September 30, 2025 • 41 mins
Colin Cowherd breaks down how head coach Sean Payton is transforming the Denver Broncos and accelerating the development of quarterback Bo Nix
He gives his thoughts on the Jets-Dolphins game and he points out Miami should have traded Tyreek Hill when they had the chance
Colin defends Jerry Jones trading Micah Parsons to the Packers
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
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Nick Wright stops by Jama. You know, I love Bonnix
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and Sean Payton. I picked them to win their division.
But Sean Payton's history is he's thirty and thirty in September.
He loads up the offense. He loaded it up with
Drew Brees, who struggled early. With Sean Payton, he loads
it up with bow Nicks. There's a lot of mistakes
until last night.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Beeing Jing Browning. Yes, here we get excited.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So turning a football team around is hard, but it's
not that hard. There's a reason Parcells did it over
and over and over there's a reason Hardbod does it
over and over and over. Some people are smarter, some
people have a better eye for talent. It's not that hard.
Sean Payton took over Denver. They were in cap hell.
Russell Wilson is still their number one cap hit today.
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They were five and twelve. We're scoring offense in the league.
Lowsey offensive line, very little skill today. Start of year three,
great o' line, two capable running backs, dudes everywhere in
the perimeter. How many guys do they have? They can
run and catch a lot. They'll also lead the NFL
in sacks for the second straight year. I love bo Nicks,
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but he got lucky getting Sean Payton from play calling
to play design. He's one of the few coaches in
the NFL that is very good with personnel. He and
Harbaugh no personnel. A lot of good coaches. Kyle Shanahan,
Andy Reid, I don't think you're great with it or
don't care about it. Peyton's great at it. So nine
different guys caught a ball. Everybody's almost got the same
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body type, lean long, with good hands, They run good routes.
It is a Super Bowl roster. I mean you watch
the Jets with their new coach. What do they do well?
What are they do? They do anything well? Broncos do
a lot well. If you lead the NFL in sacks,
you have perhaps the great play caller and designer next
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to Andy Reid, and you've got all sorts of wide
receiver talent on the outside. Now, I love bo Nicks.
Watch how hard he throws the ball, his velocity, Unlike
a lot of these young quarterbacks. He throws the ball
down the field. And because of that, Sean Payton puts
a ton on his plate. He throws it down the field.
A lot of these young quarterbacks ink dunk, dik dunk. No.
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Look at how often when he throws it out into
the flat, a running back or a receiver, a tight
end doesn't have to wait for it. And again he
makes hard throws. He'll throw him into congested areas. He'll
go right after people. He's intense. He kind of reminds
me of the opposite of Drew Locke. It is all
business all the time, hard throws, not messing around. He'll
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bark at Sean Payton, and Sean Payton will bark back.
And Sean is a great coach. But He's not easy
to play for as a quarterback. Go back to Drew Brees.
Drew Brees second year in the turnaround in New Orleans
second year had his worst passer rating of his career.
That's why Shawn's record in September is just okay, thirty
to thirty because he puts so much on the plate
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of his quarterbacks, so it is hard to turn around.
Denver people do not understand Russell Wilson is still their
number one cap hit. It was a mess. They gave
up draft capital, they gave up all those picks. That
a terrible offensive line they had like Courtland Sutton and
a lot of nonsense. You look at them now. It
is velocity on both sides. That's what Harbaugh did thirty
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second defense to number one, same guys a year later.
So coaching works at mile high and the sea level.
It's about the process, it's about intensity. Coaches do it differently.
But the Broncos, my AFC West champion pick back to form,
cut down on the mistakes and bury the hapless Bengals
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team here Sean.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Obviously early in the season, all thirty one other teams
are really working to figure out who they are we're
no different, but it certainly was a step in the
right direction. There were a lot of things that we
were able to do tonight that hopefully can carry over.
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Now we change quickly to a team that just finished
when in the Super Bowl. So we'll enjoy this one
and then get back to work tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I mean, just remember how bad this thing was. He
had Nathaniel Hackett. The offensive line was atrocious, clock management
was embarrassing. The ownership group was looking to sell the GM.
I liked he's still around, but there wasn't. They didn't
do much well, and I mean literally, Sean Payton rebuilt
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the offensive line before he coached the game. He rebuilt
it in the first offseason. He got. Some of these
teams in the NFL, they're like on year five of
rebuilding the offensive line. Sean McVay, Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton,
Andy Reid over and over and over rebuilt o lines overnight.
So I just think Denver is one of those five
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or six rosters in the NFL that looked different, just
more speed, more skill. Broncos Coast all right, the game
that started before that game Jets and Dolphins. So these
are two bad organizations for, in my opinion, two very
different reasons. The Jets are bad because they make really
poor choices. There's too many voices upstairs. They make poor choices.
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I mean they fired Robert Slim, the best coach on
their staff. They fired him as he was preparing his
team to play a game against Buffalo that had he
want he would have been in first place. You kept
him for three and a half years. That's when you're
going to fire him. They just make poor choices head coaches,
GMS quarterbacks. They have patience, but they can't get out
of their own way. They have urgency. They just make
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bad choices. The Dolphins are different. The Dolphins are rarely awful.
Sixty percent of the time in the last fifteen years
they win seven, eight or nine games. They're not awful.
The Dolphins are just too loyal to average people. Their
standards aren't very high. I mean, Tyreek Hill has been
banging on his coach and his quarterback for two years publicly.
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I said it last year. Move him, didn't Now he's
hurt Tua. In the AFC, the best teams play in cold,
windy weather in December and January. The Baltimore's, the Kansas
City's the Cincinnatis two doesn't work. Move off him. No,
they gave me a huge extension. How about Chris Greer,
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the GM been a GM for a decade. I think
he's the longest tenured GM in the AFC. It's got
no playoff wins. Move on, Tyreek Tua, Chris Greer, too
much patience. Go look at the Miami Heat excellence top
to bottom. They move people don't want to play here.
Lebron By the Jets. The Jets want to win, but
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they make terrible choices and do nothing well. The Dolphins
actually do offense pretty well. They're never really terrible. They
make some good hires, some good acquisitions, They have some
good players. But I mean, why is Miami settling? The
Jets aren't satisfied being lousy. They're just incapable of fixing it.
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The Dolphins are really okay winning eight to nine games.
They're just okay being okay. And that's what I see.
I mean, I think those are two struggling franchises, and
I think in Miami they they've still convinced themselves. You know,
Mike McDaniel's smart. Well to him made the Pro Bowl.
He hasn't been hurt lately. Well, Chris Greer, he's part
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of the family. Okay, in a conference with Buffalo and
Mahomes and Andy Reid and now Denver and now Herbert
and hardball, that's not good enough. The Jets, they don't
do anything well. I mean justin fields. You got to
watch the game. Doesn't throw the ball down the field.
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You know, a great athlete, great kid, that's not a
franchise quarterback. They're all in four and here's here's Aaron Glenn,
who promised what he took over discipline, effectiveness, no more
sloppy play.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I'm very disappointed. And there's no way way you can
win any game with thirteen penalties and three turnoo was.
It just can't happen. But what we have to do
is go back to work. We have to go That's
the only way that we can fix them.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, it's I mean, when Aaron Glenn got the job,
the whole takeaway was, Hey, we're not gonna be like
those guys. We're gonna get disciplined. It's not that they're losing.
Remember when Dan Campbell with Jared Goff, excellent quarterback, took
over Detroit. Go look at the first ten fifteen games awful,
that's not it. But remember what that Detroit team was like.
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Do you remember when he first took over. I can
remember going on the air in the first year and
a half, and they weren't good, saying, man, I don't
think I've ever seen a team play this hard. They're
not very good. The defense is atrocious, but man, they
play hard. I can't even say that about the Jets.
They're just you gotta do something right after four or
five games. Even when Peyton took over Denver in the
first year with Russell Wilson, he made Russell Wilson the
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best Russell Wilson could be. He fixed Russell Wilson to
the level you could fix Russell Wilson four or five games.
I gotta see stuff. I can't see a lot of penalties.
I can't see a lot of nonsense. I can't see
a lot of turnovers. I got to be able to
point to something and to go, oh, that defensive coach
has a great defense. Now the defense is worse, So
j Mac. You know, Mets fans tend to be Jets
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fans in New York. So it has been a bad
forty eight hours in New York. For Mets and Jet.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Guy very tough. The over did hit last night, so
we were happy about that. But Colin, I honestly think
the Jets probably pick up the phone today and call
like the Rams, Hey, you know, are you guys interested
in Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I start moving off defensive players. I know it's early.
