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Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh we got a Friday show for you.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We are live, We're in Los Angeles. It is the
Herd wherever you may be, however you may be watching
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of your day. Blazing five hitting on a fifty eight
percent clip. That's like, what mob guys do? I mean,
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that is really Rowland fifty eight percent clip, Blazing five
and one hour Urban Meyer College football talking a couple hours. Well, Jmack,
I know it was windy, oh in Denver. But ten
first downs and eleven penalties not great for your guy,
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not great for bon Knicks. So if Sean Payton is
your head coach, PFF says, you have the best offensive
line in football. It's the Raiders defense. You have two
very capable running backs good, wide receiver court great.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I don't know good.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You gotta do better than ten first downs right now.
This team has ten more punts this year than Cleveland.
In my opinion, bow Knicks looks nervous. That's why he's
so bad in the first half. It's like he's trying
to please. Sean Payton feels the weight of the world
on his shoulders. He is nervous, side arming stuff, feels
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rushed when he's not rushed, skipping balls out of the
backfield like I get throws downfield.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
We're tough.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Last night for Bold quarterbacks it was win and he
denver gets that way we're moving into the winner. But
it shouldn't look like that. He looks nervous. He looks
like he's got a lot of anxiety, and he only
plays well most of this year. In the fourth quarter,
when he trails and has nothing to lose, he just
lets it go. Sean Payton now is trying to protect Bonnicks,
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and so he's making some odd compensation calls, like that
double pass on third and one. It's just a bad call. Well,
Sean Payton didn't get dumb. He's trying to protect him.
He knows that bo Nicks is not right upstairs because
this Raider defense hasn't made any quarterback look that bad
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this year. So the Broncos have one touchdown in their
last seventeen drives. They have more three and outs than
the Titans. Yeah, so I'm dead serious here. Sean Payton
is a very impatient guy. He also understands the urgency
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at quarterback, unlike a lot of coaches in this league.
I wonder because the roster, the O line, set the
D line, set the pass rush the receivers. With Sean
Payton draft another quarterback, I'm dead serious. Bow Knicks has
regressed badly. His completion percentage is now towing that backup
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quarterback line from sixty six and a half to sixty.
His passer rating is plummeted mid nineties to mid eighties.
He's gonna have more turnovers this year.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Again.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He is a significantly worse quarterback this year than last.
And I understand quarterback development is not linear. I think
it was Peyton Manning who suddenly had a really bad
fourth year in the league. I get it, you lose
a coordinator, you lose an offensive lineman. But this old
line's great, and we thought with bow Nicks. He was
one of these high floor, low ceiling guys. We knew
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he didn't have like Caleb Williams horsepower, but he was
a high floor guy.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
At worst, he'd be like b b Ish.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
This is the Ish, that old line that play caller
those running backs. And remember this, Denver's defense is staggeringly
good and aggressive. So bow Nicks, on average is getting
much better field position than quarterbacks in the league. I mean,
last night, you're getting really good field position. So I've
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gone from a bye to a hold to a potential
sell on bo Nix. I got seven straight weeks of
this stuff, and that last night was a problem. And
Denver's had an easy schedule. So now Kansas City comes
up off a bye. I don't care what the number is.
Take the Chiefs because this is a problem that's not
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getting better. We got Defcom three here, what's Defcom three
increase readiness? I'm I really look at this, and I
wonder if Sean Payton is talking to George at GM
and saying, you know, we got a stack roster here.
We don't have a lot of needs. You know, there's
like seven quarterbacks in the first couple of rounds. We
may want to roll the dice on them and sit
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them behind bow for a year. I think you're to
that point over and over and over. I mean, if
you put Josh Allen, Lamar, Herbert ma Holmes, I mean
there's like seven eight quarterbacks golf behind this group, this coach,
this line, look at that offensive line, he'd be blowing
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people out. I mean, the Raiders are a lost franchise.
Here's Bonex after a messy performance.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
He'll win a lot of games with the defense playing
like that. And then tonight we had a little spark
with some special teams plays, and then you know, we
just at some point we got to start moving football,
scoring points. I've been booed before and I'll be booed again,
so I'm not gonna be the last time. It's obviously unfortunately,
you don't want your your own fans booing you, but
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you know it's part of it.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I know the wind was bad. I wasn't that bad.
