October 1, 2025 • 41 mins
Colin breaks down the New York Yankees’ Game 1 loss to the Boston Red Sox in the AL Wild Card and why poor clutch hitting — not bullpen decisions — sealed their fate
The Dodgers showed what will most likely end their season last night
Thoughts on the Browns benching Joe Flacco for rookie Dillon Gabriel and what this means for Shedeur Sanders
He also dives into the Philadelphia Eagles’ concerning offensive issues, explaining why their 4-0 record may be masking serious problems under the surface
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as well. The great thing Jmac and you used to
live out there, and so did I. When the Yankees
and the Red Sox meet, especially in the postseason, it
is second guest manager Tom And I'll say this about
the Yankee as an organization, They've been very patient. Cashman's
been there forever, Aaron boone in year eight, and everybody
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wants changes, but the Yankees, outside of one year a
couple of years ago, have been really perennially good. We're
waiting for great. This team's not gonna be great because
there are certain elements that they're just not very good at,
like their bullpen, and that was on display last night.
So here we go. Let's talk Yankees Red Sox Game one.
It's second guest the manager time, and Aaron Boone is
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a pinata to the pinstrifer fans. So he didn't start
Jazz Chisholm or Ben Rice. Oh well, it's a lefty,
righty thing, but that's gonna get second guests if you lose.
And he also pulled the pitcher Max Freed. It was
pretty good last night. And in the seventh inning, and
everybody's gonna freak out. You know, Ahmed Rosario starts over Chishlm.
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Why because he hits the Red Sox ace better Garrett Crochet.
That's why he started him. So they pull at about
one hundred pitches, they pull Max Freed. Everybody's kind of
freaking out. But let's be honest. He was at his
pack pitch limit. He'd labored in previous innings. He didn't
have great command at Aaron Booe knows more about that
than you or I do. So they go to Luke Weaver. Well,
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Luke Weaver has been up and down all year out
of the bullpen. That's the reality. And the Red Sox
have played great baseball at Yankee Stadium this year. They've
won six of eight, they won the season series. So
Luke Weave faltered. And this, this whole night, came down
to a couple high leverage situations. One of them was
Luke Weaver. He didn't get the job done, and that's
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the reality. The other was just historically weird. No teams
ever loaded the bases bottom of the ninth and not
scored a run at least one. But a Raldis Chapman, Yeah,
he throws one hundred miles an hour, strikes out John
Carlos Stanton, You're three hundred twenty five million dollar hitter
in a high leverage spot. The Red Sox were better
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in a clutch spot in the seven, and they got
a historically rare success with the Chapman in the ninth.
And that's the game, and that every baseball fan, especially
in New York, thinks they're a combination of about Earl Weaver,
Billy Martin, Connie mack In, Casey Stingle. Baseball playoffs, especially
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in the series, come down to moments, and one of
those moments is in the seventh inning, and you can say, wow,
Max Freed was really rolling. He had a twenty four
pitch inning, he had a twenty pitch inning, and again,
the Red Sox are a really good team. So my
take is Aaron Boone travels with a team, he knows
his team, and his take was he didn't have great
command a lot of pitches in these innings. I want
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to get out of here. But this whole game came
down to a seventh bullpen miss and a bottom of
the ninth Chapman overpowered Yankee hitters, and that's playoff baseball.
Here's Aaron Boone on his decision to pull Max Freed.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I felt like his command was, you know, not as
good those final few He's just making so many big
pitches and his stuff was good. So look, I mean,
he gave us, you know, what we needed and felt
really good about the outing he put forth. But I
felt pretty convicted, like, you know, especially we got the
double play. It's like, let's go get one more hitter
and be good.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And the other thing is so much of Major League
baseball managing these days is upstairs. A lot of it's
just numbers. Freed, was that a pitch count? And I
don't like that number. I mean, if you pitch one
hundred pitches, now, like that's as much as you're gonna pitch.
And so now, now the Dodgers are in a situation
we'll talk about them in a second. Their bullpen's so
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bad they're gonna blow through that. But the Yankees bullpen's
not that bad. It's not Dodger bad. Okay. So the
other thing is a lot of times it's like when
football coaches on fourth and one or fourth and two,
go for it. If you make it, you have courage.
I like him. This guy's tough's genius. And if it fails,
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guy's an idiot. How do you go forward on fourth
and two? So I don't like to do a lot
of post game Baseball is one hundred and sixty two
games long. You got twenty five two months in spring training.
These managers tend to know their staffs better than I do,
certainly better than the average fan does or media member.
So my take is it's like, okay, is it one
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hundred pitches twenty four pitch inning? Previously, he don't that
great command, I'm gonna make the move and Luke Weaver
Ben Spotty faltered. That's the game, all right, Let's go Dodgers.
So the Dodgers are favored over the Cincinnati Reps. I
mean the Dodgers payrolls three times that it'd be more
if you weren't pushing Otani's salary down the road. The
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reality is the Dodgers are gonna win this series. But
last night's a prime example of why they're not gonna
win win the World Series. They had an eight to
nothing lead and won ten to five. So here's how
it all started. First inning with show hey Otani.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The two one pitch, Otani turns on a ball dick.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
To right field. It is gone. Show hey. Old Tony
kicks off the postseason with a bang. So Taiarskar Hernandez
also had a couple of home runs. They got an
eight to nothing lead, and they made Blake Snell, a
very good pitcher, he's had some shoulder issues through his career.
They made him go to seven innings. And the reason
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is Dave Roberts doesn't trust the bullpen. Dodger fans don't
trust the bullpen. The Dodger bullpen doesn't trust the bullpen.
So They're gonna push their starters as long as they
can go, and they their bullpen last night was brutal.
Three pitches, three pitchers, that's what It took fifty nine
pitches to get three outs again Cincinnati, and that's after
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they'd scored three runs. So it's a bad bullpen. But
last night with the Dodgers, need is really good starting
pitching okay, and they need their big bats to deliver well.
Molkie Betts had a couple hits, Freddie Freeman went two
for four. Oh Tani had a couple of bombs. Ta
Oscar Hernandez had a couple of bombs. So it worked
last night. But in the eighth inning that bullpen to
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the Reds fifty nine pitches, three pitchers just to get
three outs. So it was so Dodgers. I said this yesterday,
I think they blew twenty six saves. If they would
have just blown half that, you would add one of
the great Dodger seasons if they have blown just half that.
So they scored ten runs, they had fifteen hits. It
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feels good, but this is how they're gonna have to win.
They're gonna need Otani and Freeman and Max Munsey and
Mookie Betts. They're gonna have to hit. And again, baseball playoffs,
it's the very best pitching. They're gonna have to hit,
really high end pitching in high leverage situations because the
bullpen's not gonna work. It didn't work during the regular season.
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It's not working against the best team, so.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I mean, I thought that felt like a Dodger game.
Your stars, your money players delivered, you got solid starting pitching,
and the bullpen was awful. And that's the Dodgers. So
J Mack also watched on the train home Cubs and
the Podreys and the Podres have a very specific way
they have to play and if they don't play that way,
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they can't win. So I think they're in trouble with
the Cubs. But you know, we were both back there
when the baseball Yankee Red Sox. At the time, the
Yankee spent the most money and the Red Sox were
spent the second most money, and they would bid the hotstole.
League was different. And then the Dodgers got, you know,
new owners, and then the Dodgers now are it's a
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bank and they you know, they push their salaries down
the road. The Dodgers have the best team easily, and
the complaint in New York is, well, we don't because
they do spend money. But it's like Brian Cashman, Aaron Boone,
you don't make big moves. But it's funny about New
York because the Knicks just fired a coach after their
best season in ten plus years. The Giants and the
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Jets are constantly making changes, and the Yankees are kind of,
strangely for New York, strangely patient. And which is right,
the frenetic pace of the Jets, Giants and Knicks or
the Yankees patients. Now Yankee fans would say, I'd rather
be a little bit more like the other guys. But
the Jets, Giants are a circus and the Knicks had
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mostly been a circus. And the Yankees win every year,
but they're incredibly patient. And my takeaway and the Yankees
is would you rather they be the other New York
teams who are making big swings? And Nets, Nicks, Mets, Jets,
those teams are chaotic?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, Well, the problem is that we were spoiled with
the Jeter years winning so many World Series, And now
you say the Yankees are winning, but are they like,
I don't know, I would trade ninety five wins and
a second round loss for a World Series, wouldn't you.
I mean, I get it. You know, we don't want
to become the Portland Trailblazers, where you're in the playoffs
every year but you're not winning a title. Yankee says,
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want to see a World Series Colin, and they haven't
in a while, and then you know that disappointment. I'll
tell you this, if they lose today, I think you'll
see the Yankees spending in the off season big time, right,
You can't.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You can't lose by the Errand Judge making a fortune,
Garrett Cole making a fortune.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
John, there's no salary cap, spend go buy everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well, I think it's spending smart. Why go spend that
on John Carlos Stanton who had injuries and you already
had a better version, Aaron Judge. So I mean my
take is I think the Yankees are an uneven team.