People don't.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Oh he loves Sauce Gardner. You're not going anywhere. Go
ahead and start accumulating draft picks. I like the offensive pieces, right,
you like your Wilson Bryce Hall offensive line.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I like Alan, the other running back from Wisconsin. Yeah.
I think they have peace. I think they I'm not
worried about talent. I just you have to show me
something through four or five games. You got to be
good something. When Lincoln Riley took over USC, the offense
was good immediately. You gotta be good at something. If
you're a defensive coach, your defense can't look like that.
That can't be what it looks like.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Jets are gonna battle the Saints and Titans for the
number one pick. And I think you said yesterday you
liked Dante Moore above Simpson from Alabama. Because the Jets
are gonna start looking at quarterback like the Evaluating Starts.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
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Speaker 1 (12:07):
So I was a little perplexed at the overreaction to
Jerry Jones trading MICHAEH. Parsons. And I've been as critical
of the Cowboys as I think almost any national broadcaster.
I talked about the Cowboys. I followed this less last
year than any year, but I thought the Michael Parsons
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move made a lot of sense. And let me explain this.
There's three things you need to be a great team,
a great head coach, a great quarterback into me a
great left tackle. The Rams had to rebuild with Anne
Drew Whitworth retired. They were fine without Von Miller. They
even made it fine without Aaron Donald, although he's great.
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I would have moved Michael Parsons too. Edge rushers do
not equal super bowls. Let me list the highest paid
edge rushers in the NFL current Micah TJ Watt, Miles, Garrett,
danil Hunter, Max Crosby, Josh Heinz, Allen, Brian Burns. A
lot of guys. They don't even sniff the playoffs. Yeah,
Nick Bose has got some, but yes, so did everybody
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on those Niners. The overreaction's crazy, what you really want?
I have always argued that an edge rusher is the
second most important defensive lineman. He's not even the most
important defensive lineman. The most important defensive lineman is the
interior defensive lineman. Because a it's a very rare body type,
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six feet one three point thirty with great feet. There
are edge rushers all over this league. Everybody's got every
second team's got a great one. How many great interior
defensive linemen are there, Chris Jones, Jalen Carter, not many,
Reggie White, Aaron Donald, you can name them because there's
been so few body types. The second thing is all
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quarterbacks hate pressure at their feet. Tom Brady never minded
pressure on the outside. He'd step up. He hated pressure
around his feet. So did Peyton Manning. So does Mahomes.
So to me, when is Mahomes been blown out in
the Super Bowl when he doesn't have a good left tackle.
He's won super Bowls without great receivers, He's run super
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Bowls without great defenses. But when he's had bad left tackles,
Patrick Mahomes, our most skiptic quarterback's been blown off the
field twice, right, So to me, move him. And you
know you're paying Dak a lot, so you got to
give Dak protection. They're trying to rebuild their own line.
You got to give him a weapon. Seedee Lamb. But
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I think Jerry Jones said it this week, and we
noticed in the Cowboys Green Bay game. I think micah
was great for Green Bay because they don't do well
in free agency. It's kind of a boring town. Stars
don't are not interested, and they've drafted and developed so well,
they don't need a first round pick for a year
or two. And they're also green Bay as a team.
Because of their offensive greatness and efficiency, They're going to
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lead a lot of games with four minutes to go.
They need a bullpen, they need a closer. So it's
a good fit. Dallas doesn't lead as many games late,
Dallas needs flexibility in draft capital, and now they have
four number one picks in the next two years. So
it's just the overreaction to it. And Jerry Jones talked
about it yesterday, Dak's on fire. You had to pay Dak.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
I've got to tell you that I think he's played
well every game this year, and well enough at quarterback
rush to make.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The playoffs, right, And you talked about it before.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Just singlearly that he's capable of If he continues to
play like this and we can keep putting it together
and paste it up there, then we've got a chance.
It's very simple. Well, Dak was indispensable in my mind,
and so yes, and Michael wasn't.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And he's right. There are great edge rushers everywhere. The
Bengals have two great receivers. They couldn't even make the
playoffs last year, they couldn't be one of the fourteen
teams in the league with Joe Burrow. So this idea
that you can't move Micah Parsons. I remember years ago
talking to Bill Polly in a GM. He said, when
we drafted Peyton Manning, we knew we would lead games
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late in the fourth quarter, so we had to get
an edge rusher. We needed a closer in our bullpen.
The reason Mariano Rivera is the all time great because
the Yankees led so many games in the eighth inning.
The Oakland A's could have a great closer. They trail
in most of those. So Michael works for Green Bay.
They lead late all the time. It's like a Peyton
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Manning's Colts Lafleur Jordan love those receivers. They usually have
good old lines. They need somebody to close make a
big play. Dallas wasn't in that spot. Dallas needed flexibility.
Dallas couldn't even pay eight million bucks for Derick Henry.
I mean, Jerry Jones is a deal maker for two
free agent periods, he didn't do anything he wanted to.
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So this green Bay Dallas game is an example. Is
that if Dak's playing like this, and you go into
the next draft with two first round picks and you
don't need a quarterback in seven teams in the league,
including the two we watched last night, Miami, New York
and maybe Cincinnati. Who knows Pearls hurt again. Dallas is
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going to turn those two number one picks. It could
turn it into six other picks. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
No, no, turn on the news. This is the herdline news.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
All right, Colin, let's get started with AJ Brown and
the Eagles. Obviously, Philadelphia's second half output or lack thereof,
against the Bucks was embarrassing, and AJ Brown was a
non factor in the game against Tampa. He caught two
passes for seven yards on nine targets. Then he put
out that cryptic tweet after the game, Nick Sirianni, he's
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down playing all of it.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Colin.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Aj is very important to this football team, you know,
I know he wants to contribute. I know he wants
to contribute and you know, do the things that he's
capable of doing. He wants to contribute into into these wins.
And he's had a couple of games where he hasn't
been able to, you know, and for different reasons of
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why we haven't in these games.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I still I'll still make an argument that for most careers,
you're better served for most careers working for a great company,
being part of a great team and winning. But if
you are a pro football player and a wide receiver
and you're being tackled by big, strong men, you got
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about six years of prime. Even Pooka, as much as
we love him, gets dinged up a lot, and that
I think it'd be like asking Toobe Bryant only five shots.
I'll back pro athletes, especially in really physical professions, you
got a six year window to create your legacy. And
I think he is very frustrated. I don't think he's
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a great fit. I don't think this quarterback in him
not blaming anybody. Nine targets seven yards, like it's it
is every three games out of four, they've got an
aj Brown issue. And I think he's like, I need
more shots. I got about three more years of prime,
and usually I'm hey, you're winning games. Winning games is important.
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It's not the only thing for a pro athlete. Legacy
matters too. There's a reason Tom Brady signed a big
contract with Fox. He won a lot of games. He
took pay cuts, and he took pay cuts to win more,
and to win more, you get offered more jobs. That's
the reality post career. So I look at AJ Brown
and I say, these numbers are horrific.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Wow, I'm a little surprised by this take. So so,
just so I heard you correctly, like AJ Brown's got
a legacy to protect. Hey, man, I need the ball,
I need stats.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Is that we're saying Aj Brown is a top three
to four receiver in the sport. He gets targeted less
than a backup tight end. He's as productive with a
Jalen Hurts as a as a number three tight end
for Buffalo.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
So you know, game script often dictates, you know, the
target share. Remember against the Rams, they're trailing. Hey, we
got a fource feed AJ Brown. Let's get in the ball,
and it worked and they won. They're up twenty four
to six. I believe against the Bucks they're not throwing
the football a lot.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Hurts.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
I think at zero passing yards in the second half,
they didn't need it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
They won. So on some level I would just be
sitting around.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Be like, bro, we're winning. We're the best team in
the league. We just won the Super Bowl. What are
you crying about? That would be my counter to AJ Brown.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, again, I think winning is really important, but it's
one when you have a career. What it could be
in working on oil, Derek. If you have a shorter career,
lawyers don't, doctors don't you and I don't. But if
you have a short six seven year career, like let's
say you're an astronaut in the Space program, you're going
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to get one opportunity in your entire career to get
on that rocket. One. So you have to be a
little selfish. If you want a legacy as being an
all time great ass run, you don't get six trips
up there. NASA has not given you six. So my
take is we always bang on pro athletes, Oh they're selfish.
