September 25, 2025 • 52 mins
Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by New York Knicks superstar Karl-Anthony Towns. Joe and Jada ask the five-time NBA All-Star about the New York Knicks offseason, their run going through the Detroit Pistons and Boston Celtics to make the Eastern Conference Finals in the last year's NBA playoffs, the gut punch that came with losing to Tyrese Haliburton's Indiana Pacers, and how New York is looking going into this season with Mike Brown taking over for head coach Tom Thibodeau. They also discuss KAT's early years being mentored by Kevin Garnett on the Minnesota Timberwolves. KAT's legendary University of Kentucky college basketball squad, and why KAT is more motivated by gaining the respect of New York than money at this point in his NBA career.
5:00 - 38-1 Kentucky team
10:00 - Getting drafted No. 1 to Minnesota
15:30 - Rookie season & KG as a mentor
17:00 - Joe tries to compliment Guerschon Yabusele
21:30 - Mike Brown taking over for Thibs
24:45 - East is wide open w/ Tatum & Haliburton out
27:00 - Jadakiss calls out the refs for KAT
34:30 - His reaction to being traded to the Knicks
36:00 - KAT's girlfriend Jordyn Woods' fashion line
38:15 - Best big man three-point shooter ever?
42:00 - KAT credits his dad for his basketball gifts
47:00 - Avenging last year's loss to Pacers in ECF
49:30 - MSG & why there's nowhere like New York
51:30 - Love for Dominican Republic
56:00 - Joe's been KAT's biggest defender in NYC barber shops
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When I was younger, it was always the chase of
like every young artist who bring up the bag the
money balling out, like I'm not fulfilled by that. In
New York, I always talk about it. It's the greatest
currency you can get in New York.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Dis Respect.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's so San Antonio, Dianah, ship boy, Jada man. You
know what it is that Joe and Jada show. Every
show legendary, every show iconic. You never know who's gonna
come sit on the blue couch. You know, I'm I'm
basketball to the death, so is my brother.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for New York Knicks,
Oh New Jersey's, Oh call it any towns.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Show me he got on special breeding. It's a special breeding.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
My godfather was Dominican. No, sir, what do you want
me to do? I gotta get a porter potty back.
I can't even make it to the bathroom now.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Saw. My godfather is a great man. My father was
a great man.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
Recipes, but my godfather he filled in wherever my mom.
My father didn't took me places and the Yankee games,
and and this ship took me to museums, and he
lived indictment, and that's how it became real tight with
the Dominican culture. The only thing I hated. They used
to make me eat the red on the beats. Oh
(02:02):
what they call that in Spanish? That it's even funniest Spanish,
the beat salad. Dominicans eat the beat salad the red.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I ain't never had that ship for you.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Beach is good ship like poison. Man, that's pets talk
to him and beat is good beats.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's spented. My they have some shit, man, yo. That
man used to force me just to damn near karate
eat that ship. He's a great man. So I always
love Dominicans. Man outside.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Oh call Anthony town Shirtski. We had your brother on recently.
We this interviewed your big Blue Nation brother, John Wall.
It was a great interview. Checked that out. No, I
love ball, so I gotta love basketball. No flags, I
love him from basketball to the heart. I'm gonna ask you.
(02:48):
You can tell me to stop anytime. I'm just gonna
act you man ship nah No uh thirty eight and
one with a Final four appearance one season Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
How was your experience? How was coach cal how was
the royalty? What was going on on campus. Let me
know some of these things.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
That's special. That place is special. It's it's crazy. I
haven't had that kind of experience with the fans appreciating
game of basketball that way until really I got here
in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Was great. But just the energy the city has for
the game.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You know, I grew up here and just noticing on
all that stuff, and I said it before, you know,
playing and you work with the Gauchos gym and everything
and always being around playing a rocket Park two and everything.
It's it was crazy to be able to kind of
relive that kind of energy basketball again. And I haven't
had that kind of experiences until I got here.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
John Woolso said he brought to our attention to college
basketball when dormant a little, it lost its fluidity a little.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
To Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Cal started rolling y'all out like y'all was celevities, like
y'all was real. People was running home, catch the games.
You don't want to miss, no games, no tournamented. He
made y'all it's like he everlutionized what was going on
with the Fab.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Five, and they they kind of paved the way.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
But when y'all got there, y'all was y'all was like
an NBA team now in college, what is that like?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I mean, we fell out rock stars there.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know, everywhere we went, you know, people noticed who
we were and then if he was the number one
guy on the team or he was at the end
of the bench, everyone was was rock stars and you
know the crazy stories being there. I'm just seeing how
the fans and interactions went, you know, March Midnight nine,
this was was something like a movie.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So it was it was.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It was crazy to have those kind of moments, and
especially with a team like that, you know, such a
historical team. Cole always told us, make sure we enjoy
these moments because you'll never have that much talent in
one room for basketball ever.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Again, that's crazy because you made John Watson said, the
cow told him, you know, make sure you take God.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It was different for us. I mean, we had nine
draft picks, you know, I think.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
We had they had five five five first none.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He was like, yo, make sure you take some guys
with you.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And the people who didn't even go to the NBA
on our team that year ended up going to the
NBA the.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Next next year.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
So he's really I mean that's real, dang man' that's
a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, I mean special, I mean like he said, it's true.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That was that that that was a key lesson for me,
like in life and even for last year too with
our team. Just stay in the president, enjoy this moment,
you know, don't worry about the future, don't worry about
what everything that could come with the situation. Just enjoy
being in the present because you're never going to get
these moments back. You may never be in the same
room again with you guys.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
He was young. Did you understand exactly what he did?
Because I did. I was young. I didn't understand that,
you know what. I was fortunate.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I had experiences that had already told me to experience
to enjoy life from the president all with you know,
my uncle passing away and little things in life that
you know, they just teach you. You know, it humbles you,
it gives you experience, It makes you understand certain things.
When you were younger, you think you know everything, and
you obviously you get older and you're like, that was
I think, you know, so I had those moments already
(06:18):
in life where appreciating the present was a big key
for me.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
You know, it's even like that now, right, Like I
got a friend of mine who doesn't need my advice.
It's got more money than me, more success than everything.
But I felt like I had to tell him some yeah,
and that that's really really hard. Even with the young kids.
Right with the young rappers. People be like, yo, why
don't you pull a young I'm like, he got a
(06:43):
young kid. There was the odds was one out of
every twenty million.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He's rich.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Now he made it happen. How the hell I'm gonna
tell him any what to do, let alone another legend. Yeah,
but I felt like I wasn't keeping it real if
I didn't say it down and tell them, Yo, look,
tell you something.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I want you to get mad at me. I want
just to mess up our relationship.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
But if you don't see what I'm telling you now,
in five years you'll understand.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Because it happened to me. People try to tell me stuff.
I'm like, Yo, what what they talking about?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Five years later, I'm sitting on a couch somewhere and
I said, damn, they try to put me on and
I was in the way of myself.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So it's just so.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Hard to be in the moment and be present because
sometimes when you overcome so many odds, like you know,
you fucking you know, you can't like who's going to
be able to.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Tell you something?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Nah, you know, you got to listen to the legends, man, yea, y'all,
y'all hip hop and culture y'all, y'all paved the way
for these, you know, the new guys to be able
to wrap that way, to be able to move that way,
to be able to wear the clothes they wear and stuff.
So it's like you got to always listen to the legends.
And for me in basketball, you know, you know, KG
was my vet.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You get into that, you know, you do with my vet.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So I came into the NBA with already have playing
with alhor front, Dominican team, the Dominican national team and stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
But then now you're going with you had that bombed
ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I have more of the old school mentality of approaching work.
You know, like you'd be the first one in the gym,
last one to lead. But in that time, it's about
the quality. It's not not about just being able to
say that you know people, you know you would be
the first ones in the gym to do nothing until
practice and then after price leave, so you know, like
actually utilizing that time, enjoy weightlifting, enjoying you know, understanding diet,
(08:34):
understanding like how to move as a professional, how to
communicate with people you know. Never one of the things
with KG was like calling everyone by their name, understanding
the ref's names, you know, like, you know, treating men
like men. You know, now I feel like you better
than anybody, and stuff like that. And he taught me
a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Twenty fifteen drafted number one. Overall, we're gonna take it
back a.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Little bit to the Miami will now, man, that sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Years blessed decade. I'm yeah, I'm blessed. He told me too.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
He's like, you're gonna blink five years, gonna go why
You're gonna blink again. You're gonna be ten years, blink again.
You gonna be like, why the hell am I.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Still doing that? So that's what they said, That's.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
What That's what he told you. How did they feel
you got drafted? Yeah, they go, this was always wanted
to know you gotta go. Next morning, you gotta go. Yeah, yeah,
next morning drafted. You drafted number one.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Whatever I had had the after party for the draft
at the Knickerbocker. And then next morning I was out
about from uh was it Farmingdale? Left from Farmingdale straight
to Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, this is going to see the Minnesota. You will know.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
No, no, no, no, there's no fluidity in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Boy, it's cold. Its fuck on minus twenty seven some days.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
This guy, Stephan Maulbury used to cry out there. He
wanted to get you. Yeah, probably could have won chips
out there. He just got out of it. He couldn't
hen was gonna quit the lead or you know, he
didn't want to be in Minnesota, and Minnesota got great
people and great man.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He wasn't used to it. Sometimes they drive underground sometimes
it's so fucking cold or something.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Oh like in Minnesota, like for instance, downtown they got
like skyways you don't actually have to walk outside, or
like for Downtown, the streets under it is under the concrete.
It's hot water circulated to help with the icey bitch,
What do you have to do when you first get
this is it? Basically the meet see the facility right
when you when you land When I landed there, guy
(10:35):
in the car went straight down to.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Target Center.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But it was Lows and had your press conference introducing
yourself to the fans, so it was it's immediate right away.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I had a bad running with that.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
They have me introduced Kember and the other guy he's
called two points and ship the nicksas like, we want
you to introduce welcome them up to the Knicks and
welcome up motherfucker they sh.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
We want you to introduce some Yo.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
We got Kimba Walker, we got who was it forty
eight something to both of them, may do ship.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'm sitting there.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
There like, yo, we're so happy that kim Many Kimber,
you don't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Don't do that. We just have a round Kimball I
did though both of them quarter the ball too though.
