3 & Out - Jordan Love & Packers DOMINATING Jayden Daniels & Commanders on TNF - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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What is going on everybody? How are we doing? John
Middlecoff three and OW Podcast. Just watched a little Thursday
night football. The green Bay Packers are red hot. They
traded for Mike Caparsons. They're two to zero. The score
doesn't quite even reflect what they dominated the Washington Commanders tonight.
That was an ass kicking. So two home games, two wins.

(00:37):
Green Bay looks like, if not the best team, one
of the best teams in the league, So props to them.
Will dive into Washington as well. Some other stuff going
on around the NFL party He's injured, Mac Jones in
It's actually not funny, the Chiefs, the Eagles, Mike McDaniels,
which that thing is getting a little weird, the kickoff rule.

(00:58):
Stucky joins us as he does every Friday, so recorded
that before the Thursday night game. I also recorded a
mail bag, but that'll probably come out this weekend. The
audio version, the video version. They'll both be up on
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skipped it yesterday, but I tried to bang out some
of your questions. So no mail bag today, just just

(01:21):
some night reaction and then long talk. Was Stucky about
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funny part about the NFL is even when a game,
and to me the major difference with the NFL in
college is like when one team is kicking someone's butt.
In college, typically the score reflects it. Now, not every
game a NASS kicking is sixty to nothing in college,
but like if I am dominating you for three quarters,

(03:06):
I am typically up several scores, like it's not even
a close game yet in the NFL through three quarters,
I think by the end of three quarters that they
might have been even. But at one point in time
with a couple of minutes left, the graphic comes up
that the green Bay Packers tight end Tucker Craft, had
more yards than the entire Washington Commander's offense. Who have

(03:30):
Jade Daniels offensive Rookie of the Year, Deebo Samuel, who's playmaker,
Terry McLaurin who's making thirty million dollars a year. They
got some firepower, and Zach Ertz, who's pretty legendary tight
end and still actually playing pretty well for an older guy.
When I was actually me and my wife went to
see the baby doctor. There are all these pictures of
the babies, and the Ertz baby was up there. So

(03:53):
I've always had a soft spot for Zach Ertz. But
that offense tonight was horrendous, and the green Bay Packers
kicked their ass and they were still only up a touchdown,
but then the Green Bay got the ball back score
twenty four to ten in the game was basically over then,
I think, and I do believe this. I liked him
coming into the year. I thought they had a chance
to be really good. You guys know that I one

(04:15):
of my favorite bets before the year was them to
win the division. And that was before the Micah Parsons trade. Obviously,
once they traded for Micah Parsons, I've been saying this
the best part of that trade for twenty twenty five.
It's just Kenny Clark for Micah Parsons straight up. Those
draft picks are in the future. It's like time value money.
It's like me giving you one hundred dollars for you

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giving me two hundred dollars later, but that later is
not coming for a year. So right now, it's Kenny
Clark for Micah Parson straight up, which is a trade
that any human would make for this individual season. And
obviously tonight Micah Parsons looked like Lawrence Taylor coming off
the edge against the rookie. But I do think it's
fair to say that if this was college, the Green
Bay Packers would be the number one team in the country.

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And last year it was clear because for a long time,
in the McCarthy era right up into the Lafloria, offense
has never been their problem. Obviously, when you have Aaron
Rodgers for years winning MVPs in one of the best
players in the history of the league, are gonna be
really good. But they transition very smoothly into Jordan Love.
Offense is not gonna be their issue. They always build

(05:18):
good offensive lines. Even if they have to mix and
match their wide receivers, they figure it out, they find
tight ends. They're just offense is going to be good
and defense has been the question. And they get Jeff Haffley,
who's kind of thrown in his hat and the ring
these first two weeks of I thought last year is like,
this is a guy that left Boston College because of
the nil situation. It's like he's never gonna be able

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to win that much, will probably just get fired. He
comes to Green Bay, he knows that, like that's a
better opportunity to up his stock to go to either
a bigger college or even best case scenario, one day
be an NFL coach. And last year, if you would
asked me, I'd bet, I bet he's gonna be in
the mix with another good year to interview for the
top college jobs. If it keeps going like this, he's
going to be one of the top candidates this offseason.

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Because that defense tonight, the speed in which they played,
how well they tackled, how close their defensive backs are constantly,
you know, to the wide receivers, It's not like, you know,
Washington has no firepower with Debo and McLaurin, but that
defense looks excellent and they were hammering it all night.
To me what I saw, and this happens sometimes when
Lamar plays. Pittsburgh the only team that is comfortable playing

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him with his speed, and he typically in Baltimore doesn't
play that well against him. It's because they always have
speed on the outside. And tonight Jaden Daniels usually looks
so much faster than so many teams he plays, and
tonight I would say he looked I don't want to
say pedestrian from an athletic standpoint, but he looked much

(06:46):
more normal, and I think that was more of a
reflection with just how fast and physical Green Bay is.
But the defense was solid, was good last year. You
add Micah Parsons to this unit, the speed, and they've
had leads. The other thing, they've started two straight games.
They kind of reminded me last year of the Minnesota Vikings.
A huge part of the Minnesota Vikings success early in

(07:08):
the season and this kind of just snowballed as the
year went is the confidence for Sam Darnold was like
through four games, they were dominating early in games. They
were putting up a ton of points. And he had
like twelve touchdowns through four weeks. Same thing. Last week,
a couple of touchdowns early, Jordan Love. This week a
couple of touchdowns early. The offense and Jordan Love, it's

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like they're just rolling early in these games. Now both
of them have been at home, but like the offense
gets a lead and then they are built. They have
a basically a two hundred million dollar pass rusher in Micah.
They have a Sean Gary who is an excellent player.
They have several other guys really in their front seven
who are fast, physical, just naturally get up the field guys.

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And they were engulfing him to night and play after
play after play. And I give Jayden a lot of
credit because I've been hammering this home for the most
important aspect of a quarterback that we never talk about,
his toughness. And Jaden Daniels stood in there tonight and
got the shit kicked out of him. He was getting peppered.
And I don't know how much he weighs when he

(08:12):
gets on the scale. He probably weighs a little bit
more than he looks because he's a taller guy. But
this guy's not built like you know, Cam Newton or
Ben Roethlisberger. Like he's pretty slender and he's just getting popped, popped, popped,
and he kept hopping back up. But when this team
gets a lead on you, it's different. I think they're
a little more complete. And obviously Jordan loves not Peyton Manning,

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but the way this thing is built right now. Remember
when they had a couple pass rushers for years in Indianapolis,
or when Peyton you know, got to Denver and they
had DeMarcus Ware and Von Miller. Now you got Micah
Parsons and Rashan Gary. It's like, buckle the bleep up,
we are coming because in the third and everyone in
the stadium, everyone on their couch knows they're passing. This

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is probably one of the last teams you want to
see in Washington. Knight, you know, when you throw out
a rookie and listen, it's part of life in the league.
You get drafted high, you're our best option. You get
thrown to the fire and week two short, week on
the road. Micah Parsons one hundred and eighty eight million

(09:14):
back is okay. Kid Like Cliff said good luck. I'll
give you help occasionally, but go get him, Tiger and
go to the ground is what he did because Michael
Parsons went right around him. And let's face the Cliff's
offense is I've never been a huge fan. Respect the guy.
Don't respect the scheme. I think it is extremely soft.

(09:34):
But their quarterbacks so good they can overcome it. The
problem with soft schemes, and this was early on. You know,
maybe Chip has morphed a little bit, but you know,
definitely Cliff over the years, when you play physical fronts,
they annihilate you. Right, Physical fronts have an advantage no
matter who they're playing. But when you play this spread

(09:55):
it out offense, you better have big time pass protection
because if you don't and they got good pass rushers,
it's on like Donkey Kong. And that's what was happening
to the Oregon right tackle. And I know, you know,
Herbstreet's trying to be nice. You know, he used to
play left tackle, and listen, sometimes it's like maybe that
guy's not even ready to be a starter. He just
has no choice. But here's a thing you know in

(10:16):
the NFL, if he's not ready, we saw it last
year with the Chiefs. They put out the second rounder
from BYU and then like half the season they're like,
this is not possible. He gets pinched. And when you
have expectations. I've say this all the time, bad teams,
the Panthers, the Dolphins, whoever, it doesn't really matter. Let
the guy sink or swim, keep rolling them out there.
Good teams if he can't get it done against the

(10:37):
best players. And we are playing a much harder schedule
this year, and obviously Mike is on the upper echelon
of guys who we're gonna play. But if he's a
liability and gonna get my quarterback killed, we at least
have to look at other people, right, if he's just
not ready, and listen, sometimes you're just not ready as
a rookie. Right, It's not like he was the seventh
overall pick. He was a mid or pick in the twenties.

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But tonight that was eye opening. And the other thing is,
you know, a good offensive coordinator, what they will do
is they will find your weakness. I remember Belichick, remember
a couple of years ago they did like the top
one hundred players of all time, and he was in
there the whole time. And you know, different position guys

(11:20):
like Ed Reid would show up. Brady and I think
Peyton Manning showed up. It was cool. And I remember
one time Rich Eisen asked him a question and the
one thing Bill's pretty good at, even when he's grumpy,
it's just kind of keeping things simple. He's like, football
is not that complicated, Like think the Art of war.
We try to get our strengths on your weaknesses, and

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we try to hide our weaknesses from any strength that
you may have. Like this is pretty basic game, even
though it's extremely complicated. When you have a weakness on
defense in the secondary and you are a good offensive
coach with a capable quarterback in passing game, you attack
that guy relentlessly. I don't care if you have Jerry

(12:01):
Rice and Randy Moss out there, or you have the
group of pretty capable, solid, talented young wide receivers that
the Packers have, And that's what they did to Marcus Lattimore.
And I never have an issue with someone being aggressive
in the trade market. And the Washington found themselves last
year in a situation that they haven't typically been in, right,
and they have a new administration all of a sudden

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we're really good, and they got aggressive with the corner.
It turns out he's old and he can't play anymore.
And sometimes your body, like there are certain positions when
your body leaves you when it comes to speed, like
you can get away with it at wide receiver if
you're a great route runner, Like what forty times do
you think Keenan Allen runs. I'll promise you this. It's
closer to five zero than it is four to six.