There are careers where there are timelines to be highly effective,
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and I think this is one of them.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So what's the move.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Do they go to them and say, hey, Jay, listen, honestly,
this is nonsense. We threw you the ball nine times,
it didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We want who.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Cares to do you want to be here? Aj? Do
you want to win another Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
And I would say, if I was Aja privately, if
you want to move me, all be a good soldier,
giving you leverage in a trade negotiation. I will not
go public. Remember when lu Al Sinder moved out of Milwaukee.
He made a decision a year before. But he was
a good guy, he was a good steward. He said, listen,
I'm not going to screw it up. I want you
guys to get tons of players. And so he was
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unhappy the year before. Milwaukee ended up up doing about
as well as you could do. And I think if
I was Aj Brown, I'm like, I'm not going to
screw the ore. Remember when Carmelo Anthony was in denvern
he He's like, I got to be a Nick. Well,
the Knicks had to give up so much to get him.
He was an expensive chandelier in an empty man so
there was nothing around it.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Well, you've boxed me into a corner here because I'm
usually pro player and your arguments interesting.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I'm sorry, I go.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
To the Eagles on if I'm the Eagles, Hey, we
need you to win another Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
We're just not going to force feed you when we
don't need to. Sorry, And if.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
You want to cry about it and go on social media,
that's you. But we want you here, We're not training you.
Why would I move off AJ Brown? Like you said,
he's a top four receiver in the league. This is
a tough spot for the Eagles. You can't move a J.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Brown anyways.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
All right, let's move on to the Ravens.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
They are one and three for just the second time
in John Harbaugh's era, and bad news calling Lamar Jackson.
We don't know his status for this weekend's game against
the Texans and that nasty defense. However, we do know
about two defenders. Mata Bouquet, sorry for butchering his name.
He's out for the season. The defensive lineman Rokwan Smith
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set to miss multiple weeks. He's an elite linebacker. I
think he's the highest paid defender they have. And Marlin Humphrey,
who's been burnt toast in the slot. You know, some
people might say that's not a loss. Still, he's out
for a few weeks. We don't know yet about Nate Wiggins,
the young corner. Listen at Harball. Baltimore is up the
creek right now, here's Harball talking about it.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
I'm concerned, but I'm not overwhelmed by it. You know,
we played the three losses or kids probably three of
the top teams in the league for sure, you know,
And that's just the hand we've been dealt. But it
doesn't really matter. We've got to win the next game,
and then once you win the next game, then you
have a chance to start stacking some wins. And that's
what we've got to do, big picture wise, but small
picture wise. We got to do a great job of
putting together a great game plan and a great practice
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and then a great game.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, it's both horrballs. Are dealing with major injuries right now,
Jim on the old line and the back end. I
I understand, you know, like listen Vikings O line, Chargers
O line, you have major injuries to one unit, Baltimore's
D line. I'm more concerned with Lamar Jackson playing Kansas City.
I was a concerned with the offense after the first series.
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He played poorly, and I'm a huge Lamar fan. The
defense will eventually get it right when they get somewhat healthier,
But I think Baltimore's in a weird spot. You know,
the winner in all this is Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.
I mean, seriously, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I know you can
shake your head, but no, you're right. You're right. Cincinnati's
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poorly run, Baltimore's falling apart in Cleveland is basically looking
ahead the next year. Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers are
gonna win this division.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yeah, I'm gonna look at the odds on that real quick.
The line for Texans Ravens was seven. It's down to three.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
And a half.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Okay, this is a trouble spot. Here's the worst news
for Baltimore. They got the Rams after the Texans. Yeah,
then they got to buy. They could go into the
buy one in five. Do you consider shutting down Lamar
for a couple of weeks here and then make a
second half push, because well if one in five too
much of a hole, or like, the Steelers are not
going to run away in high.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Know because with Lamar, I could win every game in
my division that I have remaining on the schedule. I
mean if they I mean, if you start looking at
their games, they could beat you know, they got another
game against Cleveland, They got the Bengals twice.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
They may face Jake Browning twice. That might be too
Brownie out.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So I mean, I think they're going to be so
dominant in division if they're just decent on defense. But
eventually I wouldn't shut anything down.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Yeah, I mean the second half of their schedule.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Look at that Colin.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Brown's Jets, Bengal of Browning Steelers, Browning May. Yeah, they're
gonna win a lot of games. So maybe Lamar sits
this week? Should we go back? You want to lock
in for blazing five.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'll take you a number. I'm gonna lock in right now.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Let's do. Let me give you a number. I'm gonna
loock in the Colts hosting the Raiders. What is the
number at right now? Okay, let me it's six and
a half. I'm locking in the Colts right now.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, what is that? I'm seeing seven?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Colin, But hey, I'm gonna lock that in.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah. Let's story, yeah, final story, real quick.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Your Broncos we got to revisit and they blasted the Bengals.
But but but look at this Jamar Chase very unhappy,
and guess what head coach Zach Taylor has to calm
him down. So last year it was Burrow very unhappy.
Now it's Jamar Chase. What the hell is going on
and he's popping off on the sideline. Now both of
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them are downplaying the interaction afterward. But Colin, you know
the video doesn't lie.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
We're talking about the possession, talking about what plays we
can run. How can we know we attack certain coverages
and get out there, make us a ball.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
He's just competitive.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
He just wants to win.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
And it comes across as emotional, but that's just That's
just a captain that works his tail off. All he
wants to do is win the game. All he wants
to do his affect the game. And and oftentimes he
feels like if I have the bone in my hand,
I can do that. And I don't disagree with him.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
So I don't get two worked up. I mean there
are certain players, yeah, I mean I think Zach Taylor.
You and I have gone many rounds over this guy.
Colin's terrible. He's not a good football coach. He's capable.
They're never going to buy him out. It's the cheapest
franchise in the sport. They're not going to buy him out.
(27:30):
This is why the Bengals are the Bengals. I mean,
last night, it's a great example. If you take Joe
Burrow out of this franchise. They can't function. It's just
a bad franchise with a cheap owner, a small scouting department.
They don't make deals. They're the opposite of the Eagles.
They're not well funded, they're risk averse, They're totally dependent
on their quarterback. They're the opposite of the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Okay, so let me ask you this, Colin.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
If I showed up for the show and I was
ill prepared and I was fumbling my words and messing
up everything, like three or four days a week, I
would not be ready for the show.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
And that's a sign that I'm not locked in.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
That's Zach Taylor every week basically in September for the
last four years. I'm not even making that up. He
never comes ready for action, and that, to me is
a sign that the coaching is just not very good.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
But adjustments.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
He didn't have a lot of experience. I mean, you
can argue about it. This is the Cincinnati Bengals. They
just don't. They are cheap. They are a dollar store
in a in a billion dollar global landscape. They're cheap.
Look at their scouting department compared to Philadelphia's. I mean,
the owner thinks he's the GM like it's it's crazy town.
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Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd Line.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
News Herd Hierarchy Top of the Hour, The Raiders at
the Colts is currently minus six and a half Colts.
I'm locking that pick in. It's my favorite pick of
the week. The Colts at home should have beaten the
ram I think the Cults are really good minus six
and a half against the Raiders, who uh, just Pete
(29:07):
Carroll's infatuation with Gino Smith. I'll just never get it
all right. Major League Baseball is on a heater. Listen
to this ESPN rading this year. Baseball up twenty one percent,
FOX up nine, Major League Baseball Network up thirteen percent.
So the baseball playoffs start tonight. That and A yeah,
(29:30):
like it's it's they figured it out. They sped the
game up, they leaned into offense. It worked. That an
alarming truth happening with Brock Purty. Next.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
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and neon Eastern n AM Pacific for the A. L.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Pennant begins with two game ones as the league's best
square offs in the American League Divisional Series start Saturday
on Fox and FS one.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Two Baseball Playoffs starts tonight. You got some good ones,
you got some really good ones. I'm taking the Brewers
over the Mariners in six. Brewers win the National League,
Mariners the American League. I'll take the Brewers. Their bullpen
leads that don'll lose them in six. So this Thursday,
(30:25):
I would put this game in my blazing five rams
hosting the Niners. Brock Purty's got a banged up toe
hurt again. Now we all know how I felt about
brock Purtty. I think brock Purty did an amazing job.
But I've said this for years. Don't fall in love
with stories. There's a difference between stories in reality. Y'all
(30:47):
fell in love with brock Purty being the last guy drafted.
But there's a reason he was the last guy drafted.
He was smaller than you want and reckless. In his
four years at Iowa State, he led the FBS and
interceptions the entire sport, one hundred and thirty nine teams.
(31:09):
He led college football and picks this year picks bad ones.