Let's talk Raiders briefly. When you pursue Geno Smith, the
Raiders gave up a third round pick and paid him
sixty six million guaranteed. The Seahawks got Sam Darnold for
no picks he was a free agent and only pay
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him fifty five million guaranteed. Seattle's John Snyder, really smart,
really good personnel guy. The Raiders they overpaid, over pursued
Geno Smith, who once again leads the NFL in picks.
I mean he can't figure out basic pass protection. It's
it's I mean, it's it's bad. And right now you'll
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be the worst quarterback in the league. The last two years,
Geno Smith has seven more interceptions than the next highest
interception quarterback. So it's one thing to settle at quarterback.
You should never settle at quarterback. It's another to pursue
the wrong one and stand. Sometimes you draft a quarterback
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and you don't really know how it's going to pan out,
because it's college football. To pro Gino has been in
the league as long as I've been at Fox.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
You got a lot of tape on me. You got
a lot of tape on Geno.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You gotta know, after all these years in the league
what a guy is and what a guy isn't. The
smart GMS are not pursuing pursuing surrendering a third round pick.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
The Raiders could have had Donald.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Nobody in the world thinks Gino's better than Darnald. So,
I mean, the other thing is brock Bowers. As far
as I can tell, I don't have the game. Film
is open on every play. How does he have one reception?
I don't even understand it. So Pete Carroll had a
full year away from football to modernize, to reflect, to
look in the mirror, to take stock, to evaluate everything,
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and he went back to Geno Smith. That ain't good.
I mean, your go at, that's old school. Geno Smith
twenty seven picks in the last two years, seven more
than the next guy. So the Raiders have earned fourth
place in the modern NFL. If you are tone deaf
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to quarterback, you're tone deaf to winning. And again, it's
not like Gino didn't have a resume. You didn't need
to go to West Virginia sophomore year to look at film.
You could have gone to last year. And Pete had
a year off to reflect. I offensively, I don't even
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know what the Raiders are. Here's Pete after.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Scoring points.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you guys, you know,
and it's as obviously as you can get.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The running game would have helped us in that regard.
But chick was trying.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
He was staying with the running game to try to
not let them tee off on us, and so yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Got to score more.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, you never want to settle at quarterback. A lot
of these defensive coaches, they're like, ah, Sam Howe midst Trubisky.
It's another to pursue sixty six million guaranteed in a
third round pick, to pursue Geno who's been in the
league forever and is a turnover machine. So you kind
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of earned your spot in fourth place. Denver's a different story.
Boennix was young. It's college, good rookie year. You think
he's gonna grow. Something's happened. He looks nervous. That's a
different feel. You do feel like, how do they right
the ship? It was so ascending last year? Raiders are
just why how.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
J Mac? We have ourselves a weekend? I tell you something.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I had this discussion with Danny Parkins at the network yesterday.
Sometimes we in the media, you know, we get on something,
we get really close to something, and you look at
something and maybe we should.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Take a step back.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Are you talking about the Raiders and Beef Carroll? I mean, listen, you,
Kenny Pete Carroll a pass here there's a veteran coach
who's like, we could win.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Now, let's bring in Gino Smith. I mean, this is
kind of a disaster.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I don't want to say Pete Carroll's won and Gune
there in Vegas, but Colin, I mean there's a veteran coach.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
They look awful, like genuinely bad.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
People are close to Pete Carroll, He's well respected of
the media.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Is he coaching this team next year? I don't know.
I mean the Raiders make a lot of moves. They
make a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I mean, listen, we know what is winning in this league,
young offensive coaches. We know what's not winning as much
and creating some angst older defensive coaches, Tomlin, Pete McDermott, right, Like,
we know young offensive coach Andy Reid's outlier. All these
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young offensive coaches, the Ben Johnson's, the Sean mcvays, Kyle
Shannan is still pretty young. That's what's working in the league.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Some of the.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Old defensive coaches like Ron Rivera, Tomlin, Pete That's what
we're kind of critical these days. There's some young defensive coaches,
Jesse min Er, Mike McDonald, and Seattle that have kind
of a new way of seeing things. So that's why
I've said for the Miami Dolphins, I would look at
Lane Kiffin. These young offensive coaches. You don't have to
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love Mike McDaniel and he may not be the right
CEO and cultural fit, but you know, Mike McDaniel knows offense.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
So the Raiders they need a lot of things. And
that Ashton gent Pick. I don't I can't say anything.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I don't want to know what to make of it.
