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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in what Driving the Great episode two seven or
three seventy three Pardon Me, brought to you as always
by our friends at boost Mobile. Busy week in the NFL.
And there, you know, we are now to where teams
are really starting to take shape. First quarter of the
(00:24):
season is done. You know, Devonte didn't used to be
like this. I'm gonna sound like it. I'm gonna sound
like an old man here, and I might sound like
an old man with the Shadoor conversation. This first one, though,
is not about like taste. It's just reality that post
twenty eleven lockout, when they really changed the rules on
(00:48):
what you can and can't do in the offseason, end
in training camp, and then later on when they removed
one of the four preseason games even less pad practices,
added a seventeenth regular season game, September really became not
quite an extended preseason, but similar to that in a
(01:13):
way it didn't used to be. And so teams use
September now to kind of try to figure out who
they are and get you know, get so they are
rolling by October, when in the past that's literally what
the preseason was. Starters played a lot big time players
played a lot, they had had a bunch of hard
(01:35):
to a day practices, and so it makes handicapping the
league the first few weeks of the season a little
more difficult because teams really do change over the course
of the year. But now we're in October, and now
you kind of not are who you are, but you're
a lot closer to your final form. And the hope
(01:57):
is that you didn't dig yourself to big of a
hole in September, and so that the two teams that
we thought could be legit certainly playoff and in one
of their cases championship contenders who dug quite a big hole,
are playing each other this weekend in Baltimore and Houston.
(02:19):
Those are the two teams that didn't survive September at
least five hundred, and now they are their backs are
against the wall a bit. Obviously, other teams, like the
Niners dealing with injuries or the Bengals dealing with Burrow
being out, are in different spots. But from a record perspective,
but I think we're gonna start seeing really good football.
(02:40):
And we've seen some good football, but really good football
starting that is starting probably not tonight, but this weekend
and that I'm excited for.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
How are you doing this morning, I'm doing pretty good, Pops.
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'm doing well. This has been an interesting week because,
as expected, there are corners of the Internet and corners
of the corners and sections of my colleagues that are
(03:16):
I don't even think mad at me is the right word, like,
just openly, I don't know if mocking is the right word.
Something very they're nonplussed about some of my Lamar commentary
the last seventy two hours, and this is an annual
tradition and the only part of it that I actually
(03:38):
have been not irked, but yeah, ir well, not even
hit home, just annoyed. I guess the right word is
folks saying it's a straw man that people don't acknowledge
Lamar's big game or postseason struggles. I'm like, it is
(03:59):
because does all of you picked the Ravens to win
the Super Bowl every year? So that it feels like
that kind of fails to acknowledge it. But I'm not
doing Lamar today. I mean, we will do a little
Ravens because I do think there's a chance he plays.
I think there is a chance he should so I
(04:20):
and I think they could win with with Cooper Rush,
and that's not it's not an just if you just
run Dereck Henry thirty five times, I think you can
beat up flailing Texans team. But we'll get to that first.
We have to get to what we're not going to
get to, which is straight to voicemail brought to you
by boost Mobile. Uh Lebron joins Kay Sinat on stream
(04:41):
along with ty Lill. Big weekend for those threes, those
streamer guys that I got to spend a little bit
of time with back in June, in Kai, ty Lil
and Speed Speed hanging out with Brady Kai and Tyler
hanging out with Bron. Uh. Ty Lil could not have
been more excited. And look, Bron cut off Kay's dread.
(05:03):
So was that real? He really did that right? I'll
be honest. I didn't watch the Mafia thon thing, but listen,
pretty cool. Kevin Hart also, who was there when I
met those guys. Kevin Hart goes on their stream everybody's
doing the streamers. I gotta get with it. I said
I was gonna do over the summer. I didn't do it.
I gotta get with it. Seth Curry joins his brother,
(05:24):
and the Warriors love it. I think I called this
six months ago.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Not I think.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I don't know. I think I mentioned that I could
when we were talking about the Warriors offseason, that I
thought Seth would fit well. I honestly though, I think
I just said it, like in passing. Yeah, you know,
we didn't do like a whole thing on it, but
I love that. I think Seth's a really good player
in his role, and I liked the idea of Seth
(05:55):
and Steph being together. I also thought the little viral video,
even if it was miss Lee of the rookies on
the Warriors being nervous to ask Steph for a picture,
was adorable. I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Literal splash brothers.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh, I didn't even think about that. You're right, You're right. Uh,
that's a great time.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Biological splash brothers.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Biological splash brothers love it. And the w NBA commissioner
is going to lose her job. This is you can't
come back from it. And I'm not going to act
like I am an expert on Kathy Ingelbert's tenure at
the head of the league. I am going to say
(06:40):
when a player is good as high profile and maybe
most importantly, as respected as an EFSTA, Collier goes full
ether on you for five minutes in a prepared statement.
Your days are numbered, so the I there are. I
have enough respect for the people that hover and follow
(07:01):
the WNBA every single day and have more expertise on
it than me that I will leave the details or
the detailed opinions on that to them. I don't want
to parachute in on something that I don't feel fully
solid ground on, knowing the full background of her tenure,
the good, the bad, or whatever. But I do know
(07:22):
I feel like I know enough about just business in
general that when one of your admirals goes public on
the record of we have lost faith in the Central Command,
central Command usually has a change. All right, Please like
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(07:47):
I did not think we would be starting with the
Browns third string quarterback. However, because of the last twenty
four hours, and because this show loves itself some meta
media discussion, we are going to start with the Browns
third string quarterback. Go right ahead, pal, No, I'm kidding,
(08:15):
tricked me. Hold on, I was about to say demoni's
Mike's not working. I just want I went to see
if my headset got disconnected. That was really good mouthing
of the words. You totally tricked me. All right, good
job there. I mean that's for watching watching on YouTube.
You got the bit if you're the if you're listening
(08:36):
to us on podcasts, it doesn't really play, but good job.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
All right, go ahead, So Joe Flacco has been benched
and Dylan Gabriel is the new quarterback one and a
shaduur respondence to that news and oppressor and maybe Rex
Ryan with a little bit of meme or miming action
thoughts on this.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Okay, So let me let me give the audience the
very short history of this. Okay. A week ago, Shador
gave a somewhat innocuous but probably poorly worded comment when
he said, you know, I'm paraphrasing, but I think this
(09:17):
is going to be close to an exact quote. You know,
I watched the league, and I'm better than some of
those guys out there starting. I didn't think it was
a huge deal. I think it. I think that one
of the reasons demonse that I thought that comment was
(09:42):
likely to not go great for him was because one
could argue these starting quarterback in the league playing the
worst was his own. You know what. I so if
he had if he was third string for the Bills
(10:02):
and said, you know, I watched the league, and you know,
I feel like I'm better than some of the guys starting.
I think the exact quote was, if you see the
quarterback play in the league right now, I know I'm
capable of doing better than that. Then I think it's
less of a problem. When a lot of people felt
like and feel like the Brown starting quarterback was playing
(10:24):
the worst of everyone in the league, it could have
been construed as an unintentional shot at Flacco. I don't
think it was that at all, but it was just
a little trickier of a spot. Does that part make
sense what I'm describing there?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Okay. Then Rex Ryan goes on TV and makes a
fool of himself, Like every time I see Rex Ryan,
he's just talking about how much someone sucks. It's like
the whole bit it it's that Russell Wilson can't play
(11:02):
dead in the Western It's the end of his career's over.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
People like they're the reason, you know, every problem in
his life that he has.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Like, yeah, it's I don't personally like that his style.
I'm just gonna be transparent on this. I don't I
don't know Rex personally, I'm not I don't want please
awful announcing. Don't make this a nick right offict rates.
I'm not trying to do that. I'm just being honest.
I think Rex like goes on TV. It's like this
(11:32):
guy sucks. This coordinator is an idiot. I do a
better job with that bang I'm out here, and so
I just don't love that. Let me put it, he
would it just it. He would not fit on first
things first, you know what I mean. But I mean
the different styles are different folks, and I wouldn't fit
(11:53):
on other shows whatever. I'm really trying to be kind here,
but but be honest with my opinion pretty clearly. Oh
and one of the things he said. He said two
things that really struck me with the Shadoor commentary. One
was he basically reported that Shadoor is not doing the work.
(12:19):
He was like, get in there and study. If I
know this, the whole league knows this. It's like wow,
like Rex Ryan elbowing schefter off the breaking news beat,
like I hadn't. I had not seen that reported anywhere,
that Shador has been lazy or not paying attention to meetings.
That would be news. But the other thing he said was,
(12:43):
you know, shut up and dribble, Not quite shut up
and dribble, but shut your mouth. So Shadoor yesterday was
asked about Dylan Gabriel being named the starter and about
how he was not elevated to second string, because that's
(13:04):
the other piece of news here. It didn't go flat.
Typically if a veteran quarterback, not always, but I shouldn't
even say typically. Sometimes when a veteran quarterback is benched,
he then goes to the bottom of the depth chart.
He wasn't a veteran. But last year when Bryce Young
(13:24):
got benched for Andy Dalton that first game, Bryce wasn't
the backup, you know what I mean, Like it was
he went all the way down the ladder. And then
so there was an opportunity that it was going to
be Gabriel one, Schador two, Flaco three that ended up
not happening, just Gabriel and Flacco flips your door stayed three.
(13:45):
He was asked about all of this, and he smiled
and in my opinion, looked like he always does, which
is charming, and seemingly talked without talking, moved his mouth,
and I actually wonder if a professional, I wonder if
(14:06):
he was giving real answers, you know what I mean,
Like yeah, I mean he was clearly he wasn't like,
you know, just speaking gibberish. I now, I don't know
if the sentences were, you know, a inaudible. I was told,
you know, on TV, they told me not to talk,
so this is me not talking or I don't know
if it was an inaudible. I'm happy for Dylan to
(14:29):
be getting this opportunity. I'm still working hard. But he
was clearly saying sentences, but they were dead signed. And
the reason I wanted to start the show with it
is because this is just a perfect, just perfect moment
(14:51):
for today's media and social media. Because if you want,
which I don't want to do, to kill Shador, it's
an example of just wanting immaturity. I don't want to
kill Shador. And if you want to blindly support Shador,
(15:20):
the criticism he gets from this will be an example
the kid can't win. He talks and he gets yelled at.
He literally doesn't talk and you kill him anyway. I
don't want to do that either, because I'm not an idiot.