Really he was chass state. Whoa, there was a little
he was banged.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Up, kimble Walker poor injury, yes, yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, we gotta make some shirts, you joke, yo, We're
Kimber was hurt there.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
He got some injuries, yeah, some veament. That's not that's
not better than there's nothing better in watching him and
you call the east Man kill he killed. I remember
remember that I was back, Oh my god, against Pittsburgh too.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Was that old run though.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Last year that three point you said, whoa Whoa said,
I got a classic pick. I put up with you
and Spike right after that.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Oh yes, yes, yes, I'm trying to to your tom.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's at my house. Load your tom. It was, it's
in my house right now. Spikes, you could tweet you
got that I do. That was a legendary pick. Yeah,
I definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's so funny because I feel like rewatching that and
you see me like in that mold just aggression and
just I was talking.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
I was like, you had to spurring off off you
you burn that ship back, you do that ship you
dish you ran to the fucking bitch.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You was like yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I was like, oh my god, like I was losing
my my mam da learning.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I laughed.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I laughed because I thought when his basketball I laughed
because I was talking about it. Actually before I just
came to the podcast, I was saying, how what he
was I thinking? Because before that was the turnaround fade
away going out of bounds, and I said, you take
one bad shot to go come bound it with the
worst shot, and for me in that moment, those felt
like I was wide open.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So basket was this big. Yeah, I was. I felt
that I had a good good look. You guys have
to do that. That was that kind of man.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
We wanted to win, Man, we need to do win.
I was, I was planning. I was never playing to
lose that game. That was so I was not going
to allow that to happen.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
He played all eighty two games the twenty fifteen twenty
sixteen season, averaging eighteen point three points tenth and a
half reband not a bad record year.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, that's good, that's just that's damn Greek numbers. Is
a rookie. Yeah, what was it? What was it like?
And when was KD What kind of crazy shit? Waskg?
KG was going crazy? Man, he's that was.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I was with him on the team when he did
the when you call the Eric Gordon trash, I was
if I was with it, I was on the on
that one.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
KG don't give a fuck. I love that. You don't
bring him up enough.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
As one of the tough guys in the NBA. KG
was tough. I mean like he didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Nah, Like you know what's cool about him too? Punch
your wrap in the face. No, I'm telling you who
who he went out of way.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
I think I think they almost thought he was told
them some crazy ship.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
KG to k k K. He's yeah, a lot of
put your right, you motherfuck, he said. He didn't even
he know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
He said, before you even remember, he just don't bottom
with yourn't don't even go down that for don't let
your mind remind you that.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Was ugly one.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh my god. Kg's different, man, He's different.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And you know what, well, I was appreciating us like
his energy, you know it. It went through the whole
locker room, just like the way he approached the game,
the way he you know, he played with so much passion,
and it was cool to have something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Who's that now? Who's that on the Knicks? Now? That
got that?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Well?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Last year?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I don't think y'all got him this year. Last year
I seen, you know, our coach at the brucker. You
know what, it takes a special qualification. Hey, I want
everyone on camera understand. Everyone behind the camera said, Yo, listen,
it's hard to win them chips at the rucker butt.
It takes a special it's almost a spiritual to wake
(15:30):
everybody up and get everybody to.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Win a championship. It takes it. I seen PJ.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Tucker trying that last year on the bench, like let's go.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You know, he was who's the guy on on the
Knicks now currently that uh like let's go.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
And I feel like DJ was great for us last
year and like you said, you saw him contribute to us.
You know, I think he's like a twenty years in NBA.
You know, I'm hoping that we get to see him
in the NBA this year as well. You know, you
know I says a team haven't got a chance to
get together. Yeah, so I'm yeah, you know what I'm
trying to say to see where the vibes are at.
(16:10):
So I think that right now, you know, everyone's working
on their game to bring their best version to the
table so that we I like getting Africa CHAMPI that
just got African.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He's not he is Africa.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I'll let me tell you even pick a flag. He's
from Africa. We gotta get you a list. Can you
google where he really from? Is he from?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Not?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Jerry Man? I just told you I love the guy.
I'm a fucking huge fan. You love him? No where
he's from he's not all right?
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Can you can you cook? He's Dominican. No, not the
big African flax for that from the France. He's Dominican.
You got another Dominican on the team. Did you know
that ship? You got the wrong guy? No, you Kersehawn.
He's Dominican. We gotta get him a list.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Play that shit again. Keeps describing people by.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Y'all my mail or my mail and my man. You
know what I expected, man from you. I got to
tell you right now what you need to do. I
think I think you. I'm not telling you what to
do with your money, right, but you should have like
a foundation to sum a bunch of Dominicans every game,
(17:30):
and they playing the fucking music up on the stairs,
don't my male, my man man, and he's just going crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
It should be to.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Call as the next I expected that swear to God,
like just me being a fan.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know, I grew up Washington night, so I know
how you get down.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
So I thought you was gonna have like they was
gonna have a section up there like yo.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
He yah, all the fucking family's immigrated from the car
He's from the Congo.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Always Dominican played sot.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
He's saying, there, I know the guys from Africa.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Bro, Why are you trying to fake me out like that? Man?
Everybody from Mafic. Yes, I fucking kiss you think it's
crazy with this ship? Well? I love this. This this
is a great podcast. How does clocks and oh you
actually ship? He just told you they didn't they working?
Speaker 6 (18:37):
What are you thinking in your mind? But like, because
he's just gonna pure score.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean, for Shure, some of the bitch we need.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You always need firepower and to expect I think as
as fans it's going to be. It's as players just
you have to understand you need firepower because you never
know what's gonna in the air. You know, you never
know who's going to be healthy, you never know what's
going to happen. But if always you got a backup
plan and you got people who are just as willing
to start as anybody. I think that's what's going to
make a special You know, you got to you gotta
(19:11):
be able to have those people. Like if you look
at championship teams, you know it's most of some of
the times it's the ones that win you the championship
are not the starting five it's that guy on the
bench of Sean Livingston's Swaine.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
You got a hell of a team over there, Andre,
you got a hell of a team in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, this room is whole. Let me get because you
Yo then tweak out. You take the damn listen to this.
Let's cut the foot.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
You've got long history with tips for Minnesota all the
way over here.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
What's going on? Hey, something that I love? When people
asked me that and I said, boy, I've only been
here six months. What you want me to say? But
I just talked to Tim. He's good. We just we
had dinner and everything.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, it's politics, and ain't always see anything to play, no,
because in the in the music industry, if something happens
with the executive, I don't have no fucking I did.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I've been here, I was here six months. I have
no I was with my mans and Tims is my
man's too. Each his own body.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Patrol, that's patrol with It's like Pete and we knew
your off Listen. We just want to know. We very concerned.
You see your na.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
But shout out to him though, you know, like obviously
I was in Minnesota before I got here, But like
watching him.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Just mean I met him before. What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I definitely bring him up here. Hello, Yeah, I know
that's a good one. Tims was in my house before
I was in my house. You see, I'm building what's
your fean by that before you was in your house
(20:52):
with the both the geist is going on world wide.
West lives across the street from my house. As I
was building my house, I wasn't. I didn't even live
there yet. Fucking West gave Tims a twelve my house. Yo,
Joe's gonna put the marble bar here. He's couldna just
Tim said, Yo, you better watch your neighbors. This man
(21:13):
that took me in your house building the blue showed
them the blueprints.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
This this is where we're gonna have fool parties and
just not man.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Let me say, coach Timms, amazing job, amazing job with
the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Tims came to New York, change the culture, the whole
broad New York back to winning culture.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah. I got to the Eastern Comms Finals last year.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And that's not just the players, that's that's that's a
testament to the coaching staff, Dorothy put In, and you
got to give credit all around to that. Those guys,
you know, they put the work in and they got
us in a position and gave us a chance to succeed.
So Tims, Tims are special. I think anyone who knows
basketball knows he's special. I got nothing with that For
sim sims Man, I'm definitely.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You don't smile with nobody, and I fits to smiling
with him. He with the coach, No, I'm I used
to love sitting and watching them sit there and flip.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Talking fuck's people walking back and forth, cursing himself out in.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The side, Yo, crazy, I love I love tips Man,
And you know it's like you have any experience for
coach Brown or not.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We ain't starting, you haven't, not yet, not yet. So
but I'm excited to get to work.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You know, basketball is fun, you know, it's I know
I say work and I say job, but it really
it's when you having fun and you're passionate. I think
both of y'all know his legendsy I haven't fun and
passionate writing and making music and touring and stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
It doesn't feel like work. It feels like a blessing.
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
He's almost like a fucking Cinderella season for y'all now
you know, and no, and with no disrespect, A lot
of major guys got injured.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So you got Halliburton injured, the Star of Indiana Tatum,
you got Tatum injured, the Stars injured and traded Alston
turned up. I've never seen no ship like this. They
don't want to trade it. The whole team.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Bazilien is in Atlanta, Alfred is out, Drew Horford out
nor No, Horford's there, he's still there.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
They kept him. Yeah, Horford's still there. Drew Holliday, uh,
and he got rid of the big guy Brazilians in Atlanta. No.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
The other thing Cornett, Yeah it's Cornet, but he's in
Cordnet to the Spars or somewhere. So I would when
that happened, I know, I know, but I don't know
if they signed him back. You're already all four days ago.
You call the African guy, Dominican New y right now,
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he's going to this, He's going to the Golden State.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
You want to go to say it.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
That's a major pictation Dominican man during the NBA is
and heid.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know, I.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Understood why like playing young players don't abuse the older guys,
like like like what.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Again, yo? Know? I mean like to me, I can't
move like I moved and I was twenty years old.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
I don't care how talented and older player is your
Oh step, you gotta stop me. I can't move like
I moved twenty years ago. So like a guy like
you with no disrespect, like I would think you should
just go to the rack on our housit or they
they're just in possible. I gotta genetically, huh. I gotta
(24:41):
step in because I can't get fined and none of that.
