November 7, 2025 • 32 mins
Colin talks to 3-time National Champion Urban Meyer joins the show for an unfiltered conversation on:
- Rumors he’s taking the Penn State head coaching job
- Why Lincoln Riley & USC are set up for success
- Why he believes Ohio State is still the best team in college football\
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Urban Meyer Big noon kickoff tomorrow ten am Eastern in
Iowa City for the Oregon Iowa game, and he is
joining us live. We appreciate that. On a Friday. By
the way, I want to cut to the chase here.
There's a big story out there. It was all over
the newspaper industry, the interweb that you're you met with
(00:48):
Penn State. Can you offer some clarity on that? Did
you meet with Penn State? I certainly did not meet
with Penn State about the job.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And yeah, my shone started blowing up last week and
I got a lot of respect for penns. But I
have no interest in coaching again, and so no, of
course not.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I know your agent guy, Larry, my friend Larry Jones.
Does he get what if somebody called him and said, here,
I'm fifteen million a year for Urban Meyer, what would
you say, A big noon baby? All Right, I got
a throat out there. I like your loyalty. I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Okay. So here's the other thing. I saw a story
this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Now us s's at home tonight and they're gonna have
their favorite and they should. They're a very good home
team under Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
But there's a.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Story about, you know, keep your eye Josh paid to
a guy I know and respect. He's got great sourcing,
says keep your eye on Penn State and Lincoln Riley.
I don't know who floated it. I know that's what.
But here's my thing, and I said this about I
like Lincoln. I think he's smart. I think he's a
really bright, offensive guy. I think he's done an unbelievable
job with Jayden my ava. But I can also say
(01:55):
four years in that record's pretty close to Clay Hilton,
and I always better than Clay. But my question is
what is USC four years in? When I ask you
what are they urban?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You tell me, yeah, I think I think it's still
and I that's one of the places I don't understand
Colin that's got everything. There's some places that are hard.
I don't think USC is hard. I you know, my
entire career, I recruited out in California. You have a
all comes down to recruiting based tradition, and you have everything.
And I understand you have plenty of resources in the
(02:29):
NIL and they got an excellent coach in Lincoln Riley.
I expect Lincoln Riley when you see the recruiting rankings,
what they've done recently, I see him not going anywhere.
And they're going to have a nice run here coming up. Okay,
in the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Okay, So Oregon is the team you're going to really
have your eye on tomorrow. And because you were so
good with quarterbacks, I believe Mendoza won Dante More too.
They have positioned themselves for the draft. I've watched all
of them. I watched Ty Simpson, I've watched everybody from Trinidad.
Chamberlin's an old miss. I've watched all of them. What
(03:05):
do you see with Dante More? What makes him special?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
He was on our big news set. He's a wonderful guy.
He's kind of a humble guy too. When he would
visited our set, we talked with him. I stood next
to him, he still got some growth to do physically.
Here's I'm going to say something that I truly believe in.
Tom mcshaye's one of my dear friends, and we spent
a lot of time talking about this.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I think they all come back.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I think they all should come back and get one
more year of that the one position in all of
sport that you cannot replace experience with this quarterback.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You have nil money.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
They're going to make more money in college as Thanny
will the first couple of years until the second contract.
All come back, including Mendoza More, everybody come back, get
another year and then see their drug drafts. Talking proof,
because I don't think right now any one of them
are the top starter in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, okay, so Dante More to me moves. He's six'
two and by the, way you're you're six? Twoish is
he when you sized him? Up is he legit six?
Twoish guys around? THERE i Think i'm a six to
one plus and he's my he's my. Size, okay he
still can't get.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Stronger he's still you, know sometimes you look at these
mature bodies on a, Guy he's.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Still got the room to Girl, okay what About Fernando
mendoza because a lot of his success Is Kurt, SIGNETTI
a lot of It's.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Mendoza what do you make of? HIM i love.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
HIM i think he's AND i said this some big
noon people who say are quarterbacks are system, quarterbacks AND
i was, like you're damn, right they. Are they're great
quarterbacks that play in a great. System that's WHAT i
see With. Mendoza he's an athletic enough to get him
out of trouble, extent plays with his legs and also.
Run he's very, accurate he takes care of the, ball
he plays within the.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
SYSTEM i love him as a. Player here's the only.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Thing he's only throwing for about two thirty five two
forty passing nards forer. GAME i think that could hurt
him At heisman rates BECAUSE i think he's A heisman
candidate for.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Sure he.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Is and then is he set ready for THE nfl?
Again come, back go one more, year get another year,
experience and get ready for THE.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Nfl So Lane, KIFFIN i, suggested this is that the
world's changing in college. Football the, portal the nil needy.
Boosters you know you're raising money constantly if you could
If Lane, kiffin If miami said we're going to roll
the dice On Lane, kiffin if you could give him
one piece of advice college to pro and that in
the world of THE nfl where it's billionaire, owners what
(05:26):
do you make Of lane kiffen to THE?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Nfl does it make sense to? You it?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
DOES i think he's you, Know lane AND i have
had a history. Together we've become pretty good, friends and
He's i've seen him.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Mature i'm proud of. HIM i told him that one.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
TIME i, said you're a maturity level what you've done
as a you, know as a coach instead of just
the quarterback, coach offense, courterer he's become a head. Coach
i'm really proud of what he's. Done SO i could
absolutely see. That the biggest ISSUE i had is you
lose in THE, nfl and you lose a lot, sometimes
and obviously that's that's a hard thing to. Handle SO
i don't know IF i Was, lane you got a
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pretty good right where you're. At they love. You they
could maybe build a statue of you someday if they
keep going. There so my advice To lane is you
got something good, man stick with.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It, Yeah, Hey Ohio state's defense is good in getting.
BETTER i, mean it's just. Unbelievable it's there's the windows are.
Tiny if you're gonna throw In, Ohio Ohio, state those
windows ARE nfl, windows like there's just no. Openings And
julian saying even though he's a, kid, boy what Is
(06:29):
Ryan day tell you About julian?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Saying because it just he makes it a little. Easy.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
YEAH i Think Ryan day And brian hartline offense coordina
have done a masterclass on how to develop a young.
Quarterback they did not put too much on his. Plate
you remember Against, texas they did not ask him go
to win the game because they didn't have, to especially
the way the game. Started what the defense is playing,
Now he's completed eighty percent of his, passes Legitimate Heisman trophy,
candidate and he's throwing THE i think the two best
(06:56):
receivers in the.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Sport, YEAH i, mean you've seen him throw so much
confidence to those.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Guys he's thrown fifty to fifty balls with the belief
they're going to come down with it and they.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Are oh, No Ohio state's RECEIVING i, mean heartlines changed
the whole. PROGRAM i, mean it's, LIKE i think the
receivers are better than their. Linebackers and for years it
was a you know, linebacker you when.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
You look at everything sized.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
UP i thought one of the things about college football last,
year it's more of AN nfl. Feel it's, longer you can,
lose you can lose. Late it's really about going into
the tournament, healthy with a little try. Momentum Although Ohio
state didn't have. It do you worry?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That last?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Year Ohio state came into the playoff, angry they lost
as a favorite To. Michigan they had a lot to.
