November 8, 2025 • 11 mins
Jon Jones went on the record to call Tom Aspinall "INCREDIBLY OVERRATED" after seeing him fight one round against Ciryl Gane in the heavyweight championship fight that was ruled a no contest. Daniel Cormier gives his take on Jones' comments, and reveals EXACTLY WHY Jon is saying those things about Tom. DC says Jon isn't telling the whole truth because Tom is still technically his competition since Jones came back to the UFC and MMA from retirement. Don't miss Cormier's unfiltered take on Jones' viral video and what he thought of the Aspinall-Gane fight!
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Speaker 2 (01:48):
What's up, guys?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It is Thursday, November six and welcome to a brand
new episode of Daniel Cormier TV, brought to you by
Total Wild's, the official wilds provider of UFC in your
corner with unlimited five G data that will not slow
you down. So when Tom Aspinall got poked in the
eye by Cyril Gon, we started to operate with the
(02:11):
expectation that John Jones, I'm saying we and me in
terms of me Chill Son, in the talking heads of
the sport, we started to kind of talk or think
that John Jones would have opinions. Obviously he has, so
he's now started to talk about Tom Aspinall. Before it
was kind.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Of subtle, right he changed, Actually it wasn't subtle.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It was very forward in the way that he approached Aspinall.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But he didn't approach Aspinall uh with words.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
First it was a social media profile photo of him
as the duck. Next thing you know, there's an eye
patch on the duck. Same night, right, that's John going
to Tom. Then John goes to dirty boxing and he's
on the horse and he's wearing the eye patch. That's
another shot at Tom Aspinall. But finally, now John is
(03:12):
speaking about Tom Aspinall.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
One thing.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You guys have to understand about this whole thing, though,
When John Jones is getting called a duck, right, when
John Jones is getting told that Tom Aspinall is the
guy that's going to beat him, he's sitting back hoping
that something happens to give him a reason to go
and downplay that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We spoke about it prior to the fight.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I told you guys, if Cyril Gun won, John would
constantly go, that's the guy he's ought was gonna beat me.
I don't know that that finish isn't more satisfying to
a guy like Jones because now he can almost guess
(03:58):
what would have happened, even if that might not be true.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Tom Aspinall.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Make no mistake about it, Cyril Gun was finding a
lot of success in round one, more than many people.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Thought that he was going to.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But Cyril could have either continued to build or Tom
could have completely settled himself and turned that around.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Guys, that was a four minute round of a fight.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
They did not fight a long fight to really form
an opinion. He couldn't really form an opinion as strongly
as so many have. I think the reason they formed
an opinion in a strong way that they did because
they'd never seen Tom struggle at all. But I told
(04:48):
you before the fight this was easily gonna be the
hardest thing he'd ever done. Anyhow, Jones now is saying
that Tom Aspinall isn't who you who are? We all
said that he is. He was speaking Luis. Who was
he talking to? He was talking to the No Scripts
(05:09):
podcast and he said, Hey, Tom is a bit of
a one trick pony. He's a great athlete, but I
think he's a one trick pony. I believe his wrestling
and his jiu jitsu are incredibly overrated. He has a
beautiful one two combination. I got to learn a lot
(05:30):
about his patterns in his last fight. That's really about it.
That's the one thing that he's setting up real nice.
He couldn't touch the Rogan. That's the way that I felt.