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But he can get open, Like so what, he's not
that fast. He knows where he's going. You don't know
where he's going. And he's a great rute runner. DeVante
Adams never been a blazer. You cannot function when you
were not fast at corner. Not possible, especially if I'm
going to put you in one on one situations. And
in the Packers, as that game went on, they went
at him like relentlessly, and he was getting flagged, he

(13:07):
was getting completions, and that's the problem. So if you
look at you know, right now, Green Bay, it feels
like they have a bunch of strengths right A bunch
of guys that they've drafted, they've acquired, are playing really well.
They signed Josh Jacobs. What is Josh Jacobs a freaking beast?
Like he's a guy so handed him again, handed him again.
He's one of the he's so good like this is
to me the way I judge like top running backs,

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even when you know is the game's going one score,
maybe within ten points, and you give it to a
guy and he gets like two yards two yards and
it never crossed your mind like that wasn't even a
bad play call. I'd give it to again because he's
one good block, he's one broken arm tackle away from
that being seventeen yards. And the more and more he
wears on you, it's like a fighter. Not everyone, you know,

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Dereck Henry's a little Mike Tysony. He hits you with
that right that ader run. It breaks you. Well, most
running backs don't have that speed that they're gonna run,
you know, Saquon Barkley, Derek Henry. But a guy like
Josh Jacobs is just like, I'm gonna keep jabbing you
in that side and eventually you're just gonna go down
being so much pain, and that's what he feels like.
He wears on you out and then it opens it

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up for you know, some of your own wide receivers
and the tight end. But like you watch Green Bay,
they just are a more complete team. Like I still
love the quarterback for Washington, but you see some weakness.
They trade a high pick for Lattimore can't play. They
draft this guy at to play offensive tackle for them,
you know, relative to a high end guy, it looked

(14:31):
like it was a lot. Now I'd have to go
back and really study last week. Maybe he clearly did
better against the New York Giants, who supposedly have a good,
you know, pass rush. So maybe it's just hey, Michael
Parsons peak of his powers, fresh legs. I'm not baring
the kid by any means, but if you're gonna be good,

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you know, you can't really hide tackles. I can get
away with guards and centers because I can double team,
but a tackle, even if I'm chipping or helping a
tight end, There're gonna be a lot of where it's
just kind of him and him and the guy. And
in this league, like every team, if not Michael Parsons
or Max Crosby, they have a group of guys that
they can throw at you. And listen, half Lee, I

(15:13):
can't sing that guy's praises enough that that wasn't ass kicking.
This guy's good. I gotta be honest. I remember years
ago he was on the staff for Chip Kelly with
the forty nine ers, and I used to go to
these practices and I remember looking at him. He's pretty small, skinny,
just kind of looks kind of geeky. But I remember
thinking like, got this guy, this guy. And then Chip

(15:36):
got fired and Kyle Shanahan kept him and he was
on the staff for a couple of years. I remember
talking to someone about him, like this guy. I had
never met him, I didn't know anything about him. I
was just judging him off the way he looked like
this skinny, little white guy who's coaching DB's and if
he went to practice like he's coaching his ass off.
I remember asking someone, They're like, Tony John, he's actually
pretty good coach. So I was like, hey, man, I

(15:58):
can't judge a book by its cover. And then he
goes on to Ohio State and look at him. Now
he's a stut. So my first just judging him on
the practice field, I'm like, this guy, now, you gotta
be careful. You know, Kyle's had a lot of like
Mike McDaniels Jeff Haffley type guys running around. So if
you just judge all these like little guys screaming, you
think they all suck and they all end up becoming

(16:19):
head coaches. So to me, Jeff Haffley, man, he's on
a trajectory right now. Did Green Bay better enjoy it?
Like this is a super Bowl level team because this
guy's gonna be interviewing this offseason for sure top college
jobs because he's already been a head coach in college.
But to me, like the NFL teams are gonna start
sniffing around on what he's doing. It's not even debatable.
And listen, I know he's got good friends in the media,

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don't know him personally, but they tried to push last
year Cliff Cliff Kingsbury cannot be a head coach this offense,
Like you cannot hire this guy to run this offense,
Like they can't on short yardage, run a play where
a quarterback's under center. It doesn't exist. And I know
there was a play tonight where Austin Eckler got it.
I think it was like fourth and one, or might

(17:01):
even been like fourth. But it's like it's fourth and
one and you're running a gun run against an excellent
defensive front and thank god, like Eckler kind of like
got an extra little juice and kind of rolled around.
It's like, what are we doing? How can anyone I
don't pretend to know more x's and o's than this guy,
But in what world do we go, hey, short yardage

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midfield gun run? Like, how over the course of your
career coaching football, have we never come into the meeting
room or on the field and you know what, let's
just try some sort of downhill run under center, even
if it's not like I'm not even advocating having Jaden
do tush push or quarterback sneak, just a normal short
yardage run under center that successful team has been running forever.

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How's that never coming? No, we don't do that. If
your everthing is, especially in a sport of football, like,
we do not do that. Totally understand. If it's like, hey, guy,
hits a chick, we don't draft those guys totally on board.
But if your thing is like, yeah, short yardage quarterback
under center, we don't do it, can't coach it. We
probably could, but we don't even try like, I'm out

(18:06):
on your offense. I just am and I thought tonight
like Jaden's such a talented player, he would work and
you and I could be calling plays for him. But
that offense, man, I don't know. Now you can say
it's the best defense in the league, but green Bay
looks fantastic that they really do, and I feel pretty good.

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I also think we got to be careful now, you know,
the way we look at the Lions that everyone wrote
off their defensive speed and their defensive pass rush, They're
gonna be an awful matchup for them because GoF definitely
can't move. Like even the night Jaden had a lot
of problems running away because they could kind of catch
them or at least get close to them, and their

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team speed really throw them off. Jerry Goff can't move
more than a couple of yards, like he has to
play within the pocket. So I think we got to
be careful about just, you know, kind of riding off
and burying the Detroit Lions as like a seven win
team this year. That could be an outlier situation and
they're just gonna lose to green Bay because to me,
green Bay is even gonna be faster indoors. I've always

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said this about the Packers, even before their defense was good,
but definitely now They've always had speed it wide receiver.
They've had athletic guys on defense, they just weren't that strong.
Now they have like strong speed guys on defense with Parsons.
And how good Gary's playing. I mean, granted he's been
on the team, but I'm really high.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
In Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
You don't want to peak too early. Hell, we saw
the Saints last year. They were Team of the Year
through two games, didn't work out that well. Everyone was
fired by like Thanksgiving. So obviously it's not gonna happen
here in Green Bay. But my overall point is like
you got to keep getting better. And the good thing
for them is like they've had back to back games
where why weren't you guys have like thirty to nothing.

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So they've kind of sputtered out a little on offense,
they've definitely left some points on the board, but man,
that defense, Jeff Hafley great higher this way the floor
deserves credit. And this is why I'm so high on
this team. It's like They're organization is just so well run.
It's just like, what an impressive hire who everyone's like,
I gotta fire as boy Joe Berry, which couldn't have

(20:07):
been easy. I don't care who you are. I think
it's so easy for us. And I'm guilty of this too,
Like fire this guy. It's like, well, yeah, this guy's
been one of the best friends in my life for
the last fifteen years. I love this guy, I love
this human being. I love this guy's family, like like,
that's kind of important in life. The problem is once
you start mixing those relationships in business, like, it does

(20:29):
get complicated. That's also part of life. But I think
we think these things are a little easier than they
actually are. So obviously that was hard. But once he
did pull the trigger on that, to go out and
make a decision that no one saw coming, and then
to have this work out, and they showed the visual
to night of Gudakins and ed Policy, it just feels

(20:50):
they just got some pretty good synergy going and they
have for a long time. But how do the packers
always mix and match different people, whether it's Ron Wolf
and home In Ted and Mike and now and now
guda Kin's Lafloor Need Policy. It's just they're good at
like you know, uh, they're like a matchmaker of putting

(21:11):
these guys together. Then they get along and it just
kind of works. Laflour went nuts early in the game
when the guy screwed up the field goal, you know,
go for a situation. I remember going to a Titans practice.
It would have been Mike Vrabel's like first OTAs and
I was there for I've told this story before for

(21:31):
like a bachelor party, but I went like a four
or five days early. I had John Robinson, the former
GM on the podcast, played a little golf, screwed around,
checked out in Nashville. But I remember Laflour was kind
of this, you know, young up and comers, this first
ever offensive coordinator job, thinking like god, this guy's a
pretty big red ass. He was screaming at people. That
was like Mariota. They had Dion Lewis, Derrick Henry, that

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was before Derrick Henry was good like Luwaan. I mean,
they had some good players, but I just remember this guy.
And I've been to a lot of NFL practice, you know,
some offensive coordinators, like if you go to a forty
nine or practice, Kyle Shan has not screaming at a
bunch of people. You know, you go to a lot
of practices like Gruden would scream at people. I'm trying
to think, like you know, even Hardbough, Greg Rom and
it was it wasn't screaming at you. You went there

(22:15):
as like laflor was just screaming at people. And sometimes
he's kind of got that in him. He's got attle
edge to him. I've Lafloor's really grown on me over
the year. So props the Packers big win, and I'll
all say this, I give you a little grace. You
should lose this game. If you are a road team
on Thursday Night football week two or week twelve, that's

(22:37):
really difficult. And when you are a road team on
Thursday night football against a good team, Like if you're
a road team on thursdayn football and you got to
play Miami or Carolina or you know, you have to
get on a plane and fly several hours. That is
not easy because you basically throw a white flag to Wednesday, right.
You work out Monday Tuesday, and then you travel Wednesday.

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So they get all of way to kind of do
like slow walk through stuff and just operate a little
more normal. It is a massive advantage to be the
home team on Thursday night. It's a enormous advantage when
you get later in the season, so you get a
little less room for me to like give you a

(23:19):
free pass. But on the road Thursday night football, Green
Bay not an easy spot. But this is where also
a lot of people are questioning. You know, Washington a
little fluky last year, won those one score games like stuck.
He had mentioned all the fourth downs they got, what
were they like twenty at twenty three last year and
they weren't all like fourth and inches. So it's gonna

(23:40):
be something to watch. But as long as you got
Jaden Daniels, I'm not writing you off I do think
though the longer Cliff you know his offense historically, like
the more and more you see of them, it's a
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a couple other things around the National Football League rap
Sheet put out within the last forty eight hours that
Brock Purty is out two to five weeks, which I
gotta be honest, I'm I'm not questioning his reporting. I mean,
he's he's a big jay and he's great at his job.
I like little rap sheet, but two to five is
kind of weird. It's like that could be like a week,

(25:51):
or that could be a month and a half. Usually
it's like six to eight, one to two. John Lynch
came out today and said they're viewing it more week
to week. I do think this Purty was good last week,
like obviously through the game winning touchdown. He just had
a really good game. Except he did throw two interceptions.
I thought one of them was really bad. The other

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one was just good defense. But he was really good
last week. And Kittle gets Kot in the game, so
he doesn't have him for a long stretch of the game.
Juwan Jennings gets hurt like it was impressed about it,
but perty's a really good player. When you pay a
guy a lot of money, though, Like, here's the one
concern I have for Brock when it comes to just

(26:35):
the long term view. He's kind of been hurt a lot.
You know, when I think Patrick Mahomes, I think Josh Allen,
I think Lamar Jack. These guys miss games. What are
they ever missing? I was thinking I was watching something
last night on Devin mccorty. This clip came up, like
Devin talking to Florio. So I just googled Devin mccorty

(26:55):
and I went to his game log page for his
career and I was like adding it up. This guy
he played like twelve thirteen years. I'm pretty sure he
missed like four total games. A huge part of football,
whether you're Tom Brady, Payton Manning, or whether you're just
a safety like mccordy, is your availability. And I don't
blame no player wants to get injured, of course not.

(27:16):
But he's had some Like he got injured a couple
of years ago, missed three games in the middle of
the season. Obviously got injured in the NFC Championship game.
He got injured here. It's just a little concerning, especially
when it comes out of the game. It was just like, hey,
this freaky thing the guy landed on him. It's like, well,
he threw the game win, he touchdown, he came back
in the game, did victory formation, and then the next
day you say he's got a toe and a shoulder.

(27:39):
I just that's tough. But this is also why they
kind of value the backup quarterback position. Here's the thing.
The forty nine ers who love this guy, and rightfully so.
Brock's really good, credible story meshes great with Kyle, gave
him a bunch of money for two of the last
three years. Like they've taken the backup quarterback job pretty seriously.
Three years ago it was Sam Darnold. They love the guy,

(28:01):
and this year was Mac Jones, someone that Kyle Shanahan
really wanted to draft a number three overall when they
kind of talked him out of to go with Trey Lance.
Neither pick would have been good. But I do think
this is this is also why you pay Kyle Shanahan.
I said, it's about Ben Johnson. If the Caleb thing
is a disaster, which still got a ways to go,
not looking great, but that's why he gave Ben Johnson
five years thirteen million dollars a year, because the offense

(28:23):
is his baby and he's gonna figure it out. He's
worked with countless different quarterbacks. We know Shanahan has won
games with a ton of different guys, and it's gonna
be really hard because, arguably, especially right now, their best
player on offense is George Kittle, who has to pulled
hamstrings out a month. And Christian McCaffrey got more touches
last game in terms of rushing attempts and pass targets

(28:47):
then he had since like twenty twenty two. It's like,
you can't ride this guy like he's secretariat when he
just basically missed all season last year with Calves and
Achilles and his cabs still hitting up. So Kyle Shanahan
mac owns and this is where you get a lot
of credit as an organization. We'll talk about Philly here
in a minute. When teams are willing to spend big money,
like Robert Sala was on the fence, he was thinking

(29:08):
about going to different couple of places, and the forty
nine ers gave him a ton of money. You know,
there's a decent chance he's the highest paid defensive coordinator,
if not tied with Fangio. Is the guy making the most,
and he carried him in the first game in terms
of like random guys making big plays, and you got
to invest in your coaching staff when you have the

(29:28):
opportunity to get big time coaches, because you're gonna have injuries.
I mean, if you're watching tonight, guys were dropping like flies.
It's like, we got a guy carted off, we got
Eckler terarn his achilles. No grant, it's Thursday night game.
But this is a consistent theme in the NFL. Just
you just watch a random game, it feels it'd be
stunning if the cart doesn't come out once a game

(29:50):
and how many times, you know, six seven guys throughout
the course of the game go to the tent. Now,
a large percentage of those guys come back, but sometimes
they don't. Sometimes the guy's questionable. You saw to night
red shoulder boom out, Wise knee out, Eckler achilles out.
I mean, these guys are probably out. I mean, Reid
might be missed. I don't know if he tore broke

(30:11):
a collar bone, five six, seven weeks. The other two
guys out for the season. So it's just like that's
how fast it happens. So that's where you really got
to rely on your coaching because right now you only
got so many options practice squad guys. You gotta coach
these guys up and no one's gonna feel sorry for you,
and no one's gonna make any excuses. Wow, we had
a bunch of guys injured. Yes, part of the league. Now,
obviously some teams have more guys injured than other people.

