Joe and Jada - Ne-Yo on new COUNTRY album, Beyoncé collabs, Michael Jackson & Prince stories

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by pop and R&B superstar Ne-Yo. Joe and Jada ask the three-time Grammy Award winner about his recent foray into the country music genre, writing "Irreplaceable" by Beyoncé and a slew of Rihanna records, his incredible stories with Michael Jackson and Prince, signing to Jay-Z's Def Jam after writing the smash hit "Let Me Love You" by Mario, why Brian McKnight and Boyz II Men made him take music serious, and his top five songwriters in music.

3:30 - "Irreplaceable" by Beyoncé

5:30 - Ne-Yo brought a gift!

8:00 - Joe got finessed by Vegas Dave

11:30 - Jada saved the day for Ne-Yo in Jamaica

13:45 - Giving Brian McKnight his flowers

16:15 - Ne-Yo hung up on Michael Jackson

20:15 - Prince's approval changed everything for Ne-Yo

29:00 - When the label set Fat Joe up to fail

39:30 - Why it's HARD to pick the single

44:00 - How much do the Grammys mean?

46:30 - Joe is Joe-zempic for Halloween every year

54:00 - Ne-Yo's 4 girlfriends

58:00 - Fat Joe learns about Alaskan King Beds

1:01:45 - Top 5 songwriters of all time

1:04:15 - Fat Joe SWEARS he's cool with Babyface

1:09:00 - Ne-Yo PREMIERES "Simple Things" on Joe and Jada

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
He sees me, puts his guitar down, b lines through
the crowd straight to me. It comes on to me
and says, labor Skill is a good album. Don't let
nobody take you different and walked on. And from that
moment I was like, you know what, I don't give
a damn what the critics say. I don't care what
nobody say. Prince Daida's good, It's good. I'm good, Yo.

(00:30):
What up y artist is Joe Crack the Dawn?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's your boy, Jada. You know what it is? Did
Joe and.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Jadas show every show legendary, every show iconic.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's so forth is so on, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Today we want you to give it up for our brother,
Triple Threat artists, great human being. I can keep going
a little all five hours of the good characteristics of
this brother.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
It makes some noise for my man.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Neo.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Love and respect, love and respect. So you're first country artist.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Because it's out of your country, and do I country inspired?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I do that. I feel like it's disrespectful for me
to call it a country album. There's some burrow on
right now. What are you talking about? Everything's connected.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
But that's why I'm trying to like, but you know,
he ain't you know what they know what they do,
got a platinum pin yo. It's like I didn't even
want to look up the stats right because it's just
too much. But uh, if I looked into the neo bag,
it would definitely end up at Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, you know what's that like?

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Working with the queen and penning something up for her
and not only that, something iconic.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, man, that was that was That's That's one of
the ones.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'll say this the dis session tell them with the
song is talking about Beyonce is irreplaceable.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's uh. Yeah, I'm still eating set and I still
ain't spent all that.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Still ain't to different, But I'm used to going in
the studio and having to kind of kind of hold
artist's hands, so to speak. You know what I'm saying,
Like I hear the next note, I hear's the next part?

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Do this that part? Man, I ain't never felt so
useless in my damn life. Work gonna be. She ain't
need me for nothing. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna
get coffee.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
You got it. She got it? She did not that song.
I didn't about an hour by myself like I wasn't needed.
I wasn't needed, but but I was mad at got.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Country vibes to it it. Dude.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
I kind of wrote it like like a country song
because when I first wrote it, there was no drums on.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
It was just the guitar part. So I kind of
wrote it like kind of like a country song because
I've always I've always appreciated country music because it's like
it's storytelling, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
It's like you.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Got to be clever with the lyric and country music.
So I always always had an appreciation for that. That's
that's kind of why I'm doing the album that I'm doing,
uh country again, country inspired. I don't feel like I
can call it a country album in that I'm not
a full fledged country artist, Like I feel like that's disrespectful.
The cast has been doing that for years and then
here I come on some Yeah I'm doing the country.
I'm like, nah, it's inspired by all the things that

(03:20):
I love about country music. Yeah, coming soon, coming from
real quick, real quick. I don't I don't walk to
nobody house without a gift.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Damn, we ain't gotten to do that. Me being here,
me being here, y'all having me here is the gift.
I appreciate that, shouts to my man Vaughn Smith. The
name of the headline is circle. We just got so
we got some burrows because you got no no guys,

(03:47):
Oh that's all right.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, man as Circa is the name of the liance.
My man, my man Vaughn and this part of the
put that thing together. So yeah, just appreciation for having
me on.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Appreciate you. Oh you see the mixed way the color,
that's what that's.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
For fans who think we're really gonna win like that,
like you if you think the Knick's gonna win this
ship like ya.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
A little wave, you know. I appreciated that a fire
appreciate y'all.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Don't get nothing, really, and we don't get nothing nothing
for Father's Day.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
We don't get shipped for the not even the firs socks.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
What does a guy who has four wives four girls
do you receive a gift on Father's Day or birthday?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I get gifts from my kids on Father's Day and
that's enough.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
I don't necessarily today, we just don't. I don't need
nothing we get birking bags.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Or type of ship. We get socks. I don't even
get that. But I don't see. I'm also I don't need.
I don't need a gift and socks, not even a
good tube shock.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
My father man loud across the floor. My father last say,
eighty nine years, he had the same complaint every year, Yo,
I don't get ship. I gotta buy flowers chocolates. This
my father like, yo, I ain't getting shipped. Why we
can't get shipped.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
But but see in my household, I don't have to
lift a finger. I don't gotta cook, I don't gotta clean.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I don't got it.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
I don't gotta do much of nothing in my house
because from between my kids and.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
My women, and I don't. I don't like, I don't need.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I'll say, like they said, throw like ice cream on
the floor. You can eat that ship off the floor
for spotless. That shit is like a drift through. Drive
through that ship like the ship. You know, to sit
there all they be marbalizing the offices and sit that
shit gotta be.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Crystal clear now absolutely Now, I'm good. I need I
don't need gifts every day.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
It's gifts in my I get it now me I'm
not gonna lie to you like these hats, I swear
to you, I'm gonna wear it, and I truly appreciate
it because I don't get shipped. I'm being honest with you.
I don't get shipped. I don't fat Joe, don't get ship.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I'm being that you gotta get money. Yeah, yeah, I'm
just chilling. Man.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
We having having a nice conversation. Man, Man, it's my god.
He's a the bag. You talking about the bag. He's
a very given person. I shot a video on the
level he had these Louise on him, like yo, I
like them. He send somebody and brought him with the
old I like them trick.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Huh No, I wasn't. He did fool trick. Huh. I
didn't even know him. Rick did the old I like
him trick? He was?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
He was really with this guy, right, I had dinner
with this guy. Man, he's a gambling expert. What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
You hit him with the old? I like he just did.
Now he hit me with the OOFTI wati.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I had these newis glass and shipping like five thousand
some fly ship.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Every bide of the dinner.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
He was like, man, the class really every bike and
it just kept and I'm from the thing like, if
you compliment too much now, it's almost like the mirror's
gonna crack.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Like I'm like, yo, give it to it's gonna be
that blood.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I said, these glasses, you get like ten fucking time
to say, Yo, here go brother, take him man and
enjoy the glasses. It's not a problem this. I never
found them glasses again. Vegas Dave hustled me for my ship, Yo,
Vegas Dave sending the glasses back. Vegas Daves might send
him back.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
It works sometime. Thank you. Being the generous god.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I'm always be that, always be there. I feel like
you gotta be a blessing to receive a blessing.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
By the way, call is funning me when we did
the caller joining and I kept saying, can I get
a loan? That motherfucker never hands James Brown, Peter King
of the Spin I just watched that episode said this
said a whole lot of nothing. Now, motherfucker like the
dragon from Grain of Thrones without the fire coming out
of his mind. I'm like, huh, I'm looking at that

