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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, and welcome into the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast.
We're back with the Week six primer episode. Well, we'll
give you our top six sleeper starts for matchups to exploit.
I'm your host, Seth Wilcock, and today I'm joined by
the smitty Werben Jaegerman Jensen of the FP staff.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's right, he was number one.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's Derek Crown, fresh off a first place finished in
week five's e CR Rankings accuracy competition.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Debro, Have you made room on the shelf for the
trophy yet?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh? Dude, look, I will be I will keep it
a buck here. I'm probably gonna fall back for it. Man,
Like if I are a betting man and I am,
I think Pat Fitzmorris is gonna lap me and he'll
end up higher than me, and the and when it's
all said and done, and other people Mike Mayer and
others that Fantasy Pros will end up higher than me
in the rankings when it's all said and done. But
(00:52):
I'm gona join the hot streak, dude. Yeah, And just
to give full clarity of everybody first in rankings for
week five and I'm actually top five in full season rankings,
and I am first in running back rankings so far,
so I'm not telling you that's how it ends the
rest of the season. We turn over the rest of
the cards. I'm just being honest, but babe, I'm enjoining
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the hot streak.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Heck yiss, let's let it ride.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Did you get the SpongeBob reference there too?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, well okay.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
No, no, no, I got it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That's what That's what got me at the beginning. I
started to cough because I was laughing. I was like,
what the wait? Really, we really went a little.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
SpongeBob love it.
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Your prize if you are that lucky winner, debro lets
it jump into the quarterback position where you have a
QB trying to get maybe a little sweet revenge on
the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, dude, I'm gonna go with Jared Goff. He's down
at qbaighteen and he's or QB fifteen and ECR excuse me,
And he's QB eighteen and Fantasy points per game, So
I understand like a lot of people are like, really
like he doesn't run. We all talked about regression, dude,
Jared Golf is playing amazing football and I know it
is not consistently crossed over to the fantasy streets for
production every week, but to give him his flowers. Amongst
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forty qualifying passers, this dude is top twelve in yards
per attempt. He leads the freaking NFL in passing touchdowns.
He's top twelve and highly accurate throw rate and hero
throw rate. And I'm not telling anybody that the Chiefs
are a pushover, gimme matchup. I understand they've allowed the
fourteenth fewest yards per attenth and the ninth flowest passer rating.
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But there are avenues to Jared Goff one Detroit for
you to get the explosion games out of a lot
of the different weapons outside of Jamiir Gibbs and David
Montgomery on the ground, you need a team that can
push the Lions into that nuclear type of spot where
they go off and Jared Goff gets three point fifty
and three or three fifty and four, And so, considering
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the constitution of the Lions defense right now, their secondary
is extremely banged up. Terry on Arnold's gonna miss time.
DJ Reid is out, the Chiefs are gonna be able
to move the ball and push the Lions into that
type of mode where it is we gotta score points
and in bunches and Jared Goff. The one thing that
I was worried about coming into this year with the
OC change, where we gonna get as much play action? Baby,
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We're getting it. And that's one of the keys to
this matchup. And people say, Okay, the Chiefs have a
good passed defense, but how can Jared Golf get one
over on them? How does that happen? It is with
the use of play action. Golf right now has the
third highest play action drop back rate in the NFL.
He's fourth and yards per attempt and second and passing
touchdowns when utilizing play action. And this matters because Casey
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has struggled. As good as Steve Spaganola's defense is and
will be, they have struggled with play action to this point.
They're giving up the highest yards per attempt and the
third highest pass rating to play action. So I think
this is a good ceiling opportunity. Lions are gonna get pushed.
They got to pass Casey. It is much easier to
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pass on them than it is to run, and a
lot of different aspects. I think Golf's in for a
good day, dude.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think Jared Goff, in this almost entire lines pass
catching group, was one of my biggest blunders in my
draft rankings debro because.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I was just not high on them, and like.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
When they were baking a regression. We talked about this
in the offseason. Yeah, like they were so stinking good.
Some of that has to come back to the mean, right,
and that's not a bad process thing. But like, you know,
there's still a really freaking good team. I know, crazy
to hear.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Huh well, And he's leading the league right now in
passing touchdown folks that that rating will come down a
little bit. It's an eight point three percent touchdown clip,
so I don't expect that to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But he's number seven in money throws.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
He right now is getting red zone passing attempts too,
more than we saw Ben Johnson willing to do it.
When they're getting in tight they're letting Jared Goff slinging
around the yard there. And look, I don't think there's
more motivation he needs than going up against the Kansas
City team that he's been oh so close at beating
before he beat them last year in Week number one.
