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November 7, 2025 • 16 mins

Richard Sherman breaks down a wild NFL trade deadline from the Seattle Seahawks adding deep threat Rashid Shaheed to the New York Jets’ shocking decision to trade All-Pro corner Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts. Sherman gives his unfiltered take on why the Dallas Cowboys’ big move for Quinnen Williams could change their defense, how the Colts might’ve overpaid, and which teams came out as real winners. Plus, Sherm drops his Thursday Night Football pick.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Proadcast. And it's the
trade deadline, so you know there's moves happening, but there
are some huge moves. We're gonna start off with the
Seattle Seahawks getting wide receiver Rashid Shaheed, the speedster that
played for the New Orleans Saints. This is a great
addition to this receiving corps that has been thriving. I mean,

(00:26):
we always talk about Jackson Smith and Jigba Young, Tory
Horton has been having a good season. You all know
Cooper Cup and what he's done, although he's on the
shelf right now. But this, this trade changes the way
people are gonna defend the Seattle Seahawks or they're just
gonna they're gonna deal with deep passes over their heads

(00:47):
because you cannot win on one. This guy has next
level speed and the Saints used it really consistently over
the last couple of years. I'm sure I don't have
the exact stats in front of me, but I'm sure
he's amongst the league leaders and in yards per catch
and and and yards per route, et cetera, et cetera.
Because most of his routes are coming down the field. Uh.

(01:08):
He's a legitimate deep threat in this National Football League.
And he gives Sam Donald in this offense another weapon
coming off one of their best games of the season.
To get another weapon like this that stretches a defense,
that that makes those safeties take a take another step back,
makes those corners play a little less ambitious. I don't
think teams will play this team and man coverage as

(01:29):
they have been. If they do, I would expect Sam Donald,
Jackson Smith, and Jigba and their new receiver Rashid Shaheed
to to really.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Have a field day.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I think this is gonna be a great trade uh
for the Seattle Seahawks, and it's gonna work for both sides.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's gonna work for both sides.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Uh. It gives him a fresh start on a team
that's really competitive. Things aren't going great right now in
New Orleans. It looks like they're gonna be picking early
in the draft. This is a young, fun team that's excited.
Can rats to Mike McDonald and John Snyder for making
this trade. This is one of the perfect trades of
this trade deadline. There are bigger moves there are you know,

(02:09):
people trading first round picks, etc. We're gonna get to that.
But in terms of a fit of a perfect fit scenario,
this guy fits in with this culture, with what this
team's trying to do offensively, and he has an obvious
role that he fits in this offense. He played with
played for Clint Kubiak when he was went New Orleans

(02:31):
last season, so there's familiarity there. Clint Kubiak knows how
to use this guy, and I'm sure that's why they
made the call when they saw that New Orleans wasn't
gonna be competitive this season, to get this guy in
the fold. Again, you don't know a lot of these guys.
You don't feel good. You know, people who don't know
this guy are gonna gonna be really positively surprised at

(02:51):
the impact that he can make each and every game,
uh and each and every week, even when he's not
getting a ball. The pressure that he puts on the defense,
the awareness that you have to have of where he
is on the field in case they take a shot
with him, because if you're not, by the time you're
aware of him, he's running past you. The balls up
and the way Sam Darnold has been delivering this season it's.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Gonna be trouble.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So this is This is one of my favorite trades
of the of the deadline so far.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
The other huge.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Notable trades is it looks like the New York Jets
are in a full fire sale traded away to all
pro players. They got some a lot of picks in it.
I'm not sure I agree with these moves. I mean,
you usually the guys that are untouchable are untouchable for

(03:46):
a reason, and you don't trade franchise pillars. Now Sauce Gardner,
I think I understand why they traded him. I'm not
a fan of using two first rounders on a corner.
And I'm a corner. I'm a former NFL corner. I
felt like I played at a high level. There are very
few corners that can you can justify trading two first
round picks for The Rams did it when they got

(04:10):
Jalen Ramsey and then they won a Super Bowl, so
they can feel justified with that. The Coats are doing
it hoping for the same, hoping that he takes him
to the next level, which which he just may may.
But the production from a corner that you expect are interceptions.