You know what bo Nicks did at Oregon is last
year forty five touchdowns, three picks, he didn't throw any
of them, and Bonix had five offensive coordinators in the
four or five years he was in college football. So
Brock Purty's becoming Brock Purty. He's reckless. He was reckless
(31:29):
in college. That's why I fell to the last round.
Since Week seven last season, he has fewer passing touchdowns
than Russell Wilson, a worse passer rating than Geno Smith,
and the second most interceptions in football. And since Week
seven of last year, Donald's got a one h three
point one passer rating. He's got a ninety Okay, so
(31:51):
you could it the redemption story of Baker and Donald
were rooted in talent. Donald's a big, strong, soon super
athletic quarterback. Baker's got a big time arm and was
a number one pick. You could have gotten those guys
for thirty five million a year. Purty's gonna cost you
fifty three. That's more than Josh Allen's cap hit. What
(32:13):
are you doing?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
So?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I look at this with bro Perdy. I like stories too,
bedtime stories and a warm glass of milk. But you
fell in love with the story. And Kyle Shanahan kind
of likes quarterbacks that he can kind of control. Well
you can, but you watched bon Nix last night. Bonix's
velocity and his movement. Oh yeah, he's got Sean Payton.
(32:39):
Bonix is a first round quarterback talent. So's Sam, So's
Baker's watched the games. You can see it, and it's
just interesting. The story in San Francisco, they had a
choice here. It could have been Sam Darnold. He was
in the building a couple of years ago. So Sam
Donald has lost only three of his last fourteen starts.
(33:03):
And Brock pretty since last week last year, Week seven
is four and seven. I'm not anti brock Pretty, but
I bang on this all the time. We all like stories.
Don't fall in love with them. Don't fall in love
it like they're They're like, oh my god, this is
it's there's a reason guys fall to the last pick
in the seventh round. Size mechanics, reckless, there's there's a
(33:27):
reason for all this stuff, by the way they play
the Rams and that defense. Thursday, here's Kyle Shanahan on
Brock Purdy's injury.
Speaker 11 (33:38):
Anytime guys are sore and hurting on a Monday, you
usually don't stress too much. About it. But when anytime
you have a Thursday game, it's a totally different element.
So I'm concerned with anybody who's not totally healthy at
this moment. But we'll have to get more information on
that later today to really kind of have a clue
of what to speculate.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
So let's if you look at the whole redemption story
this league. One of the most amazing stats about the
National Football League. Half the players think about this are undrafted.
And Tonio Gates is a Hall of Famer. He was undrafted.
I mean, that is happening all over this league. So
(34:20):
it's amazing. But you can't fall in love with those stories.
You can fall in like with them, but you pan
Tonio Gates because by year two, about halfway through it,
you're like, oh, whoa, this guy's dominant, like Tukinnakua fifth
round talent. Sometimes you get lucky and some guys fall,
(34:40):
but there's not a long list of great all time
quarterbacks in the seventh Now, Kurt Warner his story. You
got great story and great talent. It does happen. I mean,
Tony Romo, great story, undrafted, really really special talent. But
I most of your great court people always say this, Well,
(35:00):
you can never figure out the NFL. I mean, it's
such a crap shoot with quarterbacks. Nonsense, that's nonsense. Best
quarterback in the NFL right now, Mahomes first rounder, Josh
Allen first rounder, Justin Herbert first rounder, Joe Burrow first rounder.
They're all first rounders. Jalen Hurts ooh, he fell the second.
He's also got the best roster in the league. So
(35:22):
you start look Jared Goff first rounder, Baker first rounder,
Sam Darnold first rounder, John Elway, Dan Marino, Aaron Rodgers,
the overwhelming, the great quarterbacks in this league. Of all
of the first rounders, Kurt Warner is a complete outlier, Brady.
You know, even Russell Wilson fell. Dak fell. But the
reason Dak fell is he still doesn't Usually if you
(35:44):
look at the history of Dak Prescott throw the greatest
football leadership, toughness iq EQ that's Dak stuff. That's his magic,
all right. So I said this before the break, it's
pretty remarkable. Baseball did something that I always appreciate on
this show. I talk a lot about it. Stop guys
(36:06):
worry about being right, get it right. Baseball made a
series of bold necessary moves. The last few years, the
dad is in. They've all worked. The ratings are up
for everybody. The games are faster, there's more base runners,
there's more action, big stars in big cities. Like the NFL,
Baseball leaned into offense. Okay, universe, universal dh no more pitchers,
(36:33):
hitting bases are bigger, defensive shift, eliminated torpedo bats, just
like the NFL. They're rewarding fans and they've shortened the games.
They actually made a Hollywood pivot. More superheroes in big
in big blockbuster movies and only a two and a
half hour runtime. I love ken Burns, but baseball can't
(36:58):
be a ken Burns Civil War doc where you slowly
move into a still photo action. Lots of it. Base
Runners so tonight, Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Reds late today,
Cubs Padres is the headliner. But I think what baseball did.
They got out of the indie movie business. They knew
(37:19):
the centophiles, the movie freaks. They were going to show
up the baseball traditionalists. They're not going to go anywhere.
The baseball is part of their summer. They're not going anywhere.
Do not play to traditionalists in any industry. Get out
of the wonky politics, crime, border economy. That's what won
(37:42):
it for Trump. Stay to the stuff most people care about.
And in baseball, more base runners, more action, big stars,
big markets shorten the games. It's all worked. The data
is in and again this whole fear of the big
markets dominate. Milwaukee's the best team in baseball. Milwaukee led baseball.
(38:06):
There's so many ways to win in baseball. Now, Toronto
and Milwaukee your top seeds. They hit home runs, but
they led baseball in singles obviously, the Yankees and the Dodgers.
It's home runs. San Diego, big sticks, great bullpen, same
with Milwaukee, Seattle Dodgers. I think I saw a stat.
I don't think you can win a World Series with
(38:28):
a bad bullpen. I think I saw a stat that
the Dodgers blew twenty six save opportunities. If you watch
the Dodgers this year, they led a lot of games
in the eighth inning twenty six times they lost it.
So what I think is fascinating is the Dodgers have
the best roster and great offense, and they hit a
(38:48):
bunch of home runs, which matters in baseball. You got
to score quickly. You can't. You're facing the best pitching
staffs and the best bullpens. You can't manufacture every run.
You're not going to get four straight hits. You got
to hit. So that benefits the Dodgers and the Yankees greatly.
But they got a bad bullpen and uh can't wait.
(39:08):
Starts tonight, heard Hierarchy top of next hour. J Mac,
you have not only had a bad couple of weeks
of betting the Brock pretty thing. I know stings a
little bit for you, Yes, yes, but will you I
think here's a more troubling thing. Is that and is
that availability matters when two has signed the extension. My
(39:30):
take was, guys, Josh Allen doesn't get hurt, Patrick Mahomes
doesn't get hurt. Farv didn't get hurt. Two has hurt
a lot. I'm not saying major injuries, but Brock is
again banged up and unable to play last week. I
think it was fairly obvious he was not right. Doesn't
that worry you a little bit as a smaller quarterback, Not.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Really, because he's outstanding.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Okay, So first of all, Number one, I know you
had some stats on Brock struggling with interceptions in college.
Just as a reminder, Jordan Love led Division One in
interceptions in college. So for Jordan Love, it's hey fling it,
no risk it, no biscuit. He's got far of But
when Purdy does it, it's like.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Okay, remember, okay, contextualize it. Jordan Love's big with a
huge arm, and he's a world class athlete. Brought perty
small okay, arm, average athletically, Jordan loves trait. When I
talk to GMS, it's all about traits. I mean Briy.
If you go back to Bryce Young, the concern is
small and spindly. But he won a ton in college.
(40:35):
Josh Allen didn't, but they were like, he's six six,
two fifty with a huge arm. NFL quarterbacks don't care
about stats as much as they care about traits. Jordan
Love is big, athletic with a whip. That dude's got
a arm.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Of his big ye he's a large quarterback. He lost
them in the game against the Browns, but not anyways,
real quick on the two Brock picks, So one was
tipped by a defensive tackle, maybe because Brock is small,
and the other was because Christian McCaffrey juggled it and
it went into the arms of a Jacksonville defender. I
know the fumble was on Brock, but I think you're
going a little overboard on a guy coming back from
(41:08):
shoulder and tow injuries and missing a bunch of dudes.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I know you're waiting for Rock to screw.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Up, but Jordan Love is six' four with he's been
ten and a half inch. Hands Brock purty is six
feet tall with nine and a quarter hand. Size and
that matters TO gms because when the ball gets, wet,
yep and that Brock purty has struggled when it's, overcast.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
All.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
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Here we go. This is a Tuesday, man. We got
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Nick Wright stops by Jama. You know, I love Bonnix
(00:48):
and Sean Payton. I picked them to win their division.
