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October 31, 2025 41 mins

Colin gives us his Blazin' 5 for Week 9 in the NFL. Also, FOX Sports NFL analyst Eric Mangini joins the show to discuss Chiefs-Bills on Sunday afternoon, Caleb Williams' progress in Chicago, and much more! Also, Colin wonders if the Dodgers can bounce back in Toronto to force a Game 7 in the World Series.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:25):
number two on a Friday, Blazing five. He's got its
own contrail right now. It is red hot four and one,
four and one, four and one. I have been banned
in Las Vegas. They won't let me off the plane.
I'm so hot. Welcome in. It's Halloween. Jamack going as

(00:46):
Austin Rivers Reeves Austin Reeves.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I mean he's only carrying the Lakers right now without
Luca Lebron.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
You know, Jmack a little j much with the gun show.
But whatever you know talking about I haven't worked out
all weeks. Come one. Sorry, that's a lie. Five, that's
a long Listen. Last week I did something I never
do with my picks. I said I'm taking all favorites.
I don't like favorites. This week, once again, I'm doing

(01:15):
something you shouldn't do taking road favorites. They tell you
don't do that. I don't love the numbers. I like
the numbers more this week than last week. I just
end up doing well last week. So the last couple
of weeks, it's a lot of favorites. But it's been working.
I'm gonna do it again, and here we go. Let's

(01:37):
blaze it up, fire it up. It's Collins blazon. Fuck
forty nine ers at Giants. I like the Niners minus
two and a half at the Giants without scataboy. Listen
the Giants. They're not playing clean football and the Niners
have the number two passing offense and the Giants pass
defense stinks. The Niners are two and zero after a loss,

(01:58):
and I like taking well coached teams after they play poorly.
The Niners last week not buttoned up. They're in a
bad move. No molak neighbors, no camskataboo. For the five
losses by the Giants this year, defense isn't very good.
Have been by twelve plus points. Too many penalties, they
give up big plays and I think mac Jones can

(02:20):
burn you. I like the Niners to win and cover
the spread. Twenty eight to twenty three Bears and Thingals.
I think it's a good matchup for Chicago. I'll take
the road favorite minus two and a half. Since Week four, well,
the Bears are four and one of the Bengals were
one and five, so there's that Bears didn't get turnover
advantages last week, but they generally do, and their offense

(02:44):
does lead the NFL in big plays. And the Bengals
defense this year is awful. Their last and everything but
third down defense and they're next to last with that.
They're one and five without Burrow, they don't run the
ball particularly well, and Joe Flacco banged up. The Bears
are not a great team, but they can be very

(03:04):
good when they get a good matchup like the Dallas
defense or the Bengals defense. I think Chicago wins and
covers the spread. Final score thirty three to twenty seven.
She said Bills. I like the over fifty two and
a half points. The over. Weather's going to be fine.

(03:26):
Third ranked offensive line Buffalo and the fourth ranked offensive
line Kansas City, so both quarterbacks will have time to
throw five straight games for Kansas City scoring twenty eight
or more, and their receiving tight end Cores is stacked
number one total offense in the last month, the Bills
averaging six yards a play, second best in the NFL.

(03:50):
Josh Allen when he plays the Chiefs, he'll run it
a bit more. But if you look at the games
between Mahomes and Josh Allen, the defenses struggle to make stops.
I think it's a classic Buffalo Kansas City matchup. I
think Kansas City's gonna win. Take the over fifty two
and a half points Seahawks at Commanders. I'm gonna take

(04:14):
the Commanders plus three and a half at home. Listen
Jaden Daniels hamstring and Laramie Tunzel hamstring both could return
second best red zone offense in the NFL, only behind
the Eagles. So if they can move the ball, they
can get touchdowns. They also run the ball effectively, and
I like that. The Seahawks are getting sloppy and a

(04:37):
bit reckless for me. I love Sam Darnold, but he's
gotten back to some bad habits right now. The Seahawks
offense in the last couple of games is sputtering. No
Kevin o'conddle in the building. Commanders win it. Take the points.
I like Washington twenty eight to twenty seven. Cowboys Cardinal Cowboys.