When I watched the Yankees play like this year, strikeouts
the bottom of the league in sacrifices they scored, don't
have a good bullpen. Remember last year in the World
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Series and in the playoffs, they dominate the American League Central.
But they had a bunch of home runs last year,
but they were a bad fielding team. I mean the
last couple of years. Say what you want about the Dodgers.
They have a bad bullpen, but generally the Dodge speed
can steal hit for average, hit for power, good starting pitching.
Now this year the bullpen's awful. But the Yankees have
felt with all the money they spend, are they spending
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it wisely? The bullpen's not very good. They're okay defensively,
but like they led. The only teams that struck out
more in baseball this year were the awful Rockies and
the awful Angels. So it's like it's all or nothing
with the Yankees, and when you face elite pitching, it's
a lot of nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's a lot of busts and Celtics three point shooters
galore in the playoffs. If you miss them, you're losing
your bounce. And the Yankees want to go home run
or nothing.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
No, they're a three point They're an NBA team that
shoots threes but doesn't defend very well. And by the way,
when the Warriors were winning, they shot great threes. They
were also an elite defensive team. That's the Dodgers. You're
not going to be perfect. The Warriors didn't have size.
The Dodgers don't have a great bullpen. But when I
watched the Yankees, they're incredibly patient. They deserve a ton
of credit for that, but they're uneven. It's home runs
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or nothing. It's hard to hit a lot of home
runs against elite pitching unless you're O Tom. He hits
them against everybody. So we got a lot of stuff today.
We got a lot of stuff today. Joel Klatt breaks
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in Philadelphia with the Eagles is not going to end.
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Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, we were talking about the Yankees being uneven. You know,
from ninety six to two thousand and one, you were
in five World Series, they won four of them. They
were a great team, hitting with runners in scoring position,
third in baseball during that span. Now they're twelve. They're
obsessed with the home run. People Forget this. When they
were dominating, Jeter wasn't a big home run hitter. Was
Bernie Williams a big home run hitter? I mean, they
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had really good starting pitching, They hit with runners in
scoring position, they took the extra base, they were very smart,
they were really good on the margins. They weren't a
big home run hitting team. I looked it up this morning,
thirteenth in home runs from ninety six to two thousand
and one when they were dominating baseball. Now, baseball has
obviously changed, and you know, home runs is what teams want.
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But you start looking around baseball right now, I mean,
the Potterys have a very good team. They're doing it
with sacrifices and a great bullpen. There's a lot of
different ways to win. But when they were winning championships,
they hit for average when runners were in scoring position.
Right now they don't, so they're kind of obsessed with
a home run. And listen, Aaron Judge is amazing, but
I mean remember earlier this year Aaron Judge got banged up.
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Yankees were not a good baseball team. So just when
I watched them, I see an uneven franchise. They're really
good at one thing, but there's holes in it, so
I don't think they spend the money that wisely. And
you're looking around at the Brewers. I mean they hit
home runs too, so to the Blue Jays, but they
leave baseball in singles and the Podres don't really hit
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for power at all outside of Machado and Tatisa a little.
But the truth is they have a great bullpen. So
there's a lot of different ways to win, and it
does the Yankees feel a bit lobsided. So yesterday we
talked about this at length. Last year in Philadelphia, there
was a little AJ Brown drama, but it was different.
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They scored like fifty some points in the NFC Championship
and they scored forty or something in the Super Bowl,
and everybody was on the Saquon Barkley train, like, oh,
he's setting records. He was the new guy. Everybody loved it.
So AJ Brown's like, okay, getting many balls thrown my
way whatever, Okay, winning cures everything. Usually in the NFL,
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it's not going to cure everything. Here last nine games
for A. J. Brown in Philadelphia, he's averaging three catches
a game in thirty eight yards. He's arguably the second
or third best receiver in the game. So this different.
Last year was different. Everybody was sharing in the joy
of Saquon Barkley. Everybody was in on it. Everybody loved it.
Everybody took a back seat. And also last year the
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defense was great, number one total scoring defense. This year's
twenty second. This year they're not getting to the quarterback,
so they need AJ Brown, They really need AJ Brown.
Saquon's yards have been cut in half because everybody's stacking
the box. The words out on Jalen Hurts, stack the box,
make him throw. So you know, it's just interesting. Everybody says, oh,
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it's okay, they're winning. Winning cures everything. There are exceptions
to every rule this the last nine games, including the playoffs,
they can't get the ball to Aj Brown. Now are
small at corner. In my opinion, during the trade deadline,
the Rams should make a move. They're tiny at corner.
Maybe they got some six to three guy in the
scout team, but they're just too small. But last year
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was different. The defense was great. They were scoring a
lot of points in big games. They were running the football.
Everybody was sharing in that joy. That's not what they
are now. They need Aj Brown and they can't consistently
get them the ball in their last nine games. And
here's Brian Baldinger on his sort of mentality as a
wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
The thing about Aj is this, he's different than other
wide receivers in that his mentality is like an offensive tackle.
He wants to absolutely obliterate the opponent in front of them.
He wants to take every corner the way Lane Johnson
takes every defensive end or Jordan Malatta takes every defensive
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end and wants to drill them into the dirt, into
the dirt and how meat brass. That's what AJ wants
to do. He doesn't ever get that chance, then that's
what frustrates him.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You got to see the problems ahead of when they'll
eventually face the roadblock. The Eagles are four to zho.
They have a worse point differential than Minnesota that just
got housed in Dublin, and they can't figure out their
quarterback position. They have a worse point differential than the Jaguars.
So this thing eventually, you got to be able to
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see things before their real problems because you have a
trade deadline opportunity here. And that's like, the Rams need
a corner unless they got somebody on the scout team
that I'm not fully aware of, and the Eagles have
a I mean, the only thing that blows up a
great dominant roster is drama. What's the most dramatic position
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in the NFL? In our lives wide receiver. So again,
I think aj Brown last year was like, Hey, it's
Saquan's year. We're winning. Okay, now he's got a trophy.
Now Saquan's yards are cut in half. Now the defense
isn't great and they need him and they still can't
get him the ball. You could talk yourself into being
a good teammate last year, Hey, it's Saquan's year, Saquan's
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not having the same year. Words out box is stacked.
Here's j Mack with the news on the news.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
All right, col, we got a phenomenal Thursday night football
matchup on paper at least, and that's Niners Rams. Okay,
it's gonna be at so Fi. The problem is we
have no idea who's playing for the San Francisco forty
nine Ers. The injury report is brutal. Rock Purty. We
don't know if he's gonna go. He talked about his
status for week five.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Thursday night game, and everything's you know, it's just it's tougher.
I don't have as many days to you know, get
right and heal up and feel better.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So just where wrap.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
If I can play this game, I'm gonna play. And obviously,
you know I want to get right and get healthy
and everything. So but we need to win this game
against the Rams. So that's how I'm looking at it.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
So let's just remove criticism from Purdy. The focus here
colin the forty nine ers. What's going on is this
gamesmanship Fromkyle Shanahan, because this morning in Vegas that line's
on the run. The Rams are now seven point favorites.
Acquay in Vegas here a recently.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I said this yesterday at five and a half, I
said this would be my favorite blazing five pick if
I could pick it. But let me ask you.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Hear Purty in that, I don't know if this is
games a ship where he really may not play. Also
banged up, Juwan Jennings, Ricky Piersoll, They're not practicing, like,
who are we going to battle with here? Matt Jones,
who's digged up, Christian McAffrey gonna get thirty touches. Something
feels off. I don't know if Kyle Shanahan's playing a
game with his buddy McVeigh.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Here's what happened. This is a big rivalry. There's a
lot of ego involved, and it's awesome. The Niners used
to own this series, and they owned it because they
had a better overall roster. But then the Rams started
drafting really really, really really well, and the Rams pivoted
to Matt Stafford. And since that time, it feels like
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it's the Rams. Rams are younger, they're cheaper, they have
more flexibility, they've hit on more draft picks, they have
the better defense, and so this series has swung from
Remember what happened? It was back and forth, back and forth.
Niners started controlling it with Jimmy Garoppolo, and then mcveay
got really tired. Remember that game against the Niners. He
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got frustrated on the sidelines. McVay showed I pinpointed this
game a couple of years ago with Jared Goff, where
you could tell McVay was done with it and he
didn't feel golf could take him to another level. So
they went and got Stafford and they started hitting on
defensive draft picks like all of them. Right now, there
is no question now for the next three years, this
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is going to be a Rams series and I think
tomorrow night you'll get a great look at it.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Listen, I'm going to make a case for the Niners here,
but I don't know that you can remember Niners Colin
zero quarterback hits zero sacks on Trevor Lawrence. If you're not,
if you're giving Matt Stafford dime in the pocket, he's
gonna kill you. And if you have to manufacture pressure
with blitzes, DeVante and Puka, this kind of smells like
a blowout. Now, I will say, uh, the forty nine
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ers are still three in one if memory serves, so
they're not. There's a you never want to say a
coach with punta game, but there's a world where hey, man,
let's let's rest our guys. We're not going to force
them back unners.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
To re vision rivalry. So the truth is it'll be
a low scoring, intense first half. I think the Rams
will eventually pull away. But if I'm the Niners, all
I care about is I got to keep Kittle, Trent Williams,
and McCaffrey upright, because I'm not sure at this point
with banged up perty that mac Jones isn't as good.