But Sean Payton's history is he's thirty and thirty in September.
He loads up the offense. He loaded it up with
Drew Brees, who struggled early. With Sean Payton, he loads
it up with bow Nicks. There's a lot of mistakes
until last night.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Beeing Jing Browning. Yes, here we get excited.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So turning a football team around is hard, but it's
not that hard. There's a reason Parcells did it over
and over and over there's a reason Hardbod does it
over and over and over. Some people are smarter, some
people have a better eye for talent. It's not that hard.
Sean Payton took over Denver. They were in cap hell.
Russell Wilson is still their number one cap hit today.
(01:35):
They were five and twelve. We're scoring offense in the league.
Lowsey offensive line, very little skill today. Start of year three,
great o' line, two capable running backs, dudes everywhere in
the perimeter. How many guys do they have? They can
run and catch a lot. They'll also lead the NFL
in sacks for the second straight year. I love bo Nicks,
(01:56):
but he got lucky getting Sean Payton from play calling
to play design. He's one of the few coaches in
the NFL that is very good with personnel. He and
Harbaugh no personnel. A lot of good coaches. Kyle Shanahan,
Andy Reid, I don't think you're great with it or
don't care about it. Peyton's great at it. So nine
different guys caught a ball. Everybody's almost got the same
(02:17):
body type, lean long, with good hands, They run good routes.
It is a Super Bowl roster. I mean you watch
the Jets with their new coach. What do they do well?
What are they do? They do anything well? Broncos do
a lot well. If you lead the NFL in sacks,
you have perhaps the great play caller and designer next
(02:40):
to Andy Reid, and you've got all sorts of wide
receiver talent on the outside. Now, I love bo Nicks.
Watch how hard he throws the ball, his velocity, Unlike
a lot of these young quarterbacks. He throws the ball
down the field. And because of that, Sean Payton puts
a ton on his plate. He throws it down the field.
A lot of these young quarterbacks ink dunk, dik dunk. No.
(03:02):
Look at how often when he throws it out into
the flat, a running back or a receiver, a tight
end doesn't have to wait for it. And again he
makes hard throws. He'll throw him into congested areas. He'll
go right after people. He's intense. He kind of reminds
me of the opposite of Drew Locke. It is all
business all the time, hard throws, not messing around. He'll
(03:24):
bark at Sean Payton, and Sean Payton will bark back.
And Sean is a great coach. But He's not easy
to play for as a quarterback. Go back to Drew Brees.
Drew Brees second year in the turnaround in New Orleans
second year had his worst passer rating of his career.
That's why Shawn's record in September is just okay, thirty
to thirty because he puts so much on the plate
(03:44):
of his quarterbacks, so it is hard to turn around.
Denver people do not understand Russell Wilson is still their
number one cap hit. It was a mess. They gave
up draft capital, they gave up all those picks. That
a terrible offensive line they had like Courtland Sutton and
a lot of nonsense. You look at them now. It
is velocity on both sides. That's what Harbaugh did thirty
(04:05):
second defense to number one, same guys a year later.
So coaching works at mile high and the sea level.
It's about the process, it's about intensity. Coaches do it differently.
But the Broncos, my AFC West champion pick back to form,
cut down on the mistakes and bury the hapless Bengals
(04:26):
team here Sean.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Obviously early in the season, all thirty one other teams
are really working to figure out who they are we're
no different, but it certainly was a step in the
right direction. There were a lot of things that we
were able to do tonight that hopefully can carry over.
(04:52):
Now we change quickly to a team that just finished
when in the Super Bowl. So we'll enjoy this one
and then get back to work tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I mean, just remember how bad this thing was. He
had Nathaniel Hackett. The offensive line was atrocious, clock management
was embarrassing. The ownership group was looking to sell the GM.
I liked he's still around, but there wasn't. They didn't
do much well, and I mean literally, Sean Payton rebuilt
(05:21):
the offensive line before he coached the game. He rebuilt
it in the first offseason. He got. Some of these
teams in the NFL, they're like on year five of
rebuilding the offensive line. Sean McVay, Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton,
Andy Reid over and over and over rebuilt o lines overnight.
So I just think Denver is one of those five
(05:42):
or six rosters in the NFL that looked different, just
more speed, more skill. Broncos Coast all right, the game
that started before that game Jets and Dolphins. So these
are two bad organizations for, in my opinion, two very
different reasons. The Jets are bad because they make really
poor choices. There's too many voices upstairs. They make poor choices.
(06:05):
I mean they fired Robert Slim, the best coach on
their staff. They fired him as he was preparing his
team to play a game against Buffalo that had he
want he would have been in first place. You kept
him for three and a half years. That's when you're
going to fire him. They just make poor choices head coaches,
GMS quarterbacks. They have patience, but they can't get out
of their own way. They have urgency. They just make
(06:27):
bad choices. The Dolphins are different. The Dolphins are rarely awful.
Sixty percent of the time in the last fifteen years
they win seven, eight or nine games. They're not awful.
The Dolphins are just too loyal to average people. Their
standards aren't very high. I mean, Tyreek Hill has been
banging on his coach and his quarterback for two years publicly.
(06:51):
I said it last year. Move him, didn't Now he's
hurt Tua. In the AFC, the best teams play in cold,
windy weather in December and January. The Baltimore's, the Kansas
City's the Cincinnatis two doesn't work. Move off him. No,
they gave me a huge extension. How about Chris Greer,
(07:12):
the GM been a GM for a decade. I think
he's the longest tenured GM in the AFC. It's got
no playoff wins. Move on, Tyreek Tua, Chris Greer, too
much patience. Go look at the Miami Heat excellence top
to bottom. They move people don't want to play here.
Lebron By the Jets. The Jets want to win, but
(07:34):
they make terrible choices and do nothing well. The Dolphins
actually do offense pretty well. They're never really terrible. They
make some good hires, some good acquisitions, They have some
good players. But I mean, why is Miami settling? The
Jets aren't satisfied being lousy. They're just incapable of fixing it.
(07:58):
The Dolphins are really okay winning eight to nine games.
They're just okay being okay. And that's what I see.
I mean, I think those are two struggling franchises, and
I think in Miami they they've still convinced themselves. You know,
Mike McDaniel's smart. Well to him made the Pro Bowl.
He hasn't been hurt lately. Well, Chris Greer, he's part
(08:20):
of the family. Okay, in a conference with Buffalo and
Mahomes and Andy Reid and now Denver and now Herbert
and hardball, that's not good enough. The Jets, they don't
do anything well. I mean justin fields. You got to
watch the game. Doesn't throw the ball down the field.
(08:41):
You know, a great athlete, great kid, that's not a
franchise quarterback. They're all in four and here's here's Aaron Glenn,
who promised what he took over discipline, effectiveness, no more
sloppy play.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I'm very disappointed. And there's no way way you can
win any game with thirteen penalties and three turnoo was.
It just can't happen. But what we have to do
is go back to work. We have to go That's
the only way that we can fix them.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, it's I mean, when Aaron Glenn got the job,
the whole takeaway was, Hey, we're not gonna be like
those guys. We're gonna get disciplined. It's not that they're losing.
Remember when Dan Campbell with Jared Goff, excellent quarterback, took
over Detroit. Go look at the first ten fifteen games awful,
that's not it. But remember what that Detroit team was like.
(09:34):
Do you remember when he first took over. I can
remember going on the air in the first year and
a half, and they weren't good, saying, man, I don't
think I've ever seen a team play this hard. They're
not very good. The defense is atrocious, but man, they
play hard. I can't even say that about the Jets.
They're just you gotta do something right after four or
five games. Even when Peyton took over Denver in the
first year with Russell Wilson, he made Russell Wilson the
(09:57):
best Russell Wilson could be. He fixed Russell Wilson to
the level you could fix Russell Wilson four or five games.
I gotta see stuff. I can't see a lot of penalties.
I can't see a lot of nonsense. I can't see
a lot of turnovers. I got to be able to
point to something and to go, oh, that defensive coach
has a great defense. Now the defense is worse, So
j Mac. You know, Mets fans tend to be Jets
(10:19):
fans in New York. So it has been a bad
forty eight hours in New York. For Mets and Jet.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Guy very tough. The over did hit last night, so
we were happy about that. But Colin, I honestly think
the Jets probably pick up the phone today and call
like the Rams, Hey, you know, are you guys interested
in Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I start moving off defensive players. I know it's early.