(15:41):
What everyone, every adult has a responsibility to set down
for a moment, their priors and to ask them this
(16:02):
honest question. If Shadoor was your best friend, if he
were your I don't want to say son, because Prime
has I think, not helped him on this. And I'll
get to that in a second. If he were your
godson or your nephew, or you were his high school
(16:24):
guidance counselor who he stayed in touch with, and he
called you up and was like, hey, do you see
what Rex Ryan said about me?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I saw, And you saw that Gabriel's the starter now right, Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I saw.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So when they asked me about it, listen to what
my plan is. I'm gonna answer their questions silently. What
do you You're gonna like write it down? No, I'm
gonna stand in front of the cameras and act like
I'm talking, but not make any sounds. How awesome does that?
(17:05):
How awesome of an idea is that all of us
would say, don't fucking do that, man, It's a bad idea,
fair or not bad idea? Why they's told me I
shouldn't talk. Buddy, here's all you gotta say. Asked about Dylan.
(17:25):
Really happy for Dylan. You know, he and I obviously
same draft class. We've been working together this whole time.
Joe's been great to all of us. You know, it's
coach's choice to make a change, and you know, I'm
Dylan works hard, He's a really good player. I'm excited,
you know, I'm excited to watch him. Well, are you upset?
(17:47):
You know you didn't get bumped up to second string?
You know, do you listen? I I believe in myself.
I'm not gonna lie to you guys and act like
I don't. I believe that I will one day be
a starting quarterback in this But my job right now
is to keep doing what you know, what I've been doing, studying,
working hard, being a good teammate, and hopefully, you know,
(18:10):
we can get back on the winning track this weekend.
That's all you have to do. Everything else is foolishness.
And anyone acting like acknowledging that him doing a bit
(18:36):
in the locker room in front of the media as
the third string quarterback is good for him or smart
or productive is a liar.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's also not the third string quarterback apparently, what do
you mean, Well, it was Joe and then it was Dylan,
and then they moved him down below Joe again.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That he is still third string, Like no, y, yeah, no,
he's yeah, he stayed third He didn't know they listen.
I don't. I don't know how he's looked at practice
(19:20):
at this point. I don't know how he is in
film study. I know that he played one preseason game
looked awesome, played another preseason game looked bad. I like
all of these. So I don't know if in that
building there are different camps, like Stefanski is deeply invested
(19:43):
in Gabriel, but the owner wanted Shador and so I
don't know any of that. I don't None of that
is relevant to this piece of it. Just control what
you can control, Bro. You are not right now getting
(20:04):
the opportunity to show what you can do on the
field publicly, So all you can do is show that
you can be a true professional privately or you know,
(20:25):
in your role as backup quarterback. And this is what
And I did Cam Newton's show a couple days ago,
and Cam has real excuse me, sympathy for Shudor and
Cam feels like a lot of what he det like that.
You know, Cam had a real hard time when he
(20:46):
had to be a backup, and Cam felt his celebrity
and aura worked against him at those things. And I
said this to Cam and I'll expand on it here.
One is, while I respect the I respect folks who
believe Shadoor does have starting caliber talent and traits and
(21:11):
will be a good NFL quarterback. I'm a lot of
people I respect have that opinion and fair no problem.
Cam was talking about him as if Cam and Shadoor
were at all similar prospects. They weren't man like Shadoor
(21:36):
is whether he should have been or not. He's a
fifth round pick. And the other piece of it that
I really wish somebody close to Shador would really explain
(21:58):
to him, as this man you have, maybe it shouldn't
be this way, but it is. You have one of
the only jobs left in modern America where celebrity works
(22:23):
against you in almost every other job. I don't care
what it is. If it's like, hey, I can do
the job well. Also, oddly, I'm very famous on TikTok
that doesn't hurt you, it usually helps you. The only
(22:45):
job where your bosses want you to be as anonymous
as possible is back up NFL quarterback. And now maybe
the the organizations are too stodgy. Maybe that's stuck it.
(23:05):
You know, maybe that'll change. It ain't changing this month.
And I do think we have seen over the course
of these few months some of the reason that once
teams and this was the seminal moment, once he was
(23:30):
not greated as franchise quarterback coming out of the draft
top ten, top fifteen pick, and he was greated as
backup who could one day compete to be a starter,
that his job description changed massively, and he is still
(23:59):
carrying himself as if it hadn't. And I am not
asking for the kid to be humbled. I hate that commentary.
I'm not asking for him to change who he is
at a personal level. I am asking for him to
(24:22):
recognize that this shit works against him and his dad,
who everybody loves. Myself included instagramming in response to this video,
all these laughing emojis and writing good one, son, you
(24:44):
did that is not helpful. Go to Monte go ahead.
I can tell you.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I want to say no. I didn't know that. I
didn't know that happened. But at the end of the day,
you were a one step like I guess, he was
still third on the dead chart, but Joe Flag was
getting bingched. You were a step closer in the direction
that you wanted to be added. So there it was unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It's just and this is what's frustrating to me, And
this is why I wanted to lead the show with it,
because it is a My favorite topics are when sports,
a sports discussion is a microcosm for a bigger, worldwide,
you know, holistic discussion. There are going to be so
(25:30):
many disingenuous fools that today try to act like see
damned if you do, damned if you don't, you tell
him to shut up, and then when he literally does,
you criticize him for that too, as if we we
(25:51):
can't hold multiple thoughts in our head at the same time,
and as if we're not all functioning adults that recognize
this was he was running a bit. He is doing
the forty five seconds to stand up in the locker
room as the third string quarterback, when all you've gotta
(26:12):
do is not not do a single thing that is
going to add to the questions the media is going
to ask Stefanski and then by your time, bro, because
Gabriel is not going to start the last thirteen games.
I don't think he's good enough. Listen, if they are
(26:35):
going to give Gabriel a real opportunity, there's no question
about that. And Gabriel, you know they have a real
investment in him. I just don't think Gabriel's good enough
to run the table the rest of the way. So
he should get a shot. He just has to be
ready for it. I just I I really think he
(26:59):
is getting And people thought that this was patronizing when
I said he's getting bad advice. They're like, he's twenty
three year old, grown man. Shut up. Monsey's twenty seven.
I give Demanse professional advice all the time. I'm forty.
I call my dad for advice on things like the
idea that because right he's almost old enough to rent
(27:23):
a car without paying the extra fee, he's beyond advice.
Is just idiotic, Like, yes, he's allowed now at twenty three,
he's his own man. He can make his own decisions.
He can take the advice and throw it in the garbage.
I and so, but the idea that you shouldn't have
(27:46):
people in your life like, hey, man, that's a mistake.
It's and I really like him. The thing is this,
I think I do think he's charming. I do I
think he's talented. I do think he is well intentioned.
But I think there is a protectionism He right now,
(28:13):
to me, is in a really and they're not a
similar player, but oh he is risking entering the tbow
zone of your biggest fans hurt you where because you
(28:36):
are such a celebrity and because they have more you are.
You are not only a person anymore. You are like
a vessel for their own wants and desires. That that
works against you professionally. And Dion, and the last thing
(28:57):
I'll say is this, and this is where like it's
tough because you see your own kids through a parent's eyes,
you know what I mean, through the and I get
that Dion's gotta recognize, man, you could do this, your
(29:21):
son can't. Why because Dion's one of the greatest players
in the history of the sport and your son is not.
And he doesn't. And you'd be like, well, Dion wasn't
that until no, Dion was. Dion was a Dion going
into the draft was talking about this team better not
(29:42):
draft me or bankrupt the bank like that, Like I
guess what people are like. All right, he might be
a lot to deal with, But did you see the
forty yard dash time? Did you see him locked down
in the side of a field for two years at
Florida State. Deon's like, I might I play baseball too.
They're like, we'll fly you out there, buddy, whatever you want.
(30:05):
Dion had two things going for him that are very
important that you'd ordered not. One is he was a
super superstar on the field, and the other one is
he wasn't a quarterback. Because as great as Dion was,
if he were a quarterbacks instead of a cornerback, it
(30:26):
would have been trickier. And so Cam was a quarterback
and dealt with some of this. But he's the he
had was coming off the single greatest season in the
history of college football, and so like he can I
just I don't know, man, I legit worry that he is.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He's hurt, He's like wounded like all the time. Oh yeah,
feelings are always heard, and I think he kind of
does it not to deal with it sometimes since I
don't know man. But like you know, with that type no.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I think that's a great take the idea that he
is for the first time in his football life consistently
being told yeah, you're not good enough, right right? And
when not only was he not told that before he
was the best player or second best player on every
team he ever played on. Yeah, and so I think
(31:31):
there is something to that. I think the whole thing though,
I just I, oh, that was a mistake, all right.
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Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right, So we're calling this one the right bull.
Your Chiefs go against the Jags on Monday night football.
So thread the needle on how you would kind of
like this game to go for you to come out
on top, because you know, obviously these are both your guys.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Well yes, I mean they are they are my guys.
But this is like, I mean, this is this is
like a Demanse versus Luca situation, my actual son versus
my pretend son and so like, I like, I really
like Trevor, I love Patrick, Like, there's not a this
(34:27):
isn't a what was that Macaulay Culkin movie where the
moms at the cliff? Was it the good Sons? She
has to pick which were the kids? This isn't like
a hard one. Well, one of the kids was evil.
It was really tricky. Doesn't matter, but uh yeah, I
mean no, I'm rooting for the Chiefs to roll. Now.
(34:48):
In a perfect world, they roll, and Trevor looks good,
and the Jags defense has been really good. They have
been really good primarily because they are forcing three turnovers
(35:10):
a game. They have thirteen four turnovers through nine games.
