September 26, 2025 • 57 mins
Nick Wright previews Week 4 of the NFL season, starting with both his Kansas City Chiefs and Damonza’s Baltimore Ravens trying to avoid a 1-3 start when they play each other this weekend. Will Lamar Jackson finally get the best of Patrick Mahomes? Then, Nick breaks down what he expects out of Micah Parsons in his return to Dallas when the Green Bay Packers take on Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. After, Nick discusses what version of Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles he expects to see against Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Later, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #Volume
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in What Driving the Great Episode three seventy. This episode,
as always, is brought to you by our friends at
boost Mobile. Another reminder for everybody, the week four Gambling
Show comes out Friday morning with our five picks that could.
We almost had. I text Demanse midway through Sunday football
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and I was like, I'm staring oho and five in
the face and oh and five is tough to recover from. Luckily,
the Chargers rallied and then the Lions were never a
doubter or getting four and a half, and so two
and three we can deal with. So you know what
I mean, the you treading water in that regard. So
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that the gambling and Pick show comes out tomorrow. Also
a little note that is relevant probably more to the
Blue Duck and Volume crew than it is. And I'm
trying to hold back a sneeze than it is to Demanse,
but to not tomorrow Friday bucket list might be strong
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but close to bucket list event for me as and
maybe I said this on Tuesday, and I'll remember going
to the Writer Cup, the Rider Cup held every two years,
every only every four years? Is it in the US.
It's the US against great Britain or the US against Europe.
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Pardon me, it's either in Great Britain or the US
Golf tournament being held at Bethpage Black and Me, Danny
and Hubbs whole. First things, First, crew going out there,
so I can't that'll be that'll be all time see
Rory se Scheffler and in what will be a really
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raucous crowd. Now here's a thing before we get to
the show, which is a little tricky, okay, Tomansey. So
first of all, it's on Long Island. The Ryder Cup
is very patriotic typically you know when it's in it
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When it's in Europe, the crowd is rooting for the
Europeans when it's here, like people are wearing flags and stuff.
That the Long Island golf patriotic crowd is not the
patriotic part about it, But the Long Island golf crowd,
it's not really my crowd to begin with. You then
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add to it, I might have with our friends at
hard Rock Bet made a few wagers on Europe and
so so so I might I might be out there.
I think I'm gonna have to at least be appearing
to root for the home side. But I'm gonna have
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a financial interest in Europe potentially winning. It could create
some awkward spots for me out there, but I'm very
very excited to go. So I'm doing that. And the
other thing. Saturday. Saturday one of the best college football
slates in years, and so we'll touch on that at
some point a bit today. But you have obviously Georgia Bama,
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you have Penn State, Oregon. You have just great games
all over the place. Let's get, however, to straight the
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Zion looking great, saying he hasn't felt this great since college.
He looked awesome. Man. I hope he can stay healthy.
I still I have not sold all my Zion stock.
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I like when he came into the league, I said
he had MVP potential, and to me, he kind of
immediately showed it those first couple of years when he played.
He just obviously couldn't stay healthy. As when he'll stay
in shape. Jason Tatum, he hasn't ruled out playing this season.
I will be rooting for him to do it. I
think that would be a very tough putt, but I
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thought he did a really good job talking about yesterday
about how vulnerable he felt, how sad he was, and
you know, being open about that. So I was happy
he'd be ready for that, right, I don't know. I mean,
he the Achilles is typically not a nine month injury.
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It's a true twelve month injury. And twelve months obviously
would be like round two of the playoffs. And would
you want his first action to be in the playoff cauldron?
I don't know. Listen, I am. I'm rooting for all
these guys to get back early, but I so I'm
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not going to put a ceiling on what he can do.
And I know that he has been rehabbing his ass off.
It seems it seems ambitious. But yeah, but listen, I'll
root for him. And then tonight Arizona Seattle in a
Thursday night game that I listen. I know both these
teams have good records, both these teams are two and one.
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I'm excited to actually have this be the only game
on because it will give me an opportunity to probably
watch these teams closer than I've watched them up to
this point. I know that I said a few weeks
ago that that Thursday night game could be you know,
a date night Thursday night. I've decided I'm gonna because
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they're both at this point, relevant teams get an opportunity
to watch them. So like rate subscriber review to the
pod on YouTube, on iTunes, on Spotify, wherever you do it.
And now we get to the early season game of
the year this Baltimore has been involved. There have been
three games of the year so far, Bill's Ravens to
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open the season, Chiefs Eagles in week two, and now
Bill's Ravens week four. I'm sorry, Chiefs Ravens week four.
So the Chiefs or the Ravens have been involved in
all three of the biggest games of the year. Let's
get right to it.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, so your Chiefs of my Ravens face off this weekend. Yeah,
they're both looking at one and three starts between the two.
Who do you think has more on the line?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I listen, I saw Orlovsky this morning, say it's clearly
the Chiefs. I know that the Chiefs are the team
that people have been far more panicked about than Baltimore.
I think people have this flatly wrong. It is to me,
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unquestionably Baltimore that has more on the line, and it
is for two very distinct reasons that apply to Baltimore
in a way they don't apply to Kansas City. The
first one is this, if we believe these even though
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one of these teams is going to be one in three,
that both of these teams still bill have Super Bowl aspirations,
and that Baltimore certainly still has Super Bowl aspirations, they
have to win this game for two reasons that are
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related to each other. One is, maybe by winning this game,
you won't have to go through Kansas City in the playoffs.
And by winning this game, if you do have to
play Kansas City in the playoffs, you have some reason
to believe you can beat them. Lamar and the Ravens
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have lost five of the six games they've played against
Patrick and the Chiefs. They have lost four in a row.
They have lost in Baltimore, they have lost in Kansas City. Lamar,
who has the highest passer rating in the history of
the NFL, has an eighty passer rating against the Chiefs.
Lamar has not played a singularly great game against Kansas
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City except for one time. The one time they won,
and I think that was thirty six thirty five after
Clyde Edwards Hilaire fumble and then Baltimore went for a
fourth down smartly late nice the game. There is a
massive psychological edge the Chiefs have over the Ravens, and
even if the Ravens win this game, they are not
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going to have a psychological edge on Kansas City. And
so like if the Ravens win, the Chiefs are not
going to if they were to play in the playoffs,
go into that game thinking we can't beat this team.
But if the Chiefs win, how can Baltimore credibly think
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that the Chiefs don't simply have their number? And so
I also think that the Ravens upcoming if they fall
to one in three, a team that oddly to me,
and we talked about it a lot Tuesday, felt tight
and anxious in their game against Detroit. Their next two
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games home for the Texans with a great defense but
a terrible offense, and then home for the Rams. That's
concerning the Chiefs. Meanwhile, the game after this is Jacksonville.
Now you can say Jacksonville is better than Houston, and
I know they're two and one, Houston's zero and three,
and Jacksonville just beat Houston. It still feels to me
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like Houston has a higher upside potentially than Jacksonville. So I, yeah,
that's what I was about to saying, right, correct, Then no,
then they have the Lions. But I also think because
after the Lions, the Chiefs get Rashi Rice back, that
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there is a level of okay, Like let's say they
lose to Baltimore and lose the Alliance and they're and
they beat Jacksonville and they're two and four. Getting Rashi
Rice back, I still feel like the team psychologically will
feel like, all right, yeah, now we're finally whole. Yeah,
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let's just we're not gonna have home field, We're probably
not gonna win the division. Let's just see if we
can get in and be scary. I and that is
that's one of the reasons that I just listen, I'm
not gonna panic about either of it for a few weeks. Yeah, well, correct,
Like I just unless you are going to go as
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far as to say Kansas City, I fear is going
to miss the postseason. I don't think anybody actually believes
they're not a terrifying team once the postseason begins. Even
if they get there by going ten and seven, they
got there by going eleven and six two years ago
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and won the Super Bowl, going to Buffalo, going to Baltimore,
And so I just I also think there is a
level of in the commentariat offensive bias that is showing
up in the way we talk about Buffalo. I'm sorry Baltimore.
