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Speaker 1 (00:25):
He owns a podcast every day, the Athletic Football Show.
His name is Robert May's Chicago based, and he was
so good last time. We're like, all right, let's just
rebook him. It's like the restaurant, you like, just bring
it back. Let's go again. So I said earlier today,
I said, what Ben Johnson essentially did. He just got
rid of the ridiculous They can now score in the
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first quarter. They don't lose on Hail Mary's. The clock
doesn't run out, they run the ball and don't turn
it over. It's not wizardry. It to me last night
and the week before was like, you know, the giveaway
takeaway thing. They figured out a little bit and it's
just fundamentally more sound football. It's not Andy read play design.
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To me, what do you see?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think there's some of that coming.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
What's more encouraging to me is that when you watch
the offense last year, understand Shane Waldron, none of it
made sense. The ways that they were using the individual
skill position players is the best example of this. They're
using Keenan Allen on vertical routes and they're using Roma
Dunese in all these change of direction ways. It's like,
what is your personnel do well? And just put them
in those positions, and so they have checked that box.
The run game structure looks good. I think some of
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the details have been off over the first month, all
the penalties, the fact that you're missing like little assignments
here and there. But the overall plan feels like it's
well conceived. Yes, you feel the plan and you can
understand what they're trying to accomplish. There's intention behind it,
and that for somebody who watches this team every week
for a long time, it's a nice.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Change of plas.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah. No, we said, when your son's been getting d's,
you're not going to argue over a B minus. I
thought it was kind of a B minus performance.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And I was joking with a friend earlier this week.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
All I want is to be like the sixteenth best offense.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
In a week.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I don't understand why that's a huge ask, Like I
feel like it's a reasonable thing to want, and it
seems like we're trending in that direction.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, you know, Caleb's funny, like he's got relationships are hard,
you know, like hardball and Herbert was easy because Justin's
like the nicest kid ever. It's ego lists and Jim
is almost as his age is almost parental. But Ben
is young and ascending, and this is his first big job,
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and Caleb had a bad rookie year. I'm gonna argue
this is not as easy as we all think it
is between coach and star quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I think that's right.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I mean the word that was used to me when
I was there at Household before the season and I
was asking about their relationship, there was one word that
somebody said to me said.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's intense.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
It is intense between them, but not in a bad way.
Intense where you feel growth, where the tension can be healthy.
And I think after his rookie year, Caleb needed that
he needed a little bit more structure, He needed somebody
to push him, and by all accounts, that's exactly what
it has felt like so far, and I think you're
starting to see their returns on that.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So I use the example earlier of Mark Jackson and
Steve Kerr. Mark Jackson was more than capable. They were
winning games, but you had this transformational talent in Steph Curry,
and you needed this ecosystem that was kind of impenetrable,
that was unique. Draymond was a small ball, became a thing.
You had Klay Thompson, and all of a sudden you
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look up and they weren't maybe as good initially defensively,
but it did make sense in a division. Now was
Sean Payton, and then Andy Reid and then Mike vrabel
is gaining on you and Jim Harball. They're iconic guys
in the East. And I kind of look at Sean
McDermott as a really great supervisor that's not crazy creative,
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And I wonder, I wonder if Josh Allen now has
a little self doubt losing the Young New England, losing
to Atlanta. I mean, Michael Pennix looked really comfortable last
night doing kind of whatever he wanted to. I don't know.
I mean, do you think did Josh and McDermott get
along really well.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I think that my biggest frustration with the Bills right
now is that there was a version of the Bills
when Josh Allen was ascending. They're very specific on offense,
they're very spread out, the used a lot of college concepts.
Their run game was very bad, and at a certain point,
I think that fed into Josh's worst impulses.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
There was no.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Calming force on offense, and when Joe Brady took over,
they developed this really downhill run game that they could
rely on. And now they have this flexibility where if
we need to throw the ball forty times, we can,
If we need to run the ball forty times, we can't.