The most interesting thing going on with the Jags right now,
though Demonse, is not Trevor as much as I wish
it was, because he's just not playing that well. Like,
not only is he not the reason they're three to one,
you could argue that if he could have just taken
(35:30):
care of the ball against Cincinnati, they'd be four and
up like the Jags are. If Trevor starts playing better,
the Jags are legit dangerous. The most interesting thing with
the Jags right now is Travis Hunter, and they haven't
figured out how to use him, and right now it's
(35:54):
kind of the worst of both worlds, which is he's
not full time either side of the ball. He's we
thought he would play more than you know, any of
these other first round picks. Instead he's playing less than
some of them, and he's not being super impactful in
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either spot. And so folks that were saying, again it's
been a month. He needs to be full time one
way and a bit player the other way. I think
right now that looks like that was that would have
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been the smarter way to play it through September. Now,
maybe that'll change. But I think for Jacksonville to justify
trading away the fifth pick, a third round pick, and
next year's first round pick to move up for a
non quarterback, it had to be because they thought they
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were getting two players. I thought they were getting two players,
and right now they have just gotten one okay player
on both sides of the ball. So that part, that's
the most interesting part for the Jaguars go ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Do you think that the Chiefs will backslide a little
bit from their progress that they made with Baltimore as
far as the offense.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Listen, I think that the offensive line is getting better
week by week. You now have almost you know, you
now have wide receivers two, three, four, and five. You're
still missing wide receiver one in Rashi Rice Kelsey is
looking better than he looked last year. I think the
offense is going to continue to look good. And the
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Chiefs have averaged their last five games with worthy going
back to last year, averaged twenty eight points per game,
and last year that was with the offensive line kind
of you know, being in shambles to a degree on
the left hand side. I now Jacksonville's defense is obviously
better than Baltimore's. I don't expect the Chiefs to go
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eight straight possessions without a punt like they did against Baltimore.
But I do think Kansas City goes to Jacksonville, handles
their business and then you know, has a hell of
an opportunity on Sunday Night football against the Lions in
the final game without Rashik. But I I don't want
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to get overly excited about Taekwan Thornton, but he's been
good and I'm now looking at Juju's been really solid
in his role, but he just can't move anymore like
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you know what I mean, he just has You know,
I don't know what his forty yard time would be
right now, but it feels like it would be like
four to eight. But he's been a good blocker, he's
been he's in the right place all those things. But
I am starting to think about what this offense is
going to look like when Rashi Rice is in Juju's role.
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Xavier is on one side, and I at this point
I trust Thornton more than I trust Hollywood Brown, and
all of a sudden, you have Thornton as your number three,
Hollywood is your four, Juju is depth, and Kelsey with
all that space in the middle of the field. Now,
that won't be the case obviously this weekend or Monday
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night because Rice isn't back yet. But I think we're
gonna see more from Travis just by virtue of having Thornton,
who's a burner, and Xavier out there that he's gonna
have more space to operate with. They still don't have
a running back. I trust that seventh round rookie Richard's
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We'll see if they incorporate him more. That's the one
spot on the team that I would like to see
them potentially upgrade in the trade market. But I'm I
would be very surprised if Kansas City can't go to
Jacksonville and figure out how to get a win against
a really good Jags team. Now, if the Jags win,
(40:23):
Jags are four and one, you got to really take
them seriously. But I don't think they're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Go ahead, who do you who's the weak link on
the Jags right now? Would you say that's Trevor Lawrence?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I mean, he's playing I don't think he is, but
he is playing like it at the end's been good.
Now that Brian Thomas Junior's been disappointed as well, and
then that he's had a lot of drops, the defense
has been great. Like, Trevor's got to be better, There's
no way around it. I fair is fair, Trevor's got
to be better. All right, Let's go to tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
So party is out for tonight's game. He's still dealing
with the turf too injury. With Perty's last game, he
threw two picks, he had a fumble Mac Jones, and
his two games is undefeated. So is it going to
be on that situation? Do you think the forty nine
ers have a chance tonight, And how concern should the
forty nine ers be about Brod Perty's health.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I do not think the forty nine ers have a
chance tonight. I think the Rams are excellent, and I
would be hugely concerned about Perty's health. I would also
be furious with my medical staff. Once again, if I'm
the Niners, I it's not like the NFL spinds a
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wheel to determine who's playing Thursday night each week. You
if you're the Niners, you knew that you were playing
Thursday this week. Purty clearly was not one hundred percent
this past Sunday. They let him play anyway, the injury
(42:02):
got worse. He now is definitively going to miss this game,
and he's not even healthy enough to be like the
emergency quarterback for them and could miss more time. I
don't understand, especially because they did go to a zero
with mac Jones, how they don't hold party out demanse
(42:25):
this past Sunday and then he gets four extra days
before he would be playing against the Rams to heal
up that toe, and then ten days before the next game.
You know you could get you could have eased him
back in three games off and then he plays the Rams,
(42:46):
then a mini buy before they play the next week. Now,
this is probably gonna be a problem all year, which
brings me to the bigger party conversation. Man I, I
said all off season, why would you be in a
(43:10):
rush to pay this player? He struggle at his worst
year yet last year has dealt with some injuries and
has no leverage whatsoever. Just wait and see. They gave
(43:34):
him fifty what three million dollars a year and now
like it has been four games into the contract, if
they could wipe it away, would they? Of course? And
I know that there is it felt unfair because he
(44:00):
had made no money at all as the final pick
of the draft, and they had been to a Super
Bowl and been to a conference championship game and two
of his years he had played really well. But you're
not in the fairness business. You're in the football business.
And the other had they not paid him? And then this,
(44:25):
you know, we see this opening month of the season.
It's like, oh, Mac Jones, who is basically on the minimum,
can be dropped into this offense without all the weapons
and it can function. Are we better off spending our
money elsewhere? We like? Do we need a fifty million
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dollars a year quarterback unless he's a true difference maker.
And that's That's the other piece of this is we
have so much evidence that that Shanahan system is relatively
quarterback proof. Now, listen, parties, A healthy party is better
(45:11):
than mac and raises your ceiling. But does he raise
your ceiling more than having three separate Pro Bowl level
players that you could get with fifty million dollars a year.
I don't know that he does, so I have been
There are very few opinions that have spanned the course
(45:32):
of five six years that have aged better than my
I do not believe the Niners quarterback is as good
as his numbers suggest. It's about Shanahan, the weapons and
the system then that take. But once again, I think
that takes going to age quite well. It also should
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be noted because people are putting out there the Niners
wide receivers of her room, and I'm like, oh, I
recognize those guys. Patrick Mahomes won Super Bowls with him,
DeMarcus Robinson, sky Moore, Mark wes Valdez, Scantling. What do
you expect anyone to do? I don't know. Patrick Mahomes
won Super Bowl. So like the there is that, all right?
(46:16):
I know you want to ask me about Pooka.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Uh yes, where would you rank him among amongst wide receivers.
He's number one in yards receptions and yards by.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
A lot, by a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Stafford loves him.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
He's on pace demons through sixteen games, not even seventeen
game season, for more than one hundred and sixty catches
in the first ever two thousand yard season. So here
is all right, Here is the It's weird to say
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he has almost an ironclad case that he should be
in consideration as the best receiver in the NFL. Yet
I cannot wrap my mind around the idea that he's
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better than Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. And I feel
like he could have a two thousand yard season and
I still would not be able to wrap my mind
around it. But you know, he's doing it with not
great quarterback play. He's doing it under I shouldn't say
he's not great quarterback play. He's doing it when he's
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not fully healthy. He's been able to just do it.
And it's I think he's playing at a higher level
than Cooper Cup did. And so some of that is,
you know, when we saw Cooper Cup do it. Now
we're saying Pooka do it. Stafford and McVeigh get some
of the credit. But Puk is an unbelievable player. He
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is really an unbelievable player, and he's certainly demons has
to be in your top five. Certainly. I still think
Jefferson is the best receiver in football, but man, Pouk
is an unbelievable player.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
He does an unbelievable It seems like a solid teammate
as well. I mean, oh yeah, Jefferson as well. But
you know, yeah, but he doesn't. It doesn't seem like
he has the.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Like wide receiver curse. But it also helps that he
gets fifteen targets a game. I think all these series
will be pretty happy with you know what I mean
with with those types of targets. All right, let's talk
Houston Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
So I banged up Ravens are playing the lowly Texans.
These guys are both one and three. Who's this a
big game for? That means?
Speaker 1 (48:55):
All right? So first of all, let me say that
I think there is a chance lamars Uh rap Aboard
seemed to open the door to it. The only person
to slam the door shut on it was a Baltimore
Sun reporter, so I think there's a chance he plays.
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I also think even if he doesn't play, Demonse, you
guys could win like Houston. If Houston's offense has been
dreadful for fifteen of the sixteen quarters this year, fourth
quarter against Tennessee they started scoring, but that game was
(49:36):
six nothing, six nothing, either late in the third or
going into the fourth, and then Houston rolled up some touchdowns.
Now maybe that's some momentum. Maybe, Like I said at
the top of the show, they were working through things,
new offensive coordinator, all that, but they have looked shaky.
So I think the game is more important for the
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Texans because of this. If they lose, they're just flat
bad if you especially if you can't beat the Ravens.
When going into this game, unlike the Chiefs game, Chiefs game,
they went in without force defensive starters. This game, they'd
be going in without seven and no Lamar. Then who
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the hell you beating? You can't beat a team who's
got a terrible defense and their MVP quarterbacks out, then
where other than the Titans? Like, who are you beating?
I also one of the reasons that I am, you know,
not going to abandon the Ravens even if they lose.
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Is I don't fully trust the Steelers yet, and I
still think the Steelers could have a four game losing
streak in them and open that division up. So and
I do believe that when Lamar's out there, the Ravens
have one of the best offenses in the league during
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the regular season, and I think they will continue to so.
But the more disappointing start to the season is Baltimore.
The more trouble for either team is Houston. Let me
ask you this, if Lamar loses, if Lamar misses the
next two weeks, yeah, because they have the Texans, the Rams,
(51:24):
and then the bye and they are one in five.
If he misses and they lose, do you think it's
that's a rap for them or go ahead?
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Or it's pretty close. I mean I think it's close.
I do like the Steelers being the top dogs right now, though,
because I have no faith in Ar. I watch a
lot of his Like when things are going good, he
loves it, but the second one thing goes bad, I mean,
just like a receiver missing something, he's pissed. So if
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they start losing the game. If they lose two games
in a row one game, I think it's just gonna
stack on top of it, on top of itself.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
I also, so I tend to agree with you here's
but let's just say they're one in five, If the
Ravens are one and five, that the division's out of reach,
and let's just do a play. Yeah, so the Bills
are going to be in under this scenario, we're saying,
the Steelers are going to be in. We're gonna put
(52:29):
the Chiefs and the Chargers in. Okay, And obviously let's
just say the Colts keep doing what they're doing and
they're in those five teams. Did I leave Bills, Steelers, Yeah, Chiefs,
Chargers Okay. So that will then leave two playoff spots.
(52:57):
The Jags, the Patriots, the Broncos would be the leading contenders.