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In Kansas City, Kansas City's offense has been its biggest concern.
Kansas City's offense kind of across the board is mid
their average, they're thirteenth in this seventeenth and that fourteenth
and this fifteenth and that they're just average, and that
has caused massive concern. Baltimore's defense has been its problem,
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and they're awful in everything and that so the side
of the ball Kansas City is struggling on. They're struggling
to the tune of being average. The side of the
ball Baltimore is struggling on. They're struggling to the tune
of being horrible. And there is go ahead.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
With that said about Baltimore's defense, If Kansas City still
if the offense still struggles.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Then what Yeah, that even with well Worthy's coming back too,
so the so that's a good question. If they win
a low scoring game, I do, then that is great.
You know what, I like if they win, if they
win the score the way they beat Baltimore in the
AFC Title Game seventeen to ten, then I and the
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offense doesn't cook, but they win, I don't care. I
do not care if they don't, you know so, because
I also but now if they let me eat, I'm
gonna say a bunch here if they lose. If Baltimore
scores a ton and the Chiefs just can't keep up
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and they lose twenty eight thirteen something like that, that'll
be concerning about what the Chiefs offense actually is and
how much just getting Rashi Rice back will fix it.
I also have and I don't know if statistically this
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has been proven or even it can be backed up
or anything, but it feels to me like very often
games take on a personality, and like one of the
reasons Cowboys Giants was high flying the way it was
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was the off one team's offense, but get another team's offense.
Does that make sense? Like it was that that game
led to the personality. Almost of that game was quick drives,
deep bombs, You score, I score, you score, I score.
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The very next week, that same Giants offense played a
Chiefs team that was stuck in the mud, long drives,
no explosives, and they didn't have any. So I so
that's the same Giants offense right now. The Chiefs defense
is obviously better than the Cowboys defense, but not thirty
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five points better, you wouldn't think. And yet that's you know,
that's what we got in that game. And so my
point is this, I think the Ravens offense, I don't
think this is going to be a thirty one to
twenty eight game. I think this is far more likely
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to be a because we the Eagles can be high
flying and high scoring, the Chargers can be high scoring.
Both teams have played the Chiefs and the game has
kind of taken on the personality of the current Chiefs,
which is these long drives, fight for yards. And I
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don't think that's just because of the Chiefs defense. I
think that. Again, I can't prove it, and maybe what
I'm saying right now sounds weird, but I just think
sometimes games take on, like I said, a personality almost
and there is somehow a butterfly effect of one team's
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offense hitting deep shots leading to another team's offense hitting
deep shots. It's just from my exp because here's the
other thing that's really weird about kind of consuming football
and how we feel watching it. So you would agree
Tomanse that that Chiefs Giants game, the Chiefs offense looked
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hard to watch and stagnant. Yeah, right, that it was
a bad offensive game and they finished with twenty It
would have been twenty three, but twenty two points because
they missed the extra point. You would agree, So the
Chiefs in that game scored twenty two. You would agree
that Ravens Lions. The Ravens offense was moving the ball
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seemingly at will, and the problem in that game wasn't
the offense. Yeah, And you would have felt that way
even if they didn't get that garbage time touchdown. You know,
when they were down fourteen. The Ravens going into garbage
time of that game had twenty four points, and it
felt like the offense was doing whatever it wanted. The
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Chiefs fought and clawed an ugly football, scored twenty two points,
and it felt like the offense could do nothing. So again,
I'm not what I'm kind of almost talking about like
ideas here Giants. No, I agree, but the Giants defense
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is supposed to be decent and the and we don't
look at the Lions as a great defense. And so
the point I'm making is sometimes you can score twenty
four points and it can look it can feel like
your offense was humming, and you can score twenty three
points and it can feel like your offense couldn't do anything.
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And so I just feel like we are going to
get a slugfest in Kansas City where every yard is
going to be, you know, hard to get. Because and
here's the other reason. I don't think Baltimore's past defense
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is as bad as the numbers suggest. I think their
run defense is horrible, truly horrible. And I just don't
know if the Chiefs have the personnel to take full
advantage of a horrible run defense like that. That was
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the story of Ravens Lions was the run defense. And
so I if there was ever gonna be a time
for Pacheco to look like Pacheco from a couple of
years ago, this would be this game. I just don't
know if they had it, I don't know, but I.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Would you say, I do go ahead, Who do you
think on your team needs to step up the most
in this game?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I think this is what have I said about Travis.
They's got five or six great games left in it. Yeah,
this would be a good time for one of them. Yeah,
he's he's had a rough start to the season. He
has owned this matchup. Getting Worthy back should open things
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up in the middle of the field a little bit more.
And Tae Kwan Thornton all of a sudden you have
to take him seriously, at least as a deep threat.
And so I this would be a nice Travis Kelsey game.
I am I believe. Listen, I think Kansas.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
City is that's a crazy question, but.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Badly. Yes, absolutely, And now listen, I'm gonna be holding
my breath on the Worthy stuff because we're only a
few weeks removed from that shoulder dislocation, and he's gonna
the further down the road we get, the stronger that
shoulder gets. So I don't think Worthy is gonna be
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like super featured in the game plan, but I think
just having him out there should help quite a bit.
Uh no surprise here. One of my picks on the
gambling show is gonna be the Chiefs plus the points
because I think they're gonna win. Uh Demons and I
will make We're gonna figure out some type of wager
to make on this game. It won't be financial, but
(20:20):
some type of woyager to make on this game. Uh
tomorrow during the gambling show. I have some ideas. I
think a few have some ideas that it feels like
it can be financial on my end, But I the
I won't, I I listen, I won't. I won't accept
the request or the or the transfer if it's from you.
(20:43):
I'm not taking money from you. So it's gotta be more.
It's gotta be you are gonna have to do something
and I'm gonna have to give something. Is I think
the way to make this bet feel something. We'll figure
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Speaker 2 (23:06):
Parsons is returning to Dallas to face to face Dallas.
I'm sorry. He said it's gonna be very difficult to
sack that Dak Prescott Greenway.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Hold on, He didn't say it was gonna be difficult,
like hard to do people like emotionally difficult. Hard.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Green Bay's offense get it, gets a chance to rebound
on that crummy Dallas defense. Jesus Christ, who has a
bigger statement to make. Jordan Love in the offense or
Micah Parsons in the defense, I would say.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yes, no question about it. I listen, Jordan Love. Brew
picked Jordan Love and he wasn't the only one to
win League MVP this year. I think Jordan Love having
that mindset would be terrible for the Packers. He does
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not have to be great, He has to be steady
in a weird way, even though they're incredibly different players
and it's for incredibly different reasons. Jordan Loved to me
is in the same boat as Jared Goff. Now, Golf
(24:25):
is in the boat as far as responsibility to the team,
and the responsibility is make the plays that are there,
don't make big mistakes. And for Golf, they are an
offensive first team and that's his responsibility. But it's because
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they have so many dynamic weapons, right, So he just
don't be the reason you lose. Green Bay doesn't have
nearly the weapons Detroit has. What they have though, is
a dominant defense and an opportunistic defense. And what Love
simply can't do is what he did last week that
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that interception to the the best offensive play of the
year thus far, was Justin Herbert's touchdown pass last weekend,
shaking off the rusher, stepping up in the pockets, slinging
it almost side armed on a dime. The worst offensive
play of the year this season was Jordan Love's interception
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to the Facto. Lose that Browns game, and if the
Packers end up in a shootout, then then we can
take the training wheels off a bit. But they're not
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in a They thus far have not been in shootouts. Now.