And there's a lot in there right. Look, guys, Tom
(05:50):
Aspinall does have a great one too. Tom Aspinall's one
two is the combination that he has finished all those
fights with. Tom's not hitting guys with left hooks, He's
not hitting them with upper cuts.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
He's throwing a one two.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But he's so fast and he sets it up so
well with his footwork and ability that most of these
heavyweights can't see it, and they can't time it enough
to either counter.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It or just avoid it.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
They get hit and Tom it's so hard that he
knocks people out with it. Joone said in that fight
he was able to pick up on a lot of
his patterns.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Again, guys, it was four minutes, four minutes.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We don't know what the next twenty one minutes would
have looked like.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
We just don't. We just don't.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
But we as fighters, when we are watching someone that's
a potential opponent or someone that becomes your opponent, you
look for holes. You don't give him credit for the
things that they do. And that's why I feel that
the moment I started doing television in twenty twelve and
(07:02):
I was passed with calling these guys fights and working
at the desk and trying to be as neutral as
I possibly could, I became a better fighter because I
was calling Vocanose the mirrors very first fight when he
(07:23):
got into the UFC. Not I think he fought osp
I called that fight. So I'm watching this young kid, right,
that's doing all these things well, and I was like
giving him credit.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
For doing those things well.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So when he became my opponent later, I still had
to recall the credit I gave him for the things
that he did well, instead of watching that same fight
and finding.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Only holes in his game because those aren't real. They're
not real. But that's what Jones's doing.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Jones's watching Aspa only as a potential opponent, so in
that he's going, well, that's bad and this is bad. Well,
he doesn't do this very well. Then he finds that
one thing he can give him credit for. But everything
else sucks, right, The jiu jitsu sucks, the restling sucks.
Here's a good one too, everybody. It's hard because he
(08:21):
can't turn that off. He can't turn off that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
One day.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
He may fight Tom Aspinall, but you have to look
at it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
With a clear mind.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But again, commentary taught me that, not me the fighter,
because I could never give guys credit before I started
calling their fights. I called Anthony Johnson's last fight against
Alexander Gustusson before he fought for the title, and I
remember being so impressed when he beat him, and I
remember watching him beat Phil Davis and going, Wow, Anthony's
(08:55):
gotten so much better. He does this well, he does
this well, he does this well well.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So when I got in the Octa and I'm like, well, I.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Gotta avoid this, this and this because I know how
good he is at it. Maybe Tom Aspinall isn't what
john built him up to be in his mind prior
to that fight, but I don't know that we saw
enough to form an opinion of his overall game in
four minutes. It's just the truth, It's just the truth.
(09:24):
Jose then went on to say, let me see here.
I'm trying to find it. He said he couldn't touch
Cyril at all. That's the way I felt. I felt
God was getting warmed up his hands were down, he
was shaking his shoulders, he was bouncing around, touching him.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
He was so comfortable.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That all is true, that's all true. I thought Cyril
looked really good. He's bouncing, he's moving, he looked like
he was gaining in confidence. He looked like he was
gaining in confidence. But are we ready to say that
that was going to happen for twenty five minutes, Sarah,
(10:03):
Gon's a big guy to be able to move like
that for twenty five minutes, it's hard. Maybe good we
see him do it at times he was gonna be pressed.
But I don't know that we saw enough to form
that strong an opinion.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Or maybe I'm just hating on Jones. I don't know.
I don't know, but I need you guys to help
me with it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
So in those comments, let me know, is John Jones
being a little bit too harsh?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Like, can we really form that strong.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
An opinion based on four minutes the tom aspinal I
deserve a little grace and are we reacting only in
this way because we've never seen him struggle at all?
And also how much could you struggle in four minutes?