(30:32):
But this is why I bet on the forty nine
ers to be pretty good this year. Was their schedule, Well,
it's like Mac Jones, Spencer Ratler, Godspeed, Buddy Chiefs and
the Eagles. There was a fantastic article on The Athletic
about the Philadelphia Eagles and how they operate financially and
essentially that Howie and Jeffrey they have over thirty percent

(30:56):
of their salary cap in twenty twenty five. In bed money,
we talk a lot about dead money. The Eagles have
a ton of dead money because guys like Jason Kelcey,
Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, these guys are retired. Well, you
got to pay a credit card, and when you buy
these guys or you know, extend their contracts, the Eagles
push it all down. So when these guys randomly retire

(31:18):
a little earlier than your thought, it all gets accelerated. Well,
you have to pay the bill. You've already actually paid
them in real money, But on your salary cap it
comes due and it doesn't matter because the whole premise
of this article is how willing Jeffrey Lurie is to
take his cash and manipulate the salary cap because he'll
give you big signing bonuses and then you push it

(31:39):
over the course of the cap. And this is what
I've never understood about the NFL. I understand and it's
in this article. It's basically like, you know, Cincinnati takes
a lot of shit. Pittsburgh Steelers are the same. They
don't pay these huse signing bonuses. And I was thinking
about it driving around today. You know, Jeffrey Louriy bought
this team in the late nineties, so the majority of
his life all he's known as chi Ching Chiching, Chiching.

(32:02):
The money flows as how we called it, it's called
interest free loans. We know the money's coming, we just
got to pay it later. We're not worried about, you know,
going belly up about not being able to make our payments.
We see the guaranteed money. I do think the roonies
and the Browns and some of these old school families
that have been in the NFL for so long. They're

(32:23):
wired like it was back in the day, and in fairness,
back in the day, sixties, seventies, the eighties, obviously, the
television money was way different. You were very predicated on
gate receipts and people coming in contracts. Even in the
documentary with Jerry Jones, that's like the mid nineties signing
Deon Sanders these contracts. I think he got like a

(32:44):
ten million dollars signing bonus. So within twenty five thirty years,
the economics of the league have changed, I mean, gone
to a different universe money wise, but you know the
money's guaranteed and you know the money's there. So I
don't understand these teams not taking advantage of what the
Eagles are doing. Like the reason the Eagles have a

(33:04):
really good roster this year is because their owner is
willing to take money that he's getting from the league.
He doesn't have to do anything like you're just getting
free money for the league being part of this television
revenue that's impossible to go over because the cap is
like not even fifty percent of that amount of money
that you're getting or right around there, so you have
so much room to spend because your other expenses, your

(33:26):
coaches don't cost that much relative to players, and no
one else in your building costs anything. So the Eagles
the reason, like this week they're favored, they should it
should have been a disaster. And as people are saying
in this article like that, they're just a team on tilt.
But if you're paying elite players and they're playing elite,
it's gonna work. And that's what Howie and Jeffrey have done,
and that's why they come in like with a pretty

(33:47):
good chance to be a super Bowl type team again
because they are utilizing all this money the NFL is making.
I think a lot of teams it's crazy reading this
article are just like what are you doing with the money?
Like pocketing it, like putting it in a brokerage account,
Like you guys are all living in the biggest house
on the block. You got this asset worth billions of dollars.

(34:10):
I don't understand not investing it back into the team,
especially when you get the opportunity to pay good players.
And it just shows you a lot of these owners
are not And here's the thing. It's not like Mike
Brown is like buying seven houses in Italy and has
some two hundred million dollar yacht park neck to bezos, like,

(34:30):
where's O the money going that he gets from the league.
I just don't quite get it. I think, and I've
said this forever, when you have the disease of being cheap,
even when you get to the wealth level of these
guys with guaranteed money coming in, you don't shake it.
It's a disease you do not shake. It's not curable
once you pass a certain point in your life. And
clearly some of these teams have it. And I'll give

(34:52):
Clark Hunt and the Chiefs credit. They were notoriously known
for being a little cheap. I do think they have
done a better job. Obviously, Coach Reading and Patrick Homes
have inspired them. You know, SPAGS makes big money now.
Obviously they pay their players. You know, Carve Lostis just
got a huge contract. They paid multiple offensive linemen big contracts. Obviously,
Patrick has ten years, four hundred and fifty million dollars.

(35:15):
Who knows, you know, I mean, he's making so much.
The guy's just printing money. But I do think this
is I do believe in championship character, in championship blood.
Even though when you watch that game against the Charge
didn't look great. I mean their defense got shredded offensively.
You know, Worthies kind of up in the air right now,
and I felt bad. I thought some of Travis's comments.

(35:36):
He was just like, it's embarrassing for me. I'm a
thirteenth year pro. I know the landmarks to be at.
I gotta pay it. I can't run into him, and
obviously Travis a lot bigger than him. So if I'm
gonna run into him and take him out and I
hurt the guy, it sucks. It's like on me, especially
a guy that we really need. So it's like their offense.
Everyone kept saying, like, what's up with the Chiefs offense?

(35:57):
It's not that complicated where they got hurt three plays
in and let's face it, their version of a star
receiver relative like justin Jefferson Jamar Chase, of course not,
but for she Rice relative to their teams really good
and he's suspended. So if I take away your two
top receivers and your tight ends old, and you know
you don't have a great running game, what do you
think it's gonna look like I could have John Elway

(36:18):
or Peyton Manning in their prime, Like you're not gonna
score that many points. So were these very very important,
But they like it's tough to start zero and two
because someone has to win between the Chargers and the Raiders.
And if the Chargers beat the Raiders on Monday night
and you were to lose, if you're the Chiefs, you're
all of a sudden, This isn't basketball or baseball, so
like two games back whatever, it's early in the season football,

(36:38):
all of a sudden, it's like we're three and one,
you're one and three, Like it can get kind of
bigger than you think, really really fast. So there is
some pressure here on the Chiefs at home longer week.
Obviously the Eagles did two, you know, to win this game.
And this is this where the championship character, the championship
medal and just the and they've done this a lot,
and this is why they parallel the Patriots so much.

(36:59):
The Patriots won a lot of weird, ugly games over
the course of their twenty years, not everything that This
wasn't like Alabama and their peak. I mean, this is
the NFL. Sometimes you got to pull games out of
you know what, and all of a sudden you look
up at the scoreboard and it's like, you know, twenty
three to nineteen. You're like, shit, we didn't even play good,

(37:19):
but let's we get take a win. And that's what
I think the Chiefs have to find a way to do. Obviously,
Jalen Carter didn't get suspended. No, nor should you if
I agreed with you know, getting kicked out of that
game was basically he didn't play staff, so that that
might as well be a suspension. But you imagine he's
going to be motivated. Luckily for the Chiefs, you know,
their center and guard pretty good. But I'm pretty fired

(37:42):
up to watch that game a couple more things before
we get out of here. I do think we have
pretty early. This is gonna get ugly watch.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I would rank this team number two and a pretty
distant number from number one. But you know, Brian Callahan, listen,
he could play Denver ten times. In Denver, he's probably
losing that game ten out of ten times. His rookie
making his first start, like he's never winning that game,
but he's getting crushed for the sequence pinned up against
his own goal. Line for going three and out in

(38:17):
like the blink of an eye giving up a touchdown.
He clearly didn't know the rules. He even admitted it
with an elbow relative to knees, you know, for a catch.
It just the GM there Borgonzi that came from Kansas
City did not hire him. So anytime you have kind
of that overlap of like we just draft a quarterback

(38:38):
number one overall that I'm betting on being pretty good player.
I'm betting on at minimum at the end of the
season going You know, cam Ward is a guy that
a lot of people would like to work with, a
lot of people would like to coach in Nashville. Incredible,
incredible place. Sign me up. If I was a coach,
I would go there yesterday. So it would be a
job that would have a lot of people lined up

(38:58):
with strong interest. So you got new GM, you got
this young quarterback, and there was some pressure on this
guy to start looking capable. Now I like him this
week plus five and a half. But I did the
same thing last year and they kept losing. So if
you tell me that the Rams beat the living you
know what out of him, I think that situation could
get a little weird for Callahan, and he could be

(39:18):
in one of those, you know, kind of rare positions
where it's like he's a two and done coach. Everywhere
I clicked over the last three or four days, my
YouTube algorithm, my Twitter algorithm, my Instagram algorithm, anything football
wise was about Mike McDonald or Mike McDaniel's sucking the
team's sucking them doing players only meetings after week one

(39:43):
to it's just it's pretty everyone's taken potshots and listen,
I take no joy. I feel a lot of guys
people are kicking him when he's down, Like I've been
making fun of this guy for a little bit for
just being like kind of an overrated media fabrication. I
do think some of the clips I I've seen, it's
become kind of sad, like I take less joy in

(40:04):
it now saying like this, guys, they're really terrible, They're
an embarrassment. But it's gonna get really ugly. And now
the masses have kind of swarmed in, and who knows,
maybe maybe the Patriots aren't good, maybe they can pull
a game out of nowhere and all of a sudden,
the Dolphins win at home. But if you tell me,
they lose it home by a touchdown by ten points,
even if the Patriots aren't good. I just think this

(40:25):
thing's going to grow and grow and grow and get
so ugly. And the reality is these owners, you know,
they spend way more time at home watching TV, listen
to radio when they're driving around, having their buddies send
them articles like they're not at the office just locked
in a film room, kind of out of touch with reality. Right,
They are much more in touch with the fan base

(40:48):
read it. I mean they are dialed in of all
the conversation outside the building. So whether it's the guy's
kids telling them, I think that plays a huge rule
and I think Mike's clearly in major trouble. I want
to end on this. I got this DM on Instagram.
We do mail bags. We'll have one out this weekend
at John Middlecoff firing those dms. But it kind of

(41:12):
is an introduction to what I wanted to talk about.
And he said, John, I've got a weird question, and
I'm not sure you can answer this, But with the
new kickoff rule, I've noticed almost every team using backup
running backs to return kicks. Does this have to do
with the new kickoff return becoming more of a run
play and with both teams lining up straight across from

(41:33):
each other five yards apart. And that's a great question,
because tonight you saw Deebo Samuel, who is widely considered
a wide back as in a wide receiver running back
combination in anyone who's been by Debo, he's built much
more like a running back than he is a wide receiver.
But he's Taylor made to do that. Now, granted he

(41:55):
did that in college. He's a good return man, but
if you look around the league, you are using players
who you would use on offense, not just special teams
only type guys to return kicks. And garaf Follo tweeted
out this week about this rule or about what's going on.
Early on in the season, the teams have seen the
impact of the kick return. The average starting field position

(42:17):
for the kickoff is basically the thirty yard line twenty
nine point seven and entering last night's game going into
Monday night, the highest in Week one since two thousand. Well,
this off season, one thing they did is the if
you get a touchback, it goes to the thirty five.
So if you're watching kickoffs throughout the weekend and watch

(42:41):
it this upcoming weekend. They are basically kicked in the
landing zone every time now because if I just kick
it through the end zone and you started thirty five,
you're one explosive play away from being at the fifty
yard line. So you're basically the kickoff and a good
offensive play from being at midfield with only one offensive play.
That's insane. The touchback used to be at the twenty

(43:04):
yard line, so to get to midfield, you would have
need several explosive plays, and even if you're not doing
explosive plays, it would take you, you know, potentially seven
eight plays to even gain thirty thirty five yards. Now
I screw up the kickoff, Boom, you're close to midfield.
So the rule change. And this is where the NFL

(43:24):
deserves a lot of credit. They are very proactive with
trying different stuff, and years ago, Belichick deserves flowers on
this one was like, we can't keep kicking the extra
point from the two yard line. It's like ninety nine
percent accurate. It's a wasted play. Why do we even
have collisions? So they moved it back and what happened.