Do we think the Ravens could run two of those
teams down even at starting one in five if Lamar
(53:18):
comes back from the bye fully healthy. My answer to
that is yeah, I think they could. Like I would
not right off Baltimore because like.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
As Well, softens up a lot after the Rams, so
to speak.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Well, it's really interesting. The So I think they have
a brutal December, but a very soft ento October November.
So if you're the Ravens again, if we just play
this out and I think they are going to win
this weekend, Okay, so this at two and four, I
(53:56):
think they'd be fine. But if they're one in five,
you are after the bye home for Chicago, at Miami,
at Minnesota, at Cleveland, home for the Jets, home for
Senci Baltimore. Absolutely, if Lamar comes back healthy, can go
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six and zero in that stretch. Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets, Bengals.
I know that the defense has been bad, but the
quarterbacks being Caleb who I think is good, then Tua,
whoever's starting for Minnesota, whoever starting for Cleveland, justin Field's
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Jake Browning, you should be able to go six and up.
If you could do that at one in five, you'd
be seven and five going into what I think is
a brutal final five games home for Pittsburgh, who gives
you trouble year at Cincinnati, not terrible home for New England,
(55:05):
tough at green Bay at Pittsburgh. If you get to
seven and five, you probably just have to go three
and two in those final five to get to your
ten wins and sneak into the playoffs. Yeah, and potentially
(55:30):
you know, have the head to head tie breaker with
New England like that game December twenty first against New
England could be a huge one. Obviously, the Steeler games
are so I won't point that I'm making as this.
Even if they go one and five, I won't write
them off. And if they go two and four, I
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think they'll be fine. Obviously they will need Lamar to
be full on Lamar, but Lamar was utterly sensation through
the first three games of the year, like I do.
The bright side to my take being it's all in
Lamar's head that he's just not like a playoffer against
(56:13):
the Chiefs type of performer is. It's not like, oh,
he's in a slump like I think the moment he
gets back, he's just kicking ass again. Yeah, all right,
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(56:57):
on baseball before we get to the questions from Tuesday
that we didn't get to, and also reminder everybody we
do have the gambling show coming out Friday morning with
our picks. Go ahead, pal uh So.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
The MLB playoffs are underway. The Yankees sign up to
this series with the Red Sox, the Dodgers advanced, and
two more wildcard series will wrap up today. What do
you have your eye on in this baseball postseason?
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Listen? I hope the Yankees win because I want to
be able to maybe do some shows from Yankee Stadium again.
It was so much fun. That was a great Yankee
win last night, and Jazz Chisholm, who was not happy
with his usage in Game one, saved the game for him.
He made an unbelievable diving stop at second base late
(57:46):
in the game and then scored from first the winning run,
so that you know, I am rooting for the Yankees tonight.
The pitching matchup for the Yankees tonight is the of
Schlitzler on the mound, and the Socks have Connelly early
on the mound. The Yankees are a slight favorite. The
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Dodgers annihilated the Reds. That's good for baseball. Sorry for Cincinnati,
but that's good for baseball. That's exciting. Tigers guardians, I am.
I don't know who I'm rooting for, because the Tigers
kind of deserve to just have this whole thing fall
(58:30):
apart on them because they've had such a his story. Yeah,
fourteen game lead and then Cleveland ended up winning the division.
I that game's a coin flip to me. And then
Padres Cubs. It's better for baseball in theory for the
(58:52):
brand of the Cubs, but the Padres have so many
stars and you Darvish on the Mountain, and the Padres
were my preseason pick to you know, make the World
Series out of the NL. I would be rooting for
the Padres either way. We're gonna have sick Divisional round
(59:18):
because we are. We're going to get Dodgers Phillies in
the NL, which is unbelievable. And then the Brewers are
waiting for either the Padres or the Cubs, and in
the AL we're getting either Blue Jays Yankees or Blue
Jay's Red Sox, a nice Al East battle, and then
the Mariners waiting for the Tigers of the Guardians. Kind
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of feels like Mariners Guardians would be awesome because they
both finished the year so red hot and Blue Jays Yanks.
So you know what, No, I'm not gonna bet it
because I haven't studied any of this, but I am
going to go ahead and say I am rooting for
the Guardians over the Tigers, the Yankees over the Red Sox,
(01:00:05):
and the Padres over the Cubs. Uh. So we get Brewers, Padres, Dodgers,
Phillies already locked, Blue Jays Yankees, and Mariners Guardians. That's
that's what I'm pulling for, all right, Demanse, Let's get
to some of these questions before we get to our
gambling show, which will come out tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
So everybody in the chat on Tuesday was asking about
how the Ryder Cup went.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
I really enjoyed going. I had a great time. I
don't want to spend two more time on it. Eagle
fans are out of their mind. They're out of their mind.
And the I I actually had to I should I
(01:00:52):
tell this story? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Whatever? Who cares?
Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
So I was just getting I was getting the Rory
mcelroyd treatment from Eagle fans the whole day. And these
are just like drunk finance guys in golf shirts and
so whatever. Fine, late in the day's Saturday, I'm walking
(01:01:17):
to find hubs because I went with Danny and Hubbs,
and there's a long line of people trying to get
beer and I'm about forty feet from it. And again
we're at a golf tournament. Man, and I hear, hey,
nick right few but they didn't say f and I'm like,
(01:01:42):
you know what, not okay? And I and I could
see who it was deep in the beer line, and
I'm like, we're gonna go have a chat. And so
I'm I walked. I started walking his way, and his
friends were like tap or whatever. But again, demons, this
guy is not your age. This guy is my age.
(01:02:05):
And uh. And I walk over to him and I
do what I always do in these situations, which is
I clasp my hands behind my back, like because I'm
like this guy's drunk and like whatever, Like I don't
want him to think like I'm coming over there to
like fight, but you're gonna have no no, no, no,
(01:02:25):
I was not. And as soon as I get within
ten feet he does one of these. He's like, hey man,
I'm sorry. I actually like the show. I'm just and
I'm like and I'm like, no, no, He's like what.
I'm like, buddy, we're adults at a golf tournament. Not cool.
(01:02:48):
And his friends were like, yeah, man, sorry, and he's
like he's like and so he tries to shake my hand.
I'm like, I'm not shaking your hand, man, but I
also am gonna need an apology, and and he's like
and he's like what. And his friends, who were mortified,
were like, hey man, just apologic. And I'm like, I'm
(01:03:11):
going to need an apology. And at this point, again,
it's like a three hundred person beer line, right, everybody's
looking and he's like, he's like, I'm sorry, man, I'm
like thank you, And then he tried to shake my
hand again. I'm like, I'm not shaking your bleep in
hand and then went and found Hubes. I couldn't take
(01:03:31):
it anymore. A great time in the Ryder Cup. But
I just didn't come on man like, buddy, you work
it at you trade stocks for a living or something,
trying to be Tommy tough guy at a golf tournament
wearing khakis in a Polo Ryder Cup shirt.
Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
All right, next, man, he's sorry, He's sorry? Uh dead ass?
Is the tattoo real? Nick?
Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
The never a doubt tattoo that I never know how
to show on camera. I still haven't figured it out.
See that that tattoo is real. The tackle Tide tattoo
was temporary. That was a I will tell a story
about that though. I went to the tattoo shop to
get them to do the stencil yeah, and then draw
(01:04:18):
it on for the bit for the show that The
lady there was like, yeah, I can do it, but
I just have to charge you the same price as
if I gave you the actual tattoo.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
And I'm like, okay, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
So the stencil am I am? I tripping? Isn't the
like print it out and then you put it on
your arm you like, it's like basically like one of
those things you'd put a quarter in a machine to
get a little thing.
Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
And then she got a sharpie and drew on the
stencil and it was one hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I would have drawn it on myself.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I wanted it to look good. Also, I kind of
played myself because she hadn't quoted me a price. And
then I walked up to the thing to pay and
I and I had a debit card and her credit card.
She was like, we're cash only, and I'm like, okay,
(01:05:19):
no problem. And I again, I'm not trying to sound
like a big shot, but I walk around with it
because I'm a gambler. I just walk around with a
lot of cash, you know, like a lot of money.
I always have it on me. And so I she
still hadn't told me a price, and I reach in
my pocket and I just grabbed my cash and it's
(01:05:41):
I don't know, it's probably two grand and hundreds and
she's and I see her see it. I'm like, oh,
I'm getting so played here now. I was like, there's
no and so and so she was like, well, like,
the least we're allowed to charge is one hundred dollars,
and I'm like okay. I was like, then, I guess
it's a hundred bucks and so yeah. And so then
(01:06:06):
I'm like, so I gave her, I gave her two hundreds,
and I'm like, hey, can I just have change for
this one for your tip? She's like, oh yeah, thank you.
And then she's like, we don't have a change. She
was like, we don't. I can't. She's like, I don't
have change. We've just opened. And I'm like, oh, okay,
(01:06:28):
and I and I'm thinking she's gonna be like, but
the hundred's fine, Like I'm just drawing the tackle that
turned the tide.
Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
On your arm.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Yeah, and she goes, you can zell me.
Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Just whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I like, all right, whatever, she was a nice lady,
so I zeld her or I've been motor fifty bucks.
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
So yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
The whatever, it was good for the bit. It's a
good bit for TV. All right, let's get to some
of the Thursday questions.
Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Uh As Sean says, Nick, can you explain why nobody
is dogging on Justin Herbert for losing to the Giants.
I've not heard a lot about.
Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Because people don't actually just listen. I don't think people
care quite enough about Justin Herbert. I also think he
had been playing quite well prior to that game. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
So like now guys have a solid defense.
Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Yeah and so, and that was more about Jackson Dart
whatever it is, all right?
Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Next, uh h J says Hi Nick, and demon's are
you concerned by the already mounting number of serious injuries?
Is it just me? Or is it notably bad this season?
Lots of marquee players too.
Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I actually think it's just you. I I but like
I think it's the turf in met life could be
a problem. But I think it's like this every year.
And I think every year we're like, damn, so many
guys are hurt, like it's a brutal, brutal game.
Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Next, Eclipse asked two part question. Is Zach Taylor on
the hot seat or does he get a pass for
the Burro injury? And what do you think about Trey
Lance to the Bengels.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
I mentioned Trey Lance and the Bengals off the air yesterday.
I do think the Bengals should trade for either Kirk
Cousins or Jameis Winston. And I would like, again, let's
say that Lamar misses time and they do fall to
one in five, and what we're talking about the Steelers happens.
You know, they like that division. They're two and two. Yeah,
(01:08:24):
and Browning's just been brutal, just been brutal. All right.