I love Jared Goff also leads the league right now
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in QBR. So Goff, I think this week I mean,
is there a better stat name, a better stack you'd
rather have this week than Jared Goff And I'm Mon
ros Saint Brown, maybe I'm Mecca and Baker maybe maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But this kind of goes back to a process thing too.
Like last week we talked about Sam Darnold. I hope
people played him too in spots where they're going to
be forced to pass the matchup? Is there? This is
another one where you go back to the well where
it's a quarterback that And honestly, this could be talked
about like Matthew Stafford in weeks prior whenever we talked
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about him too. It's like these quarterbacks that are playing
at such a ridiculously high level, but some of this
hasn't consistently crossed over to fantasy point production on a
weekly basis, especially for these guys that we know all
of their production has to come to the air because
they're not running. So really can that happen? And I mean,
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do we been hitting on all these guys? So why
not golf?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
This week?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Let's go to the running back position here de bro
where you have a duo of running backs, one of
them who is trying to make his old coach from
college proud once again with the stuff who is it?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
So I got to bring it up because I know
both of these guys are gonna be talked about a lot,
and people are gonna say, what do I do with
either one of these guys? And I'm saying both of
these guys are flex viable, and that's Sasan Haskins and
Kamani Vodell. Like Haskins is at RB thirty five, Adell's
at RB thirty seven, I think they're both RB three.
So I'm in a range kind of with ECR here.
But both of these guys are flexworthy this week. And
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I'm not telling you that both of them pay off.
But there is a world we could live in that
that happens last week. We could talk about it, and
I could get into the nitty gritty about snaps and
Carri's and Target chair. Just know that basically these guys
play the exact same amount. They got the exact same usage.
I mean, it is almost a mirror image of itself
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when you talk about how they were utilized without Mario
and Hampton last week. So both of these guys are
gonna get usage this week. I think this is gonna
be a hot hand approach. And if I have to
bet on one of these guys, it's Kamani Vadell only
because I'm a bigger believer in the and that winning
out in the short and long term in this backfield
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until Hampton possibly comes back. Vadell has two point a
three yards of to contact per carry in his career.
He has three runs of at least ten yards. He's
four smiths tackles on seventeen percent of his plays. Those
numbers all trump anything that Haskins has ever done. He's
got a two point five to four yards of to
contact career mark. He's only had two runs of ten
or more yards and sixty five career carries. So if
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I'm picking one of these guys to flex, if you
got both of them off the waiver wire, it's Vedell
for me. But honestly, both of them are flexworthy. There's
a world we could be living in where because here's
the other part. If you were to tell me that
the Dolphins fall apart the Chargers, this is a big
comeback game for them, where they just drop like a
thirty spot on this team or thirty five to forty
points on this team, and the Dolphins fold and they're
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sitting their starters of the fourth quarter. I wouldn't be surprised,
but in that type of game script, maybe Haskins gets
the early touchdown of Vdell gets run late, or vice versa.
But both these guys the bar to be a flexworthy
player is very low. They both have the talent and
the opportunity to both clear that bar, especially when we're
talking about pull up any metric, any metric, I promise
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you the Dolphins are gonna be top five and almost
everything you look at versus running backs. They've given up
the most rushing yards per game, the highest explosive run rate,
and yards are to contact per attempt. And this freaking
run defense is also given up the eighth highest mistackle rate.
So both of these guys are flexworthy. And I'm not
telling you both them get fifteen to opportunities, but could
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both of them get eight to twelve opportunities. It's possible
this week, SETH. So I gotta highlight them because I
know that they're gonna be in the conversation for flexes
based off of bye weeks, lineups, injuries and what have you.
For fantasy games.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Look, and I hate to be, you know, the guy
to walk down narrative Street. But I always think there's
a little bit of a chip on the shoulder of
Justin Herbert when he's going up against the Miami Dolphins
who passed on him in the draft for two US.
So that's good that I think they get out to
a good lead. And at the same time here, Derek,
you mentioned the Miami Dolphins. They've succeeded the most rushing
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yards two opposing running backs this season. They haven't done
it on a ton of volume because you haven't needed
to because you can gash the Dolphins. And also when
you look at receiving yards for running backs this season,
only one team is allowed more receiving yards to opposing backs.
It's the Dallas Cowboys, of course. So I think this
is a great spot here. I think it is very
very much a business trip for Jim Harball and this
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Chargers team going down to Miami, and I think they're
gonna lay the wood to man. I really they're gonna
take them out back behind the shed, and I don't
know if they're coming out of that one.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think the Chargers are gonna put up some points. Man.