That evolution has not happened on defense. All they're doing
now is they're tinkering within the same world in which
they've always existed, and I think that's where you're seeing
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some of the limitations, and ultimately that does fall on
the coach. This on that side of the ball is
his vision. You can't stop the run.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
They can't because of the way they're built.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
If you look at the types of players that they
prioritize on the in the back seven, it's undersized guys
who move well and are smirt right.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
They're trying to recreate Mike ah Part, MIKEA.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Hyde and Jordan Poyer in the back end because they
want to do all this disguise and they still disguise
coverages more than any team in the league. Well, all
offenses are doing is saying, you can do all that
funky stuff on the back end you want to, We're
going to bludgeon you.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Up front this entire game.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And it's so funny that the Bill's offense figured that out.
We're going to be the dominant, We're going to be
the enforcers.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
The Bill's defense has never gotten there, and I think
you're seeing how that's holding them back right now.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So I was saying, Sean Payton texts me over the
last year about bow Nicks and it was a good
fit and it's got Drew Brees's composition to it right.
But Bo's not a great deep ball thrower so far,
and Mems, Franklin and Sutton can all be deep ball
receivers and bow misses it badly. And Sean likes that.
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He wants that, you know, I also do. I don't
think he wants to run Bonnicks that much, because you know,
most coaches don't. It feels like to me, this roster
is really stacked. It's got a lot of long, twitchy
athletes and they just it's all underneath stuff. Like it
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feels to me that sean body language last week in
London felt frustrated. To me, Sean looked frustrated.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
It's interesting that you talked to him, because when he
has talked about Bonnicks over the last year, anybody who
will listen, it seems like he's willing to tell them
I believe in this guy, Like I think this guy
can be a winning quarterback. But then you watch how
they approach the offense last week on third and four,
third and five, these really high leverage moments, and it's
all screens all the time, and so he's saying one thing,
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and then the construction and the decision making says another
thing about the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And so I wonder how much does.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
He actually believe in him if he's not going to
let him drop back to pass on third and seven
in the biggest moments of a game.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, it's I like Denver's roster. I think it's fantastic, Undeniably.
I mean, the defense top to bottom might be the
best in the league. The offensive line is great. I
think you're seeing some of the limitations that bo had
last year continue to crop up again this year, and
it's a little bit disappointing. You'd hope that there would
be some gains in those areas, but some of the
stuff that's holding them back now some of the same
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stuff that was holding them back in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 1 (08:00):
So I have defended Aaron Rodgers not much over the
last seven or eight years. I can remember years ago
not liking his body language. I pointed out years ago
he has very few come from behind wins considering how
great he is, Fewer than Derek Carr, Andy Dalton. Some
of that is his kind of body language changes if
he has an early pick. He's a little bit more
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of a Baylor than a Baller in big spots, but
he's gifted. I actually love this Aaron. So the Steelers
have like an NBA front line, I mean Washington, Friarmouth, DK, Metcalf,
Like if there was a loose ball, they're getting the rebound.
And I think he's My take on Robert Mays joining
us for the radio audience, my take on it is
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Aaron is looking at this and like, we're not small
and twitchy. That's not what we are. We're gonna win
one on one matchups. We're so damn big. And he's
not throwing it deep and he's getting crushed by the pffs.
But when I watch them play, his risks are well
thought out. It's beautiful back shoulders three to four times
a game. I know I'm being told he's not rating well,
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but it looks like the right play to me. What
am I missing?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I think you're missing the limitations down the road. That's
what I would be most concerned about the way that
he's approaching some of these games. The Minnesota one is
a perfect example. Against that Vikings defense, It's going to
bring a lot of heat at you. They play a
lot of very soft zone coverage. If you're getting the
ball out very quickly, that's the way to attack them.