I can't blame him because the old line's a tragedy.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I mean, yeah, they're missing Miller, but you know, Jamyr
Kibbs came into this league, the John Robinson came on.
They're getting the ball in space, they're doing things. Jen
Z's like three yards of carry. I don't see anything
out of him.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, yeah, the old lines. Everything on offense, brock Bowers
is open. It wouldn't catch on three targets.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I believe what I know.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
It's a lot of what blazing five fifty eight percent clip?
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Speaker 1 (12:47):
So here we go. Here's this week's Blazing five.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Let's blaze it up, Fire it up. It's Collins Blazing five,
Falcons and Colts.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I like the Colts in Berlin five and a half.
Don't overreact to the Steelers' loss. They lead the NFL
at six point three yards of play. They haven't lost.
If Jonathan Taylor just russes for ninety yards, they have
the number two total offense.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
And Daniel Jones on the.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Road had a stinker five turnovers against Pittsburgh. Even good
quarterbacks have bad weekends. I love the Colts. I love
what Sauce Gardner does to the locker room. The Falcons
are on a three game losing streak. They've been out
gained in all of their games. They're the worst third
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down team over the last two games, so they are regressing.
I think get to bounce back for the Colts. I
like Indy here, Atlanta's struggling to score. Indy to win
and cover thirty three twenty four Ravens and Vikings. I'm
gonna take the Ravens coming off extra rest averaging thirty
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two a game when Lamar plays. I don't know if
you've noticed this. Lamar's having an unbelievable year. He'd be
the MVP if he'd been healthy, and the defense in
three straight games now healthy, holding people under twenty points.
Lamar's averaging seventy three completion percentage this year in a
one to thirty seven passer rating.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
He's on fire.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The Vikings have been out gained in back to back games,
including the win over Detroit, and they're allowing thirty a
game in their last three games. So again, a regressing
Minnesota defense, which is on the field too long. Lamar
owns the NFC Ravens win and the Ravens cover. It's
an urgent week for Baltimore and next week in the
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week after thirty to twenty.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Be more Patriots aid Bucceteers.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I like the Bucks minus two and a half coming
off of buye and their right tackle returns. Their last
two wins have been by double digits. They're a very
good home team, twenty eight a game at home, getting
slightly healthier. My concern, though, is the Patriots, who have
played the easiest schedule in the league, and I think
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we're a little hot on a young New England team.
Drake May is getting sacked at an alarming rate. Watch
out Todd Bowles. Jmack knows this. He dials up the
Blitzes he and Brian Flores as well as anybody. So
since week seven, Drake May is under duress. I like
the Bucks at home to win and cover twenty seven
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to twenty three, Lions at Commanders. I don't think I've
ever taken four straight favorites. I'm gonna take the Lions.
Do not panic over the Minnesota loss. They had more yards,
they were better on third and fourth, better time of possession.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
They've won two of their last three.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Road games, and they were really last week in division
kind of pushed around. When good teams get pushed around,
it's an anger focused week of practice. And they are
getting to the quarterback second in sacks only behind Denver
Commander's four game losing streak. No Jews just lost Jayden
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Daniels and they only pressured Sam Darnold on three of
twenty four dropbacks. That's brutal. So Jared Goff is going
to have time to throw. Those interior O line injuries
have mostly been cleaned up. I like the Lions to win.
I like another favorite here, thirty three to twenty one.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Comfortably, Steelers at Chargers.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I'm gonna take the underdog Steelers plus three. They're four
and oher this year when they hold their opponents under thirty. Well,
the Chargers don't have either Tackle Becton's hurt as well.
They have four key O line injuries. Aaron Rodgers one
hundred plus passer rating in four or five games, he's
found his rhythm. They really held Jonathan Taylor in check.
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So the Chargers are gonna need to throw the ball
to win here. I don't think they'll run and be
overly dynamic running.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
And I don't trust this old line.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Justin Herbert's got one plus picks in three straight games
because he's rushed. So I think the Steelers defense against
the Colts last week they pushed around that old line
and nobody had all year. I'm gonna take the underdog
Steelers so far is going to be sixty forty Steeler fans,
not a home field advantage. Maybe seventy thirty Steeler fans.
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I got an upset twenty four twenty three Aaron Rodgers
and the Steelers walk out with a narrow win.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I don't like a lot of favorites I do.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
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Speaker 3 (17:58):
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Speaker 1 (18:01):
Eastern in Iowa City for the Oregon Iowa game, and
he is joining us live. We appreciate that on a Friday.
