October 15, 2025 • 31 mins
Colin has more on the Dodgers going up 2-0 on the Brewers in the NLCS and how Manager Dave Roberts is handling the pitching staff in the series. Colin also discusses how patient the Jets will be with HC Aaron Glenn.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hey, Colin, you're a front runner. You like the Dodgers,
and I like good restaurants and nice bourbon. I mean,
what am I supposed to like? Average stuff?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Like?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Who wants to watch bad baseball? I like the Mariners
when they're good again. I didn't like them for about
twenty five years. I like the griffy Mariners, and then
I got frustrated. Got to keep yourself happy. This whole
loyalty thing that's for the birds, all right. Eric Mangini
is joining us. I'm sure he loved that. First things First,
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you loved it being kind of a marcious, So it's
pretty exciting. It's pretty exciting when you watch something like
Drake May happen and you're like, Wow, they've got their guy.
Do you think Mike Vrabel is even a little surprised?
Like end of last year, Drake to six games. Drake,
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I mean, Eric, he looks really good. He's got one
awful pick this year. You think Rabel's even surprised a little.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah, I'm really surprised. When you and I have talked
about him in the past, I thought he looked a
lot like Sam Darnold coming out of college and Sam Darnold.
It took a lot of time, and now he's seems
in the last year and a half becoming the quarterback
that people thought he would be. But that's who I
saw in the first year, saw elements of that as well.
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The biggest benefit to me is Josh McDaniels and the
combination of Josh McDaniels and Mike Rabel. Josh does a
great job of creating an offense that quarterback can be
successful in, and he's done a great job with young
quarterbacks historically. Remember he brought Mac Jones to the Pro
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Bowl when they were together, and Mac was first there.
So the progress that he's made is substantiale I think
he's got a chance to continue with it just based
off of that combination of him, Josh and Braves.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Speaking of young quarterbacks, I said this about Caleb the
two big concerns in college consistent accuracy still a problem
and playing with instructure. Now I think the latter has
gotten better. He's holding the ball a bit too long,
but I do think he's playing with instructure. I mean,
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this kid could run every play if you wanted to.
He's really special. But the accuracy thing, Eric, I don't
know if you ever come into this league and your
accuracy is inconsistent. I guess Josh Allen has cleaned it up.
When you look at Caleb, what's correctable and what does
Ben Johnson just have to live with.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I'm encouraged by Caleb and and you see the wild
plays from him, and then we've seen it over the
last two years from him, but there were all the
mistakes and all the other problems that that went with that,
and and the encouraging thing to me this year is
is sacks have come way down. That that's that's a
that's a big issue, that's been a big issue for him.
And the fact that he's improved there I think is significant.
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And every game that he continues to play with Ben Johnson,
Ben Johnson gets to know him better, he gets to
understand the system better. Now he's gotten some wins. He's
strung some wins together, so there's confidence that that he's having,
and then the guys around him start started getting confidence
and that that can be contagious. So it's it's not perfect,
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but it's it's a lot better and and it's encouraging.
And he's going to be graded at a pretty significant
curve because of where he he came in. But but
to me, if I'm a Chicago Bears fan, I think
there's a lot to be happy about.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So I tend to watch and I've done this for years.
Sometimes I'm I'm maybe I'm generalizing, but I do watch
body language, and I do watch coaches, and I do
watch quarterbacks. And I remember Jay Cutler early in his career.
I'm like, I don't like his body language out on
the sideline title. Yeah, I didn't like Kyler Murray and
I like Cutter. I don't like his body language. I've
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been critical of Aaron when he was a packer in
his prime, and you know, I just I you know,
I kind of look at Sean Payton and I thought
last week in London he got frustrated with bow Nixt
a couple of times. And I think between Mims, Courtland
Sutton and Franklin, Evan Ingram Eric. Those are good players.
Those are guys that can beat you and separate down
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the field. You could have a really nice rangy deep game,
and Bo's not good at it right now. He struggles
in the deep ball, like missing badly. And I kind
of watched Seawan and I thought, Sean, this is this
is now? Okay, kid, you know you've had twenty stars.
What do you do when you realize your your quarterback
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may have a hole and you can't necessarily fix it.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, It's it's hard when you're in that situation, and
it's it's hard when you're Saun Peyton. Think about all
those years that he lived with Drew Brees and all
the things that Drew Brees could do, and it wasn't
just what he could do athletically, but it's what Sean
was able to do with the offense creatively, whether it
was shifts, motions, multiple personnel groups. They put so much
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pressure on you as an offense because of what the
two could do combined. So now Sean wants to be
able to do all those same things offensively, but he's
got a guy that has limitation and it's not just
the physical limitations, but it's an experienced limitation, and unfortunately,
he's gonna have to continue to be patient with it,
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and they're gonna have to have a consistent running game.
Against the Jets, they couldn't run the ball very well. No,
they they had an offensive lineman. Their guard was subbing
in and and he was actually hurt during the game.
He's now on ir So there are problems on the
offensive line. There are multiple penalties that that hurt him
as well. That the luxury they have in Denver is
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they're getting saved by by the defense, so Knicks can
continue to struggle because the defense keeps saving him. I
just don't know at what point Sean's gonna gonna need
more out of his quarterback before, you know, before he
just gives.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Up on bow.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
But he's not there. And the other thing you hear
from Sean all the time is cut it loose. You
know what, what are you telling about Nicks? Move on
to the next play. Cut it loose, Cut it loose,
And it just doesn't seem like he's comfortable enough taking
some shots.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, the the Buffalo Bills, Nick right, who you know,
occasionally will draw out a gym. So Nick said he
went and looked it up that you gotta win with
your star quarterback if you don't get to super Bowls
and start winning them when you get that star quarterback
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like you know, a Brady in New England or Mahomes
or whoever the quarterback is, Big Ben Mike Tomlin very
early got him to a super Bowl. If you don't
do it in the first five years, it's not going
to happen statistically history of the league. They get expensive,
they get beat up. You have to make sacrifices now
with a hard cap like you got to you got
to make when the macon's good. And the truth is,
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I can think that Sean McDermott is very organized, and
also think in a world of Hardbaugh and Reid and
Sean Peyton and the AFC Shane Steiken. Now that defense
has let Buffalo down in these big games and now
it's a mess. They cannot star run camp. At what
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point it sounds weird Belichick's been fired, Andy Reid's been fired,
Rabel's been fired. Are we getting to a point here
as a GM You got to say, guys were going backwards.