(07:54):
shit because I got drunk. I fucked up. I got
drunk with him, and I don't drink, and so it
took me to see the ship to notice that I
got fun like, I'm fucking I'm like one of them
lot new dolls.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
What's upthing, loop fellow ship. I was a little I'm
fucking out it. I was feeling a little nice.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
But when you asked him that, he took us all
the way around Roward.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
He took us.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
He was trying to get the man on record to say, Yo, Joe,
I don't need a long I just try to get
him on record. He ain't go for it. He spun
me to death. But yo, neo man, you got a
country album. You know, everything you do is incredible. You
know everything last show I had with you, we was
in uh what the Kyman Knowledge? And I felt like,

(08:40):
you know what I'm saying. I was I was watching perform.
I was like, and you're also my wife's favorite singer,
respect right. You know, my mom's and pops had just
passed away around the time we were supposed to do
our birthday. You said you would do it. Jesz's her
favorite rapper. He was coming to but and that she
just went to see Jez but he ain't the.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Song with me, y'all. She was pissed the joint y'all
got together. She was like, yo, he ain't doing my song.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
He said, yeah, that ship like that.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
How many times you do a show and they say
you ain't do their song?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Man, everybody's all with every kid, every reason here, somebody
why he didn't do this song that you never do?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Mind you? It wasn't a single. The fourth album cut
like this is my favorite joint white wait man. Listen,
did you enjoy the show? All right? Leave me alone? Man,
go on, it's a lot, It's a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
One of last show with him, he was in Jamaica.
Remember something after you. I had to save the day
for you. He as much DJ. We was out there
for some It was one of the fesces with a
bunch of Jamaican and all this and that, Me and
you and Buster was supposed to be there. Let me
catch he was in that my Tigo Bay or somewhere

(09:55):
the cakes. He was somewhere and they like, yo, he
is being Something happened? Could he say, yeah, he can
rock with me. That's how we got the technician Jamaicing technician.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, he used tech. You know when I double tipped
them on tech. He wont his fucking fist.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
He said, hey, you know what when you went to
pay him listen text Jamaican.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
So he was living a life out there. He had
the chefs, the maids, he was eating seven millis in
the Motherland. He was chilling.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
I just went I just came back from Puerto Rico.
I went to the Bad Bunny concert. Did you feel
like Colt like what?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
No? No, No, it was it was fino. You know
what I'm saying, I don't see I needed you. I
need the same.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
No, it was what you want me to say. I'm
not gonna do what callous say. It was an incredible show,
super talented. The fucking aesthetics was crazy, the vibe and
when we landed on the plane, it no, the party
was like welcome to Bad Buddy, and the whole plane
went crazy. Man, I never like that whole island. I

(11:07):
heard he generated like seven hundred million for the island
and the whole theme of the show is based on
like gentrification of Puerto Rico, that grandmothers are selling their
cribs and you know, and so he he brought all
that money back to the economy. It was really incredible. Well,
you know, I've been drinking a lot, Lady, I drinking

(11:28):
that motherfucker too.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I was saucy. I technically was s time. It's nice.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
All yeah, I want to ship, you know, I got
to like y'all get that water. You already know you
got it. But incredible, phenomenal show. One of the greatest
shows I've ever seen in my life. And then the
next day I snuck into that biann mcnight. When's the
last time you've seen bim Night before? Seeing that man

(11:53):
in a wild He was in Puerto Rico. Nah, I
was in Jersey. You see, I snuck into Inglewood Theater
on the low. Well you shot back right at the
right back seeing Brian McKnight, he was like any time
reaching now for me, I would have loved this, see it, yo,

(12:13):
This guy like, wait, kowit's been at it.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
But the only art that I've seen, the only artist
I've seen vocally sing like that in years, was like
Luther Vandews. This guy really scary. Sneaking the h next
time you he's in the city, you were just sneaking,
sitting in the back, You're gonna be like, yo, this
guy is fucking he caught a body on Broadway. This

(12:37):
guy Brian mcno Rightman, I grew up on Brian mknight,
Brian m knight, Boys and Man, that was that was
kind of the era of music that I like, really
started taking music series.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I wanted to be Wayanney Morris. I want to be
in the group. You know, it's crazy. I'm watching Brian
McKnight the whole time.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
I'm saying, Yo, this guy could have been in fucking
Boys Cement. The whole show I'm watching, I'm thinking, you know,
my music or whatever, you know, how we it's tapping
my brain. I'm like, Yo, this guy could have been
a fucking fourth member of Boys Samanda easily.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Like I said, the era when it was a little
bit older than Boys.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, but what I'm saying is vocally, vocally and aesthetically,
this guy could have been in Boys to Men.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
They did.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
They did one joint together. It was a Christmas joint.
Let us know whatever. Let yeah, that's gu's the only.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Joint they ever did together. But that was a joint. Still,
that's crazy. Who do you think you line up with?