People don't.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Oh he loves Sauce Gardner. You're not going anywhere. Go
ahead and start accumulating draft picks. I like the offensive pieces, right,
you like your Wilson Bryce Hall offensive line.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I like Alan, the other running back from Wisconsin. Yeah.
I think they have peace. I think they I'm not
worried about talent. I just you have to show me
something through four or five games. You got to be
good something. When Lincoln Riley took over USC, the offense
was good immediately. You gotta be good at something. If
you're a defensive coach, your defense can't look like that.
That can't be what it looks like.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Jets are gonna battle the Saints and Titans for the
number one pick. And I think you said yesterday you
liked Dante Moore above Simpson from Alabama. Because the Jets
are gonna start looking at quarterback like the Evaluating Starts.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Now, Oh yeah right, yeah.
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Speaker 1 (12:07):
So I was a little perplexed at the overreaction to
Jerry Jones trading MICHAEH. Parsons. And I've been as critical
of the Cowboys as I think almost any national broadcaster.
I talked about the Cowboys. I followed this less last
year than any year, but I thought the Michael Parsons
(12:30):
move made a lot of sense. And let me explain this.
There's three things you need to be a great team,
a great head coach, a great quarterback into me a
great left tackle. The Rams had to rebuild with Anne
Drew Whitworth retired. They were fine without Von Miller. They
even made it fine without Aaron Donald, although he's great.
(12:52):
I would have moved Michael Parsons too. Edge rushers do
not equal super bowls. Let me list the highest paid
edge rushers in the NFL current Micah TJ Watt, Miles, Garrett,
danil Hunter, Max Crosby, Josh Heinz, Allen, Brian Burns. A
lot of guys. They don't even sniff the playoffs. Yeah,
Nick Bose has got some, but yes, so did everybody
(13:14):
on those Niners. The overreaction's crazy, what you really want?
I have always argued that an edge rusher is the
second most important defensive lineman. He's not even the most
important defensive lineman. The most important defensive lineman is the
interior defensive lineman. Because a it's a very rare body type,
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six feet one three point thirty with great feet. There
are edge rushers all over this league. Everybody's got every
second team's got a great one. How many great interior
defensive linemen are there, Chris Jones, Jalen Carter, not many,
Reggie White, Aaron Donald, you can name them because there's
been so few body types. The second thing is all
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quarterbacks hate pressure at their feet. Tom Brady never minded
pressure on the outside. He'd step up. He hated pressure
around his feet. So did Peyton Manning. So does Mahomes.
So to me, when is Mahomes been blown out in
the Super Bowl when he doesn't have a good left tackle.
He's won super Bowls without great receivers, He's run super
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Bowls without great defenses. But when he's had bad left tackles,
Patrick Mahomes, our most skiptic quarterback's been blown off the
field twice, right, So to me, move him. And you
know you're paying Dak a lot, so you got to
give Dak protection. They're trying to rebuild their own line.
You got to give him a weapon. Seedee Lamb. But
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I think Jerry Jones said it this week, and we
noticed in the Cowboys Green Bay game. I think micah
was great for Green Bay because they don't do well
in free agency. It's kind of a boring town. Stars
don't are not interested, and they've drafted and developed so well,
they don't need a first round pick for a year
or two. And they're also green Bay as a team.
Because of their offensive greatness and efficiency, They're going to
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lead a lot of games with four minutes to go.
They need a bullpen, they need a closer. So it's
a good fit. Dallas doesn't lead as many games late,
Dallas needs flexibility in draft capital, and now they have
four number one picks in the next two years. So
it's just the overreaction to it. And Jerry Jones talked
about it yesterday, Dak's on fire. You had to pay Dak.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
I've got to tell you that I think he's played
well every game this year, and well enough at quarterback
rush to make.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The playoffs, right, And you talked about it before.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Just singlearly that he's capable of If he continues to
play like this and we can keep putting it together
and paste it up there, then we've got a chance.
It's very simple. Well, Dak was indispensable in my mind,
and so yes, and Michael wasn't.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And he's right. There are great edge rushers everywhere. The
Bengals have two great receivers. They couldn't even make the
playoffs last year, they couldn't be one of the fourteen
teams in the league with Joe Burrow. So this idea
that you can't move Micah Parsons. I remember years ago
talking to Bill Polly in a GM. He said, when
we drafted Peyton Manning, we knew we would lead games
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late in the fourth quarter, so we had to get
an edge rusher. We needed a closer in our bullpen.
The reason Mariano Rivera is the all time great because
the Yankees led so many games in the eighth inning.
The Oakland A's could have a great closer. They trail
in most of those. So Michael works for Green Bay.
They lead late all the time. It's like a Peyton
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Manning's Colts Lafleur Jordan love those receivers. They usually have
good old lines. They need somebody to close make a
big play. Dallas wasn't in that spot. Dallas needed flexibility.
Dallas couldn't even pay eight million bucks for Derick Henry.
I mean, Jerry Jones is a deal maker for two
free agent periods, he didn't do anything he wanted to.
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So this green Bay Dallas game is an example. Is
that if Dak's playing like this, and you go into
the next draft with two first round picks and you
don't need a quarterback in seven teams in the league,
including the two we watched last night, Miami, New York
and maybe Cincinnati. Who knows Pearls hurt again. Dallas is
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going to turn those two number one picks. It could
turn it into six other picks. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
No, no, turn on the news. This is the herdline news.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
All right, Colin, let's get started with AJ Brown and
the Eagles. Obviously, Philadelphia's second half output or lack thereof,
against the Bucks was embarrassing, and AJ Brown was a
non factor in the game against Tampa. He caught two
passes for seven yards on nine targets. Then he put
out that cryptic tweet after the game, Nick Sirianni, he's
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down playing all of it.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Colin.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Aj is very important to this football team, you know,
I know he wants to contribute. I know he wants
to contribute and you know, do the things that he's
capable of doing. He wants to contribute into into these wins.
And he's had a couple of games where he hasn't
been able to, you know, and for different reasons of
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why we haven't in these games.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I still I'll still make an argument that for most careers,
you're better served for most careers working for a great company,
being part of a great team and winning. But if
you are a pro football player and a wide receiver
and you're being tackled by big, strong men, you got
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about six years of prime. Even Pooka, as much as
we love him, gets dinged up a lot, and that
I think it'd be like asking Toobe Bryant only five shots.
I'll back pro athletes, especially in really physical professions, you
got a six year window to create your legacy. And
I think he is very frustrated. I don't think he's
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a great fit. I don't think this quarterback in him
not blaming anybody. Nine targets seven yards, like it's it
is every three games out of four, they've got an
aj Brown issue. And I think he's like, I need
more shots. I got about three more years of prime,
and usually I'm hey, you're winning games. Winning games is important.
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It's not the only thing for a pro athlete. Legacy
matters too. There's a reason Tom Brady signed a big
contract with Fox. He won a lot of games. He
took pay cuts, and he took pay cuts to win more,
and to win more, you get offered more jobs. That's
the reality post career. So I look at AJ Brown
and I say, these numbers are horrific.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Wow, I'm a little surprised by this take. So so,
just so I heard you correctly, like AJ Brown's got
a legacy to protect. Hey, man, I need the ball,
I need stats.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Is that we're saying Aj Brown is a top three
to four receiver in the sport. He gets targeted less
than a backup tight end. He's as productive with a
Jalen Hurts as a as a number three tight end
for Buffalo.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
So you know, game script often dictates, you know, the
target share. Remember against the Rams, they're trailing. Hey, we
got a fource feed AJ Brown. Let's get in the ball,
and it worked and they won. They're up twenty four
to six. I believe against the Bucks they're not throwing
the football a lot.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Hurts.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
I think at zero passing yards in the second half,
they didn't need it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
They won. So on some level I would just be
sitting around.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Be like, bro, we're winning. We're the best team in
the league. We just won the Super Bowl. What are
you crying about? That would be my counter to AJ Brown.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, again, I think winning is really important, but it's
one when you have a career. What it could be
in working on oil, Derek. If you have a shorter career,
lawyers don't, doctors don't you and I don't. But if
you have a short six seven year career, like let's
say you're an astronaut in the Space program, you're going
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to get one opportunity in your entire career to get
on that rocket. One. So you have to be a
little selfish. If you want a legacy as being an
all time great ass run, you don't get six trips
up there. NASA has not given you six. So my
take is we always bang on pro athletes, Oh they're selfish.