We may need a change at the top.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I can't imagine they're at that point right now. And
to Josh Allen's credit, he didn't come in as anywhere
close to a finished product and he got significantly better.
And the reason he won the MVP last year is
he took care of the biggest problem he had, which
was which was turnovers. And now this year those turnovers
are starting to creep back up. And last game, you
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could look the two picks and the one pick didn't
lead to points, you know in the first half, and
the second pick they were down by ten. You know,
they would add to you have an ounce, I take it,
but it's still it's still a turnover, and it's still
something that had he had pretty much eliminated last season.
But I would imagine if you're Josh Allen, you feel
like you got to be Superman when Bjon Robinson's for
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one hundred and seventy yards and then and then what
is it, Drake London has ten catches for one sixty
or whatever he had, and it's just it's just so
hard because he wants to play in the way that
that brings him success. But when when you're sitting on
the sideline and they're running up and down the field
on you and you can't get back on the field.
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You have you feel like you have to be Superman
every play, And to me, that's that's what hurts Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, wrap it up with this. Did you ever think
Baker Mayfield would be this good?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And you and I talked about Baker a lot when
he first came out, and I felt like it was
it was different than confidence. It was a lot of
arrogance early on, and that served him well to some degree.
And I think the sort of hero's journey that he's
gone on with with being traded by the Browns and
then a couple of different stops, now getting Tampa Bay,
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it's not it's not air against anymore. It's confidence and
and that, to me, is is different and it resonates.
And even as he's playing these guys that he you know,
that haven't had playtime, he appreciates those guys. He enjoys
having those guys because he's he's been there. He's been
the guy that had to climb back up up the mounds.
(10:18):
So h that this new version of Baker two point
oh or three point oh, it's it's really good. And
the main concern I have for him is he takes
a lot of chances physically. Yeah, and I just don't
know if that if that's sustainable over the course of
the season.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah. Hey, one more. You coached in New York. Uh,
and the Cleveland media where you coached is also pretty bitter.
But in New York they're not bitter. They're aggressive. And
I think that the New York, Boston, Philadelphia media feeds
into it that you have to be aggressive because your
your rivals at the local newspaper, TV station or talk
radio station or aggressive. So you can come in as
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a fairly passive guy and you've still got to be
aggressive because the New York, Philly, Boston media it's you
got to have teeth, you got to have bite and
so as you know, and but Eric, you were man genius.
They loved you initially they did. They loved you, and
then they can be tough on people you. You were
welcomed the Aaron Glenn thing after this past weekend with
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the coaching at the end of the first half and
at the end of the game. Owners now fire after
one year. They're all billionaires. They're not one hundred millionaires.
They're billionaires. What's too early to fire a coach? What
would surprise you if Aaron Glenn got fired in three weeks?
Would you be shocked?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, I would be shocked. But here's here's what I
think is fair from from an ownership perspective. And when
you come in as a head coach, you outline your vision,
you outline your values, you outline your process, and as
the season unfolds, it may not go the way that
you wanted to. But if you can show to the
ownership how that, how the vision is your movie towards that,
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how you're reinforcing the values you said their team was
going to have, and how your process is making some
sort of of progress, then then ownership can take a
look at that and say, okay, we'll we'll be patient.
But part of being a head coach, and especially a
young head coach, is there needs to be some humbleness too.
You can believe wholeheartedly in what you're doing, but you
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need to have a little bit of humbleness to know
that you don't know everything. And then you also need
to have the strength of character as to when you
make a mistake to say, okay, I'm going to change this.
I'm not just going to stick with this because it's
a decision I made. And and that's the that's the
line that you walk as a new head coach, and
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especially a new head coach that's not having success. And
then you have the game like you had last week,
where there's historic, you know, numbers that that aren't very good.
Woody Woody is is patient to a point. I wouldn't
put them on the high pay scale, but you better
be able to show something positive based off of what
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you brought in.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, you know the Jets, you know, they argued to
the media, Hey we gave Sola years. I always have
this theory that if you've got a really smart guy
in the building, like Mike Rable, you don't let him go.
It's I got a company like like I thought Robert
Solo was too good of a defensive coach to fire him.
You know, I if you're going to do it, man,
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you better have somebody ready, not an interim guy. I
I just when I watched that game against Denver, it
was a little malpractice there. Some of that coaching did
not make any sense to me at all.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, and then and look, if you have a game
like that, you can't go up and sit in front
of the media and lecture them and and and tell
them they know better when when they asked you a question,
they're not going to stand for that. They they've been
watching a lot of football for a lot of years
and and they're really knowledgeable. So if you're going to
start lecturing from your podium after getting a beat down,
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you better be ready for the repercussions.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Eric Mangini, first things first, he'll be fighting off Nick Wright.
You know, the only downside of the Chiefs winning is
you know those shows get you know what see Centric.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
No, it's not that I'm fine with it being a
lot of Chiefs. I just don't want, you know, Nick out.
They're using the hammer whack a mole on all his
panelists there. He could be kind of tough on you guys.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So yeah, I mean, you know, they win one game
after having thirteen penalties against Jacksonville, and they're going to
the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
According to Nick Nick, all right, great scene.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
We'll see it.
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J Mack with the news. Turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
This is the herd Line News, all right, Colin.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
We touched on the Penn State head coaching vacancy earlier.
This Marcus Freeman stuff. I mean, listen, Joe cladd addressed it.
I would say there's zero point zero percent chance that
Freeman entertains it. Wherever the Bears were looking at him
in January, Colin, that was in the National Championship in January.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
He's going back.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
To the playoff if they beat usc this weekend.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
What's your big favorites.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I cannot envision a world where Freeman even gives this
an ounce of thought. This will be a clear step
down for him. His next stop is the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Came Yeah, I think his next up is the NFL.