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Like if I just went to Neo radio, who whatever
artist would they play on a radio?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's a good question. Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I don't know, not saying that I'm on some level
that's above anybody else. They gonna play some Michael Jackson
on there.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
I mean definitely, so I definitely play my inspirations absolutely.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, Mike Prince, you know what I'm saying. I grew
up in Vegas, so like the rat Pack was a major,
major thing for me. So like you might hear, you
might hear some old Sainty Davis Jr. And that thing
something like that. But he had an era where I
like really started taking music. Series was Voyeman, Brian McKnight,
uh Joasy before you know, Drew Hill, and I was

(14:15):
like that whole I really started, uh like really started
looking at like I.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Could do this for a living. It was able to
meet m J.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, man, Mike, it was. It was weird. It was cool,
but it was weird because it's like, so mind you
when I first, when I when I first, when they
first set up the meeting, my assistant was supposed to
call me before Mike called me to let me know
the Mike that he that somebody gave Mike my number
he was gonna call me, but Mike actually called me first.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
So when I picked up the phone, we're doing that
and it's Michael Jackson.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
I hung up immediately because I thought somebody happened to
me four times today.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
The bank kept calling from a five to five. I'm like, yo,
I'm next to my wife the bits key saying.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Hi, this is Johnna. I'm like, yo, are we calling
this off to the phone right now? I don't even
know mishaps. It's me from TD Bank. I'm like, well,
why you ain't say that? Ship you call it from
a five five? Lead you with your first name? Hold
on mom?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
No, no, no, not doing that. Who's that? Don't know
what happened?

Speaker 1 (15:19):
So I hung up and then my assistant called me like, yo,
are you sitting down young now? Michael Jackson about to
call you in ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I'm like, nigga.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Michael Jackson called me ten minutes ago, and I hung
him in his face. You almost fired? You almost fired.
You wanted to die that you hung up on Michael Jackson.
Oh my god, that's that's so anyway, So we got
back on the phone, did you Johnson?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
No? I lied right away. I lied.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I'm like, yeah, it was. It was a bad reception, bro.
I was dropping under the bridge and the joint just dropped.
He sounded like Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
He sounded like, Hey, how you doing, I'm good. Who
was this? It's Michael, Michael, Michael Jackson. A cool click nah.
And then when you spoke, have Michael Jackson got my
phone on Michael Jackson? Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
So first I didn't know Michael was tall. Michael was
like six two sixty three.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I didn't know that either. Maybe maybe he was tall
in my head. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
When he walked in the room, the nigga was ten
feet tall. When he walked, he had on a black suit.
He had av the sunglasses that was mirrored that he
didn't take off the whole time.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
He was there for like an hour.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
He did not take the glasses off the whole time.
And we sat we talked about music. When he first
walked in the room, he said, Oh my god, you
know what my favorite song of yours is? And I'm like,
favorite song of mine? You know that that's my favorite
song of mine?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
That's nuts. It was nuts. It was nuts. But what
was his favorite song? With your go on girl? He's
on where every about me?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm fine that joint and he sang it and I
turned into a twelve year old girl instantly.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
I kept it in though I kept it gene like.
That's that's the no, no, no crab man. You know Michael Jackson.
I probably he's one of the rugs. Michael Jackson walked
in there. I was gonna ask him, did he dropped
his flat? You're I say they say Michael was an
m was a gang member. I don't know if he
dropped his flag before he met you or not.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
He kept right. You know, some people.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Say I've heard that Michael Jackson was say Michael from
the sixties, right, you want to say it was a
gang member? No another flag?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I need proof. It's a picture floating around him doing something. Yes,
I've seen it. I said, let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
I would have cried if I would have met Michael Jackson.
He's the one guy would have cried like I just
I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's like he was.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
From out of an another world. He was other like people.
That's my favorite rapper fact. Joe Mother is different. You
see Michael Jackson. Man, listen, you want to die? You
said crying from Michael Jackson and can't Nobody even make
fun of you.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
It's like, it's Michael Jackson. How you don't like I
kept I can't change your life? You crying for the mic?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
The only reason I did because I felt like, all right,
he probably get this all the time.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Let me let me try to try to ship my composure.
But it was cool. We sat, talked about music.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
We we actually started working on some stuff that he
was supposed to record after the the This is It
tour was o but you know, he passed before we
got a chance to do it. So talk about Prince
Prince Man. So Prince saved my life and he.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Don't really he don't realize wow.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
But uh so after You're the Gentleman was like my
best my best selling album. One Grammys for that album,
and then right after that we did Leaver Scale Right,
Lever Scale. I just got off of I did like
two movies, so I kind of had the movie bug.
So I went to the label like, yo, so I
want to do like a thirty minute mini movie and
like let the album be the soundtrack to the movie.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
They was like, oh, yeah, that's dope. That's dope. Who's
gonna write the script? I got it. I take care
of it. I don't know about writing scripts. I'm not
to write a song on all right, script, So they
like I had thirty minutes. Sorry, cool, So I bring
in the script.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
So in the world of writing scripts, a page it
craze to a minute, So thirty pages is thirty minutes.
My script had one hundred and forty five pages, yes,
and it was like nothing many about him. Nah, this
ain't gonna work, so I had to bust it down
to thirty right. Basically, long story short, the album came out,
it was kind of all over the place. The story
was weird, like people didn't get it. The album didn't

(19:11):
do well at all, right, So I was kind of
down because like we had just came off the high
of Year the Gentleman, and then it was like like
the shit we went double Glass. Anyway, so that year
we got invited to Princes's Grammy party.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
He was store a Grammy party.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
So we go to the party and mind you, I'm
in there and I'm excited because we had Princess joining,
but at the saint time, I'm like bummed out because.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Like, man, I'm not doing well. It recently had just
dropped the album.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
We had just dropped the album. The album came out,
didn't do didn't do the numbers, you know what I'm saying.
The singles was kind of moving, but not really like
it was.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
It was. It was. It was a bad way. It's
a bad way.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
So we go to the party and we're standing there
and like, I'm there, but I'm not there, Prince. It's
in a pool house at Princess House, so like everybody's
standing on top of the pool. It was like a
plexiglass ship on top of the pool and everybody's partying
on the pool. He's in the corner with his band's jamming, right,
they just playing whatever. He sees me, puts his guitar down,
b lines through the crowd straight to me. It comes

(20:08):
on to me and says, labor Skill is a good album.
Don't let nobody take you different and walked on. And
from that moment I was like, you know what, I
don't give a damn what the critics say. I don't
care what nobody say. Prince said is good. It's good.
I'm good and I and like it restored my desire.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
I did me with it. I was like, man, I
was messed up behind him.