(04:30):
There are interceptions if you're trading for a corner, that's
a guy you expect to pick the ball at least
three to four, maybe four to five times a season,
change a game. Sauce is an elite corner, there's no
question about that. But trading two first round picks is
really really that's that's general. So I think that was

(04:51):
the deal the Jets took because they could not refuse.
They could not not take that deal you offered him.
That's a deal they could not walk away from. And
I understand that getting two first round picks for a corner,
I don't know many teams that would say no to
that because of what you can do. Obviously, the Jets
are trying to stock up draft picks to potentially get
their next franchise quarterback. They haven't been great about picking

(05:13):
franchise quarterbacks. Will it change this year? Who knows. But
I understan I can understand the logic and trade and
Sauce Gardner for two first round picks. I can understand.
I don't understand the logic from the Colts. I think
he will help. I'm excited that they're giving Louis an

(05:34):
Rumo the AMMO that he needs to fuel this very
talented and stingy defense that they have developing out there
in Indianapolis. He was not allowed, he was not given
these kind of these kind of big time playmakers in Cincinnati,
and Steele was able to try to battle and try

(05:55):
to make competitive teams. And I'm excited about what the
coach defense is going to be. I think this is
a bit of an overpaid but I think that's the
only reason that Sauce was available is because they went
over and beyond. They gave him an offer that they
could not refuse. I think it's also be great in
this system. I think he'll be great for the Indianapolis Colts.

(06:16):
I think he's an elite corner and apparently this is
the price you paid for an elite corners. Only his
second time since nineteen ninety that a player has been
traded for two first round picks in season who Sauce
has had fifteen tackles this year, six PBUs and no interceptions.

(06:38):
Hopefully that changes with his time and Indie. Good luck to Sauce.
I'm excited to see how that goes. They also traded
receiver at a Ni Mitchell as part of the deal
to the Jets. I knew Adanni Mitchell was going to
be out of Indie when he when he dropped the
ball over the gold line against the Rams. That was

(07:00):
the bonehead player of the year. He also got a
holding call in that game that negated a fifty yard
Jonathan Taylor touchdown. You make those kind of mistakes in
the season on this special because they could have easily
won that game against the Rams. That would have been
a big time quality win. They'd be seven Nard, they'd
be eight and one right now. That was something Shane

(07:22):
Styke felt like he couldn't live with, and they made
the move that they felt was necessary. The Dallas Cowboys
Jerry called it. Jerry said, hey, we're gonna make a
big trade. Just wait before the game. I'm sure he
didn't think that that trade would be the best news
they had because they got their butts kicked by the

(07:43):
Arizona Cardinals and Jacobe Brissett. But they trade for Quinn Williams,
the All Pro player, the All Pro defensive tackle for
the from the again New York Jets. They used one
of the picks they got in the Micah Parsons trade
in a second round pick and send over Mozzie Smith
quinnin Williams is exactly what they need. They got Kenny

(08:06):
Clark already. This is this is shaping. It looks like
it's shaping out to be a very formidable defensive line.
He has the second most run stuffs this season. He's
done a great job against the run. He's a ferocious
pass rusher. Uh. If there's a reason he's been All
Pro even on bad defenses, bad teams with the Jets,

(08:29):
because I think the Jets have had some good defenses,
but he's been a standout player for them for a
long time. But there's been some discontent. He's been disgruntled.
You heard about it when they got rid of Aaron
Rodgers and how that happened.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
We'll see how this.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
One plays out, but you can you can tell there's
some frustration between some of these players, some of the
big time pillar players and management, whether it's whether it's
the head coach or the front office. And it's even
more clear today, You're you're not expecting to win anytime
in the near future. Uh So you're you're you're stocking
up picks. Maybe you can go. Maybe you believe a

(09:08):
quarterback worth a lot of movement. Uh is gonna be
available in this draft a quarterback of the future, but
that hasn't been the case for a lot of these
quarterbacks the Jets have have have picked up.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
And and it's.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's not by almost any fault of the players, because
it doesn't seem like the Jets are equipped to develop
young quarterbacks. And that's just what the history says. I'm
not trying to be biased in any way, but that's
what the history is said. Aaron Glenn is going to
have his work cut out for him going forward. I
look forward to to seeing how this season. I mean,

(09:44):
obviously this season has has has already been what it's
going to be. Uh. They got to win this season,
which was surprising the way they started. But it looks
like they they are they're mailing it in and giving
up on this season. M hm. And likely they're gonna
have a high draft pick coming up, and they'll have
other draft picks and we'll see what they do with

(10:06):
them and if they can build a competitive roster and
give Aaron Glenn uh more opportunities to to to coach
these young men in established culture or what direction they
go after this season.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
But these are some interesting moves.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Not many times do you do you see multiple franchise
players from the same franchise being moved on the trade deadline.
But these are these are these are things they couldn't
pass up. But if I'm the Jets for an office,
and I got all these picks in the next couple
of years, let's start just building a good team. You're