By the way, I want to cut to the chase here.
There's a big story out there. It was all over
the newspaper industry, the interweb that you're you met with
Penn State. Can you offer some clarity on that. Did
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you meet with Penn State? I certainly did not meet
with Penn State about the job. And yeah, my phone
started blowing up last week and I got a lot
of respect for Penn State.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
But I have no interest in coaching again. And so no,
of course not.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I know your agent, guy, Larry, my friend Larry Jones.
Does he get what if somebody called him and said, here,
I'm fifteen million a year for Urban Meyer, what would
you say?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Big noon baby?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
All Right, I got a throat out there. I like
your loyalty. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Okay. So here's the other thing. I saw a story
this morning.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Now US seas at home tonight and they're gonna have
their favorite and they're a very good home team under
Lincoln Riley. But there's a story about, you know, keep
your eye Josh Pate, who a guy I know and respect.
He's got great sourcing, says keep your eye on Penn
State and Lincoln Riley. I don't know who floated it.
I know that's what. But here's my thing, and I
said this about I like Lincoln. I think he's smart.
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I think he's a really bright offensive guy. I think
he's done an unbelievable job with Jayden Mayava. But I
can also say four years in that record's pretty close
to Clay Hilton, and I know he's better than Clay.
But my question is what is USC four years in?
When I ask you, what are they urban?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
You tell me, yeah, I think I think it's still
And that's one of the places I don't understand Colin.
That's got everything. There's some places that are hard. I
don't think USC is hard. I've you know, my entire
career are recruited out in California. You have with all
comes down to recruiting based tradition, and you have everything.
And I understand you have plenty of rec horses in
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the NIO and they got an excellent coach in Lincoln Riley.
I expect Lincoln Riley when you see the recruiting rankings,
what they've done recently, I see him not going anywhere,
and they're gonna have a nice run here coming up, Okay,
in the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Okay, So Oregon is the team you're going to really
have your eye on tomorrow, right, And because you were
so good with quarterbacks, I believe Mendoza won, Dante More too.
They have positioned themselves for the draft. I've watched all
of them. I watched Ty Simpson, I've watched everybody from
Trinidad Chamberli, it's an old miss. I've watched all of them.
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What do you see with Dante Moore? What makes him special?
Speaker 8 (20:40):
He was on our big news set. He's a wonderful guy.
He's kind of a humble guy too, and he would
visited our set. We talked with him, I stood next
to him. He still got some growth to do physically.
Here's I'm going to say something that I truly believe in.
Todd mcshage's one of my dear friends, and we spent
a lot of time talking about this.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I think they all come back.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
I think they all should come back and get one
more year of that the one position in all of
sport that you cannot replace experience with this quarterback.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You have nil money. They're going to make more money.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
In college than will the first couple of years until
the second contract. All come back, including Mendoza more. Everybody
come back, get another year and then see their drugs.
Draft stalking proof because I don't think right now any
one of them are the top starter in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Well, okay, let's so Dante more to me moves. He's
six two and by the way, you're you're six twoish?
Is he when you sized him up? Is he legit?
Six TWOI ish?
Speaker 8 (21:37):
Guy's around there. I think I'm a six to one
plus and he's he's my size. Okay, he still can't
get stronger. He's still you know, sometimes you look at
these mature bodies on a guy.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
He's still got in the room to grow.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Okay, what about Fernando Mendoza, because a lot of the
success is Kurt Signetti, a lot of it's Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
What do you make of him? I love him. I
think he's and I said this on Big Noon.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
People say quarterbacks or system quarterbacks, and I was like,
you're damn right they are. They're great quarterbacks that play
in a great system. That's what I see with Mendoza.
He's an athletic enough to get him out of trouble extent,
plays with his legs and also run. He's very accurate,
he takes care of the ball, he plays within the system.
I love him as a player. Here's the only thing
he's only throwing for about two thirty five two forty
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passing nards per game. I think that could hurt him
at the Heisman rates because I think he's a Heisman
candidate for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
He is.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
And then is he set ready for the NFL again?
Come back, go one more year, get another year experience,
and get ready for the NFL.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
So Lane Kiffin, I suggested this is that the world's
changing in college football, the portal, the nil needy boosters.