That's a good point. I I I didn't even think.
I mean, it's almost disrespectful to Notre Dame. Yeah, it's
like because I think Notre Dame is a better program.
I'm not going to put him in order, but I
think there's about seven programs that are just perfect. You know,
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you're Michigan, You're Ohio States. I think Notre Dame is
you know, everybody's got something. I mean Notre Dame. It's
tough academically. Oregon is kind of out. You know, Oregon's
not a state with a lot of division on high
school players. Ohio State's about as good a program as
you're going to get where you can get anybody mostly in.
It's committed, it's got money.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Columbus is a sizable city. There's stuff to do there.
You can take a recruit out, there's stuff to do.
It's a fun town. So I'm I mean, now, listen,
Brian Kelly left Notre Dame for LSU. So I think
it's a great job. But I think the Notre Dame
job is one of those eight years and it's great,
Like it's like Yank managing the Yankees, like it's just
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I mean, Aaron Boone I know fairly well. You know,
I've had dinner with Aaron before and we've had a
lot of conversations before he was the Yankee manager. I
think his personality is built for that job, and maybe
Marcus Freeman's. But you know, Brian Kelly was so intense.
The intensity of the job wore him out, and maybe
Brian wore himself out. But I do think I think
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it's a good point. I think Freeman's next stop is
an NFL job, and I think if he coaches seven
or eight years, he'll have so many of his players
in the NFL that he'll enter somewhere in the NFL
that's got five guys from the Irish on the roster
and he can draft three more, and I think that matters.
I think Harbaugh, you know, he's got so many guys
around the league that he's touched that are you know,
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so there Jim came in the second time, he could
bring his staff. He had the quarterback that you know,
the LA media is not as relentless and doesn't have
as much bite. So I think Freeman about six to
eight years at Notre Dame and then he's in.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It could be shorter than that. And I forgot you
just talked so glowingly about Ohio State. Freeman's got some
connections to Ohio State. So I guess that's enough. If
Ryan Day says I've had enough, I went back to
back whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm out. I'm going to the NFL or time whatever
it is interesting. Brian Kelly went Notre Dame, LSU, Lincoln, Riley, Oklahoma, USC.
I mean it happens. I just don't think it happens here. Yeah,
it definitely doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I mean, listen, I want to push back on what
Klatt said, and I got to ask you this, like,
doesn't it not look good if you're Penn State and
you're calling, Hey, let's call Nick Saban, let's call Marcus Rude,
and then you're calling all these guys in whipping. I
know the perception, who cares what the outside things. But
at the same time, Colin, doesn't it look like, well, maybe.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
This isn't a great job.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
If those guys are not even entertaining it, is it that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Good of a job.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Good point again.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Just all right, let's move on to story you've been
waiting for for two hours. Skinny Luca making his preseason
debut cooking, I mean cooking the Phoenix Suns twenty five,
seven and four, only played twenty two minutes. Basically unstoppable.
I liked that he was getting to the line. He
looked a lot more spry. Skinny Luca pretty much unstoppable.
(19:13):
Colin I know NBA preseason it's fantastic. Go ahead, rip
the Suns take shots.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No, I mean, listen, it's nobody dominates G League players
like Luca. I do think between Lebron's injury and Luca's,
I mean, he does look just different. He looks like
rookie year Luca so am. I. I think he's going
to dominate possession time like he's going to lead the
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NBA and ball in hand, he's going to lead it,
and I think he should as Lebron's aging. I said,
Lebron's going to have to play off ball more than
he's ever played because Luca's not given the rock up
and Austin Reeves likes the ball, and they're both younger,
and they're both in their athletic prime. So I think
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that's not a terrible thing for Lebron. But this is
now skinny Luca is thirty two points a game, Luca,
and it's and it's ball centric Luca. And at this
point I'm okay with that. I think Lebron should downshift
to sixty games. And and by the way, thirty three
minutes tonight, that's where I think Lebron's at.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And also, listen, Luca's doing small things. I know you
don't follow the Lakers on social media, but he took
the team to a car dealership and they raced around tracks.
He's like switching jerseys with players at practice. He's you
can tell that clearly that offseason talk with the GM,
and he's taken on a leadership role with the Laker.
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Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Here's another little thing. Did he did he talk about defense?
But playing defense? That little thing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, he's a solid defender when he wants to be.
I think he's gonna be locked in this year.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I know the car dealership was cute. If he could
guard somebody, I'd appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
All right.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I see what we're doing here.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
We're pushing back on the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Season ahead final story, Colin is, this is a little
wacky again. It's goofy to talk MVP, it's goofy to
talk playoffs. But Colin, we have an image here of
the top seeds the current playoff teams through six games.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
This is about thirty five percent of the season.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Colin, your Kansas City Chiefs are not currently in the playoffs.
That's how rotten they've been. Now this will be a
crazy playoffs. If this holds, it won't no Joe Burrow,
no Lamar Jackson, no Patrick Mahomes. I'm I don't know
that the NFL is ready for a postseason like that.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Jackson Jackson, Bill's gonna unravel. I think the Chargers when
Alton Hampton come back, will stabilize. I think Kansas City
for sure is gonna make it. I'm not sure Buffalo will.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh sheez, you're overreacting.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Come on, okay, you're.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Not sure Buffalo is gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Have you seen their schedule?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Could we get the bill schedule on the screen?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Cowhert needs to see twelve wins.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
They're gonna be fine.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Brokay, oh my god, Now make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I'm just saying Denver Chargers, Chiefs could all make the
playoffs from the AFC West. And by the way, the
Colts are a playoff team. Yes, okay, Well what of
Houston this week? See Houston goes Seattle, Seattle and that's
a two and a half three point spread. Houston wins
that game. Okay, Jackson Bill's good. Remember these Southern conferences.