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I think if Brock was healthy, he's better. But so
to me, we're not going to be a great defensive team.
We don't have the personnel outside of Fred Warner. Bose's
gone for the year, so the Niners don't have great
defensive personnel. Warner is a first bout Hall of Fan.
After him, it's a lot of young guys should cross
your fingers on in a great defensive coordinator, Robert Solom.
The Niners have to win by scoring. So if you
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told me Trent Kittle plays six sixteen fifteen games and
McCaffrey's healthy, they can win a bunch of games. Yeah,
but right now, I'm not sure dinged up brock Purty
is better than Mac. I know he is healthy, but
I don't think I don't think he is right now.
He makes he's trying to push himself. You watch that
Jags game. He made bad throws a lot.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Here's some pretty stats for this season. Again, limited sample size.
Pump the brakes. He's still a great quarterback. He's not
top ten this year, not top ten this year, but
he'll get there.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
That limited of the samples.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
All right, Let's move on to another big injury calm.
That's a Baltimore Ravens. This is not good man, Lamar Jackson.
The report from the Baltimore Sun as he could miss
the next two to three weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
We talked about it yesterday. Texans this week. Unbelievable turn
of events. The Ravens on the look ahead were nine
and a half. The Texans are now minus one and
a half. Colin this is enormous. Sounds like Lamar Jackson
will not go, but they have Texans rams By. Let's
wrest Lamar. Maybe he can make us make a move
in the second half. But Colin I talked about this
a little bit. Shadeur Sanders had the chance to be
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drafted by Baltimore. Would he be starting? Remember, Baltimore wanted Shadur.
Would shaud Dour Sanders be starting over Cooper Rush this week?
If he had said Baltimore, yeah, I'll come in, he
took the route and maybe it was his dad, Dion,
I don't want to go to Baltimore. I'll never play.
Lamar is down for three weeks. Baltimore wanted Shaduur. Colin
Cooper Rush, we've seen him.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I think my belief has always been always been, if
you in any field, are offered a position and you're young,
I'm not talking you're forty eight years old, you went
to UVA law school, you've been a law partner in
you I'm talking if you're in your twenties and you
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are offered a job by a company with a history
of personnel excellence, take it, take less money, take less
of a position, get in the door. And I believe
that for everything. Now thirties, you've got kids, your careers moving,
then you can get picky. But if the Ravens are
the Eagles both interested call, pick up the phone and
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say I'd like to go there. That's my take always,
and I've said that before. Don't chase money, don't chase titles.
Chase great management when you're in your twenties, because there's
a finite amount of great executive front offices in this league.
The number is about ten and maybe.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah, this really has to get Chador upset to watch
Dylan Gabriel getting to start this week for the Browns
and Chador is like buried on the practice squad again.
I know some people out there, Jay, come on, Cooper
Rush as a seasoned veteran, Okay, he would start over Shadur.
I don't necessarily agree with that. She Dore's much more mobile.
This offensive line has not been great. And oh, by
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the way, the Houston Texans pass rush Colin will Anderson
a company one of the best in the league. Man,
I wish Shador was on the Ravens. See I think
you'd be starting this week. Final story is your Bears
narrowly escaping Vegas with a big win on that late
field goal block. Chicago's run game only had two point
seven yards per carry. Meanwhile, the Raiders rushed for two
forty here's Ben Johnson talking about being upset with the
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offensive run game.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
When you look at it as a whole, it was
it was just a it was a mess. Man. I'm
very I'm just not proud of what we put on tape.
I think it's a reflection of myself. I always take
it personally. I just I saw us getting better the
first three weeks and in a lot of ways on offense,
and then this this was just a little bit of
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a step back for us.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah, Bears on a buy, So you're you're tempering expectations.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So no, no, no, it's it's interesting now. So I
had a conversation two days ago on what a that Wednesday.
It was Monday with a Bears fan and I said, oh,
he goes, you got to be fired up. And I'm like, well,
it's a mess. That was what I said. It's a mess.
I said, you had three interceptions from Geno Smith. Raiders
are not a good team. You know, it's four turnovers,
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three picks, two to the safety. And I'm like, and
you needed to block a field goal? Boy, why shouldn't
I be happy with a win? I said, you could
be whatever you want. I said, but dude, if you.
If you get four turnovers three picks, you got to
win going away. You should beat the Chiefs or the
Bills if you get that. This is the Raiders who
can't block. So it's like Ben Johnson watched what we
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all watched and is totally honest with it. If you're
the Bears' I always want and I get it. Bears
don't win road games, but it was a there are
losses when you come out of it totally concerned. By
week four, the offense cannot have false starts on fourth
and one. You just cannot do that. By week four,
I said, first couple of weeks, I'll give you a pass.
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I mean we week one the Lions were a mess
with new coordinators. But you get to week four and five,
no fall starts on fourth and one, can't have them.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Sorry, real quick, con can we get the Bears schedule
on the screen, because we touched on this so by
week usually you used to get healthy, right the secondary,
maybe get healthy. Okay, we think they'll face Jaden Daniels
coming out of the buy, but Washington has not looked
great recently. Their defense got shredded by Michael Pennix. Then
you get the Saints. We'll get that a win. We
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don't know if Lamar will be back.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
For Week eight. We just don't.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
There's a chance they're facing Cooper.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Rice and I said this before the season, this was
one of the high hardest rank schedule yep. And I
said at the time with you, I said, tell me
the show me the three game stretch of great teams.
This schedule is you get to buy. Next up, Jaden Daniels,
we think plays the bad Saints, Lamar who knows the
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Joe Burles Bengals, the Giants at home that can't score.
Minnesota's quarterback situation not good, Pittsburgh get home certainly winnable.
And Philadelphia, which has had the two worst offensive halves
in the league with their new offensive coordinator. This schedule
was overvalued. It's a normal NFL schedule. It's not a
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great schedule. It's a normal one.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
But if you go by win totals, right, Washington had
a high one. They were in the conference championship, Baltimore
Super Bowl contender, Cincinnati Super Bowl Vikings went.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
To the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Like before the season, this looked tough, but so many
things are breaking their way. I mean, who's starting for
the Browns in week fifteen. Maybe it's the door.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And here's the other thing. Here's the other thing that
I said. I said, Lions don't have a great defense,
Cowboys without Michael won't have it, Raiders don't, Washington didn't,
Saints don't, Bengals even with Borough don't. I mean, the
best defense they play is the Giants. They get them
at home, and the Giants can't score. So this I
think we over Like the Niner schedule was really easy,
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but my take it's not that easy because nobody can
stay healthy. So that schedule was everybody said, oh, I'm like, hey, guy,
you guys, they're not playing with a full deck. It's
an old, brittle roster. And the Bear scheduled looked daunting,
but if you looked at it, it's like, well, they
don't play a great defense, yeah until New York in
week ten, So that means Ben and Caleb can get
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rolling here. So I no, I mean, I think it's
I still think they're an eight win team.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
You steal one, You steal one in Vegas, right, and
everything changed. Now by the way, I could be starting
a receiver for the Niners in week seventeen. My agent's
putting in a call today.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You know, I've been working on.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
The latter drills, Like I mean, I don't know what's
going San Francisco may have nobody left at that point.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
Herd Line news it is.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I'm gonna defend Aaron Rodgers a little bit coming up
next also, well, I'll defend Aaron Rodgers because he is
getting hammered. I don't mean like subtle jabs. He's getting
crushed by people who grade quarterbacks. And I'll talk about
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that next third.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
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Speaker 4 (30:18):
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Speaker 1 (30:31):
I thought yesterday was an amazing day. I watched the
Cubs padres as I took the train home, and I
feel like baseball has become a little like college basketball.
The regular season las urgency, but for about three weeks,
college basketball is unbelievable, and for about six weeks, the
baseball playoffs are stellar. Yesterday was a great, great American
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sports day. It had a March madness feel to it.
And you say, oh, call, you don't like baseball now.
I like baseball for six weeks and I love college
basketball for about three to four four weeks. You got
to give me urgency. When you do a syndicated radio
or TV show, it's just a different ballgame. But I
thought yesterday was unbelievable. You had the Yankee Red Sox drama,
the Dodgers' bullpen imploded again. I'll get to the Padres
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and the Cobs at the top of the hour. Joel
Clad will be joining us as well. But yesterday was
just great sports and baseball. It's not everything like you know.