You know, he's raising money constantly. If you could, if
Lane Kiffin, if Miami said we're going to roll the
dice on Lane Kiffin, if you could give him one
piece of advice college dupro in that in the world
of the NFL, where it's billionaire owners, what do you
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make of Lane kiffen to the NFL?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Does it make ends to you? It does?
Speaker 8 (23:02):
I think he's you know, Elaine and I have had
a history together. We've become pretty good friends. And he's
I've seen him mature. I'm proud of him. I told
him that one time. I said, you're a maturity level.
What you've done as a you know, as a coach
instead of just the quarterback coach, offense corder. He's become
a head coach really proud of what he's done. So
I could absolutely see you that. And the biggest issue
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I had is you lose in the NFL, and you
lose a lot sometimes and obviously that's that's a hard
thing to handle. So I don't know if I was laying,
you got it pretty good right where you're at. They
love you. They could maybe build a statue of you
someday if they keep going there. So my advice to
Lane is you got something good man, stick with it.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Hey, Ohio State's defense is good in getting better. I mean,
it's just unbelievable. It's it's there's the windows are tiny.
If you're gonna throw in Ohio, Ohio State, those windows
are NFL windows, Like there's just no openings. And Julian's
saying even though he's a kid, boy, what does Ryan
Day tell you about Julian saying, because it just he
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makes it a lot easy.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
I think Ryan Day and Brian hartline offensive coordney have
done a masterclass on how to develop the young quarterback.
They did not put too much on his plate. You
remember against Texas, they did not ask him go to
win the game because they didn't have to, especially the
way the game started, what the defense is playing. Now,
he's completed eighty percent of his passes, legitimate Heisman Trophy candidate,
and he's thrown the I think the two best receivers
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in the sport. Yeah, I mean, you've seen him throw.
He has so much confidence in those guys. He's thrown
fifty to fifty balls with the belief they're going to
come down with it, and they are.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Oh no, Ohio State's receiving I mean, heartlines changed the
whole program. I mean it's like, I think the receivers
are better than their linebackers. And for years it was
a you know linebacker. You when you look at everything
sized up. I thought one of the things about college
football last year, it's more of an NFL feel. It's longer,
you can lose, you can lose late. It's really about
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going into the tournament healthy, with a little try momentium.
Though Ohio State didn't have it. Do you worry that
last year Ohio State came into the playoff angry. They
lost as a favorite to Michigan. They had a lot
to prove. There was absolute urgency. This year they're rolling people.
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How do you change that? Psychology from the hunter because people,
I mean Ryan Day and that before that Tennessee game,
people were writing him out. And now you look like
the dominant team. How do you change that? Do you
worry about that? As a coach? It's like we're a
number one and everybody forget the Natty we won last year.
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We look clearly like the best team. Does that worry you?
How do you optimize that as a coach? And does
it concern you?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
It does? But everything worries me.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Every title we won three titles, and every time we
had that reset loss, you know, it was either Auburn,
it was Ole Miss in eight, it was who we
lose to when I was at Ohio State, remember now,
But we always had that recent I'm going to actually
ask that question that Dan Lanning tomorrow is going to
join us on Big Noon. Has Oregon has had a
reset ever since that lost to Indiana?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Ohio State is rolling.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
You want to coach a pissed off team, I'm sure
there's a way that coach Day's trying to figure out
a way to get that team angry in the stretch
run here certainly coming up in a few weeks in
ann Arbor, they'll be funny angry for that one.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, how anything in the college football rankings? Did you disagree?
Agree with it? You okay with it? I thought they
did a good job. And I think this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Colin.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
We've talked about out with the old Clemson, LSU, Penn State, Florida,
Florida State Wolverines that are kind of out and then
in how about this IU Ole, miss b YU, Texas Tech, Utah, Mandy,
Georgia Tech all of a shot for the college playoff
parody and college football has never been like this.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
It is crazy.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I'm glad you're taking a positive spin on on Lincoln
Riley because when I saw that story, I thought, oh.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Boy, no way here, come on, people are listen.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I know he's a good coach, but there is something
about USC's program there's been stumbled. We know Kiff and
can coach, we know Lincoln can coach, we know Sark
can coach, right, and there's something in I don't know
what it is, the roadblock.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't know. I refuse to believe that call it.
I really do you think you think he's staying. I
think he stays, and I think they go on a
great run all right. I had to talk to him
about it.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Hey, by the way, there's a great pizza place in
Iowa City.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
It's called the Airliner. I had a sausage pizza there.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I crushed it, and it's called the Airliner. And don't
order it next to Liner. He'll eat the whole thing.