Our producer Daniel, who is a Packer fan, says two
has had fifty worst plays. I disagree. I'm talking about
the day. It was the only way for Green Bay
to lose that game, So I'm not listen. Cam Ward's
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had some brutal plays, obviously, there have been some in
a vacuum plays that looked worse or you know, than
the Jordan Love play. What I'm saying is snatching a
victory out of the jaw, No, snatching a defeat out
of the jaws of victory for a team that had
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no business losing that game. That Jordan Love play is
my first draft pick of it, and I think against
the Cowboys defense, you're gonna have plenty of layups that
can be big plays. And I do think Micah is
gonna have his damn hair on fire. And I think
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the Cowboys with no CD lamb and I think with
Tyler Booker or their first round pick out, this game
could be ugly. Now, the Cowboys have enough offensive firepower
that I don't think I'm gonna lay the seven points
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on the road with Green Bay. But I do think
that it is far more likely the Packers blow out
the Cowboys than it is the Cowboys win again. I
demon's I don't give you teaser coaching, but I'm telling
you right now, if I were doing a teaser this weekend,
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teasing green Bay down to a pick them is like
a must have leg. I just think there is what
you have the other way on it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Uh no, no, no, no, I've got something on it.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I didn't think that au.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
But yeah, that's just going against all your rules. It
shocks me.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
But yeah, what's my rules? What do you mean? Zero? Well,
I I also would do you like eight? But you
like eight point teasers. I'm just saying the old traditional
six point teaser the getting Yes, I mean, I don't
the I think of teasers in six point denominations. Uh,
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So what if if I were doing a six point
teaser this weekend, having green Bay down to either minus
a half point or minus one would be a must
have because I just do not see a path for
Dallas to win this game. And I think this is
here's my Jerry Jones take. I think the reason Micah
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is not getting a tribute video is because Jerry Jones
is embarrassed. And I think Jerry Jerry loves a spectacle.
Jerry loves a show. Jerry loves more, you know, an event,
and I think that under normal circumstances, he would announce
We're gonna do something special for Micah Parsons. I think
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Jerry does not want to see the Cowboys fans in
Jerry World stand and applaud Micah Parsons, and that's why
he's not getting it. And so standing ovations. Oh yeah,
absolutely they do. But this is and so listen. I
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love the Packers this week, and I think it's a
get right spot and I think they will get right. Uh.
And I think Michael will have a big game. Uh,
the Cowboys might. Now Micah might have a big game
by virtue of creating pressure for other people to clean
up on the sacks or getting double teamed. The Cowboys
(30:05):
might be like, Mike is just not going to be
the one who beats us, So be it buying Micah's
impact will be felt heavily on this game.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Uh.
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Let's get to another huge game this weekend.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, your guy Baker takes on Philly this weekend and
the last couple that well, the Bucks are very banged up.
By the way, the last couple of times they've faced Philly,
they have they've beaten them. And what version of the
Philly offense do you think they we're gonna get well.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
So this is interesting. The Eagles are on this seventeen
game winning streak when Jalen starts and finishes games that
game started. The last time they lost, I should say,
was against Tampa. Tampa did beat them in the playoffs soundly.
I think Jalen's like one in four in his career
against Tampa and an unbelievable record against everybody else. I
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am worried about Tampa this weekend because the injuries are crazy,
and it is cluster offensive line injuries, which is the
cluster injuries are one thing. Cluster offensive line injuries are disastrous.
So Tristan Wurf's still you know, they're still trying to
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get him back. They've got two other offensive linemen on
the ir so you're potentially down three offensive linemen. Mike
Evans is not going to play. You worry Levonte David.
It popped up on the injury report it and by
the way, Baker was limited in practice this week. Now
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the Eagles are dealing with injuries of their own. But
it's not on the offensive line. I know Lane Johnson
suffered the stinger on everyone's favorite play, the Early Bird,
but the Bucks might be too banged up in this spot,
and it is to me a really concerning injury spot
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for Tampa. Because of that Demonse, I think that the
Eagles should open it up offensively. I just don't think
now the injuries for Tampa, to be clearer, are Tampa's
offensive side of the ball. It's not that I'm saying
the injuries are going to make the Tampa defense susceptible.
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What I'm saying is I think Philly has a bit
of a margin of error here to play with. And
I also think with Saquon not playing great and he
just hasn't yet, maybe he will, but he is a
lot of carries. Last year, with aj Brown clearly wanting
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you to open it up, with the game play in
last week being so disastrous that you found yourself in
that massive hole, and with jail and taking care of
the football, there just isn't a big argument in my opinion,
to not have an aggressive downfield passing game plan to
just see how it works, because if they show that
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early in games, I believe it will lead to Saquon
popping again. I think right now, teams early in games
are so convinced that Philly is just gonna run, run, run,
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that they are able to stack the box against Saquon,
and that's one of the reasons he's not having the
success that he has had previously. And so I think
that there is a real opportunity for Philadelphia here to
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put really scary stuff on tape for upcoming opponents of
a pass heavy early game script that could pay real
dividend down the year, down the road, even if they
want to lean more on Saquon, you know, in higher
leverage spots. I understand this is a huge game because
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both these teams are undefeated. They're both, in my opinion,
legitimate Super Bowl contenders. But Philly cannot go into this
game with the game plan they had last week. You
just can't. You have not been since Becton's gone, you
haven't been as dominant of a run blocking team. Lane
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Johnson's a little banged up, Your receivers are a little frustrated.
Your quarterbacks seemed, you know, frustrated during the game about
the game plan, like open it up. And I don't
think Jalen's going to turn the ball over a bunch. Now.
Maybe listen, maybe it doesn't work and you go back
to you know, you're in a rough spot early in
(35:56):
the game, but you were in a rough spot last
week against a really good RAM team and came all
the way back. Like I just I think Philly has
to lean on jail in a little bit more this
week and see how it plays out, like.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
All the margin for air and stuff. If Baker were
to go out and win the game, would you make
him your MVP favorite?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Listen, I think he's got a legitimate MVP case right now.
The media is focused far more heavily on Herbert and Josh,
and that's fine, but the three last second victories by
Baker have put him in the mix. And if you remember,
(36:42):
you know my prediction that the Bucks get the one seed.
Winning this game would put them in such a great
spot to potentially be the one seed if they can
steal this victory against Philly, because as I said when
I picked them to be the one seed, I just
(37:03):
want to remind everyone this is how Tampa ends the year.
Final What is this? Five games? Cardinals, Saints Falcons? No,
I'm sorry, Final six games Cardinals, Saints, Falcons, Panthers, Dolphins, Panthers.
(37:26):
So if they get to four and oh, right, and
then they can just go four and three in the
tough part of their schedule, which you know starts here.
But I'm saying if they get to it, because they
then at Seahawks home for the Niners, at the Lions,
(37:48):
at the Saints, home for the Patriots, at the Bills,
at the Rams. If they get to four and oh,
they have a very real chance of being eight and three,
or call it even seven and four through those eleven games,
and then you rip off six straight to end the year.
(38:09):
You're a thirteen to fourteen win team. If you win
this game, and you have the tiebreaker with Philly, you
probably don't even need. If you win this game, you
might be able to be the one seed with twelve wins,
because if Philly ends with twelve, you get the one seed.
(38:32):
So this would be an unbelievable stolen win for Tampa
given how injured they are. But I think this is
gonna be. This is a really really rough spot for them,
and I think Philly is the right side in this game.
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Speaker 2 (40:36):
So they are not letting russcook anymore. In New York,
it's Jackson Dart time. They put him in a kind
of a weird time. This could be a blessing or
a curse. They are playing the Chargers and they have
a top ranked defense. How do you see things going
for Jackson Dart in the Chiants.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I think they might get a temporary shot in the arm.
I'm not right. Listen, They're in New York. I think
that defense is good. I am I'm getting having the
Giants maybe a bigger chance than I should at making
this a real game and then seeing what Jackson Dart
(41:10):
can do. When Daniel Jones took over, you know, not
a few years ago, but half decade ago. His first game,
I think it was against Tampa. He comes in, plays, well,
they steal a win. They're feeling good now. That team
didn't end up being very good, but like in that moment,
because I do think they were out on Russ. I
(41:32):
I am not as big on the Jackson dart aura
as other people are, but people seem to really like him.