Not everything is great all the time, and the phone
is distracting. Football does a good job of making every
Saturday or Sunday feel big. It's got like a World
Cup or Olympic feel where it's like, oh, this this
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matters a lot. Not every sport can do that. That's
why the regular ratings, regular season ratings for a hockey
or a baseball or NBA can be a struggle. You
don't have urgency. We've become an event nation. That's what
we've become. We've become an event nation. Everybody's so distracted,
so caffeinated. There's so many platforms. You gotta make stuff
feel big. Barbie Oppenheimer, it feels big a Steve Spielberg movie.
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Then we all come rushing in. So I just thought
yesterday was great. So Aaron Rodgers, this is so it's
I'll explain it. But Aaron Rodgers now, according to PFF,
is the lowest graded quarterback in the NFL. Lower than
JJ McCarthy, lower than Russell Wilson and Flacco, who have
been benched, lower than Ozero and four cam Ward, and
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lower than Gino Smith, who just threw an interception last segment.
He's lower than all of them. He was twenty to
twenty four last weekend. He's completing sixty nine percent of
his throws as a one zero three passer rating. Not
to be obnoxious to PFF, but I'm going to go
with no, he's not the worst, and he may win
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the division because currently in the AFC North, the starters
are Jake Browning, Dylan Gabriel, and Cooper Rush. He may
win the division. Here's Robin to defend Aaron Rodgers. He's
asked on this team. I said this two months ago.
He's Chris Paul. He's not Steph Curry on this team,
Aaron is, he is Chris Paul. Occasionally go hit DK
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Metcalf or a back shoulder throw. I don't need you.
I don't need Steph Curry. I don't need James Harden.
That's not what I need you to do. So he
is the lowest rated quarterback because of the PFF grading.
He has the fewest air yards per attempt. He's not
taking big swings down the field. He only has three
total big time throws all season. That's what they call
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down the field into a tight window. But my take
is he's new here. They've got a good enough defense
to win. If you look at the quarterbacks he's gone against,
it's Carson Wentz with three offensive line injuries. My take
is Aaron in Dublin started looking at that offensive line
with the vikings. He started looking at Kevin O'Connell's inability
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to adapt or change. He couldn't because of personnel. He
looked at the pressure on Carson Wentz. And Aaron's a
smart guy. He's watching in real time. What's happening, and
he's like, I don't need to take any risks. I
don't need to throw the ball down the field. So
I think you have to be careful about PFF grade.
I've watched Gino Smith every snap this year, Aaron's been
the better quarterback. And I also believe Aaron's a very
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smart guy, and he gets into in game situations and
sometimes you let the game breathe. Sometimes the team needs energy,
sometimes they need a big throw down the field. But
in that game, from the very beginning, first drive, first
eight minutes, you're like, oh, Minnesota can't block him, Minnesota's
having a problem here. Then the guy rolls over and
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he's hurt. Aaron read the room. So and if you
look at the schedule for the next couple of weeks,
Cleveland and Cincinnati, they're gonna win two more games. Now
it gets really tough. After that, it's a lot of
Packers and Colts and Chargers and Buffalo and Baltimore and
at Detroit. But I will defend Aaron here. I do
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think this happens all the time. You ever got in
for a big meeting, a sales meeting, and it kind
of goes sideways fast and you're like, I got to
read the room here, I just got to save the meeting.
I'm not we've all gone on the date. You go
to a meeting, Aaron's in a big football game, and
you read the room during the game. I'm gonna scale back,
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no big swings here. So I when I watched that
game with Aaron, the way they were running the football,
I mean they actually ran the football like they look
like a twenty twenty five offense. I think Aaron looked
at it and thought, guys, I'm just not Aaron said,
I'm not gonna make any mistakes. We're gonna win this
football game. I don't need to throw the ball down
the field, so I think, and that's nothing against PFF,
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but I've watched every snap of GINO this year, and
I've seen cam Ward, and I watched Joe Flacco and
Russell Wilson. Aaron knows what he has here. He's playing
backup quarterbacks with a turnover creating defense and an offense
that suddenly now is creating lanes offensively. Why throw the
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ball down the field and take big risks? I think
he's smart. And this is, by the way, the third
straight nice thing i've said about Aaron on this show,
I don't know what's happening, all right, So this story
is gone from compelling to a cautionary tale. Dylan Gabriel
will now start for the Browns. They're benching Joe Flacco.
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But it's worse than that, is that if Dylan Gabriel fails,
they'll go back to Flacco. Shedders now third, here's Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Excited for Dylan.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
He's done everything, He's handled everything really well since he's
been on campus here. So we're just gonna have to
support the young man. Coaches, players, offense, defense, special teams.
We need to coach better. We need to block better,
catch better, run better, all the above. We need to
be better. And I know the quarterback position gets quite
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a bit of scrutiny. I understand that, but this is
about our entire team playing better.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
They have two first round picks, they need a franchise quarterback.
It's all okay, it's going according to plant. I think
they've actually played better than you would have accepted expected.
They beat Green Bay. I didn't think it wasn't on
my bingo card, so I thought the shaduor Sanders story
was fascinating. He dropped like a rock in the draft
and then he went to like OTAs and chopped it
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up and was really good. And I checked because I
thought to myself, do I care about this more than
the audience? So when cable TV, I can go the
next day and look at my ratings minute to minute
to minute. And I looked at the Chaduur Sanders topics
for about a month, and the audience you were as
interested as I was. This story to me is, now,
what's the moral of the story. Can we learn anything
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from this situation? And we can. If you're a great talent,
you can get away with more. If your marginal, you
probably shouldn't call yourself legendary. Bomb pre draft interviews, get
two speeding tickets, Have your dad tell teams don't draft him. Now.
Chadeur lacked some self awareness. But young guys in their twenties,
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I mean, Ryder Cup Joe watched the crowd this weekend.
People in their twenties can lack self awareness. But here's
what I know about the NFL. They don't care if
you're a popular influencer. Thank god, they don't care, I mean,
and they don't care what you did in college, Will
Howard and Stetson Bennett won. Natties can't get on the field.
Patrick Mahomes had a losing college record. I'm not going
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to just cross Shaduur because he lacked some self awareness.
Most twenty three year olds do, especially if they grew
up with wealth. But he right now, he's a marginally
talented celebrity and the NFL just does not care. And
I don't think the story is that interesting. I didn't
even know if I was going to talk about it
today when they brought it to me. But I do
think there's a lesson in here, and that is know
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what you are and know what you're not. I've said
this four sports is kind of unusually cruel to young people,
and the quarterback position. You know, most of us were
goofballs at twenty three. I was most of us. You know,
you make really guys' brains develop more slowly than girls.
For the record, in college athletics, girls are often offer
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scholarships eighth, ninth grade, tenth grade. Why because they mature
more fast, more quickly. You know what you're gonna get
with a young woman emotionally and physically. Guys they change.
You could have a guy that is. I mean, go
look at the story of Josh Allen, and I mean
could not get a junior college offer. Boys explode like
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many of you. I grew seven inches junior to senior
year in high school. Like just guys mature physically and
emotionally different and so. But in the NFL quarterback it's cruel.
We need you to have the maturity of a thirty
eight year old guy at twenty four. Not at wide receiver,
not at Mike linebacker, not at corner, but at quarterback.
We do same. In the NBA, point guard Chris Paul
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was not only gifted. Chris Paul was determined, obsessed, and
mature at twenty four years old. He played. I remember
talking to it NBA exec on this, He's like, he's
a He's like a thirty five year old, ten year
veteran in the NBA breaks in ready to go. So
it's very rare and it's unfair. But at quarterback you
got to be a grown up. That Johnny mandel Zel
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stuff is fine for a lot of positions and fine
for a lot of industries, but you can't be a
goofball at quarterback or surgeon or pilot like I need
to grown up. Can't wear a tied die shirt and
be waking, bake in the morning and jump on my
delta flight. Not gonna work. I'm going for surgery. You
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gotta be prepared. You can't have a hangover. I'm sorry.
And I think there is a moral of the story
on this is at that position, everything counts. Everything, every
single thing counts, all right, Jay Mack, Joel Klatz coming
up wild weekend to college football, and we've changed our
position on some of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Certainly, let me ask you about a quarterback who's in
college last year.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Okay, so we know what Minnesota does. They love to
pressure and blitz you. Well, it didn't work against Aaron Rodgers.
I was just looking up some Dylan Gabriel numbers against
pressure in college. I don't know how much that translates.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
To the league.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Do you think Gabriel is going to have a good
game here against a Viking. I'm kind of fascinated to
watch Gabriel because they liked him a lot coming out
in the draft.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Well, I think it's another example of we talk ourselves
into size doesn't matter for the position. Yes, it does.