But I think ultimately these guys who have super super
low time to throws. Joe Burrow comes to mind when
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the best version of Joe Burrow that we've ever seen
was the Joe Burrow we saw last year when he
started creating a.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Little bit more deeper into the play. You saw some
of the pocket movement.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Eventually, you're going to need to do that against the
best defenses in the league. You can't just hunt these
matchups and get rid of the ball in two and
a half seconds. But it's exactly what he's doing right now,
and that's what he wants to do. If you look
back at it, last year, he had a very low
time to throw. When he's got a slot fade to
Devonte Adams or a one on one slant of Heart Wilson.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
He does that very very well.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
You can still pin the ball on guys, but ultimately,
when you're playing against the Broncos defense on divisional weekend,
you're going to need to re stuff out and access
different parts of the play than whatever your first immediate
one on one opportunity is. And I still don't think
we've seen him do that enough over the last couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, and Haslbeck came on the show yesterday, Matt, and
he's like, let me tell you, when the first numbers four,
you want to get rid of the ball quickly. You've
taken so many hits. He goes, I think it's subconscious.
You just want the ball out. And I kind of
defend him based on his history and how many times
he's been hit.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
That's absolutely what I've seen over the last couple of years.
And I think now he's been able to exist in
this box and it's been okay. If you push him
outside of that, I think that's where things get a
little bit dicey, because I totally agree with Matt I
think you can feel him not wanting to sit in
the pocket very long and read stuff out a little
bit deeper into these plays.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So Baker won a playoff game in Cleveland. Stefanski didn't
like some of the personality. He was a bit of
a fire starter, and so they moved on. It's a
mistake now with Baker. But Baker was never terrible. Sam
Donald was. Sam Donald was regrettable, and so he goes
to Minnesota and a lot of the compliments was well
justin Jefferson and Kevin O'Connell. I don't know did Seattle
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are they surprised Sam's been this good? Because I think
a lot of people felt like, okay, that that was
a bit of an outlier. Are you surprised? Do you
think Seattle is he's the number one graded quarterback. Now
there's a guy that will throw the ball down the
field in Donald. Are you surprised?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I'm surprised it's been this good. Yeah, he had flashes
last year.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
But I think the combination of the lack of mistakes
plus all the high end plays. We've never seen that
version of Sam Donald before turnover whethy plays, the amount
of sacks that he's taking all of that stuff. The
volume has been turned all the way down, and you're
still getting the high end stuff. And so I had
a conversation with Sam last summer that was illuminating to
me just about the ways that he was seeing the
game a little bit deeper in his career. And I
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think when he was in San Francisco and he finally
was in an offensive system where the intention of what
they were trying to accomplish was articulated to him. Why
are you doing this as a quarterback? Why should you
be seeing it this way? I think that's carried over
over the last couple of years. And it's funny. We've
seen this with Baker, with Sam, with Geno, to an extent,
Daniel Jones, these guys with their second act that have
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made the most of it. You see this convergence of
physical talent and mental maturity. And that happens for quarterbacks
at twenty seven, twenty eight years old. There, Yeah, exactly.
And I think so many athletes we think, oh, they're
peaking at twenty three, that's what they're going to be.
Quarterbacks aren't like that. Your prime comes in your late twenties.
And so for somebody as talented as Sam Darnold. He
needed another opportunity to make good on it. But that
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convergence of those two things I don't think is more
pronounced for any player in the league than it has
been for Sam.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So I like Drake May out of college. I loved
Rabel as a coach. They were my pick to double
the win total. And some of it was because I
thought Miami and the Jets fairly lifeless, hapless. Drake May
is better faster than I thought, right, Like what the
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coverage is? I mean, he had a really bad pick
in the end zone against Pittsburgh and you're like, Okay,
that's just it's okay. I defended him when they lost
to the Raiders Robert I said, Okay, they've got nine
news free agent starters, six rookies, Like this is like
an NIL portal gone wrong in college, Like they had
way too many guys second, third, fourth week. So I
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kind of gave him a pass. I kept saying, be patient.
I didn't think he was this good, like I thought.
I'm not sure I ever thought seventy five percent completion percentage, like,
let's explain it.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I think that's a really good way to look at it.