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Speaker 2 (23:08):
Now I say I cut people off, so I let
you get the Prince story.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
You off, But how did the label act with you
when it went double blacks?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know how that thing goes? I'm asking dog.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
They there for all the celebration when things go well
and when things go.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Bad, as your fuck. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
You know. I had the album win double platinum, tell
us one still with. They had a fucking picture of
me six stories high in Atlantic Rects. The fucking picture
was six stories hot. I'm cutting They swapped it out
for TI.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I'm not going there.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
What I'm going is they gassed me to put out
an album and Christmas time when Mariah carried jay Z,
miss Elliot at this.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
This, but it's doing you in the traffic with or
Lamb McGee. You forgast me and I'm over here.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I'm over here telling them, yo, this is a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
This is at this. I don't think you think we're
gonna sell like Missy.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
We're gonna sell like Jayson you're the big guy fourth
quarter this that I didn't know that back then they
were getting paid on the ship. So if your last
album sold two million, they shipped two million, they get
paid the ready. So whether you sell ten records or twenty,
like that album that went Double Glass, they made their money.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, they shipped that a million dollars. They always make
their money. They always make their money.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
So my point is when the ship flopped, maybe like
a month later, the guy who insisted and gassed me,
I'll say it, Craig content gasped me.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Guy dropped that album.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
I saw him at like the MTV Music Awards, and
I was.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Like, yo, hey, Craig, and the man in real life got.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Up, looked at me, and ran away from me like
I had as a he tried.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
V I was like, yo, Breg.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
He was like, motherfucker, got up at it like and
I realized at that point.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I see, Yo, these people don't give a fuck.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Now it's the same guy I'm sitting on his couch
telling him, Yo, let's not drop, Let's not this.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
You know.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
You know, as soon as that album flopped, t I
posted went up shit crazy man. So that's why I'm
asking that's how I go. No, you know what I had,
that's crazy. I had caught up the bigges come like
cause like, so Jay's crazy. This is right when Jay
had became president over there. So it was Jay and Tai.
That's pretty much. Yet through the whole recording of.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Pretty much All My Ship, and like Tata is one
of them niggas that just he can't not keep it real.
So like he like Tata was a nigga that told me.
He was like, Yo, I need to understand. Nobody in
the building believes that you're gonna do anything.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
I just need you to know that. I need you
understand that with that album.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Now we're our first album before the first album came out,
like they signed me and I I want to believe
they signed me as a tax right off, because they didn't.
They didn't think because he came to he was like, listen,
I'm gonna let you know now. You know, sitting around
with all the A and rs, nobody really you ain't
got too many people in your corn.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I'm just let you know that.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
And I'm like, I couldn't do nothing but appreciate the
fact that he kept that rid shut up the time.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well who are the rs. So my thing, I got
a different type of like you let him finish, he
just finished. It was this thort that was you finished.
Yeah I did, I did, I did get he finished
that there.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
I've been very patient, Yo, patiently, I've been very patient.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
No.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I What I was saying was I have I had
one or two folks in the building that was actually
ryding for me, whether we won or lost.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Like like Tie and Jay, they was they was. They
was good to me.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
You know what I'm saying, even if it was a
winner or lose, even to the deliver scas situation, that
was like, we'll get them next time.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
They like they was, they was damn sure, damn straight exactly,
it was good. My thing is who the fuck is
the A and R guys?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Right? You know them? Who? I don't know them?

Speaker 4 (27:14):
So you come in there, you create, you tell your
life story, you make hit records, and they get credit.
I never liked that ship, man, I mean, I fucking
never like that ship. Every time a fucking artist comes
out saying Lizo or somebody Cardi B or whoever's a sensation,

(27:35):
some guy comes stand next to them and takes the
credit with them at the Grammys that they don't even
fucking know it. They never even talk to they never
even sawt them. They never nothing, no recommendation, nothing staying
up there like they did some ship. I never like
that ship. Ever, somebody else taking credit beat up a knowledge. No,

(27:56):
I don't want to beat up nobody. I don't want
to beat up nobody, right, But what I'm trying to
tell you is I really want to know when they
and R Baby briefed two big beats.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Well, how you're gonna start finding? No, no, no, no, wait,
A lot of good for the gate. A lot of
them is fucked up, but it's some good ones.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
I never had it. Hell, it's you.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
I was my an r my first four albums. If
somebody came and says she was a model for the
year they bought.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
That beat, No, I mean did bring me the Virginia
the for real? He didn't write that's my fucking word.
But he took me to meet for real. So that's
the get the wrong he introduced you to. I tell
you like this, The Beyonce record might not have happened
if not for Tati. It might not have happened because

(28:46):
I didn't write that record originally for Beyonce. There's a
bunch of record that went on Rihanna's album that I
didn't write for Rihanna.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
But because Tata was always there, Like every time I
was in the studio, he was it.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I mean with they set up like like four days
for Britney Spearsualan, Right, yeah, she's gonna come in and
whatever whatever. She never showed four they she never showed.
But every song that I wrote for her, I was there.
He's like, yo, let me get a copy of that.
And then two weeks later he's like, oh, yeah, we
gave that to Rihanna. Yeah, we get it to Beyonce. Yeah,
we get that to this one whatever. So like he
was like, that was great.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'm not I'm not people about Tata specifically.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I'm talking about the world of A and R's a
lot of these guys don't do shit, and they got
too much to say about what the single is.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
How they know this.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
You know how many times we've seen the artists come
out pure talent and blow up and then all of
a sudden, the A and R try to start telling
them what to do, what should they shoot or how
they should look cause this throw away, this this ship
My first deal is when I when I had my
experience with kind of crappy A and RS like, so

(29:48):
I got signed to Columbia.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
That was my first my first record. God like you right,
you're so fucking talent. Imagine now we know the story.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Now twenty years in your fucking super producer, super mega
start this this that you starting the game. You got
all this fucking talent. You know, God gave you all
this talent. There's somebody trying to direct you and tell
you what it is with and you sitting here looking
at him like is this shit crazy? But I was
dreen though I ain't know no better. I was just

(30:18):
happy to have a deal. So like whatever they was
telling me to do, who I did it?

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Like, nah, I don't write through thieves cats right with
these cats now, I don't wear that where it is
type shit. So like we finished the album for Columbia
and I'm looking at the shit and I'm like, I
don't I don't recognize the nigg on the cover, I
don't recognize the music, Like this ain't me. This is
this is who they wanted to Like they try to
turn me into like baby Tyresha somebody, right, So I
went back into the label, like, yo, is it coolest?