Prove there was absolute. Urgency this year they're rolling. People
how do you change that psychology from the? Hunter because,
PEOPLE i Mean Ryan day and that before That tennessee,
game people were writing him. Out and now you look
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like the dominant. Team how do you do it changed?
That do you worry about?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That as a?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Coach it's like we're a number one and everybody forget
The natty we won last. Year we look clearly like
the best. Team does that worry? You how do you
optimize that as a? Coach and does it concern?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
You it? Does but everything worries.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Me every title we won three, titles and every time
we had that reset, loss you, know it was Either,
auburn it Was Ole miss in, eight it was who
we lose to WHEN i was At Ohio. STATE i
can't remember, now but we always had that Recent i'm
going to actually ask you that question To Dan lanning.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
TOMORROW i was going to join us On Big.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Noon Has oregon has had a reset ever since that
loss To Indiana Ohio state is? Rolling you want to
coach a pissed off, Team i'm sure there's a way
that Coach day's trying to figure out a way to
get that team angry in the stretch run Here certainly
coming up in a few weeks in Ann, arbor they'll
be plenty angry for that.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
One. Yeah how anything in the college football? Rankings did you?
Disagree agree with?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
It? You okay with? IT i thought they did a good.
Job AND i think this is Interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Colin we've talked about out with the Old, CLEMSON, Lsu Penn, State,
Florida Florida State wolverines that are kind of out and
then in how about THIS Iu ole MISS Byu Texas, Tech, Utah,
Mandy Georgia tech all of a shot for the college
playoff parody and college football has never been.
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Speaker 4 (09:59):
Crazy you.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Know i'm glad you're taking a positive spin ON u
On Lincoln, riley because WHEN i saw that, STORY i,
thought oh, boy.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
No way, here come, on people are.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
LISTEN i know he's a good, coach but there is
something about USC's program there's been. Stumbled we Know kiff
and can, coach we Know lincoln can, coach we Know
sark can, coach, right and there's something IN i don't
know what it, is the.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
ROADBLOCK i don't KNOW i refuse to believe. That call.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
IT i really do you think you think he's. STAYING
i think he, stays AND i think they go on
a great. Run but all, RIGHT i have to talk
to him about.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Hey by the, way there's a great pizza place In Iowa.
City it's called The. AIRLINER i had a sausage pizza.
THERE i crushed, it and it's called The. Airliner and
don't order it next to. Liner he'll eat the whole.
Thing but it's it's a great. Place go there. Tonight
my name won't help, you But Iowa city is an underrated.
Place they don't like.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
You it's on.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
There but that, well you, know that's, life big ten.
Country i'll throw your neighbor. Else see what. Happens, YEAH i.
DON'T i can tell you what will. HAPPENED i called them,
That what DID i call? Them the fake idea of
college football for ten? Years they don't like me there at. All,
okay save it, for save it for you know it
plays better Than. Arbor i'll say, that all, Right, Urban all, Right,
(11:22):
YEAH i Think lincoln's going to be. Fine it's just, uh,
listen they've had good coaches, There sark And lane And,
lincoln these very respected.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Coaches it's hard to.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Win it is, interesting, though if you look at the
college football, landscape you Got Ole miss and b Y
u And Texas. Tech AND i just talked to somebody,
yesterday very tight endo college. Football he, Said alabama's having money.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Problems it just it's just.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Hard it's just there's just who were your richest four.
Boosters it's it's, changing it changing the. DYNAMIC H, james the.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
News turn on the. News this is The Herdline.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
News all, right let's get started with an Interesting Brian
dabels story that popped. Up it's courtesy of A wfan
reporter that's a radio station In New York, City so
who knows how accurate this, is but it's sure as.
Spicy he, Says Brian dable was nearly fired after the
loss To.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Denver here it, is And i've.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
Now gotten this from multiple PEOPLE i, trust which is
Why i'm going to come here with. It The giants
were Firing Brian dable off the plane after the collapse In.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Denver really he was fired.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
Fired ownership got, together cooler heads, prevailed and they decided
not to Fire Brian dable off the plane In. Denver
but in the immediacy of that, collapse the decision to
throw on third and five With teegee had crushed. You
after that, game enough apparently was enough from people of
it importance with The giants that he was fired off
(13:02):
the plane In.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Denver so you.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
A couple of weeks, ago were thinking you give Day
bole And dart another year to bake, Right, yes, yes
does this report from whoever this guy is change your?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Mind, well whoever that guy is has been around for a,
while SO i think the report's.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
Ballad so they got The bears this, week their. Dogs
we'll talk about it in headlines in a. Minute then
it's Green Bay. DETROIT i stayed away To. England this
the weather In. Chicago we'll talk about it next.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
GAME i think that. Game don't get over Confident bears. Fans, well, listen.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Listen if The giants lose that and then they Have
Green Bay, Detroit New, England, colin they are looking at
being two and ten pretty.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Much you're in short. ORDER i, mean Day boll could
get fired during the bye.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
WEEK i, mean by the, way what's your take on
normally this like mid season firing Versus.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Hada don't don't remember what The jets did with how
bad you do. That first of, All dable's the best
coach on the. Staff, okay so you let the Best
why would you ever let the best employee in the
department out if he.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Leaves it's one thing if you have.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
The fire him because you're rebuilding, culture you don't let
the best coach in the middle of the season. Go
the second thing is then you put an interim. In
it's the substitute. Teacher everybody plays, hard and then the
fans and the players are all, like we want the interim.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
And that doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Either so my take, is don't Disrupt Jackson dart's. Growth
give Him daball go From Lane kiffin for three, Years
Brian dabole an entire.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Year don't it's not worth.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
It it's like bad teams should not make big sweeping
deals at the trade deadline unless they're getting star players
for the.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Future and the.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Other thing, is don't Disrupt Jackson dart's. Growth this year
is all About Jackson. Dart that the whole year is
About Jackson. DART i, mean he's got no.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Neighbors Kim scataboo cook the, SEASON i don't understand why
you could why you would want to run him off
off a loss To, denver by the, way so many
things had to happen For denver to come back from
down you, know fifty points or.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Whatever remember That denver has done that to like six
teams in a. LOW i don't. Know denver's got much
better players from The.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Giants so, again, like if you're going for The New
York giants, job If Lane kiffin hears this that The
giants were, like we gotta fire this guy after this
brutal loss, AGAIN i would be very. Careful Urban meyer
seems to. Agree if You're Lane, kiffen you're in a great.
Spot they're building a statue of you In, Oxford New York.
Giants you're not going to be an all time great.
(15:36):
Coach they've got an amazing. History you're swimming. UPSTREAM i
don't he's a bad news if You're Jackson dart too,
Right and like you, said him and Day bolls seem
to have a great. Camaraderie all, Right let's move on
to The Patriots bucks game this weekend battle of division.
Leaders drake May is he's playing tremendous football this. Season
he has taking a lot of sacks, Though, Colin, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Where are you on?
Speaker 7 (15:59):
This Drake may absorbing sax versus. TURNING i don't like,
it and it's gotten.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Worse so some of it is, again young quarterbacks struggling
to quickly read coverages tend to hold it a beat.