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as he's three and one on the air. My picks
are right now decidedly mediocre. Haven't had a terrible week yet,
haven't had a great week yet, but we keep hitting
(01:08:47):
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And there, you know, we are now to where teams
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season is done. You know, Devonte didn't used to be
like this. I'm gonna sound like it. I'm gonna sound
like an old man here, and I might sound like
an old man with the Shadoor conversation. This first one, though,
is not about like taste. It's just reality that post
twenty eleven lockout, when they really changed the rules on
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what you can and can't do in the offseason, end
in training camp, and then later on when they removed
one of the four preseason games even less pad practices,
added a seventeenth regular season game, September really became not
quite an extended preseason, but similar to that in a
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way it didn't used to be. And so teams use
September now to kind of try to figure out who
they are and get you know, get so they are
rolling by October, when in the past that's literally what
the preseason was. Starters played a lot big time players
played a lot, they had had a bunch of hard
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to a day practices, and so it makes handicapping the
league the first few weeks of the season a little
more difficult because teams really do change over the course
of the year. But now we're in October, and now
you kind of not are who you are, but you're
a lot closer to your final form. And the hope
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is that you didn't dig yourself to big of a
hole in September, and so that the two teams that
we thought could be legit certainly playoff and in one
of their cases championship contenders who dug quite a big hole,
are playing each other this weekend in Baltimore and Houston.
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Those are the two teams that didn't survive September at
least five hundred, and now they are their backs are
against the wall a bit. Obviously, other teams, like the
Niners dealing with injuries or the Bengals dealing with Burrow
being out, are in different spots. But from a record perspective,
but I think we're gonna start seeing really good football.
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And we've seen some good football, but really good football
starting that is starting probably not tonight, but this weekend
and that I'm excited for.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
How are you doing this morning, I'm doing pretty good, Pops.
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'm doing well. This has been an interesting week because,
as expected, there are corners of the Internet and corners
of the corners and sections of my colleagues that are
(03:16):
I don't even think mad at me is the right word, like,
just openly, I don't know if mocking is the right word.
Something very they're nonplussed about some of my Lamar commentary
the last seventy two hours, and this is an annual
tradition and the only part of it that I actually
(03:38):
have been not irked, but yeah, ir well, not even
hit home, just annoyed. I guess the right word is
folks saying it's a straw man that people don't acknowledge
Lamar's big game or postseason struggles. I'm like, it is
(03:59):
because does all of you picked the Ravens to win
the Super Bowl every year? So that it feels like
that kind of fails to acknowledge it. But I'm not
doing Lamar today. I mean, we will do a little
Ravens because I do think there's a chance he plays.
I think there is a chance he should so I
(04:20):
and I think they could win with with Cooper Rush,
and that's not it's not an just if you just
run Dereck Henry thirty five times, I think you can
beat up flailing Texans team. But we'll get to that first.
We have to get to what we're not going to
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along with ty Lill. Big weekend for those threes, those
streamer guys that I got to spend a little bit
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and Speed Speed hanging out with Brady Kai and Tyler
hanging out with Bron. Uh. Ty Lil could not have
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So was that real? He really did that right? I'll
be honest. I didn't watch the Mafia thon thing, but listen,
pretty cool. Kevin Hart also, who was there when I
met those guys. Kevin Hart goes on their stream everybody's
doing the streamers. I gotta get with it. I said
I was gonna do over the summer. I didn't do it.
I gotta get with it. Seth Curry joins his brother,
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and the Warriors love it. I think I called this
six months ago.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Not I think.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I don't know. I think I mentioned that I could
when we were talking about the Warriors offseason, that I
thought Seth would fit well. I honestly though, I think
I just said it, like in passing. Yeah, you know,
we didn't do like a whole thing on it, but
I love that. I think Seth's a really good player
in his role, and I liked the idea of Seth
(05:55):
and Steph being together. I also thought the little viral video,
even if it was miss Lee of the rookies on
the Warriors being nervous to ask Steph for a picture,
was adorable. I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Literal splash brothers.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh, I didn't even think about that. You're right, You're right. Uh,
that's a great time.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Biological splash brothers.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Biological splash brothers love it. And the w NBA commissioner
is going to lose her job. This is you can't
come back from it. And I'm not going to act
like I am an expert on Kathy Ingelbert's tenure at
the head of the league. I am going to say
(06:40):
when a player is good as high profile and maybe
most importantly, as respected as an EFSTA, Collier goes full
ether on you for five minutes in a prepared statement.
Your days are numbered, so the I there are. I
have enough respect for the people that hover and follow
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the WNBA every single day and have more expertise on
it than me that I will leave the details or
the detailed opinions on that to them. I don't want
to parachute in on something that I don't feel fully
solid ground on, knowing the full background of her tenure,
the good, the bad, or whatever. But I do know
(07:22):
I feel like I know enough about just business in
general that when one of your admirals goes public on
the record of we have lost faith in the Central Command,
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I did not think we would be starting with the
Browns third string quarterback. However, because of the last twenty
four hours, and because this show loves itself some meta
media discussion, we are going to start with the Browns
third string quarterback. Go right ahead, pal, No, I'm kidding,
(08:15):
tricked me. Hold on, I was about to say demoni's
Mike's not working. I just want I went to see
if my headset got disconnected. That was really good mouthing
of the words. You totally tricked me. All right, good
job there. I mean that's for watching watching on YouTube.
You got the bit if you're the if you're listening
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to us on podcasts, it doesn't really play, but good job.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
All right, go ahead, So Joe Flacco has been benched
and Dylan Gabriel is the new quarterback one and a
shaduur respondence to that news and oppressor and maybe Rex
Ryan with a little bit of meme or miming action
thoughts on this.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Okay, So let me let me give the audience the
very short history of this. Okay. A week ago, Shador
gave a somewhat innocuous but probably poorly worded comment when
he said, you know, I'm paraphrasing, but I think this
(09:17):
is going to be close to an exact quote. You know,
I watched the league, and I'm better than some of
those guys out there starting. I didn't think it was
a huge deal. I think it. I think that one
of the reasons demonse that I thought that comment was
(09:42):
likely to not go great for him was because one
could argue these starting quarterback in the league playing the
worst was his own. You know what. I so if
he had if he was third string for the Bills
(10:02):
and said, you know, I watched the league, and you know,
I feel like I'm better than some of the guys starting.
I think the exact quote was, if you see the
quarterback play in the league right now, I know I'm
capable of doing better than that. Then I think it's
less of a problem. When a lot of people felt
like and feel like the Brown starting quarterback was playing
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the worst of everyone in the league, it could have
been construed as an unintentional shot at Flacco. I don't
think it was that at all, but it was just
a little trickier of a spot. Does that part make
sense what I'm describing there?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Okay. Then Rex Ryan goes on TV and makes a
fool of himself, Like every time I see Rex Ryan,
he's just talking about how much someone sucks. It's like
the whole bit it it's that Russell Wilson can't play
(11:02):
dead in the Western It's the end of his career's over.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
People like they're the reason, you know, every problem in
his life that he has.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Like, yeah, it's I don't personally like that his style.
I'm just gonna be transparent on this. I don't I
don't know Rex personally, I'm not I don't want please
awful announcing. Don't make this a nick right offict rates.
I'm not trying to do that. I'm just being honest.
I think Rex like goes on TV. It's like this
(11:32):
guy sucks. This coordinator is an idiot. I do a
better job with that bang I'm out here, and so
I just don't love that. Let me put it, he
would it just it. He would not fit on first
things first, you know what I mean. But I mean
the different styles are different folks, and I wouldn't fit
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on other shows whatever. I'm really trying to be kind here,
but but be honest with my opinion pretty clearly. Oh
and one of the things he said. He said two
things that really struck me with the Shadoor commentary. One
was he basically reported that Shadoor is not doing the work.
(12:19):
He was like, get in there and study. If I
know this, the whole league knows this. It's like wow,
like Rex Ryan elbowing schefter off the breaking news beat,
like I hadn't. I had not seen that reported anywhere,
that Shador has been lazy or not paying attention to meetings.
That would be news. But the other thing he said was,
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you know, shut up and dribble, Not quite shut up
and dribble, but shut your mouth. So Shadoor yesterday was
asked about Dylan Gabriel being named the starter and about
how he was not elevated to second string, because that's
(13:04):
the other piece of news here. It didn't go flat.
Typically if a veteran quarterback, not always, but I shouldn't
even say typically. Sometimes when a veteran quarterback is benched,
he then goes to the bottom of the depth chart.
He wasn't a veteran. But last year when Bryce Young
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got benched for Andy Dalton that first game, Bryce wasn't
the backup, you know what I mean, Like it was
he went all the way down the ladder. And then
so there was an opportunity that it was going to
be Gabriel one, Schador two, Flaco three that ended up
not happening, just Gabriel and Flacco flips your door stayed three.
(13:45):
He was asked about all of this, and he smiled
and in my opinion, looked like he always does, which
is charming, and seemingly talked without talking, moved his mouth,
and I actually wonder if a professional, I wonder if
(14:06):
he was giving real answers, you know what I mean,
Like yeah, I mean he was clearly he wasn't like,
you know, just speaking gibberish. I now, I don't know
if the sentences were, you know, a inaudible. I was told,
you know, on TV, they told me not to talk,
so this is me not talking or I don't know
if it was an inaudible. I'm happy for Dylan to
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be getting this opportunity. I'm still working hard. But he
was clearly saying sentences, but they were dead signed. And
the reason I wanted to start the show with it
is because this is just a perfect, just perfect moment
(14:51):
for today's media and social media. Because if you want,
which I don't want to do, to kill Shador, it's
an example of just wanting immaturity. I don't want to
kill Shador. And if you want to blindly support Shador,
(15:20):
the criticism he gets from this will be an example
the kid can't win. He talks and he gets yelled at.
He literally doesn't talk and you kill him anyway. I
don't want to do that either, because I'm not an idiot.
(15:41):
What everyone, every adult has a responsibility to set down
for a moment, their priors and to ask them this
(16:02):
honest question. If Shadoor was your best friend, if he
were your I don't want to say son, because Prime
has I think, not helped him on this. And I'll
get to that in a second. If he were your
godson or your nephew, or you were his high school
(16:24):
guidance counselor who he stayed in touch with, and he
called you up and was like, hey, do you see
what Rex Ryan said about me?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I saw, And you saw that Gabriel's the starter now right, Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I saw.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So when they asked me about it, listen to what
my plan is. I'm gonna answer their questions silently. What
do you You're gonna like write it down? No, I'm
gonna stand in front of the cameras and act like
I'm talking, but not make any sounds. How awesome does that?
