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Nick Wright recaps Week 13 of the NFL season, starting with Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs' upset loss to Dak Prescott's Dallas Cowboys and what each of the teams’ paths to the playoffs look like. Then, Nick discusses the issues with Jalen Hurts' Philadelphia Eagles offense and whether or not Caleb Williams' Chicago Bears are Super Bowl contenders. After, Nick breaks down the Los Angeles Rams' shocking loss to Bryce Young's Carolina Panthers and if the MVP award is slipping away from Matthew Stafford. Next, Nick shares his thoughts on Lane Kiffin leaving Ole Miss for LSU ahead of the College Football Playoff. Later, Nick recaps each and every game from Week 13, and Damonza returns to the show to answer your questions. #Volume

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome in What Driving the Great? Episode three ninety eight.
This episode of What Driving the Credit is presented you
by boost Mobile, and it is a very special episode
because it is the return of Demandse Demonse, fresh off
an undefeated teaser streak and maybe slightly more notably, the

(00:25):
birth of his first child, beautiful Mila, who I got
to spend the weekend with Demonse. How are you feeling how?
We will get into more of this later, but a
quick preview. How is everything?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Everything's great, feeling pretty motivated, energetic in spurts, but but yeah,
overall pretty freaking good.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
It was good to stay back. Yeah, first in the
office yesterday. That's really nice. Okay, good, it was really nice.
So we had a wonderful time with you and Maddie
and Mila and I got back. We flew overnight from
Lax for the second straight year. I made the decision

(01:11):
to book a flight at night the Sunday after Thanksgiving
out of Lax, which, for the second straight year, I
was reminded the final mile of that drive is an
hour and fifteen minutes. Again I didn't know. You guys
got stuck, and but so what we had left ourselves

(01:33):
plenty of time. Despite the football game going to overtime,
we had plenty of times so we were fine. So so
here's what I would like from the audience today. Well,
we always would like if you would subscribe to the
show on YouTube, on iTunes, on Spotify, all of that.
If you want to throw us a like or a rating,
that's great as well, but special for today. Have the

(01:54):
questions be for the end of the show, for demands
about being new Dad, questioned, device comments, whatever that is,
whatever you guys want, So we will do that at
the end of the show start. I thought about leading
the show with it because a couple of weeks ago,
after the Chiefs suffered that devastating loss to Denver, I

(02:18):
didn't lead the show with the Chiefs any day that week.
I talked to the NBA, I talked to other things.
I'm not going to do that again. That made the
audience quite angry, understandably, but it's just a decision I
made it, So we will. We will do that on
the back end of the show. We will start with
the Chiefs today. But before we do that, let's bring

(02:39):
you straight to voicemail, brought to you by boost Mobile.
Clay has named his boat after Megan the Stallion. Now
I am not a nautical expert, but I do believe
changing the name of your boat is considered very bad luck.
So this is this is you know, close to getting

(02:59):
her new tatted like. This is a big move by Clay,
and I'm sure he knows that. So good for him,
happy for him. We got to watch Clay play Friday
night in La Aaron Rodgers turns forty two and looks
like it. And Demonse had to finally pay off his
bet from the Chiefs Ravens games. Oh those halcyon days
when the Chiefs got their season on the right track

(03:21):
by dog walking your Ravens. How I didn't know things
were gonna turn a few months later? All right, Demonse,
let's get to it. The Chiefs are six and six.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Chiefs are a rough spot. You've always said, with the
combination of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes that they've always
had a shot. But now your Chiefs are six and
six in two games out of the Wildcard, not two
games out of the Arrowhead Invitational.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
With the wildcard, yep.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, they have none of the key tie breakers with
the head to add teams. How we are you at
the state the Chiefs are in right now.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Well, listen, I mean, you've got to be really concerned.
The only way they guarantee themselves a spot in the
playoffs is by winning out, and I am listen, some
folks are it is not a mathematical certainty that winning
out gets them in, but winning out gets them in,

(04:17):
and so they they are alive. And the AFC to
me does feel as wide open as it has at
any point in my life, maybe since eight, the year
Brady went down with an injury, and it wasn't a