They was you the playoffs. They was felling the hell
out of you.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Dog. This is last whole season.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I don't know it was they was it was there
was man because he came to the city and you
had the O but you got they missed a lot
of he was getting pushed off you.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You know what I mean? Yeah, a large human beings,
so you could take a regular. He's extraordinary. He's an
NBA peck.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
The serial Glissard days like yo.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
What listen?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
He jerked them on metals, yo, Yeah, don't steal my
yo yo yo yot's this year's rebue. He needs his
calls without no yo yo yo fouls send him to
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Speaker 6 (28:32):
I was gonna ask you a question right then he
cut me off because he was sticking to the script.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Then he lost his mind too. The question is you
in Minnesota?
Speaker 6 (28:42):
Yeah, I was already hearing rumors that you coming to
the next So is back when Donovan Mitchell was coming
to the Knicks, I already heard called Anthony Tael right, yeah,
and so you in Minnesota and this is home?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Right, At any point you say yourself, holy.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Ship, I might be coming to the next and you're
seeing what they're doing, and you are you saying like, yo,
I'll fit in.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I did? Did this be crazy? I would?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I would be lying if I said I didn't see
the rumors and and know that there could be truth
to them. So the the idea of coming back home
playing for It's well documented my favorite team growing up
to watch. My dad had a quick and early stint
with the with the organization back in the Patrick Hewing days,
(29:37):
so it was kind of like.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
The dad's the coolest. He shish man. He loves he
loves you all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh, he'd be there like yo, yeah, I already know
he's gonna be so happy with this podcasting.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That's what you should have brought me.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
His dad was his birthday was yesterday, so it's gonna
be your dad's birthday was good birthday?
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Rich player's birthday was yesterday? To your girlfriend? Yeah, very classy,
young lady. Uh it's fashion week and she posted that
she got a clothing line. Yeah yeah yeah on the bill.
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Ship is great.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
I can't do like Snoop, like like Snoop crushing the buildings.
But that's what that's what I came home to.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
That's what my daughter. You know, they doing this fashion.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Week ship bigger than fashion he'd be having. He told
that ship on too. He is the most fashionable NBA
player ever, Honey? Could he say that she ain't get fresh?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
But you made him ever? He made him of all times?
Do you think the most fashionable like doctor j Doctor
j come through with that ship on cash Man with.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
The most iconic pictures. Lord, where was that Joe naming
with that first? I think for me basketball wise or fashionable?
I think one of the most iconic photos of seeing
Alan Irison's mom doing his corn rolls on the bench
spot that we.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Was there for all that magic? Did it before Broadway?
Joe Withe with Michael Jackson and all women? What about
that flick magic crazy? That flick with your name is Baldi?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Ship for mex might have? Might have? He definitely did
flag in the back, passed me the flag man. What
you think man? Ship? We did four podcasts in three
days and ship we've been there.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
You go, the biggest ship, your wife, we've been Because
you know, I'm very competitive.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, so if I get it and I got into
the podcast world and be number one, we want to
be number one. You want to be the best past
I mean, but that's what That's how y'all became legends.
Ask what y'all do. Yeah, I didn't stop at being good.
It was like, I want to be great. I want
to be all time.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
That's and we got a new job it's called podcast
and boy were giving them. Hell, we've been having a
good time up here, bro. And uh now y'all y'all
taking over the podcast world. So shout out to y'all.
But y'all, I expect nothing less from y'all. Let's keeping
on the court. You you consider yourself the best big
man three point shooter? You won that won You actually
(32:19):
won the three points?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Do you have yes? No, for sure, without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
You know, I went on Mellow Show Yeah and said,
you're the greatest offensive big man in the in the
league of this time, and I caught a lot of
like I was like arguing with the whole set. And
you know, the Joker's dad nights. What do you think
about the Joker like when you look at his style
of play with what makes them great and different Hall
(32:47):
of Fame touch.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Around the basket, being able to right right hand hook,
left hand hook off the backboard, slows.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
The game, closed the game down. You know he played.
You know, I feel like I know old basketball, so
like you know him his ability to control pace. He
controls the team's pace.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
You know, John Wall what made him great when he
became an All Star was with his ability to change pace.
When he stopped going one hundred and fifty miles per hour,
and he wanted to go one fifty, to go to
twenty miles, to go to one twenty, to go to eight.
You know, I'm trying so changing a pace. Joker just
he got a Hall of Fame touchy, He's extremely smart.
His IQ's through the roof. He's able to pass, he's
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able to control the pace. The offensive scheme works with
his greatest strengths. And he has teammates that believe in him.
He has a coaching staff that believes in the organization
that believes in him. They put him in a position
to succeed. And and he deserves that kind of respect
because he put the work and he's shown the world.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That he could do this on a nightly basis. Man
shot out to Joker. Man. I mean he's he's rightfully
got those MVPs. He deserves them.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Fact, you know what you I went to one game
and I watched you at least at least I don't
want to exaggerate, but I think the numbers I counted
was like ten different moves this, yeah, three fad this that, this.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You got somebody like, what's my man? Dontavincould do the same?
He great at it.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Yeah, he got that one move right, Mellow had that
one fade away, that step had a triple threa. I
was one of the best ever. No, no, no, no,
but he really had that Yeah that Stephan. No, it's lethal,
That's what I'm saying. But I watched this man. The
reason why I made that statement on Mellow is I've
(34:41):
been watching basketball a long time. I've never seen nobody
have that variety of offense as a big man as you.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I appreciate it. So I'm sitting on the sideline with
Tracy Morgan. You know, he's a bug out.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
He's a Tracy been talking to me about the next
for how long? No, that boy's a tweaker, SI whatever.
We need Tracy Morgan on here. Because the man said
what I said. He looked like a oh yeah yeah
yo yo yo yo, he just.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yo, he says, so.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
But I've seen you bought so many moves that I
was just like, yo, this guy's like really is unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Because people always got one move, maybe two moves. You
got so many different man, you got a bag. I'm
a reactive player.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I mean, I grew up in Jersey playing in the parks,
like I said, coming to New York, playing in a
Rucker part Gaucho's. You play with older kids, You're you're
always like you're fifteen. You're playing you're seventeen.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
You know you're playing. I was even younger than that,
I was playing you sixteen, you're seventeen. You know.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
My dad and I always believed, you know, if you
want to be the best, you got to go against
the best. And when I was younger, never accept being
good like y'all, always want to chase greatness. So uh,
you know, I wanted the best competition I could find
in try state, and I wanted to test my skills
every single week.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
And that who you saw a plate? You ever watched
like a Kobe game or something like that, Like me,
we to watch wrestles, wrestlingnes no attitude and all. Yeah
with you doing that like going out in the snow,
Kobe fade away, like like who is a who was
a player that you was?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
You know? I say, you know people.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I was having this conversation the other day too. I
love that I get to talk about my life a
little bit. But I was having this conversation funny enough
with my girl, and I was saying, you know, sometimes
in life you get lucky. Sometimes does God given, and
sometimes you just work so hard that you just garner
that skill. And some for some fortunate people, they get
(36:39):
all three and they be able to have that mindset,
God and luck on their side. And I was telling her,
I said, for me, I think I really had in
a way all three coincided with my career. But I
really believe that it was really two things. The two
that I got, really that I had in my possession
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was luck. And I worked so hard to be this
good and to find a way to be great at
my craft that I just had no option other than
the plan as plan a go for NBA player. But
my luck came from my father because my father was
a high school coach, and one of the hardest things
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to do when you're young and you're broke is to
have a gym, and my dad being a high school coach,
I had keys to a hardwood floor that was great,
not like a like a hardwood floor that was like, okay,
I'm talking about a really good hardwood floor playing basketball.
So I had somewhere to work on my craft.
Speaker 9 (37:39):
And I had a father that also was athletic and
agile enough and talented enough, like I said, where he
was able to rebound for me and also understand what
I truly needed to do and.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
For me with the work aspect, you know, I had
to show up, you know, as a young kid too.
I had to dedicate my childhood, my whole childhood, like
all the things the kids got to do and stuff
and experience. I ain't get that chance because I was
in the gym and I was working sacrifice, you know,
and I was.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Willing to do that.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
And at an early age, I remember even thinking about that, like,
you know, maybe I want to go to that you
know that party obviously younger like party at whatever, maybe
trying to you don't want to go to the park
more hang out with my friends. I was, you know,
I was in the generation and still you know, someone
was home unless the bike was in front, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
So I was still in that generation.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
So I dedicated my childhood to being great at sports
and basketball and baseball was my love the basketball, and.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
To have a more little core.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I feel that that gave me a huge advantage on
the competition, and it allowed me to work on all
these moves. And I was riding back to the library
looking at getting the VHS is, putting it the VHS
in and watching you know, the great uh play chem Olaji.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Want to getting to see you know, KG, getting to
see Sam Perkins.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
For me, you know, I was looking back into day
Eddie Jones and Gary Payton and Pistol p and like
just Magic Johnson of course. So it was like one
of those things where I dedicate my childhood to studying
the game, you know, being part of the culture.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I'm very similar.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
I'm not trying to put myself on your level, but
like this guy was boring a rapper.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Look, I don't think if you ain't rap, what you
was gonna do? I mean, one of the best layers.
What are you gonna do? Say him?
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Eminem jay z Pun. These guys was born with this ship, right,
I had to shout out a pun too.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I would have been.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Best, but I had to practice. And then it was
a time where we was the hottest dudes in the world.
I mean the hottest dude.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I mean I was here. I was the one my
mom would tell me, go get the radio, put the
radio on, and you see what I'm saying. And we
and Pun, who I signed. He was my student. I
brought him in the game. He taught me how to
rap better.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
And it's summertime and they pulling up in the benzes
in the trucks and they're like Yo, it's popping be
yo over here. This is that point, be like fuck that,
we gotta write. Yeah, you gotta work on your shit.