(17:05):
How awesome of an idea is that all of us
would say, don't fucking do that, man, It's a bad idea,
fair or not bad idea? Why they's told me I
shouldn't talk. Buddy, here's all you gotta say. Asked about Dylan.
(17:25):
Really happy for Dylan. You know, he and I obviously
same draft class. We've been working together this whole time.
Joe's been great to all of us. You know, it's
coach's choice to make a change, and you know, I'm
Dylan works hard, He's a really good player. I'm excited,
you know, I'm excited to watch him. Well, are you upset?
(17:47):
You know you didn't get bumped up to second string?
You know, do you listen? I I believe in myself.
I'm not gonna lie to you guys and act like
I don't. I believe that I will one day be
a starting quarterback in this But my job right now
is to keep doing what you know, what I've been doing, studying,
working hard, being a good teammate, and hopefully, you know,
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we can get back on the winning track this weekend.
That's all you have to do. Everything else is foolishness.
And anyone acting like acknowledging that him doing a bit
(18:36):
in the locker room in front of the media as
the third string quarterback is good for him or smart
or productive is a liar.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's also not the third string quarterback apparently, what do
you mean, Well, it was Joe and then it was Dylan,
and then they moved him down below Joe again.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That he is still third string, Like no, y, yeah, no,
he's yeah, he stayed third He didn't know they listen.
I don't. I don't know how he's looked at practice
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at this point. I don't know how he is in
film study. I know that he played one preseason game
looked awesome, played another preseason game looked bad. I like
all of these. So I don't know if in that
building there are different camps, like Stefanski is deeply invested
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in Gabriel, but the owner wanted Shador and so I
don't know any of that. I don't None of that
is relevant to this piece of it. Just control what
you can control, Bro. You are not right now getting
(20:04):
the opportunity to show what you can do on the
field publicly, So all you can do is show that
you can be a true professional privately or you know,
(20:25):
in your role as backup quarterback. And this is what
And I did Cam Newton's show a couple days ago,
and Cam has real excuse me, sympathy for Shudor and
Cam feels like a lot of what he det like that.
You know, Cam had a real hard time when he
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had to be a backup, and Cam felt his celebrity
and aura worked against him at those things. And I
said this to Cam and I'll expand on it here.
One is, while I respect the I respect folks who
believe Shadoor does have starting caliber talent and traits and
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will be a good NFL quarterback. I'm a lot of
people I respect have that opinion and fair no problem.
Cam was talking about him as if Cam and Shadoor
were at all similar prospects. They weren't man like Shadoor
(21:36):
is whether he should have been or not. He's a
fifth round pick. And the other piece of it that
I really wish somebody close to Shador would really explain
(21:58):
to him, as this man you have, maybe it shouldn't
be this way, but it is. You have one of
the only jobs left in modern America where celebrity works
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against you in almost every other job. I don't care
what it is. If it's like, hey, I can do
the job well. Also, oddly, I'm very famous on TikTok
that doesn't hurt you, it usually helps you. The only
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job where your bosses want you to be as anonymous
as possible is back up NFL quarterback. And now maybe
the the organizations are too stodgy. Maybe that's stuck it.
(23:05):
You know, maybe that'll change. It ain't changing this month.
And I do think we have seen over the course
of these few months some of the reason that once
teams and this was the seminal moment, once he was
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not greated as franchise quarterback coming out of the draft
top ten, top fifteen pick, and he was greated as
backup who could one day compete to be a starter,
that his job description changed massively, and he is still
(23:59):
carrying himself as if it hadn't. And I am not
asking for the kid to be humbled. I hate that commentary.
I'm not asking for him to change who he is
at a personal level. I am asking for him to
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recognize that this shit works against him and his dad,
who everybody loves. Myself included instagramming in response to this video,
all these laughing emojis and writing good one, son, you
(24:44):
did that is not helpful. Go to Monte go ahead.
I can tell you.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I want to say no. I didn't know that. I
didn't know that happened. But at the end of the day,
you were a one step like I guess, he was
still third on the dead chart, but Joe Flag was
getting bingched. You were a step closer in the direction
that you wanted to be added. So there it was unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It's just and this is what's frustrating to me, And
this is why I wanted to lead the show with it,
because it is a My favorite topics are when sports,
a sports discussion is a microcosm for a bigger, worldwide,
you know, holistic discussion. There are going to be so
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many disingenuous fools that today try to act like see
damned if you do, damned if you don't, you tell
him to shut up, and then when he literally does,
you criticize him for that too, as if we we
(25:51):
can't hold multiple thoughts in our head at the same time,
and as if we're not all functioning adults that recognize
this was he was running a bit. He is doing
the forty five seconds to stand up in the locker
room as the third string quarterback, when all you've gotta
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do is not not do a single thing that is
going to add to the questions the media is going
to ask Stefanski and then by your time, bro, because
Gabriel is not going to start the last thirteen games.
I don't think he's good enough. Listen, if they are
(26:35):
going to give Gabriel a real opportunity, there's no question
about that. And Gabriel, you know they have a real
investment in him. I just don't think Gabriel's good enough
to run the table the rest of the way. So
he should get a shot. He just has to be
ready for it. I just I I really think he
(26:59):
is getting And people thought that this was patronizing when
I said he's getting bad advice. They're like, he's twenty
three year old, grown man. Shut up. Monsey's twenty seven.
I give Demanse professional advice all the time. I'm forty.
I call my dad for advice on things like the
idea that because right he's almost old enough to rent
(27:23):
a car without paying the extra fee, he's beyond advice.
Is just idiotic, Like, yes, he's allowed now at twenty three,
he's his own man. He can make his own decisions.
He can take the advice and throw it in the garbage.
I and so, but the idea that you shouldn't have
(27:46):
people in your life like, hey, man, that's a mistake.
It's and I really like him. The thing is this,
I think I do think he's charming. I do I
think he's talented. I do think he is well intentioned.
But I think there is a protectionism He right now,
(28:13):
to me, is in a really and they're not a
similar player, but oh he is risking entering the tbow
zone of your biggest fans hurt you where because you
(28:36):
are such a celebrity and because they have more you are.
You are not only a person anymore. You are like
a vessel for their own wants and desires. That that
works against you professionally. And Dion, and the last thing
(28:57):
I'll say is this, and this is where like it's
tough because you see your own kids through a parent's eyes,
you know what I mean, through the and I get
that Dion's gotta recognize, man, you could do this, your
(29:21):
son can't. Why because Dion's one of the greatest players
in the history of the sport and your son is not.
And he doesn't. And you'd be like, well, Dion wasn't
that until no, Dion was. Dion was a Dion going
into the draft was talking about this team better not
(29:42):
draft me or bankrupt the bank like that, Like I
guess what people are like. All right, he might be
a lot to deal with, But did you see the
forty yard dash time? Did you see him locked down
in the side of a field for two years at
Florida State. Deon's like, I might I play baseball too.
They're like, we'll fly you out there, buddy, whatever you want.
(30:05):
Dion had two things going for him that are very
important that you'd ordered not. One is he was a
super superstar on the field, and the other one is
he wasn't a quarterback. Because as great as Dion was,
if he were a quarterbacks instead of a cornerback, it
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would have been trickier. And so Cam was a quarterback
and dealt with some of this. But he's the he
had was coming off the single greatest season in the
history of college football, and so like he can I
just I don't know, man, I legit worry that he is.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He's hurt, He's like wounded like all the time. Oh yeah,
feelings are always heard, and I think he kind of
does it not to deal with it sometimes since I
don't know man. But like you know, with that type no.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I think that's a great take the idea that he
is for the first time in his football life consistently
being told yeah, you're not good enough, right right? And
when not only was he not told that before he
was the best player or second best player on every
team he ever played on. Yeah, and so I think
(31:31):
there is something to that. I think the whole thing though,
I just I, oh, that was a mistake, all right.
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Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right, So we're calling this one the right bull.
Your Chiefs go against the Jags on Monday night football.
So thread the needle on how you would kind of
like this game to go for you to come out
on top, because you know, obviously these are both your guys.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Well yes, I mean they are they are my guys.
But this is like, I mean, this is this is
like a Demanse versus Luca situation, my actual son versus
my pretend son and so like, I like, I really
like Trevor, I love Patrick, Like, there's not a this
(34:27):
isn't a what was that Macaulay Culkin movie where the
moms at the cliff? Was it the good Sons? She
has to pick which were the kids? This isn't like
a hard one. Well, one of the kids was evil.
It was really tricky. Doesn't matter, but uh yeah, I
mean no, I'm rooting for the Chiefs to roll. Now.
(34:48):
In a perfect world, they roll, and Trevor looks good,
and the Jags defense has been really good. They have
been really good primarily because they are forcing three turnovers
(35:10):
a game. They have thirteen four turnovers through nine games.
The most interesting thing going on with the Jags right now,
though Demonse, is not Trevor as much as I wish
it was, because he's just not playing that well. Like,
not only is he not the reason they're three to one,
you could argue that if he could have just taken
(35:30):
care of the ball against Cincinnati, they'd be four and
up like the Jags are. If Trevor starts playing better,
the Jags are legit dangerous. The most interesting thing with
the Jags right now is Travis Hunter, and they haven't
figured out how to use him, and right now it's
(35:54):
kind of the worst of both worlds, which is he's
not full time either side of the ball. He's we
thought he would play more than you know, any of
these other first round picks. Instead he's playing less than
some of them, and he's not being super impactful in
(36:16):
either spot. And so folks that were saying, again it's
been a month. He needs to be full time one
way and a bit player the other way. I think
right now that looks like that was that would have
(36:38):
been the smarter way to play it through September. Now,
maybe that'll change. But I think for Jacksonville to justify
trading away the fifth pick, a third round pick, and
next year's first round pick to move up for a
non quarterback, it had to be because they thought they
(37:00):
were getting two players. I thought they were getting two players,
and right now they have just gotten one okay player
on both sides of the ball. So that part, that's
the most interesting part for the Jaguars go ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Do you think that the Chiefs will backslide a little
bit from their progress that they made with Baltimore as
far as the offense.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Listen, I think that the offensive line is getting better
week by week. You now have almost you know, you
now have wide receivers two, three, four, and five. You're
still missing wide receiver one in Rashi Rice Kelsey is
looking better than he looked last year. I think the
offense is going to continue to look good. And the
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Chiefs have averaged their last five games with worthy going
back to last year, averaged twenty eight points per game,
and last year that was with the offensive line kind
of you know, being in shambles to a degree on
the left hand side. I now Jacksonville's defense is obviously
better than Baltimore's. I don't expect the Chiefs to go
(38:09):
eight straight possessions without a punt like they did against Baltimore.