(04:39):
great Peyton Manning year, and so certainly the most wide
open it's been in more than a decade. So if
they were to get hot, play their best football, get in,
I think that they would be immediately the Vegas favorites
to win the conference. The problem is getting in is

(05:02):
going to be very difficult because of those tiebreakers they
don't have that you mentioned. Now. If they were to
beat Houston and then the Chargers, which are their next two,
then maybe they could lose to Denver and sneak in

(05:25):
at ten and seven because they would have a tiebreaker
over the Colts, tiebreaker over the Ravens, which won't matter,
and a tiebreaker over Houston. Maybe there would be a
path there, but the only certain path is winning out
and right now it is very difficult to trust this team.

(05:50):
Even though Patricks had at least a five game winning
streak every year of his career, it is very difficult
to trust this team to win five straight because quite simply,
they can't get off the field. And this was a
problem in Week one against the Chargers, it was a

(06:12):
problem against Josh Allen, it was a problem against bow Knicks,
and it was a huge problem against Dak Prescott and
the Dallas Cowboys, where historically what the Chiefs defense would
do really well is one good run stop on a

(06:39):
drive to put you in second and nine, one forced
in completion to put you in third and nine, and
then dial something up to get you off the field.
All game long and all season long, this team has

(07:03):
been forcing third and longs and then been totally unable
to get off the field. And that is why despite
Patrick playing at the level that he is, and he
was brilliant on Thursday, and he's currently he's third in

(07:26):
the league in yards, fourth in the league in touchdowns,
for second in the league in QBR. The ESPN stat
first in the league. In the nerd stat that I
don't love Epa. He's having an awesome year, but poorly

(07:47):
time turnovers by the Chiefs in previous games, and the
total inability all season long aside from the Colts fourth
quarter against the Colts to make impact plays on defense
might wreck the season. They are right now the fourth

(08:10):
worst third and long defense in the league. They have
the fourth fewest sacks in the league. They have the
sixth fewest force turnovers in the league, and that's why

(08:31):
they find themselves in this position.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
With all that said, do you think that there was
a move that they could have made during the.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
During trade deadline during the trade deadline to change that?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, I mean, listen, the Eagles picked up Jalen Phillips.
They could like he's the only real impact pass rusher
they're not. They weren't gonna trade for Quinn Williams when
you have Chris Jones like and at the trade deadline,
people wanted them to go after a running back and they,
by the way, they almost did trade for Breeze Hall.
But I don't they need more from the Listen, they

(09:07):
paid George Carlofts this offseason. They have drafted ed rushers,
they're just it's it's Chris Jones or nothing on getting
to the quarterback. And that's a problem. And now you
have this game against Houston Demonse where Josh Simmons, who's
been an a plus as a rookie left tackle when

(09:31):
he's been out there, he missed that month with the
family issue, he suffered such an unlucky fluke freak injury
that I don't know if you saw how he got hurt.
He's blocking. I forget who an ed rusher for Dallas

(09:52):
and the Chiefs running back, I don't know if it
was Hunter Pacheco tried to help him to chip like
where they throw the shoulder and they missed the cowboy
and hit him in the left arm and snapped his wrist.
So his own teammate just kind of friendly fire. And no,

(10:17):
I think it's I think he's out a long. I
think he might be out the rest of the year,
but he's certainly out this weekend and they play, in
my opinion, the best pass rush in the NFL this
weekend in Houston. Juwan Taylor will see if he plays.
They if he's just out, then they should be able

(10:38):
to at least make do because then you have Jalen Moore,
who you sign this offseason. If he is, if he
and Juwan Taylor are out and you have to play
Janya Morris, who they have tried and tried and tried
to make a legitimate NFL tackle and just hasn't worked,

(11:00):
then you're in real, real trouble. And so it is.
It's very precarious. It's the most precarious it's ever been
in Kansas City. There's no getting around that. Now. With

(11:22):
that said, I know myself and I don't think it
will be unreasonable or irrational that if if they win Sunday,
and I'm telling you right now, with that offensive line situation,