And it's summertime, ninety something degrees and they pulling up yo's.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
We're gonna pull up on your beach.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
Yo is out there this and not ship ringing number
one on the radio, and pombers like, nah, fuck that,
we're gonna stay here. You gotta you gotta get better, bro,
you gotta get nice. You gotta get this and this
and that and that was a big yo. So many
summers I sacrificed, you know, instead of going outside and
join Like when you get a hit, like this is
(40:35):
the difference between maybe basketball and rap. Like when you
get a hit, everybody's fraying for hit. You get a hit,
you go get the bag. You're even promoting that hit
till it becomes a hit, and then once it's a hit,
you go get the bag. You can't stand in your neighbor.
You can't go to dyping and be like meaning back
and watch the crowd.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
It work like that.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
You're busy going to get the check performing all over.
We don't get same with you. You don't get that rush.
You don't get to stand there. You can't go to
York because it be like, yeah, you're too busy running
around the world.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I was, I was talking to my girl yesterday about this,
because you know, shout out to her again. She had
her She had her New York Fashion Week event here
in New York at the Knickerbocker. The photo shoot was
fly Yeah. Nah she I'm super proud of her all
the time. And I was telling her, I'm proud of her,
and I told her she had her event. Early in
the day, I went to work, I do you know,
took care of business, went to the event and I
(41:32):
told her, I said, I want you to enjoy today.
Enjoy the winds because the winds are short lived and
the losses they last for a long time.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
And I was telling her. She was like, what you mean.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I was like, let's put her just an example for
me in my life. We beat Boston. New York's going crazy.
The excitement that has never been through the roof, never
been like that in twenty five years.
Speaker 10 (41:52):
And police was letting them climb. The police man. Police
was trying to do their job. They said, he don't
let jump out. Fans celebrate, and they're not wrong. New
York's not wrong. Twenty five years you're supposed to have
these celebrations. You're supposed to, you know, learn for these.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Moments, though, no, no, go go have fun. This is
the moment.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
This is what we work for. We worked so the
fans to have moments. That ship was like a dream coming.
But literally, anybody, it's the world against New York. So
they was so let New York have a moment of celebration.
They deserve it, man. And I was what I'm going
back to the point was saying that when we won.
You know, of course it was late night when we won, obviously,
so you have that night. You know, the team got
(42:34):
together documenting we want. We went and celebrated as a
team with each other. But you know, you got four
hours we celebrate. Great job, but tomorrow it's back to work.
But the win is four hours lived.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Tomorrow's that's the worst part of the playoff, you know
what I'm trying to say, So it's not hours.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I was. I was in Dubaib when you're lost. That
ship was dating.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
So here we go get to that point. Four hours
to celebrate that win. We right back to work tomorrow.
Indiana playbook book. You know Tivs is a is a
you know, he studies.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
You know, it's like that.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
So we get these books. These they write this, this
tall they talk about yo. You know this play that play,
this play that play. We're getting quiz and stuff. So
it's full hours. You right back to the next, to
the next, to the next job. I said, but when
we lost in Indiana, drag six months. Now we wait
until September twenty second to go get back together to
try to remedy the mistake.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
So I was telling her, enjoy these moments and these wins,
because the winds are short lived and the losses last
a long time.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I mean, we're the New York next.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
Everyone every game is the championship, especially if you're playing
at the Garden, because everybody, we just John wore everybody.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
You know how many you know how many NBA players.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
I went to they house and they got the post
up when they dropped forty six against the Knicks for them,
I'm like, yo.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
You couldn't show the ship against Kobe. Yeah, bron why
guy be the next that you scored fifty on and
this and this and next. The Garden brings a different energy,
Sam Serena.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
Literally and you walking in there, even if it's a
bullshit gig, you walking in Madison squad Gune, what that
feel like?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Walking?
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Man?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
You there ain't no, there ain't no bullshit games in
the NBA. Everyone you need every win, you know, game No, I.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Agree, but I'm just saying what it feels like to you.
Do you ever go there extra early and just look
all the time and be like you all the time.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
I'm there earlier every game. I'm there games at seven thirty,
I'm their foul clock, I'm lifting, I'm on the court.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
I remember I was there so early in the playoffs.
You was doing sound check. You remember I came out.
I was listening. I decided to just to see the
performance that I was like in the game.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I'm too locked in. I'm not even gonna be one
to hear nothing else but basketball. So like every day
I show up at the garden, I know they're probably
is gonna be one kid, at least one kid, one family,
one adult that spent their last money they got for
themselves to go to a next game, and they want
to see their favorite players play. I want to show
(45:08):
up every night and play right, you know, because I
know that there's someone there that for extra hours at
their job in to spend their heart or work money
to go and watch us play, watch me play, and
they could be.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Nothing more disappointed. I mean not playing. I see you
doing a lot in the community, a lot of business.
Bench is how important is it to give back? It's
very important.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I mean this is like you said, it's God gave
me the gift, and as soon as I this credit
the gift, that will take it away.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
So I gotta pay forward.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
And the Dominican Republic doing a bunch of great work
over there for the kids and everyone, and.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Getting down with the a rod. You've been to that joint?
No I have no, I have not.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
What yo, I don't want to blow it up? Hey yeah, yeah,
it's a vacasious spot, Santo do mingo. That ship looked
like Fiji Island. I went there and chriss for my fan.
It is beyond beautiful, Like it's like it's no way
you thought on this side of the earth.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
There's something that beautiful. Man, I'm talking about Turks. This
that what what you name them? There's nothing that looks
like that everybody goes to something to Mingo.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
On the other side, for your man a Rod, I
think he invested like ten billion or something to make
some cribs over there something that what happened?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
No, no, missus, that Joe? How much the Google? Google?
Two times? Damn?
Speaker 6 (46:40):
The guy taking notes is fucking tution. Felon, Yo, good good,
hey Rod? How much money invested in Santo do Mingo
to new resort? A billion dollars? Not fad Joe fad Joe?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Right? Ten billion? One billion? What's the difference that failure?
Want failure? What you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Right?
Speaker 6 (47:03):
But I'm painting the picture you need to get with that.
I promise you that's gonna be a success out there.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
I need.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I mean, I got you. Are telling you what we're
saying that he's investing. I'm telling you what's gonna win.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
That is gonna win. Yeah, that is gonna win. The
place is it's unbelievable. I believe it's phenomenal. Yeah, three
hours away. When you go there, you're gonna be like, Yo, this.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Ship is great. But they money to go in there.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
What I will say though, is for me, I'm not
looking to make money in dr I'm looking to give
money to dr Okay, I'm trying to nurture the soil
that's there. I don't want to take anything from the
I don't want to take anything from our people.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
I want to give to our people. I want to
give him the chance people in the world. There's nothing
like Dominicans, the most fun, amazing, most given. Can we
get the best food? My male and my male and
my name and man man yo, man man man. You know.
Speaker 6 (48:04):
I got to Italian friend Stevie Modarana, one of the
best chefs in the world. He always goes yo, cuz
who don't want to be Italian? I'm ready to say,
yo yo, who don't.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Want to be? I just I just for me. God
has given me the chance.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
And I always say like, I appreciate the gift of
this game and game of basketball and the life and
luck I talked about earlier that I had, but money
is not fulfilling to me anymore. When I was younger,
it was always the chase of like every young artist
who bring up the bag the money balling out like
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Fulfilled by that. You know, I don't need that anymore.
I'm fulfilled by.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
In New York. I always talk about it. It's the
greatest currency you can get in New York.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
It's respect. That's all I look for these days is
just respect. That's all I need.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
That's that's that, you know, when that plane come back
to New York. Because you know, I live in Miami,
and yeah, when I go to Miami, I'm like, come on,
everybody want you do that? Come cause that's why. That's
what I'm thinking when that plane going down. When I
come in here and the ship coming down, I'm here,
an there's a wall going down outside, nobody's from you're
(49:13):
looking at it just feels like the.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Whole New York's a project building.
Speaker 6 (49:17):
You're looking at the plane, that shit going down, You're like,
it's a different type of teflon you gotta have. But
when you big, when the kids got your posting Coney
Island and Bay Ridge, that's what Youngest come on in
the Bronx in the hall of them in the Lower
East Side, his statnlange and they all screaming your name.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
This is.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
If you want to get popping. This is where you
want to malop. Come on, cheat, Like you said, family
making ends meet. You know, people in a two hundred
square foot apartment by hundred square foot apartment, and they
willing to dedicate some of their wall space to have you.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
On the wall.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
The love respect love is unreal. And I argue with everybody,
shout out to my man.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
We got first. I argue with all the barbers, everybody Christmas.
I was arguing for you, Rich, Where's Rich playing his
baba with dunk type.
Speaker 6 (50:12):
They traded randofs like yo, call Anthony and I love
Randall tough, God love him and family salute them. But
I was super excited and I started arguing with the
whole barber shopping and I'm like, yo, bro. And then
when it was where we went to the final, it
was our face.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
I was like, what's up? Yo? You kind of was
right just this SUFF told you. I was right. What
did we gotta do? Are we gonna see a championship
in New York City cars? That's the plan plan. I
ain't come here.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
That's the good great all time. You gotta you gotta be,
you know, striving for greatness every day. There's a lot
of guys try to get to close with no cigar.
A lot of guys is cool with being number two.
A lot of guys, you telling me that the DNA
and the mindset of the New York Knicks when they
behind the scenes and y'all together to say, Yo, we're
(51:05):
gonna win this champions I mean, did not last year
and not proved that. No, No, you know, I'm trying
to say down twenty both times game one and Game
two in Bostontal, you know what I'm trying to say.
We never thought the game was over.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
I know everyone was ready at the house, turning a
TV the other channels, watching other games. I don't know
what they was watching by the game was going, so,
you know, and trying to say.
Speaker 6 (51:27):
We are Cane is coming, babe to trade the first
podcast I came in playing that shit for what was
that that movie money Trade?