Longer we see this With Caleb, yep we see it
with Bo. Nicks young quarterbacks tend to hold it just
to beat longer because they're adapting to coverages and it's
much more sophisticated than. College and then the other part
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is there's a lot of great pass rushers in THE
afc and, Football SO i think it's part of being
a young quarterback is When brady was at his best
his last ten, years you couldn't get To Brady. Man
he got the ball out. Immediate Aaron rodgers gets it out,
Fast mahomes gets rid of. It those guys have seen every.
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Coverage Drake may is still a developing young. Quarterback and
again in THE, Nfl caleb holds it the longest to
three point. One mahomes gets rid of it. Quickly at
two point, six it's like one. Thousand it's a. Beat
here's the best.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Part may is aware of all, this and he talked
to the media about taking.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Sacks take a. LISTENER a lot of.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
The SACKS i have taken it been my. Fault you
have been me holding the, football and you, KNOW i
want to credit those guys for what they've done in
blitz pickup games and how are they work, on you,
know watching film and watching you, know On, thursdays the
third down cutups and what they do kind of blitz.
Wise so that just my, mindset get it out and
know that there's less, people you, know covered with their
blitzing and just trying to be you know.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Better So i'm looking at The New England. Patriots i'm,
sorry The buccaneers pass. Rush we know What bulls likes to,
do dial up the. Blitz rookie young, quarterbacks he's really.
Dominated do you have any read on this, Game, Colin
we'll be doing it in the headlines here. Shortly.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
WELL i Think New england's had a nice run of
very beatable. Teams The buffalo win was, impressive But, Tampa
Todd bowles dials up some of the, smartest most aggressive
defen blitz is in the. League you go on the,
Road tampa's off a bye that Gives Todd bowles an
extra three or four days a film building a game
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plan against The drake may a young. Quarterback drake is really.
Talented but this is a tough one Because tampa is
in a, fight. RIGHT i Like tampa.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Here, OKAY i don't want to give away my, pick
but we'll do it.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Shortly final, Story colin to your Hometown Chicago.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Bears they had an amazing.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Offensive performance against The bengals last, week but one guy
in particular didn't do. Much rome A, dunza the young
Receiver colin no catches three, targets and then his father
went on social media and liked to post saying The
bears should trade A dunza to a team that will
actually throw to.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Him, boy and Now rome has to answer for his.
Dad take a.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
LISTEN i don't make a big deal out of. It you,
know obviously he has his. OPINIONS i have, mine and
he feels like he needs to voice of things on social.
Media but you know that that's that's his. Prerogative but you,
know he speaks for. HIMSELF i speak for.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Myself.
Speaker 9 (19:06):
Man i'm.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Happy i'm just trying to do my job.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Within this you, know, organization that's you, know.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
As a, leader as a as a, person as an,
individual and then as a football. Player so trying to
excel at you, Know hall Of fame level in both those.
Aspects so that's All i'm focused.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
On what do you make of? It he's too?
Speaker 7 (19:24):
GOOD i mean earlier this, SEASON i was, like, Hey dunzay's.
Good you could TRADE Dj moore and get. Picks but
now The bears are in the wild card. Mix they're
not moving off, anybody. OBVIOUSLY I i like to say
this is much ado about. NOTHING i know you were
a stage dad once with your kids playing, sports.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Right, YEAH i THINK i think some of this she
got to bake. In i'd be more concerned If romadunza
had a brother or a sister generationally, Talking, oh dads
are going to be protective of their sons. Moms i've
said quarterback dad has become pageant. Mom you're just getting
people that are trying to do the best for their,
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kids but they're kind of. DELUSIONAL i would worry if
it was Like Roma donze's you know, What Michael vick's
brother would talk or did, that because brothers tell each
other stuff they don't tell dad or.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Mom, right dads are always going to be. Protected like
it's just the reality of.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
It, YEAH i do wonder if the weather isn't. Awful
it looks like it's going to be. Windy giants are
down two quarterbacks again and it's just giants seems beat.
UP i like The bears a lot this. Weekend how
would job the weather is, slacked.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
But he just looked up the weather. REPORT i like
The bears. Here i'll just leave it, that. OKAY J
mack Within, Vidus.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by The
Herd line.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
News he's been, hot he's got his. Picks tomorrow's headlines.
Today next.
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former the former Fish rap editor newspaper Guy, jmack it's.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Called tomorrow's headlines.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Today what's your headline going to be On monday for
The patriots at the.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Box at least you didn't call me an ink stained.
WRETCH i like this game a. Lot this is really fascinating.
Too powers from each, conference the headline For Patriots bucks
will be yo ho ho oh no, no, no pirate
ship plundered By. Mayflower i'm going with your Guy Drake
(21:56):
may And nuckland tell some interesting. Stuff first of, all
you just Said Todd off a bye And i'm, like oh,
yeah let me look that. Up so he is not
a scheme. Guy he's a walk around. Guy defensive, coach
one in five off the by in his career with
The jets And. Tampa, interestingly he does love to. Blitz
tampa seventh in. Blitzrait but how Is Drake may done
against the?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Blitz this is.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
Staggering number one IN qbr in the league against the.
Blitz he is second in big. Plays he's a reading
to react. Quarterback Drake may's really, good. MAN i don't
want to be, like, hey top ten quarterback in the.
League he's, Good but it's not like his receivers are, amazing,
RIGHT i, Mean Stefon diggs is showing well.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
LATELY i just like What i've seen from May.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Vrabel very good, coach final fun Stat Christian gonzalez is
a GO i would assume they're going to have him
locked Into. Abuka SO i know people are, saying, Oh
gonzales got. Cooked he got roasted By Drake. London not.
Really they did a good job Moving london. Around Christian
gonzales Against Drake london only allowed three catches on seven
targets for sixty seven, Yards so he was really pretty
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good Against. London the other guys got. ROASTED i Like
Drake mayn and The patriots to go in and pull
a bit of an upset as two and a half point.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Dogs wow tomorrow's headlines. TODAY i stayed away from this
game because of the. WEATHER i Think chicago's Better giants
at The.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
BEAR i thought, you as a New chicago, resident would
love this wind and. Rain the headline For Bears giants
will be Strip Mall rebuild A bear revives This chicago.
FRANCHISE i gotta go with The bears, Here. Colin everything
lines up to me As chicago in this. Spot SO
i did just look up the, weather.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Rain and win all.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Morning it's going to be ugly thirties during the game
and a lot of, wind but no. Precipitation it doesn't
appear as of now for. ME i just wonder if
The giants have maybe thrown in the towel on the.
Season you look at the injury report and more guys
are getting added every. Week their Kicker, gano he may not.
Go they may have to sign Former falcons. Kicker their
center not at practice. Today looks like he's going to
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be ruled. Out they're down their top two. Cornerbacks this
is a mass. Unit and again It's Jackson dart against the.
WORLD i like to Think Dennis, allen who's been up
and down as a defensive coordinator this. YEAR i think
he can scheme stuff. Up AND i really like This
chicago run Game colin worst run defense in the league
by a.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Lot The New York.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Giants this is a Swift Kyle, manungai however you say his.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
NAME i like them going over two hundred yards.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Combined Caleb safe throws no, Turnovers bears twenty seven to.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Thirteen tomorrow's headlines Today cardinals at The. Seahawks now it's
a division. Game it's a, big big. Number arizona may
be feeling. Themselves but it Is Jacoby brossett.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
STARTING i got burned by a division game last. Night
REMEMBER i was on The, broncos but not the.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Case.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Here the headline For Arizona seattle will Be tacoma Tos y.