(11:44):
Chiefs minus three and a half are not gonna be
one of my picks this week. If they win Sunday,
then I will feel like, all right, beat the Chargers
next week and you're gonna go to another super Bowl.
That's how all feel I will. I feel like they're

(12:05):
a win away from being a win away. If that
makes sense, yeah, sense? And so I I have not
my hope. I've not given up hope or given up belief,
but my confidence has been shaken because it should be,

(12:28):
because they had to have the Broncos game and they lost.
They then really had to have the Colts game, and
it took everything, uh furious fourth quarter, the biggest fourth
quarter comeback of Mahomes' career to win that one. And

(12:50):
then they had the opportunity against Dallas. And that's again
I'm not gonna bang on the defense too much, but
three times this year Demanse the Chiefs have trailed in
the fourth quarter, Mahomes has led a fourth quarter comeback

(13:13):
to take the lead, and then they lost the game anyway.
Three times via Scott Kasmar for context. The third blown
fourth quarter comeback for Tom Brady in his career came

(13:35):
in year fifteen. Year fifteen. Tappened three times this season.
So it's the margins are that thin, and if there
is one game or one moment that to me just

(14:02):
stands out as if they don't go on this run
and if they missed the playoffs by a game that
I'm going to look back to, it will be up
fourteen to nothing against the Jags dominating that game. Trevor

(14:24):
throws a lollipop up in the air. Two Chiefs have
a chance to pick it and basically in the game
in the first quarter, they bump into each other and
it falls to the ground. They kind of laughed and like,
you know, they're dominating the game, and then that led
to a Jags touchdown a couple hours later. Mahomes throws

(14:47):
the one hundred yard pick six. A little bit after that,
after the Chiefs take a late lead, Trevor falls down.
Chris Jones doesn't see it. He runs it in what's
the difference right now between the Chiefs being six and
six and having none of the tie breakers and the
Chiefs being seven and five and having a few of

(15:08):
the tie breakers. So that's that's how thin your Martians are.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
You're saying like they're a win, they're one. There are
two games away. Even if they you're saying that they
could they could also make the Super Bowl if they
do make the Super Bowl. Or are you still like
scared of those defensive problems with getting off the field.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Scared of Listen? Of course, listen, I don't think that
is those are going to go away. What I what
I do think is they have they are better than
a six and six record, and the AFC is wide open.

(15:50):
And if like again I have to.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Say, you're expecting some teams to slip.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I'm expecting to a couple things. One is I if
they make the playoffs, it will mean they're on a
five game winning streak and playing their best football of
the year. So I will then, of course, you know,
believe that they can get through this version of the AFC.

(16:18):
And then to answer your hypothetical, if they were to
then make the Super Bowl, they'd be on an eight
game winning streak, and I of course would feel like
those things are solid. It's also and this is an excuses,
this's just reality. It's an unlucky year to potentially be

(16:39):
a ten win team. Since they expanded the playoffs in
twenty twenty, so we have five years of it. Zero
eleven win teams have ever missed the playoffs. Only two
in five years, ten win teams have missed the playoffs,
and eight teams and this isn't by winning a bad division.

(17:03):
This is wild card teams. Eight teams with eight or
nine wins have gotten a playoff spot. So if it
were just you know, the but this year, it's not that.
This year the AFC is wide open, but the there's

(17:25):
not really a middle class. It's teams that are gonna
win nine, ten to eleven and then teams that are
awful with really no is not a glut of seven
or eight win teams, it doesn't look like, and that's
gonna make getting into the tournament really hard. With that said,

(17:49):
the all of this is predicated on, obviously, the Chiefs
winning this weekend. So if they win this weekend, they
have the same record as Houston with the tiebreaker right,
so that moves them ahead of Houston. They still would
need to jump two more teams. Will they play the Chargers,

(18:14):
who they're two behind, But the Chargers schedule is the
hardest in football by a mile. Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans, Broncos,
and Justin Herbert has a broken left hand. So again,
if you're assuming Chiefs can win the next two, that