I guess we'll, you know, we'll see. Guy strikes me
is a little bit of like a frat bro. But
whatever with the I am open. I liked him evidently
that that chain isn't a chain, it's his sister's necklace
(41:56):
that he yeah, yeah, so like he borrowed it from her,
wore it now he wears it for good luck. I
don't have that full story. I think it's been reported
out elsewhere, but they seem very excited about him. To me,
the bigger story is about Russ. Is his career over?
(42:19):
And is he a Hall of Famer? And my answer
to those questions are yes, his career is over, and no,
he's not a Hall of Famer. And it is stunning
how quickly this ended for him. It doesn't feel stunning
(42:41):
because it feels like he's been bad for years now,
which he has been, but Russell Wilson forced his way
out of Seattle. The Broncos gave up a king's ransom
for him and then paid him early a huge deal,
and he immediately was terrible. And it was it was
(43:08):
not that long ago that people thought the Broncos were
going to be a real threat because they got Russell Wilson.
It was September of twenty twenty two that they gave
up multiple first round picks, gave him a huge deal,
(43:33):
and then he and Nat Hackett lost that opening game
to Geno and the Seahawks, and it's just been a
disaster for him ever since. And I understand he has
a good career winning percentage, and I understand that he
has you know, nine Pro Bowls ten no, ten Pro
(43:56):
Bowls because he oddly made the Pro Bowl last year.
And listen, he was a really really good player in Seattle.
But in during his career, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers,
Drew Brees, Big Ben Patrick, Josh Lamar, we're all Hall
(44:24):
of Fame quarterbacks. During his career, Philip Rivers was in
my opinion, better than Russ. I don't know that Rivers
is getting in Eli. I don't know that. I think
Eli was better than Russ, but Eli has the two
Super Bowls versus one, and Eli I don't think is
(44:46):
getting in, at least not anytime soon. He didn't have
as high of a peak as Cam Newton or Matt Ryan,
who are not getting in. And the longevity part is
not there for him. He had nine good to excellent
(45:09):
years and that's it. And for a quarterback you need more.
There was. It's hard to find more than one year
where he was a consensus top five quarterback. It's impossible
to find one year where he was a consensus top
(45:32):
three quarterback. And so I just don't think he's a
Hall of Famer. He was on a Hall of Fame trajectory.
And if Malcolm Butler doesn't pick that ball off, and
he has the greatest start to a career in the
history of the league. A Year one takes team to
Divisional round of the playoffs. Year two wins the Super
(45:53):
Bowl over Peyton Manning. Year three wins the Super Bowl
over Tom Brady. But Malcolm Butler did pick that ball off.
And the fact of the matter is the best teams
he was on good teams that he was the centerpiece of.
He was on great teams that he was the caretaker of.
(46:17):
And I just don't think he's a Hall of famer.
And I don't know at this point, Demons, I don't know, Like,
are the Bengals gonna call and try to get him?
I don't think so, Like, I don't know where he goes, and.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
As a starter is just a backup right we're talking back.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
No, I'm talking about the Bengals as a starter right now, Okay,
like with Burrow out like, but the Broncos traded for him,
they were done with him after a year and a half.
The Steelers signed him, they were done with him after
a half year starting. The Giants signed him, they were
(46:57):
done with him after three games starting. I just think
it's over and it's a pretty crummy ending. And so
I don't but like, to me, he's not a Hall
of Fame player. He's a really good player with a
really good career, but not a Hall of Fame player.
(47:20):
And it sure seemed like the Giants could not wait
to move on from him as far as the Giants'
thought process here, I Danny's been making this point, and
I think he's right. If Jackson Dart's ready now. He
was probably ready in week one, and if he wasn't
ready in week one, he's probably not ready now. But
(47:43):
I think that Brian Dable doesn't want to be deal
with empty met life seats and booze if he wants
to have a chance of keeping that job, and so
putting Dart out there is getting at least the New
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let's go to Colts Texans quickly, and also if there
are some questions in the chat, we can do those
as well. Here in a minute, my.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Guy Daniel Jones and the Colts are going to face
off the Rams. They are three and ohero but people
will probably call this the real first test for them,
and the Rams are coming off the double block field goals.
How will we be talking how will we be talking
about these teams differently come Monday?
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Oh listen, I think the Rams will be three and
one and the Colts will be three and one. I listen,
I've got to give Remember how during our preseason gambling show,
I U I said that every year there's been a
team that I tie in a bunch of stuff and
it ruins my profitability. That two years ago it was Jacksonville.
(51:17):
I believed in them when they ruined me. Last year
it was Pittsburgh. I didn't believe in them, and it
ruined me. I am staring down the barrel of needing
to like sweep the board in everything non cult related
because I made a bunch of bets that they were
(51:42):
going I didn't remember you were going to be I
thought they I said they had a chance to be
the worst team in the league. They're three and up.
This is my biggest up to this point, this is
my biggest width of the of the preseason. There's still
time and to your point, they have beaten two of
(52:04):
the worst teams in football and a last second field
goal to beat the Broncos. But still they've now got
a bit of a cushion. And the rest of the
AFC South, with the Texans being a mess, the Jags
being not as good as their two and one record is,
and the Titans having one of the worst coaches I've
seen in recent memory. I'm officially nervous before we get
(52:27):
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(54:01):
pm kickoff last week and now they're playing East Coast time,
and now they're playing a noon kickoff East Coast time.
This week. But I like USC. I don't mind laying
the points there LSU plus one and a half at
Ole Miss. I don't have a feeling on I love
Oregon getting three and a half at Penn State. I
(54:24):
love it. I love it so much. Penn State does
not beat top ten teams. Talk with Joel clad about
it yesterday. And I also like Georgia laying two and
a half at home against Alabama. I talked with Joel
Clatt about a little Oregon Georgia Chiefs three way money
line parlay. Maybe. So there's my college. It's huge college
(54:49):
football weekend. I'll be sweating those bets from the Ryder Cup. Also,
if you're wondering, hey, when's the gambling show? Uh don't
that is coming out Friday morning with our five picks.
All right, the demonse, let's ask some of these listener questions.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Uh, platonic zombie, ask, if Dallas wins, will we be
having a real discussion about how bad Love actually is?
Speaker 1 (55:15):
Dallas, No, listen, I don't think Jordan Love's bad. And
if Dallas wins, the discussion the only way for Dallas.
I mean, I guess if Jordan Love can't move the ball,
against the Cowboys defense. Then there are some real concerns.
But I don't think he's bad. All right. Let's in fact,
(55:35):
I know he's not bad. The question is can he
be great? And does he think he has to be great.
I don't think he has to be great. I think
he has to be solid. All right, Let's go to Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Mitchell says, hey, Nick, Seattle fan here, you think cal
will win the MVP for the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Can you guys throw in the al MVP odds into
the doc. I've said that. I think, even though Judge
had been a huge favorite that I thought if the
Mariners made the playoffs, cal Raley with his sixty home runs,
was gonna get it. I think he's gonna get it,
(56:13):
and he has a chance of beating Aaron Judge's AL
home run record. The Mariners are going to make the playoffs, well,
not going to make the playoffs. They have made the
playoffs already. Pardon me, they clinched. I think cal Raley
can win it. I know Judge has been unbelievable and
was a huge favorite as of a few weeks ago.
(56:35):
I right now with our friends at hard Rock, Oh
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He loved cal Raley's chances when he was plus three
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(56:59):
is asks if I have any bets on the Ryder
Cup if people miss the top of the show, because
it does start tomorrow. I'm going Saturday, and I bet
on Europe. So let me be in America, the very
pro America crowd, and I'm as pro America as the
next guy, maybe not as maybe not as much as
(57:21):
quite as some of these long Island golf ins are
gonna be. But in general I root for America and
things in international competitions. But you know who's American me,
and you know who's got money on Europe me, So
I'm kind of rooting for America by rooting for myself.
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Welcome in What Driving the Great Episode three seventy. This episode,
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Show comes out Friday morning with our five picks that could.