(05:00):
I'm gonna take Dallas minus two and a half. They're
just a very good home team, one of five teams
that hasn't lost at home, number one scoring offense in
the league, and at home. Strangely, they don't give the
ball away, only one giveaway in Dallas all year. I
just like what they do at home. Dak having a

(05:21):
really good season. Protections better than I thought. So is
the run game the Cardinals. That defense is banged up
and getting worse. Allowed twenty seven plus points in back
to back games. Again, this is really I'm taking Dak
at home over a better team. Who knows who's quarterbacking
for Arizona, but I think they're regressing. Dallas still believes

(05:44):
in that building they can make the playoffs and maybe
they can swallow the points. Dallas wins and covers twenty
eight to twenty four. So again I'm taking favorites. I'm
not prone to do that. Plus the over on the
Bills and achieves. With that, we bring in Eric Mangini

(06:05):
Jets Brown. So here's the word. Chris Greer has been
let go in Miami as the GM they're going to
keep Mike McDaniel. I believe interim coaches get you in
trouble because they come in, they win a couple of games,
the fan base in the media want the interim coach,

(06:25):
and that's not the best cancel. I would keep the
coach to the end. I'm going to throw something at
you and I want your reaction of the Okay, the
franchise has to move off to them. In my opinion,
I mean, it's a cold weather conference. I mean it's
all the good teams have cold weather. He can't do it.
So college football has changed. They have free agency. The

(06:47):
college coaches now with the Nile and the Portal, they're
like NFL coaches. They have to pay players to have
negotiate salaries. They have free agency. I would call Lane
Kiffen and I would say, Lane, you've seen of these
eight quarterbacks that everybody likes. You recruited him, You've coached
against him, You've watched tape against him. You had Jackson Dart.
You know the conference. Is it crazy to say the

(07:11):
coach selects the GM and that Lane may be a
great fit here.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, I think I think Lane could could definitely be
a really good fit in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
I don't know if that's what he wants to do.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
So it was it was he and Sarkisian right at
the Raiders as co offensive coordinators at one point, and
I could see both of those guys moving back into
the NFL. And and look, it's he's He's had so
much success in college football and he's really good at that,
and I think it'd be good in pro football as well.

(07:46):
It just depends on whether he wants to make that transition.
But I would imagine, considering his lineage and his experienced
the NFL, at some point he's going to want to
get back into the league.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
So you know, when you look at the Bills and
the Chiefs, I said earlier, generally December and January football,
you know this, Brady and Belichick super Bowls, with the
exception of the Rams game, they're all one possession games,
win lose. They're all one possession. The difference between Mahomes
and Allen is Andy Reid, outside of maybe Bill Walsh,
is the best offensive coach ever, and he wins those

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little situational moments. I think McDermott's a very good coach.
I think Andy's a legend. To me, the difference is
they both went to small markets, they didn't win a
lot in college. They're both insanely talented. Both franchises won
playoff games before they got there. They were well run.
To me, the difference is Andy Reid. It's not Mahomes
and Allen. It's kind of Andy Reid and these big spots.

(08:42):
Your thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, the coaching situation that Patrick went into was about
as good as you could possibly get because he not
only had Andy Reid, but he had Spagnolo on the
other side. And I know it wasn't great early there defensively,
but that stability from a coaching perspective is has.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Been really good.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
I do think though, there is an element of who
is better in the bigger moments and for years you
had Brady and Manning and how many Super Bowls would
Peyton have won if Tom Brady hadn't been around, and
it wasn't You know, there was an element of coaching
there as well, and I believe that, especially really early

(09:24):
in Tom's career. But there is also an element of
Peyton was around when the greatest player of all time
was around, and now Patrick Mahomes is arguably the next
the heir to that throne, and unfortunately for Josh Allen,
he's around when the greatest player potentially of all time

(09:45):
is around.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
So we've had a lot of discussions on Caleb Williams,
and I said, listen, here's the things.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
I like.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
He's coachable because I watch him on the first drive
as execution's excellent. He's not ridget or stubborn. He'll take
the coaching. Secondly, he has developed a nice relationship with
Roma Dunze. You can feel it. They trust each other.
Third is he's got an arm, he's got the tools.
I do think operationally it's not good enough and I

(10:13):
don't know if he's ever going to be sixty eight
percent completion? Guy? Where are you now? I like I
think they're a team that's good, not great. So I
like their matchup. I think when they face the Dallas
defense of the Bengals defense, they're more comfortable. I don't
think they're a good enough offense to face a lot
of discomfort. They can handle, you know, a little less
of a pass rush. Where are you on Caleb Ben

(10:35):
Johnson and the Bears right now?