He's a very small quarterback. He has the second best
roster in the field. It's an elite defensive coordinator. I
don't think it's going to be a great game for
nothing against him. I don't think it'll be great. All right,
One down, more baseball to go.
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Here we go on a really lively Wednesday, Baseball playoffs.
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as well. The great thing Jmac and you used to
live out there, and so did I. When the Yankees
and the Red Sox meet, especially in the postseason, it
is second guest manager Tom And I'll say this about
the Yankee as an organization, They've been very patient. Cashman's
been there forever, Aaron boone in year eight, and everybody
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wants changes, but the Yankees, outside of one year a
couple of years ago, have been really perennially good. We're
waiting for great. This team's not gonna be great because
there are certain elements that they're just not very good at,
like their bullpen, and that was on display last night.
So here we go. Let's talk Yankees Red Sox Game one.
It's second guest the manager time, and Aaron Boone is
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a pinata to the pinstrifer fans. So he didn't start
Jazz Chisholm or Ben Rice. Oh well, it's a lefty,
righty thing, but that's gonna get second guests if you lose.
And he also pulled the pitcher Max Freed. It was
pretty good last night. And in the seventh inning, and
everybody's gonna freak out. You know, Ahmed Rosario starts over Chishlm.
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Why because he hits the Red Sox ace better Garrett Crochet.
That's why he started him. So they pull at about
one hundred pitches, they pull Max Freed. Everybody's kind of
freaking out. But let's be honest. He was at his
pack pitch limit. He'd labored in previous innings. He didn't
have great command at Aaron Booe knows more about that
than you or I do. So they go to Luke Weaver. Well,
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Luke Weaver has been up and down all year out
of the bullpen. That's the reality. And the Red Sox
have played great baseball at Yankee Stadium this year. They've
won six of eight, they won the season series. So
Luke Weave faltered. And this, this whole night, came down
to a couple high leverage situations. One of them was
Luke Weaver. He didn't get the job done, and that's
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the reality. The other was just historically weird. No teams
ever loaded the bases bottom of the ninth and not
scored a run at least one. But a Raldis Chapman, Yeah,
he throws one hundred miles an hour, strikes out John
Carlos Stanton, You're three hundred twenty five million dollar hitter
in a high leverage spot. The Red Sox were better
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in a clutch spot in the seven, and they got
a historically rare success with the Chapman in the ninth.
And that's the game, and that every baseball fan, especially
in New York, thinks they're a combination of about Earl Weaver,
Billy Martin, Connie mack In, Casey Stingle. Baseball playoffs, especially
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in the series, come down to moments, and one of
those moments is in the seventh inning, and you can say, wow,
Max Freed was really rolling. He had a twenty four
pitch inning, he had a twenty pitch inning, and again,
the Red Sox are a really good team. So my
take is Aaron Boone travels with a team, he knows
his team, and his take was he didn't have great
command a lot of pitches in these innings. I want
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to get out of here. But this whole game came
down to a seventh bullpen miss and a bottom of
the ninth Chapman overpowered Yankee hitters, and that's playoff baseball.
Here's Aaron Boone on his decision to pull Max Freed.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I felt like his command was, you know, not as
good those final few He's just making so many big
pitches and his stuff was good. So look, I mean,
he gave us, you know, what we needed and felt
really good about the outing he put forth. But I
felt pretty convicted, like, you know, especially we got the
double play. It's like, let's go get one more hitter
and be good.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And the other thing is so much of Major League
baseball managing these days is upstairs. A lot of it's
just numbers. Freed, was that a pitch count? And I
don't like that number. I mean, if you pitch one
hundred pitches, now, like that's as much as you're gonna pitch.
And so now, now the Dodgers are in a situation
we'll talk about them in a second. Their bullpen's so
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bad they're gonna blow through that. But the Yankees bullpen's
not that bad. It's not Dodger bad. Okay. So the
other thing is a lot of times it's like when
football coaches on fourth and one or fourth and two,
go for it. If you make it, you have courage.
I like him. This guy's tough's genius. And if it fails,
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guy's an idiot. How do you go forward on fourth
and two? So I don't like to do a lot
of post game Baseball is one hundred and sixty two
games long. You got twenty five two months in spring training.
These managers tend to know their staffs better than I do,
certainly better than the average fan does or media member.
So my take is it's like, okay, is it one
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hundred pitches twenty four pitch inning? Previously, he don't that
great command, I'm gonna make the move and Luke Weaver
Ben Spotty faltered. That's the game, all right, Let's go Dodgers.
So the Dodgers are favored over the Cincinnati Reps. I
mean the Dodgers payrolls three times that it'd be more
if you weren't pushing Otani's salary down the road. The
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reality is the Dodgers are gonna win this series. But
last night's a prime example of why they're not gonna
win win the World Series. They had an eight to
nothing lead and won ten to five. So here's how
it all started. First inning with show hey Otani.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The two one pitch, Otani turns on a ball dick.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
To right field. It is gone. Show hey. Old Tony
kicks off the postseason with a bang. So Taiarskar Hernandez
also had a couple of home runs. They got an
eight to nothing lead, and they made Blake Snell, a
very good pitcher, he's had some shoulder issues through his career.
They made him go to seven innings. And the reason
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is Dave Roberts doesn't trust the bullpen. Dodger fans don't
trust the bullpen. The Dodger bullpen doesn't trust the bullpen.
So They're gonna push their starters as long as they
can go, and they their bullpen last night was brutal.
Three pitches, three pitchers, that's what It took fifty nine
pitches to get three outs again Cincinnati, and that's after
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they'd scored three runs. So it's a bad bullpen. But
last night with the Dodgers, need is really good starting
pitching okay, and they need their big bats to deliver well.
Molkie Betts had a couple hits, Freddie Freeman went two
for four. Oh Tani had a couple of bombs. Ta
Oscar Hernandez had a couple of bombs. So it worked
last night. But in the eighth inning that bullpen to
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the Reds fifty nine pitches, three pitchers just to get
three outs. So it was so Dodgers. I said this yesterday,
I think they blew twenty six saves. If they would
have just blown half that, you would add one of
the great Dodger seasons if they have blown just half that.
So they scored ten runs, they had fifteen hits. It
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feels good, but this is how they're gonna have to win.
They're gonna need Otani and Freeman and Max Munsey and
Mookie Betts. They're gonna have to hit. And again, baseball playoffs,
it's the very best pitching. They're gonna have to hit,
really high end pitching in high leverage situations because the
bullpen's not gonna work. It didn't work during the regular season.
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It's not working against the best team, so.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I mean, I thought that felt like a Dodger game.
Your stars, your money players delivered, you got solid starting pitching,
and the bullpen was awful. And that's the Dodgers. So
J Mack also watched on the train home Cubs and
the Podreys and the Podres have a very specific way
they have to play and if they don't play that way,
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they can't win. So I think they're in trouble with
the Cubs. But you know, we were both back there
when the baseball Yankee Red Sox. At the time, the
Yankee spent the most money and the Red Sox were
spent the second most money, and they would bid the hotstole.
League was different. And then the Dodgers got, you know,
new owners, and then the Dodgers now are it's a
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bank and they you know, they push their salaries down
the road. The Dodgers have the best team easily, and
the complaint in New York is, well, we don't because
they do spend money. But it's like Brian Cashman, Aaron Boone,
you don't make big moves. But it's funny about New
York because the Knicks just fired a coach after their
best season in ten plus years. The Giants and the
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Jets are constantly making changes, and the Yankees are kind of,
strangely for New York, strangely patient. And which is right,
the frenetic pace of the Jets, Giants and Knicks or
the Yankees patients. Now Yankee fans would say, I'd rather
be a little bit more like the other guys. But
the Jets, Giants are a circus and the Knicks had
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mostly been a circus. And the Yankees win every year,
but they're incredibly patient. And my takeaway and the Yankees
is would you rather they be the other New York
teams who are making big swings? And Nets, Nicks, Mets, Jets,
those teams are chaotic?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, Well, the problem is that we were spoiled with
the Jeter years winning so many World Series, And now
you say the Yankees are winning, but are they like,
I don't know, I would trade ninety five wins and
a second round loss for a World Series, wouldn't you.
I mean, I get it. You know, we don't want
to become the Portland Trailblazers, where you're in the playoffs
every year but you're not winning a title. Yankee says,
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want to see a World Series Colin, and they haven't
in a while, and then you know that disappointment. I'll
tell you this, if they lose today, I think you'll
see the Yankees spending in the off season big time, right,
You can't.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You can't lose by the Errand Judge making a fortune,
Garrett Cole making a fortune.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
John, there's no salary cap, spend go buy everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well, I think it's spending smart. Why go spend that
on John Carlos Stanton who had injuries and you already
had a better version, Aaron Judge. So I mean my
take is I think the Yankees are an uneven team.
When I watched the Yankees play like this year, strikeouts
the bottom of the league in sacrifices they scored, don't
have a good bullpen. Remember last year in the World
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Series and in the playoffs, they dominate the American League Central.