(43:44):
It went from like ninety nine to like ninety one,
and that eight to nine percent difference is more impactful
because you're always like a little on your edge, especially
in the second half that a guy could miss the
pat well the kickoff rule and listen, a lot of
traditionalist coaches that have been around a long time did
not like it, and I get it because they thought

(44:05):
like it would just ruin the play. It just wouldn't exist.
Special teams was basically gonna go away. It actually has
resurrected special teams because no one participated in this. They
would just kick it through the end zone twenty and
then they even try to kick it through the twenty five.
They're like, whatever the twenty five, Well, you go to
the thirty five.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Now.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
It kind of makes me think, So, if you're gonna
force me to kick it into that little landing area,
I'm not just gonna put some random guy like me
or you back there on on my fifty three manter roster.
It's like, debo, go back there, right. Whoever on your team,
the backup running back maybe like a you know, a
thicker safety or dB that has some return skills in college,
but we're gonna take that play very We're gonna take

(44:42):
that play seriously like an offensive play, and I would
imagine anyone, you know, the media, guys that go to
or if you as a fan, go to training camp,
that period is much more serious. In practice. You have
much more data now, but like the blocking area, if
you block it well, I really might only have to
make a guy or two miss right. You know, the

(45:04):
old kickoff speed was such a huge impact, you know,
having Dante Hall or Devin Hester or way back in
the day, Dion Sanders, guys like that because you got
this running head start and it was like I needed
a lane. Well now it's much more like a running
play where I need a gap. But I also shiftiness
and this is where the running back element comes in,

(45:25):
you know, breaking little arm tackles because the guy's not
running full speed, he's only running tennis yards and really
he's breaking or shedding a tackle that the guy's right
in front of him, you know, trying to trying to
just neutralize them. So I think the play last year
was kind of a work in progress. This year, with
the tweak of extending the touchback, you know, toward the

(45:47):
offensi's goal line has just kind of added some fireworks
And now I find this play used to just you know,
if you got up, you had to take a leak.
If you got if you came back and you missed
the kickoff, and you're like, oh, they're on the twenty
two yard line. You miss nothing. Now you kind of
feel like something could happen. I mean the night all
of a sudden, Deba. I'm screaming Maria because she loves
Debo and he I thought he was first split second

(46:09):
thought he had a chance, but not quite fast enough anymore.
But he took it to like well past the fifty.
So he's a good example. I think a lot of
guys like him that are versatile players that are offensive
like you know, running backs or or have that skill
based in college, or are going to be utilized, you
know in that play. Okay, As as we headed into

(46:43):
week two, I know the people are excited because he's
back this season. He uh, he laid the foundation last
week week one, we were talking a little off air.
Is difficult, even college early on to get a feel
for you know, the transfer portal you got so many
new players can be difficult. But this man is locked
and loaded. My main man from the Action Network stuck.

(47:04):
You can find the Big Bets on campus, the Action
Network podcast, then just firing away tweets whenever games are
going on, Stucky, what's up, bro.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
What's going on? And we're in the heart of the
grind now for the foreseeable future. So yeah, football's back.
It's just like a couple of days prep as much
as possible, try to find a nap, and then it's
like five days games. It's beautiful Thursday. We got Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,

(47:34):
and then eventually we'll get some like Tuesday and Wednesday.
In Action. It's the best time of the year. So
it's good to be back.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Sometimes I yesterday I crashed, Like sometimes Wednesday midweek, I
just really you know, you peak. You know, I tell
my wife like sometimes I gotta peak at night, so
you know, in the morning, kind of leave me alone
because we've got games going on. I gotta do reaction podcasts.
It's like you know, an NBA player, they take naps
in the middle of the day because I got a
peek at that tip off. That's that's how I view

(48:00):
a football season for my couch.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
That's my my schedule. I'll like I'll watch games at
night and then I might lay down for like an
hour after all the games are over, and like maybe
midnight to one in the morning, and then I start
working at one in the morning, just going through as
many games as possible, and then I just go as
far into the day as I can until I just

(48:25):
need to take a little nap and then keep going.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Are you an Eastern time, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
And so like my schedule is during football is insane.
Like I'll have sometimes I'll have like dinner at three
in the morning, so like there's no consistency to it.
I just try to go as long as I can,
and then Thursday's podcast day and Friday's cleaning everything up,
final bets and then.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
So you basically live like a civilized domestic life, right,
you're married, you got a kid on the way, but
you also like live like you're in the casino.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yes, you know football in college basketball. Yeah, during like
the summer.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
I used to that's nine months a year.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, during the summer, so like April and then I
got to do a lot of prep work, but I
could do that like more normal hours like April, May, June, July,
part of August, like I'll sleep normal normal hours and uh,
although I'm always in night out well, and so is
my wife. We go to better like three in the morning,
there's nothing going on. But and she works in the

(49:26):
bar industry, and I'm that'll always been that way, so
it kind of works. But then we like travel, I
hang out with her and I will you know, go biking,
eat healthy and but then football starts and it's then
I'm betting the Titans. It's just irresponsible things.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, it is important whoever your significant other is, to
have similar like life schedules. If it'd be difficult. I
remember in my in my youth, you know, you just
you dabble around Delilah's in Philadelphia, the Strip Club. It's like,
if you ever, you know, got into a serious relationship,
you realize the timing, you know, of their work, your
work are off. So it does help when you're a

(50:04):
normal older person and you're on the same schedule as
the other one, because it'd be it'd be difficult if
someone's up and you're trying to sleep or vice versa.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
But uh, she found me on Twitter, followed me. We
used to go back and forth and then that's how
we met. So she knew what she was getting into,
Like there was no Hoida and she bets so she
she gets it, so like, I'm very lucky in that aspect.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Okay, let's uh, let's dive into some football. Obviously all
lines here brought to you by hard Rock Bet and uh,
let's start on on Saturday, which we actually got some
you know, pretty good. I thought last week a little
bit of a dud. I was just thinking about college football.
You you probably live for like the UH on the
East coast, the USC Michigan State in a week or
two or whenever, that game is that eight o'clock kickoff

(50:46):
that everyone's freaking out. You're like, this is this is
right in my wheelhouse. And I used to remember when
I lived in Philly and would go out on Saturday nights.
I mean back when I I could, I could hang
and you'd look up at the TV at like one
in the morning and it'd be the third quarter of
Boise State versus Oregon State. You're like, this is awesome.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yes that I always tell people that I love that
when I go out, Like I mean, I'm I'm married,
I'm watched up, I'm old, Like what what am I
I'm not talking to any girls at the bar. So
like I want to be at the bar with a
drink and then have money on a game watching a game.
But even when I'm home and I don't go out,
I am I have no matter what, no matter how

(51:25):
bad the game is, I have to watch until the
last game. Like so last week was like Hawaii Sam
Houston State till like two to forty in the morning.
But I like that part of it. Then hours are
weird for me, so like it's easy to say when
it's like that, but yeah, having a game on it
one in the morning.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
That game's next week, right that everyone's bitching a moment about.
Or is that in two weeks? Because I looked, I
thought it was this week because everyone was up in orange,
But it's not this week. I think it's in a
couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah, I think it's in two weeks.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, I mean I I have a couple of rules
I've developed if your game goes into a rain delay
or a lightning delay or a hurricane delay, and it's
not like the opening night of college football or I
mean the NFL like the Eagles, where you just it's
the only game on. But it happened in college it
obviously happened in the NFL. I'm out. I'm just I'm out,
especially if I don't have money or on my fantasy team,

(52:12):
or you're not a team that I care about, and
it's hard for me to put any value in that game.
And I also think in college, when people like oh
USC might be good or so and so might if
you've played nobody, I put no value. Like I know
Penn State's good, so them, but but I'm not putting
value in them. Just beating the shit out of people.

(52:32):
That's what they should be doing. So when you get
like Uga Tennessee or this week A and M Notre Dame,
even USF like clearly they got a boise feel to them.
They go on the road and they beat Florida, who
might end up six and six and the coach might
get fired in three or four weeks, but that is
an incredible win, right, I mean, Florida's riding high. They
start thinking, obviously probably looked ahead to LSU now looking back,

(52:53):
I mean, clearly, but let's let's start there. I know
you love it's you know you're in Kentucky, so you
know you got the big school, especially basketball school. Carry
yourselves like winners but you have a spent a soft
spot for the little guy. And listen, I'm Fresno State,
Pat Hill Boise State grew up at UC Davis, So

(53:15):
I appreciate when us f like that is an enormous
moment for that human being. Honestly, it probably changed his life, right, So, like,
if they go on to have a good season, like
there's a pretty good chance he's coaching not just at
like a decent school, like an elite school next year,
Like you'd say, what right now, fifty to fifty chants
that if he has a great season.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Yeah, could end up going to Florida. I mean he's
building that program up fire and Brown, potential pro quarterback.
He was just hurt last year. He was really good
two years ago. But he's recruiting well, building up that
roster already in South Florida. So would depending on what
happens with Napier.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Maybe can you go back to back weeks though, you
know at Florida, this game's clearly harder at Miami, but
they're getting seventeen and a half points. That number's pretty big.
But also it's like, God, are they gonna run out
of juice?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah? I played Miami here. It's a tough spot. Mine
is coming off. But bye, they're obviously not going to
overlook them, like they're ranked now. They just saw him
beat Florida, which is an embarrassing loss, and South Flordia
has had two back to back ranked wins. Like, it's
not a deep team like that is this is a
lot to ask their third straight ranked team. It's not
a terribly deep team. It's still a group of five team.