Speaker 2 (51:35):
To Train is coming baby. She was like, Yo, what's that?
I was like, Yo, the Train's coming. Yeah. I just
you just you can't let any thing cloud your mind
of the vision you got.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
And there ain't been a time we hadn't walking there
with have a championship standards, you know, and obviously last
year we came up short. He comes back twenty five
years in the making just to get to that point,
and now you know, the man, you gotta work that, Steve.
It's harder to get to the next step. What days
the Cleveland what is September? Twenty second said no, no,
(52:08):
no no, I told her. Twenty's told but twenty second.
With that being said, ladies and journal just ain't that
and that ain't this. It's tracking. Kiss makes some noise
for guess anything.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Call Anthony tex appreciate it, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
On another legendary episode of Joe and Change, whoa no
When I was younger, it was always the chase of
like every young artist who bring up the bag the
money balling out, like I'm not fulfilled by that. In
New York, I always talk about it. It's the greatest
currency you can get in New York.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Dis Respect.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's so San Antonio, Dianah, ship boy, Jada man. You
know what it is that Joe and Jada show. Every
show legendary, every show iconic. You never know who's gonna
come sit on the blue couch. You know, I'm I'm
basketball to the death, so is my brother.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for New York Knicks,
Oh New Jersey's, Oh call it any towns.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Show me he got on special breeding. It's a special breeding.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
My godfather was Dominican. No, sir, what do you want
me to do? I gotta get a porter potty back.
I can't even make it to the bathroom now.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Saw. My godfather is a great man. My father was
a great man.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
Recipes, but my godfather he filled in wherever my mom.
My father didn't took me places and the Yankee games,
and and this ship took me to museums, and he
lived indictment, and that's how it became real tight with
the Dominican culture. The only thing I hated. They used
to make me eat the red on the beats. Oh
(02:02):
what they call that in Spanish? That it's even funniest Spanish,
the beat salad. Dominicans eat the beat salad the red.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I ain't never had that ship for you.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Beach is good ship like poison. Man, that's pets talk
to him and beat is good beats.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's spented. My they have some shit, man, yo. That
man used to force me just to damn near karate
eat that ship. He's a great man. So I always
love Dominicans. Man outside.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Oh call Anthony town Shirtski. We had your brother on recently.
We this interviewed your big Blue Nation brother, John Wall.
It was a great interview. Checked that out. No, I
love ball, so I gotta love basketball. No flags, I
love him from basketball to the heart. I'm gonna ask you.
(02:48):
You can tell me to stop anytime. I'm just gonna
act you man ship nah No uh thirty eight and
one with a Final four appearance one season Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
How was your experience? How was coach cal how was
the royalty? What was going on on campus. Let me
know some of these things.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
That's special. That place is special. It's it's crazy. I
haven't had that kind of experience with the fans appreciating
game of basketball that way until really I got here
in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Was great. But just the energy the city has for
the game.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You know, I grew up here and just noticing on
all that stuff, and I said it before, you know,
playing and you work with the Gauchos gym and everything
and always being around playing a rocket Park two and everything.
It's it was crazy to be able to kind of
relive that kind of energy basketball again. And I haven't
had that kind of experiences until I got here.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
John Woolso said he brought to our attention to college
basketball when dormant a little, it lost its fluidity a little.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
To Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Cal started rolling y'all out like y'all was celevities, like
y'all was real. People was running home, catch the games.
You don't want to miss, no games, no tournamented. He
made y'all it's like he everlutionized what was going on
with the Fab.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Five, and they they kind of paved the way.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
But when y'all got there, y'all was y'all was like
an NBA team now in college, what is that like?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I mean, we fell out rock stars there.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know, everywhere we went, you know, people noticed who
we were and then if he was the number one
guy on the team or he was at the end
of the bench, everyone was was rock stars and you
know the crazy stories being there. I'm just seeing how
the fans and interactions went, you know, March Midnight nine,
this was was something like a movie.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So it was it was.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It was crazy to have those kind of moments, and
especially with a team like that, you know, such a
historical team. Cole always told us, make sure we enjoy
these moments because you'll never have that much talent in
one room for basketball ever.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Again, that's crazy because you made John Watson said, the
cow told him, you know, make sure you take God.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It was different for us. I mean, we had nine
draft picks, you know, I think.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
We had they had five five five first none.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He was like, yo, make sure you take some guys
with you.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And the people who didn't even go to the NBA
on our team that year ended up going to the
NBA the.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Next next year.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
So he's really I mean that's real, dang man' that's
a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, I mean special, I mean like he said, it's true.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That was that that that was a key lesson for me,
like in life and even for last year too with
our team. Just stay in the president, enjoy this moment,
you know, don't worry about the future, don't worry about
what everything that could come with the situation. Just enjoy
being in the present because you're never going to get
these moments back. You may never be in the same
room again with you guys.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
He was young. Did you understand exactly what he did?
Because I did. I was young. I didn't understand that,
you know what. I was fortunate.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I had experiences that had already told me to experience
to enjoy life from the president all with you know,
my uncle passing away and little things in life that
you know, they just teach you. You know, it humbles you,
it gives you experience, It makes you understand certain things.
When you were younger, you think you know everything, and
you obviously you get older and you're like, that was
I think, you know, so I had those moments already
(06:18):
in life where appreciating the present was a big key
for me.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
You know, it's even like that now, right, Like I
got a friend of mine who doesn't need my advice.
It's got more money than me, more success than everything.
But I felt like I had to tell him some yeah,
and that that's really really hard. Even with the young kids.
Right with the young rappers. People be like, yo, why
don't you pull a young I'm like, he got a
(06:43):
young kid. There was the odds was one out of
every twenty million.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He's rich.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Now he made it happen. How the hell I'm gonna
tell him any what to do, let alone another legend. Yeah,
but I felt like I wasn't keeping it real if
I didn't say it down and tell them, Yo, look,
tell you something.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I want you to get mad at me. I want
just to mess up our relationship.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
But if you don't see what I'm telling you now,
in five years you'll understand.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Because it happened to me. People try to tell me stuff.
I'm like, Yo, what what they talking about?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Five years later, I'm sitting on a couch somewhere and
I said, damn, they try to put me on and
I was in the way of myself.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
So it's just so.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Hard to be in the moment and be present because
sometimes when you overcome so many odds, like you know,
you fucking you know, you can't like who's going to
be able to.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Tell you something?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Nah, you know, you got to listen to the legends, man, yea, y'all,
y'all hip hop and culture y'all, y'all paved the way
for these, you know, the new guys to be able
to wrap that way, to be able to move that way,
to be able to wear the clothes they wear and stuff.
So it's like you got to always listen to the legends.
And for me in basketball, you know, you know, KG
was my vet.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You get into that, you know, you do with my vet.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So I came into the NBA with already have playing
with alhor front, Dominican team, the Dominican national team and stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
But then now you're going with you had that bombed
ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I have more of the old school mentality of approaching work.
You know, like you'd be the first one in the gym,
last one to lead. But in that time, it's about
the quality. It's not not about just being able to
say that you know people, you know you would be
the first ones in the gym to do nothing until
practice and then after price leave, so you know, like
actually utilizing that time, enjoy weightlifting, enjoying you know, understanding diet,
(08:34):
understanding like how to move as a professional, how to
communicate with people you know. Never one of the things
with KG was like calling everyone by their name, understanding
the ref's names, you know, like, you know, treating men
like men. You know, now I feel like you better
than anybody, and stuff like that. And he taught me
a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Twenty fifteen drafted number one. Overall, we're gonna take it
back a.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Little bit to the Miami will now, man, that sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Years blessed decade. I'm yeah, I'm blessed. He told me too.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
He's like, you're gonna blink five years, gonna go why
You're gonna blink again. You're gonna be ten years, blink again.
You gonna be like, why the hell am I.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Still doing that? So that's what they said, That's.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
What That's what he told you. How did they feel
you got drafted? Yeah, they go, this was always wanted
to know you gotta go. Next morning, you gotta go. Yeah, yeah,
next morning drafted. You drafted number one.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Whatever I had had the after party for the draft
at the Knickerbocker. And then next morning I was out
about from uh was it Farmingdale? Left from Farmingdale straight
to Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, this is going to see the Minnesota. You will know.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
No, no, no, no, there's no fluidity in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Boy, it's cold. Its fuck on minus twenty seven some days.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
This guy, Stephan Maulbury used to cry out there. He
wanted to get you. Yeah, probably could have won chips
out there. He just got out of it. He couldn't
hen was gonna quit the lead or you know, he
didn't want to be in Minnesota, and Minnesota got great
people and great man.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He wasn't used to it. Sometimes they drive underground sometimes
it's so fucking cold or something.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Oh like in Minnesota, like for instance, downtown they got
like skyways you don't actually have to walk outside, or
like for Downtown, the streets under it is under the concrete.
It's hot water circulated to help with the icey bitch,
What do you have to do when you first get
this is it? Basically the meet see the facility right
when you when you land When I landed there, guy
(10:35):
in the car went straight down to.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Target Center.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But it was Lows and had your press conference introducing
yourself to the fans, so it was it's immediate right away.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I had a bad running with that.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
They have me introduced Kember and the other guy he's
called two points and ship the nicksas like, we want
you to introduce welcome them up to the Knicks and
welcome up motherfucker they sh.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
We want you to introduce some Yo.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
We got Kimba Walker, we got who was it forty
eight something to both of them, may do ship.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'm sitting there.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
There like, yo, we're so happy that kim Many Kimber,
you don't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Don't do that. We just have a round Kimball I
did though both of them quarter the ball too though.