To me, it's a combination of three things. Lack of mistakes,
like truly boneheaded mistakes. You just picked out one. That's
about all there's been. You know, there haven't been that many.
And in college and even as a rookie, there are
more of those flubs mentally for him that I think
you want to see. And he's really really toning that down.
And then there's a combination of high floor plays and
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high ceiling plays, what he can do with his legs
and as a scrambler, all the easy completions that he's taking.
That's what's so encouraging and exciting to me, is that
those completions that are there underneath checking the ball down.
He's doing all of that stuff at a really competent
level early on, and he is so talented and so aggressive,
the high end stuff is going to come. That was
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never a question. It was all about the steady aspects
of his play and the offense. And I think you're
seeing all that stuff come together at the exact same time.
And I'm one hundred percent with you. He has been
so much better, so much faster than even the most
optimistic Drake May believers probably would have thought.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, the you know, I we can end it on
this and chew on this a little bit. Maybe because
I like Brian Dable. So even when the Giants came
into the season, I wasn't sure about the GM Shane,
but I like Brian. I like their left tackle and
healthy neighbors Scataboo I thought would be interesting, and their
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defensive front excellent. The Jets have players, and there's there
is a Freddy Kitchens aspect to Aaron Glenn where I'm like, wow,
nothing's good, and I do wonder because you know, the
Jets will tell people privately who criticize them on Sala
we gave him multiple years. I mean the errand thing is.
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I mean, if I was a college quarterback and the
Jets had the number one pick, like I think that
if I got the right nil number, I may stay
with my college program. What's too soon to pull the
plug with the Jets? Like Robert nothing works. The play
calling was weird. It feels Freddy Kitchens where he may
be a good play caller. Some guys are just vice presidents.
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Yeah that is fine. I mean what's happening there?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It's so strange. The offense.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I think we all could predict that they might have
struggled this year. Right, Justin Fields has been an afterthought quarterback.
He's been a backup quarterback. We're not going to see
this resurgence with all these guys getting another opportunity. The
passing game with him and the receivers that they have
on that roster was always going to be limited, and
I think we've realized those limitations. What's most discouraging to
me is the fact that their defense too often over
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the first six games has just looked lost, Like you
look at what some of their second and third level
defenders are doing in space, their eyes against the run,
these things that should be the strongest parts of your
team with a defensive minded head coach. Coaching to me
as simple in the NFL, I think we based coaching.
We evaluate them. Are you getting the most out of
your players what you're supposed to be good at?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Are you good at those things? Are you getting returns
on those things?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
And for the Jets specifically, that hasn't happened on defense,
and I think that's where it gets really worrying.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, let's circle back one to the Bears. I think
it was interesting last night they put a stat up
it was just the Bears scored twenty seven first quarter
points and they're at thirty seven. Now, it's remarkable. Now,
they did get Drew Dolman, they got Tony Jonah Jackson.
They were going to be better, and it is interesting
that the cohesion on the old line takes time because
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starters don't play in the pre season, so it was
pretty rough the first two weeks. You could see the
dominance on the O line last night, and you start
looking at their schedule and they're three and two. Of course,
again they could be they could be two and three
or one and four. I mean the Raiders game, it's
a block kicked. But they're getting better by the week.
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I looked at their offensive skilled people and the whole lineup,
Drew Dolmen's elite Toony's elite. Dundee's a nice young player.
DJ moorese talented, DeAndre Swift's always been capable. Tight ends
are at least average. I don't know if the coaching.
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I'll say this, I felt the Bears last night. I
thought skill and coaching they can match up with everybody
except the Chiefs. And is that just hyperbolic and nonsense.