(18:39):
puts them in really good position versus the Chargers and
the Texans, and then you just need one of Actually,
you know, that would do it, wouldn't it? That would
do it because the Steelers and Ravens take care of themselves,
so that would do it. Now, with all that said,

(19:00):
I actually think the team most likely to full on
fall apart is the Colts. I think the Colts are
mid fall apart already, and Demon's. If they lose to
the Jaguars this weekend, they might not win again. They've

(19:23):
already lost three of their last four. Their one win
was in overtime against Atlanta, and their final five are
at Jacksonville, at Seattle, home for the Niners, home for
the Jags at Houston, and Sauce Gardner is going to
be out so the Colts. Daniel Jones has a fracture

(19:45):
in his leg, Sauce is out, Jonathan Taylor has slowed down.
So the team ahead of the Chiefs most likely in
my opinion, to just fall off is Indy, And so
that's the the path for the Chiefs to make it

(20:07):
at ten and seven, is Indy falls apart and the
Chargers fall apart, and then the Jags, Texans, one team
from the AFC North Bill's, Patriots, Broncos, Chiefs Gin It

(20:28):
so like that's the that would be the route, that's
the path, But that's a pretty The only way to
be sure they get in is win all five, and
they have not yet looked like a team that's ready
to go on a five game winning streak. It's the
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winner of Chiefs Cowboys be the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
There's six' five and, one And dak has said that
he's not sure he's ever been more confident in a
team going Into december with the athletic playoff predictor only
gives them twenty four percent chance to make the, playoffs
but they have a soft dish into their. Schedule how
are you feeling about The cowboys right.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Now SO i Think i'm not trying to hedge, here
but this is WHAT i truly. BELIEVE i believe that
they right now are one of the best teams in
the league because that offense has been. Great, yeah and

(23:16):
the defense has been. FINE i don't think defense has been,
great but it's been. Fine and with a great, offense
you just need a fine, defense which since the addition
Of Quentin williams and getting some other guys back, healthy they've.
HAD i also think it's not gonna. Matter so like,
THERE i would not want to Play, dallas BUT i

(23:38):
don't think they're gonna be able to catch the teams
in front of. Them, okay so the here is here's
The cowboys have a math, problem and the mass probley
For dallas is the who is going to collapse in THE. Nfc,

(24:02):
Now dallas also Like Kansas, city if they went, out
they are likely to make, it but not guaranteed to make,
it but likely to make. It if they went, out,
well hold, on let me let me say. That so
The cowboys are six five and, one so if they went,

(24:24):
out they would get in over all of the eleven
win teams because they'd be eleven five and. One so,
no if they went, out they're also. IN i, MEAN
i to use your athletic playoff. Predictor they don't give
them one hundred, percent you're greater than ninety nine, percent

(24:44):
but they would be. In and your point about the
schedule is that after they're In, detroit the only good
team they play the remainder of the way is The.
Chargers BUT i have kind of a triple layer concern For.

(25:04):
Dallas one is one loss dooms, Them, yeah dooms them
because and this is WHY i was trying to get,
there and THEN i kind of stumbled on. Myself unless
you Believe philly is going to, collapse then Catching detroit

(25:28):
is meaningless Because detroit is not currently in the. Playoffs
you've got three from THE Nfc, west one from The,
south and by the, way another team from The south In,
carolina ahead Of. Dallas, alright basically de facto tied With,
DALLAS i guess not Ahead carolina seven and six versus

(25:50):
six five and, one and then two we would assume
from THE Nfc north right now and The bears And.
Packers if you Beat, detroit you'd still be staring at
being the eighth team when seven get. IN i, ALSO

(26:12):
i don't Think dallas is going to win On thursday.
Night they went On thursday. Night and by the, way
this is always demands the Best thursday night game of
the year when we get The thursday After thanksgiving two
teams that played On, thanksgiving because it's A thursday night

(26:35):
game when people are fully, rested which we never. Get
so this IS i, mean this is as good of
A thursday night game as there is because of the
massive playoff implications and because both teams are as rested
as they are And detroit is dealing with. INJURIES i we, are,