Really he was chass state. Whoa, there was a little
he was banged.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Up, kimble Walker poor injury, yes, yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, we gotta make some shirts, you joke, yo, We're
Kimber was hurt there.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
He got some injuries, yeah, some veament. That's not that's
not better than there's nothing better in watching him and
you call the east Man kill he killed. I remember
remember that I was back, Oh my god, against Pittsburgh too.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Was that old run though.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Last year that three point you said, whoa Whoa said,
I got a classic pick. I put up with you
and Spike right after that.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Oh yes, yes, yes, I'm trying to to your tom.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's at my house. Load your tom. It was, it's
in my house right now. Spikes, you could tweet you
got that I do. That was a legendary pick. Yeah,
I definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's so funny because I feel like rewatching that and
you see me like in that mold just aggression and
just I was talking.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
I was like, you had to spurring off off you
you burn that ship back, you do that ship you
dish you ran to the fucking bitch.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You was like yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I was like, oh my god, like I was losing
my my mam da learning.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I laughed.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I laughed because I thought when his basketball I laughed
because I was talking about it. Actually before I just
came to the podcast, I was saying, how what he
was I thinking? Because before that was the turnaround fade
away going out of bounds, and I said, you take
one bad shot to go come bound it with the
worst shot, and for me in that moment, those felt
like I was wide open.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So basket was this big. Yeah, I was. I felt
that I had a good good look. You guys have
to do that. That was that kind of man.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
We wanted to win, Man, we need to do win.
I was, I was planning. I was never playing to
lose that game. That was so I was not going
to allow that to happen.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
He played all eighty two games the twenty fifteen twenty
sixteen season, averaging eighteen point three points tenth and a
half reband not a bad record year.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, that's good, that's just that's damn Greek numbers. Is
a rookie. Yeah, what was it? What was it like?
And when was KD What kind of crazy shit? Waskg?
KG was going crazy? Man, he's that was.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I was with him on the team when he did
the when you call the Eric Gordon trash, I was
if I was with it, I was on the on
that one.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
KG don't give a fuck. I love that. You don't
bring him up enough.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
As one of the tough guys in the NBA. KG
was tough. I mean like he didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Nah, Like you know what's cool about him too? Punch
your wrap in the face. No, I'm telling you who
who he went out of way.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
I think I think they almost thought he was told
them some crazy ship.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
KG to k k K. He's yeah, a lot of
put your right, you motherfuck, he said. He didn't even
he know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
He said, before you even remember, he just don't bottom
with yourn't don't even go down that for don't let
your mind remind you that.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Was ugly one.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh my god. Kg's different, man, He's different.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And you know what, well, I was appreciating us like
his energy, you know it. It went through the whole
locker room, just like the way he approached the game,
the way he you know, he played with so much passion,
and it was cool to have something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Who's that now? Who's that on the Knicks? Now? That
got that?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Well?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Last year?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I don't think y'all got him this year. Last year
I seen, you know, our coach at the brucker. You
know what, it takes a special qualification. Hey, I want
everyone on camera understand. Everyone behind the camera said, Yo, listen,
it's hard to win them chips at the rucker butt.
It takes a special it's almost a spiritual to wake
(15:30):
everybody up and get everybody to.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Win a championship. It takes it. I seen PJ.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Tucker trying that last year on the bench, like let's go.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You know, he was who's the guy on on the
Knicks now currently that uh like let's go.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
And I feel like DJ was great for us last
year and like you said, you saw him contribute to us.
You know, I think he's like a twenty years in NBA.
You know, I'm hoping that we get to see him
in the NBA this year as well. You know, you
know I says a team haven't got a chance to
get together. Yeah, so I'm yeah, you know what I'm
trying to say to see where the vibes are at.
(16:10):
So I think that right now, you know, everyone's working
on their game to bring their best version to the
table so that we I like getting Africa CHAMPI that
just got African.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He's not he is Africa.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I'll let me tell you even pick a flag. He's
from Africa. We gotta get you a list. Can you
google where he really from? Is he from?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Not?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Jerry Man? I just told you I love the guy.
I'm a fucking huge fan. You love him? No where
he's from he's not all right?
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Can you can you cook? He's Dominican. No, not the
big African flax for that from the France. He's Dominican.
You got another Dominican on the team. Did you know
that ship? You got the wrong guy? No, you Kersehawn.
He's Dominican. We gotta get him a list.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Play that shit again. Keeps describing people by.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Y'all my mail or my mail and my man. You
know what I expected, man from you. I got to
tell you right now what you need to do. I
think I think you. I'm not telling you what to
do with your money, right, but you should have like
a foundation to sum a bunch of Dominicans every game,
(17:30):
and they playing the fucking music up on the stairs,
don't my male, my man man, and he's just going crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
It should be to.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Call as the next I expected that swear to God,
like just me being a fan.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know, I grew up Washington night, so I know
how you get down.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
So I thought you was gonna have like they was
gonna have a section up there like yo.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
He yah, all the fucking family's immigrated from the car
He's from the Congo.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Always Dominican played sot.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
He's saying, there, I know the guys from Africa.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Bro, Why are you trying to fake me out like that? Man?
Everybody from Mafic. Yes, I fucking kiss you think it's
crazy with this ship? Well? I love this. This this
is a great podcast. How does clocks and oh you
actually ship? He just told you they didn't they working?
Speaker 6 (18:37):
What are you thinking in your mind? But like, because
he's just gonna pure score.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean, for Shure, some of the bitch we need.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You always need firepower and to expect I think as
as fans it's going to be. It's as players just
you have to understand you need firepower because you never
know what's gonna in the air. You know, you never
know who's going to be healthy, you never know what's
going to happen. But if always you got a backup
plan and you got people who are just as willing
to start as anybody. I think that's what's going to
make a special You know, you got to you gotta
(19:11):
be able to have those people. Like if you look
at championship teams, you know it's most of some of
the times it's the ones that win you the championship
are not the starting five it's that guy on the
bench of Sean Livingston's Swaine.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
You got a hell of a team over there, Andre,
you got a hell of a team in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, this room is whole. Let me get because you
Yo then tweak out. You take the damn listen to this.
Let's cut the foot.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
You've got long history with tips for Minnesota all the
way over here.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
What's going on? Hey, something that I love? When people
asked me that and I said, boy, I've only been
here six months. What you want me to say? But
I just talked to Tim. He's good. We just we
had dinner and everything.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, it's politics, and ain't always see anything to play, no,
because in the in the music industry, if something happens
with the executive, I don't have no fucking I did.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I've been here, I was here six months. I have
no I was with my mans and Tims is my
man's too. Each his own body.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Patrol, that's patrol with It's like Pete and we knew
your off Listen. We just want to know. We very concerned.
You see your na.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
But shout out to him though, you know, like obviously
I was in Minnesota before I got here, But like
watching him.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Just mean I met him before. What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I definitely bring him up here. Hello, Yeah, I know
that's a good one. Tims was in my house before
I was in my house. You see, I'm building what's
your fean by that before you was in your house
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with the both the geist is going on world wide.
West lives across the street from my house. As I
was building my house, I wasn't. I didn't even live
there yet. Fucking West gave Tims a twelve my house. Yo,
Joe's gonna put the marble bar here. He's couldna just
Tim said, Yo, you better watch your neighbors. This man
(21:13):
that took me in your house building the blue showed
them the blueprints.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
This this is where we're gonna have fool parties and
just not man.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Let me say, coach Timms, amazing job, amazing job with
the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Tims came to New York, change the culture, the whole
broad New York back to winning culture.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah. I got to the Eastern Comms Finals last year.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
And that's not just the players, that's that's that's a
testament to the coaching staff, Dorothy put In, and you
got to give credit all around to that. Those guys,
you know, they put the work in and they got
us in a position and gave us a chance to succeed.
So Tims, Tims are special. I think anyone who knows
basketball knows he's special. I got nothing with that For
sim sims Man, I'm definitely.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You don't smile with nobody, and I fits to smiling
with him. He with the coach, No, I'm I used
to love sitting and watching them sit there and flip.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Talking fuck's people walking back and forth, cursing himself out in.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The side, Yo, crazy, I love I love tips Man,
And you know it's like you have any experience for
coach Brown or not.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We ain't starting, you haven't, not yet, not yet. So
but I'm excited to get to work.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You know, basketball is fun, you know, it's I know
I say work and I say job, but it really
it's when you having fun and you're passionate. I think
both of y'all know his legendsy I haven't fun and
passionate writing and making music and touring and stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
It doesn't feel like work. It feels like a blessing.
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
He's almost like a fucking Cinderella season for y'all now
you know, and no, and with no disrespect, A lot
of major guys got injured.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So you got Halliburton injured, the Star of Indiana Tatum,
you got Tatum injured, the Stars injured and traded Alston
turned up. I've never seen no ship like this. They
don't want to trade it. The whole team.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Bazilien is in Atlanta, Alfred is out, Drew Horford out
nor No, Horford's there, he's still there.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
They kept him. Yeah, Horford's still there. Drew Holliday, uh,
and he got rid of the big guy Brazilians in Atlanta. No.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
The other thing Cornett, Yeah it's Cornet, but he's in
Cordnet to the Spars or somewhere. So I would when
that happened, I know, I know, but I don't know
if they signed him back. You're already all four days ago.
You call the African guy, Dominican New y right now,
(23:45):
he's going to this, He's going to the Golden State.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
You want to go to say it.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
That's a major pictation Dominican man during the NBA is
and heid.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know, I.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Understood why like playing young players don't abuse the older guys,
like like like what.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Again, yo? Know? I mean like to me, I can't
move like I moved and I was twenty years old.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
I don't care how talented and older player is your
Oh step, you gotta stop me. I can't move like
I moved twenty years ago. So like a guy like
you with no disrespect, like I would think you should
just go to the rack on our housit or they
they're just in possible. I gotta genetically, huh. I gotta
(24:41):
step in because I can't get fined and none of that.
They was you the playoffs. They was felling the hell
out of you.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Dog. This is last whole season.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I don't know it was they was it was there
was man because he came to the city and you
had the O but you got they missed a lot
of he was getting pushed off you.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You know what I mean? Yeah, a large human beings,
so you could take a regular. He's extraordinary. He's an
NBA peck.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
The serial Glissard days like yo.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
What listen?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
He jerked them on metals, yo, Yeah, don't steal my
yo yo yo yot's this year's rebue. He needs his
calls without no yo yo yo fouls send him to
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Speaker 6 (28:32):
I was gonna ask you a question right then he
cut me off because he was sticking to the script.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Then he lost his mind too. The question is you
in Minnesota?