There are careers where there are timelines to be highly effective,
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and I think this is one of them.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So what's the move.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Do they go to them and say, hey, Jay, listen, honestly,
this is nonsense. We threw you the ball nine times,
it didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We want who.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Cares to do you want to be here? Aj? Do
you want to win another Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
And I would say, if I was Aja privately, if
you want to move me, all be a good soldier,
giving you leverage in a trade negotiation. I will not
go public. Remember when lu Al Sinder moved out of Milwaukee.
He made a decision a year before. But he was
a good guy, he was a good steward. He said, listen,
I'm not going to screw it up. I want you
guys to get tons of players. And so he was
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unhappy the year before. Milwaukee ended up up doing about
as well as you could do. And I think if
I was Aj Brown, I'm like, I'm not going to
screw the ore. Remember when Carmelo Anthony was in denvern
he He's like, I got to be a Nick. Well,
the Knicks had to give up so much to get him.
He was an expensive chandelier in an empty man so
there was nothing around it.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Well, you've boxed me into a corner here because I'm
usually pro player and your arguments interesting.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I'm sorry, I go.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
To the Eagles on if I'm the Eagles, Hey, we
need you to win another Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
We're just not going to force feed you when we
don't need to. Sorry, And if.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
You want to cry about it and go on social media,
that's you. But we want you here, We're not training you.
Why would I move off AJ Brown? Like you said,
he's a top four receiver in the league. This is
a tough spot for the Eagles. You can't move a J.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Brown anyways.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
All right, let's move on to the Ravens.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
They are one and three for just the second time
in John Harbaugh's era, and bad news calling Lamar Jackson.
We don't know his status for this weekend's game against
the Texans and that nasty defense. However, we do know
about two defenders. Mata Bouquet, sorry for butchering his name.
He's out for the season. The defensive lineman Rokwan Smith
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set to miss multiple weeks. He's an elite linebacker. I
think he's the highest paid defender they have. And Marlin Humphrey,
who's been burnt toast in the slot. You know, some
people might say that's not a loss. Still, he's out
for a few weeks. We don't know yet about Nate Wiggins,
the young corner. Listen at Harball. Baltimore is up the
creek right now, here's Harball talking about it.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
I'm concerned, but I'm not overwhelmed by it. You know,
we played the three losses or kids probably three of
the top teams in the league for sure, you know,
And that's just the hand we've been dealt. But it
doesn't really matter. We've got to win the next game,
and then once you win the next game, then you
have a chance to start stacking some wins. And that's
what we've got to do, big picture wise, but small
picture wise. We got to do a great job of
putting together a great game plan and a great practice
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and then a great game.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, it's both horrballs. Are dealing with major injuries right now,
Jim on the old line and the back end. I
I understand, you know, like listen Vikings O line, Chargers
O line, you have major injuries to one unit, Baltimore's
D line. I'm more concerned with Lamar Jackson playing Kansas City.
I was a concerned with the offense after the first series.
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He played poorly, and I'm a huge Lamar fan. The
defense will eventually get it right when they get somewhat healthier,
But I think Baltimore's in a weird spot. You know,
the winner in all this is Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.
I mean, seriously, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I know you can
shake your head, but no, you're right. You're right. Cincinnati's
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poorly run, Baltimore's falling apart in Cleveland is basically looking
ahead the next year. Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers are
gonna win this division.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yeah, I'm gonna look at the odds on that real quick.
The line for Texans Ravens was seven. It's down to three.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
And a half.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Okay, this is a trouble spot. Here's the worst news
for Baltimore. They got the Rams after the Texans. Yeah,
then they got to buy. They could go into the
buy one in five. Do you consider shutting down Lamar
for a couple of weeks here and then make a
second half push, because well if one in five too
much of a hole, or like, the Steelers are not
going to run away in high.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Know because with Lamar, I could win every game in
my division that I have remaining on the schedule. I
mean if they I mean, if you start looking at
their games, they could beat you know, they got another
game against Cleveland, They got the Bengals twice.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
They may face Jake Browning twice. That might be too
Brownie out.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So I mean, I think they're going to be so
dominant in division if they're just decent on defense. But
eventually I wouldn't shut anything down.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Yeah, I mean the second half of their schedule.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Look at that Colin.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Brown's Jets, Bengal of Browning Steelers, Browning May. Yeah, they're
gonna win a lot of games. So maybe Lamar sits
this week? Should we go back? You want to lock
in for blazing five.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'll take you a number. I'm gonna lock in right now.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Let's do. Let me give you a number. I'm gonna
loock in the Colts hosting the Raiders. What is the
number at right now? Okay, let me it's six and
a half. I'm locking in the Colts right now.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, what is that? I'm seeing seven?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Colin, But hey, I'm gonna lock that in.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah. Let's story, yeah, final story, real quick.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Your Broncos we got to revisit and they blasted the Bengals.
But but but look at this Jamar Chase very unhappy,
and guess what head coach Zach Taylor has to calm
him down. So last year it was Burrow very unhappy.
Now it's Jamar Chase. What the hell is going on
and he's popping off on the sideline. Now both of
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them are downplaying the interaction afterward. But Colin, you know
the video doesn't lie.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
We're talking about the possession, talking about what plays we
can run. How can we know we attack certain coverages
and get out there, make us a ball.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
He's just competitive.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
He just wants to win.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
And it comes across as emotional, but that's just That's
just a captain that works his tail off. All he
wants to do is win the game. All he wants
to do his affect the game. And and oftentimes he
feels like if I have the bone in my hand,
I can do that. And I don't disagree with him.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
So I don't get two worked up. I mean there
are certain players, yeah, I mean I think Zach Taylor.
You and I have gone many rounds over this guy.
Colin's terrible. He's not a good football coach. He's capable.
They're never going to buy him out. It's the cheapest
franchise in the sport. They're not going to buy him out.
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This is why the Bengals are the Bengals. I mean,
last night, it's a great example. If you take Joe
Burrow out of this franchise. They can't function. It's just
a bad franchise with a cheap owner, a small scouting department.
They don't make deals. They're the opposite of the Eagles.
They're not well funded, they're risk averse, They're totally dependent
on their quarterback. They're the opposite of the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Okay, so let me ask you this, Colin.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
If I showed up for the show and I was
ill prepared and I was fumbling my words and messing
up everything, like three or four days a week, I
would not be ready for the show.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
And that's a sign that I'm not locked in.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
That's Zach Taylor every week basically in September for the
last four years. I'm not even making that up. He
never comes ready for action, and that, to me is
a sign that the coaching is just not very good.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
But adjustments.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
He didn't have a lot of experience. I mean, you
can argue about it. This is the Cincinnati Bengals. They
just don't. They are cheap. They are a dollar store
in a in a billion dollar global landscape. They're cheap.
Look at their scouting department compared to Philadelphia's. I mean,
the owner thinks he's the GM like it's it's crazy town.
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Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd Line.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
News Herd Hierarchy Top of the Hour, The Raiders at
the Colts is currently minus six and a half Colts.
I'm locking that pick in. It's my favorite pick of
the week. The Colts at home should have beaten the
ram I think the Cults are really good minus six
and a half against the Raiders, who uh, just Pete
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Carroll's infatuation with Gino Smith. I'll just never get it
all right. Major League Baseball is on a heater. Listen
to this ESPN rading this year. Baseball up twenty one percent,
FOX up nine, Major League Baseball Network up thirteen percent.
So the baseball playoffs start tonight. That and A yeah,
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like it's it's they figured it out. They sped the
game up, they leaned into offense. It worked. That an
alarming truth happening with Brock Purty. Next.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays
and neon Eastern n AM Pacific for the A. L.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Pennant begins with two game ones as the league's best
square offs in the American League Divisional Series start Saturday
on Fox and FS one.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Two Baseball Playoffs starts tonight. You got some good ones,
you got some really good ones. I'm taking the Brewers
over the Mariners in six. Brewers win the National League,
Mariners the American League. I'll take the Brewers. Their bullpen
leads that don'll lose them in six. So this Thursday,
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I would put this game in my blazing five rams
hosting the Niners. Brock Purty's got a banged up toe
hurt again. Now we all know how I felt about
brock Purtty. I think brock Purty did an amazing job.
But I've said this for years. Don't fall in love
with stories. There's a difference between stories in reality. Y'all
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fell in love with brock Purty being the last guy drafted.
But there's a reason he was the last guy drafted.
He was smaller than you want and reckless. In his
four years at Iowa State, he led the FBS and
interceptions the entire sport, one hundred and thirty nine teams.