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
I'm a lot like you Colin as I see the
good things that Caleb does week in and week out,
and then you get frustrated with the inconsistency of playing
and you want to see more development as a as
a quarterback, as a leader, as someone who can who
can run the offense effectively without without getting the you know,
the penalties that just just kill you. And it's interesting

(11:01):
last year when they were right before the Washington game,
or leading up to the Washington game, they were four
and two, and then they had that terrible, terrible loss,
and Kaylib had three games in a row where he's
below eighty and a quarterback rating. Here we are a
year later, they have the terrible loss of the Ravens,
and he's in a three game stretch of below eighty

(11:21):
quarterback rating. A year he moved with a totally different
head coach, a different team, different situation.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
So you're.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I'm disappointed that that that's where we are a year later,
and I'd like to see the jump happen.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Quicker.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I do think we have to go through this entire season,
and I'm optimistic that he's going to get significantly better
by the end of the season and take some jumps here.
Maybe over the next four weeks and then the four
weeks following.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
So I said there, it's not today. J Brown's a
bad guy. But if you look at the Eagles, their
most famous play is to Tush. It's ugly, it's an artistic,
it's a collective. And then he's standing over on the
sideline like, they're not built. They're not built around AJ Brown. Now,
most teams aren't built. I mean the Bengals are built

(12:13):
largely on Burrow and Jamar Chase. But I think AJ
Brown is a good guy. I think it's a weird fit.
Were you ever in a locker room, it could be
the Patriots, the Jets of the Browns where you loved
a player, but he wasn't necessarily a fit or great
for the room. And I mean Dez Bryant when he
was in Dallas, like Dak was better not having the

(12:35):
kind of babysit a superstar receiver. What do you do
with your Philly last week? No, AJ Brown's the best
of their offense has looked like since in.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
A year, Yeah, looks. It's a really tough situation with
AJ Brown. He's a great player, but there's a reason
that Tennessee moved on from him and we see great
receivers all the time where they get traded, and with AJ,
he wasn't happy they won the Super Bowl. He was
reading the book during the playoffs last year. Now he started,

(13:05):
you know, expressing his dissatisfaction publicly much earlier this year.
And Bill Parcells used to say that sometimes, you know,
guys are a little bit like a bucket with a
hole in it. No matter how much water you put
in it, it's always going to be empty. And as
much as you try to fix a relationship and as
much as you try to make things right, it just

(13:26):
doesn't matter how much you pour into it. You can't
fill it up and you can't make them happy. So
what ends up happening typically in situations like this is
the Eagles get to the point where they move on
from AJ Brown, and then AJ goes somewhere and maybe
has one or two years there, maybe maybe as a
different perspective on things and lasts longer. But it just

(13:49):
seems like this is this is one of those situations
where the bucket as a whole.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Okay, you're going to show some video here. I said this.
Sometimes I trust my eyes when you watch Drake May,
he's got to learn to slide. He's not good at that.
But when the ball comes out, it's got it's got
a little heat on it, it comes out tight. I
think he throws a very nice deep ball. Some of
it is my eyes don't lie. He just looks the

(14:15):
part telling your thoughts on Drake May.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, you know I I looked at him very similar
to Sam Darnold coming out of college because the amount
of touchdowns and interceptions and him getting together with Josh McDaniels.
I think couldn't have been a better situation. And we
see now how Sam Donald's progressed. This is years down
the line, but we're seeing all the potential that he
had and with Drake May, this has happened a lot,

(14:42):
a lot quicker. And I'm gonna show you the tape
Colin that you're gonna love. It's and if you're a
New England Patriots fan, you're gonna love this this tape
as well because it shows his development from a quarterback perspective,
and it shows his potential physically. So in this situation,
it's early in the game, they're sending Hunter Henry and
in motion to give.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Him a man's zone answer. What is it?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Man?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Or zone, and then they're gonna throw or they're gonna
fake that. They're throwing a wide receiver screen to Stefan Diggs,
obviously their biggest target, and then Henry and Mac Collins
they're gonna go up and they're going to try to
bluff the defenders. Get those defenders to bite on the
wide receiver screen to Stefan Diggs, and then ideally Hanter
Henry now is going to run a middle read. Mac

