
on from some guys, and you know, I think that
that that core that they built for the window that
you have with with Tua's rookie contract that they aged out,
you know, and so now they're in this sort of
subtle reset where they you know, they've got Patrick Paul
(12:51):
second round pick from from last year at left tackle,
and you know, on the edges they had the older
guys Chubb and Phillips get hurt. Jalen Ram he's gone,
Toront Armstead's gone. You know, they're just sort of in
this in this in this reset.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh by the way, New England maybe the most improved
team in the league. So the divisions and the Jets
have talent. So the Jets have talent. So I just
look at this like, you're going through this reset now.
And I love Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
As as as as as a coach, as an offensive mind,
but if you are going to go into a more
thorough rebuild after this year, yeah, like then you're starting
to ask You're starting to ask big picture questions like
who's going to lead the rebuild? You know, and and
this you know involves a general manager too. I think
those are all big picture questions that you're asking if
you're going through a reset, and I think this is
(13:43):
the front end of their reset. So Mike mcdanie's just
signed an extension last year, so it's not going to
be it's not nothing to walk away from him.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But if things go poorly at the start of.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
The year, then yeah, I mean, I think you could
definitely see where maybe some of the questions that will
be asked after the year get accelerated a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, And finally, Albert Breer Monday Morning quarterback, I said,
the Minnesota Chicago game is so fascinating. I don't know
what JJ McCarthy is. I cannot wait to watch Kayleb
Williams and Ben Jonson. I think Minnesota's got a better roster.
I'd probably take them as a favorite. About before I
(14:22):
went in my very brief vacation jmack very brief.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Labor intention this time of year two.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I said, if you look at that schedule, they don't
do well in division. The Bears haven't done well in
division in over a decade. I said, I'll give them
three and three in division. All give them three and three.
And I got nine wins out of this puppy. There's
some there's some unwinnable games at Philadelphia's rough at Baltimore listen,
(14:54):
I mean there's just there's a lot of San Francisco
at the end.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Of the year when they're young players have grown up
a little bit tough.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, yeah, I was positive Colin. I gave him nine
Where are you with them? When you look at that
where are you? And I thought I was, I said,
five hundred? In division, they don't do that.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, I mean it's a tough division for sure. Like
I think you look at that schedule, You're playing the
AFC North, which is a really tough draw, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I mean like if you're the Bears, I think
the idea is going to be or ascending by the
end of the year. And so what does that mean, Well,
that means you get your tackle situation worked out, right,
Like you got you figured out whether you left tackles
Braxton Jones or Ozzie Trapillo or Darnell Right moving over
from right to left. Caleb Williams is starting to play
well in Ben Johnson's offense. You figured that out. He's
(15:46):
playing fast, he's getting the ball out. Romadunze is evolving
into a legitimate number one receiver.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Luther Burden's giving you.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Something on offense, and Dennis Allen has the defense rolling
you figured out the edge hop to sit Montese sweat
with a combination of different guys. So I think there
is a world where you can get them over five hundred.
But because of the division that they play in, it's
a tough ask. And because the schedule we have again
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it's a tough ask. Having to play the other North
Division makes it difficult.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
So I would say, like.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
If I'm a Chicago fan, what I'm looking for as
an ascending team at the end of the year with
a quarterback he's playing well.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I think if you get there, you feel really good
about where you are Under Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, they got some tough roadies, great stuff. Albert Breer.
Both of us, by the way, spend a little bit
of our summer in the Northeast. But the minute the
fall smell comes back, the sunset shortened, Brear and I
are back to journalism.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
No messing around, that's right, only business here, Colin.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's right, we stand on business. Albert Brern myself Monday morning, quarterback.
Good see anybody all right?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Going.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah that Ohio State, Texas, Notre Dame, Miami, Clemson LSU
was a clunker last night. But we had a heck
of a weekend. God, that was good. A little worried
about Michigan, Little. I don't like what I see with Michigan.