But they had a bunch of home runs last year,
but they were a bad fielding team. I mean the
last couple of years. Say what you want about the Dodgers.
They have a bad bullpen, but generally the Dodge speed
can steal hit for average, hit for power, good starting pitching.
Now this year the bullpen's awful. But the Yankees have
felt with all the money they spend, are they spending
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it wisely? The bullpen's not very good. They're okay defensively,
but like they led. The only teams that struck out
more in baseball this year were the awful Rockies and
the awful Angels. So it's like it's all or nothing
with the Yankees, and when you face elite pitching, it's
a lot of nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's a lot of busts and Celtics three point shooters
galore in the playoffs. If you miss them, you're losing
your bounce. And the Yankees want to go home run
or nothing.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
No, they're a three point They're an NBA team that
shoots threes but doesn't defend very well. And by the way,
when the Warriors were winning, they shot great threes. They
were also an elite defensive team. That's the Dodgers. You're
not going to be perfect. The Warriors didn't have size.
The Dodgers don't have a great bullpen. But when I
watched the Yankees, they're incredibly patient. They deserve a ton
of credit for that, but they're uneven. It's home runs
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or nothing. It's hard to hit a lot of home
runs against elite pitching unless you're O Tom. He hits
them against everybody. So we got a lot of stuff today.
We got a lot of stuff today. Joel Klatt breaks
down the crazy weekend of college football and this drama
in Philadelphia with the Eagles is not going to end.
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Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, we were talking about the Yankees being uneven. You know,
from ninety six to two thousand and one, you were
in five World Series, they won four of them. They
were a great team, hitting with runners in scoring position,
third in baseball during that span. Now they're twelve. They're
obsessed with the home run. People Forget this. When they
were dominating, Jeter wasn't a big home run hitter. Was
Bernie Williams a big home run hitter? I mean, they
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had really good starting pitching, They hit with runners in
scoring position, they took the extra base, they were very smart,
they were really good on the margins. They weren't a
big home run hitting team. I looked it up this morning,
thirteenth in home runs from ninety six to two thousand
and one when they were dominating baseball. Now, baseball has
obviously changed, and you know, home runs is what teams want.
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But you start looking around baseball right now, I mean,
the Potterys have a very good team. They're doing it
with sacrifices and a great bullpen. There's a lot of
different ways to win. But when they were winning championships,
they hit for average when runners were in scoring position.
Right now they don't, so they're kind of obsessed with
a home run. And listen, Aaron Judge is amazing, but
I mean remember earlier this year Aaron Judge got banged up.
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Yankees were not a good baseball team. So just when
I watched them, I see an uneven franchise. They're really
good at one thing, but there's holes in it, so
I don't think they spend the money that wisely. And
you're looking around at the Brewers. I mean they hit
home runs too, so to the Blue Jays, but they
leave baseball in singles and the Podres don't really hit
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for power at all outside of Machado and Tatisa a little.
But the truth is they have a great bullpen. So
there's a lot of different ways to win, and it
does the Yankees feel a bit lobsided. So yesterday we
talked about this at length. Last year in Philadelphia, there
was a little AJ Brown drama, but it was different.
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They scored like fifty some points in the NFC Championship
and they scored forty or something in the Super Bowl,
and everybody was on the Saquon Barkley train, like, oh,
he's setting records. He was the new guy. Everybody loved it.
So AJ Brown's like, okay, getting many balls thrown my
way whatever, Okay, winning cures everything. Usually in the NFL,
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it's not going to cure everything. Here last nine games
for A. J. Brown in Philadelphia, he's averaging three catches
a game in thirty eight yards. He's arguably the second
or third best receiver in the game. So this different.
Last year was different. Everybody was sharing in the joy
of Saquon Barkley. Everybody was in on it. Everybody loved it.
Everybody took a back seat. And also last year the
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defense was great, number one total scoring defense. This year's
twenty second. This year they're not getting to the quarterback,
so they need AJ Brown, They really need AJ Brown.
Saquon's yards have been cut in half because everybody's stacking
the box. The words out on Jalen Hurts, stack the box,
make him throw. So you know, it's just interesting. Everybody says, oh,
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it's okay, they're winning. Winning cures everything. There are exceptions
to every rule this the last nine games, including the playoffs,
they can't get the ball to Aj Brown. Now are
small at corner. In my opinion, during the trade deadline,
the Rams should make a move. They're tiny at corner.
Maybe they got some six to three guy in the
scout team, but they're just too small. But last year
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was different. The defense was great. They were scoring a
lot of points in big games. They were running the football.
Everybody was sharing in that joy. That's not what they
are now. They need Aj Brown and they can't consistently
get them the ball in their last nine games. And
here's Brian Baldinger on his sort of mentality as a
wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
The thing about Aj is this, he's different than other
wide receivers in that his mentality is like an offensive tackle.
He wants to absolutely obliterate the opponent in front of them.
He wants to take every corner the way Lane Johnson
takes every defensive end or Jordan Malatta takes every defensive
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end and wants to drill them into the dirt, into
the dirt and how meat brass. That's what AJ wants
to do. He doesn't ever get that chance, then that's
what frustrates him.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You got to see the problems ahead of when they'll
eventually face the roadblock. The Eagles are four to zho.
They have a worse point differential than Minnesota that just
got housed in Dublin, and they can't figure out their
quarterback position. They have a worse point differential than the Jaguars.
So this thing eventually, you got to be able to
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see things before their real problems because you have a
trade deadline opportunity here. And that's like, the Rams need
a corner unless they got somebody on the scout team
that I'm not fully aware of, and the Eagles have
a I mean, the only thing that blows up a
great dominant roster is drama. What's the most dramatic position
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in the NFL? In our lives wide receiver. So again,
I think aj Brown last year was like, Hey, it's
Saquan's year. We're winning. Okay, now he's got a trophy.
Now Saquan's yards are cut in half. Now the defense
isn't great and they need him and they still can't
get him the ball. You could talk yourself into being
a good teammate last year, Hey, it's Saquan's year, Saquan's
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not having the same year. Words out box is stacked.
Here's j Mack with the news on the news.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
All right, col, we got a phenomenal Thursday night football
matchup on paper at least, and that's Niners Rams. Okay,
it's gonna be at so Fi. The problem is we
have no idea who's playing for the San Francisco forty
nine Ers. The injury report is brutal. Rock Purty. We
don't know if he's gonna go. He talked about his
status for week five.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Thursday night game, and everything's you know, it's just it's tougher.
I don't have as many days to you know, get
right and heal up and feel better.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So just where wrap.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
If I can play this game, I'm gonna play. And obviously,
you know I want to get right and get healthy
and everything. So but we need to win this game
against the Rams. So that's how I'm looking at it.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
So let's just remove criticism from Purdy. The focus here
colin the forty nine ers. What's going on is this
gamesmanship Fromkyle Shanahan, because this morning in Vegas that line's
on the run. The Rams are now seven point favorites.
Acquay in Vegas here a recently.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I said this yesterday at five and a half, I
said this would be my favorite blazing five pick if
I could pick it. But let me ask you.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Hear Purty in that, I don't know if this is
games a ship where he really may not play. Also
banged up, Juwan Jennings, Ricky Piersoll, They're not practicing, like,
who are we going to battle with here? Matt Jones,
who's digged up, Christian McAffrey gonna get thirty touches. Something
feels off. I don't know if Kyle Shanahan's playing a
game with his buddy McVeigh.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Here's what happened. This is a big rivalry. There's a
lot of ego involved, and it's awesome. The Niners used
to own this series, and they owned it because they
had a better overall roster. But then the Rams started
drafting really really, really really well, and the Rams pivoted
to Matt Stafford. And since that time, it feels like
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it's the Rams. Rams are younger, they're cheaper, they have
more flexibility, they've hit on more draft picks, they have
the better defense, and so this series has swung from
Remember what happened? It was back and forth, back and forth.
Niners started controlling it with Jimmy Garoppolo, and then mcveay
got really tired. Remember that game against the Niners. He
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got frustrated on the sidelines. McVay showed I pinpointed this
game a couple of years ago with Jared Goff, where
you could tell McVay was done with it and he
didn't feel golf could take him to another level. So
they went and got Stafford and they started hitting on
defensive draft picks like all of them. Right now, there
is no question now for the next three years, this
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is going to be a Rams series and I think
tomorrow night you'll get a great look at it.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Listen, I'm going to make a case for the Niners here,
but I don't know that you can remember Niners Colin
zero quarterback hits zero sacks on Trevor Lawrence. If you're not,
if you're giving Matt Stafford dime in the pocket, he's
gonna kill you. And if you have to manufacture pressure
with blitzes, DeVante and Puka, this kind of smells like
a blowout. Now, I will say, uh, the forty nine
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ers are still three in one if memory serves, so
they're not. There's a you never want to say a
coach with punta game, but there's a world where hey, man,
let's let's rest our guys. We're not going to force
them back unners.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
To re vision rivalry. So the truth is it'll be
a low scoring, intense first half. I think the Rams
will eventually pull away. But if I'm the Niners, all
I care about is I got to keep Kittle, Trent Williams,
and McCaffrey upright, because I'm not sure at this point
with banged up perty that mac Jones isn't as good.