(54:21):
And they've already done what they needed to do. Like
now they can just go ten and two, win the American.
They can they can drop this game, they can drop
one more. They win the American with the hardest non
conference schedule in the country, three ranked teams, and they
win the American, have a ranked win over Boise and
a win at Florida. They're in. There's no one else
that's that's passing them from the group of five. What

(54:42):
does that mean here? Number one, they could wear down
and they don't play to just keep it competitive like
last year they got blown out in the second half
imb they lost fifty to fifteen because they play fast
and Goalsh is aggressive, but he's not just gonna be like,
you know, I want to lose by seventeen, like if
they lose by twenty eight thirty five, He's fine with it.
But I just so that they could really wear down here,
especially in the second half, because Miam' is gonna be

(55:03):
able to block them. Probably one of the best offensive
lines in college football. Beck looked really good against Notre Dame.
They have some really exciting weapons on the outside. On
the defensive side, South Florida can't really run it. They
lost a lot of backs from last year. That's kind
of their weakness. Their running game is Brown their quarterback.
But Miami's gonna be able to just drop back and
coverage here. Take away the explosive play, which is all

(55:25):
South Southwarda is. Their coach came from Tennessee, so their
offense looks like the Tennessee offense. It's like wide splits.
They go fast, they want to hit explosive plays, vertical
shots downfield. MIA's gonna be able to play coverage and
get pressure with their dns who are elite against their tackles.
When South Farda is in passing downs, that's just gonna
lead to like a lot of three and outs and
Miam's gonna have the ball a Ton. It's a third

(55:46):
straight ranked team, So I just see South Florida eventually
falling apart and just wearing down. But if I'm South
Florida and I'm looking at this, I know, I you know,
I said nicolesh always plays to win. But you might
just in the back of your head say, maybe let's
not run Brown as much. He was hurt last year.
You just need didn't stay healthy. You already did what
you needed to do.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Is he the is he genty for them? Like? Is
he the guy that's just going to carry their team? Yes,
I know he's a quarterback, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, in that boys again, he was like running over
guys for like forty yard touchdowns. He had one call
back that was on a on a BS holding. But yeah, well,
if he gets hurt, it's it's over. But he's he's
really special, so you might not run him as much here.
Like he's gotten hit a lot the last two weeks,
so like if they get down, it might be like, hey,

(56:32):
let's try to end it to our backs a little
more often. So I think Miami ends up pulling away
here and winning by three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Plus you know, obviously Florida just had not just a
devastating loss, it'd be a rough loss at home to
a non power for school. But to me, everything that
was on the line, the hype coming in. You and
I talked about him last week, like could they be
a fringe playoff team? But there was the elephant in
the room about the coach, like he was riding high
after the end of last year and after Week one,

(57:01):
but it flipped immediately back to what it was like
at this time last year. So they're going to LSU
that that game's kicking off, I mean, it's gonna be dark.
That's a place where LSU probably feeling themselves. Listen, if
you have LSU to win the national championship, this is
obviously a pretty you know, historic rivalry in college football.
These two teams play each other every year. But I

(57:22):
don't know, I mean, I I seven and a half
points a lot. But if LSU really is that good?
What if this is when Florida kind of breaks like,
is it inconceivable that this is like a forty to
thirteen game and billion apers fired on Sunday or Monday morning.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
It's hard for me to see that l Like, so
this is this year is wide of by way, like
you could tell me. Usually it's like you gotta tell
me one of three or four teams that are gonna
win the national I think this year as of right now,
this could change. And if this is because there's so
many young quarterbacks, like all these a lot of these
top teams have quarterbacks that we just don't know about.
We do know about Nussmy at LSU, we know about
Aler Penn State, but a lot of the other top teams,

(57:58):
it's like, yeah, you know, it's all they're all young
guys more who hasn't really played much. So that's there's
like eight teams you could tell me and I'd be like, okay,
I can see it. So my pick as of right
now is LSU. Now that's subject to change. And after
watching Clemson last week, maybe that maybe that first game

(58:19):
was more about Clemson than LSU. I mean Clemson. Basically,
we were down sixteen to nothing at home Detroit and
then the artist was equal at the end of the game.
They got a couple turnovers in the second half and
flipped it, but they look rough. Last week LSU against
Louisiana Tech offense didn't look great. That running game is
still not there, so the offense is still like a
work in progress. I do think the defense is significantly improved,

(58:41):
But I did that Florida plus seven and a half.
Napier has done this before, he has. They might have
been looking ahead a bit because they looked unfocused.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
How could they? How could they not because they're thinking
they win this game? They're three and oh they're top
fifteen team.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Yeah, they took them lightly. Blagway is still really young.
He has up and down games. He did this last
year and Napier after some of these games roaring this season.
His teams have bounced back. They will get a really
really important piece back in Caleb Banks, one of the
argued could be a first first round draftic wasn't played

(59:13):
yet this year. I'm ninety percent sure he'll be back.
They need him on the defensive line. Florida and there's
a chance that LSU will be without their starting center,
and if that's the case, they got to move over
this kid, dj Chester, who's not an SEC caliber center.
The original starting center was a transfer, was really good
and was going to upgrade the position. He got hurt

(59:35):
last week against LA Tech. This kid Schester was getting
pushed back by La Tech's defensive line. And so if
Banks is back and then and nus Meyer can't run,
so he's not a mobile quarterback. That's the one kind
of slight on him and what might hold him back
in the NFL because everyone is you want mobile guys. Now,
if Florida can get pressure up the middle this LSU offense,

(59:57):
this might end up being like a slog. So I
think Florida bounces back here. I took the seven and
a half. There's a chance that just look that LSU
Clemson game is more about Clemson. So I'm gonna take
the seven and a half by a little low in Florida.
Arta might get a little healthier les, you might have
some offensive LSU. Also, their tight end is probably gonna
be outraded as green good red zone threat. So one

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of the nots Meyer's most reliable targets is out. So
I took the seven and a half here. Napier has
historically been pretty good as an underdog.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I remember one of your bets last year was to
start the year A and M to make the playoffs.
Wasn't like seven or eight to one, and they were
in the mix up until that last week. Uh, that
first game of the season. I remember texting a buddy
in the NFL. He's like that quarterback play. It was
Riley Leonard versus but what was his name, Wagonman or whatever.
It ended up getting Bank who plays tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
He's the Houston starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Now, yeah, so I mean he he got bench. They
up They upgraded obviously A and M. I mean they
have been loaded since you know, Jimbo's the nil stared
they started paying dudes. They have a really good roster.
This is a must win spot for you know, Notre
Dame getting six and a half at home or you know,
favored by six and a half at home this you know,
you look at their schedule. I was at the gym
this morning and I looked up and they were kind

(01:01:10):
of going through if they were to lose this game,
even a ten and two. Now, maybe they just the
Notre Dame brand. They give them the twelve seed, but
their schedule doesn't look great. You know, really, this is
a kind of important game for them, especially coming off
that pretty devastating loss against Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Yeah, it's close to a must win. I'm not gonna
say it is a must win, but a ten and
two if you lose your the two artist games in
your schedule, and now the USC looks really good, So
I mean they could lose that game now, but that
that would be like the only game that the rest
of the schedule that you're like, Okay, this is a
great win. So it'll probably depend on what happens elsewhere,
and they will have like the momentum having won ten

(01:01:46):
in a row, but it's gonna be dicey, and you
could also say it's a must win for Texas A
and m Now they're gonna have opportunities to get back
in the seat, but their schedule is brutal. They're in
the SEC. So like, if you get this win in
your pocket, that's huge as far as trying to get
in that large So yeah, interesting game. Marcus Freeman has
been very, very good with time to prepare. He is

(01:02:08):
twelve and oh against the spread with seven plus days
to prepare, and that includes the season openers, and this
is coming into the year, so I guess he's twelve
and one now because he didn't beat Miami, but he's
historically been very good off the buy. I think he's
six and oh against the spread after a bye week,
so he's been very good. They had a bye week,

(01:02:29):
you know, you had your your freshman quarterback get a
start on the road. You can work on some things.
I do think they probably unleash their backs here text
A and M's run defense hasn't looked great. They lost
a bunch of guys to the NFL in the defensive line,
so I think you're gonna see like Notre Dame go
heavy run slot. I haven't bet this game yet, just

(01:02:50):
because the spot for Notre Dame is good. If I
had to, I'd probably take the seven. But as I
have a sneaky suspicion that this is gonna go over
forty nine and a half. Now Texas A and M
under Elco, he's like taking more over the defense this year,
really good defense. Corner of the defense was pretty bad.
Last year. It hasn't been great, and that's bad competition

(01:03:11):
so far, so that concerns me a bit. We'll see
how he plays this. Generally speaking, he wants to like
play a shell defense per ven explosive plays, so Notre
Dame might be able to just run up and down
the field. There's still some uncertainty for the quarterback. Marcel
read the A and M quarterback. He stalls questions as
Kenny throw there's young receivers will look good, but against
bad competition. It's a lot of uncertainty in this game.

(01:03:34):
Huge game for both teams. Small into the over, small lean.
I guess to A and m catching seven. But nothing strong.
I haven't played anything yet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Okay, let's dive into the NFL. A lot of divisional
matchups this weekend. Stucky we got obviously, I mean, in
all time meltdown would be strong. But you're up fifteen
points with whatever four or five minutes to go. I mean,
one of the best players of his generation fumbles the ball.
Kind of freaky issue. But let's face it, two games

(01:04:14):
in a row now the Ravens have looked dramatically better
than the Bills and they've lost. It's crazy. So because
my take was gonna behave if football was a seven
game series, the Bills would have no shot. But then
it's like, well, they've played three games and the Bills
would beat them twice in the last three. But it
does feel a little freaky, But let's dive into that game. Obviously,

(01:04:36):
coming off a devastating loss, this is you know, the
horriball Tomlin that they're good at like rallying the troops
and stuff. I don't see how you can bet Joe
Flacco in the Cleveland Browns. Listen, Week one, every team comes,
but eleven and a half points is a lot. Now,
this game's at Baltimore. But these divisional games we talked
about like this is just tough, and this is Listen.

(01:04:57):
If Cleveland ends up with a four win team first month,
they're gonna have belief in that locker room. It's the NFL.
They're relatively healthy. I mean I that that number is
pretty big. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Yeah, it's that tough game for Werena. Speare dogs in
matchups with zher on one teams, which this is even
though it probably should be a matchup of one and
zero teams. Both teams lost by one, they missed extra points.
They were the better teams in their game. But underdogs
in teams that are zero to one in Week two,
underdogs in those games are fifty three to twenty eight
and three against the spreads in two thousand and three

(01:05:28):
sixty five percent, So you know, divisional dog catching double digits.
The Browns defense did look good last week, so yeah,
if I had to play it, I would probably take
the Browns. But what I did play is I did
play the over. I played over forty five a couple
of reasons. One that lumbers just too low for the

(01:05:48):
Ravens offense. The Ravens offense is a juggernaut. They're gonna
they basically score like thirty plus every week unless they
play Steelers. Then the games like seventeen to sixteen, But
they scored thirty plus and twelve of their past fifteen
games fifteen of their pay eighteen games dating back to
the start of last year have hit at least forty
five average of fifty three in those games. And here

(01:06:10):
the Browns are gonna throw the ball time, like so
you might get a Flaco pick six of a key mistake,
but they're gonna. They're gonna he threw it forty five
times last week in a seventeen to sixteen game, Like,
so they're gonna come out chucking it's uh, by the way,
this is like revenge weekend. You got Flacco going back
to Baltimore for Baltimore's thirty year anniversary of stealing Cleveland's team,

(01:06:30):
his first time in Flaco's back on Baltimore in a
non Ravens uniform, Chiefs Eagles Super Bowl, Ben Johnson versus
the Lions, McCarthy Pennock's National title rematch, DK metcalf back
for the Seahawks. So a lot of narrative revenge games
on Sunday. But the other thing worth noting.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Here Titans ran Super Bowl ninety nine, one of.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
The best Kevin Dyson. The one of a small thing
here is that both teams might end up being extra aggressive,
which could be all the Browns because they know that
they're big underdogs here, so they might end up going
forward on fourth down a little bit more, and they
know that they have a kicker that they might not

(01:07:10):
be able to rely on because they didn't tout Schmid
and then the Ravens. All the talk all week has
been about all the blown leads over the past three
four years, all the double digit fourth quarter leads, and
it just happened. They just blew up fifteen point. They
had a ninety nine percent win probability at a fifteen
point lead with I don't know six to go. So
do you think that if they're up fourteen to fifteen

(01:07:32):
this week that they're going to stay lunch him? So
at the end of the game, you might get like
an extra punched in touchdown instead of like the team
that's up two touchdowns just goes run, run, run punt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Can you answer can you answer me this? I don't
know what year it was, but they like were ahead
of the curve and being super aggressive, and then last
week they kind of had like their potential Belichick Kevin
Falk versus Peyton Manning moment, like this guy was unstoppable
at the time, like he was on Are you stunned
that he got so conservative in that moment. I know
he's not the play caller, but it's pretty easy for

(01:08:04):
John to be like, hey, at the start of that
drive a Todd, I mean, this is what I want.
We're going fucking pedal to the medal, and it felt
like he went more old school John Harbaugh twenty twelve, like,
let's get really conservative. And this was Belichick way ahead
of the curve when fulk when he dropped the ball
or tripped or whatever happened. Looking back, like when you're

(01:08:25):
playing Josh Allen, Peyton Manning and the peak of their powers,
they're going to beat you. This is like basketball now,
especially with the rules, where good offense beats good defense.
When a guy is that hot?