(30:43):
Maybe I go in and you know, cut one or
two more records that kind of kind of fit who
I am. And they was like, well, I mean we
would let you, but your budget is depleted. And I'm like,
at the moment, at that time, that was the most
money I ever had in life, so I knew where
the money was going. I'm like, nah, this much studio
time costs this, this costs that we should have at
least this left.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
That's when I learned that every time they cast the
flies to New York and take us to mister Childs
and throw.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
That credit card down, yeah, how about you flying him? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, how you trying them whenever they swiped that card.
That's that's that was my budget and I didn't know,
and of course they're not gonna tell you. So yeah,
that was That was my first experience with A and R.
It just was on the take listen when you from
listening to you, he ain't listen for me listening to you,
it sounds like a lot of the songs you wrote
for people, you didn't write for people.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
They happened to you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
it happens like that a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Donestly, like you know, it's it's you give somebody first
write a refusal and if they don't, if they don't
see it, they don't see it all right, But that
don't mean the song is whack.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
I don't mean you can't use it. So it'll go somewhere,
see now. But they fucking j Lo wrote that.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Uh well, at least half, that's what Faith said on
the interview, and uh you it was j Loo's song.
She passed on it and Faith kept it and that
ship turned into a funck there. It was one of
my favorite fi is hitting the world that ship. I mean,
that's that's how that ship goes, especially for songwriting. You know,

(32:14):
you don't know what the good thing that Tata did.
He had your best interest because you need somebody.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
In there.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Passing it off, like Yo, this is mad. You know
I did that, right, yo, yo, yo yo, you already
said I did that. The album did Usher.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
I'm gonna give you two the album that Usher did
with Rico Love a lot of and Rico super producer
a lot of them songs I was in the studio
with and Usher wasn't sure. He was like, yo, I
don't know this this and I'm like, yo, bro, this
guy's the hottest guy in the game. I did the
same thing with Kelly Rowland with the Joint that we

(32:55):
co wrote for, because at the time she had like
an ed M so on that she was about to
go all the.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Way over there.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
She was like, I'm going eatim like, and I'm like, yo,
you know, you know you that's this child like you know,
the hit was right, it was so much of a hit.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
I was like, Yo, this you crazy if you're not
cutting this this this is a smash hit, you know.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
And sometimes people want to get a little outside voice
to say, all right, man, maybe I should fuck with it,
and they fuck with it.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
You know this.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
You know.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
It's certain hits that I did that I ain't like
because to me, they were like sell out hits, Like
I just knew it was going to be a hit
like that. You know, when you manufactory hit. There's a
way to manufacture a hit, to be like a formula.
This is the sound, This is the formula. Get the
homie on the hook, get this and it's a hit.

(33:51):
And I never liked it because like I was cheating
the system label way. I never forget the game to
see me. They was like, yo, you need Americans. Then
the instructions of it byther do it pretty much step one,
step two. But you feel you feel like you cheated
the game. I mean me, I mean thank god I
still make money to this day off of it. But

(34:11):
I felt like I cheated the game when when when
I did, when I did something, that ship wasn't number
one too. So you have an here billboard.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
You have it.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
You can hear when something is going to be like
the one. Now let's go back to Craig count. The
only real shit he ever said to me was he said,
you're not beyoncet. We said, if you put out The
only real shit he ever said to me was you
not Beyonce. If your song doesn't do good is in

(34:43):
the next song. It's crazy because you got that fucking
hat off. I remember I walked in that land. I
told Atlantic, I fucking up the whole office. I walked
in there, all five thousand employees was out the building.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
That shit was like some boiez this.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
I said, I'm going in there because they didn't want
to shoot that video. And then I got up to
that terror squad. Fact I'm beating everybody up in the
office five o'clock. I'm walking in That shit was a
ghost OUMP. Only one guy stood there. Man recipe is
Rodney Johnson. Man he's tried to explain it to me, said, Joe,
we told you that if the record don't do good,

(35:20):
you can't do it ying. So basically they were like, yo,
look you got one shot. If it hits, you get
another one. So I had to almost train my ears
like I was a programmed director to know what they
would play on a Sunday in South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
And I knew I would play.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
These songs and be like Joe, they'll play this shit
in South Carolina or Arizona. So I had to train myself,
and I knew if I didn't, if it wasn't a hit,
I'm fucked.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
So that's a skill in itself, Like I don't have that,
Like I'll be so close to the music that I
can't hear the one shot to my man, Tango Tango
is my manager, been my manager for twenty years. When
I first met this nigga, he ain't have a radio
in his car talking about I'm gon manage your music career.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Niggy, don't even listen to music. He's like, no, no, no, no, no,
I don't know music. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
He broudut us and I know people, and I'm like
I and to this day, every single that I've had
that went tangle was like, it's this one and mind
it'll be shipped like like nigg.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I spent five days on this record. This one I
did in like twenty minutes. He was like, bruh, it's
that one, and sure Closer. I did not believe in Closer.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I didn't think the Closer was for me. I literally
wrote it, sell it. It was Tango and jay Z
that was like, YO, keep that ship, trust me, keep it.
We put the joint out for the first three months nothing.
Nobody gave a fuck it. They didn't get it to
the point where we went to the lake. We went
to the lab where La re called.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Us saying on some YO, I think it's time to
switch singles.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Before I walked into LA office, Jay was like, yo,
Elli about to tell you get off that record.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Do not get off that record.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
But even I was like, br this it ain't working man,
Why would we eat? Like YO, trust me, stay on
that record, all right? So we still on the record.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
We did the BT Awards that year after that performance.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Man, we never looked back. I don't but I don't
have everybody what's the what's the recipe for a hit?
I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
I'm gonna get in the studio and do it feel
good to me and then hand it off to the
folks that had that ear like that, because I don't
got that, Like, don't let me pick the thing's crazy reasy,
you can't you got I don't know what. I can't
pick the it's what feels. I go off of what
feels good to me, you know what I'm saying. That's
that's as far as I can take it. I don't
know this audience is gonna do this and that on that.

(37:34):
That's that's a whole other skill set that I just
I don't do that part.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Don't do that part.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
I'm gonna go in, I'm gonna cut the record, and
then I'm gonna pass it off to the person and
goes a yeah, this is for this market.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
That's for that market. Like, realize, my job make to
sell records. My job is to make music.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
So I'm gonna make the music and then give it
to the person whose job at it record. That's that's
that's how I work.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Fifteen Grammy nominations, three Grammy wins that.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Feel it feels good, but at the same time state
digit Grammys.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
So it's like I got more work. Also, you know
Stevie you brought up with that Teve Wonder. Stevie Wonder
is the last American they.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Got no Grammy's dude, there's a lot of people with no,
I ain't got no Grammys trying to get that's it.
That's the ship. You your mass your man pou like
on it. Yeah, I ain't got ship. But what you
should say? He said he's mad at three.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
I said, I ain't mad at I got mixed feelings
at that. I got mixed feelings about the Grammys. Yeah,
it would be great to have a Grammy.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Uh, I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
When someone dies, they immediately Grammy nominated a Grammy. What
what makes Grammy?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Holy? Your thanou?