It's too much vacationing for you. Michigan is gonna be fine. Okay,
we'll see live in La It's the Herd.
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Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'm telling you that college football schedule over delivered this weekend.
Over delivered Clemson LSU. I thought Clemson at home, Cave Kludnick.
Would you'd be like, oh, okay, they'll they'll win by ten.
Alabama complete no show. And here's the thing. Can I
throw my theory out? What's happened? So the SEC is fine,
but the two powerhouses are both the Texas schools A
(18:02):
and M and the Longhorns. Why because the Texas economy.
This is why Nick Saban. Nick Saban knew when he
played Sark the first time. He's like, they're bigger than us,
and we don't have Texas money. We got Alabama money.
I mean, the biggest booster I think in Alabama is
Bear Bryant's son. So they don't have the kind of
money when you looked at Alabama, they're big, but they
(18:23):
didn't look extraordinary. They could not run the ball. They
quit running the ball. Florida State had better players, and
so Florida State has always been super talented, Like say
what you want. They had Little Tizzy Fit a couple
of years ago. But Florida State's a good program. Bobby
Bowden on nor Veal, they're good coaches. But I'm looking
at Alabama. You can't fire Klin to Bore. You have
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to be a seventy million dollar check and then you
have to spend another eighty to get the next coach.
Alabama has acknowledged they're struggling to keep up at twelve
million a year on nil. They don't have that kind
of money. They had the best one of the best
left tackle in college football and Proctor he's projected to
be like a top ten pick.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
And they couldn't run the football at all. Kind of
not good. By the way, you mentioned the schedule. So
the best game this weekend, there's only one that I
can tell with the top twenty five Michigan.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oklahoma in Norman like. I like Oklahoma. Oklahoma's favored by
five and a half. I like Oklahoma. Worried about Michigan.
Plus they have I don't know if you've seen USC's
run game. Seriously, Okay, I'll just say, not going to
go crazy on this. I want to be a journalist,
(19:33):
but just check out the running back room at USC
this year. Seriously, what does he go? Thirteen deep? Just
kept putting new guys in and knocking ten yards of carry.
Jmack with a news turned on the news.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
This is the herd line news.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Back on the USC bandwagon.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Love it.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Let's get started with Josh Allen Colin. He was the
MVV last season, came up a little short against the
Chiefs and the referees the AFC Championship Game. Entering the season,
obviously it's Super Bowl or bust for Buffalo Vegas has
the Bills favored in all seventeen games.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
They are tied for the.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Best Super Bowl odds with the Ravens at plus six hundred.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Colin, where are you Bills Ravens? By the way, in
the opener? Which is the best game of the first weekend? Please?
I would take Buffalo. It's at home. You know, whoever
was home, I would take him in that game. Well,
I think that's I think that's as good as any
game this week. And I think if I said to you,
upset alert, I really worry about the Rams. The left
tackle just started practicing against Will Anderson trouble.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Let me go back real quick to the Bills. So
we're told it's a wide receiver league. Right now, who's
the best receiver on the Bills? Slot receiver from Boise
Station Kire? Yeah, that's it. Well, they got the keyon
Coleman from last year.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Come on, what is he is?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
They have two very good tight ends. James cocu is happy,
and I'm just everybody loves wide receivers.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
You gotta pay justin Jefferson and jam Artis. I think
the league is slowly shifting away from wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I mean, you could argue Kansas City, the Chargers, the Bills,
and the Ravens are feel like they I mean Kansas City.
I can't say that Raiders have gone to the run game. Well,
the Chargers wide receiver depth chard I think they just
announced it. And Keenan Allen, who was like not even
on a team three months ago, is now back starting
(21:26):
all the running game. The renaissance, there's clearly a pivot,
at least in the AFC, back to the run. Well,
Detroit drafting Jamior Gibbs, they're a run team first. By
the way, the Packers don't have a clear one. They've
got a lot of good receivers, and I think that's
the new model.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
We don't want to pay one guy like the Bengals
are stuck paying two guys all of the money. They
don't have balance, and I think that would be my thing.