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Right? Yeah, I mean he punted fourth and three that
they're own thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
But to me, even the sequence was just, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
The whole thing from first to the third down. I mean,
Lamar apparently had the option to keep it but didn't.
But yeah, I agree, it wasn't agressive enough of Lamar
was cooking that defense the entire game. But even on
the fourth and three, I would have went for it,
And I think every model would have said to go
for it. And even if you just look at it
as a basic fan, just saying you're gonna punt the
ball back to Josh Allen and he just need to

(01:09:05):
get in field goal range, like you would have been
better off not getting it and then giving up a
touchdown on the next play, and then getting the ball
back with a chance to win or tie if they
got the two, like you'd be better off than that,
then punting it and then letting Allen go and drain
the clock and kick a field goal to win it.
That was like the worst case scenario. So yeah, I

(01:09:26):
was shocked. And they have like analytics guys, they have
a guy that tells them. But the thing is that
these coaches sometimes they just.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Proverb back Mike McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Their model said to go for it fourth and one,
and he overrode it, and they kicked the fuel goal
and it ended up costing them in the game. So like,
what's the point to have in the model. I mean,
I guess it's like one input, but yeah, that's uh.
He overrode his model. I'm assuming Harball did as well.
I was shocked, So I assume that the Ravens are
gonna be There was a game where Lamar like convincing

(01:10:00):
them to go for it against the Chiefs one year
that won in the game on fourth down at home.
I expect, at least in the short term.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
The one thing though, I would say, I would say
in that game, it's a no braker, you got Lamar,
you've been kicking ass the Seattle thing. He could go, well,
kittles over in shorts and T shirt. Our defense has
been smoking hell. Trent Williams let alone their offensive line
and don't have a kicker, so we go up three,
don't have a kicker. They got ten total points. So

(01:10:30):
I do think in the flow of the game, in
the Ravens game, it had a feel of like this
is like a video all who's going to get it?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yes, I actually didn't fully disagree with the Seahawks field
goal kick, especially when you consider that, like the forty
nine ers are probably incapable of kicking a field goal
to tie it with Moody and congrats. By the way,
you don't have to a new kicker.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Only about two years too late.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
But how about that draft? What a draft? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I mean pretty bad. I mean we dive into here
in a minute. Somehow they cretured all three preseason. Everyone's
dropping like flies. The week one ends, they somehow Kittle
is out for a month and Party throws the game
winning drive in their own victory formation. Then Monday it's like, yeah,
he's out for two to five weeks. It's like what
only the Niners. I mean, you could never like it'd

(01:11:19):
be like Sean mcdermoy's like, oh yeah, Josh Allen's out
two to five weeks. We just saw him play. It's like, yeah,
he was fine, but now he's not. Like only the Niners.
It's insane, But I don't even care. I mean, I
have no take on Mac Jones versus Special Round.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
I'll give you the worst take they go over here.
I'm sing that line came down to three, the totals dropping.
I'm waiting to see how low it gets into the thirties.
I'm gonna i might bet the over. The thinking is
it's still Shanahan. The Saints defense isn't great, like, he's
still gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Like he likes mac Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
He does like mac Jones. He'll be able to draw up.
They'll be able to score some points here. The Saints offense,
it looked okay last week. Kel Moore can still call offense.
They went super fast, so they're it's gonna be like
high they say to the ball they went. They were
the fastest team in the NFL last week, so they're
going high tempo. So like indoors, two good play callers.
This gets into the thirties, it's so gross, like a

(01:12:13):
mac Jones Spencer Rattler over like. It just makes me cringe.
But that's what I'm looking at there, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
All they The Niners did play a legendary game the
first time they made the Super Bowl in nineteen against
Sean Payton and Drew Brees with Jimmy Garoppolo, who probably
played the best game he's ever played. A forty game
in New Orleans and he just he made plays like
he was like I don't know, like Tom Brady or something.
It was crazy, great game, But the Niners historically had
some great games against the Saints in the regular season

(01:12:41):
and in the playoffs. Now that's back with Sean Payton
and Harbaugh and some better Kyle's teams. But Mac Jones,
Spencer Rattler, we two buckle up. Let's this game's fascinating.
Like I'm out on Kleb Williams, not that he's just
gonna be out of the league, but like the hype,
it's just like you just can't play like that, especially

(01:13:02):
in this situation, like with this coach. It's just not
gonna work. Like people don't flip the switch of all
of a sudden. Yeah, you can just sit in the
pocket now and pick you apart, Like that's not how
he plays. You can't do that overnight and confidence and everything.
It's already spinning, it feels like. But the Lions, my
take on that game is, I know, everyone's like, oh,
they just totally sucked out. That was such a big
spot for the Packers. They had lost this team twice

(01:13:23):
last year. You had just got Micah Parsons, who's back
immediately is healthy. Of course. It's almost like they wouldn't
have given him one hundred and eighty five million dollars
if you would have had a bad back. It's like, guys,
you see how much money they just gave him, Like
what are we talking about? But the Lions like you
know better than me? Like that that offensive line, I
mean it's pretty scary, Like that's a big difference. And

(01:13:45):
that is the one concerning part because GoF can't move
and unlike Kayla Williams, who honestly is a better athlete
than the even I realized, Gof's the you know, new
version of Kirk Cousins. Like when it's on, it's on,
but when you start hitting him, it crumbles like a cookie.
That's the one thing that leaves me. But you know,
Dan Campbell off, these spots like this got Dan Campbell,
who's like the younger version of Mike Tomlin written all

(01:14:07):
over right, especially at home.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Yeah ten and n against the spread after their last
ten losses under Campbell. This is a tricky game for me, Like, yeah,
I want to sell both teams right now. Like Caleb
is still too inaccurate. He still hasn't like fully grasped
what Johnson wants to do. I'm not saying he can't
get there. I didn't think it was going to happen overnight,
but there's still there was still too much of a

(01:14:31):
gap to where I thought he has to where he
has to go to where he is right now. So
I'm curious to watch this like that development.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Part of my issue too is just kind of watching
from the I don't think the head coach this sounds
crazy because he just accepted the job, like really likes this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Guy, Like he doesn't really what he wants to do.
It's a complete That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Off And how often do we see in football where
like that creates such an ugly just relationship when the
football mesh. It could be other positions too, with you know,
big name players. When it doesn't work, it just gets
weird and it gets ugly and it just grows as
the season goes. Yeah, we see it all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Yep. Uh it's yeah. And like he's still his off
he's still his off target rate a rate percentage is
still way too high. And like I they have to
figure out a way to marry the fundamental operation of
Ben Johnson offense and then Caleb Williams his off script plays.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
How do you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
I don't know. Can they find the optimal way because
like him doing the off script plays like then he's
not running the like So I don't know. It's it's
gonna be a work in progress. The Bear's also have
a ton of defensive injuries worth monitoring. Jalen Johnson. They
have two starting corners out. Their two best corners rout
last week against the Vikings. They had a linebacker out
as well. One of their defensive starting defense tackles didn't

(01:15:50):
practice yesterday, so they have a bunch of defensive injuries.
They're in a short week. It's not a great spot
going to Detroit indoors where golf plays better. But I'm
I'm not running to the window about the true right
right now. It's the team I was selling coming into
the year. Part of it was the coordinators. And look,
it wasn't just the coordinators. They lost Ben Johnson and
then they lost Tanner extra and who went to the Jets.

(01:16:11):
I mean, look at that offense last week they were electric,
So they lost like a lot of the brains. And
last week the offense to two major problems. You highlighted one,
it's the interior offensive line. If you get interior pressure
on golf, it's over there. There's no recourse for him.
And if there's there was no easy buttons, and there

(01:16:32):
was no creativity and innovation. It doesn't mean that they
can't get there, but it was very troubling, Like he'd
you drop back I don't know, forty times to one
hundred and fifty yards, Like I get the Packers are good,
but the Packers don't have any like Pro Bowl corners.
I mean it would have. Gibbs had like ten catches
for thirty yards. Looked like a completely different offense. And
a lot of that some of that was the scheme stuff.

(01:16:53):
Maybe they'll get there, but a lot of that was
the interior pressure. That the run game still wasn't as
good upfront and the play doesn't work as good as well.
And like they have two new guards. They kicked their
worst offensive lineman into center, like they had an all
world center before they lost their best guard. So like
that's a problem. So yeah, and then what throws a

(01:17:13):
wrench in a this is like the Johnson familiarity. Like
so the Lions staff knows what Johnson likes to do,
but then Johnson knows the Lions defensive personnel. So that's
an interesting chess match, but not a team. I'm it's
probably a better spot for the Lions. It's like indoors

(01:17:34):
that Bears coming off a short week, they have injuries,
so done. In my head, I'd go Lions, but I'm
probably not betting it. Two teams that I just don't
want to put my money behind that right at this moment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
This is the biggest red flag line. I think just
something's just off here is the Pats, you know, because
you would have said, what was the look ahead line
two weeks ago in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Hats Dolphins. Uh, probably Dolphins minus three.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
So it's they're just getting normal respect, like old school
line of just the home team favored. To me. I
would have thought that maybe I had too high hopes
for the Patriots. But one thing that I might have
to come around on that people have been calling me out.
I just assumed, like, oh, Josh McDaniels, we've seen him
for decades, offensive coordinator, he's really good. And then they're like, well,

(01:18:22):
remove Brady and then dive into obviously his head coaching spots.
I don't I don't know that Rams spot. In twenty eleven,
they were statistically the worst offense. So he has some
moments where if Tom and Bill aren't standing right next
to him, it gets really weird. And it also might
be the quarterback who I just thought, I think Drake
May is gonna be pretty good player. What if he's not?
You know, what if he's not, because I thought last

(01:18:44):
game I don't give a shit what his stats were,
the eye test was.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
I was like, WHOA.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Now part of it, you could argue their personnel is
not great, but a lot of hype for this guy,
A lot of hype for this team, you know, Vrabels
not exactly. This isn't like Sean McVeigh or Kevin O'Connell,
I mean, is an old school conservative coach, but like
I would assume that, like the Patriots should dominate Miami.
But you're like, well, they've actually statistically over the years

(01:19:10):
not done as well down there, even with Bill and Tom,
And what if the Patriots just aren't good?

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Yeah, it's Brady hated. I mean, there is an advantage
for Miami homefield advantage early in the season with the
humidity the sun on on the other sidelines, So like
there's part of that. Brady like literally had his worst
games every year in Miami. It seemed like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
I desperately want to take the Patriots here, but this line.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
You could not pay me to bet the Dolphins right now.
It's Patriots or nothing. But the Patriots have like they
still have issues. We'll see if Christian Gonzalez goes. They
need him back in the secondary. I don't think he's
gonna play. But the Dolphins are a mess. Like that
was as bad of oh season opener as you will
ever see Indianapolis. And coming into the year, like we

(01:19:58):
knew that these problems existed across the roster, Like the
offensive line is one of the worst the NFL. Now
they have some injuries they're dealing with. Their secondary is
beyond repair. I mean now they lost Storm Duck who
was like their number one corner somehow, but they lost
Kay who was probably their best corner in camp. They
traded Ramsey, they traded Holland, Like their second was mess.