(15:27):
Collins is going to go ahead and he's going to
run a fade route and they get two on one
on the safety. So it's a little bit of a
gadget play that's on the front side.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Of this route.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
And then on the back side of the route with
Tayshaun Booty, he's going.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
To run a slam go. He's the isolation route.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
He's the second option on this, but they want to
hit the home run with the gadget.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Play on the front side.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
What New Orleans is doing is they're in straight man
and man coverage across the board, which means they got
they have one player deep that's.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Going to be the safety.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Usually he's in a post safety column, but they're going
to slide him over to the three receiver side where
Diggs and Henry are, and they're bringing a fifth guy
off the edge because they want to set.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
The edge on Drake May.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
They want to make sure that he doesn't have a
scramble lane because he's hurt so many people with that.
So as he comes back, he's going to sell the
wide receiver stream to Diggs, and he does a good
job of it. But what he's really doing is he's
looking downfield to see whether he's got what he's wants
from the coverage. Had the defensive back spit up, has
the safety bit up, and he doesn't have that. So
now he's got to look backside the booty and you

(16:27):
can see at this point booty is far from open.
He's locked down in man coverage. New Orleans has a
good rush. This is what I really like about Drake May.
So it's not there. He doesn't panic, he keeps his
eyes downfield. Look at how he finds the opening over
here to ha left the scene again, there's no panic,
eyes or downfield. He moves into that little crease and

(16:50):
then take a look at this.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
This is very Josh Allenesk. He's almost it's.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Almost like a jump pass. He's on one foot, but
you're gonna see he comes actually off the ground and
it's effortless.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Boot is nowhere near wide open.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
He's this is tighten man and man coverage, and you're
gonna see from this other angle how well this ball
is thrown. So there he looks slides into the crease,
and look how he drops this into the pocket off
of his back foot. So it's if you need a
reason to be excited, it's that he took a look
at at what the coverage was. The coverage wasn't there.

(17:25):
He's got patience, he's got poise, and then he effortlessly
throws the ball twenty five yards down the field and
in the bucket.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
It's a lot to be happy about.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, No, it just some stuff just looks right. Very early,
I said this when Justin Herbert was a rookie with
Shane Stike in the coordinator. I'm like, I don't know
if he wins playoff games. That's what a franchise quarterback
looks like. Drake May to me is the East Coast
Justin Herbert, I don't know what he does in January
that wins ten plus games a year. If he's standing

(17:54):
up right, he's too good. Not too.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, it's it's it's so good to see the development too.
That's what I was most worried about, is we're we
going to get to the same situation where we've got
fifteen touchsounds and eleven picks and he's making poor decisions.
But in that situation, good processing, good field in the pocket,
good looking down the field.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
A lot to be happy about.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Eric Manjini on a Friday, Great senior.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Coach, great senior And congratulations on all those honors, Colin,
so well deserved.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Thank you, that's very kind of you to say. I
certainly appreciate that. It was. We got to bed a
little late last night. It was a neat night being
inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. And thank you
to all the well wishers and the people that have
supported me through the years. Iheartradios, obviously from me, Radio
networks have been unbelievable. And we're again last night, so
Urban Meyer stopping by next hour, folks. The Lane Kiffin

(18:51):
stuff to me is, whether you like him or not,
Lane's got a presence. Lane's got a Samalpha. That's what
Miami's missing. I mean, they got to get the on
line right. They got to get the GM right more
than anything in the AFC, New England, Baltimore. Look at
all these teams that are good to THEFC. You gotta

(19:12):
get a big guy who can sling it in cruddy weather.
I know you plan the sun. Nothing is decided in
the September. In the NFL, nothing is decided. Everything is
decided after Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1 (20:08):
The worst part about the Ravens dominating win last night
is I wish when you put those Thursday night games
on and they're probably the best bet of the weekend.
I can't put it in Blazing five. So Baltimore felt
like a I mean, just you can just watch what's
happening with Miami. I'll say it again, Lane Kiffin's the
choice I think for Miami. I've talked to now two
general managers about it this morning. Remember when Lane Kiffen

(20:31):
went the Raiders, Al Davis forced in the draft JaMarcus Russell.
I talked to Lane about this ten years ago. He
didn't want to draft him. Nobody can win with JaMarcus Russell.
Don't blame the coach Shane Steikin last year. It's so
amazing how good Shane Steiken is. Again, it's like he
forgot football last year. Well, look at the quarterback play
like Kevin O'Connell. Everybody bangs on the coaches. If you

(20:55):
don't have the right quarterback, everybody looks incompetent. You gotta
get the cour quarterback right in Miami, and you need
a little bit of alpha. But you don't want to
give up too much innovation. Mike McDaniel smart, lot of innovation.
Kiffin would give you the innovation, more alpha. College football coaches.
Now they're CEOs. They used to just be recruiters. Now