Speaker 6 (38:55):
Like?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
What makes that word Grammy?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Like any artist dies from any genre to go Grammy
winner Grammy?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
That what what is it? What?

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Like?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Who are they? Because they get it wrong all the time,
Like you think, what what song you you had.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
I can tell you mins what song you had that
that you lost, That you lost the Grammy that you
knew for a fact you.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Should have want.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Oh, come on me and Pitt Bull Time of our life. No, no, no,
not that time Allied Give me everything, Give me Everything
was the song of six Summers. And because we didn't
turn it in on time, we didn't get we wasn't
eligible for the grammar.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
How crazy is that? Shit isn't that?

Speaker 4 (39:35):
I just did a song show with Pitt two days
ago and they had people with board heads in the
fucking crowd.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I thought it was attack of the Aliens. That's like
his merchandise. Oh yeah, year you buy some shit right
and they look like fucking aliens.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I say, y'all too far from home for the aliens
to attack Presno, California. I gotta be in the Bronze
shooting ship up. I can't beat out there. They're gonna
turn me into the Vota Loco ship. I was like, Yo,
I'm too far from all for all these alien motherfuckers
in the crowd like that ship.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
But merchants bull heads bad that you put over your
head like the skull, like the scull. You're like the
sleek stats and ship like that, your ship all the
way like it's weird you made yo.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
When you become a Halloween costume, that's when you know
you made it. Man, every Halloween I'm Mozepic. I don't know,
but the crowd ain't Halloween. I'm Oh Zeppich every Halloween.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Oh you put the box on, you put you got
the soul.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Zippy. Every year, I'm Joe Zeppek. I'm battling fuck you
know you're you're talking about country. I'm battling your jelly
row skinny.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Like a motherfucker.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
Man.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Look you seen jelly bro lately, fucking sex symbol. He
up there, he's taking my slot right now.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Paus pause. Oh shit, he was just recently on Constant
nots my field. Yeah, man, what was that experience? Like
the young jeez? I mean, I felt like the old nigga.
I really did. It was. It was catching that it

(41:18):
literally did not know who I was.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
I had I had a T shirt on with with
Neo on the T shirt, not me but Neo from
the movie that Makes Nature, and the nigga didn't know
who that was.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I'm like, yo, onld you what was in there? He
was like he was like fifteen sixteen, I'm like, god,
he all right, But it was cool.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
It was cool because Kai is like, uh, like you
could you could tell he got like, dude got a
marketing and business mind, real like he's serious with that.
But it was a cool situation like I've done, you know,
to sit down on the couch in the studio audience
and all of that, and you know it's all organizing ship.
But in there it's like whatever he thinks he gonna

(41:56):
say it, whatever the little niggas behind him think they
gonna just say it.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
And that's just and what That's what people are not understanding.
People from our era are not understanding.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Now.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
These young kids don't give a fuck about you and
ig with your feelter, with your this. They don't want
the fake shit they want to fuck up in front
of them all a stream. They want to see if
it's real or not, if you this and this and that,
all that fake shit that you could stage ship and
ship like.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
That, that's no longer.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
The motherfucker took Homeboy, the world's fastest man that nigga had,
He had movies with him chasing gorillas and fucking shit
that your meg on what speed blewis fucking ankles off
in front of every They don't want to face shit,
no minds.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
They're not going for the fake shit. These young kids,
they want to all right, you could do it, you
could do it. Yeah, hey, if you didn't do it,
nice trip. But we know the real shit. That's what
the stream ship is all about.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
But I'll tell you one thing about Constant. They all young,
but they all know to book Leo give a Dashian.
All the people of our age group is on there,
Kevin hart snoop. They're not fucking dumb. They know who
got the real fans that tune in so they could
play all that young ship. But they all tapping into

(43:13):
that culture too, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
So don't think we ain't there there straight up. No,
it is your boy kids, Joe crack. Check it out.
We got a Patreon.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
You can get exclusive clips, you can get early access
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Speaker 2 (43:45):
You know that they're right now because it's free.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
You're giving you the first onep of prier that that
is going to be a little difficult over there right now,
Joe and Jada Patrion.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Let's get wild wild Western beauties, Jo Neo, I gotta
keep it real with you, right because lately being there
we're podcasters.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Now it's crazy because.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
All the artists, not you, but all the artists seem
to come in here and don't want to talk about
what everybody want to hear them talk about out there.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
You got four wives, what kind of pressure do you buy?
Is it like Muslim? Do you gotta buy the same
bag for the same Like you know what mine is mine?
You definitely gotta have a bag that have four wives
you have?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I mean what Okay, it's there's a mindset that the
woman has to have in order to be able to share. Man,
you know what I'm saying, Like it's literally gota she
literally gotta think a different way. If you got four
women that want breaking bags, you got the wrong for it.
So they got a different mentality. It's it's it's community's family.

(45:02):
It's it's like everybody doing something. It's like it's like
a village where everybody do something. Everybody got a job.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
If you're the only person taking care of everything you do,
that's not how supposed to go. Everybody's supposed to kind
of pitch in together, like I have seven kids on
my own, you know, one of them got a daughter.
Of them got two kids. And it's like, okay, so
I don't have seven kids. I got nine kids. And
that's fine because we all come together like this one's
washing dishes, this one changing diapers.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
If it need be, this one doing that. Everybody does
you think it's a traditional way? Yeah, I gotta did
you have to do how did you? How did you?
Did you have to do an interview? How the hell
did you know? How did you do this? I just
what's you on tour? Just like all right, she could
be part of the family. She could be like how

(45:50):
did you do it? And how did you do it?
Full time? So okay.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
So after my after my divorce you my very public,
very ugly divorce, I realized that just through being dishonest,
I heard a lot of people. I heard I heard
a lot of people, and I decided at that moment,
I don't never want to be a reason nobody should like.
So from that moment, I was like, I'm gonna just
keep it a buck with everybody about everything being good, bad, ugly, whatever,

(46:18):
I'm gonna keep it a buck. I don't ask me
if the dress make you look fat, if you don't
really want to hear the as handles, I'm gonna tell
you straight up right.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
So one of the ones that I'm been around a
little longer than the other ones.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
So I basically just set it down, like listen, if
you know I rock with you, we've been rocking for
for forever, do this through that we've been rocking.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I love you, I do, but it ain't just you.
I'm also rocking with this one and this one. So
nan could love more than one more than absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
I wanted to say your I'm throwing you out this
motherfucker you'll take Let them said the fucking question.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I say that full what you ain't got full? Walk?
I see somebody interrupt and didn't tell you you like
you can love more than you can love more than
one woman. This is the ship. Men won't say married.
Man won't not say that. This is this ship.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Men won't say they can't because because you got more.
So that's how it goes. What do we call that
in America?