Look at the Bills that they win the Super Bowl
this year without a wide receiver.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
I think it's really interesting.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Let's move on to a certain Niners quarterback, Brock Purty.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Your boy, he enters the season, he's now rich, he's
rich rich.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I want you to read this, read this headline. It's
interesting story developing well, okay, so the athletic, your favorite,
excellent excellent athletic is a very trustable company, so.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
They are reporting. Rival executives are skeptical. The Niners can
build around Perdy making all of that money, so easiest
schedule in the league.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
They'll be fine this year. But the division is getting tasty.
Arizona is probably I'll tell you my favorite pick of
the weekend, maybe Arizona. Now the number's gone up to
like six and a half. Arizona's gonna thump the Saints.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Well they're in New Orleans, Yeah, against Kellen Moren.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Who Dadler, that's trailing twenty seven to three. That's who
it is. But in all seriousness, so they move off
Deebo Samuel. They did pay Ayuk, but he's gonna be
out for like at least the first six weeks. I
don't have as much concern about this. You just have
to draft better. You can't with on on like Trey
Lancey wish on him. No, I mean yeah, and I
(23:01):
think I felt like the last couple of years Shanahan
has had a lot of sand personnel. I don't necessarily
love it. I like it. By the way, the fantasy
guys out there, love Pearsaw this year? Where are you
on the young guy who didn't show much last year?
But he's a two and he's a two okay, Juwan Jennings,
he's a two. George Kittle, he's an All World first
(23:25):
ballot Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
And I mentioned McCaffrey is healthy and ready to rush and.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
They're going to win games. I'm not denying that, but
you're you're talking about a team defensively. When Bosa's misses
three games, it is Fred Warner and a lot of
and a lot of meh.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
In Robert Salah. I trust by the way, his Jets
defenses were great. That wasn't the problem. I like saw.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I like solving a major upgrade at coordinator defense.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Who's got a better one two punch of coaches than
Shanahan and slav.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Not a lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Minnesota's got the best staff, but they're up there. I
love Kevin O'Connor Kenny.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
What a playoff game before we see Frank Floords gets
run out of Miami.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Because he fights with his court. Can we just take
a deep breath just like me with arch spanning final story,
it's college football, Colin. It was an outstanding Week one
and the new AP Top three. When I see this
is out, it just came out.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Hot off the presses, the buck Eye's are number one,
fifty five votes, Penn State two.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
It's a big ten world. We just live in it.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
LSU vaults to three after the win at Clemson. Yeah,
let's see here. Texas only slides down to seven, which
is a little surprise. Clemson only at eight after losing
at home Illinois a little. Oh, you like Illinois a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I think Florida State deserves more respect than that.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
For the win over Alabama, Yeah, you're probably right. Anything
surprised you there. By the way, you have to look
down to twenty one to see your guy, Kaitlin de
Boor at Alabama.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Well, you're not getting rid of him all that saving.
They're definitely not getting rid of not getting rid of him.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Also, hot off the presses, we have a full screen
comparing Sabin to Deboor. Listen, I know you're gonna pile
on Alabama. I'm not piling on I'm being reasonable, Colin.
The under five hundred is highlighted. Saban was never under
five hundred and anything.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
But remember that a couple bad losses Nick Saban knew
when to get out. That's half the battle. The NIL
exploded and he knows Bama doesn't have that kind of money.
Colin nick Saban in seventeen seasons had four unranked losses.
Kalin de Wor already has four, but they're coming for
him big time. Well, the NIL has actually saved SEC coaches.