So if that's the case, both these running backs are
gonna definitely be in play.
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Speaker 2 (11:10):
Derek, let's go to the wide receiver position here where
you have one wide.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Receiver in particular staying home in Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Been a little bit of a disappointment so far.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But you think he gets things together against the Cardinals
team that might be thrown in the towle after last
week's second half performance.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, dude, I think it's a good spot for Josh
Downs to get going. And what do we see. And
he's been a player that hasn't even made the primer
on some weeks because he's been like a forty to
fifty percent route share type of player. But last week
we saw a season high seventy two percent route share.
I mean, basically, he hit season high marks. Across the board,
twenty one point nine percent target share, fifty four receiving yards.
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He got almost a thirty percent first reshare, and he
finished with eleven point four PPR points. That's another season high.
So you look at he's getting the usage, he's playing more.
The matchup this week is really really good seth like
as good as the Cardinals defense has been in certain
weeks in spots, and if you look at season long numbers,
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they have struggled to defend slot receivers. They've given up
the fifth most fantasy points per game to opposing slot
receivers and the second most receiving yards to the position.
So Josh Downs wheels up, dude, Like he's a wide
receiver forty five in ECR. I'm probably gonna have him
somewhere in the wide receiver three range. Very bought in
on Josh Downs having a good game this week.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, it's been a really nice resurgence for him. I
kind of left him dead out in the water coming
into the draft season just because I thought Tyler Warren
would take a lot of that volume away. Tyler Warren's
volume actually kind of going down a little bit while
Josh Down's rising up. So we've certainly seen a shifting
in the tides there. And like, I don't know if
you watch much of that Titans game last week, Debro,
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but deekey Dka very involved out of the slot. We've
seen it time and time again. Cooper Cup had a
couple of receptions out of there. Like, I think it's
a volume floor play here for Josh Downs. I don't
know if the upside is crazy, but you know, we
go back only to week three, Ricky Piersoll took him
eight for one seventeen as well, So yeah, it's certainly
within the cards here, I think. And even your boy
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Hunter Renfro, I know you got some love for him.
He found the end zone twice against this defense as well.
So as to your point, slot receivers has been matching
against Arizona.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, but so also converse to your point too, like
about the ceiling. Just take his stat line from last week,
take this tat line from last week, and take the
eleven point four in PPR toss a touchdown on top
of that. Yeah, and we're talking about that. That's wide
receiver to production. So like, I don't think that we're
asking like it's not a bridge too far to expect
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a ceiling like wide receiver two type production out of
Josh Downs this week. I think it definitely can happen.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, I mean he's due, man, I think he is
due for some regression, ye positively to get him in
the end zone. Find some pay dirt there. And you
also like another wide receiver here this week, Derek, and
kind of goes back to this same theme of almost
this entire episode of fill in players.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, and I'm gonna give a caveat with this. Kendrick
Bourne again being very high on him, also is going
to take like Ricky Piersalich Won Jennings boat sitting. But
I think both of those things happens. At the time
end of the recording of this, we don't have that information. Well,
Pierceall we he's expected to be out, but Jennings, we
don't have any news on him. He did miss practice
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on Wednesday. So I'm just being transparent about this call
and how we're projecting this. But if both of those
guys are out, like I think that we're going to get,
the matchup is great. And Kendrick Bourne was the unquestioned
wide receiver one for the forty nine ers last week,
dude got a twenty two point four percent target here.