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He led college football and picks this year picks bad ones.
You know what bo Nicks did at Oregon is last
year forty five touchdowns, three picks, he didn't throw any
of them, and Bonix had five offensive coordinators in the
four or five years he was in college football. So
Brock Purty's becoming Brock Purty. He's reckless. He was reckless
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in college. That's why I fell to the last round.
Since Week seven last season, he has fewer passing touchdowns
than Russell Wilson, a worse passer rating than Geno Smith,
and the second most interceptions in football. And since Week
seven of last year, Donald's got a one h three
point one passer rating. He's got a ninety Okay, so
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you could it the redemption story of Baker and Donald
were rooted in talent. Donald's a big, strong, soon super
athletic quarterback. Baker's got a big time arm and was
a number one pick. You could have gotten those guys
for thirty five million a year. Purty's gonna cost you
fifty three. That's more than Josh Allen's cap hit. What
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are you doing?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
So?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I look at this with bro Perdy. I like stories too,
bedtime stories and a warm glass of milk. But you
fell in love with the story. And Kyle Shanahan kind
of likes quarterbacks that he can kind of control. Well
you can, but you watched bon Nix last night. Bonix's
velocity and his movement. Oh yeah, he's got Sean Payton.
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Bonix is a first round quarterback talent. So's Sam, So's
Baker's watched the games. You can see it, and it's
just interesting. The story in San Francisco, they had a
choice here. It could have been Sam Darnold. He was
in the building a couple of years ago. So Sam
Donald has lost only three of his last fourteen starts.
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And Brock pretty since last week last year, Week seven
is four and seven. I'm not anti brock Pretty, but
I bang on this all the time. We all like stories.
Don't fall in love with them. Don't fall in love
it like they're They're like, oh my god, this is
it's there's a reason guys fall to the last pick
in the seventh round. Size mechanics, reckless, there's there's a
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reason for all this stuff, by the way they play
the Rams and that defense. Thursday, here's Kyle Shanahan on
Brock Purdy's injury.
Speaker 11 (33:38):
Anytime guys are sore and hurting on a Monday, you
usually don't stress too much. About it. But when anytime
you have a Thursday game, it's a totally different element.
So I'm concerned with anybody who's not totally healthy at
this moment. But we'll have to get more information on
that later today to really kind of have a clue
of what to speculate.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
So let's if you look at the whole redemption story
this league. One of the most amazing stats about the
National Football League. Half the players think about this are undrafted.
And Tonio Gates is a Hall of Famer. He was undrafted.
I mean, that is happening all over this league. So
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it's amazing. But you can't fall in love with those stories.
You can fall in like with them, but you pan
Tonio Gates because by year two, about halfway through it,
you're like, oh, whoa, this guy's dominant, like Tukinnakua fifth
round talent. Sometimes you get lucky and some guys fall,
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but there's not a long list of great all time
quarterbacks in the seventh Now, Kurt Warner his story. You
got great story and great talent. It does happen. I mean,
Tony Romo, great story, undrafted, really really special talent. But
I most of your great court people always say this, Well,
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you can never figure out the NFL. I mean, it's
such a crap shoot with quarterbacks. Nonsense, that's nonsense. Best
quarterback in the NFL right now, Mahomes first rounder, Josh
Allen first rounder, Justin Herbert first rounder, Joe Burrow first rounder.
They're all first rounders. Jalen Hurts ooh, he fell the second.
He's also got the best roster in the league. So
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you start look Jared Goff first rounder, Baker first rounder,
Sam Darnold first rounder, John Elway, Dan Marino, Aaron Rodgers,
the overwhelming, the great quarterbacks in this league. Of all
of the first rounders, Kurt Warner is a complete outlier, Brady.
You know, even Russell Wilson fell. Dak fell. But the
reason Dak fell is he still doesn't Usually if you
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look at the history of Dak Prescott throw the greatest
football leadership, toughness iq EQ that's Dak stuff. That's his magic,
all right. So I said this before the break, it's
pretty remarkable. Baseball did something that I always appreciate on
this show. I talk a lot about it. Stop guys
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worry about being right, get it right. Baseball made a
series of bold necessary moves. The last few years, the
dad is in. They've all worked. The ratings are up
for everybody. The games are faster, there's more base runners,
there's more action, big stars in big cities. Like the NFL,
Baseball leaned into offense. Okay, universe, universal dh no more pitchers,
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hitting bases are bigger, defensive shift, eliminated torpedo bats, just
like the NFL. They're rewarding fans and they've shortened the games.
They actually made a Hollywood pivot. More superheroes in big
in big blockbuster movies and only a two and a
half hour runtime. I love ken Burns, but baseball can't
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be a ken Burns Civil War doc where you slowly
move into a still photo action. Lots of it. Base
Runners so tonight, Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Reds late today,
Cubs Padres is the headliner. But I think what baseball did.
They got out of the indie movie business. They knew
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the centophiles, the movie freaks. They were going to show
up the baseball traditionalists. They're not going to go anywhere.
The baseball is part of their summer. They're not going anywhere.
Do not play to traditionalists in any industry. Get out
of the wonky politics, crime, border economy. That's what won
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it for Trump. Stay to the stuff most people care about.
And in baseball, more base runners, more action, big stars,
big markets shorten the games. It's all worked. The data
is in and again this whole fear of the big
markets dominate. Milwaukee's the best team in baseball. Milwaukee led baseball.
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There's so many ways to win in baseball. Now, Toronto
and Milwaukee your top seeds. They hit home runs, but
they led baseball in singles obviously, the Yankees and the Dodgers.
It's home runs. San Diego, big sticks, great bullpen, same
with Milwaukee, Seattle Dodgers. I think I saw a stat.
I don't think you can win a World Series with
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a bad bullpen. I think I saw a stat that
the Dodgers blew twenty six save opportunities. If you watch
the Dodgers this year, they led a lot of games
in the eighth inning twenty six times they lost it.
So what I think is fascinating is the Dodgers have
the best roster and great offense, and they hit a
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bunch of home runs, which matters in baseball. You got
to score quickly. You can't. You're facing the best pitching
staffs and the best bullpens. You can't manufacture every run.
You're not going to get four straight hits. You got
to hit. So that benefits the Dodgers and the Yankees greatly.
But they got a bad bullpen and uh can't wait.
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Starts tonight, heard Hierarchy top of next hour. J Mac,
you have not only had a bad couple of weeks
of betting the Brock pretty thing. I know stings a
little bit for you, Yes, yes, but will you I
think here's a more troubling thing. Is that and is
that availability matters when two has signed the extension. My
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take was, guys, Josh Allen doesn't get hurt, Patrick Mahomes
doesn't get hurt. Farv didn't get hurt. Two has hurt
a lot. I'm not saying major injuries, but Brock is
again banged up and unable to play last week. I
think it was fairly obvious he was not right. Doesn't
that worry you a little bit as a smaller quarterback, Not.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Really, because he's outstanding.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Okay, So first of all, Number one, I know you
had some stats on Brock struggling with interceptions in college.
Just as a reminder, Jordan Love led Division One in
interceptions in college. So for Jordan Love, it's hey fling it,
no risk it, no biscuit. He's got far of But
when Purdy does it, it's like.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Okay, remember, okay, contextualize it. Jordan Love's big with a
huge arm, and he's a world class athlete. Brought perty
small okay, arm, average athletically, Jordan loves trait. When I
talk to GMS, it's all about traits. I mean Briy.
If you go back to Bryce Young, the concern is
small and spindly. But he won a ton in college.
(40:35):
Josh Allen didn't, but they were like, he's six six,
two fifty with a huge arm. NFL quarterbacks don't care
about stats as much as they care about traits. Jordan
Love is big, athletic with a whip. That dude's got
a arm.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Of his big ye he's a large quarterback. He lost
them in the game against the Browns, but not anyways,
real quick on the two Brock picks, So one was
tipped by a defensive tackle, maybe because Brock is small,
and the other was because Christian McCaffrey juggled it and
it went into the arms of a Jacksonville defender. I
know the fumble was on Brock, but I think you're
going a little overboard on a guy coming back from
(41:08):
shoulder and tow injuries and missing a bunch of dudes.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I know you're waiting for Rock to screw.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Up, but Jordan Love is six' four with he's been
ten and a half inch. Hands Brock purty is six
feet tall with nine and a quarter hand. Size and
that matters TO gms because when the ball gets, wet,
yep and that Brock purty has struggled when it's, overcast.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
All.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Right Herd hierarchy top of hour, two And Nick wright,
too
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