Snooze you Lose week ten In. SEATTLE i am on The.
Seahawks here fun. Stat arizona has not Beaten seattle since
twenty twenty. One now a lot of That's Kyler murray
who has been dreadful Against. Seattle he's not, starting which
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was your good, point by the, way this earlier, meeting
it was twenty to Six seattle with like six minutes
left before some luckbox stuff at the. End So jacoby
presets In. Collin we like presset as a.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Backup.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Yeah how many weeks of tape we got on? Him
now it's not just one or. Two this is what
he's been playing for a. While he looks. Good kyler's on.
Ir jacoby can breathe. Easy he's the guy. NOW i
just wonder This seattle. Defense did you see what they
were doing To Jayden.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Daniels oh it was.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Brutal he couldn't do. ANYTHING i, mean they are swarming
they're fully. HEALTHY i think all eleven starters are. Back
these are one of the nastier defensive units in the.
League they've been spotty at, home which has to be
a little. CONCERNED i don't know why they're so good
on the, road any, theories because historically this.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Team's been really Well.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Geographically it's a long road trip almost everywhere except Like San.
Francisco SO i think defense and run games travel. Well
AND i think under McDonald they're a run team first
and they play. Defense and, oh by the, way just,
Now Will, johnson eight quarterback out Of, michigan ruled out For.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Arizona that's not good For.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Arizona wasn't the knock on him that he was kind
of injury prone At.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Michigan he.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wasn't he wasn't a burner, like he wasn't a lockdown.
Corner he's been.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Good they're gonna miss him because this GUY jsn might
be the best receiving in the.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
League tomorrow's headlines, Today Rams. NINERS i think it's low
scoring in Close, jmack what say?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
You? Oh scoring The niners get hemorrhaging points of The.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Giants the headline For Niners rams will Be puka, Shlocking niners, drubbed, clubbed.
SCRUBBED i don't like the vibes around The niners.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
This week at. All have you NOTICED i think you
picked this.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Up Kyle shanahan's getting a Little he's never smiling during
these press. Conferences colin sixteen guys on the injury report
for The niners. Sixteen they are dead last in pressure
rate in the. League sala cannot generate pressure Without Bosa,
hoff who is, practicing we'll. See and then they lost
the young Guy Mikail. Williams so you're telling Me Matt
stafford's in a clean pocket With pooka who's clear to play,
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healthy no no, Designation Pokah DeVante. ADAMS i, MEAN i
don't want to say The rams could pick their score.
HERE i have a feeling this could get. UGLY i
Know shanahan's been doing a great, job BUT i JUST
i look at this team and they're just not healthy.
Enough colin and The rams. Defense by the, way you
were on this early with Versus.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Collin it's. Fantastic.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
NOW i know it was just The saints and they
face some pretty bad, teams but they're flying around in
the front seven very confident.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
GROUP i like The rams here.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Big, Finally tomorrow's headlines TODAY nfc heavyweight Matchup philly At Green.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Bay, yeah so this is one where WE i think
we disagree on. You you love you Some, eagles AND
i like The eagles a. Lot Jalen hurts out here
giving out fortune cookie advice at the press conference is
a really like likable. Guy but the headline For Packers
eagles will Be poutine on the Rigs philly creamed By Cheeze.
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WHIZZIES i like The packers, Here. Colin this is a
great bounce Back scott spot for Green. Bay they may
have been looking ahead last. WEEK i think they probably.
Were it was a trap game Against. Carolina we talked
about that Last. Friday and, oh by the, way they
didn't punt in that. Game they moved the ball up
and down the. Field just ineptitude kicking turnover on. DOWNS
i think the pressure from Green bay up, front led
(28:16):
By Micah, parsons gets To Jalen.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
HURTS i think the Green Bit packer secondary grades out really.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Good you're taking four out of five favorites, too just
different On.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Thanks for reminding, Me no And Bryce, young by the,
way you had one hundred and two yards passing last.
Week let's not act like The panthers run up and
down the field and killed. Them SO i think there's
a tough spot For. PHILLY i Like micah and company
when they need to show up against the best. Teams
Green bay historically has done that at. Home, yeah SO
i like, them especially.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Under a field.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Goal the other story, today and it's just, Supposition BUT
i talked about this, earlier not trying to holes or
start little. Campfires earlier this, week let me put my
tinfoil hat On lebron's camp saying he would not make
(29:06):
the five game road. Trip Then Luca wednesday night has
one of his games of the. Year they beat red
Hot San, antonio they Stemy, wemby and the next morning
the sciatica nerve is apparently not getting On lebron's nerves
and he is now. Allowed contact is now, Allowed, GUYS
(29:35):
i don't. Know it seems weird that that story went
From i'm not, traveling the nerve is a. Problem luca's,
great they Beat wemby And lebron make sure it gets
out there, that, UH i am ready to.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Roll Austin reeves also did not play Against wemby Basically
luca and a bunch of Dudes by kind of by.
Himself you you, REALLY i think you're just stirring the pot.
Here you need to go hang out With lebron. Again
it's been a couple of, years, right SINCE i Like.
Lebron i'm Pro, lebron, right but it is it felt.
Intentional Sometimes lebron's camp, is you, know a little. Manipulative
(30:11):
they like to get, there they like to get their message.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Out Not lebron's, Camp no, Way, okay, fine.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
It was interesting not going on the, Roadie i'm, Available, yeah, Contact,
like how did just Suddenly.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
I'm seeing people putting nonsense out, there, like, Hey lebron
should come off the bench so he doesn't mess up the.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Vibes he was second Team ALL nba last. Time what are?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Doing i'm interested to Watch, Luca austin And. Lebron there's
one ball and they're all very good with the ball
in their. HANDS i mean When, luke When luke And
lebron didn't, play it was Just. Austin he was dropping. Forties,
YEAH i.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Got the numbers from our. GUY i Asked, zach how
many games have they played? Together Luca lebron And reeves
twenty six games. Together that's.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
It that's what a third of a.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Season it's a better version of The Brooklyn nets WITH
kd And harden And.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Kyrie it's not.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
Terrible luca was last, year, right and then this Year.
Lebron they're gonna be. FINE i TRUST Jj. Reddick he,
was he was podcast partners With. Lebron you didn't eve gonna.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
KNOW i don't.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
WORRY Jj reddick is a very good. COACH i think
he's a growing. COACH i think he's, fine BUT i you,
know it's it's, UH i, Mean. Lebron we have to
be honest about. This i'm Pro. Lebron he makes sure
timing with his social media and his. Messaging he's very
aware of branding and and he's very measured when he
(31:35):
has to, be and very. Calculating it just it was
just funny to. Me can't make the Roadie luca look?
Great knock off The. SPURS i, HELLO i am available.
Soon this is throwing it. Out don't forget about.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Me i'm still. Here keep your eye on The. Dodgers
what's going on the stories out there about The. Dodgers
maybe another big, acquisition it's just a little a little
bite for the. Week, yeah
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Urban Meyer Big noon kickoff tomorrow ten am Eastern in
Iowa City for the Oregon Iowa game, and he is
joining us live. We appreciate that. On a Friday. By
the way, I want to cut to the chase here.