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I think if Brock was healthy, he's better. But so
to me, we're not going to be a great defensive team.
We don't have the personnel outside of Fred Warner. Bose's
gone for the year, so the Niners don't have great
defensive personnel. Warner is a first bout Hall of Fan.
After him, it's a lot of young guys should cross
your fingers on in a great defensive coordinator, Robert Solom.
The Niners have to win by scoring. So if you
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told me Trent Kittle plays six sixteen fifteen games and
McCaffrey's healthy, they can win a bunch of games. Yeah,
but right now, I'm not sure dinged up brock Purty
is better than Mac. I know he is healthy, but
I don't think I don't think he is right now.
He makes he's trying to push himself. You watch that
Jags game. He made bad throws a lot.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Here's some pretty stats for this season. Again, limited sample size.
Pump the brakes. He's still a great quarterback. He's not
top ten this year, not top ten this year, but
he'll get there.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
That limited of the samples.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
All right, Let's move on to another big injury calm.
That's a Baltimore Ravens. This is not good man, Lamar Jackson.
The report from the Baltimore Sun as he could miss
the next two to three weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
We talked about it yesterday. Texans this week. Unbelievable turn
of events. The Ravens on the look ahead were nine
and a half. The Texans are now minus one and
a half. Colin this is enormous. Sounds like Lamar Jackson
will not go, but they have Texans rams By. Let's
wrest Lamar. Maybe he can make us make a move
in the second half. But Colin I talked about this
a little bit. Shadeur Sanders had the chance to be
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drafted by Baltimore. Would he be starting? Remember, Baltimore wanted Shadur.
Would shaud Dour Sanders be starting over Cooper Rush this week?
If he had said Baltimore, yeah, I'll come in, he
took the route and maybe it was his dad, Dion,
I don't want to go to Baltimore. I'll never play.
Lamar is down for three weeks. Baltimore wanted Shaduur. Colin
Cooper Rush, we've seen him.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I think my belief has always been always been, if
you in any field, are offered a position and you're young,
I'm not talking you're forty eight years old, you went
to UVA law school, you've been a law partner in
you I'm talking if you're in your twenties and you
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are offered a job by a company with a history
of personnel excellence, take it, take less money, take less
of a position, get in the door. And I believe
that for everything. Now thirties, you've got kids, your careers moving,
then you can get picky. But if the Ravens are
the Eagles both interested call, pick up the phone and
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say I'd like to go there. That's my take always,
and I've said that before. Don't chase money, don't chase titles.
Chase great management when you're in your twenties, because there's
a finite amount of great executive front offices in this league.
The number is about ten and maybe.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah, this really has to get Chador upset to watch
Dylan Gabriel getting to start this week for the Browns
and Chador is like buried on the practice squad again.
I know some people out there, Jay, come on, Cooper
Rush as a seasoned veteran, Okay, he would start over Shadur.
I don't necessarily agree with that. She Dore's much more mobile.
This offensive line has not been great. And oh, by
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the way, the Houston Texans pass rush Colin will Anderson
a company one of the best in the league. Man,
I wish Shador was on the Ravens. See I think
you'd be starting this week. Final story is your Bears
narrowly escaping Vegas with a big win on that late
field goal block. Chicago's run game only had two point
seven yards per carry. Meanwhile, the Raiders rushed for two
forty here's Ben Johnson talking about being upset with the
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offensive run game.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
When you look at it as a whole, it was
it was just a it was a mess. Man. I'm
very I'm just not proud of what we put on tape.
I think it's a reflection of myself. I always take
it personally. I just I saw us getting better the
first three weeks and in a lot of ways on offense,
and then this this was just a little bit of
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a step back for us.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah, Bears on a buy, So you're you're tempering expectations.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So no, no, no, it's it's interesting now. So I
had a conversation two days ago on what a that Wednesday.
It was Monday with a Bears fan and I said, oh,
he goes, you got to be fired up. And I'm like, well,
it's a mess. That was what I said. It's a mess.
I said, you had three interceptions from Geno Smith. Raiders
are not a good team. You know, it's four turnovers,
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three picks, two to the safety. And I'm like, and
you needed to block a field goal? Boy, why shouldn't
I be happy with a win? I said, you could
be whatever you want. I said, but dude, if you.
If you get four turnovers three picks, you got to
win going away. You should beat the Chiefs or the
Bills if you get that. This is the Raiders who
can't block. So it's like Ben Johnson watched what we
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all watched and is totally honest with it. If you're
the Bears' I always want and I get it. Bears
don't win road games, but it was a there are
losses when you come out of it totally concerned. By
week four, the offense cannot have false starts on fourth
and one. You just cannot do that. By week four,
I said, first couple of weeks, I'll give you a pass.
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I mean we week one the Lions were a mess
with new coordinators. But you get to week four and five,
no fall starts on fourth and one, can't have them.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Sorry, real quick, con can we get the Bears schedule
on the screen, because we touched on this so by
week usually you used to get healthy, right the secondary,
maybe get healthy. Okay, we think they'll face Jaden Daniels
coming out of the buy, but Washington has not looked
great recently. Their defense got shredded by Michael Pennix. Then
you get the Saints. We'll get that a win. We
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don't know if Lamar will be back.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
For Week eight. We just don't.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
There's a chance they're facing Cooper.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Rice and I said this before the season, this was
one of the high hardest rank schedule yep. And I
said at the time with you, I said, tell me
the show me the three game stretch of great teams.
This schedule is you get to buy. Next up, Jaden Daniels,
we think plays the bad Saints, Lamar who knows the
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Joe Burles Bengals, the Giants at home that can't score.
Minnesota's quarterback situation not good, Pittsburgh get home certainly winnable.
And Philadelphia, which has had the two worst offensive halves
in the league with their new offensive coordinator. This schedule
was overvalued. It's a normal NFL schedule. It's not a
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great schedule. It's a normal one.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
But if you go by win totals, right, Washington had
a high one. They were in the conference championship, Baltimore
Super Bowl contender, Cincinnati Super Bowl Vikings went.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
To the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Like before the season, this looked tough, but so many
things are breaking their way. I mean, who's starting for
the Browns in week fifteen. Maybe it's the door.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And here's the other thing. Here's the other thing that
I said. I said, Lions don't have a great defense,
Cowboys without Michael won't have it, Raiders don't, Washington didn't,
Saints don't, Bengals even with Borough don't. I mean, the
best defense they play is the Giants. They get them
at home, and the Giants can't score. So this I
think we over Like the Niner schedule was really easy,
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but my take it's not that easy because nobody can
stay healthy. So that schedule was everybody said, oh, I'm like, hey, guy,
you guys, they're not playing with a full deck. It's
an old, brittle roster. And the Bear scheduled looked daunting,
but if you looked at it, it's like, well, they
don't play a great defense, yeah until New York in
week ten, So that means Ben and Caleb can get
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rolling here. So I no, I mean, I think it's
I still think they're an eight win team.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
You steal one, You steal one in Vegas, right, and
everything changed. Now by the way, I could be starting
a receiver for the Niners in week seventeen. My agent's
putting in a call today.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You know, I've been working on.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
The latter drills, Like I mean, I don't know what's
going San Francisco may have nobody left at that point.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
Herd Line news it is.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I'm gonna defend Aaron Rodgers a little bit coming up
next also, well, I'll defend Aaron Rodgers because he is
getting hammered. I don't mean like subtle jabs. He's getting
crushed by people who grade quarterbacks. And I'll talk about
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that next third.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
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Speaker 4 (30:18):
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Speaker 1 (30:31):
I thought yesterday was an amazing day. I watched the
Cubs padres as I took the train home, and I
feel like baseball has become a little like college basketball.
The regular season las urgency, but for about three weeks,
college basketball is unbelievable, and for about six weeks, the
baseball playoffs are stellar. Yesterday was a great, great American
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sports day. It had a March madness feel to it.
And you say, oh, call, you don't like baseball now.
I like baseball for six weeks and I love college
basketball for about three to four four weeks. You got
to give me urgency. When you do a syndicated radio
or TV show, it's just a different ballgame. But I
thought yesterday was unbelievable. You had the Yankee Red Sox drama,
the Dodgers' bullpen imploded again. I'll get to the Padres
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and the Cobs at the top of the hour. Joel
Clad will be joining us as well. But yesterday was
just great sports and baseball. It's not everything like you know.