Everybody saw the receiving cards he put up. He got
a twenty five percent first reach here, like he looked
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like Kendrick Bourne from a few years ago last week,
and he looked really freaking good doing it. And now
you put the matchup against the Buccaneers up here where
it's one. They've given up the thirteenth most Fantasy points
per game the perimeter wide receivers, so that box Jamel
Dean might be back, but even if he's back this week,
we know he's not one hundred percent and he's not shadowing,
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so who cares. Zia McCollum is hurt, probably out. Benjamin
Morrison is still hurt. He's not gonna play. So even
if Dean is back of the lineup, this secondary is
not at full strength, and so mac Jones gonna be
getting the ball out of his hands. You cannot run
on the Buccaneers. They're gonna have to lean more into
the passing game. So looking at all all the parts
and pieces of this matchup, Kendrick Bourne just feels like
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free money at wide receiver forty one an ECR Right now, yeah,
I have.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Big Fomo of not picking up last week before the
breakout performance. Eleven targets in that game. Of course, you're
gonna have some DeMarcus Robinson out there as well. He
had seven targets of his zone. We had Jake Tong's
take eleven targets. And like, Mac Jones is not the
worst quarterback in the world. Like, there's not a huge
gap I think between like Mac Jones and Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Like I think it.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
TJ says, Hi, come back, Mac, come back.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Look like right now for ranking quarterbacks one to thirty
two in the NFL, you can't tell me Mac Jones
isn't at least in the top thirty two.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think it's there.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Fair.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So yeah, I really like Kendrick Bourne, you know, not
only for this week, but I don't know when Juwan
Jennings ever gets back, right, Like, I don't know, he's
been banged up all week.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And Tampa Bay they are not going to take their
foot off the gas man. They are rolling right now.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
They're gonna push them.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So I like Kendrick Bourne a lot this week as well.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Debro tight End though, this is where I don't want
to push back but I.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Do have to push back, tell you come on.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think the entire community is starting to sour on
one zach Ertz, who had a great resurgent year coming
off the torn acl last year in Washington, and it
just has been a little bit up and down form
so far this season, though Derek.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
It has been very up and down. But a lot
of this comes down to coverage matchups and win zach
Ertz is utilized and when he's not utilized. So just
like a broader conversation we could have here seth teams
that play a lot of single high coverage. Unless you're
a tight end that can beat man coverage, can can
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line up on the perimeter, most tight ends are not
going to do a lot Versus teams that run a
lot of single high coverage. A lot of teams are
going more to too high coverage and that's helping a
lot of tight ends out that it's helping zach Ertz out,
And that's why I have to bring him up here,
the fact that he's tight end fourteen in ECR. I'm
going back to the well and if anybody saw the
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primary updates, if you going back and you can read it,
go back and read the article right now, receipts are
out there. Whenever I went back to the data about
zach Ertz last week and I looked closer about the
chargers and stuff, I said, dude, I'm out, you don't
need to play him. I look deeper into it and
that proved to be correct. But I'm back in this week,
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seth because the coverage matchup does go back into the
favor of zach Ertz. You look at the Bears and
what they've done, and this has been a Dennis Allen thing.
He's been a big too high believer, going back all
the way back to the Saints. They ran a lot
of too high and stuff like that before. The Bears
run too high at the second highest rate in the
NFL right now, almost sixty three percent of the defensive snaps.
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And people say, why do you highlight this and why
does it matter single high versus too high? Because it
matters how defenses play and how offenses are going to
attack them. If a defense is made to keep you
from stretching the field and put funnels everything underneath, your
running backs are gonna get more play in the passing game,
your slot receivers and your tight ends and this coverage
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matchup leans itself for zach Ertz against too high this
year seth zach Ertz twenty point eight percent targets here,
two point twoy six yards per route run and a
thirty two point three percent first read cheer. So yes,
I'm going back to the zach Ertz Well, he's going
to be a tight end one for being rankings.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Look, I get the call.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I totally do, honestly, And like, I think game script
could be in your favor because if I know anything
about Buffalo when they play these elite teams, they're.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
They're playing the Bears this week.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh sorry, sorry Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So the Bears are going to push them though your
point though.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, yeah, especially with the motivation from last year's you know,
the Commanders.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Stevens is not played good this year to this point,
So like, do we think that Ben Johnson and Caleb
Williams can't have a good day and push the Commanders
They're going to?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think the other thing kind of leaning towards zach
Ertz's favor is when he's needed him, he has been
a very trusty weapon for Jane Daniels right now. Quarterback
rating per target seventh among the tight end position right now.
Fantasy points per target as well eighth. So he's doing
the most with what he's getting. We just need to
see a bit more volume here. And you're kind of
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calling your shot that you think he gets that volume
in a week where if Terry mclaurin's back, he's not
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
He's not gonna play. I don't think mclauran plays. I
was gonna say, that's another that's another feather in his cap.
I think mclaurin's gonna be out.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
How many more targets can debotake too? I mean, this
guy saw eleven targets last week. It just it feels
like like I don't know if I want to be
giving him that many touches for a guy who has
a little bit of an injury history there in Washington.
So Debro great stuff on the primer, not just this
video version, but also the YouTube short that will be
out and also the written version.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
How many words you got you got in this week?
Ten twelve, twenty thousand.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
After revisions, I'm at like around seventeen thousand, But then
I've still got to go back and I've got to
update about injuries, basically the entire point Niners passing attack.
Once we get worried about who's in, who's out, all
that kind of stuff, it'll probably end up somewhere in
the eighteen nineteen thousand word range. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
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