We almost had. I text Demanse midway through Sunday football
(00:24):
and I was like, I'm staring oho and five in
the face and oh and five is tough to recover from. Luckily,
the Chargers rallied and then the Lions were never a
doubter or getting four and a half, and so two
and three we can deal with. So you know what
I mean, the you treading water in that regard. So
(00:45):
that the gambling and Pick show comes out tomorrow. Also
a little note that is relevant probably more to the
Blue Duck and Volume crew than it is. And I'm
trying to hold back a sneeze than it is to Demanse,
but to not tomorrow Friday bucket list might be strong
(01:05):
but close to bucket list event for me as and
maybe I said this on Tuesday, and I'll remember going
to the Writer Cup, the Rider Cup held every two years,
every only every four years? Is it in the US.
It's the US against great Britain or the US against Europe.
(01:25):
Pardon me, it's either in Great Britain or the US
Golf tournament being held at Bethpage Black and Me, Danny
and Hubbs whole. First things, First, crew going out there,
so I can't that'll be that'll be all time see
Rory se Scheffler and in what will be a really
(01:46):
raucous crowd. Now here's a thing before we get to
the show, which is a little tricky, okay, Tomansey. So
first of all, it's on Long Island. The Ryder Cup
is very patriotic typically you know when it's in it
(02:07):
When it's in Europe, the crowd is rooting for the
Europeans when it's here, like people are wearing flags and stuff.
That the Long Island golf patriotic crowd is not the
patriotic part about it, But the Long Island golf crowd,
it's not really my crowd to begin with. You then
(02:28):
add to it, I might have with our friends at
hard Rock Bet made a few wagers on Europe and
so so so I might I might be out there.
I think I'm gonna have to at least be appearing
to root for the home side. But I'm gonna have
(02:49):
a financial interest in Europe potentially winning. It could create
some awkward spots for me out there, but I'm very
very excited to go. So I'm doing that. And the
other thing. Saturday. Saturday one of the best college football
slates in years, and so we'll touch on that at
some point a bit today. But you have obviously Georgia Bama,
(03:11):
you have Penn State, Oregon. You have just great games
all over the place. Let's get, however, to straight the
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Zion looking great, saying he hasn't felt this great since college.
He looked awesome. Man. I hope he can stay healthy.
I still I have not sold all my Zion stock.
(03:32):
I like when he came into the league, I said
he had MVP potential, and to me, he kind of
immediately showed it those first couple of years when he played.
He just obviously couldn't stay healthy. As when he'll stay
in shape. Jason Tatum, he hasn't ruled out playing this season.
I will be rooting for him to do it. I
think that would be a very tough putt, but I
(03:55):
thought he did a really good job talking about yesterday
about how vulnerable he felt, how sad he was, and
you know, being open about that. So I was happy
he'd be ready for that, right, I don't know. I mean,
he the Achilles is typically not a nine month injury.
(04:18):
It's a true twelve month injury. And twelve months obviously
would be like round two of the playoffs. And would
you want his first action to be in the playoff cauldron?
I don't know. Listen, I am. I'm rooting for all
these guys to get back early, but I so I'm
(04:39):
not going to put a ceiling on what he can do.
And I know that he has been rehabbing his ass off.
It seems it seems ambitious. But yeah, but listen, I'll
root for him. And then tonight Arizona Seattle in a
Thursday night game that I listen. I know both these
teams have good records, both these teams are two and one.
(05:02):
I'm excited to actually have this be the only game
on because it will give me an opportunity to probably
watch these teams closer than I've watched them up to
this point. I know that I said a few weeks
ago that that Thursday night game could be you know,
a date night Thursday night. I've decided I'm gonna because
(05:23):
they're both at this point, relevant teams get an opportunity
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And now we get to the early season game of
the year this Baltimore has been involved. There have been
three games of the year so far, Bill's Ravens to
(05:45):
open the season, Chiefs Eagles in week two, and now
Bill's Ravens week four. I'm sorry, Chiefs Ravens week four.
So the Chiefs or the Ravens have been involved in
all three of the biggest games of the year. Let's
get right to it.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, so your Chiefs of my Ravens face off this weekend. Yeah,
they're both looking at one and three starts between the two.
Who do you think has more on the line?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I listen, I saw Orlovsky this morning, say it's clearly
the Chiefs. I know that the Chiefs are the team
that people have been far more panicked about than Baltimore.
I think people have this flatly wrong. It is to me,
(06:34):
unquestionably Baltimore that has more on the line, and it
is for two very distinct reasons that apply to Baltimore
in a way they don't apply to Kansas City. The
first one is this, if we believe these even though
(06:54):
one of these teams is going to be one in three,
that both of these teams still bill have Super Bowl aspirations,
and that Baltimore certainly still has Super Bowl aspirations, they
have to win this game for two reasons that are
(07:18):
related to each other. One is, maybe by winning this game,
you won't have to go through Kansas City in the playoffs.
And by winning this game, if you do have to
play Kansas City in the playoffs, you have some reason
to believe you can beat them. Lamar and the Ravens
(07:43):
have lost five of the six games they've played against
Patrick and the Chiefs. They have lost four in a row.
They have lost in Baltimore, they have lost in Kansas City. Lamar,
who has the highest passer rating in the history of
the NFL, has an eighty passer rating against the Chiefs.
Lamar has not played a singularly great game against Kansas
(08:05):
City except for one time. The one time they won,
and I think that was thirty six thirty five after
Clyde Edwards Hilaire fumble and then Baltimore went for a
fourth down smartly late nice the game. There is a
massive psychological edge the Chiefs have over the Ravens, and
even if the Ravens win this game, they are not
(08:28):
going to have a psychological edge on Kansas City. And
so like if the Ravens win, the Chiefs are not
going to if they were to play in the playoffs,
go into that game thinking we can't beat this team.
But if the Chiefs win, how can Baltimore credibly think
(08:49):
that the Chiefs don't simply have their number? And so
I also think that the Ravens upcoming if they fall
to one in three, a team that oddly to me,
and we talked about it a lot Tuesday, felt tight
and anxious in their game against Detroit. Their next two
(09:15):
games home for the Texans with a great defense but
a terrible offense, and then home for the Rams. That's
concerning the Chiefs. Meanwhile, the game after this is Jacksonville.
Now you can say Jacksonville is better than Houston, and
I know they're two and one, Houston's zero and three,
and Jacksonville just beat Houston. It still feels to me
(09:36):
like Houston has a higher upside potentially than Jacksonville. So I, yeah,
that's what I was about to saying, right, correct, Then no,
then they have the Lions. But I also think because
after the Lions, the Chiefs get Rashi Rice back, that
(09:57):
there is a level of okay, Like let's say they
lose to Baltimore and lose the Alliance and they're and
they beat Jacksonville and they're two and four. Getting Rashi
Rice back, I still feel like the team psychologically will
feel like, all right, yeah, now we're finally whole. Yeah,
(10:18):
let's just we're not gonna have home field, We're probably
not gonna win the division. Let's just see if we
can get in and be scary. I and that is
that's one of the reasons that I just listen, I'm
not gonna panic about either of it for a few weeks. Yeah, well, correct,
Like I just unless you are going to go as
(10:42):
far as to say Kansas City, I fear is going
to miss the postseason. I don't think anybody actually believes
they're not a terrifying team once the postseason begins. Even
if they get there by going ten and seven, they
got there by going eleven and six two years ago
(11:05):
and won the Super Bowl, going to Buffalo, going to Baltimore,
And so I just I also think there is a
level of in the commentariat offensive bias that is showing
up in the way we talk about Buffalo. I'm sorry Baltimore.
(11:28):
In Kansas City, Kansas City's offense has been its biggest concern.