But I do think Kansas City goes to Jacksonville, handles
their business and then you know, has a hell of
an opportunity on Sunday Night football against the Lions in
the final game without Rashik. But I I don't want
(38:33):
to get overly excited about Taekwan Thornton, but he's been
good and I'm now looking at Juju's been really solid
in his role, but he just can't move anymore like
(38:54):
you know what I mean, he just has You know,
I don't know what his forty yard time would be
right now, but it feels like it would be like
four to eight. But he's been a good blocker, he's
been he's in the right place all those things. But
I am starting to think about what this offense is
going to look like when Rashi Rice is in Juju's role.
(39:16):
Xavier is on one side, and I at this point
I trust Thornton more than I trust Hollywood Brown, and
all of a sudden, you have Thornton as your number three,
Hollywood is your four, Juju is depth, and Kelsey with
all that space in the middle of the field. Now,
that won't be the case obviously this weekend or Monday
(39:39):
night because Rice isn't back yet. But I think we're
gonna see more from Travis just by virtue of having Thornton,
who's a burner, and Xavier out there that he's gonna
have more space to operate with. They still don't have
a running back. I trust that seventh round rookie Richard's
(40:00):
We'll see if they incorporate him more. That's the one
spot on the team that I would like to see
them potentially upgrade in the trade market. But I'm I
would be very surprised if Kansas City can't go to
Jacksonville and figure out how to get a win against
a really good Jags team. Now, if the Jags win,
(40:23):
Jags are four and one, you got to really take
them seriously. But I don't think they're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Go ahead, who do you who's the weak link on
the Jags right now? Would you say that's Trevor Lawrence?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I mean, he's playing I don't think he is, but
he is playing like it at the end's been good.
Now that Brian Thomas Junior's been disappointed as well, and
then that he's had a lot of drops, the defense
has been great. Like, Trevor's got to be better, There's
no way around it. I fair is fair, Trevor's got
to be better. All right, Let's go to tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
So party is out for tonight's game. He's still dealing
with the turf too injury. With Perty's last game, he
threw two picks, he had a fumble Mac Jones, and
his two games is undefeated. So is it going to
be on that situation? Do you think the forty nine
ers have a chance tonight, And how concern should the
forty nine ers be about Brod Perty's health.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I do not think the forty nine ers have a
chance tonight. I think the Rams are excellent, and I
would be hugely concerned about Perty's health. I would also
be furious with my medical staff. Once again, if I'm
the Niners, I it's not like the NFL spinds a
(41:39):
wheel to determine who's playing Thursday night each week. You
if you're the Niners, you knew that you were playing
Thursday this week. Purty clearly was not one hundred percent
this past Sunday. They let him play anyway, the injury
(42:02):
got worse. He now is definitively going to miss this game,
and he's not even healthy enough to be like the
emergency quarterback for them and could miss more time. I
don't understand, especially because they did go to a zero
with mac Jones, how they don't hold party out demanse
(42:25):
this past Sunday and then he gets four extra days
before he would be playing against the Rams to heal
up that toe, and then ten days before the next game.
You know you could get you could have eased him
back in three games off and then he plays the Rams,
(42:46):
then a mini buy before they play the next week. Now,
this is probably gonna be a problem all year, which
brings me to the bigger party conversation. Man I, I
said all off season, why would you be in a
(43:10):
rush to pay this player? He struggle at his worst
year yet last year has dealt with some injuries and
has no leverage whatsoever. Just wait and see. They gave
(43:34):
him fifty what three million dollars a year and now
like it has been four games into the contract, if
they could wipe it away, would they? Of course? And
I know that there is it felt unfair because he
(44:00):
had made no money at all as the final pick
of the draft, and they had been to a Super
Bowl and been to a conference championship game and two
of his years he had played really well. But you're
not in the fairness business. You're in the football business.
And the other had they not paid him? And then this,
(44:25):
you know, we see this opening month of the season.
It's like, oh, Mac Jones, who is basically on the minimum,
can be dropped into this offense without all the weapons
and it can function. Are we better off spending our
money elsewhere? We like? Do we need a fifty million
(44:49):
dollars a year quarterback unless he's a true difference maker.
And that's That's the other piece of this is we
have so much evidence that that Shanahan system is relatively
quarterback proof. Now, listen, parties, A healthy party is better
(45:11):
than mac and raises your ceiling. But does he raise
your ceiling more than having three separate Pro Bowl level
players that you could get with fifty million dollars a year.
I don't know that he does, so I have been
There are very few opinions that have spanned the course
(45:32):
of five six years that have aged better than my
I do not believe the Niners quarterback is as good
as his numbers suggest. It's about Shanahan, the weapons and
the system then that take. But once again, I think
that takes going to age quite well. It also should
(45:55):
be noted because people are putting out there the Niners
wide receivers of her room, and I'm like, oh, I
recognize those guys. Patrick Mahomes won Super Bowls with him,
DeMarcus Robinson, sky Moore, Mark wes Valdez, Scantling. What do
you expect anyone to do? I don't know. Patrick Mahomes
won Super Bowl. So like the there is that, all right?
(46:16):
I know you want to ask me about Pooka.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Uh yes, where would you rank him among amongst wide receivers.
He's number one in yards receptions and yards by.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
A lot, by a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Stafford loves him.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
He's on pace demons through sixteen games, not even seventeen
game season, for more than one hundred and sixty catches
in the first ever two thousand yard season. So here
is all right, Here is the It's weird to say
(46:57):
he has almost an ironclad case that he should be
in consideration as the best receiver in the NFL. Yet
I cannot wrap my mind around the idea that he's
(47:19):
better than Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. And I feel
like he could have a two thousand yard season and
I still would not be able to wrap my mind
around it. But you know, he's doing it with not
great quarterback play. He's doing it under I shouldn't say
he's not great quarterback play. He's doing it when he's
(47:43):
not fully healthy. He's been able to just do it.
And it's I think he's playing at a higher level
than Cooper Cup did. And so some of that is,
you know, when we saw Cooper Cup do it. Now
we're saying Pooka do it. Stafford and McVeigh get some
of the credit. But Puk is an unbelievable player. He
(48:05):
is really an unbelievable player, and he's certainly demons has
to be in your top five. Certainly. I still think
Jefferson is the best receiver in football, but man, Pouk
is an unbelievable player.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
He does an unbelievable It seems like a solid teammate
as well. I mean, oh yeah, Jefferson as well. But
you know, yeah, but he doesn't. It doesn't seem like
he has the.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Like wide receiver curse. But it also helps that he
gets fifteen targets a game. I think all these series
will be pretty happy with you know what I mean
with with those types of targets. All right, let's talk
Houston Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
So I banged up Ravens are playing the lowly Texans.
These guys are both one and three. Who's this a
big game for? That means?
Speaker 1 (48:55):
All right? So first of all, let me say that
I think there is a chance lamars Uh rap Aboard
seemed to open the door to it. The only person
to slam the door shut on it was a Baltimore
Sun reporter, so I think there's a chance he plays.
(49:16):
I also think even if he doesn't play, Demonse, you
guys could win like Houston. If Houston's offense has been
dreadful for fifteen of the sixteen quarters this year, fourth
quarter against Tennessee they started scoring, but that game was
(49:36):
six nothing, six nothing, either late in the third or
going into the fourth, and then Houston rolled up some touchdowns.
Now maybe that's some momentum. Maybe, Like I said at
the top of the show, they were working through things,
new offensive coordinator, all that, but they have looked shaky.
So I think the game is more important for the
(49:57):
Texans because of this. If they lose, they're just flat
bad if you especially if you can't beat the Ravens.
When going into this game, unlike the Chiefs game, Chiefs game,
they went in without force defensive starters. This game, they'd
be going in without seven and no Lamar. Then who
(50:19):
the hell you beating? You can't beat a team who's
got a terrible defense and their MVP quarterbacks out, then
where other than the Titans? Like, who are you beating?
I also one of the reasons that I am, you know,
not going to abandon the Ravens even if they lose.
(50:40):
Is I don't fully trust the Steelers yet, and I
still think the Steelers could have a four game losing
streak in them and open that division up. So and
I do believe that when Lamar's out there, the Ravens
have one of the best offenses in the league during
(51:02):
the regular season, and I think they will continue to so.
But the more disappointing start to the season is Baltimore.
The more trouble for either team is Houston. Let me
ask you this, if Lamar loses, if Lamar misses the
next two weeks, yeah, because they have the Texans, the Rams,
(51:24):
and then the bye and they are one in five.
If he misses and they lose, do you think it's
that's a rap for them or go ahead?
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Or it's pretty close. I mean I think it's close.
I do like the Steelers being the top dogs right now, though,
because I have no faith in Ar. I watch a
lot of his Like when things are going good, he
loves it, but the second one thing goes bad, I mean,
just like a receiver missing something, he's pissed. So if
(51:59):
they start losing the game. If they lose two games
in a row one game, I think it's just gonna
stack on top of it, on top of itself.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
I also, so I tend to agree with you here's
but let's just say they're one in five, If the
Ravens are one and five, that the division's out of reach,
and let's just do a play. Yeah, so the Bills
are going to be in under this scenario, we're saying,
the Steelers are going to be in. We're gonna put
(52:29):
the Chiefs and the Chargers in. Okay, And obviously let's
just say the Colts keep doing what they're doing and
they're in those five teams. Did I leave Bills, Steelers, Yeah, Chiefs,
Chargers Okay. So that will then leave two playoff spots.
(52:57):
The Jags, the Patriots, the Broncos would be the leading contenders.
Do we think the Ravens could run two of those
teams down even at starting one in five if Lamar
(53:18):
comes back from the bye fully healthy. My answer to
that is yeah, I think they could. Like I would
not right off Baltimore because like.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
As Well, softens up a lot after the Rams, so
to speak.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Well, it's really interesting. The So I think they have
a brutal December, but a very soft ento October November.