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I mean, it's just easier schedules. So I New England's
not going away. Here's a bill schedule.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So right, they're on a buy this week, licked their
wounds come out of it. They'll smash the Panthers. The
matchup with your boy Patrick Mahomes. Bill's will win that,
so they'll be six and two. Then they beat the
Dolphins Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Go either way.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I guess Houston, you know, you know what, I see
a lot of apps and a road down line. App Ah,
Houston at Pittsburgh, I see a lot of apps. At
New England, I don't those games. Those are Hey. That defense,
I just watched them get pushed around by Atlanta. Drake
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London had ten catches. Fat, don't tell me there are
bad run defenses have a way of keeping Josh Allen
on the sidelines. The worst thing you can have when
you have a great quarterback is a bad run defense.
You can have holes everywhere. Your run defense is bad,
You're in trouble because that means John that you're gonna
lose time of possession. Teams are gonna convert third downs.
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This run defense is horrible for Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Well, just like how Raci Rice is gonna save the Chiefs.
Matt Milano one of the great linebackers in the NFL.
He's coming back from injury soon after the buye. He'll
save everything. He'll stop, He'll plug the run defense holes.
Bill's a winning eleven or twelve games.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Calling, all right, jmck with the news.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
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Speaker 1 (25:08):
Part of baseball that is fun that you can play
along with baseball, and you get into these high leverage situations.
So in Game one, Blake Snell pitched for the Dodgers
and was as good as anybody has been since they
said Don Larson. It was Kofax level. And then Dave
Roberts decided, even though he wasn't struggling at all, retired
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seventeen straight. Milwaukee could not hit the ball out of
the infield since the third inning, and they went to
the bullpen and I wouldn't have done that. It's game one.
Prioritized the moment, right, you prioritize today over you know,
setting up your bullpen. So Dave Roberts said after when
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they went to the bullpen and it was it was wobbly.
Dave Roberts said, it was fifty to fifty. So I
would have gone with Snell there. He was on fire.
They couldn't hit the ball of the outfield infield. He's
great over one hundred pitches. It's the opener, and I
don't want a rookie on the road taking over for him. Okay,
(26:13):
but yesterday was different. So Yoshi Imamoto was not as
good as Snell, though dominant, but you already had a
one oh series lead. You already had a one oh
series lead, and you had a four run cushion. And
now it's game two. There's less pressure, so to me,
a lot of it. It's so circumstantial and situational. Okay,
(26:35):
I want to win a game before I experiment. I
wouldn't have gone to the bullpen with Snell because I
just want it's game one. He'll have plenty of rest.
But Dave Roberts, I mean even the announcers last night,
we're speculating what is Dave Roberts going to do now
here with Yoshi?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And now, if you're Dave Roberts, you have to start
thinking seriously about allowing Almimota to finish this game.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
I don't think he's going to finish this thing just
because of the big delay in the eighth inning, because
the offense of the Dodgers. He's going to give him
this inning, and I think Vanda will probably finish it
in the ninth. But let's see, I mean, we're watching
baseball from the seventies and eighties now with this kind
of starting pitching by the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, I you know, it's listen. It worked, and so
backseat Driver is sort of powerless. It worked. I just
would have done the opposite. I would have stuck with
now and gone to the bullpen. But you know, it worked.
And I also think, you know, whatever analytics tells you
to do, Analytics basically wants you after the sixth inning,
(27:43):
they want you to go to the bullpen. But postseason
baseball is different. There's jobs on the line. There's so
much money on the line that you know, Dave's like,
I just like the look of him. I mean, just
think about what it came down to. Dave was like,
I like the look, I like the feeld, I like
the body language, I like the vibe. Here was Dave
roberts response after last night's decision.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
I see a real confidence. I think that's what it is.
I think that, you know, last year, certainly there was
a transition, and even in the postseason I didn't give
him a whole lot of leash. But I think this
year he's got true confidence. For me that third time
through at pitch ninety, he feels that he's the best option.
(28:29):
And so I think for me, that just gives me
that confidence.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know, think about this last year, as they were
battling in the playoffs, there were people that went out
and said, I don't know if Dave Roberts is the guy.
I don't know, But Aaron Boone gets criticized he's two
player friendly, and Dave Roberts similarly two player friendly. Let
me throw a theory out to you. So, I used
to work in minor league baseball, and baseball is so
(28:57):
different because the season is so long. If you start
with training until the end, you're with these guys for
two hundred, two hundred days, and the players have to
like you. They I remember Jimmy Rawlins, the former Philly
telling me it takes one guy to ruin a clubhouse.
Takes one guy to ruin a clubhouse. The players really
like Dave Roberts, and if you're going to make an
air like Aaron Booner, Dave Roberts the air or Pat Murphy,
(29:21):
the air has to be you were too loyal. NFL
is different. You can just cut guys, you can trade them,
cut them, get rid of them. It's a coach dominated,
GM dominated sport. But baseball you have longer contracts, more guarantees,
and you are together for so long that I'm going
to support like the player friendly manager, you're trying to
(29:44):
build trust. I would rather I would rather lose a
game in the short term, not in the playoffs. I'd
rather lose a game on loyalty. I think that'll play well.
I think that that I'm not saying ice cream for
breakfast parent, but I think Aaron Boone and Dave Roberts
tend to be very, very hospitable and trust my guy managers.
(30:09):
So I met last year they played the Podres. That
was the craziest series the Dodgers threw a bullpen game
and it was I think it was like a shutout.
It was an insane series. But they trailed the Podreys
last year two to one in the first round of
the playoffs, and there was and the Podreys were young
and cocky and had good energy, and then the Dodgers
(30:32):
eventually steamrolled them. But you know, I thought Milwaukee and
Philadelphia were going to give Los Angeles trouble. But the
bullpen's been fined because they're not using it much. I mean,
the starting pitching is just insane. And that's the Mariners
Blue Jay series. I mean, Yankees. Maybe if Garrett Cole
was available for the Yankees, it's different, But no Dodger
(30:56):
fan had great faith in the bullpen, and it's just
really Mo Sleeve been a non factor. Steamrolled Cincinnati and
Philadelphia and now Milwaukee. We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hey, Colin, you're a front runner. You like the Dodgers,
and I like good restaurants and nice bourbon. I mean,
what am I supposed to like? Average stuff?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Like?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Who wants to watch bad baseball? I like the Mariners
when they're good again. I didn't like them for about
twenty five years. I like the griffy Mariners, and then
I got frustrated. Got to keep yourself happy. This whole
loyalty thing that's for the birds, all right. Eric Mangini
is joining us. I'm sure he loved that. First things First,
(00:56):
you loved it being kind of a marcious, So it's
pretty exciting. It's pretty exciting when you watch something like
Drake May happen and you're like, Wow, they've got their guy.