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Like, it's it's polygamy.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
It's polyamory is they're not married, it's polygamy if you're married,
and polygamy is illegal in a lot of America, so
it's poly Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
A lot of there's a lot of pig horsepower.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
And listen, first of all, me, I'm abused. I'm appused,
like I'm lyrically abused. Some of my friends come to
the house. They fucking they gonna light candles for me,
like I'm sitting there like our Bundy God, and I'm like,
watch the TV. It's very hard to get me upset.

(47:52):
But for them doing that ship at the same time.
But he don't happen like that.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
It don't happen like that because I'm I'm very, very
very adamant about drawing the line of the saying. It's like, listen,
I'm gonna hear you out. I'm gonna let you say
what it is you need to say. But once we
started going here, you lost me anyway, so you might
as well.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
When I when I was thinking about asking you this question,
I'm thinking, so what you got like a giant bed,
like a big fucking giant the.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Last last king that's I need. That king is like
fuck me in the Alaskan King only to double together
like double king. I only think I heard of California
and something else. I heard it. I never heard of it.

(48:36):
Last heard of.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Joe fat Joe deserving the Alaskan King. Who fat Joe
deserves in the Alaskan King?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I guess you number because you can't buy an Alaska king.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
You gotta get made. You gotta you gotta get somebody
to make it. They gotta come in and build yourself.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
They're gonna build its like a giant bed. Yes, what
it's about, Comfortbud, You're an inspiration. Neil, I like it.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
We're gonna live vicarious sneak through you and hope it
works out. Everything is good, man, Everything is good again.
We we have problems, just like just like monogas relationships.
All that ship is real. You're gonna argue over stuff,
but again, at the end of the day, as long
as you are ahead of household and everybody understands that,
then arguments don't last on.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Like you know, I'm again, let you get it out
and let you say what you gotta say. I'm gonna
hear you. But once it's done, it's done. We're not good.
You think a broke man can have four women in
the alasking Uh?

Speaker 1 (49:40):
If you do it the right way, because again it's
not It's also listen, all women ain't going it's not
gonna worry not rocking with that certain behind a woman.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
She got it.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
She gotta have a certain mindset if she's gonna do it,
because if she do, if she's the kind of woman
again that she needs birthday and all this.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
What's your question? I got questions? How fall apart? Because
you know how you said you had one that was
with you for a while. How what was the different? No?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
No, no, How quick did it take to get the
other three on board? It wasn't It didn't take a
long time. I kind of set up at dinner. I
told I told the one that I want you to
meet I want you to meet the other ones. Initially
it was just three, So I told the one that
I wanted her to meet the other two. I set
up the door where the last one comes from. One.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
She she's one of my one of my dances. She's
the newest. Yeah, it's one of my dancers. So country inspired. Yes,
it's gonna have some country, but it's still gonna have
some of that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, I cannot be me, but it's it's like everything
that I love about country music mixed with what it
is that I normally do.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
And you've got the tour in the Vegas Residency Comyeah, yeah, man,
I'm proud of that. Grew up in Vegas, it's definitely.
And that's the high school in Vegas, the All nine.
So to be able to go back and do something
like that, that's I could live in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
You know, we got songs together. So when it gets
you know, she gave me a call, figure, you could
give me a call say less.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
No, come yo, I come with them? You want me
to do?

Speaker 4 (51:23):
I come with I'm attached. They think I bring Jata
kiss with me. I'm walking the wild wat seven of them?
Yo is Jada like yo, bro look at me like
like I'm in the PI. I'm in the win up
for something like what the fuck y'all think? He comes here?
It's included still.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Package steal.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
On kne y'all man, uh, Five of your favorite artists
of all time. And I'm gonna make it even easier
for you. I'm a say writers, no, no group groups?
Five groups, that's hard R and B. Let's go song
right five?

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Five? What you did you want? Let me get your
best five songs right? Just at least you know this
is a hard question.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
So Babyface, Uh, Smokey Robinson mm hmmm uh smoking is
writing all that ship? Jontay Austin, My God, je Monster,
the Dream Yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
And the fifth gotta go with Lina Richie. Yo, niggas
don't understand.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Well, niggas don't say he's a nigga nigga like before
you go with with that, because I love line of Richie.
But but I've had this argument with some real street
R and B singers that they don't rate him because
they feel like he was lollypop or something.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Now what do you think? Nah?

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Nah okay son undeath the Commodorees and then went over
into the like Lina Richard took Publisher of the Year
two years in a row, not a publishing company, Lionel
Richie by hisself, of that's an award that goes to
publishing companies.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Publisher look it up. Publisher of a Year Lina rich
twice twice. I love. I mean that man was putting
numbers on.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
But this argument with like people, you that's because he
didn't keep it R and B like he went R
and B, then he went pop.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Then he went country. He like, hello, if you got that,
you're supposed to do that you're looking for No, no, no, no,
no no. I love line of rich Man. You can't
do that far of the like hello me see you
know how this shit go hip hop R and B.
It's always a debate, of course.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
So I'm sitting down with some of the most respected
R and B singers of all time, and I'm surprised
when line come up they like, yeah, he ain't like
you know, I'm like, huh man, no fucking Richie Man.
Caps feel like, because you do one thing well, you're
supposed to stay there. And it's like, nah, what if
you do six things well? Like I'm not If I'm

(53:55):
giving the gift, I'm gonna use it. Like Lina, Richie
could write R and B, but he could also right pop.
You could also right country. He can do all that,
so why would he not do it? No, no, no, no,
I ain't walk.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
You can't front one. I know what he's at all.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
You name some serious ones smoking Robinson tell ship might
be my favorite songwriter. You know that's the that's the
weirdest one. Like we're cool with a lot of people,
but you know, I'm actually cool with Babyface. That that's
that's no. Don't throw the ship. He come to my

(54:30):
birthday party and singing at my birth Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
You're gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Don't throw that. Don't throw that. Don't throw that. You're
gonna look crazy out here. You look crazy with Joey Badass.
Now you say Babyface. I go to dinner with baby
Face all the time. He's my friend. This is what
I'm trying to tell you. He's one of the weirdest
relationships I have in my life. Diddy yet Oh there
go fu nigga call cat, I call cap on the cat.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Well you was dad? Did he? Yo? That's my guy?