I actually like their personnel and offense a lot.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I don't think that's unreasonable at all, and I think
you're starting to see it come together. I think they're
came at the exact right moment. When you look at
the way they handled training camp. It wasn't just that
those guys didn't play in the preseason. They're swapping out
left tackles the entire way through training camp. They didn't
know who the left tackle was going to be until
the season started. And so now they settle in with
THEO Benedette left tackle and the way that they handled
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installing the offense in camp, they said this openly.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
They threw everything at all of those guys.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
We're going to figure out over this month what are
we good at and what are we not And that
leaves you not a lot of time to hone the
things that you're good at. And so thereby coming five
weeks into the season is perfect because you get to
take a step back, You get to take a breath
and say, Okay, now that we have all this information,
let's start to really zero in on the stuff we
can be good at with the.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Line that we feel comfortable with.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
With Darnold Wright getting back, now you're starting to see
that process. I think that now they're really starting to
fine tune things they couldn't find tune in August.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I watched the Bills last night, Rashi Rice is coming back,
and I watched the explosive Chiefs on Sunday, and my
take is, you're wasting Josh Allen's years. I don't care
if it's Calvin Ridley, I don't know if it's Dj
Moore trade deadline. Doesn't Buffalo have to do something on
the perimeter.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I honestly think they could do something at a perimeter
on the other side of the ball, like I think
corner and defensive back and just I would be more
interested in beefing up the defense than I think I
would be with the pass catchers, because for the most part,
I think that Josh Allen and a good offensive line
is a route to an elite offense.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I think they'll get there on that side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I'd be looking at my defensive personnel, whether it's safety, linebacker,
and just the lack of size physicality that they have.
If I was Brandon Bean, I think that is what
would be keeping me up at night right now.
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Speaker 3 (19:48):
I really appreciate it. Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (19:58):
All right, j Max, we got a lot to tell
talk about before this baby ends. Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
This is the headline news.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
All right, let's start with this Bill Belichick drama in
Chapel Hill.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Colin.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Obviously, last week was a rough one, a lot of
reports that maybe he was gonna leave, be one and done.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Well.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Belichick spoke to everybody yesterday. Here he is at the
podium talking about it.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
Some of the reports out last week about my looking
for a buyout, trying to leave here and all that,
it's just categorically false. Is zero truth to any of that. Uh, Glad,
I'm here. We're working towards, uh, you know, our goals.
It's a learning curve. We're all in it together. But
we're making a lot of progress and and uh, you know,
the process will eventually prove the results that wanted to produce,
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like they have everywhere else. I've been.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Well.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Jeff, by the way, did his did Jordan approve that
outfit at the podium, He for the first time at
UNC kind of looked like an old.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Frumpy guy, hair, a little disheveled.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
This was a throwback to the Patriots, right, He's wearing
like a Carolina gray sweatshirt.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
He looked kind of old there, Colin, Well.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
He is, and that's you know, that's that's he didn't
have a makeup artist, so you know, sometimes it gets
a little choppy when you get up in New Year seventies.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
He's dating a twenty four year old. He's got to
look a little better than that. I'm wondering if this
pressure is getting to him. Colin a lot of shots
at his boy Michael LOBARTI who you and I know
I don't want to text Lombardy now he's going through it,
but it feels like things are nicy. And is it
the calm before the storm? There was a storm last week.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Now it's calm.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
You know what.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Whoever they're playing this week, nobody cares because I.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Think I think he'll get through the season. We'll see
what plays out. Oh that's as much as I'll commit to.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Okay, let's move on to the Dallas Cowboys. One of
the most famous owners in the NFL, Jerry Jones ducked
the media very cowardly after the loss to Carolina, and
all the sudden, the discussion shifts from Jerry to Matt Eberflus,
the embattled defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
You know him.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Well, here's what Jerry said about Iberflus.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
He's had tremendous experience. He's dealt with adversity, with a
long record not only with US, but with his tenure
at Chicago in Annapolis, and he's had some great successes,
had some very great successes, but he's had his tailcake.
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That's who. I won't end the Foxell with me because
there's no such thing as having all the answers.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just giving Jerry a little bit
of a pass. I think this staff has overachieved. I
think defensively, they weren't good last year with Micah, so
I'm not going to be too harsh this year without him.