Speaker 6 (28:42):
Yeah, I was already hearing rumors that you coming to
the next So is back when Donovan Mitchell was coming
to the Knicks, I already heard called Anthony Tael right, yeah,
and so you in Minnesota and this is home?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Right, At any point you say yourself, holy.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Ship, I might be coming to the next and you're
seeing what they're doing, and you are you saying like, yo,
I'll fit in.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I did? Did this be crazy? I would?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I would be lying if I said I didn't see
the rumors and and know that there could be truth
to them. So the the idea of coming back home
playing for It's well documented my favorite team growing up
to watch. My dad had a quick and early stint
with the with the organization back in the Patrick Hewing days,
(29:37):
so it was kind of like.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
The dad's the coolest. He shish man. He loves he
loves you all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh, he'd be there like yo, yeah, I already know
he's gonna be so happy with this podcasting.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
That's what you should have brought me.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
His dad was his birthday was yesterday, so it's gonna
be your dad's birthday was good birthday?
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Rich player's birthday was yesterday? To your girlfriend? Yeah, very classy,
young lady. Uh it's fashion week and she posted that
she got a clothing line. Yeah yeah yeah on the bill.
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Ship is great.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
I can't do like Snoop, like like Snoop crushing the buildings.
But that's what that's what I came home to.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
That's what my daughter. You know, they doing this fashion.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Week ship bigger than fashion he'd be having. He told
that ship on too. He is the most fashionable NBA
player ever, Honey? Could he say that she ain't get fresh?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
But you made him ever? He made him of all times?
Do you think the most fashionable like doctor j Doctor
j come through with that ship on cash Man with.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
The most iconic pictures. Lord, where was that Joe naming
with that first? I think for me basketball wise or fashionable?
I think one of the most iconic photos of seeing
Alan Irison's mom doing his corn rolls on the bench
spot that we.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Was there for all that magic? Did it before Broadway?
Joe Withe with Michael Jackson and all women? What about
that flick magic crazy? That flick with your name is Baldi?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Ship for mex might have? Might have? He definitely did
flag in the back, passed me the flag man. What
you think man? Ship? We did four podcasts in three
days and ship we've been there.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
You go, the biggest ship, your wife, we've been Because
you know, I'm very competitive.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, so if I get it and I got into
the podcast world and be number one, we want to
be number one. You want to be the best past
I mean, but that's what That's how y'all became legends.
Ask what y'all do. Yeah, I didn't stop at being good.
It was like, I want to be great. I want
to be all time.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
That's and we got a new job it's called podcast
and boy were giving them. Hell, we've been having a
good time up here, bro. And uh now y'all y'all
taking over the podcast world. So shout out to y'all.
But y'all, I expect nothing less from y'all. Let's keeping
on the court. You you consider yourself the best big
man three point shooter? You won that won You actually
(32:19):
won the three points?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Do you have yes? No, for sure, without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
You know, I went on Mellow Show Yeah and said,
you're the greatest offensive big man in the in the
league of this time, and I caught a lot of
like I was like arguing with the whole set. And
you know, the Joker's dad nights. What do you think
about the Joker like when you look at his style
of play with what makes them great and different Hall
(32:47):
of Fame touch.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Around the basket, being able to right right hand hook,
left hand hook off the backboard, slows.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
The game, closed the game down. You know he played.
You know, I feel like I know old basketball, so
like you know him his ability to control pace. He
controls the team's pace.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
You know, John Wall what made him great when he
became an All Star was with his ability to change pace.
When he stopped going one hundred and fifty miles per hour,
and he wanted to go one fifty, to go to
twenty miles, to go to one twenty, to go to eight.
You know, I'm trying so changing a pace. Joker just
he got a Hall of Fame touchy, He's extremely smart.
His IQ's through the roof. He's able to pass, he's
(33:28):
able to control the pace. The offensive scheme works with
his greatest strengths. And he has teammates that believe in him.
He has a coaching staff that believes in the organization
that believes in him. They put him in a position
to succeed. And and he deserves that kind of respect
because he put the work and he's shown the world.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That he could do this on a nightly basis. Man
shot out to Joker. Man. I mean he's he's rightfully
got those MVPs. He deserves them.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Fact, you know what you I went to one game
and I watched you at least at least I don't
want to exaggerate, but I think the numbers I counted
was like ten different moves this, yeah, three fad this that, this.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You got somebody like, what's my man? Dontavincould do the same?
He great at it.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Yeah, he got that one move right, Mellow had that
one fade away, that step had a triple threa. I
was one of the best ever. No, no, no, no,
but he really had that Yeah that Stephan. No, it's lethal,
That's what I'm saying. But I watched this man. The
reason why I made that statement on Mellow is I've
(34:41):
been watching basketball a long time. I've never seen nobody
have that variety of offense as a big man as you.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I appreciate it. So I'm sitting on the sideline with
Tracy Morgan. You know, he's a bug out.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
He's a Tracy been talking to me about the next
for how long? No, that boy's a tweaker, SI whatever.
We need Tracy Morgan on here. Because the man said
what I said. He looked like a oh yeah yeah
yo yo yo yo, he just.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yo, he says, so.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
But I've seen you bought so many moves that I
was just like, yo, this guy's like really is unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Because people always got one move, maybe two moves. You
got so many different man, you got a bag. I'm
a reactive player.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I mean, I grew up in Jersey playing in the parks,
like I said, coming to New York, playing in a
Rucker part Gaucho's. You play with older kids, You're you're
always like you're fifteen. You're playing you're seventeen.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
You know you're playing. I was even younger than that,
I was playing you sixteen, you're seventeen. You know.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
My dad and I always believed, you know, if you
want to be the best, you got to go against
the best. And when I was younger, never accept being
good like y'all, always want to chase greatness. So uh,
you know, I wanted the best competition I could find
in try state, and I wanted to test my skills
every single week.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
And that who you saw a plate? You ever watched
like a Kobe game or something like that, Like me,
we to watch wrestles, wrestlingnes no attitude and all. Yeah
with you doing that like going out in the snow,
Kobe fade away, like like who is a who was
a player that you was?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
You know? I say, you know people.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I was having this conversation the other day too. I
love that I get to talk about my life a
little bit. But I was having this conversation funny enough
with my girl, and I was saying, you know, sometimes
in life you get lucky. Sometimes does God given, and
sometimes you just work so hard that you just garner
that skill. And some for some fortunate people, they get
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all three and they be able to have that mindset,
God and luck on their side. And I was telling her,
I said, for me, I think I really had in
a way all three coincided with my career. But I
really believe that it was really two things. The two
that I got, really that I had in my possession
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was luck. And I worked so hard to be this
good and to find a way to be great at
my craft that I just had no option other than
the plan as plan a go for NBA player. But
my luck came from my father because my father was
a high school coach, and one of the hardest things
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to do when you're young and you're broke is to
have a gym, and my dad being a high school coach,
I had keys to a hardwood floor that was great,
not like a like a hardwood floor that was like, okay,
I'm talking about a really good hardwood floor playing basketball.
So I had somewhere to work on my craft.
Speaker 9 (37:39):
And I had a father that also was athletic and
agile enough and talented enough, like I said, where he
was able to rebound for me and also understand what
I truly needed to do and.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
For me with the work aspect, you know, I had
to show up, you know, as a young kid too.
I had to dedicate my childhood, my whole childhood, like
all the things the kids got to do and stuff
and experience. I ain't get that chance because I was
in the gym and I was working sacrifice, you know,
and I was.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Willing to do that.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
And at an early age, I remember even thinking about that, like,
you know, maybe I want to go to that you
know that party obviously younger like party at whatever, maybe
trying to you don't want to go to the park
more hang out with my friends. I was, you know,
I was in the generation and still you know, someone
was home unless the bike was in front, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
So I was still in that generation.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
So I dedicated my childhood to being great at sports
and basketball and baseball was my love the basketball, and.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
To have a more little core.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I feel that that gave me a huge advantage on
the competition, and it allowed me to work on all
these moves. And I was riding back to the library
looking at getting the VHS is, putting it the VHS
in and watching you know, the great uh play chem Olaji.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Want to getting to see you know, KG, getting to
see Sam Perkins.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
For me, you know, I was looking back into day
Eddie Jones and Gary Payton and Pistol p and like
just Magic Johnson of course. So it was like one
of those things where I dedicate my childhood to studying
the game, you know, being part of the culture.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I'm very similar.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
I'm not trying to put myself on your level, but
like this guy was boring a rapper.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Look, I don't think if you ain't rap, what you
was gonna do? I mean, one of the best layers.
What are you gonna do? Say him?
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Eminem jay z Pun. These guys was born with this ship, right,
I had to shout out a pun too.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I would have been.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Best, but I had to practice. And then it was
a time where we was the hottest dudes in the world.
I mean the hottest dude.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I mean I was here. I was the one my
mom would tell me, go get the radio, put the
radio on, and you see what I'm saying. And we
and Pun, who I signed. He was my student. I
brought him in the game. He taught me how to
rap better.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
And it's summertime and they pulling up in the benzes
in the trucks and they're like Yo, it's popping be
yo over here. This is that point, be like fuck that,
we gotta write. Yeah, you gotta work on your shit.
And it's summertime, ninety something degrees and they pulling up yo's.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
We're gonna pull up on your beach.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
Yo is out there this and not ship ringing number
one on the radio, and pombers like, nah, fuck that,
we're gonna stay here. You gotta you gotta get better, bro,
you gotta get nice. You gotta get this and this
and that and that was a big yo. So many
summers I sacrificed, you know, instead of going outside and
join Like when you get a hit, like this is
(40:35):
the difference between maybe basketball and rap. Like when you
get a hit, everybody's fraying for hit. You get a hit,
you go get the bag. You're even promoting that hit
till it becomes a hit, and then once it's a hit,
you go get the bag. You can't stand in your neighbor.