He had a bloody nose. I think because he had
that bloody nose. It made people feel, oh my god,
(10:54):
this dude's in trouble. But again, here's still twenty one
minutes left in the fight. I watch how beating Omega
matter off, lose a round to Justin Gage and end
up submitting them afterwards and overtaking the fight. A lot
can change between minute four and minute seven, nine, fifteen,
(11:14):
twenty one all the way to twenty five. You guys
get the point. Can we make that strong an opinion
of that fight based on four minutes? All right, you guys,
let me know, let me know those comments. Let's get
that debate going on that until next time, Guys like
subscribing to tell you friends about my YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Peace
The volume. All right, guys, say show is brought to
you by a new sponsor, hard Rock Bet. Hard Rock
Bet is a top rated sportsbook app. It might just
take the belt from any other sportsbook app that you
use once you open it up and you see it
for yourself. And guys, if you haven't tried your first
(00:24):
bet on hard rock Bet, there's still time if you
can get one to fifty and bonus bets if you win,
so place a five dollar bet. If that bet hits,
you not only get your winnings, but you get one
hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets right away. Guys,
Today's a great day to try the hard Rock Bet
sports app. So it's not just the welcome offer. You
(00:45):
can get bonus bets. You can get parlay, insurance.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
And other rewards. The rewards and the promos are NonStop.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So download the hard rock Bet app and make your
first deposit today and bonus betts is not a cash
offer offered by the Seminal Tribe of Florida and Florida offered.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
By Siminal hard Rock Digital, LLC. In all other states.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You must be twenty one or older and physically present
in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee,
or Virginia to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about
gambling in Florida called one eight eight eight A d
mit it in Indiana. If you are someone you know
(01:33):
has a gambling problem and wants help, call one eight
hundred nine with it. And if you have a gambling
problem call one eight hundred gambler.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
What's up, guys?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It is Thursday, November six and welcome to a brand
new episode of Daniel Cormier TV, brought to you by
Total Wild's, the official wilds provider of UFC in your
corner with unlimited five G data that will not slow
you down. So when Tom Aspinall got poked in the
eye by Cyril Gon, we started to operate with the
(02:11):
expectation that John Jones, I'm saying we and me in
terms of me Chill Son, in the talking heads of
the sport, we started to kind of talk or think
that John Jones would have opinions. Obviously he has, so
he's now started to talk about Tom Aspinall. Before it
was kind.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Of subtle, right he changed, Actually it wasn't subtle.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It was very forward in the way that he approached Aspinall.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But he didn't approach Aspinall uh with words.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
First it was a social media profile photo of him
as the duck. Next thing you know, there's an eye
patch on the duck. Same night, right, that's John going
to Tom. Then John goes to dirty boxing and he's
on the horse and he's wearing the eye patch. That's
another shot at Tom Aspinall. But finally, now John is
(03:12):
speaking about Tom Aspinall.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
One thing.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You guys have to understand about this whole thing, though,
When John Jones is getting called a duck, right, when
John Jones is getting told that Tom Aspinall is the
guy that's going to beat him, he's sitting back hoping
that something happens to give him a reason to go
and downplay that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We spoke about it prior to the fight.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I told you guys, if Cyril Gun won, John would
constantly go, that's the guy he's ought was gonna beat me.
I don't know that that finish isn't more satisfying to
a guy like Jones because now he can almost guess
(03:58):
what would have happened, even if that might not be true.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Tom Aspinall.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Make no mistake about it, Cyril Gun was finding a
lot of success in round one, more than many people.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Thought that he was going to.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But Cyril could have either continued to build or Tom
could have completely settled himself and turned that around.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Guys, that was a four minute round of a fight.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
They did not fight a long fight to really form
an opinion. He couldn't really form an opinion as strongly
as so many have. I think the reason they formed
an opinion in a strong way that they did because
they'd never seen Tom struggle at all. But I told
(04:48):
you before the fight this was easily gonna be the
hardest thing he'd ever done. Anyhow, Jones now is saying
that Tom Aspinall isn't who you who are? We all
said that he is. He was speaking Luis. Who was
he talking to? He was talking to the No Scripts
(05:09):
podcast and he said, Hey, Tom is a bit of
a one trick pony. He's a great athlete, but I
think he's a one trick pony. I believe his wrestling
and his jiu jitsu are incredibly overrated. He has a
beautiful one two combination. I got to learn a lot
(05:30):
about his patterns in his last fight. That's really about it.
That's the one thing that he's setting up real nice.
He couldn't touch the Rogan. That's the way that I felt.