You knew you were going to lose the trade until
next April. I listen, last year, come on, yeah bad
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last year. They've also played you know, they got Philadelphia
in Week one. Philadelphia was good Week one. You know,
They've they've faced Bell. They'll remain near the bottom of
the NFL offensively, But I think we knew going in
this was not a Super Bowl team with Micah. So
now they're not trapped. Now they have two first round
picks over the next two years, I think they're gonna
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be fine.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
They've faced Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, and Justin Fields, and
they're dead last in almost every category defensively. Colin, if
I'm eber Flues and I get a whiff my jobs
in trouble, I.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Go tell you know what I tell the media.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Hey, guys, you know Jerry Jones decided to wait and
pay our quarterback a billion dollars. You can't build the
defense when you pay Dak Prescott that much money. And oh,
by the way, then you trade away our best defensive player,
Michael Parsons, so we can't pressure the quarterback. We got
nobody in the secondary. This is on the owner, guys.
You can't, as a chef, hand the chef just random
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ingredients and say, hey, make me a Michelin star meal.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
It doesn't work like that, Colin.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
The ebra Flus has no chance here and this defense
has zero shot. I mean, Bryce Young dog walked them
for three quarters. Okay, that's all you need to know
about this Dallas defense right now.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
They're that bad.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And I think it's Jerry's fault.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
You're giving them a pass.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, it's going to pass. I just I didn't want
to resign Micah, so I'm gonna live with the results
for the next three months.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Okay, final story, Colin. You know we talked a lot
about the Bills last night. No love for Michael Pennix.
Michael Pennix was slinging it all over the yard through
for two point fifty and a touchdown. Probably should have
had a second touchdown if Drake London doesn't step out
of bounds at.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
The end of the half.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
I didn't love this though. After the game, Pennis talking
to the media, you know, very speaking very highly of
himself and his team.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
I don't feel like we played our football, you know,
I feel like we have more in a taint and
and for us to go out there and I win
that football game with the half the second half that
I feel like we had that that was a big law.
I feel like it's gonna be a scary sight whenever
we finished figure it out, and you know, all play
together and play play a full full game and not
just one go half, so that we we wanted to
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know was in fact, this team is really good. This
team is really legit.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well, Drake London, Bjeon Robinson are And here's the thing.
When Michael Pennix has time to throw, he throws a
beautiful ball. I mean, I thought last night he looked
really comfortable. And there's not a lot of great defenses
in this league. Kansas City's got a great defense. Name
the other great defenses. Rams defense is really good. There's
not seven great defenses. There's none in his division. So
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I mean, I I watched it last night, and you
know they're they're top picks, Pennis, Bijon, Drake London, they're playmakers.
Kyle Pitch has been a career disappointment. But this is
a this is a functional offense, and I think I
think Michael Pennix looks the part. I think he's exactly
what I thought he would be. When he has time
to throw, he throws a beautiful ball. It's accurate, he
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gets rid of it quickly. He's a pro franchise quarterback.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
It's interesting you bring that up. So they don't face
good defenses. You know who they got this week is
the San Francisco forty nine ers out of players on
Sunday Night football.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
But the only problem is.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
It's outdoors indoors. That Atlanta team look like a track team. Okay,
Bijon and Drake London. Drake London's established himself, you would
say as a one, right, he looks like a stud.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Oh absolutely, so you got a one.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You got Jon.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
I like Algiers, a change of pace back, I like
Penix the defense show.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well, are you starting to believe.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
In the Atlanta Falcons call and the team that loves
to let you down?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I think offensively they're a very interesting team. I mean
they they they beat who do they beat? Thirty nothing?