(01:20:19):
They're relying on like guys that they picked up two
weeks ago, So what do they do last week? It's
the Colts. They just blit they blitzed like sixty percent
of the time, like they did, because there's like, we
don't trust anyone to cover, but their secondary is horrendous,
and like Tyreek Hill has clearly lost a step. This
is like a very vow like there's a chance that
the Dolphins are like a two win team, like that

(01:20:41):
they they what they need, they need to blow this up.
And like the to his performance was even more concerning
in that this is like the system, like he's he
knows the McDaniel's system, and he looked like he was
the first time he was running the system. I mean,
he was throwing it right to the Colts.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
He was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
So like the Hill's already going nuts on the sideline.
The offensive line is a mess, the secondary is a mess.
So I would trust the Patriots much more. It's Patriots
are nothing. I went until further notice. And you know me,
I will bet on any bad team. I mean, you
should my college football card this week. I have bets

(01:21:19):
on Eastern Michigan, who just lost to Long Island. I
bet Northwestern against Oregon.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
I mean you, I bet you're not afraid.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
I will bet any bad team. I will not bet
the Dolphins right now, so Patriots or nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Well, that that's where when we go week to week,
Like you said, looking back at LSU the first couple
of weeks, we might have overvalued who they were, you know,
beating Clemson right, well, Indy you know cruises do I
mean Indy's I mean a real NFL team, And Daniel
Jones has proven like if he's playing, okay, you can
win games with him. But like that game could just

(01:21:57):
be not matter at all. And now they played Denver
bon Nicks. I mean that was as bad of a
game it's probably played as a pro. I mean, that
was a joke, just an atrocious effort. But he has
one of the best coaches in the league whose offense
is his baby, Like the offense is Sean Payton's, So
you go listen. I bet on that guy to figure
it out, to motivate, to get him in the right
head space, the guy not to go in the tank. Plus,

(01:22:19):
I would say this about bo Bow, like some of
these quarterbacks, they've seen a lot of shit in college.
I mean, the guy had like seventy five starts, had
a transfer, ran out of Auburn, So mentally I'm not
necessarily worried about him. Going into the tank, maybe like
a Drake may or a Caleb But like, I just
think this Denver defense, I mean every time you looked
up in Tennessee. Unless the Tennessee might not be that good,

(01:22:39):
but that defense is. So they got to have the
fastest defense in the league. Like when you factor in
all eleven guys their team speed. This could be a
spot where you know they're they're favored on the road.
But I couldn't you see them hold Indy like into
single digits in this game and just swarm them.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Yeah, it could just be your classic like Daniel Jones
game under pressure and one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Like seventeen a seven type game or something.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Yeah, this is a big like this is revenge weekend
though this is a revenge spot for the Colts. I
bet the Colts last year against the Broncos, they should
have like they were like catching like four Jonathan Taylor
drops the ball going into the end zone and then
their wide receiver threw a pick six somehow Ladie Mitchell
like just threw it right to the Broncos have returned it.

(01:23:23):
But yeah, that defense, they have the coverage on the
back end. It starts to Suordain and then they're able
to they can stop the run, and then it's third
and long, and then they can play cover to bring pressure.
And like cam Moore was under pressure like fifty percent
of time. By the way, I did bet the Titans
this week. I think I think he fared well given
the circumstances. You know, he lost his tackle during the game.

(01:23:44):
He was under pressure the whole time. He didn't make
any catastrophic mistakes. He looked poised. There was a bunch
of drops. He wasn't put in the best situation, but
he looked poised there in first road start in them
or not an easy place to be. They almost blew
the cover for us last week because Callahan, I'm gonna
rent for ten seconds. Some of the worst coaching I've
ever seen. The first he said in the presser he
didn't know one elbow equals two knees like iam In

(01:24:05):
I had a thirty yard catch. He didn't challenge it
because he said, oh, you need knees and elbows. No.
And then at the end of the half, one of
the worst coaching thesis I've ever seen is Denver punted
down six to three and the Titans had the ball
at the five with forty seconds to go and Denver
only had two timeouts. You run the ball, you take knees,
you can take knees. You run the ball three times,

(01:24:26):
and you go to the half up six to three
with your rookie quarterback. In Denver, they dropped back three
times incomplete, incomplete, sacked at the one, had a punt
from the one Denver scored, returned it to the twenty
and scored a touchdown. You just gave them free seven points. Luckily,
somehow Tennessee returned the kick seventy yards with like two
seconds ago and got a field goal out of it.
If they lost four net points out of it, horrendous anyway,

(01:24:49):
I had to get that off my chest.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
He seems like a nice guy. You know, he grew
up in the barrier. Is there a chance he's got
no clue what he's doing? I yes, as a head coach,
I mean, I would imagine he knows offensive quarterback play.
But as a head coach completely over skis yes.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
I would agree with that. The Titans are better, like
they're off in tear. Off the lines is better. Their
special team is way better. They were really good. They're
maybe a really good offensive line coach, tackle's still a question.
Although they upgraded a left tackle. Defense is good like
it sneed was playing. Their D line is good. But
back to the Colts Broncos. Yeah, this could just be
like old Daniel Jones right when he's under pressure constantly

(01:25:24):
in New York. It's it's just all falls apart and
he could make a bunch of mistakes here. But do
I trust bo Nicks about him as a road favorite?
Not sure. I don't know if I can get there.
He looked really poor and like he looked last year.
You gotta remember they beat one playoff team all year
if you remove Week eight team and the Chiefs sat everyone.
And he needs like to be playing from ahead and

(01:25:46):
like so like last week, he could have thrown a
couple of pick sixes that were dropped. It was bad,
But I agree with you, like he's a seasoned guy.
I don't worry about him mentally, so I can see
the Denver play.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Yeah, I mean that quarterback class went from like all
time historic to be like, well, I know Jaden's sweet
McCarthy gave me a quarter Uh. I'm not done with Pennix.
Still like him. I've loved him for years at Washington,
So I'm rooting for me. He's you can tell like
he's he's okay, he's not gonna be awful, But how
what's his ceiling? I think that was always a lot

(01:26:18):
of pushback from like the NFL people. But you got Caleb,
you got May, you got a lot of people that
were betting against bow Knicks from the jump. So when
he plays a game like that, and let's face that
game that's just bad of a game like two is
getting shit on. You could argue bo Nicks was worse
than two A. I mean the pick like the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Rookie in that game, even though Cam Woordon had like
less fewer passing yards some of Nix's reads, and like
it was bad.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
One thing about the Rams is it's that it's that
classic like ten am kickoff or a West Coast team.
It's like a four hour flight from It's just a
long hard on your body clock. I just think that's
you know, it's not like the Rams playing preseason their
body clock. They got to play their first game at home.
It's just just an interesting spot. Now again, like Tennessee
blows this and they get they lose by ten plus.

(01:27:05):
I'm not betting on him anymore, I will be out
Because I did this last year. I wrote him the
first couple weeks. I'm gonna ride him again this week.
I'm with you. Let's get to the main event, the
super Bowl rematch. He's not an underdog at home, I
would imagine very often. You know, I think everyone's writing
off the Chiefs. It's like, guys, they've been playing like
this for a couple of years, and in fairness and

(01:27:26):
even Travis like I knocked out my own guy. That's
on me. I mean, that's kind of and they were
kept saying it during the broadcast, like Andy told us.
Andy told Andy's not one of those like you know
Belichick here where he's hiding all his secrets. He's and
he's in those meetings chopping up with the guy's like
Xavid Worthy's a huge part of this game plan. He
just disappears. This is some random guy that was our
first round pick. Oh yeah, and their second round pick

(01:27:47):
where she Rice looked excellent towards ACL Slash got suspended.
So it's like, yeah, this is their offense, and Travis
is old that leaves me concerned. But this team has
a lot of championship character. That defense got shredded. Are
they just bat on d now? I have a hard
time believing that. Obviously, you know Chris Jones can be
a little bit of a hit or miss player. But
also Philly's coming off this game while they won kind

(01:28:09):
of an embarrassing situation, so I think they're going to
be motivated. But Kansas City at home, that place doing
the chop. I just to have a hard time, like,
I'm gonna take the Chiefs plus points. I've learned my
lesson over the years, though I for the first time,
I really don't feel that great about this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
I I'm with you. By the way. Two other notes,
Colts defense is improved because they got rid of Gus Bradley,
so like they're not just covered three basic And the
Rams might people outvote their guards, who are really important,
especially if you can get into your pressure with that
d line on Stafford who can't really scramble. So those
are two things that could work, and especially with the Titans,
if the Rams guards are out, that's big. But I'm
with you on the Chiefs. My Home's twelve and two

(01:28:46):
against the spread as an underdog, covering by like six
points per game is close to ninety percent against the spread.
I get it, worthy I assume it's not gonna play
Rice is out. Your running game isn't great. You know,
look in their secondary has some questions, but you just
it's just it feels like it's gonna be one of
those Chiefs games. They've extra time repair, They'll be like

(01:29:07):
a ton of Mahome scrambles. They'll be like these methodical drives.
This kid Thwarton will have like a deep touchdown or something,
and then they'll just work the middle of the field.
The Eagles safeties are vulnerable, and the Eagles defense lost
a lot. Like it's not the same calable defensive line.
It's not. They still have questions at the second cornerback spot.
And I don't like the Eagles offense. This could be

(01:29:28):
a situation like two years ago. I get it's not.
They still sayque Barkley, so it's gonna be better. But
two years ago, Brian Johnson the offensive coordinator, it was
a disaster, and you have a new offense coordinator if
they're losing Kellen Moore. It looked bad last week. Now
it's only one game, but like there was no creativity.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
It was ugly and the Chiefs can stop the run.
That's where they've been really good at the past year
and a half. So and is Aj Brown fully healthy
and DeVante Spant they were dealing with injuries, they just
were just today decided not to throw to them. I
don't know, but the Chiefs super Bowl revenge, give me
all the narratives at home a little extra time repar
Eagles do too, but I'll trust Read a little bit

(01:30:06):
more with that, And of course their defensive coordinator spec Nola,
I'm taking give me the point, the point in the
half with Mahomes, It'll just it feels to me it'll
be like one of those games where people on Twitter
like cursing, like they'll get one call they'll end up
winning on like a walk off field goal by two

(01:30:29):
on an ugly game. So yeah, do you need any
points at home with Mahomes. If there's anyone who's just
gonna will his team to a win with like you
and the receiver, it's gonna be Mahomes in this spot.
So yeah, I bet the Chiefs with you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
One thing that throws me off about this much night doubleheader,
which I'm not going to complain anymore. I was cool
with just the one game. But what are you going
to complain about two games? It is difficult when they
do the overlap, which they in a couple of weeks
that like, basically they're only separated by an hour. This
is just a legit one team. One game kicks off
at four o'clockie Pacific standa time, and the other one

(01:31:19):
right after. So it's it's a little easier to consume Tampa.
But but that's not always the case. I looked ahead
in a couple of weeks, they're going back to that
staggered thing, which I think sometimes they do that when
they're shittier matchups. It's a pretty good matchups here. Started
with the first game. You know, Baker obviously had the
huge touchdown of the game winner. Yeah, I thought Atlanta

(01:31:39):
got a little Lucky'd be wrong because they did look
like penalties. But they have like seventy five plays from
like the five yard line to at the end of
the game. Obviously he missed the field goal. I'm just
the Atlanta I'm just out on that organization. But you know, Tampa, listen,
you get a win on the road against a divisional
opponent who beat you last year, you gotta be feeling
pretty good Houston. The offense still didn't look great. Defensively,

(01:32:03):
they're gonna be pretty damn good. I don't know. I mean,
this game, I have a hard time trusting what's going
on Houston offensively. Offensive line wise, they CJ. Stratge just
hasn't looked like the same guy since the rookie that
we saw kind of take the league by storm.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Yeah, I really like, by the way, I agree with
them the Monday night because like I watch a million
games all weekend, as do we all Saturday Sunday. I'm
in my basement, I have a bunch of screens. Monday,
I want to go in my family room. I want
to have one, Like that's what. I just want to
have one game on and that's it, like Sunday night,
Monday night. So like if there's back to back, I don't,
I don't. That's perfect to me, But yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
I don't like it's clearly not just it's more than
an experiment at this point. It feels like something inevitable,
like the next TV deal or again just Monday night doubleheaders.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
Yeah, might be, it would make sense. That's probably how
you get the most amount of money possible, which is
all it's about at the end of the day. But
I really do like the Texans one of my favorite
bets of the weekend. Anything under three minus tow An
f all out there. So the Bucks last week, they
were one of the luckiest teams in the NFL that
won last week, them and the and the Steelers. The

(01:33:11):
Jets were like plus eight percent and that success right,
the Falcons were like plus seven percent. I also played
the Jets against the Bills, but the Bucks were not
good like they were they bigger Mayfield had a couple
big throws to Guka, who's going to be really good,
but other than that, they did nothing all day. They
got they they get co murdered a fourth down at
their own thirty in the game, and then the Falcons

(01:33:31):
got stuffed at the fifty. The only two quarterbacks with
the turnover worthy play rate of over ten percent from
last week, Tua and Baker. I think the Falcons dropped
four picks. One went through the hands on a touchdown,
but there was two others that were right in the hands.
They easily could have got blown out of that game.
Then obviously the Miskick Mooney didn't play, and then you

(01:33:52):
lost Drake London during the game, so like, and then
you still needed a last minute touchdown drive. It didn't
look the same. Liam Cohen was definitely missed. The run
concepts were not the same, and they're just not healthy
right now. They don't have Tristan Wurf's, they don't have Godwin,
they don't have McMillan. But because of worse, they've moved

(01:34:13):
their center to tackle their guard to center. They're other like,
they're all it's And they played the Falcons, who like
don't have a great pass rush, so that's gonna be
a problem against the Texans pass rush. The Texans also
have the corners to match up with Evans and Igbuka.
I don't and like, the run game is not there

(01:34:34):
with this offensive line and without Cohen, So like, I
don't know how the Bucks really moved the ball. And
I'm gonna trust the Texans to do enough against this
Bucks defense. It's not a great defense. Their their secondaries
gettable the thing that gives me some confidence with the
Texans offense this week. I still need to see it,
but they did. I hated Slowick. They brought in a
new offensive coordinator, so obviously it didn't look great last week.