(26:58):
though just a few weeks removed from This cowboys team
that right now is playing, great there's no denying, it
and they were awesome ON dak was unbelievable On thursday from.
Right let me get that in a. Second let me

(27:19):
get back in the. Second but the we're not that
far removed from The cowboys getting blown out by A
broncos team, that while it, wins doesn't blow anyone out
and then getting beat soundly by The. Cardinals so is
that team going to win eight in a row or
are they going to trip up either At detroit OR

(27:43):
i can't imagine they would lose to The, vikings but
home against The chargers or then the sneaky tough game
at The commanders Where jaden will be, back and then
there's even at your final two games are road divisional

(28:04):
games against teams that will just want to play. SPOILER
i just think it will be a hair. SHORT i
do think if they were to get, in this is
as dangerous of A cowboys team as we've had really

(28:26):
Since dak's been. THERE i think that offense has been that,
good And, dak to your point, Earlier dak is having
The Joe burrow season from a year, ago And Joe
burrow got plenty OF mvp buzz in that nobody thought
he was gonna win, it but that he deserved a
spot on the. Ballot that to me is Where dak

(28:47):
is right. NOW i Understand Drake mays The vegas favorite
after last, night and it was awesome last, night BUT
i think It's stafford Won Drake may, two and then
you can start having a real. Conversation anybody that disagrees with,
THAT i think has to feel like It's Drake may,
One stafford, two and then you have the real and

(29:09):
then you have a conversation like those two guys have
to be your top TWO mvp. Candidates but it IS
i wouldn't want to see The cowboys on my. SCHEDULE

(29:30):
i don't think they're going to run the, table which
is what they have to do and to NOW i
guess there is the hope for. Them there's two THERE'S
i guess two paths other than running the. Table one

(29:53):
of them is a full On philadelphia, collapse A lah twenty,
twenty and we'll get to The eagles. Shortly the other
one is do The bears fall. APART i don't see that,

(30:14):
happening but The bears do have a tough remainder of
The you, know they have two games against The, packers
a game against The, niners a game against The, lions
and the game against The. Browns, like do The bears
go two and? No because two and? Three two and

(30:36):
three would still get The bears to, Eleven so The
cowboys would still have to win out to jump. Them
SO i, mean are The bears gonna go one in?
FOUR i don't think. So so, again it just becomes
very difficult For dallas barring winning out the do we

(30:57):
think any the The niners to me have earned the
benefit of the. Doubt and, again The niners already have nine.
Wins they have they have A titans game as their next,
one so they have ten. Wins so Then, Colts, Bears
seahawks for The, niners are they gonna find a way

(31:21):
to win at least one of? Those if, so they're at.
Eleven the so's gonna be a bunch of eleven win.
Teams and just keep in mind The cowboys can only
get to eleven by winning. Out seattle still has at
The falcons home for The colts at The. Panthers Is

(31:43):
seattle only gonna win? ONE i don't think, so AND
i Think seattle's really. Good so it just becomes The
packers are playing their best football of the year right.
Now The packers still have a game left against The.
Vikings packers tough schedule two against The, Bears, Broncos. Ravens

(32:08):
SO i guess if You're, dallas what you really hope
happens is The bears or The packers sweep the other
one like that would be really good for. You if
one of those teams, can what if they, Split you're
just sow up against. It and then There's philly that

(32:30):
you have five and a half, losses they have. Four
so again the question is if anybody gets to eleven,
wins they have priority over The. Cowboys unless The cowboys went,
Out philly's got at The chargers home for The, RAIDERS
i don't care what type of funk, There and that's a.