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Like what do you He's the one? Oh yeah that
Joe Crack cannot believe I'm cool through this whole journey.
It's like, I sit down and have dinner with Babyface
and Babyface want to hear the stories capping.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Nah, baby Face is like, Yo, Joe, tell me some ship, Yo,
distance that they all do. You know what I'm saying.
They want that ship that sauce. Man. You know what
I man, Noah, I'm telling you the joy you want
me to do?

Speaker 4 (55:26):
I said, you see a little boosy the other day
on the interview. Oh, he said he a big fan
of our show. He said, I know Joe about to
stay some ship. You need him more, head man, we
need call us up man.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Right, Atlanta. If we're looking from the outside, then right,
we need to go to Atlanta? Is what I want
to go to? Atlanta? Can we go to Atlanta? Got
some new I love Atlanta? You got some new ventures.
You started a golf line.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Yeah, man, yeah, Olago Sport. So my man is the
tango talking about earlier? He been playing golf forever and
trying to get me out there. And I never, like,
I'm young, I don't play golf, Like the pants is weird,
I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
But he actually got me out there. One time we
went to uh, who is it? Uh Reggie Jackson's uh tournament? Right,
and mind REGGI jackson golf tournament is not a regular
golf tournament. Like every hole they're giving away, Jordan's fucking
like every hole is something different. So like I'm like,
is this what he's like? This ain't how golf normally is.

(56:23):
But yeah, so I fell in love with the game.
So I'm like, all right, listen, if I'm.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Gonna do this.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
I'm not wearing that ship. Bro, Like, these things look nuts.
Sorry they look nuts. Not doing so you got to
make your own he's He was like, all right, we'll
start of lying. So we got bags, we got we
got clothes and shoes, a whole nine. It's coming together next.
I'm gonna see how some stuff some stuff. Now, my
the nes did you know that?

Speaker 2 (56:48):
What hell is there? Reggie Jackson missed October. This Reggie
Jackson was the Spanish who changed his name to Reggie Jackson. Now,
my the nest google that ship. I ain't lying to you.
At the time, it wasn't cooler well as I was
a laugh his name was Reggie Jackson.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Would you better go ask Denzel Washington who told me
that's that? And now don't my deep ness? Okay, and
we got left. Reggie, I'm from the Bronx. That's Jackson.
Reggie Jackson did all that work in the Bronx. One
day I see him and I go, oh my god,
Reggie Jackson. I try to go, I get held back

(57:30):
by Denzel Washington. You see your Joe. Denzel Washington is like,
I don't think you should be running up to that guy.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I said, what do you mean? He said, that's where now,
my deep nass. He denounced the Latinos when he was winning.
He didn't want to save the Spanish. Wow. Wow, I
don't fucking know. I don't know. So is Reggie Jackson is?

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Oh? So think also think to Reggie Jackson's credit, I
also think I was in Houston at the fifty seven
weekend that basketball shit I was coaching. He confronted me
somehow you heard the story this think the first time
I say, somebody came in front of me, Yo, Trouble's up,
and I was say, yo's up, man, jack I think
he wanted to get into the conversation of that hand.

(58:20):
Mike denez we might need Reggie Jackson on this bitch
right here so he can explain to us.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
That the Oven niggas dead. Dak Martine, thats ain't in
all Jackson.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Reggie Jackson is in the Hall of fair fact and
now though ain't in the game right now that shit
crazy man, it really is, y'all knee on my brother man.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
We thank you man for coming man and did inspect
the album? Oh we got a little snippet or so,
I take that your country take beautiful. Let let's play
this song. What's it called? Simple thing? Oh shit?

Speaker 6 (59:16):
You put on that makeup in an hour, on your hair,
our heels in that red just with the slip right
up to there, and I don't mind what swetsing pony
telling smiles you It just fine.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I could do this country right here.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
You get in the kitchen, make a milk fit for
a kid, burn your hands and cut your fingers, just
a female girl, and I appreciate it. But how equally
breaks a sandwich that you made? You can search your
whole life, never to fighting with standing night in front
of you. It's always several things. The way you laugh,

(59:56):
the way you cry to your favorite song. It is
all there in between. The flowers you fight on the up,
you clown to keep them moving on, and nothing stop
chasing spring. Find out are really amazing. This is a
simple thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
It's always a simple crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Holy shit, thank you you have made me a country
music fan, Neil, you have made me a country music fan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
That was fucking amazing any genre right there. That ship
was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
I appreciate that, Appreciate that, appreciate the love crazy for
coming soon.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I thought, I think we're dropping this. We dropping this year.
I'm waiting a year, this year, next year, unaware there's
some railroad for the rest of the year. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
The win is the tour supposed to that ship. I
think the tours top of twenty twenty six. Yeah, I
think I meet me and Akon moving on with Akon. Yeah, Man,
that's that ship right there. You know I toured Africa
with a Kon. Africa with a Kon. All right, when

(01:01:19):
we get Akon it, we're gonna get him here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Kiss. I ain't say nothink.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
I'm prea no, no, I'm telling you I went on
tour in Africa with Akon. That ship was the idly
ship I ever seen in my life. No flags, Oh,
congratulations on Dallas. I had the whole stadium cursing amount
in the fucking rock.

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
We was in l a.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Me pit Bull, Little John and the Yin Yang twins,
and I had to he had a Dallas ship.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I had him shipping on him.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
I was like, this is a Dallas. He was a
good sport about. I was surprised Rich wasn't cursing the
whole fucking crowd.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Out your neo man. Uh, you're always with the met
over there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Yes, uh cool v man, my brother, man, you know
what what does it feel like being Tata's little brother?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Right, ladies, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold up here,
leave my man. God, so many years I thought he
was Tatah. You get that a lot. You know what
I'm saying. I got your listen so many years I

(01:02:29):
see then he realized, now I'm not. I'm not all
of them look exactly like, exactly like, you're not Twinter.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
The same. Well, anyway, brother, you got the right one
with you, brother, oh Neil, thank you for blessing the couch.
Like Kis says, there's always legends, but there's there's different
legends I'm noticing, and everybody's a legend. But you definitely
what you've brought to the world in terms of happiness,

(01:03:02):
because I gotta that that I'm a movement by myself, sir,
but I'm a full swim wad together. I mean, I'm
good old by myself or maybe you you make me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Better and you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Love that love? Just ain't that? Ain't this is cracking?

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Kiss giving up for new Yi think I guessed for
today Joe and Shaila.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I love you, man,