Speaker 7 (26:42):
Now they lost thirty nothing to the Falcons. That was
their hiccup there what everything that could go wrong went
wrong in that game.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, but I think it's it looks like a grown
up NFL offense with a lot of play. Even the
Bjeon Robinson run, he got tackled and he broke the tackle.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And these sensational.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Players, don't forget in the opener they had Tampa beat
and their kicker whiffs on like a forty five Yard
are at the buzzer or I don't know, maybe they're
they're considered better.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Than the Bucks right now.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
I'm just telling you, if you're buying stock, you obviously
want to buy last week before the Bills game. But
this is a Falcons team schedule not that difficult. Okay,
we like Pennix quarterback on a rookie deal. I know
they got the dead money and cousins, but things are
looking good for my Falcons.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd lot.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So we were talking an hour ago. I said, Blake
Snell was so good last night, historically good. He didn't
struggle the previous innings and he was at one hundred
and two pitches. I would have just pitched them in
the ninth because I didn't think it was a great
spot to put a rookie pitcher Roki Sazaki on the mound.
I didn't think it was a great spot. If I
was going to pitch him in the NLCS, that's a
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lot of pressure. I wouldn't want him facing a Milwaukee
lineup that gets contact. I wouldn't want him being on
the road in Game one A pivotal game. I wouldn't
want him having to go on the mound as a rookie.
After Blake Snell's performance and Blake's on the dugout steps
watching you, I felt. I felt Rokie was a bit
intimidated by the moment. He did not have great stuff.
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And I would have just I would have kept Snell in.
I think in playoff baseball, just win the game, do
not worry going forward, let itself figure itself out. But
here here was Blake Snell on being pulled last night
in the ninth crossing your fingers for the win, and
his reaction, I feel like you get it done the night.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, I mean I thought I could have. I trust Dave,
he knows what's best for the team.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, here's Dave Roberts on pulling him and was it tough.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I thought it was a tough one for me.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
Hadn't been in the ninth inning, eight ups potential going
on regular his next outing. I thought it was fifty
fifty rookie s meant on the baseball really well, have
a two run lead. I felt good with rookie there.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Okay, and you know again, so Dave Roberts is saying
it's fifty to fifty. Like I get analytics, I'm not
anti analytics. I do think playoff basketball analytics don't feel
I don't think you have to stay. I think analytics
and basketball and baseball are for a volume. I think statistically,
for volume, they work. But in playoff baseball, you'll use
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starters in the pen. You're going to manage differently because
you're facing the best batting orders, high leverage situations. You'll
trust guys in June against the Reds that you may
not trust against the Brewers in Milwaukee. So I think
you manage differently. I think in the NBA, the refs
don't blow the whistle in the playoffs, so you're just
your stuff that works in the regular season when teams
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are not equally arrested, you just play the percentages. In
the regular season baseball and basketball postseason it's more situation circumstantial.
So I would have just pitched. I would have pitched Snell,
but it was fifty to fifty and they pulled it out.
It was wild though Snell was just that change up.
It was insane. Milwaukee could not get bat on ball.
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He faced an eight innings the minimum twenty four batters,
and there was some stat about nobody done that since
Don Larsen. So I always think life. You know, if
you're a kicker in the NFL and all these guys
play three and a half hours and you go up
to kick it to win it, the pressure on delivering
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for the brotherhood, for your guys. How'd you like to
be a closer? You literally followed a Sandy Cofax level performance.
You're a rookie, You're on the road, It's Milwaukee, in
front of a hostile crowd, and you go up and
Blake Snell's on the dugout steps watching you like that
is enormous pressure, and I thought Roki wasn't quite ready
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for it. So great games though. They play again tonight,
Game two tonight.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
J mc colin, you remember, I think was oral Hever
Sizer at eighty eight. I'll never forget. He was so
good in that playoffs in the World Series. He was
on the cover of Sports Illustrated. That was my introduction
to the Dodgers. I haven't seen anybody as good as
him since last night. Blake snow he was that good.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, and the Mariners have taken a convincing You might
as well shut that series down. A convincing too Love
lead on the Toronto Blue Jays. Very exciting to nil,
too Love nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Are you playing tennis again?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Bagel? So exciting for the Mariners, So exciting for the
Seattle Mariners. Hey, get used to it. This is where
they're gonna be for the next week, two weeks,