(32:51):
Win Two commanders games left and they and also at The.
Bills so Could philly go from eight and two to
ten and seven And dallas steal it from him at
ten six and, one it's. POSSIBLE i don't think it's

(33:12):
likely That billy defense going up against That charger offensive
line this, weekend With herbert coming off, surgery that just
feels like A philly. Win and then they're at nine
and they only need two. MORE i don't. Know well
The raiders, game they're at, Ten, like Is philly gonna
go zero to three down the stretch to miss? Out

(33:33):
that would be that would Cost sirianni's.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Job, shooting so internal issues right, Now so it's not
totally off the.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Offense you're, Right so The, Cowboys, listen The cowboys aren't,
eliminated but and they are really. Dangerous but, MAN i
think it's gonna be hard for them to find a way.
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game From Black.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Friday So UT's last week in the gambling show That
chicago could Beat philly, outright and they ended up doing,
that and The eagles fans are angry Booing Jalen hurts
in the. Offense what is more shocking to you or
surprising The bears being the one seed Or philly just
kind of not having identity at this.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Point the more shocking thing is The bears being the one.
Seed shout out though To Ben, johnson Because i'd love
to Give caleb all the. Credit caleb's just been. Mediocre
it's the run game and the forcing the, turnovers AND
i don't know how sustainable the turnovers, are but that's
what's gotten them. There the more shocking thing Is. Chicago

(35:54):
the more noteworthy thing Is. Philly and this is either
on the head coach or the quarterback or both of.
Them but you cannot have an offense that goes three

(36:17):
and out more than any offense in the last decade
in THE. Nfl and this, much this lack of identity
with this much talent on the, offense and it is
just inexplicable to, Me demanse that they can't figure out

(36:40):
a way for Aj brown to have a good game
and for them to. Win it's like it's one or the,
other and that should not be the. Case it's like
they can win if he is an, afterthought or he
can have these monster games and they. LOSE i don't
understand why that. IS i do not Think jalen is

(37:01):
playing very. Well And i've never Believed siriani is as
impressive as his record. Is AND i, listen, Man Howie.
Roseman i've said this For i'll say it. Again Howie
roseman has fired better coaches Than Nick. Sirianni AND i
know they're the defending Super bowl, champs AND i know

(37:23):
that sounds. Ridiculous If philly collapses, Again i'd be very
nervous IF i Weer. Siriani and, again what do you
mean at?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
ALL i mean nothing about, It like all the weapons you,
have the defense is.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Good what is going on.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Right's been, bad but you've got to be able to overcome.
That AND i if You're philly losing the way you
did just Having chicago run it down your throat right

(38:04):
after you blew a twenty one point lead To. Dallas that's.
Unforgivable and when we talk about Like phillies best moments this,
year you gotta go back To, september the comeback against The,

(38:27):
rams the win against The. Chiefs other than, that it's
been a whole lot of. Nothing you blew out The,
giants you had an ugly ten to, seven went over The,
packers a uglier win over The lions sixteen to. Nine

(38:59):
you just haven't looked and you haven't been dealing with devastating.
Injuries SO i DON'T i don't know what to tell
you on this. One if you're An eagles. Fan other
Than eagles, fans we are, United Grand, Opening grand closing

(39:27):
one night, only Next Monday. Night IF i ever needed
a team to snap out of a, funk it's The
eagles On monday at The. Chargers for do me a.
Solid give The chargers their fifth loss so The chiefs
can play them a week. Later give them their sixth,

(39:49):
loss and be right back in the. Mix like it's
gonna be a really weird feeling rooting for The, Eagles
But that's What i'm gonna be. Doing But it's. Real
it is really unforgivable for a. Team it's the most

(40:11):
expensive offense in the history of professional, football and they
just look. Directionless and we can Blame Kevin, patoula the offensive,
coordinator but Either hurts Or sirianni have to figure out
how to fix. It they're the you, know it's the
highest paid, player it's the head. Coach you gotta figure it.
Out all, Right let's talk a little college football if we.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Can, yeah, so big story in college. Football Lane kiffin's
now going TO. Lsu you wanted to talk about, this
but not as like a college football, story but more
a more of a media.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Story so the, floor, Y, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
So there is. Something here's a little parental you, know
to tie in demons being a new. Parent here's something
you don't have to worry about this for a very long, time.
Demanse but this IS i take this with you some parental, wisdom,

(41:08):
okay because this to me has applied mostly particularly with my,
daughters more so with you than with, you and really
the most With, deanna our, youngest which is you give them,
options both of which are things they. Want it's not,