There's a big story out there. It was all over
the newspaper industry, the interweb that you're you met with
(00:48):
Penn State. Can you offer some clarity on that? Did
you meet with Penn State? I certainly did not meet
with Penn State about the job.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And yeah, my shone started blowing up last week and
I got a lot of respect for penns. But I
have no interest in coaching again, and so no, of
course not.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I know your agent guy, Larry, my friend Larry Jones.
Does he get what if somebody called him and said, here,
I'm fifteen million a year for Urban Meyer, what would
you say, A big noon baby? All Right, I got
a throat out there. I like your loyalty. I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Okay. So here's the other thing. I saw a story
this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Now us s's at home tonight and they're gonna have
their favorite and they should. They're a very good home
team under Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
But there's a.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Story about, you know, keep your eye Josh paid to
a guy I know and respect. He's got great sourcing,
says keep your eye on Penn State and Lincoln Riley.
I don't know who floated it. I know that's what.
But here's my thing, and I said this about I
like Lincoln. I think he's smart. I think he's a
really bright, offensive guy. I think he's done an unbelievable
job with Jayden my ava. But I can also say
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four years in that record's pretty close to Clay Hilton,
and I always better than Clay. But my question is
what is USC four years in? When I ask you
what are they urban?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You tell me, yeah, I think I think it's still
and I that's one of the places I don't understand
Colin that's got everything. There's some places that are hard.
I don't think USC is hard. I you know, my
entire career, I recruited out in California. You have a
all comes down to recruiting based tradition, and you have everything.
And I understand you have plenty of resources in the
(02:29):
NIL and they got an excellent coach in Lincoln Riley.
I expect Lincoln Riley when you see the recruiting rankings,
what they've done recently, I see him not going anywhere.
And they're going to have a nice run here coming up. Okay,
in the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Okay, So Oregon is the team you're going to really
have your eye on tomorrow. And because you were so
good with quarterbacks, I believe Mendoza won Dante More too.
They have positioned themselves for the draft. I've watched all
of them. I watched Ty Simpson, I've watched everybody from Trinidad.
Chamberlin's an old miss. I've watched all of them. What
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do you see with Dante More? What makes him special?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
He was on our big news set. He's a wonderful guy.
He's kind of a humble guy too. When he would
visited our set, we talked with him. I stood next
to him, he still got some growth to do physically.
Here's I'm going to say something that I truly believe in.
Tom mcshaye's one of my dear friends, and we spent
a lot of time talking about this.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I think they all come back.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I think they all should come back and get one
more year of that the one position in all of
sport that you cannot replace experience with this quarterback.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You have nil money.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
They're going to make more money in college as Thanny
will the first couple of years until the second contract.
All come back, including Mendoza More, everybody come back, get
another year and then see their drug drafts. Talking proof,
because I don't think right now any one of them
are the top starter in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, okay, so Dante More to me moves. He's six'
two and by the, way you're you're six? Twoish is
he when you sized him? Up is he legit six?
Twoish guys around? THERE i Think i'm a six to
one plus and he's my he's my. Size, okay he
still can't get.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Stronger he's still you, know sometimes you look at these
mature bodies on a, Guy he's.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Still got the room to Girl, okay what About Fernando
mendoza because a lot of his success Is Kurt, SIGNETTI
a lot of It's.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Mendoza what do you make of? HIM i love.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
HIM i think he's AND i said this some big
noon people who say are quarterbacks are system, quarterbacks AND
i was, like you're damn, right they. Are they're great
quarterbacks that play in a great. System that's WHAT i
see With. Mendoza he's an athletic enough to get him
out of trouble, extent plays with his legs and also.
Run he's very, accurate he takes care of the, ball
he plays within the.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
SYSTEM i love him as a. Player here's the only.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Thing he's only throwing for about two thirty five two
forty passing nards forer. GAME i think that could hurt
him At heisman rates BECAUSE i think he's A heisman
candidate for.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Sure he.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Is and then is he set ready for THE nfl?
Again come, back go one more, year get another year,
experience and get ready for THE.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Nfl So Lane, KIFFIN i, suggested this is that the
world's changing in college. Football the, portal the nil needy.
Boosters you know you're raising money constantly if you could
If Lane, kiffin If miami said we're going to roll
the dice On Lane, kiffin if you could give him
one piece of advice college to pro and that in
the world of THE nfl where it's billionaire, owners what
(05:26):
do you make Of lane kiffen to THE?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Nfl does it make sense to? You it?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
DOES i think he's you, Know lane AND i have
had a history. Together we've become pretty good, friends and
He's i've seen him.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Mature i'm proud of. HIM i told him that one.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
TIME i, said you're a maturity level what you've done
as a you, know as a coach instead of just
the quarterback, coach offense, courterer he's become a head. Coach
i'm really proud of what he's. Done SO i could
absolutely see. That the biggest ISSUE i had is you
lose in THE, nfl and you lose a lot, sometimes
and obviously that's that's a hard thing to. Handle SO
i don't know IF i Was, lane you got a
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pretty good right where you're. At they love. You they
could maybe build a statue of you someday if they
keep going. There so my advice To lane is you
got something good, man stick with.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It, Yeah, Hey Ohio state's defense is good in getting.
BETTER i, mean it's just. Unbelievable it's there's the windows are.
Tiny if you're gonna throw In, Ohio Ohio, state those
windows ARE nfl, windows like there's just no. Openings And
julian saying even though he's a, kid, boy what Is
(06:29):
Ryan day tell you About julian?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Saying because it just he makes it a little. Easy.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
YEAH i Think Ryan day And brian hartline offense coordina
have done a masterclass on how to develop a young.
Quarterback they did not put too much on his. Plate
you remember Against, texas they did not ask him go
to win the game because they didn't have, to especially
the way the game. Started what the defense is playing,
Now he's completed eighty percent of his, passes Legitimate Heisman trophy,
candidate and he's throwing THE i think the two best
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receivers in the.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Sport, YEAH i, mean you've seen him throw so much
confidence to those.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Guys he's thrown fifty to fifty balls with the belief
they're going to come down with it and they.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Are oh, No Ohio state's RECEIVING i, mean heartlines changed
the whole. PROGRAM i, mean it's, LIKE i think the
receivers are better than their. Linebackers and for years it
was a you know, linebacker you when.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
You look at everything sized.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
UP i thought one of the things about college football last,
year it's more of AN nfl. Feel it's, longer you can,
lose you can lose. Late it's really about going into
the tournament, healthy with a little try. Momentum Although Ohio
state didn't have. It do you worry?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That last?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Year Ohio state came into the playoff, angry they lost
as a favorite To. Michigan they had a lot to.
Prove there was absolute. Urgency this year they're rolling. People
how do you change that psychology from the? Hunter because,
PEOPLE i Mean Ryan day and that before That tennessee,
game people were writing him. Out and now you look
(07:57):
like the dominant. Team how do you do it changed?