Do you think Mike Vrabel is even a little surprised?
Like end of last year, Drake to six games. Drake,
(01:17):
I mean, Eric, he looks really good. He's got one
awful pick this year. You think Rabel's even surprised a little.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah, I'm really surprised. When you and I have talked
about him in the past, I thought he looked a
lot like Sam Darnold coming out of college and Sam Darnold.
It took a lot of time, and now he's seems
in the last year and a half becoming the quarterback
that people thought he would be. But that's who I
saw in the first year, saw elements of that as well.
(01:46):
The biggest benefit to me is Josh McDaniels and the
combination of Josh McDaniels and Mike Rabel. Josh does a
great job of creating an offense that quarterback can be
successful in, and he's done a great job with young
quarterbacks historically. Remember he brought Mac Jones to the Pro
(02:08):
Bowl when they were together, and Mac was first there.
So the progress that he's made is substantiale I think
he's got a chance to continue with it just based
off of that combination of him, Josh and Braves.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Speaking of young quarterbacks, I said this about Caleb the
two big concerns in college consistent accuracy still a problem
and playing with instructure. Now I think the latter has
gotten better. He's holding the ball a bit too long,
but I do think he's playing with instructure. I mean,
(02:44):
this kid could run every play if you wanted to.
He's really special. But the accuracy thing, Eric, I don't
know if you ever come into this league and your
accuracy is inconsistent. I guess Josh Allen has cleaned it up.
When you look at Caleb, what's correctable and what does
Ben Johnson just have to live with.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I'm encouraged by Caleb and and you see the wild
plays from him, and then we've seen it over the
last two years from him, but there were all the
mistakes and all the other problems that that went with that,
and and the encouraging thing to me this year is
is sacks have come way down. That that's that's a
that's a big issue, that's been a big issue for him.
And the fact that he's improved there I think is significant.
(03:30):
And every game that he continues to play with Ben Johnson,
Ben Johnson gets to know him better, he gets to
understand the system better. Now he's gotten some wins. He's
strung some wins together, so there's confidence that that he's having,
and then the guys around him start started getting confidence
and that that can be contagious. So it's it's not perfect,
(03:52):
but it's it's a lot better and and it's encouraging.
And he's going to be graded at a pretty significant
curve because of where he he came in. But but
to me, if I'm a Chicago Bears fan, I think
there's a lot to be happy about.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So I tend to watch and I've done this for years.
Sometimes I'm I'm maybe I'm generalizing, but I do watch
body language, and I do watch coaches, and I do
watch quarterbacks. And I remember Jay Cutler early in his career.
I'm like, I don't like his body language out on
the sideline title. Yeah, I didn't like Kyler Murray and
I like Cutter. I don't like his body language. I've
(04:29):
been critical of Aaron when he was a packer in
his prime, and you know, I just I you know,
I kind of look at Sean Payton and I thought
last week in London he got frustrated with bow Nixt
a couple of times. And I think between Mims, Courtland
Sutton and Franklin, Evan Ingram Eric. Those are good players.
Those are guys that can beat you and separate down
(04:52):
the field. You could have a really nice rangy deep game,
and Bo's not good at it right now. He struggles
in the deep ball, like missing badly. And I kind
of watched Seawan and I thought, Sean, this is this
is now? Okay, kid, you know you've had twenty stars.
What do you do when you realize your your quarterback
(05:14):
may have a hole and you can't necessarily fix it.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, It's it's hard when you're in that situation, and
it's it's hard when you're Saun Peyton. Think about all
those years that he lived with Drew Brees and all
the things that Drew Brees could do, and it wasn't
just what he could do athletically, but it's what Sean
was able to do with the offense creatively, whether it
was shifts, motions, multiple personnel groups. They put so much
(05:43):
pressure on you as an offense because of what the
two could do combined. So now Sean wants to be
able to do all those same things offensively, but he's
got a guy that has limitation and it's not just
the physical limitations, but it's an experienced limitation, and unfortunately,
he's gonna have to continue to be patient with it,
(06:04):
and they're gonna have to have a consistent running game.
Against the Jets, they couldn't run the ball very well. No,
they they had an offensive lineman. Their guard was subbing
in and and he was actually hurt during the game.
He's now on ir So there are problems on the
offensive line. There are multiple penalties that that hurt him
as well. That the luxury they have in Denver is
(06:24):
they're getting saved by by the defense, so Knicks can
continue to struggle because the defense keeps saving him. I
just don't know at what point Sean's gonna gonna need
more out of his quarterback before, you know, before he
just gives.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Up on bow.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
But he's not there. And the other thing you hear
from Sean all the time is cut it loose. You
know what, what are you telling about Nicks? Move on
to the next play. Cut it loose, Cut it loose,
And it just doesn't seem like he's comfortable enough taking
some shots.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, the the Buffalo Bills, Nick right, who you know,
occasionally will draw out a gym. So Nick said he
went and looked it up that you gotta win with
your star quarterback if you don't get to super Bowls
and start winning them when you get that star quarterback
(07:16):
like you know, a Brady in New England or Mahomes
or whoever the quarterback is, Big Ben Mike Tomlin very
early got him to a super Bowl. If you don't
do it in the first five years, it's not going
to happen statistically history of the league. They get expensive,
they get beat up. You have to make sacrifices now
with a hard cap like you got to you got
to make when the macon's good. And the truth is,
(07:39):
I can think that Sean McDermott is very organized, and
also think in a world of Hardbaugh and Reid and
Sean Peyton and the AFC Shane Steiken. Now that defense
has let Buffalo down in these big games and now
it's a mess. They cannot star run camp. At what
(08:03):
point it sounds weird Belichick's been fired, Andy Reid's been fired,
Rabel's been fired. Are we getting to a point here
as a GM You got to say, guys were going backwards.