(01:34:55):
It looked that's putting it lightly. Looked awful, but it
was a horrend this situation. They lost before the game
at Ingram at guard with like an abdomen injury. I
thought he was he was ruled out before the game.
He looked really good all in preseason. I don't know
why they did this, but once he was ruled out,
they moved Titus Howard from right tackle to right guard

(01:35:19):
and he's much better at tackle. They moved three different
positions around and then during the game Howard got their
right tackle got hurt. Then they had Fisher in there.
It was probably the worst tackle in the league. Their
center guy is that probably out for the year. I
don't know. Andrews he got hurt. So they had like
six different combinations, like all these got different guys played tackles.

(01:35:41):
And this is a first game that whole all of camp.
The offensive line that they played with, there's like one
guy in the same position and they were going up
against the Rams front nightmare scenario. So they switched everything up.
So I don't know if they're gonna do that again.
There was a chance Ingram's back and then they they'll
have Patterson come in center. And I think he's just
as fine as Andrews, so like, I don't think it

(01:36:02):
was a big drop off there. He might even be better.
But if they have Ingram Backer right guard and then
but even if they go to this weird they at
least get the practice with it, yeah all week. So
and I think the play cang will be better. So
I think that there's some hope for the Texans offense
in net respect. And the Bucks front isn't as good
as the Rams front and their secondaries gettable. I think

(01:36:23):
Nico Collins about bounce back game. So I'm going to
beat it on the Texans at home. This Bucks offense
just isn't the same right now. Lose the coordinator, offensive
line injuries, some wide receiver injuries. So yeah, give me.
They were lucky last week. And then the Texans that
you could say they were unlucky. They had all that happened,
and they saw the ball late.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Yeah, I mean they were in the game because it's
not like the Rams scoring thirty points. The one thing
I think big picture with offensive line play in general,
you know We've been talking about this probably from five
to seven years, is the the draft classes have not
been very deep used to be able to find a
lot of really good guards and centers. You know, they're
still good tackles coming in the league, you know, especially

(01:37:02):
in the first round, but there's a lot of guards
and center depth. You used to be able to find
Kelsey's and just solid players that would become Pro bowlers.
Pass like pick one hundred or one fifty. Now I
think you asked these teams like it's terrible. Obviously a
lot has to do with the offenses in college that
we watched are all spreading it out. But I think
you know, you see forty nine or land like Colton

(01:37:23):
mckibbitt sucks. Obviously he's not Lane Johnson, but I bet
they would tell you relative to the rest of the league,
it's really hard to find this player. And the drop
off for a guy that can start and like the backup,
it's really big. So if your offensive line to begin
with is not the Eagles, right, you're it's get an
average starter to begin with, so the backup is really shitty.

(01:37:43):
But all these defensive linemen in the last four or
five years have come in not just on the edge
but inside. Think how many when I was in the
NFL in like twenty ten Colin Jenkins. There's like two
or three guys that were inside pass rushers. Most guys
were like fat run stuffers. It's the opposite now. And
even the that run stuffers like Sweat or whatever Tennessee,
they're fucking athletic. I feel like every team now might

(01:38:05):
not have Aaron Donald, but they got dudes inside. You're
watching that game the other night, Bears and Vikings like
they got pretty good defensive tackle pressure. And I just
think that that's an area to watch. And that's why
some of this quarterback play when you talk about unders.
As time goes, these guys are getting injured. It's just
something to keep an eye on because when backups come in,
it could get ugly fast.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
Yeah, the Who's I always think of that guy there
was a huge I mean I always think of like
Sarah Goosa, Summer Ravens fencing him and Sam Adams. Yeah,
there was a packer that was huge.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
I forget his name, Gilbert, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
Gilbert, that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Those guys don't existing, but they don't play because you
watch college. Where do you see that in college? Like
the three hundred because people aren't running.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Flora that the Bucks drafted.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Was like four hundred fifty pounds who might.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Their only role of min now might be like the
the Toush push stopper, if they could find a way
to use them. I don't know, but yeah, like Vitavey
is huge, he super athletic. H sweat last week on
a fourth and one, made a move and blew up Nicks.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
So yeah, it's a it's a different world, And you're right.
I pay so much more attention now to offensive line
injuries because some of the drop offs are scary bad.
Like if the like the the Texans, like they have
like Fisher come in at right tackle, it's like nothing
is going get killed. Yeah, so yeah, it's a really

(01:39:30):
astute point, Like there's the depth and the quality of
the depth is just not where it once was, and
a lot of that is due to the college game.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
But yeah, you think that leads to extensions like the Raiders,
like you know Pete and John Spytech, you know Colton Miller.
He's not Trent Williams or anything. But it's like, where
we're gonna risk letting this guy go. He wants a
little more money, what else are we gonna do? You know?
So it's a no Brainer. It's like, wait, we give
him sixty million dollars over three years. Boom, here you go, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Well that's that's to bring up for the Jets. If
you can hit on a tackle in the draft right
away and then you're not paying them a ton of money.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Meg, is that guy a star?

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
They might have hit on it. I mean he had
membu He had twenty six pass protection snap pass pro snaps,
zero pressures, zero hurries, zero satsin. He was going up
against Watt and Heismith. He had a perfect clean sheet.
So they might have hit there, which is huge. And yeah,

(01:40:29):
once you once you hit on a tackle in the draft,
like just had. There's so many teams in the league.
I mean, look at the Taxans. The Texans can't figure
out their offensive line. It's just an absolute mess. And
then you have the Bucks, like you lose worfs and
it's just like what do we do we put they
put their center at tackle and you played some tackle
at duke. But like it's the depth is just because

(01:40:50):
they had this guy Heck who was the backup left tackle.
And then they realized, like over the last two weeks
that they're like, oh shit, this guy can't play, so yeah,
it can get ugly quick.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
Well that let's end with this. The second half of
the doubleheader is you know, this is why when everyone's like,
I bet Harbaugh, he he's a receiver, It's like, guys,
have you followed Harbus's career. He's not gonna take my
league neighbors overall, And obviously that saved him because no
team was more equipped to lose a star left tack
like this is not an ideal situation, but we also
have this other guy that's going to be an All
pro Pro Bowl. Guys, it was awesome. So, I mean

(01:41:25):
they looked fantastic, right, I mean, Herbert looked. I mean,
I don't know, Marino lway. I mean he was dominant
in that game. Raiders look good too. I mean Gino,
now he can be very you know, a little fire,
you know, hot and cold just you never know, but
that was hot. I mean that was Jesus Gino slinging,
especially on the road rainy conditions. Raiders look good. Now.

(01:41:49):
The Pats might not be good. We know, even if
the Chiefs have a down year, what's that ten and seven,
like worst case scenario, that's an excellent win for the
Chargers playing I don't know, fifteen hours away in Brazil
and it was games. I was impressed by the Raiders,
So I mean, I like the Raiders at home plus
three in the spot sometimes. I think sometimes in Vegas

(01:42:10):
right when they're especially the Chiefs and the Broncos, they
get a lot of those fans there Chargers. You know,
they're not exactly the Steelers or the Packers when a
couple fan bases. So this doesn't benefit the Raiders a
little bit from a crowd standpoint. I'm gonna hammer the
Raiders now, and I listen, I'm not anti the Chargers
super impressive. They're gonna be good, but I kind of
like the Raiders in this spot.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Yeah, I don't hate it. It's not now situationally, it's
early in the year, so like this probably doesn't mean
as much, but like the Chargers have a couple extra
days of prep the rest or across the country for
whatever that's worth. But uh, yeah, the Raiders' offense I
think is gonna be pretty good this year. It couldn't
really run the ball last week, but g you know,
I had the over in that game. I don't know

(01:42:53):
how that was only like twenty five points, because like
there was it was terrible. So but they're all is
gonna be pretty good. I think their offensive line as potential.
And then obviously you have Bowers. I think Bowers is
good to go. He was dealing with an injury, but
obviously you need him give you your tight ends. I
like some of their weapons, and then you upgraded a quarterback,
you have gente running back. You should have some semblance

(01:43:13):
or running game. So their offense has a lot of potential.
Their defense, the back end of their defense is real,
real bad. So like they're just gonna like play coverage
to try to prevent exposive plays and then they hope
to force a turnover, get a Crosby sack. Like that's
how the Patrick Graham is a good defense coordinator. There's
just no talent in the secondary. So Mike, I'm really curious.

(01:43:33):
I don't I don't hate taking the points of the
Raiders here. I do think they're just generally underrated across
the board. Will the Chargers come out like they clearly
just came out last week and they said we're gonna
let Herbert cook. Yeah, so do they go back to
their tendency and just and the Raiders would like this,
and just are they just going to go back to
run heavy let Herbert throw every once in a while.

(01:43:55):
I'm very curious to see how they like handle their
pass distribution this year, Like, was that just because it's like, hey,
we're playing the Chiefs, we know we got to be aggressive,
let's throw. But because Herbert looks so good so and
that Raider secondary is pretty poor. So but Gino Smith indoors,
by the way, he's always his play goes from like
here to here, So getting out of Seattle getting the

(01:44:17):
play indoors now is pretty big. So yeah, I don't
mind taking the points there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
Yeah, Roman turned into like Kevin O'Connell or Sean McVay
or Andy Reid.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
Yeah, it was a crazy thing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
It was nuts. Well stuck he man have a good
week enjoying no sleep and eating dinner at three am.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
We'll try and yeah, always a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
Usually I cook a dinner or do you like just
throw something in the microwave or I can't order or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
I'll cook probably order maybe like once or twice a week.
My wife is a really, really, really good cook, So
it's usually I cook late and then I'll just eat
left overs. But she's pregnant now, so I usually will
just cook something up. Sometimes it's just like some trader
Joe's frozen meals or but she's a good cook. I'm
a decent cook. So I probably cook like two three

(01:45:03):
times a week, order a couple, maybe a frozen meal
a couple. But when she's not pregnant, she'll cook three
or four times a week, which is nice.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
And that cooks limitations they have, the limitations they have
eating it throws the ies like it's yes, your life's
not easy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Yeah, so but she cooked. When she cooks, you'll make
like a castor like this big and so then I'll
have it for like three days and that's huge during football.
Uh So yeah, good ship, good luck this weekend, and
uh I'll talk next weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Have a great night, and uh talk to everyone Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
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