And there's a lot in there right. Look, guys, Tom
(05:50):
Aspinall does have a great one too. Tom Aspinall's one
two is the combination that he has finished all those
fights with. Tom's not hitting guys with left hooks, He's
not hitting them with upper cuts.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
He's throwing a one two.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But he's so fast and he sets it up so
well with his footwork and ability that most of these
heavyweights can't see it, and they can't time it enough
to either counter.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It or just avoid it.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
They get hit and Tom it's so hard that he
knocks people out with it. Joone said in that fight
he was able to pick up on a lot of
his patterns.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Again, guys, it was four minutes, four minutes.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We don't know what the next twenty one minutes would
have looked like.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
We just don't. We just don't.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
But we as fighters, when we are watching someone that's
a potential opponent or someone that becomes your opponent, you
look for holes. You don't give him credit for the
things that they do. And that's why I feel that
the moment I started doing television in twenty twelve and
(07:02):
I was passed with calling these guys fights and working
at the desk and trying to be as neutral as
I possibly could, I became a better fighter because I
was calling Vocanose the mirrors very first fight when he
(07:23):
got into the UFC. Not I think he fought osp
I called that fight. So I'm watching this young kid, right,
that's doing all these things well, and I was like
giving him credit.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
For doing those things well.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So when he became my opponent later, I still had
to recall the credit I gave him for the things
that he did well, instead of watching that same fight
and finding.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Only holes in his game because those aren't real. They're
not real. But that's what Jones's doing.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Jones's watching Aspa only as a potential opponent, so in
that he's going, well, that's bad and this is bad. Well,
he doesn't do this very well. Then he finds that
one thing he can give him credit for. But everything
else sucks, right, The jiu jitsu sucks, the restling sucks.
Here's a good one too, everybody. It's hard because he
(08:21):
can't turn that off. He can't turn off that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
One day.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
He may fight Tom Aspinall, but you have to look
at it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
With a clear mind.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But again, commentary taught me that, not me the fighter,
because I could never give guys credit before I started
calling their fights. I called Anthony Johnson's last fight against
Alexander Gustusson before he fought for the title, and I
remember being so impressed when he beat him, and I
remember watching him beat Phil Davis and going, Wow, Anthony's
(08:55):
gotten so much better. He does this well, he does
this well, he does this well well.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So when I got in the Octa and I'm like, well, I.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Gotta avoid this, this and this because I know how
good he is at it. Maybe Tom Aspinall isn't what
john built him up to be in his mind prior
to that fight, but I don't know that we saw
enough to form an opinion of his overall game in
four minutes. It's just the truth, It's just the truth.
(09:24):
Jose then went on to say, let me see here.
I'm trying to find it. He said he couldn't touch
Cyril at all. That's the way I felt. I felt
God was getting warmed up his hands were down, he
was shaking his shoulders, he was bouncing around, touching him.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
He was so comfortable.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That all is true, that's all true. I thought Cyril
looked really good. He's bouncing, he's moving, he looked like
he was gaining in confidence. He looked like he was
gaining in confidence. But are we ready to say that
that was going to happen for twenty five minutes, Sarah,
(10:03):
Gon's a big guy to be able to move like
that for twenty five minutes, it's hard. Maybe good we
see him do it at times he was gonna be pressed.
But I don't know that we saw enough to form
that strong an opinion.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Or maybe I'm just hating on Jones. I don't know.
I don't know, but I need you guys to help
me with it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
So in those comments, let me know, is John Jones
being a little bit too harsh?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Like, can we really form that strong.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
An opinion based on four minutes the tom aspinal I
deserve a little grace and are we reacting only in
this way because we've never seen him struggle at all?
And also how much could you struggle in four minutes?
He had a bloody nose. I think because he had
that bloody nose. It made people feel, oh my god,
(10:54):
this dude's in trouble. But again, here's still twenty one
minutes left in the fight. I watch how beating Omega
matter off, lose a round to Justin Gage and end
up submitting them afterwards and overtaking the fight. A lot
can change between minute four and minute seven, nine, fifteen,
(11:14):
twenty one all the way to twenty five. You guys
get the point. Can we make that strong an opinion
of that fight based on four minutes? All right, you guys,
let me know, let me know those comments. Let's get
that debate going on that until next time, Guys like
subscribing to tell you friends about my YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
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