That do you worry about?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That as a?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Coach it's like we're a number one and everybody forget
The natty we won last. Year we look clearly like
the best. Team does that worry? You how do you
optimize that as a? Coach and does it concern?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
You it? Does but everything worries.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Me every title we won three, titles and every time
we had that reset, loss you, know it was Either,
auburn it Was Ole miss in, eight it was who
we lose to WHEN i was At Ohio. STATE i
can't remember, now but we always had that Recent i'm
going to actually ask you that question To Dan lanning.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
TOMORROW i was going to join us On Big.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Noon Has oregon has had a reset ever since that
loss To Indiana Ohio state is? Rolling you want to
coach a pissed off, Team i'm sure there's a way
that Coach day's trying to figure out a way to
get that team angry in the stretch run Here certainly
coming up in a few weeks in Ann, arbor they'll
be plenty angry for that.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
One. Yeah how anything in the college football? Rankings did you?
Disagree agree with?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
It? You okay with? IT i thought they did a good.
Job AND i think this is Interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Colin we've talked about out with the Old, CLEMSON, Lsu Penn, State,
Florida Florida State wolverines that are kind of out and
then in how about THIS Iu ole MISS Byu Texas, Tech, Utah,
Mandy Georgia tech all of a shot for the college
playoff parody and college football has never been.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
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Speaker 4 (09:59):
Crazy you.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Know i'm glad you're taking a positive spin ON u
On Lincoln, riley because WHEN i saw that, STORY i,
thought oh, boy.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
No way, here come, on people are.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
LISTEN i know he's a good, coach but there is
something about USC's program there's been. Stumbled we Know kiff
and can, coach we Know lincoln can, coach we Know
sark can, coach, right and there's something IN i don't
know what it, is the.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
ROADBLOCK i don't KNOW i refuse to believe. That call.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
IT i really do you think you think he's. STAYING
i think he, stays AND i think they go on
a great. Run but all, RIGHT i have to talk
to him about.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Hey by the, way there's a great pizza place In Iowa.
City it's called The. AIRLINER i had a sausage pizza.
THERE i crushed, it and it's called The. Airliner and
don't order it next to. Liner he'll eat the whole.
Thing but it's it's a great. Place go there. Tonight
my name won't help, you But Iowa city is an underrated.
Place they don't like.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
You it's on.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
There but that, well you, know that's, life big ten.
Country i'll throw your neighbor. Else see what. Happens, YEAH i.
DON'T i can tell you what will. HAPPENED i called them,
That what DID i call? Them the fake idea of
college football for ten? Years they don't like me there at. All,
okay save it, for save it for you know it
plays better Than. Arbor i'll say, that all, Right, Urban all, Right,
(11:22):
YEAH i Think lincoln's going to be. Fine it's just, uh,
listen they've had good coaches, There sark And lane And,
lincoln these very respected.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Coaches it's hard to.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Win it is, interesting, though if you look at the
college football, landscape you Got Ole miss and b Y
u And Texas. Tech AND i just talked to somebody,
yesterday very tight endo college. Football he, Said alabama's having money.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Problems it just it's just.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Hard it's just there's just who were your richest four.
Boosters it's it's, changing it changing the. DYNAMIC H, james the.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
News turn on the. News this is The Herdline.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
News all, right let's get started with an Interesting Brian
dabels story that popped. Up it's courtesy of A wfan
reporter that's a radio station In New York, City so
who knows how accurate this, is but it's sure as.
Spicy he, Says Brian dable was nearly fired after the
loss To.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Denver here it, is And i've.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
Now gotten this from multiple PEOPLE i, trust which is
Why i'm going to come here with. It The giants
were Firing Brian dable off the plane after the collapse In.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Denver really he was fired.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
Fired ownership got, together cooler heads, prevailed and they decided
not to Fire Brian dable off the plane In. Denver
but in the immediacy of that, collapse the decision to
throw on third and five With teegee had crushed. You
after that, game enough apparently was enough from people of
it importance with The giants that he was fired off
(13:02):
the plane In.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Denver so you.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
A couple of weeks, ago were thinking you give Day
bole And dart another year to bake, Right, yes, yes
does this report from whoever this guy is change your?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Mind, well whoever that guy is has been around for a,
while SO i think the report's.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
Ballad so they got The bears this, week their. Dogs
we'll talk about it in headlines in a. Minute then
it's Green Bay. DETROIT i stayed away To. England this
the weather In. Chicago we'll talk about it next.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
GAME i think that. Game don't get over Confident bears. Fans, well, listen.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Listen if The giants lose that and then they Have
Green Bay, Detroit New, England, colin they are looking at
being two and ten pretty.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Much you're in short. ORDER i, mean Day boll could
get fired during the bye.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
WEEK i, mean by the, way what's your take on
normally this like mid season firing Versus.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Hada don't don't remember what The jets did with how
bad you do. That first of, All dable's the best
coach on the. Staff, okay so you let the Best
why would you ever let the best employee in the
department out if he.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Leaves it's one thing if you have.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
The fire him because you're rebuilding, culture you don't let
the best coach in the middle of the season. Go
the second thing is then you put an interim. In
it's the substitute. Teacher everybody plays, hard and then the
fans and the players are all, like we want the interim.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
And that doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Either so my take, is don't Disrupt Jackson dart's. Growth
give Him daball go From Lane kiffin for three, Years
Brian dabole an entire.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Year don't it's not worth.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
It it's like bad teams should not make big sweeping
deals at the trade deadline unless they're getting star players
for the.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Future and the.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Other thing, is don't Disrupt Jackson dart's. Growth this year
is all About Jackson. Dart that the whole year is
About Jackson. DART i, mean he's got no.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Neighbors Kim scataboo cook the, SEASON i don't understand why
you could why you would want to run him off
off a loss To, denver by the, way so many
things had to happen For denver to come back from
down you, know fifty points or.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Whatever remember That denver has done that to like six
teams in a. LOW i don't. Know denver's got much
better players from The.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Giants so, again, like if you're going for The New
York giants, job If Lane kiffin hears this that The
giants were, like we gotta fire this guy after this
brutal loss, AGAIN i would be very. Careful Urban meyer
seems to. Agree if You're Lane, kiffen you're in a great.
Spot they're building a statue of you In, Oxford New York.
Giants you're not going to be an all time great.
(15:36):
Coach they've got an amazing. History you're swimming. UPSTREAM i
don't he's a bad news if You're Jackson dart too,
Right and like you, said him and Day bolls seem
to have a great. Camaraderie all, Right let's move on
to The Patriots bucks game this weekend battle of division.
Leaders drake May is he's playing tremendous football this. Season
he has taking a lot of sacks, Though, Colin, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Where are you on?
Speaker 7 (15:59):
This Drake may absorbing sax versus. TURNING i don't like,
it and it's gotten.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Worse so some of it is, again young quarterbacks struggling
to quickly read coverages tend to hold it a beat.
Longer we see this With Caleb, yep we see it
with Bo. Nicks young quarterbacks tend to hold it just
to beat longer because they're adapting to coverages and it's
much more sophisticated than. College and then the other part
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is there's a lot of great pass rushers in THE
afc and, Football SO i think it's part of being
a young quarterback is When brady was at his best
his last ten, years you couldn't get To Brady. Man
he got the ball out. Immediate Aaron rodgers gets it out,
Fast mahomes gets rid of. It those guys have seen every.