We may need a change at the top.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I can't imagine they're at that point right now. And
to Josh Allen's credit, he didn't come in as anywhere
close to a finished product and he got significantly better.
And the reason he won the MVP last year is
he took care of the biggest problem he had, which
was which was turnovers. And now this year those turnovers
are starting to creep back up. And last game, you
(08:39):
could look the two picks and the one pick didn't
lead to points, you know in the first half, and
the second pick they were down by ten. You know,
they would add to you have an ounce, I take it,
but it's still it's still a turnover, and it's still
something that had he had pretty much eliminated last season.
But I would imagine if you're Josh Allen, you feel
like you got to be Superman when Bjon Robinson's for
(09:00):
one hundred and seventy yards and then and then what
is it, Drake London has ten catches for one sixty
or whatever he had, and it's just it's just so
hard because he wants to play in the way that
that brings him success. But when when you're sitting on
the sideline and they're running up and down the field
on you and you can't get back on the field.
(09:22):
You have you feel like you have to be Superman
every play, And to me, that's that's what hurts Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, wrap it up with this. Did you ever think
Baker Mayfield would be this good?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And you and I talked about Baker a lot when
he first came out, and I felt like it was
it was different than confidence. It was a lot of
arrogance early on, and that served him well to some degree.
And I think the sort of hero's journey that he's
gone on with with being traded by the Browns and
then a couple of different stops, now getting Tampa Bay,
(09:58):
it's not it's not air against anymore. It's confidence and
and that, to me, is is different and it resonates.
And even as he's playing these guys that he you know,
that haven't had playtime, he appreciates those guys. He enjoys
having those guys because he's he's been there. He's been
the guy that had to climb back up up the mounds.
(10:18):
So h that this new version of Baker two point
oh or three point oh, it's it's really good. And
the main concern I have for him is he takes
a lot of chances physically. Yeah, and I just don't
know if that if that's sustainable over the course of
the season.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah. Hey, one more. You coached in New York. Uh,
and the Cleveland media where you coached is also pretty bitter.
But in New York they're not bitter. They're aggressive. And
I think that the New York, Boston, Philadelphia media feeds
into it that you have to be aggressive because your
your rivals at the local newspaper, TV station or talk
radio station or aggressive. So you can come in as
(11:00):
a fairly passive guy and you've still got to be
aggressive because the New York, Philly, Boston media it's you
got to have teeth, you got to have bite and
so as you know, and but Eric, you were man genius.
They loved you initially they did. They loved you, and
then they can be tough on people you. You were
welcomed the Aaron Glenn thing after this past weekend with
(11:23):
the coaching at the end of the first half and
at the end of the game. Owners now fire after
one year. They're all billionaires. They're not one hundred millionaires.
They're billionaires. What's too early to fire a coach? What
would surprise you if Aaron Glenn got fired in three weeks?
Would you be shocked?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, I would be shocked. But here's here's what I
think is fair from from an ownership perspective. And when
you come in as a head coach, you outline your vision,
you outline your values, you outline your process, and as
the season unfolds, it may not go the way that
you wanted to. But if you can show to the
ownership how that, how the vision is your movie towards that,
(12:01):
how you're reinforcing the values you said their team was
going to have, and how your process is making some
sort of of progress, then then ownership can take a
look at that and say, okay, we'll we'll be patient.
But part of being a head coach, and especially a
young head coach, is there needs to be some humbleness too.
You can believe wholeheartedly in what you're doing, but you
(12:23):
need to have a little bit of humbleness to know
that you don't know everything. And then you also need
to have the strength of character as to when you
make a mistake to say, okay, I'm going to change this.
I'm not just going to stick with this because it's
a decision I made. And and that's the that's the
line that you walk as a new head coach, and
(12:43):
especially a new head coach that's not having success. And
then you have the game like you had last week,
where there's historic, you know, numbers that that aren't very good.
Woody Woody is is patient to a point. I wouldn't
put them on the high pay scale, but you better
be able to show something positive based off of what
(13:07):
you brought in.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, you know the Jets, you know, they argued to
the media, Hey we gave Sola years. I always have
this theory that if you've got a really smart guy
in the building, like Mike Rable, you don't let him go.
It's I got a company like like I thought Robert
Solo was too good of a defensive coach to fire him.
You know, I if you're going to do it, man,
(13:30):
you better have somebody ready, not an interim guy. I
I just when I watched that game against Denver, it
was a little malpractice there. Some of that coaching did
not make any sense to me at all.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, and then and look, if you have a game
like that, you can't go up and sit in front
of the media and lecture them and and and tell
them they know better when when they asked you a question,
they're not going to stand for that. They they've been
watching a lot of football for a lot of years
and and they're really knowledgeable. So if you're going to
start lecturing from your podium after getting a beat down,
(14:05):
you better be ready for the repercussions.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Eric Mangini, first things first, he'll be fighting off Nick Wright.
You know, the only downside of the Chiefs winning is
you know those shows get you know what see Centric.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
No, it's not that I'm fine with it being a
lot of Chiefs. I just don't want, you know, Nick out.
They're using the hammer whack a mole on all his
panelists there. He could be kind of tough on you guys.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So yeah, I mean, you know, they win one game
after having thirteen penalties against Jacksonville, and they're going to
the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
According to Nick Nick, all right, great scene.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
We'll see it.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Come.
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Speaker 2 (15:27):
This is the herd Line News, all right, Colin.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
We touched on the Penn State head coaching vacancy earlier.
This Marcus Freeman stuff. I mean, listen, Joe cladd addressed it.
I would say there's zero point zero percent chance that
Freeman entertains it. Wherever the Bears were looking at him
in January, Colin, that was in the National Championship in January.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
He's going back.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
To the playoff if they beat usc this weekend.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
What's your big favorites.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I cannot envision a world where Freeman even gives this
an ounce of thought. This will be a clear step
down for him. His next stop is the NFL.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Came Yeah, I think his next up is the NFL.