But it's it's a great place. Go there tonight. My
name won't help you. But Iowa City is an underrated place.
They don't like you a ton there, but that well,
you know, that's life big ten country.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I'll throw your neighbor else. See what happens.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, I don't. I can tell you what will happened.
I called them that, what did I call them? The
fake idea of college football for ten years? They don't
like me there at all. So okay, okay, save it
for save it for you. It plays better than Arbor,
I'll say that, all right, Urban, All right, Yeah, I
think Lincoln's gonna be fine. It's just, uh, listen, they've
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had good coaches there, sark And and Lane and Lincoln,
these very respected coaches.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It's hard to win.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
It is interesting, though, if you look at the college
football landscape, you got Ole Miss and b Yu and
Texas Tech, and I just talked to somebody yesterday, very
tight endo college football. He said, Alabama's having money problems.
It just it's just hard. It's just there's just who
are your richest for boosters. It's it's changing, it changing
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the dynamic. Uh Jmack with the.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
News turns this is the Herdline news.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
All right, let's get started with an interesting Ryan Dabels
story that popped up. It's courtesy of a WFAM reporter
that's a radio station in New York City, So who
knows how accurate this is, but it's sure as spicy.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
He says.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Brian Dable was nearly fired after the loss to Denver.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Here it is, and I've.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
Now gotten this from multiple people I trust, which is
why I'm going to come here with it. The Giants
were firing Brian Dable off the plane after the collapse
in Denver.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Really he was fired fired.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
Ownership got together, cooler heads prevailed, and they decided not
to fire Brian Dable off the plane in Denver. But
in the immediacy of that collapse, the decision to throw
on third and five like Tiki had crushed you. After
that game, enough apparently was enough from people of importance
with the Giants that he was fired off the plane
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in Denver.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
So you a couple weeks, we're thinking you give Da
bol and Dart another year to bake, right, Yes?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Yes, does this report from whoever this guy is change
your mind?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Well, whoever that guy is has been around for a while,
so I think the report's ballid.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
They got the Bears this week their dogs. We'll talk
about it in headlines in a minute. Then it's green
Bay Detroit.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I stayed away with England. This the weather in Chicago.
We'll talk about it next year.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I think that game. Don't get over confident Bears fans.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Well, listen, listen.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
If the Giants lose that and then they have green
Bay Detroit, New England, Colin, they are looking at being
two and ten pretty much.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You're in short order. I mean, Day Bowl could get
fired during the bye week.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I mean, by the way, what's your take on normally
this like mid season firing versus hated don't don't remember
what the.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Jets did with Salah? How bad you do that? First
of all, day Bowl's the best coach on the staff. Okay,
so you let the best.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Why would you ever let the best employee in the
department out if he leaves.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
It's one thing, if you have.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
The fire him because you're rebuilding culture, you don't let
the best coach in the middle of the season go.
The second thing is then you put an interim in.
It's the substitute teacher. Everybody plays hard, and then the
fans and the players are all like, we want the interim,
and that doesn't work either. So my take is, don't
disrupt Jackson Dart's growth. Give him day Ball go from
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Lane Kiffen for three years, Brian dabol an entire year.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Don't it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
It's like bad teams should not make big sweeping deals
at the trade deadline unless they're getting star players for
the future. And the other thing is, don't disrupt Jackson
Dart's growth. This year is all about Jackson dark that
the whole year is about Jackson Dart.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I mean, he's got no neighbors. Tim Scataboo cooked for
the season. I don't understand why you could why you
would want to run him off off a loss to Denver.
By the way, so many things had to happen for
Denver to come back from down.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You know of fifty points or whatever. Remember that Denver
has done that to like six teams in a low.
I don't know, Denverg's got much better players than the Giants.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
So again, like, if you're going for the New York
Giants job, if Lane.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Kiffen hears this that the Giants were like, we gotta
fire this guy after this brutal loss, again, I would
be very careful. Urban Meyer seems to agree. If you're
Lane Kiffen, you're in a great spot. They're building a
statue of you in Oxford, New York Giants. You're not
gonna be an all time great coach. They've got an
amazing history. You're swimming upstream. I don't He's a bad
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news if you're Jackson Dark too, right, And like you said,
him and day Balls seem to have a great camaraderie.