(10:41):
gonna be young. Now you'll likely get your quarterback. I
think you got a one good tackle. Could you get another?
I think you gotta go try to get a tackle.
That's that's where you want to start. You've you've drafted
pass rushers in in the past and it hasn't worked out.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Great.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Friend, you drafted an elite corner, you paid him all
that good stuff. You just traded him away. So now
you're gonna need another corner, quarterback, tackle, corner. You got
a receiver. You got a receiver I think you feel
great about You can always use more at a nine.
Mental should be fine for now. Offensive line, offensive line,

(11:24):
if they're a quality offensive line. There that's where you
go protect this young quarterback for the foreseeable future. If
you're gonna draft a quarterback with your first pick and
you feel great about him and he's the future of
your franchise. Put some people in front of him that
can block for him. You're probably gonna need some detackles now,

(11:45):
but that's later on. Quarterback, protectors, corner. Those are your
first things. Three things you need to do. Some of
them you can draft. Some of you you can pick
up in free agency. We'll see what you do. Luck
Jets and to Dallas fans, they're saying, hey, we traded
Micah and we got Kenny Clark, and we got Quinn

(12:06):
Williams and we got another pick. That's that's cool, that's great,
and and it may work out fantastic. This is these
are these are built building blocks for franchise. But right now,
this has been a disaster of a season for the
for the Dallas Cowboys. So hopefully these things in the
future and they're building winning habits and they're getting guys

(12:28):
in the building that can help ustablsh re establish culture
for what.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
They want to have.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I think Shoty, I mean, Jerry and Shoddy, that's what
they're trying to do. You want to build a great defense,
you get great players, and these are these are great players.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
These are guys that can.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Impact winning weekend and week out, but you still got
to get guys back there covering in the back end.
They got to tighten up some of these coverage issues
that they're having. They're playing band coverage and guys are
losing one on ones.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
But we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
The Dallas Cowboys will be a talking point, no question
about it. The San Francisco forty nine ers made their
move a little earlier. They got Keon White, they signed
Cleveland Ferrell. Those are good, good moves, you know. I
thought they would would go again. I thought they would
get another pass rusher. I'm sure the prices just were
too high. Obviously, Trey Hendrickson did not move at all,

(13:21):
so I'm sure the price was just just above what
they were willing to pay for a rental, which is
which is odd about why the Philadelphia Eagles traded for
Jalen Phillips, Who's gonna be a good pass rusher and
fit this scheme. And everybody's like the rich getting richer,
But a third rounder for a guy that's on his
contract year seems to be a steep price. But again,

(13:43):
if you win the Super Bowl, then the price is
worth it. Every single time they needed more pass rush help,
they've been beaten up. They they needed some more depth,
and they got that. I think that's a good move,
and you got to trust Howie Roseman at this point.
You gotta trust him. He's got a he's got a
great resume and a great track record.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
So I'm not gonna be the one to criticize them.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
But I just thought that was a decent a decent compensation,
and I think the Miami Dolphins, who are in a
fire sale right now, are happy with it. I thought
more players would be going out of Miami. I thought
they would deal more players. I thought it was twenty
five players in season. It's the most players traded in season,
tied for the most players traded in season the past

(14:26):
twenty five years. The most first rounders dealt in season
in the past twenty five season, three of them. Twenty
nineteen was the same. But it's a crazy trended deadline.
I thought more teams would make moves, but we'll see
you can't make any others. So I'm sure you'll after this,
you'll hear about guys asking for their release, etc. From

(14:48):
some of these teams that aren't competitive right now, especially
veteran players hoping to get picked up by a contender.
That'll be the next step, no question about it. Now
for our Hard Rock TNF prediction, odds and lines come
from our partners at hard Rock Bet. We've got the
Raiders at the Broncos on Thursday Night football. Hard Rock

(15:08):
Bet had the Broncos at nine point favorites in this game.
I think that's legitimate. The Raiders has struggled, struggled mightily
this year, unfortunately by guy Gino. Smith has struggled with
turnovers and interceptions. He found his rhythm last week. He
threw for four touchdowns last week. Because Brock Bauers is back,

(15:30):
he's one of their big weapons. They traded Jacobi Meyers,
a guy who was unhappy. They traded him to the
Jacksonville Jaguars for a fourth and sixth round pick. So
there's the covers kind of bear. And I think going
against this Broncos defense with Riley Moss and Talanoah Hufanga
and Bonito and Cooper and Zach Allen, it's a tough

(15:51):
defense to not have a ton of weapons against. And
I think with that kind of pass rush, this is
gonna be a long day for the Raiders. They're won
in the Unfortunately, I feel got bad for my guy Pete,
but I feel like the Broncos are gonna be able
to cover.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
But who knows.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
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I know you could be anywhere in the world, but
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