Kansas City's offense kind of across the board is mid
their average, they're thirteenth in this seventeenth and that fourteenth
and this fifteenth and that they're just average, and that
has caused massive concern. Baltimore's defense has been its problem,
(11:55):
and they're awful in everything and that so the side
of the ball Kansas City is struggling on. They're struggling
to the tune of being average. The side of the
ball Baltimore is struggling on. They're struggling to the tune
of being horrible. And there is go ahead.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
With that said about Baltimore's defense, If Kansas City still
if the offense still struggles.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Then what Yeah, that even with well Worthy's coming back too,
so the so that's a good question. If they win
a low scoring game, I do, then that is great.
You know what, I like if they win, if they
win the score the way they beat Baltimore in the
AFC Title Game seventeen to ten, then I and the
(12:43):
offense doesn't cook, but they win, I don't care. I
do not care if they don't, you know so, because
I also but now if they let me eat, I'm
gonna say a bunch here if they lose. If Baltimore
scores a ton and the Chiefs just can't keep up
(13:04):
and they lose twenty eight thirteen something like that, that'll
be concerning about what the Chiefs offense actually is and
how much just getting Rashi Rice back will fix it.
I also have and I don't know if statistically this
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has been proven or even it can be backed up
or anything, but it feels to me like very often
games take on a personality, and like one of the
reasons Cowboys Giants was high flying the way it was
(13:50):
was the off one team's offense, but get another team's offense.
Does that make sense? Like it was that that game
led to the personality. Almost of that game was quick drives,
deep bombs, You score, I score, you score, I score.
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The very next week, that same Giants offense played a
Chiefs team that was stuck in the mud, long drives,
no explosives, and they didn't have any. So I so
that's the same Giants offense right now. The Chiefs defense
is obviously better than the Cowboys defense, but not thirty
(14:32):
five points better, you wouldn't think. And yet that's you know,
that's what we got in that game. And so my
point is this, I think the Ravens offense, I don't
think this is going to be a thirty one to
twenty eight game. I think this is far more likely
(14:54):
to be a because we the Eagles can be high
flying and high scoring, the Chargers can be high scoring.
Both teams have played the Chiefs and the game has
kind of taken on the personality of the current Chiefs,
which is these long drives, fight for yards. And I
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don't think that's just because of the Chiefs defense. I
think that. Again, I can't prove it, and maybe what
I'm saying right now sounds weird, but I just think
sometimes games take on, like I said, a personality almost
and there is somehow a butterfly effect of one team's
(15:38):
offense hitting deep shots leading to another team's offense hitting
deep shots. It's just from my exp because here's the
other thing that's really weird about kind of consuming football
and how we feel watching it. So you would agree
Tomanse that that Chiefs Giants game, the Chiefs offense looked
(16:05):
hard to watch and stagnant. Yeah, right, that it was
a bad offensive game and they finished with twenty It
would have been twenty three, but twenty two points because
they missed the extra point. You would agree, So the
Chiefs in that game scored twenty two. You would agree
that Ravens Lions. The Ravens offense was moving the ball
(16:29):
seemingly at will, and the problem in that game wasn't
the offense. Yeah, And you would have felt that way
even if they didn't get that garbage time touchdown. You know,
when they were down fourteen. The Ravens going into garbage
time of that game had twenty four points, and it
felt like the offense was doing whatever it wanted. The
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Chiefs fought and clawed an ugly football, scored twenty two points,
and it felt like the offense could do nothing. So again,
I'm not what I'm kind of almost talking about like
ideas here Giants. No, I agree, but the Giants defense
(17:12):
is supposed to be decent and the and we don't
look at the Lions as a great defense. And so
the point I'm making is sometimes you can score twenty
four points and it can look it can feel like
your offense was humming, and you can score twenty three
points and it can feel like your offense couldn't do anything.
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And so I just feel like we are going to
get a slugfest in Kansas City where every yard is
going to be, you know, hard to get. Because and
here's the other reason. I don't think Baltimore's past defense
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is as bad as the numbers suggest. I think their
run defense is horrible, truly horrible. And I just don't
know if the Chiefs have the personnel to take full
advantage of a horrible run defense like that. That was
(18:20):
the story of Ravens Lions was the run defense. And
so I if there was ever gonna be a time
for Pacheco to look like Pacheco from a couple of
years ago, this would be this game. I just don't
know if they had it, I don't know, but I.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Would you say, I do go ahead, Who do you
think on your team needs to step up the most
in this game?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I think this is what have I said about Travis.
They's got five or six great games left in it. Yeah,
this would be a good time for one of them. Yeah,
he's he's had a rough start to the season. He
has owned this matchup. Getting Worthy back should open things
(19:12):
up in the middle of the field a little bit more.
And Tae Kwan Thornton all of a sudden you have
to take him seriously, at least as a deep threat.
And so I this would be a nice Travis Kelsey game.
I am I believe. Listen, I think Kansas.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
City is that's a crazy question, but.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Badly. Yes, absolutely, And now listen, I'm gonna be holding
my breath on the Worthy stuff because we're only a
few weeks removed from that shoulder dislocation, and he's gonna
the further down the road we get, the stronger that
shoulder gets. So I don't think Worthy is gonna be
(19:59):
like super featured in the game plan, but I think
just having him out there should help quite a bit.
Uh no surprise here. One of my picks on the
gambling show is gonna be the Chiefs plus the points
because I think they're gonna win. Uh Demons and I
will make We're gonna figure out some type of wager
to make on this game. It won't be financial, but
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tomorrow during the gambling show. I have some ideas. I
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I won't, I I listen, I won't. I won't accept
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I'm not taking money from you. So it's gotta be more.
It's gotta be you are gonna have to do something
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Speaker 2 (23:06):
Parsons is returning to Dallas to face to face Dallas.
I'm sorry. He said it's gonna be very difficult to
sack that Dak Prescott Greenway.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Hold on, He didn't say it was gonna be difficult,
like hard to do people like emotionally difficult. Hard.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Green Bay's offense get it, gets a chance to rebound
on that crummy Dallas defense. Jesus Christ, who has a
bigger statement to make. Jordan Love in the offense or
Micah Parsons in the defense, I would say.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yes, no question about it. I listen, Jordan Love. Brew
picked Jordan Love and he wasn't the only one to
win League MVP this year. I think Jordan Love having
that mindset would be terrible for the Packers. He does
(24:02):
not have to be great, He has to be steady
in a weird way, even though they're incredibly different players
and it's for incredibly different reasons. Jordan Loved to me
is in the same boat as Jared Goff. Now, Golf
(24:25):
is in the boat as far as responsibility to the team,
and the responsibility is make the plays that are there,
don't make big mistakes. And for Golf, they are an
offensive first team and that's his responsibility. But it's because
(24:46):
they have so many dynamic weapons, right, So he just
don't be the reason you lose. Green Bay doesn't have
nearly the weapons Detroit has. What they have though, is
a dominant defense and an opportunistic defense. And what Love
simply can't do is what he did last week that
(25:10):
that interception to the the best offensive play of the
year thus far, was Justin Herbert's touchdown pass last weekend,
shaking off the rusher, stepping up in the pockets, slinging
it almost side armed on a dime. The worst offensive
play of the year this season was Jordan Love's interception
(25:35):
to the Facto. Lose that Browns game, and if the
Packers end up in a shootout, then then we can
take the training wheels off a bit. But they're not
(25:57):
in a They thus far have not been in shootouts. Now.