(21:16):
they got a salary cap. Now they got to pay players.
Now they got to negotiate contracts the college guys. Jim
Harbaugh was basically a pro coach at Michigan. That's what
Lane Kiffin is. An old miss jmck with the news.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
No, no turn on the news.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
This is the herd line news. Be nice.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
If Lane got to pick his quarterback and he had
the choice of a guy like Lamar Jackson, who was
phenomenal last night, Colin, my goodness, we haven't talked about
it enough. Four tuddies in the role to victory over
halfless Miami error pro Miami.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Here's the interesting thing.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Baltimore now minus one eighty to win the AFC North Meeting.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
You got to lay one hundred and eighty bucks to
win one hundred.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
If you had this a few weeks ago when we
told you to, you might be a rich man.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
I'm not saying it's a lock.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
But we all know the dealers are a fool's gold
the Brown State.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I love watching Lamar Jackson play. Well, let me ask
so he didn't look as it's his first game back.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
He didn't look as fast and fleet a foot any right,
would you agree?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, I think he's probably at ninety percent. He's got to,
you know. I mean, I My take is quarterbacks first
game back from injury in the NFL is a brotherhood.
You want to play when you're hurt. You don't in baseball,
you don't in basketball. So I don't think Lamar Jackson's
one hundred percent health. He's probably ninety percent. And so
my take on it, he's not going to run as effectively,
he's not going to run as much, he's not going
to look quite as fast. He's fine, But in the NFL,

(22:43):
a lot of times quarterbacks especially will play hurt because
they know the beating their old linemen take and running
backs take and tight ends take. So quarterbacks tend to
want to get on the field and be part of
the room, be part of the brotherhood. So I don't
think I think brock Perty is gonna come back. He's
not going to be one hundred percent healthy. I don't

(23:04):
think Lamar was last night.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Upcoming five games for the Ravens here the quarterbacks. They
will face at JJ McCarthy, at Dylan Gabriel versus Justin
Fields versus Jake Browning versus Aaron Rodgers. That smells like
five and oh, maybe they slip up in Cleveland, which
does play tough defense at home, but four and one,

(23:28):
five and oh, just the Ravens are coming, folks.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Let's go to it.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Let's stay in the AFC North, go to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I can't wait for them to.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Fall off so we can stop talking about these guys.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
They're just not a good football team.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
They're to the point that Cam Hayward, one of their
defensive leaders, is calling out the team for having a
pathetic defense. Here he is ahead of the matchup against
the Colts.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
I just think we all just got to get better.
I challenge everybody.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
I challenge myself.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Foremost. You know, that's always the way I've been raised.
You can't look at anybody else. You got to look
at yourself. And you know the way to get this
bad taste our mouth is just play better football.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah. I don't understand the line here, so I stayed away.
I think the Colts are ten points better. I think
the good teams have pulled away from the Steelers, both
Green Bay and Seattle in Pittsburgh completely pulled away. In
the second half. I think the Colts will pull away
in the second half. I don't understand the line, and
when I don't understand stuff, I avoid it. But I think,

(24:34):
like Green Bay, you have a very efficient offense that
over the course of twelve possessions and that Pittsburgh hit
and miss defense. I like the Colts here.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, I'll try to help some people understand it. I'm
gonna save all my juice on this one for headlines
next hour.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
That's called the teas in the industry.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Mister Calhert. I'll try to help the folks understand.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Final story. Let's go to Wenby Colin. He was it.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Actually, Lat's say he's becoming must see TV. I'm not
ready to call him the best player in the league,
but he's pretty damn close. How about this line? Colin
twenty eight eighteen six assists, five blocks, The Spurs are
five and oh they covered the spread again last night.
I'm telling you they've been a good bet so far
this season. Remember, dude is awesome. Remember Remember the early criticisms.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I remember when he was coming in and they were
calling him the best prospect ever, including Lebron and were
and people were in and I think he is because
he can do things defensively Lebron can't. He just has
genetic size advantages. So but da knock was he'll get
pushed round my people. Yeah, I'm watching the video. Where
are the pushers? O?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Bam Manebayo dunked on him, but who cares? It's one
dunk and we talked about it. He's like, I'll challenge anything.
I love that attitude. I'm just saying, I know everybody
thinks the Thunder the best team in the league. Fine,
they're also undefeated. They're very good. I think it's worth
putting a couple bucks on the San Antonio Spurs to
win the title.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I'm not I'm dead serious coluing. I know they're young.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
They got the rookie point guard that they drafted, they
got the young kid Castle. They don't even have Dearon
fox back yet he's not even playing for them.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
He's like an all star level player.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
This is a really strong team and I don't know
if you how closer you can watch him, I'll be
shocked if they're not top.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Four in the West. Wemby in the middle has altered
so many shots.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Well, they all don't want to drive the lane on them.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Also, their starting five is really good. Yeah, von Castle
is a great player. I don't know about their bench,
but the starting five for the Spurs is Western Conference
final worthy. You just cross your fingers on Wemby's health.
Could you call him a modern Shack. He's as dominant,
but he's just different because he could hit three. I
think urable European bigs Alprin, Shangoon, Jokich, Wemby, they're as