(25:42):
You can't bail on these guys. The Alabama cannot afford
one hundred and fifty million in firing one staff and
hiring another. They cannot afford it. They can't if they
I don't know where it's coming from. Their athletic director
was basically saying six months ago, we really need the
help of our fan base.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Forget the fans, what about the players? Nick Saban put
a billion guys in the NFL. You can't hit up
Derreck Henry for some money. What about all those wide
receivers getting paid like they have? So many guys Alabama's.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Not giving that.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Let me look at that.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Let me look at that again. When's the last time Miami,
the Kids, Simpson, Florida, and Florida State were all in
the top fifteen two thousand and six preseason. How about that?
I think Florida State's a little undervalued there. South Carolina
is interesting. I watched that quarterback. He's pretty clod I love.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The kids huts.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Yeah, he's pretty liking with the jets. Florida Gators have
such a brutal schedule. They have land mines everywhere. But
I think get optimistic.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I cannot wait. Once again, where's USC scored seventy three points?
Speaker 8 (26:47):
Who did have? Like directional university.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Means a very pesky program from one of the states
in the middle of the country.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
Yeah, maybe like North Dakota staters.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
No, I think it was in I don't know where
it was, RoAF Tech. I think it was Missouri, and
Missouri is a good football state, so you know it
was a good program. They beat Missouri State. Was it
Southwest Missouri State or was this Missouri State? All right,
somebody told me Sisters of the Blind, but I'm not certain.
That's Alabama's lowest ranking since two thousand and eight, and
(27:20):
I'm sure they're taking it well.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
I mean, it wasn't a close game, that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It was a beatdown.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
I think you called me in the middle of that
and you were like, are you watching this?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I was like, no, I expected Alibama wasn't even these
they couldn't move the ball. That was Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Lie. We'll say this.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I think Ohio State's win is more impressive that are
getting credit for because I think Julian Sands a really
good talented kid and looked really comfortable. But I think
Ryan Day was on that sideline because I could see
this and you could see this on TV. I think
he was on that sideline and he was watching the
first two series. He was watching arch Manning's feet and
(27:59):
body language and motion and he and they were getting
a couple of bad field position possessions. And I think
I think he's like guys. I think Ryan Day after
the second series just said we don't need to take
let's let's alter our game plan. Let's go super conservative here.
And I think it was the right day, right move.
(28:21):
And Ryan Day came on earlier and he admitted they
went a little conservative with their quarterback.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
As you know, Julian, you know matures. You know, well,
we'll start, you know, opening it up, but we didn't
want to turn the ball over down there and put
our defense in a bad spot, and that's one of
the first things in our plan to win is play
great defense. And a part of playing great defense is
sometimes making sure you play the field position game. Now,
we don't love that, you know, in terms of you know,
we want to be explosive, we want to open this
thing up, we want to score a ton of points,
(28:50):
which which you know.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
But at the end of the day, the number one
goal in a game like this was to win.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And yeah they did. I thought he was really good.
I think it's funny lost in that game was how
good Julian Sayan was very composed. I don't know. You know, listen,
you can defend Ohio State differently than last year because
Ohio State's running back room last year was insane. It's
like Penn States is this year or Notre Dames is
(29:17):
this year, so it was really hard. He couldn't cheat
on Ohio State. So I don't think Jeremiah Smith is
going to be You're gonna have to figure out ways
to use him, put him in motion different sets because
people are going to just roll coverage over. Texas certainly did,
but I thought Ohio States win was impressive.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
I gotta chie in here, Collent, I'm sorry. I just
looked at the box score. You said Julian Sane had
a great game, Like he's a great game.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
He looked in that space against world class athletes. I
thought he and the world was watching. I thought he
looked very comfortable, good feet, good mechanics, very consistent. He
was thirteen or twenty four, one hundred and twenty six
yards six point three yards per attempt. I mean again,
he was they got he had two drops and he
(30:02):
had bad field, Like, yeah, no, he don't blame it
all on him. I thought he looked composed, and that's
all I was caring about.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Fine,
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