(16:44):
Coverage Drake may is still a developing young. Quarterback and
again in THE, Nfl caleb holds it the longest to
three point. One mahomes gets rid of it. Quickly at
two point, six it's like one. Thousand it's a. Beat
here's the best.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Part may is aware of all, this and he talked
to the media about taking.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Sacks take a. LISTENER a lot of.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
The SACKS i have taken it been my. Fault you
have been me holding the, football and you, KNOW i
want to credit those guys for what they've done in
blitz pickup games and how are they work, on you,
know watching film and watching you, know On, thursdays the
third down cutups and what they do kind of blitz.
Wise so that just my, mindset get it out and
know that there's less, people you, know covered with their
blitzing and just trying to be you know.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Better So i'm looking at The New England. Patriots i'm,
sorry The buccaneers pass. Rush we know What bulls likes to,
do dial up the. Blitz rookie young, quarterbacks he's really.
Dominated do you have any read on this, Game, Colin
we'll be doing it in the headlines here. Shortly.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
WELL i Think New england's had a nice run of
very beatable. Teams The buffalo win was, impressive But, Tampa
Todd bowles dials up some of the, smartest most aggressive
defen blitz is in the. League you go on the,
Road tampa's off a bye that Gives Todd bowles an
extra three or four days a film building a game
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plan against The drake may a young. Quarterback drake is really.
Talented but this is a tough one Because tampa is
in a, fight. RIGHT i Like tampa.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Here, OKAY i don't want to give away my, pick
but we'll do it.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Shortly final, Story colin to your Hometown Chicago.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Bears they had an amazing.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Offensive performance against The bengals last, week but one guy
in particular didn't do. Much rome A, dunza the young
Receiver colin no catches three, targets and then his father
went on social media and liked to post saying The
bears should trade A dunza to a team that will
actually throw to.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Him, boy and Now rome has to answer for his.
Dad take a.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
LISTEN i don't make a big deal out of. It you,
know obviously he has his. OPINIONS i have, mine and
he feels like he needs to voice of things on social.
Media but you know that that's that's his. Prerogative but you,
know he speaks for. HIMSELF i speak for.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Myself.
Speaker 9 (19:06):
Man i'm.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Happy i'm just trying to do my job.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Within this you, know, organization that's you, know.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
As a, leader as a as a, person as an,
individual and then as a football. Player so trying to
excel at you, Know hall Of fame level in both those.
Aspects so that's All i'm focused.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
On what do you make of? It he's too?
Speaker 7 (19:24):
GOOD i mean earlier this, SEASON i was, like, Hey dunzay's.
Good you could TRADE Dj moore and get. Picks but
now The bears are in the wild card. Mix they're
not moving off, anybody. OBVIOUSLY I i like to say
this is much ado about. NOTHING i know you were
a stage dad once with your kids playing, sports.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Right, YEAH i THINK i think some of this she
got to bake. In i'd be more concerned If romadunza
had a brother or a sister generationally, Talking, oh dads
are going to be protective of their sons. Moms i've
said quarterback dad has become pageant. Mom you're just getting
people that are trying to do the best for their,
(20:02):
kids but they're kind of. DELUSIONAL i would worry if
it was Like Roma donze's you know, What Michael vick's
brother would talk or did, that because brothers tell each
other stuff they don't tell dad or.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Mom, right dads are always going to be. Protected like
it's just the reality of.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
It, YEAH i do wonder if the weather isn't. Awful
it looks like it's going to be. Windy giants are
down two quarterbacks again and it's just giants seems beat.
UP i like The bears a lot this. Weekend how
would job the weather is, slacked.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
But he just looked up the weather. REPORT i like
The bears. Here i'll just leave it, that. OKAY J
mack Within, Vidus.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by The
Herd line.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
News he's been, hot he's got his. Picks tomorrow's headlines.
Today next.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Be sure to catch live editions Of The Herd weekdays
And Noonie star not A.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Empacific, well it's that time of the week that we
can size up The blazing five Against jmaxx. Picks when
we do agree our hit, rates it's pretty. STRONG i
see eighty six point four percent on what they say
on CHAT Gp, no, no on the. Internet they're following
all our picks every every. Week so all, right the
(21:22):
former the former Fish rap editor newspaper Guy, jmack it's.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Called tomorrow's headlines.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Today what's your headline going to be On monday for
The patriots at the.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Box at least you didn't call me an ink stained.
WRETCH i like this game a. Lot this is really fascinating.
Too powers from each, conference the headline For Patriots bucks
will be yo ho ho oh no, no, no pirate
ship plundered By. Mayflower i'm going with your Guy Drake
(21:56):
may And nuckland tell some interesting. Stuff first of, all
you just Said Todd off a bye And i'm, like oh,
yeah let me look that. Up so he is not
a scheme. Guy he's a walk around. Guy defensive, coach
one in five off the by in his career with
The jets And. Tampa, interestingly he does love to. Blitz
tampa seventh in. Blitzrait but how Is Drake may done
against the?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Blitz this is.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
Staggering number one IN qbr in the league against the.
Blitz he is second in big. Plays he's a reading
to react. Quarterback Drake may's really, good. MAN i don't
want to be, like, hey top ten quarterback in the.
League he's, Good but it's not like his receivers are, amazing,
RIGHT i, Mean Stefon diggs is showing well.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
LATELY i just like What i've seen from May.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Vrabel very good, coach final fun Stat Christian gonzalez is
a GO i would assume they're going to have him
locked Into. Abuka SO i know people are, saying, Oh
gonzales got. Cooked he got roasted By Drake. London not.
Really they did a good job Moving london. Around Christian
gonzales Against Drake london only allowed three catches on seven
targets for sixty seven, Yards so he was really pretty
(22:57):
good Against. London the other guys got. ROASTED i Like
Drake mayn and The patriots to go in and pull
a bit of an upset as two and a half point.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Dogs wow tomorrow's headlines. TODAY i stayed away from this
game because of the. WEATHER i Think chicago's Better giants
at The.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
BEAR i thought, you as a New chicago, resident would
love this wind and. Rain the headline For Bears giants
will be Strip Mall rebuild A bear revives This chicago.
FRANCHISE i gotta go with The bears, Here. Colin everything
lines up to me As chicago in this. Spot SO
i did just look up the, weather.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Rain and win all.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Morning it's going to be ugly thirties during the game
and a lot of, wind but no. Precipitation it doesn't
appear as of now for. ME i just wonder if
The giants have maybe thrown in the towel on the.
Season you look at the injury report and more guys
are getting added every. Week their Kicker, gano he may not.
Go they may have to sign Former falcons. Kicker their
center not at practice. Today looks like he's going to
(23:55):
be ruled. Out they're down their top two. Cornerbacks this
is a mass. Unit and again It's Jackson dart against the.
WORLD i like to Think Dennis, allen who's been up
and down as a defensive coordinator this. YEAR i think
he can scheme stuff. Up AND i really like This
chicago run Game colin worst run defense in the league
by a.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Lot The New York.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Giants this is a Swift Kyle, manungai however you say his.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
NAME i like them going over two hundred yards.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Combined Caleb safe throws no, Turnovers bears twenty seven to.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Thirteen tomorrow's headlines Today cardinals at The. Seahawks now it's
a division. Game it's a, big big. Number arizona may
be feeling. Themselves but it Is Jacoby brossett.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
STARTING i got burned by a division game last. Night
REMEMBER i was on The, broncos but not the.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Case.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Here the headline For Arizona seattle will Be tacoma Tos y.