Our producer Daniel, who is a Packer fan, says two
has had fifty worst plays. I disagree. I'm talking about
the day. It was the only way for Green Bay
to lose that game, So I'm not listen. Cam Ward's
(26:18):
had some brutal plays, obviously, there have been some in
a vacuum plays that looked worse or you know, than
the Jordan Love play. What I'm saying is snatching a
victory out of the jaw, No, snatching a defeat out
of the jaws of victory for a team that had
(26:40):
no business losing that game. That Jordan Love play is
my first draft pick of it, and I think against
the Cowboys defense, you're gonna have plenty of layups that
can be big plays. And I do think Micah is
gonna have his damn hair on fire. And I think
(27:02):
the Cowboys with no CD lamb and I think with
Tyler Booker or their first round pick out, this game
could be ugly. Now, the Cowboys have enough offensive firepower
that I don't think I'm gonna lay the seven points
(27:25):
on the road with Green Bay. But I do think
that it is far more likely the Packers blow out
the Cowboys than it is the Cowboys win again. I
demon's I don't give you teaser coaching, but I'm telling
you right now, if I were doing a teaser this weekend,
(27:49):
teasing green Bay down to a pick them is like
a must have leg. I just think there is what
you have the other way on it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Uh no, no, no, no, I've got something on it.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I didn't think that au.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
But yeah, that's just going against all your rules. It
shocks me.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
But yeah, what's my rules? What do you mean? Zero? Well,
I I also would do you like eight? But you
like eight point teasers. I'm just saying the old traditional
six point teaser the getting Yes, I mean, I don't
the I think of teasers in six point denominations. Uh,
(28:33):
So what if if I were doing a six point
teaser this weekend, having green Bay down to either minus
a half point or minus one would be a must
have because I just do not see a path for
Dallas to win this game. And I think this is
here's my Jerry Jones take. I think the reason Micah
(28:55):
is not getting a tribute video is because Jerry Jones
is embarrassed. And I think Jerry Jerry loves a spectacle.
Jerry loves a show. Jerry loves more, you know, an event,
and I think that under normal circumstances, he would announce
We're gonna do something special for Micah Parsons. I think
(29:19):
Jerry does not want to see the Cowboys fans in
Jerry World stand and applaud Micah Parsons, and that's why
he's not getting it. And so standing ovations. Oh yeah,
absolutely they do. But this is and so listen. I
(29:43):
love the Packers this week, and I think it's a
get right spot and I think they will get right. Uh.
And I think Michael will have a big game. Uh,
the Cowboys might. Now Micah might have a big game
by virtue of creating pressure for other people to clean
up on the sacks or getting double teamed. The Cowboys
(30:05):
might be like, Mike is just not going to be
the one who beats us, So be it buying Micah's
impact will be felt heavily on this game.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Uh.
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Let's get to another huge game this weekend.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, your guy Baker takes on Philly this weekend and
the last couple that well, the Bucks are very banged up.
By the way, the last couple of times they've faced Philly,
they have they've beaten them. And what version of the
Philly offense do you think they we're gonna get well.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
So this is interesting. The Eagles are on this seventeen
game winning streak when Jalen starts and finishes games that
game started. The last time they lost, I should say,
was against Tampa. Tampa did beat them in the playoffs soundly.
I think Jalen's like one in four in his career
against Tampa and an unbelievable record against everybody else. I
(31:45):
am worried about Tampa this weekend because the injuries are crazy,
and it is cluster offensive line injuries, which is the
cluster injuries are one thing. Cluster offensive line injuries are disastrous.
So Tristan Wurf's still you know, they're still trying to
(32:10):
get him back. They've got two other offensive linemen on
the ir so you're potentially down three offensive linemen. Mike
Evans is not going to play. You worry Levonte David.
It popped up on the injury report it and by
the way, Baker was limited in practice this week. Now
(32:32):
the Eagles are dealing with injuries of their own. But
it's not on the offensive line. I know Lane Johnson
suffered the stinger on everyone's favorite play, the Early Bird,
but the Bucks might be too banged up in this spot,
and it is to me a really concerning injury spot
(32:58):
for Tampa. Because of that Demonse, I think that the
Eagles should open it up offensively. I just don't think
now the injuries for Tampa, to be clearer, are Tampa's
offensive side of the ball. It's not that I'm saying
the injuries are going to make the Tampa defense susceptible.
(33:21):
What I'm saying is I think Philly has a bit
of a margin of error here to play with. And
I also think with Saquon not playing great and he
just hasn't yet, maybe he will, but he is a
lot of carries. Last year, with aj Brown clearly wanting
(33:42):
you to open it up, with the game play in
last week being so disastrous that you found yourself in
that massive hole, and with jail and taking care of
the football, there just isn't a big argument in my opinion,
to not have an aggressive downfield passing game plan to
just see how it works, because if they show that
(34:05):
early in games, I believe it will lead to Saquon
popping again. I think right now, teams early in games
are so convinced that Philly is just gonna run, run, run,
(34:28):
that they are able to stack the box against Saquon,
and that's one of the reasons he's not having the
success that he has had previously. And so I think
that there is a real opportunity for Philadelphia here to
(34:48):
put really scary stuff on tape for upcoming opponents of
a pass heavy early game script that could pay real
dividend down the year, down the road, even if they
want to lean more on Saquon, you know, in higher
leverage spots. I understand this is a huge game because
(35:11):
both these teams are undefeated. They're both, in my opinion,
legitimate Super Bowl contenders. But Philly cannot go into this
game with the game plan they had last week. You
just can't. You have not been since Becton's gone, you
haven't been as dominant of a run blocking team. Lane
(35:33):
Johnson's a little banged up, Your receivers are a little frustrated.
Your quarterbacks seemed, you know, frustrated during the game about
the game plan, like open it up. And I don't
think Jalen's going to turn the ball over a bunch. Now.
Maybe listen, maybe it doesn't work and you go back
to you know, you're in a rough spot early in
(35:56):
the game, but you were in a rough spot last
week against a really good RAM team and came all
the way back. Like I just I think Philly has
to lean on jail in a little bit more this
week and see how it plays out, like.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
All the margin for air and stuff. If Baker were
to go out and win the game, would you make
him your MVP favorite?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Listen, I think he's got a legitimate MVP case right now.
The media is focused far more heavily on Herbert and Josh,
and that's fine, but the three last second victories by
Baker have put him in the mix. And if you remember,
(36:42):
you know my prediction that the Bucks get the one seed.
Winning this game would put them in such a great
spot to potentially be the one seed if they can
steal this victory against Philly, because as I said when
I picked them to be the one seed, I just
(37:03):
want to remind everyone this is how Tampa ends the year.
Final What is this? Five games? Cardinals, Saints Falcons? No,
I'm sorry, Final six games Cardinals, Saints, Falcons, Panthers, Dolphins, Panthers.
(37:26):
So if they get to four and oh, right, and
then they can just go four and three in the
tough part of their schedule, which you know starts here.
But I'm saying if they get to it, because they
then at Seahawks home for the Niners, at the Lions,
(37:48):
at the Saints, home for the Patriots, at the Bills,
at the Rams. If they get to four and oh,
they have a very real chance of being eight and three,
or call it even seven and four through those eleven games,
and then you rip off six straight to end the year.
(38:09):
You're a thirteen to fourteen win team. If you win
this game, and you have the tiebreaker with Philly, you
probably don't even need. If you win this game, you
might be able to be the one seed with twelve wins,
because if Philly ends with twelve, you get the one seed.
(38:32):
So this would be an unbelievable stolen win for Tampa
given how injured they are. But I think this is
gonna be. This is a really really rough spot for them,
and I think Philly is the right side in this game.
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Speaker 2 (40:36):
So they are not letting russcook anymore. In New York,
it's Jackson Dart time. They put him in a kind
of a weird time. This could be a blessing or
a curse. They are playing the Chargers and they have
a top ranked defense. How do you see things going
for Jackson Dart in the Chiants.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I think they might get a temporary shot in the arm.
I'm not right. Listen, They're in New York. I think
that defense is good. I am I'm getting having the
Giants maybe a bigger chance than I should at making
this a real game and then seeing what Jackson Dart
(41:10):
can do. When Daniel Jones took over, you know, not
a few years ago, but half decade ago. His first game,
I think it was against Tampa. He comes in, plays, well,
they steal a win. They're feeling good now. That team
didn't end up being very good, but like in that moment,
because I do think they were out on Russ. I
(41:32):
I am not as big on the Jackson dart aura
as other people are, but people seem to really like him.