(26:44):
skilled as our number two's are off guards are. That's
the difference. European players are more skilled at a much
earlier level than our domestic players. Yeah, you watch sh Goon, Like,
dude's got handles, he has a beautiful touch. He can pass.
I covered our Vitas Sibonis in Portland, like he was
the best passer on that Trailblazer team. Our Vetas Sabonis

(27:07):
the center was so our guys have been brute force
like Shack, you know, or our bigs have you know me?
I will say Bill Walton was ahead of his time.
He had sort of a European field where he could shoot,
he had touched, he could pass. Bill Walton was like
three decades four decades before his time. But largely these
international bigs they are in. They are so skilled and

(27:32):
it just separates them from other eras.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
So the baseball unicorn plays his final games of the
season this weekend, Oh Tani and the basketball unicorn ushered in.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
How about this. Remember last year when Wemby was taking
all these threes. Yeah, and I'm like, folks, he's seven five.
Get him closer to the basket. Stop with the math equations.
Wemby this year taking twice as many shots from ten
feet and in some of you analytic nerds, some of

(28:05):
you gms out there with your math equations seven to four,
get him close to the basket. We watch playoff basketball.
You know, all these teams that shoot threes, they have
these streaky halves where they're off. The Celtics will have
these halves and you're like, they're unwatchable. You can get
a bucket with this between Castle, between Wemby, you can

(28:29):
get a two. It feels like about sixty percent of
the time with the Spurs and there's nothing anybody can
do about it. Jmack with the News, Well that's the news,
and thanks for stopping by. The herd Line News Oklahoma
City was like, oh, the world's are oyster. We're gonna
win all these games. Good luck, good luck with Wemby.

(28:51):
I mean the good news for Okce. They've got chet Holmgren,
so they've got some size as well. But Wemby's just different,
and I remember that. Oh watch our guys. Domestic guys
will push him around. Dude, he makes six eleven guys
look small. He really does. His length is just insane.

(29:14):
Dodger Season on the Brink, Upset on the Horizon in
the NFL. Both next It's The Herd.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and noon Easter not a em Pacific.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Play the Fox Super Six NFL Challenge.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Download the Fox Sports app and enter for a free
shot to win your share of ten thousand dollars. One
of the questions is which QB will have the most
passing yards this week? Stafford against the Saints, Jordan Love
against the Panthers, Goff against the Vikings, or Trevor Lawrence
against the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
This is little tricky Colin. Who you got Matthew Stafford
against the Saints. Poka Nako is back? Can I throw
this out to you?

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Well?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Wait, hold on, what is Stafford's what, I throw up
twenty to nothing in the second quarter and they just
shut him down.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
They don't do that. McVeigh doesn't do that. I'll tell
you what's weird. Do you have Packers Panthers in your picks?
I do I have a weird feeling? Yeah, yep. I
looked at the numbers on this game. I came an
inch on picking the Panthers in this game. It's a

(30:22):
bit of a t I like saving the good stuff.
It's a trap spot. So they had an Aaron Rodgers
game last week, yep, they had Eagles next week.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's so easy to just be like, oh, hey, here
come the Panthers and the red rifle. He may start,
it's unclear Rice well Young is practicing. We'll see if
it's young, they got a shot. Just go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
If you go to Lambeau, just don't get all worked up. Hey,
come on, put your money where your mouth is. Nig guy,
Come on, take the thirteen. Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I was very close to taking him. I think it's
a trap spot for Green Bay. I think it ends
up being like twenty eight twenty three Bay wins. It's
very competitive. I'm just gonna say that right now. So
the Dodgers season is on the break. Now, I said this,
that's good for baseball. You don't want Katie and Warriors
where it feels unfair. The Dodgers are the only team