Not everything is great all the time, and the phone
is distracting. Football does a good job of making every
Saturday or Sunday feel big. It's got like a World
Cup or Olympic feel where it's like, oh, this this
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matters a lot. Not every sport can do that. That's
why the regular ratings, regular season ratings for a hockey
or a baseball or NBA can be a struggle. You
don't have urgency. We've become an event nation. That's what
we've become. We've become an event nation. Everybody's so distracted,
so caffeinated. There's so many platforms. You gotta make stuff
feel big. Barbie Oppenheimer, it feels big a Steve Spielberg movie.
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Then we all come rushing in. So I just thought
yesterday was great. So Aaron Rodgers, this is so it's
I'll explain it. But Aaron Rodgers now, according to PFF,
is the lowest graded quarterback in the NFL. Lower than
JJ McCarthy, lower than Russell Wilson and Flacco, who have
been benched, lower than Ozero and four cam Ward, and
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lower than Gino Smith, who just threw an interception last segment.
He's lower than all of them. He was twenty to
twenty four last weekend. He's completing sixty nine percent of
his throws as a one zero three passer rating. Not
to be obnoxious to PFF, but I'm going to go
with no, he's not the worst, and he may win
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the division because currently in the AFC North, the starters
are Jake Browning, Dylan Gabriel, and Cooper Rush. He may
win the division. Here's Robin to defend Aaron Rodgers. He's
asked on this team. I said this two months ago.
He's Chris Paul. He's not Steph Curry on this team,
Aaron is, he is Chris Paul. Occasionally go hit DK
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Metcalf or a back shoulder throw. I don't need you.
I don't need Steph Curry. I don't need James Harden.
That's not what I need you to do. So he
is the lowest rated quarterback because of the PFF grading.
He has the fewest air yards per attempt. He's not
taking big swings down the field. He only has three
total big time throws all season. That's what they call
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down the field into a tight window. But my take
is he's new here. They've got a good enough defense
to win. If you look at the quarterbacks he's gone against,
it's Carson Wentz with three offensive line injuries. My take
is Aaron in Dublin started looking at that offensive line
with the vikings. He started looking at Kevin O'Connell's inability
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to adapt or change. He couldn't because of personnel. He
looked at the pressure on Carson Wentz. And Aaron's a
smart guy. He's watching in real time. What's happening, and
he's like, I don't need to take any risks. I
don't need to throw the ball down the field. So
I think you have to be careful about PFF grade.
I've watched Gino Smith every snap this year, Aaron's been
the better quarterback. And I also believe Aaron's a very
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smart guy, and he gets into in game situations and
sometimes you let the game breathe. Sometimes the team needs energy,
sometimes they need a big throw down the field. But
in that game, from the very beginning, first drive, first
eight minutes, you're like, oh, Minnesota can't block him, Minnesota's
having a problem here. Then the guy rolls over and
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he's hurt. Aaron read the room. So and if you
look at the schedule for the next couple of weeks,
Cleveland and Cincinnati, they're gonna win two more games. Now
it gets really tough. After that, it's a lot of
Packers and Colts and Chargers and Buffalo and Baltimore and
at Detroit. But I will defend Aaron here. I do
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think this happens all the time. You ever got in
for a big meeting, a sales meeting, and it kind
of goes sideways fast and you're like, I got to
read the room here, I just got to save the meeting.
I'm not we've all gone on the date. You go
to a meeting, Aaron's in a big football game, and
you read the room during the game. I'm gonna scale back,
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no big swings here. So I when I watched that
game with Aaron, the way they were running the football,
I mean they actually ran the football like they look
like a twenty twenty five offense. I think Aaron looked
at it and thought, guys, I'm just not Aaron said,
I'm not gonna make any mistakes. We're gonna win this
football game. I don't need to throw the ball down
the field, so I think, and that's nothing against PFF,
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but I've watched every snap of GINO this year, and
I've seen cam Ward, and I watched Joe Flacco and
Russell Wilson. Aaron knows what he has here. He's playing
backup quarterbacks with a turnover creating defense and an offense
that suddenly now is creating lanes offensively. Why throw the
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ball down the field and take big risks? I think
he's smart. And this is, by the way, the third
straight nice thing i've said about Aaron on this show,
I don't know what's happening, all right, So this story
is gone from compelling to a cautionary tale. Dylan Gabriel
will now start for the Browns. They're benching Joe Flacco.
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But it's worse than that, is that if Dylan Gabriel fails,
they'll go back to Flacco. Shedders now third, here's Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Excited for Dylan.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
He's done everything, He's handled everything really well since he's
been on campus here. So we're just gonna have to
support the young man. Coaches, players, offense, defense, special teams.
We need to coach better. We need to block better,
catch better, run better, all the above. We need to
be better. And I know the quarterback position gets quite
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a bit of scrutiny. I understand that, but this is
about our entire team playing better.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
They have two first round picks, they need a franchise quarterback.
It's all okay, it's going according to plant. I think
they've actually played better than you would have accepted expected.
They beat Green Bay. I didn't think it wasn't on
my bingo card, so I thought the shaduor Sanders story
was fascinating. He dropped like a rock in the draft
and then he went to like OTAs and chopped it
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up and was really good. And I checked because I
thought to myself, do I care about this more than
the audience? So when cable TV, I can go the
next day and look at my ratings minute to minute
to minute. And I looked at the Chaduur Sanders topics
for about a month, and the audience you were as
interested as I was. This story to me is, now,
what's the moral of the story. Can we learn anything
(37:46):
from this situation? And we can. If you're a great talent,
you can get away with more. If your marginal, you
probably shouldn't call yourself legendary. Bomb pre draft interviews, get
two speeding tickets, Have your dad tell teams don't draft him. Now.
Chadeur lacked some self awareness. But young guys in their twenties,
(38:10):
I mean, Ryder Cup Joe watched the crowd this weekend.
People in their twenties can lack self awareness. But here's
what I know about the NFL. They don't care if
you're a popular influencer. Thank god, they don't care, I mean,
and they don't care what you did in college, Will
Howard and Stetson Bennett won. Natties can't get on the field.
Patrick Mahomes had a losing college record. I'm not going
(38:33):
to just cross Shaduur because he lacked some self awareness.
Most twenty three year olds do, especially if they grew
up with wealth. But he right now, he's a marginally
talented celebrity and the NFL just does not care. And
I don't think the story is that interesting. I didn't
even know if I was going to talk about it
today when they brought it to me. But I do
think there's a lesson in here, and that is know
(38:57):
what you are and know what you're not. I've said
this four sports is kind of unusually cruel to young people,
and the quarterback position. You know, most of us were
goofballs at twenty three. I was most of us. You know,
you make really guys' brains develop more slowly than girls.
For the record, in college athletics, girls are often offer
(39:21):
scholarships eighth, ninth grade, tenth grade. Why because they mature
more fast, more quickly. You know what you're gonna get
with a young woman emotionally and physically. Guys they change.
You could have a guy that is. I mean, go
look at the story of Josh Allen, and I mean
could not get a junior college offer. Boys explode like
(39:42):
many of you. I grew seven inches junior to senior
year in high school. Like just guys mature physically and
emotionally different and so. But in the NFL quarterback it's cruel.
We need you to have the maturity of a thirty
eight year old guy at twenty four. Not at wide receiver,
not at Mike linebacker, not at corner, but at quarterback.
We do same. In the NBA, point guard Chris Paul
(40:06):
was not only gifted. Chris Paul was determined, obsessed, and
mature at twenty four years old. He played. I remember
talking to it NBA exec on this, He's like, he's
a He's like a thirty five year old, ten year
veteran in the NBA breaks in ready to go. So
it's very rare and it's unfair. But at quarterback you
got to be a grown up. That Johnny mandel Zel
(40:26):
stuff is fine for a lot of positions and fine
for a lot of industries, but you can't be a
goofball at quarterback or surgeon or pilot like I need
to grown up. Can't wear a tied die shirt and
be waking, bake in the morning and jump on my
delta flight. Not gonna work. I'm going for surgery. You
(40:47):
gotta be prepared. You can't have a hangover. I'm sorry.
And I think there is a moral of the story
on this is at that position, everything counts. Everything, every
single thing counts, all right, Jay Mack, Joel Klatz coming
up wild weekend to college football, and we've changed our
position on some of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Certainly, let me ask you about a quarterback who's in
college last year.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Okay, so we know what Minnesota does. They love to
pressure and blitz you. Well, it didn't work against Aaron Rodgers.
I was just looking up some Dylan Gabriel numbers against
pressure in college. I don't know how much that translates.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
To the league.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Do you think Gabriel is going to have a good
game here against a Viking. I'm kind of fascinated to
watch Gabriel because they liked him a lot coming out
in the draft.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Well, I think it's another example of we talk ourselves
into size doesn't matter for the position. Yes, it does.
He's a very small quarterback. He has the second best
roster in the field. It's an elite defensive coordinator. I
don't think it's going to be a great game for
nothing against him. I don't think it'll be great. All right,
One down, more baseball to go.
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