You can't go to dyping and be like meaning back
and watch the crowd.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
It work like that.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
You're busy going to get the check performing all over.
We don't get same with you. You don't get that rush.
You don't get to stand there. You can't go to
York because it be like, yeah, you're too busy running
around the world.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I was, I was talking to my girl yesterday about this,
because you know, shout out to her again. She had
her She had her New York Fashion Week event here
in New York at the Knickerbocker. The photo shoot was
fly Yeah. Nah she I'm super proud of her all
the time. And I was telling her, I'm proud of her,
and I told her she had her event. Early in
the day, I went to work, I do you know,
took care of business, went to the event and I
(41:32):
told her, I said, I want you to enjoy today.
Enjoy the winds because the winds are short lived and
the losses they last for a long time.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
And I was telling her. She was like, what you mean.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I was like, let's put her just an example for
me in my life. We beat Boston. New York's going crazy.
The excitement that has never been through the roof, never
been like that in twenty five years.
Speaker 10 (41:52):
And police was letting them climb. The police man. Police
was trying to do their job. They said, he don't
let jump out. Fans celebrate, and they're not wrong. New
York's not wrong. Twenty five years you're supposed to have
these celebrations. You're supposed to, you know, learn for these.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Moments, though, no, no, go go have fun. This is
the moment.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
This is what we work for. We worked so the
fans to have moments. That ship was like a dream coming.
But literally, anybody, it's the world against New York. So
they was so let New York have a moment of celebration.
They deserve it, man. And I was what I'm going
back to the point was saying that when we won.
You know, of course it was late night when we won, obviously,
so you have that night. You know, the team got
(42:34):
together documenting we want. We went and celebrated as a
team with each other. But you know, you got four
hours we celebrate. Great job, but tomorrow it's back to work.
But the win is four hours lived.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Tomorrow's that's the worst part of the playoff, you know
what I'm trying to say, So it's not hours.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I was. I was in Dubaib when you're lost. That
ship was dating.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
So here we go get to that point. Four hours
to celebrate that win. We right back to work tomorrow.
Indiana playbook book. You know Tivs is a is a
you know, he studies.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
You know, it's like that.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
So we get these books. These they write this, this
tall they talk about yo. You know this play that play,
this play that play. We're getting quiz and stuff. So
it's full hours. You right back to the next, to
the next, to the next job. I said, but when
we lost in Indiana, drag six months. Now we wait
until September twenty second to go get back together to
try to remedy the mistake.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
So I was telling her, enjoy these moments and these wins,
because the winds are short lived and the losses last
a long time.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I mean, we're the New York next.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
Everyone every game is the championship, especially if you're playing
at the Garden, because everybody, we just John wore everybody.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
You know how many you know how many NBA players.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
I went to they house and they got the post
up when they dropped forty six against the Knicks for them,
I'm like, yo.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
You couldn't show the ship against Kobe. Yeah, bron why
guy be the next that you scored fifty on and
this and this and next. The Garden brings a different energy,
Sam Serena.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
Literally and you walking in there, even if it's a
bullshit gig, you walking in Madison squad Gune, what that
feel like?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Walking?
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Man?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
You there ain't no, there ain't no bullshit games in
the NBA. Everyone you need every win, you know, game No, I.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Agree, but I'm just saying what it feels like to you.
Do you ever go there extra early and just look
all the time and be like you all the time.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
I'm there earlier every game. I'm there games at seven thirty,
I'm their foul clock, I'm lifting, I'm on the court.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
I remember I was there so early in the playoffs.
You was doing sound check. You remember I came out.
I was listening. I decided to just to see the
performance that I was like in the game.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I'm too locked in. I'm not even gonna be one
to hear nothing else but basketball. So like every day
I show up at the garden, I know they're probably
is gonna be one kid, at least one kid, one family,
one adult that spent their last money they got for
themselves to go to a next game, and they want
to see their favorite players play. I want to show
(45:08):
up every night and play right, you know, because I
know that there's someone there that for extra hours at
their job in to spend their heart or work money
to go and watch us play, watch me play, and
they could be.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Nothing more disappointed. I mean not playing. I see you
doing a lot in the community, a lot of business.
Bench is how important is it to give back? It's
very important.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I mean this is like you said, it's God gave
me the gift, and as soon as I this credit
the gift, that will take it away.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
So I gotta pay forward.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
And the Dominican Republic doing a bunch of great work
over there for the kids and everyone, and.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Getting down with the a rod. You've been to that joint?
No I have no, I have not.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
What yo, I don't want to blow it up? Hey yeah, yeah,
it's a vacasious spot, Santo do mingo. That ship looked
like Fiji Island. I went there and chriss for my fan.
It is beyond beautiful, Like it's like it's no way
you thought on this side of the earth.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
There's something that beautiful. Man, I'm talking about Turks. This
that what what you name them? There's nothing that looks
like that everybody goes to something to Mingo.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
On the other side, for your man a Rod, I
think he invested like ten billion or something to make
some cribs over there something that what happened?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
No, no, missus, that Joe? How much the Google? Google?
Two times? Damn?
Speaker 6 (46:40):
The guy taking notes is fucking tution. Felon, Yo, good good,
hey Rod? How much money invested in Santo do Mingo
to new resort? A billion dollars? Not fad Joe fad Joe?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Right? Ten billion? One billion? What's the difference that failure?
Want failure? What you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Right?
Speaker 6 (47:03):
But I'm painting the picture you need to get with that.
I promise you that's gonna be a success out there.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
I need.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I mean, I got you. Are telling you what we're
saying that he's investing. I'm telling you what's gonna win.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
That is gonna win. Yeah, that is gonna win. The
place is it's unbelievable. I believe it's phenomenal. Yeah, three
hours away. When you go there, you're gonna be like, Yo, this.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Ship is great. But they money to go in there.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
What I will say though, is for me, I'm not
looking to make money in dr I'm looking to give
money to dr Okay, I'm trying to nurture the soil
that's there. I don't want to take anything from the
I don't want to take anything from our people.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
I want to give to our people. I want to
give him the chance people in the world. There's nothing
like Dominicans, the most fun, amazing, most given. Can we
get the best food? My male and my male and
my name and man man yo, man man man. You know.
Speaker 6 (48:04):
I got to Italian friend Stevie Modarana, one of the
best chefs in the world. He always goes yo, cuz
who don't want to be Italian? I'm ready to say,
yo yo, who don't.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Want to be? I just I just for me. God
has given me the chance.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
And I always say like, I appreciate the gift of
this game and game of basketball and the life and
luck I talked about earlier that I had, but money
is not fulfilling to me anymore. When I was younger,
it was always the chase of like every young artist
who bring up the bag the money balling out like
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Fulfilled by that. You know, I don't need that anymore.
I'm fulfilled by.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
In New York. I always talk about it. It's the
greatest currency you can get in New York.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
It's respect. That's all I look for these days is
just respect. That's all I need.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
That's that's that, you know, when that plane come back
to New York. Because you know, I live in Miami,
and yeah, when I go to Miami, I'm like, come on,
everybody want you do that? Come cause that's why. That's
what I'm thinking when that plane going down. When I
come in here and the ship coming down, I'm here,
an there's a wall going down outside, nobody's from you're
(49:13):
looking at it just feels like the.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Whole New York's a project building.
Speaker 6 (49:17):
You're looking at the plane, that shit going down, You're like,
it's a different type of teflon you gotta have. But
when you big, when the kids got your posting Coney
Island and Bay Ridge, that's what Youngest come on in
the Bronx in the hall of them in the Lower
East Side, his statnlange and they all screaming your name.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
This is.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
If you want to get popping. This is where you
want to malop. Come on, cheat, Like you said, family
making ends meet. You know, people in a two hundred
square foot apartment by hundred square foot apartment, and they
willing to dedicate some of their wall space to have you.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
On the wall.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
The love respect love is unreal. And I argue with everybody,
shout out to my man.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
We got first. I argue with all the barbers, everybody Christmas.
I was arguing for you, Rich, Where's Rich playing his
baba with dunk type.
Speaker 6 (50:12):
They traded randofs like yo, call Anthony and I love
Randall tough, God love him and family salute them. But
I was super excited and I started arguing with the
whole barber shopping and I'm like, yo, bro. And then
when it was where we went to the final, it
was our face.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
I was like, what's up? Yo? You kind of was
right just this SUFF told you. I was right. What
did we gotta do? Are we gonna see a championship
in New York City cars? That's the plan plan. I
ain't come here.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
That's the good great all time. You gotta you gotta be,
you know, striving for greatness every day. There's a lot
of guys try to get to close with no cigar.
A lot of guys is cool with being number two.
A lot of guys, you telling me that the DNA
and the mindset of the New York Knicks when they
behind the scenes and y'all together to say, Yo, we're
(51:05):
gonna win this champions I mean, did not last year
and not proved that. No, No, you know, I'm trying
to say down twenty both times game one and Game
two in Bostontal, you know what I'm trying to say.
We never thought the game was over.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
I know everyone was ready at the house, turning a
TV the other channels, watching other games. I don't know
what they was watching by the game was going, so,
you know, and trying to say.
Speaker 6 (51:27):
We are Cane is coming, babe to trade the first
podcast I came in playing that shit for what was
that that movie money Trade?
Speaker 2 (51:35):
To Train is coming baby. She was like, Yo, what's that?
I was like, Yo, the Train's coming. Yeah. I just
you just you can't let any thing cloud your mind
of the vision you got.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
And there ain't been a time we hadn't walking there
with have a championship standards, you know, and obviously last
year we came up short. He comes back twenty five
years in the making just to get to that point,
and now you know, the man, you gotta work that, Steve.
It's harder to get to the next step. What days
the Cleveland what is September? Twenty second said no, no,
(52:08):
no no, I told her. Twenty's told but twenty second.
With that being said, ladies and journal just ain't that
and that ain't this. It's tracking. Kiss makes some noise
for guess anything.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Call Anthony tex appreciate it, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
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