That's a good point. I I I didn't even think.
I mean, it's almost disrespectful to Notre Dame. Yeah, it's
like because I think Notre Dame is a better program.
I'm not going to put him in order, but I
think there's about seven programs that are just perfect. You know,
(16:22):
you're Michigan, You're Ohio States. I think Notre Dame is
you know, everybody's got something. I mean Notre Dame. It's
tough academically. Oregon is kind of out. You know, Oregon's
not a state with a lot of division on high
school players. Ohio State's about as good a program as
you're going to get where you can get anybody mostly in.
It's committed, it's got money.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Columbus is a sizable city. There's stuff to do there.
You can take a recruit out, there's stuff to do.
It's a fun town. So I'm I mean, now, listen,
Brian Kelly left Notre Dame for LSU. So I think
it's a great job. But I think the Notre Dame
job is one of those eight years and it's great,
Like it's like Yank managing the Yankees, like it's just
(17:02):
I mean, Aaron Boone I know fairly well. You know,
I've had dinner with Aaron before and we've had a
lot of conversations before he was the Yankee manager. I
think his personality is built for that job, and maybe
Marcus Freeman's. But you know, Brian Kelly was so intense.
The intensity of the job wore him out, and maybe
Brian wore himself out. But I do think I think
(17:23):
it's a good point. I think Freeman's next stop is
an NFL job, and I think if he coaches seven
or eight years, he'll have so many of his players
in the NFL that he'll enter somewhere in the NFL
that's got five guys from the Irish on the roster
and he can draft three more, and I think that matters.
I think Harbaugh, you know, he's got so many guys
around the league that he's touched that are you know,
(17:47):
so there Jim came in the second time, he could
bring his staff. He had the quarterback that you know,
the LA media is not as relentless and doesn't have
as much bite. So I think Freeman about six to
eight years at Notre Dame and then he's in.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It could be shorter than that. And I forgot you
just talked so glowingly about Ohio State. Freeman's got some
connections to Ohio State. So I guess that's enough. If
Ryan Day says I've had enough, I went back to
back whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm out. I'm going to the NFL or time whatever
it is interesting. Brian Kelly went Notre Dame, LSU, Lincoln, Riley, Oklahoma, USC.
I mean it happens. I just don't think it happens here. Yeah,
it definitely doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I mean, listen, I want to push back on what
Klatt said, and I got to ask you this, like,
doesn't it not look good if you're Penn State and
you're calling, Hey, let's call Nick Saban, let's call Marcus Rude,
and then you're calling all these guys in whipping. I
know the perception, who cares what the outside things. But
at the same time, Colin, doesn't it look like, well, maybe.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
This isn't a great job.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
If those guys are not even entertaining it, is it that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Good of a job.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Good point again.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Just all right, let's move on to story you've been
waiting for for two hours. Skinny Luca making his preseason
debut cooking, I mean cooking the Phoenix Suns twenty five,
seven and four, only played twenty two minutes. Basically unstoppable.
I liked that he was getting to the line. He
looked a lot more spry. Skinny Luca pretty much unstoppable.
(19:13):
Colin I know NBA preseason it's fantastic. Go ahead, rip
the Suns take shots.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No, I mean, listen, it's nobody dominates G League players
like Luca. I do think between Lebron's injury and Luca's,
I mean, he does look just different. He looks like
rookie year Luca so am. I. I think he's going
to dominate possession time like he's going to lead the
(19:38):
NBA and ball in hand, he's going to lead it,
and I think he should as Lebron's aging. I said,
Lebron's going to have to play off ball more than
he's ever played because Luca's not given the rock up
and Austin Reeves likes the ball, and they're both younger,
and they're both in their athletic prime. So I think
(19:59):
that's not a terrible thing for Lebron. But this is
now skinny Luca is thirty two points a game, Luca,
and it's and it's ball centric Luca. And at this
point I'm okay with that. I think Lebron should downshift
to sixty games. And and by the way, thirty three
minutes tonight, that's where I think Lebron's at.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And also, listen, Luca's doing small things. I know you
don't follow the Lakers on social media, but he took
the team to a car dealership and they raced around tracks.
He's like switching jerseys with players at practice. He's you
can tell that clearly that offseason talk with the GM,
and he's taken on a leadership role with the Laker.
(20:41):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Here's another little thing. Did he did he talk about defense?
But playing defense? That little thing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, he's a solid defender when he wants to be.
I think he's gonna be locked in this year.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I know the car dealership was cute. If he could
guard somebody, I'd appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
All right.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I see what we're doing here.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
We're pushing back on the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Season ahead final story, Colin is, this is a little
wacky again. It's goofy to talk MVP, it's goofy to
talk playoffs. But Colin, we have an image here of
the top seeds the current playoff teams through six games.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
This is about thirty five percent of the season.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Colin, your Kansas City Chiefs are not currently in the playoffs.
That's how rotten they've been. Now this will be a
crazy playoffs. If this holds, it won't no Joe Burrow,
no Lamar Jackson, no Patrick Mahomes. I'm I don't know
that the NFL is ready for a postseason like that.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Jackson Jackson, Bill's gonna unravel. I think the Chargers when
Alton Hampton come back, will stabilize. I think Kansas City
for sure is gonna make it. I'm not sure Buffalo will.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh sheez, you're overreacting.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Come on, okay, you're.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Not sure Buffalo is gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Have you seen their schedule?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Could we get the bill schedule on the screen?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Cowhert needs to see twelve wins.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
They're gonna be fine.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Brokay, oh my god, Now make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I'm just saying Denver Chargers, Chiefs could all make the
playoffs from the AFC West. And by the way, the
Colts are a playoff team. Yes, okay, Well what of
Houston this week? See Houston goes Seattle, Seattle and that's
a two and a half three point spread. Houston wins
that game. Okay, Jackson Bill's good. Remember these Southern conferences.