I guess we'll, you know, we'll see. Guy strikes me
is a little bit of like a frat bro. But
whatever with the I am open. I liked him evidently
that that chain isn't a chain, it's his sister's necklace
(41:56):
that he yeah, yeah, so like he borrowed it from her,
wore it now he wears it for good luck. I
don't have that full story. I think it's been reported
out elsewhere, but they seem very excited about him. To me,
the bigger story is about Russ. Is his career over?
(42:19):
And is he a Hall of Famer? And my answer
to those questions are yes, his career is over, and no,
he's not a Hall of Famer. And it is stunning
how quickly this ended for him. It doesn't feel stunning
(42:41):
because it feels like he's been bad for years now,
which he has been, but Russell Wilson forced his way
out of Seattle. The Broncos gave up a king's ransom
for him and then paid him early a huge deal,
and he immediately was terrible. And it was it was
(43:08):
not that long ago that people thought the Broncos were
going to be a real threat because they got Russell Wilson.
It was September of twenty twenty two that they gave
up multiple first round picks, gave him a huge deal,
(43:33):
and then he and Nat Hackett lost that opening game
to Geno and the Seahawks, and it's just been a
disaster for him ever since. And I understand he has
a good career winning percentage, and I understand that he
has you know, nine Pro Bowls ten no, ten Pro
(43:56):
Bowls because he oddly made the Pro Bowl last year.
And listen, he was a really really good player in Seattle.
But in during his career, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers,
Drew Brees, Big Ben Patrick, Josh Lamar, we're all Hall
(44:24):
of Fame quarterbacks. During his career, Philip Rivers was in
my opinion, better than Russ. I don't know that Rivers
is getting in Eli. I don't know that. I think
Eli was better than Russ, but Eli has the two
Super Bowls versus one, and Eli I don't think is
(44:46):
getting in, at least not anytime soon. He didn't have
as high of a peak as Cam Newton or Matt Ryan,
who are not getting in. And the longevity part is
not there for him. He had nine good to excellent
(45:09):
years and that's it. And for a quarterback you need more.
There was. It's hard to find more than one year
where he was a consensus top five quarterback. It's impossible
to find one year where he was a consensus top
(45:32):
three quarterback. And so I just don't think he's a
Hall of Famer. He was on a Hall of Fame trajectory.
And if Malcolm Butler doesn't pick that ball off, and
he has the greatest start to a career in the
history of the league. A Year one takes team to
Divisional round of the playoffs. Year two wins the Super
(45:53):
Bowl over Peyton Manning. Year three wins the Super Bowl
over Tom Brady. But Malcolm Butler did pick that ball off.
And the fact of the matter is the best teams
he was on good teams that he was the centerpiece of.
He was on great teams that he was the caretaker of.
(46:17):
And I just don't think he's a Hall of famer.
And I don't know at this point, Demons, I don't know, Like,
are the Bengals gonna call and try to get him?
I don't think so, Like, I don't know where he goes, and.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
As a starter is just a backup right we're talking back.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
No, I'm talking about the Bengals as a starter right now, Okay,
like with Burrow out like, but the Broncos traded for him,
they were done with him after a year and a half.
The Steelers signed him, they were done with him after
a half year starting. The Giants signed him, they were
(46:57):
done with him after three games starting. I just think
it's over and it's a pretty crummy ending. And so
I don't but like, to me, he's not a Hall
of Fame player. He's a really good player with a
really good career, but not a Hall of Fame player.
(47:20):
And it sure seemed like the Giants could not wait
to move on from him as far as the Giants'
thought process here, I Danny's been making this point, and
I think he's right. If Jackson Dart's ready now. He
was probably ready in week one, and if he wasn't
ready in week one, he's probably not ready now. But
(47:43):
I think that Brian Dable doesn't want to be deal
with empty met life seats and booze if he wants
to have a chance of keeping that job, and so
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Slash Legal Slash podcast for full disclosures. All right, demons,
let's go to Colts Texans quickly, and also if there
are some questions in the chat, we can do those
as well. Here in a minute, my.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Guy Daniel Jones and the Colts are going to face
off the Rams. They are three and ohero but people
will probably call this the real first test for them,
and the Rams are coming off the double block field goals.
How will we be talking how will we be talking
about these teams differently come Monday?
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Oh listen, I think the Rams will be three and
one and the Colts will be three and one. I listen,
I've got to give Remember how during our preseason gambling show,
I U I said that every year there's been a
team that I tie in a bunch of stuff and
it ruins my profitability. That two years ago it was Jacksonville.
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I believed in them when they ruined me. Last year
it was Pittsburgh. I didn't believe in them, and it
ruined me. I am staring down the barrel of needing
to like sweep the board in everything non cult related
because I made a bunch of bets that they were
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going I didn't remember you were going to be I
thought they I said they had a chance to be
the worst team in the league. They're three and up.
This is my biggest up to this point, this is
my biggest width of the of the preseason. There's still
time and to your point, they have beaten two of
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the worst teams in football and a last second field
goal to beat the Broncos. But still they've now got
a bit of a cushion. And the rest of the
AFC South, with the Texans being a mess, the Jags
being not as good as their two and one record is,
and the Titans having one of the worst coaches I've
seen in recent memory. I'm officially nervous before we get
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to college football, before we get to some of the
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on here? All right? College football this week in Demon's
for just massive games US see Illinois Big Noon on
Fox USC in a weird spot. They play and eleven
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pm kickoff last week and now they're playing East Coast time,
and now they're playing a noon kickoff East Coast time.
This week. But I like USC. I don't mind laying
the points there LSU plus one and a half at
Ole Miss. I don't have a feeling on I love
Oregon getting three and a half at Penn State. I
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love it. I love it so much. Penn State does
not beat top ten teams. Talk with Joel clad about
it yesterday. And I also like Georgia laying two and
a half at home against Alabama. I talked with Joel
Clatt about a little Oregon Georgia Chiefs three way money
line parlay. Maybe. So there's my college. It's huge college
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football weekend. I'll be sweating those bets from the Ryder Cup. Also,
if you're wondering, hey, when's the gambling show? Uh don't
that is coming out Friday morning with our five picks.
All right, the demonse, let's ask some of these listener questions.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Uh, platonic zombie, ask, if Dallas wins, will we be
having a real discussion about how bad Love actually is?
Speaker 1 (55:15):
Dallas, No, listen, I don't think Jordan Love's bad. And
if Dallas wins, the discussion the only way for Dallas.
I mean, I guess if Jordan Love can't move the ball,
against the Cowboys defense. Then there are some real concerns.
But I don't think he's bad. All right. Let's in fact,
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I know he's not bad. The question is can he
be great? And does he think he has to be great.
I don't think he has to be great. I think
he has to be solid. All right, Let's go to Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
Mitchell says, hey, Nick, Seattle fan here, you think cal
will win the MVP for the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Can you guys throw in the al MVP odds into
the doc. I've said that. I think, even though Judge
had been a huge favorite that I thought if the
Mariners made the playoffs, cal Raley with his sixty home runs,
was gonna get it. I think he's gonna get it,
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and he has a chance of beating Aaron Judge's AL
home run record. The Mariners are going to make the playoffs, well,
not going to make the playoffs. They have made the
playoffs already. Pardon me, they clinched. I think cal Raley
can win it. I know Judge has been unbelievable and
was a huge favorite as of a few weeks ago.
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I right now with our friends at hard Rock, Oh
Cow's the favorite now minus two hundred. Shout out brew
who saw this train? Bruce should gamble, He doesn't bet.
He loved cal Raley's chances when he was plus three
point fifty. He's now minus two hundred. Pretty good. Mark
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is asks if I have any bets on the Ryder
Cup if people miss the top of the show, because
it does start tomorrow. I'm going Saturday, and I bet
on Europe. So let me be in America, the very
pro America crowd, and I'm as pro America as the
next guy, maybe not as maybe not as much as
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quite as some of these long Island golf ins are
gonna be. But in general I root for America and
things in international competitions. But you know who's American me,
and you know who's got money on Europe me, So
I'm kind of rooting for America by rooting for myself.
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