(31:14):
in baseball where if they lose the World Series it's
a failed season. Now, you could say the Yankees. But
the minute the Yankees lost last year to the Dodgers,
what was the first thing everybody said? Dodgers have much
better players, Dodgers are much better roster. Dodgers top to
bottom are the only time the Yankees competed when Garrett
Cole pitched. They look like an average team compared to

(31:35):
the Dodgers. I think a lot of the dodgers struggles
in this series are pressure. Last year the World Series,
the pressure was on the Yankees and the Dodgers. This
year it's all on La And I think you can
see it at the plate. They're getting non competitive at bats.
They're getting a lot of really bad at bats. Mookie's

(31:55):
flailing months. He doesn't look right. So I think baseball,
like golf, is one of those sports a lot of downtime,
it gets into your head. You can get in a
real slumps, even for great players. So I think the
perfect the magic elicks or to solve that is Yoshi.
So again, a lot of these Asian players come over

(32:17):
and they don't listen to American media. They don't care.
They come over, they've got a guru. They do their
own thing. They are from that perspective in the media.
They're removed from it. And this kid, Wired to Wire
has been an ace all of his thirty starts. He
is perfect mechanics, totally focused, unique personality. That is what

(32:39):
you need in Toronto. You need a guy that is
completely laser focused, is absolutely unaffected. He was an ace
in Japan, he's an ace in Los Angeles. I don't
know if they could win this series. I don't know
if the Dodgers could. They can even it up with
Yoshi because he's kind of the perfect personality, great mechanics,

(33:02):
totally focused, unaffected. Dave Roberts talked about him last night.

Speaker 8 (33:08):
I think, you know, he's pitched in huge ball games
in Japan, he's pitched in the WBC, and you know,
players that have the weight of a country on their shoulders,
there's that's pressure, and so I just feel that part
of his DNA is to just perform at a high

(33:29):
level in big spots and control his heartbeat and just
continue to make patches pitches.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
I've said this, there are advantages to your best player
being an international player. Like I've always thought, the international
basketball players come in more mature. You know, their families
are overseas. So when they come to America, these international
players like a Wenby or a Jokich, and a majority
of their family is overseas, and their friends and their

(33:59):
history and the culture they really feel embedded in. They
just come over here to play basketball. They're not distracted
at all. I think there's a huge advantage for a
lot of international basketball players. And there is a great
number of great Southeast Asia baseball players, and they come
in and they're not affected by our media. They're not
listening to talk radio or they're not you know, they don't.

(34:22):
They really come in totally focused. Yoshi is such a
unique personality. He's just unaffected by everything. He was an
ace in Japan. He's an ace here and there are
there you know. And I've said this before. When I
go overseas or when you go overseas, it is different.
I'm a visitor, I act differently. I tip differently. I'm

(34:43):
probably more generous with my time. I probably illustrate more patients.
You know, I change a little bit, a little bit
of a chameleon. When I don't know, I just I
just think I do. So a lot of these athletes
that are international athletes, they come over here and they
have a very unique focus, and I think sometimes it
is hard, you know, Like I've heard this from athletes.

(35:05):
They don't want to plan in their hometown. I remember
talking to Damon Stodhomyren once when he came back to
Portland and he says, you know, in Toronto he played
for the Rafters. He's like, I can go hide. It's
I can't hide in Portland. I've got all my family
and relatives and friends here, and so he said, you know,
it creates different challenges. So I like the Dodgers in

(35:26):
this spot tonight, but so far, the Jays have done
a much better job of making the Dodgers uncomfortable. And
the Dodgers stars aren't hitting, and so Toronto's playing with
a ton of confidence. They're playing downhill house money tonight.
They're the underdogs in the series. There's not a lot
of pressure, especially tonight. So I'll take Dodgers tonight, but
in the game seven, be hard to bet against the

(35:47):
Blue Jays. So I was saying earlier there, I think
the Chicago Bears have been fascinating with Caleb Williams. So
when these young quarterbacks come into the NFL, you can
see some that are immediately don't work. You know JaMarcus
Russell when he came into the league, like that doesn't work.
You know, Zach Wilson, It's like, I don't think that's

(36:09):
gonna work. And then there are those that immediately you're like, oh,
that works, like Jaden Daniels last year, Joe Burrow. I mean,
I think Cam Newton's first year, you're like, you're you're
gonna win some games with Cam Newton. And then you
get into these relationships where it's like Caleb Williams, where
you're like, okay, all new coaching staff. Second year, something's good,

(36:33):
it's hard. Here's where I think Caleb Williams is at.
I don't think he is at the place where he
can handle a ton of discomfort. I think when he
faces the Cowboys defense or this weekend, the Bengals defense,
he's got more comfort and extra beat to throw and
extra beat to make a decision. He can be highly effective.