Snooze you Lose week ten In. SEATTLE i am on The.
Seahawks here fun. Stat arizona has not Beaten seattle since
twenty twenty. One now a lot of That's Kyler murray
who has been dreadful Against. Seattle he's not, starting which
(25:02):
was your good, point by the, way this earlier, meeting
it was twenty to Six seattle with like six minutes
left before some luckbox stuff at the. End So jacoby
presets In. Collin we like presset as a.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Backup.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Yeah how many weeks of tape we got on? Him
now it's not just one or. Two this is what
he's been playing for a. While he looks. Good kyler's on.
Ir jacoby can breathe. Easy he's the guy. NOW i
just wonder This seattle. Defense did you see what they
were doing To Jayden.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Daniels oh it was.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Brutal he couldn't do. ANYTHING i, mean they are swarming
they're fully. HEALTHY i think all eleven starters are. Back
these are one of the nastier defensive units in the.
League they've been spotty at, home which has to be
a little. CONCERNED i don't know why they're so good
on the, road any, theories because historically this.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Team's been really Well.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Geographically it's a long road trip almost everywhere except Like San.
Francisco SO i think defense and run games travel. Well
AND i think under McDonald they're a run team first
and they play. Defense and, oh by the, way just,
Now Will, johnson eight quarterback out Of, michigan ruled out For.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Arizona that's not good For.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Arizona wasn't the knock on him that he was kind
of injury prone At.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Michigan he.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wasn't he wasn't a burner, like he wasn't a lockdown.
Corner he's been.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Good they're gonna miss him because this GUY jsn might
be the best receiving in the.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
League tomorrow's headlines, Today Rams. NINERS i think it's low
scoring in Close, jmack what say?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
You? Oh scoring The niners get hemorrhaging points of The.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Giants the headline For Niners rams will Be puka, Shlocking niners, drubbed, clubbed.
SCRUBBED i don't like the vibes around The niners.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
This week at. All have you NOTICED i think you
picked this.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Up Kyle shanahan's getting a Little he's never smiling during
these press. Conferences colin sixteen guys on the injury report
for The niners. Sixteen they are dead last in pressure
rate in the. League sala cannot generate pressure Without Bosa,
hoff who is, practicing we'll. See and then they lost
the young Guy Mikail. Williams so you're telling Me Matt
stafford's in a clean pocket With pooka who's clear to play,
(27:00):
healthy no no, Designation Pokah DeVante. ADAMS i, MEAN i
don't want to say The rams could pick their score.
HERE i have a feeling this could get. UGLY i
Know shanahan's been doing a great, job BUT i JUST
i look at this team and they're just not healthy.
Enough colin and The rams. Defense by the, way you
were on this early with Versus.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Collin it's. Fantastic.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
NOW i know it was just The saints and they
face some pretty bad, teams but they're flying around in
the front seven very confident.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
GROUP i like The rams here.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Big, Finally tomorrow's headlines TODAY nfc heavyweight Matchup philly At Green.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Bay, yeah so this is one where WE i think
we disagree on. You you love you Some, eagles AND
i like The eagles a. Lot Jalen hurts out here
giving out fortune cookie advice at the press conference is
a really like likable. Guy but the headline For Packers
eagles will Be poutine on the Rigs philly creamed By Cheeze.
(27:55):
WHIZZIES i like The packers, Here. Colin this is a
great bounce Back scott spot for Green. Bay they may
have been looking ahead last. WEEK i think they probably.
Were it was a trap game Against. Carolina we talked
about that Last. Friday and, oh by the, way they
didn't punt in that. Game they moved the ball up
and down the. Field just ineptitude kicking turnover on. DOWNS
i think the pressure from Green bay up, front led
(28:16):
By Micah, parsons gets To Jalen.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
HURTS i think the Green Bit packer secondary grades out really.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Good you're taking four out of five favorites, too just
different On.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Thanks for reminding, Me no And Bryce, young by the,
way you had one hundred and two yards passing last.
Week let's not act like The panthers run up and
down the field and killed. Them SO i think there's
a tough spot For. PHILLY i Like micah and company
when they need to show up against the best. Teams
Green bay historically has done that at. Home, yeah SO
i like, them especially.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Under a field.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Goal the other story, today and it's just, Supposition BUT
i talked about this, earlier not trying to holes or
start little. Campfires earlier this, week let me put my
tinfoil hat On lebron's camp saying he would not make
(29:06):
the five game road. Trip Then Luca wednesday night has
one of his games of the. Year they beat red
Hot San, antonio they Stemy, wemby and the next morning
the sciatica nerve is apparently not getting On lebron's nerves
and he is now. Allowed contact is now, Allowed, GUYS
(29:35):
i don't. Know it seems weird that that story went
From i'm not, traveling the nerve is a. Problem luca's,
great they Beat wemby And lebron make sure it gets
out there, that, UH i am ready to.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Roll Austin reeves also did not play Against wemby Basically
luca and a bunch of Dudes by kind of by.
Himself you you, REALLY i think you're just stirring the pot.
Here you need to go hang out With lebron. Again
it's been a couple of, years, right SINCE i Like.
Lebron i'm Pro, lebron, right but it is it felt.
Intentional Sometimes lebron's camp, is you, know a little. Manipulative
(30:11):
they like to get, there they like to get their message.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Out Not lebron's, Camp no, Way, okay, fine.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
It was interesting not going on the, Roadie i'm, Available, yeah, Contact,
like how did just Suddenly.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
I'm seeing people putting nonsense out, there, like, Hey lebron
should come off the bench so he doesn't mess up the.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Vibes he was second Team ALL nba last. Time what are?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Doing i'm interested to Watch, Luca austin And. Lebron there's
one ball and they're all very good with the ball
in their. HANDS i mean When, luke When luke And
lebron didn't, play it was Just. Austin he was dropping. Forties,
YEAH i.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Got the numbers from our. GUY i Asked, zach how
many games have they played? Together Luca lebron And reeves
twenty six games. Together that's.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
It that's what a third of a.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Season it's a better version of The Brooklyn nets WITH
kd And harden And.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Kyrie it's not.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
Terrible luca was last, year, right and then this Year.
Lebron they're gonna be. FINE i TRUST Jj. Reddick he,
was he was podcast partners With. Lebron you didn't eve gonna.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
KNOW i don't.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
WORRY Jj reddick is a very good. COACH i think
he's a growing. COACH i think he's, fine BUT i you,
know it's it's, UH i, Mean. Lebron we have to
be honest about. This i'm Pro. Lebron he makes sure
timing with his social media and his. Messaging he's very
aware of branding and and he's very measured when he
(31:35):
has to, be and very. Calculating it just it was
just funny to. Me can't make the Roadie luca look?
Great knock off The. SPURS i, HELLO i am available.
Soon this is throwing it. Out don't forget about.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Me i'm still. Here keep your eye on The. Dodgers
what's going on the stories out there about The. Dodgers
maybe another big, acquisition it's just a little a little
bite for the. Week, yeah
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