(22:24):
I mean, it's just easier schedules. So I New England's
not going away. Here's a bill schedule.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So right, they're on a buy this week, licked their
wounds come out of it. They'll smash the Panthers. The
matchup with your boy Patrick Mahomes. Bill's will win that,
so they'll be six and two. Then they beat the
Dolphins Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Go either way.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I guess Houston, you know, you know what, I see
a lot of apps and a road down line. App Ah,
Houston at Pittsburgh, I see a lot of apps. At
New England, I don't those games. Those are Hey. That defense,
I just watched them get pushed around by Atlanta. Drake
(23:07):
London had ten catches. Fat, don't tell me there are
bad run defenses have a way of keeping Josh Allen
on the sidelines. The worst thing you can have when
you have a great quarterback is a bad run defense.
You can have holes everywhere. Your run defense is bad,
You're in trouble because that means John that you're gonna
lose time of possession. Teams are gonna convert third downs.
(23:29):
This run defense is horrible for Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Well, just like how Raci Rice is gonna save the Chiefs.
Matt Milano one of the great linebackers in the NFL.
He's coming back from injury soon after the buye. He'll
save everything. He'll stop, He'll plug the run defense holes.
Bill's a winning eleven or twelve games.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Calling, all right, jmck with the news.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
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Speaker 1 (25:08):
Part of baseball that is fun that you can play
along with baseball, and you get into these high leverage situations.
So in Game one, Blake Snell pitched for the Dodgers
and was as good as anybody has been since they
said Don Larson. It was Kofax level. And then Dave
Roberts decided, even though he wasn't struggling at all, retired
(25:32):
seventeen straight. Milwaukee could not hit the ball out of
the infield since the third inning, and they went to
the bullpen and I wouldn't have done that. It's game one.
Prioritized the moment, right, you prioritize today over you know,
setting up your bullpen. So Dave Roberts said after when
(25:53):
they went to the bullpen and it was it was wobbly.
Dave Roberts said, it was fifty to fifty. So I
would have gone with Snell there. He was on fire.
They couldn't hit the ball of the outfield infield. He's
great over one hundred pitches. It's the opener, and I
don't want a rookie on the road taking over for him. Okay,
(26:13):
but yesterday was different. So Yoshi Imamoto was not as
good as Snell, though dominant, but you already had a
one oh series lead. You already had a one oh
series lead, and you had a four run cushion. And
now it's game two. There's less pressure, so to me,
a lot of it. It's so circumstantial and situational. Okay,
(26:35):
I want to win a game before I experiment. I
wouldn't have gone to the bullpen with Snell because I
just want it's game one. He'll have plenty of rest.
But Dave Roberts, I mean even the announcers last night,
we're speculating what is Dave Roberts going to do now
here with Yoshi?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And now, if you're Dave Roberts, you have to start
thinking seriously about allowing Almimota to finish this game.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
I don't think he's going to finish this thing just
because of the big delay in the eighth inning, because
the offense of the Dodgers. He's going to give him
this inning, and I think Vanda will probably finish it
in the ninth. But let's see, I mean, we're watching
baseball from the seventies and eighties now with this kind
of starting pitching by the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, I you know, it's listen. It worked, and so
backseat Driver is sort of powerless. It worked. I just
would have done the opposite. I would have stuck with
now and gone to the bullpen. But you know, it worked.
And I also think, you know, whatever analytics tells you
to do, Analytics basically wants you after the sixth inning,
(27:43):
they want you to go to the bullpen. But postseason
baseball is different. There's jobs on the line. There's so
much money on the line that you know, Dave's like,
I just like the look of him. I mean, just
think about what it came down to. Dave was like,
I like the look, I like the feeld, I like
the body language, I like the vibe. Here was Dave
roberts response after last night's decision.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
I see a real confidence. I think that's what it is.
I think that, you know, last year, certainly there was
a transition, and even in the postseason I didn't give
him a whole lot of leash. But I think this
year he's got true confidence. For me that third time
through at pitch ninety, he feels that he's the best option.
(28:29):
And so I think for me, that just gives me
that confidence.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know, think about this last year, as they were
battling in the playoffs, there were people that went out
and said, I don't know if Dave Roberts is the guy.
I don't know, But Aaron Boone gets criticized he's two
player friendly, and Dave Roberts similarly two player friendly. Let
me throw a theory out to you. So, I used
to work in minor league baseball, and baseball is so
(28:57):
different because the season is so long. If you start
with training until the end, you're with these guys for
two hundred, two hundred days, and the players have to
like you. They I remember Jimmy Rawlins, the former Philly
telling me it takes one guy to ruin a clubhouse.
Takes one guy to ruin a clubhouse. The players really
like Dave Roberts, and if you're going to make an
air like Aaron Booner, Dave Roberts the air or Pat Murphy,
(29:21):
the air has to be you were too loyal. NFL
is different. You can just cut guys, you can trade them,
cut them, get rid of them. It's a coach dominated,
GM dominated sport. But baseball you have longer contracts, more guarantees,
and you are together for so long that I'm going
to support like the player friendly manager, you're trying to
(29:44):
build trust. I would rather I would rather lose a
game in the short term, not in the playoffs. I'd
rather lose a game on loyalty. I think that'll play well.
I think that that I'm not saying ice cream for
breakfast parent, but I think Aaron Boone and Dave Roberts
tend to be very, very hospitable and trust my guy managers.
(30:09):
So I met last year they played the Podres. That
was the craziest series the Dodgers threw a bullpen game
and it was I think it was like a shutout.
It was an insane series. But they trailed the Podreys
last year two to one in the first round of
the playoffs, and there was and the Podreys were young
and cocky and had good energy, and then the Dodgers
(30:32):
eventually steamrolled them. But you know, I thought Milwaukee and
Philadelphia were going to give Los Angeles trouble. But the
bullpen's been fined because they're not using it much. I mean,
the starting pitching is just insane. And that's the Mariners
Blue Jay series. I mean, Yankees. Maybe if Garrett Cole
was available for the Yankees, it's different, But no Dodger
(30:56):
fan had great faith in the bullpen, and it's just
really Mo Sleeve been a non factor. Steamrolled Cincinnati and
Philadelphia and now Milwaukee. We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
It's a hurt.
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