(36:56):
He probably needs another fifteen starts to get to the point,
or he could face the Chiefs defense and be comfortable. Now,
some guys never get comfortable. Justin Fields has never gotten
comfortable against the league defenses. But Justin Fields will give
you these starts against bad defenses. You're like, oh, whoa.
But he's never been able to pivot to the quarterback

(37:17):
that can do it against great defenses. So I think
Caleb is in that. You give him the Cowboys or
the Bengals. I like the Bears this weekend, and it's
going to look different last week. Ravens are healthy on
the road, you don't get the time, a little more pressure,
a little better safety play, and it unravels. Eric Mangini

(37:39):
earlier on what he's seen from the Ben Johnson Caleb
Williams relationship.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
It's interesting last year when they were right before the
Washington game, or leading up to the Washington game, they
were four and two, and then they had that terrible,
terrible loss, and Caleb had three games in a row
where he's below eighty in a quarterback rating. Here we
are a year later, they have the terrible loss, of
the Ravens, and he's in a three game stretch of

(38:04):
below eighty quarterback rating. A year he moved with a
totally different head coach, a different team, different situation. So
you're I'm disappointed that that that's where we are a
year later.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, I listen the A lot of guys you know
instantly not gonna work. And there's a very small handful
of guys immediately you know that's gonna work. The majority
of young quarterbacks. It's the other seventy five percent. You
see stuff, But is it ever going to sync up?
Like I think officially Bo Nicks works, Jayden Daniels works,

(38:41):
Drake May works. I think Caleb, Williams and Pennix are
in the you know I need I need another ten stars.
But the good news for Caleb, He's got Ben Johnson,
Michael Pennix has a defensive coach, and I think that
stuff matters. So as we look at the NFL schedule
this weekend, I like I like the Bears against Dallas.

(39:04):
I like the Bears again. I think Caleb will have
time just an extra beat. We showed you yesterday the
quickest release time in the NFL is Patrick Malmes at
two point six seconds. The slowest is Caleb at three
point one. It's just a beat. It's just a one thousand,
that's it. It's just an extra beat, an extra step

(39:25):
for the receiver to get open. So the games I'm
really interested to watch. I want to see if JJ
McCarthy plays at Detroit. I want to see what it
looks like. Everybody loves Detroit. I'm staying away. Everybody loves
Green Bay. I'm staying away. A couple of weeks ago,
we had this where the Chargers were going to the
Giants and the Bills were playing the Saints, and everybody

(39:46):
loaded up on the big favorites. I like small favorites
this weekend, and one of the small favorites I like.
I like the Niners and I like the Bears, both
as slight road favorites.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Okay, big update here from NFL reporters Bryce Young. His
ankle is fine, no injury designation. He will start in
Lambeau against the Packers.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I haven't shifted over to the line to see if
it's moved, but that does something for you. I see
you grinning over there, almost like you're giddy to jump
on the Bryce Young Bamboos.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Also, brock Bowers is now healthy for the Raiders. Keep
your eye on the Raiders upsetting the Jags, and keep
your eye on the Carolina Panthers making it very uncomfortable
for three and a half quarters against the Packers.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
So I don't hate that, except for the fact that
I'll talk about it next hour. I just the last
time the Packers had success. Remember they win the first
two games over the Lions and Washington, and everybody crowned them, Oh,
they're going to be in the super Bowl, and then
they just started sputtering. They couldn't cover the spread. They're
not putting teams away, they don't have that knockout punch.
And I wonder after that big win on Sunday Night

(40:57):
Football over Tomlin, are they going to go back to
being the old Packers or did they unlock something because
then second half Colin they killed Pittsburgh. I guarantee I
think it was a twenty eight nothing run or something.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
If you ask Matt Lafleuur privately, I think he's terrified
of this game. Well, no, see, no huge favorite at home.
Coaches hate this spot. He'd rather go to Carolina and
play because the players would get more dialed in. This
is a top keep your eye, pack your nation,
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