So if you're the Ravens again, if we just play
this out and I think they are going to win
this weekend, Okay, so this at two and four, I
(53:56):
think they'd be fine. But if they're one in five,
you are after the bye home for Chicago, at Miami,
at Minnesota, at Cleveland, home for the Jets, home for
Senci Baltimore. Absolutely, if Lamar comes back healthy, can go
(54:19):
six and zero in that stretch. Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets, Bengals.
I know that the defense has been bad, but the
quarterbacks being Caleb who I think is good, then Tua,
whoever's starting for Minnesota, whoever starting for Cleveland, justin Field's
(54:42):
Jake Browning, you should be able to go six and up.
If you could do that at one in five, you'd
be seven and five going into what I think is
a brutal final five games home for Pittsburgh, who gives
you trouble year at Cincinnati, not terrible home for New England,
(55:05):
tough at green Bay at Pittsburgh. If you get to
seven and five, you probably just have to go three
and two in those final five to get to your
ten wins and sneak into the playoffs. Yeah, and potentially
(55:30):
you know, have the head to head tie breaker with
New England like that game December twenty first against New
England could be a huge one. Obviously, the Steeler games
are so I won't point that I'm making as this.
Even if they go one and five, I won't write
them off. And if they go two and four, I
(55:50):
think they'll be fine. Obviously they will need Lamar to
be full on Lamar, but Lamar was utterly sensation through
the first three games of the year, like I do.
The bright side to my take being it's all in
Lamar's head that he's just not like a playoffer against
(56:13):
the Chiefs type of performer is. It's not like, oh,
he's in a slump like I think the moment he
gets back, he's just kicking ass again. Yeah, all right,
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(56:57):
on baseball before we get to the questions from Tuesday
that we didn't get to, and also reminder everybody we
do have the gambling show coming out Friday morning with
our picks. Go ahead, pal uh So.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
The MLB playoffs are underway. The Yankees sign up to
this series with the Red Sox, the Dodgers advanced, and
two more wildcard series will wrap up today. What do
you have your eye on in this baseball postseason?
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Listen? I hope the Yankees win because I want to
be able to maybe do some shows from Yankee Stadium again.
It was so much fun. That was a great Yankee
win last night, and Jazz Chisholm, who was not happy
with his usage in Game one, saved the game for him.
He made an unbelievable diving stop at second base late
(57:46):
in the game and then scored from first the winning run,
so that you know, I am rooting for the Yankees tonight.
The pitching matchup for the Yankees tonight is the of
Schlitzler on the mound, and the Socks have Connelly early
on the mound. The Yankees are a slight favorite. The
(58:07):
Dodgers annihilated the Reds. That's good for baseball. Sorry for Cincinnati,
but that's good for baseball. That's exciting. Tigers guardians, I am.
I don't know who I'm rooting for, because the Tigers
kind of deserve to just have this whole thing fall
(58:30):
apart on them because they've had such a his story. Yeah,
fourteen game lead and then Cleveland ended up winning the division.
I that game's a coin flip to me. And then
Padres Cubs. It's better for baseball in theory for the
(58:52):
brand of the Cubs, but the Padres have so many
stars and you Darvish on the Mountain, and the Padres
were my preseason pick to you know, make the World
Series out of the NL. I would be rooting for
the Padres either way. We're gonna have sick Divisional round
(59:18):
because we are. We're going to get Dodgers Phillies in
the NL, which is unbelievable. And then the Brewers are
waiting for either the Padres or the Cubs, and in
the AL we're getting either Blue Jays Yankees or Blue
Jay's Red Sox, a nice Al East battle, and then
the Mariners waiting for the Tigers of the Guardians. Kind
(59:41):
of feels like Mariners Guardians would be awesome because they
both finished the year so red hot and Blue Jays Yanks.
So you know what, No, I'm not gonna bet it
because I haven't studied any of this, but I am
going to go ahead and say I am rooting for
the Guardians over the Tigers, the Yankees over the Red Sox,
(01:00:05):
and the Padres over the Cubs. Uh. So we get Brewers, Padres, Dodgers,
Phillies already locked, Blue Jays Yankees, and Mariners Guardians. That's
that's what I'm pulling for, all right, Demanse, Let's get
to some of these questions before we get to our
gambling show, which will come out tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
So everybody in the chat on Tuesday was asking about
how the Ryder Cup went.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
I really enjoyed going. I had a great time. I
don't want to spend two more time on it. Eagle
fans are out of their mind. They're out of their mind.
And the I I actually had to I should I
(01:00:52):
tell this story? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Whatever? Who cares?
Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
So I was just getting I was getting the Rory
mcelroyd treatment from Eagle fans the whole day. And these
are just like drunk finance guys in golf shirts and
so whatever. Fine, late in the day's Saturday, I'm walking
(01:01:17):
to find hubs because I went with Danny and Hubbs,
and there's a long line of people trying to get
beer and I'm about forty feet from it. And again
we're at a golf tournament. Man, and I hear, hey,
nick right few but they didn't say f and I'm like,
(01:01:42):
you know what, not okay? And I and I could
see who it was deep in the beer line, and
I'm like, we're gonna go have a chat. And so
I'm I walked. I started walking his way, and his
friends were like tap or whatever. But again, demons, this
guy is not your age. This guy is my age.
(01:02:05):
And uh. And I walk over to him and I
do what I always do in these situations, which is
I clasp my hands behind my back, like because I'm
like this guy's drunk and like whatever, Like I don't
want him to think like I'm coming over there to
like fight, but you're gonna have no no, no, no,
(01:02:25):
I was not. And as soon as I get within
ten feet he does one of these. He's like, hey man,
I'm sorry. I actually like the show. I'm just and
I'm like and I'm like, no, no, He's like what.
I'm like, buddy, we're adults at a golf tournament. Not cool.
(01:02:48):
And his friends were like, yeah, man, sorry, and he's
like he's like and so he tries to shake my hand.
I'm like, I'm not shaking your hand, man, but I
also am gonna need an apology, and and he's like
and he's like what. And his friends, who were mortified,
were like, hey man, just apologic. And I'm like, I'm
(01:03:11):
going to need an apology. And at this point, again,
it's like a three hundred person beer line, right, everybody's
looking and he's like, he's like, I'm sorry, man, I'm
like thank you, And then he tried to shake my
hand again. I'm like, I'm not shaking your bleep in
hand and then went and found Hubes. I couldn't take
(01:03:31):
it anymore. A great time in the Ryder Cup. But
I just didn't come on man like, buddy, you work
it at you trade stocks for a living or something,
trying to be Tommy tough guy at a golf tournament
wearing khakis in a Polo Ryder Cup shirt.
Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
All right, next, man, he's sorry, He's sorry? Uh dead ass?
Is the tattoo real? Nick?
Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
The never a doubt tattoo that I never know how
to show on camera. I still haven't figured it out.
See that that tattoo is real. The tackle Tide tattoo
was temporary. That was a I will tell a story
about that though. I went to the tattoo shop to
get them to do the stencil yeah, and then draw
(01:04:18):
it on for the bit for the show that The
lady there was like, yeah, I can do it, but
I just have to charge you the same price as
if I gave you the actual tattoo.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
And I'm like, okay, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
So the stencil am I am? I tripping? Isn't the
like print it out and then you put it on
your arm you like, it's like basically like one of
those things you'd put a quarter in a machine to
get a little thing.
Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
And then she got a sharpie and drew on the
stencil and it was one hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I would have drawn it on myself.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I wanted it to look good. Also, I kind of
played myself because she hadn't quoted me a price. And
then I walked up to the thing to pay and
I and I had a debit card and her credit card.
She was like, we're cash only, and I'm like, okay,
(01:05:19):
no problem. And I again, I'm not trying to sound
like a big shot, but I walk around with it
because I'm a gambler. I just walk around with a
lot of cash, you know, like a lot of money.
I always have it on me. And so I she
still hadn't told me a price, and I reach in
my pocket and I just grabbed my cash and it's
(01:05:41):
I don't know, it's probably two grand and hundreds and
she's and I see her see it. I'm like, oh,
I'm getting so played here now. I was like, there's
no and so and so she was like, well, like,
the least we're allowed to charge is one hundred dollars,
and I'm like okay. I was like, then, I guess
it's a hundred bucks and so yeah. And so then
(01:06:06):
I'm like, so I gave her, I gave her two hundreds,
and I'm like, hey, can I just have change for
this one for your tip? She's like, oh yeah, thank you.
And then she's like, we don't have a change. She
was like, we don't. I can't. She's like, I don't
have change. We've just opened. And I'm like, oh, okay,
(01:06:28):
and I and I'm thinking she's gonna be like, but
the hundred's fine, Like I'm just drawing the tackle that
turned the tide.
Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
On your arm.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Yeah, and she goes, you can zell me.
Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Just whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I like, all right, whatever, she was a nice lady,
so I zeld her or I've been motor fifty bucks.
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
So yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
The whatever, it was good for the bit. It's a
good bit for TV. All right, let's get to some
of the Thursday questions.
Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Uh As Sean says, Nick, can you explain why nobody
is dogging on Justin Herbert for losing to the Giants.
I've not heard a lot about.
Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Because people don't actually just listen. I don't think people
care quite enough about Justin Herbert. I also think he
had been playing quite well prior to that game. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
So like now guys have a solid defense.
Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Yeah and so, and that was more about Jackson Dart
whatever it is, all right?
Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Next, uh h J says Hi Nick, and demon's are
you concerned by the already mounting number of serious injuries?
Is it just me? Or is it notably bad this season?
Lots of marquee players too.
Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I actually think it's just you. I I but like
I think it's the turf in met life could be
a problem. But I think it's like this every year.
And I think every year we're like, damn, so many
guys are hurt, like it's a brutal, brutal game.
Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Next, Eclipse asked two part question. Is Zach Taylor on
the hot seat or does he get a pass for
the Burro injury? And what do you think about Trey
Lance to the Bengels.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
I mentioned Trey Lance and the Bengals off the air yesterday.
I do think the Bengals should trade for either Kirk
Cousins or Jameis Winston. And I would like, again, let's
say that Lamar misses time and they do fall to
one in five, and what we're talking about the Steelers happens.
You know, they like that division. They're two and two. Yeah,
(01:08:24):
and Browning's just been brutal, just been brutal. All right.
Reminder everybody like rate Subscribervie our Pick show, which will
be a quick pick show, comes out Friday. Check that
out as DEMONSI tries to give you another winning teaser
as he's three and one on the air. My picks
are right now decidedly mediocre. Haven't had a terrible week yet,
haven't had a great week yet, but we keep hitting
(01:08:47):
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