All right, Let's move on to the Patriots Bucks game
this weekend battle.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Of division leaders.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Drake may is he's playing tremendous football this season. He
has taking a lot of sacks though, Colin, Yeah, where
are you on this?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Drake may absorbing sax versus turning.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I don't like it, and it's gotten worse, so some
of it is again, young quarterbacks struggling to quickly read
coverages tend to hold it a beat longer.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
We see this with Caleb Yep, we see it with
bo Nicks.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Young quarterbacks tend to hold it just a beat longer
because they're adapting to coverages and it's much more sophisticated
than college. And then the other part is there's a
lot of great pass rushers in the AFC and football.
So I think it's part of being a young quarterback
is when Brady was at his best his last ten years,
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you couldn't get to Brady. Yeah, he got the ball
out a media Aaron Rodgers gets it out fast. Mahomes
gets rid of it. Those guys have seen every coverage.
Drake May is still a developing young quarterback. And again
in the NFL, Caleb holds it the longest to three
point one. Mahomes gets rid of it quickly. At two
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point six, it's like one thousand. It's a beat. Here's
the best part.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
May is aware of all this, and he talked to
the media about taking sacks.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Take a listening.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
A lot of the sacks I have taking been my fault,
and you have been me holding the football and you know,
I want to credit those guys for what they've done
in blitz pick up games and how are they work
on you know, watching film and watching you know, on Thursdays,
the third down cutups and what they do kind of
blitz wise. So that just my mindset, get it out
and know that there's less people you know, covering the
they're blitzing and just trying to be you know better.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
So I'm looking at the New England Patriots. I'm sorry,
the Buccaneers pass rush. We know what Bulls likes to do,
dial up the blitz. Rookie young quarterbacks. He's really dominated.
Do you have any read on this game? Colin will
be doing it in the headlines here shortly.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I think New England's had a nice run of very
beatable teams. The Buffalo win was impressive, but Tampa Todd
Bowles dials up some of the smartest, most aggressive deef
blitz is in the league. You go on the road,
Tampa's off a buy that gives Todd Bowles an extra
three or four days a film building a game plan
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against the Drake may a young quarterback. Drake is really talented.
But this is a tough one because Tampa is in
a fight, right, I like Tampa here.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Okay, I don't want to give away my pick, but
we'll do it shortly. Final story, Colin to your hometown
Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
They had an amazing.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Offensive performance against the Bengals last week, but one guy in.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Particular didn't do much. Rome a Dunza, the young.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Receiver Colin no catches three targets, and then his father
went on social media and liked to post saying the
Bears should trade a Dunza to a team that will
actually throw to him. Boy, and now Rome has to
answer for his dad. Take a listen.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I don't make a big deal out of it. You know,
obviously he has his opinions.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I have mine, and he feels like he needs to
voice those things on social media, but you know that's
that's his prerogative.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
But he speaks for himself. I speak for myself.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
Man.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I'm just trying to do my job within this you
know organization that's you know, as a leader, as a
as a person.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
As an individual, and then as a football player.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So trying to excel at you know, Hall of Fame
level in both those aspects.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
So that's all unputed on.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
What do you make of it? He's too good.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
I mean earlier this season, I was like, hey, Dunday's good,
you could trade DJ Moore and get picks. But now
the Bears are in the wildcard mix. They're not moving
off anybody, obviously. I I like to say this as
much ado about nothing. I know you were a stage
dad once with your kids playing sports.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Right, Yeah, I think I think some of this she
got to bake in.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I'd be more concerned if Roma Dunzee had a brother
or a sister generationally talking, Oh, dads are going to
be protective of their sons.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Moms.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I've said quarterback dad has become pageant mom.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You're just getting people that.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Are trying to do the best for their kids, but
they're kind of delusional. I would worry if it was
like Rama Dunzee's you know what, Michael Vick's brother would
talk did that because brothers tell each other stuff they
don't tell dad or mom. Right, Dad's are always going
to be protected, Like it's just the reality of it.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Yeah, I do wonder if the weather isn't awful. It
looks like it's gonna be windy. Giants are down two
quarterbacks again, and there's giants seems beat up.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I I like the Bears a lot this weekend. I
watch the weather is slacked, but he just looked up
the weather report. I like the Bears here. I'll just
leave it that, Okay. Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
He's been hot, he's got his picks tomorrow's headlines.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
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