(41:31):
like you, know be. Cliche each your vegetables are clean your.
Room it's two things that they would want to do, independently, Like,
oh you can go to the mall with mommy or
you can go hang out With. Nana it's your. Choice
and then they seem no matter what they choose, to

(41:59):
instead of being be excited about what they're going to
get to, do sad about the thing they're not. Doing
and one of the things That i've said to your
little sister a bunch is YOU'RE i don't want to be,
harsh but you're, like you're not allowed to be sad
about the choice if you're the one that's making the,

(42:19):
choice like you, are you have two. Options they're both
good options whichever no matter how much uh wistfulness you
might feel about not being able to do the, other
you must feel like you're gonna get more joy from

(42:40):
doing the one you're. Choosing that's why you're choosing, It.
Okay so like when when you have two really good
options in front of you and you are the one
who's making the, choice sadness should not be associated with
it because you. Are if it really is making that,

(43:00):
sad then pick the other, one like you're making the.
Choice that is a lesson that more, adults most notably
in this, Case Lane kiffen and some of his apologists

(43:24):
in the media never. Learned Lane kiffen had two great.
Options stay At Ole, miss coach this team through The
College Football, playoff get a sick, raise get an even better,

(43:46):
contract and be a legend In. Oxford or Leave Ole
miss go to RIVAL, lsu get an even sicker contract
for a more prestigious, program and have an opportunity to

(44:07):
create a historic, legacy while knowing that will mean abandoning
your team on the precipice of the biggest games it's
played in program. History please do not cry these alligator

(44:29):
tears about how sad you are or how tough this.
Was you chose to. Leave that is your. Prerogative you
are absolutely allowed to do. That but if it if
it's that devastating of a, choice then. Choose you should

(44:52):
have chose to, stay and you had to know there
was a very, realistic overwhelmingly likely possibility that if you
chose to, leave they were not going to let you
coach the. Playoff you chose it. Anyway, again the ridiculous

(45:16):
lawless college football world allows these things to happen in
a way they could never happen in pro. Sports you could,
never like could never if last, year before THE afc playoffs,
started The bills couldn't have, Said, Hey Andy, reid we'll

(45:39):
give you thirty million a year to Leave Kansas city
and come to us, immediately even If andy wanted. To
they're not allowed to because there's a governing body in
place that doesn't exist in college. Football so this is
allowed to, happen and given made his, choice so be,
It salu good. LUCK i think it screws over the

(46:01):
players a, bit but even though they're young, people they
kind of know the. Business they're in college. Football it's
the Wild. West. Fine so that's my take On. Kiffin
my take on the commentary surrounding it, Is, Listen i'm
not into all everybody's Like Jimmy, sexton you, know has

(46:25):
all these, coaches he's the. Agent that actually is, True
but then there's a lot of And Jimmy sexton works FOR,
cia AND cia represents these media personalities and so they're conflicted.
OUT i, LISTEN i used to be repped BY. Cia
that that bag demand's that you carry some of your

(46:48):
electronics in as A cia sports. Bag i'm no longer
repped BY. Cia people throw a lot of like. EIGHT
i don't think people totally understand how the agent stuff
works like. People people seem to think folks in the
media work for their, agents when we are the ones

(47:11):
who pay the, agents like the agents work for. Us
So i'm not gonna get into the agent part of,
it BECAUSE i think that is a red. Hearing here's
what's not a red hearing the amount of otherwise smart
people blaming a grownups decision on an inanimate. Object this

(47:37):
object is the. Calendar, oh it's the calendar's. Fault the
college football calendar is just fucked everybody. Here that's the.
Issue you can't. Blame, oh of Course lane's is gonna
take the best job and it's The is the college

(47:58):
football calendar a? Mess? Sure does that mean we remove
agency from choices adults make like? To, again this is
not a perfect, example But i've, talked you, know somewhat

(48:21):
about how one of my CAREER i don't even want
to call it bucket, list but Things i'd really like
to do but Doubt i'll ever be able to do
it is be a part of An olympics. Broadcast, Right,
so the Winter olympics are around the, corner AND, i,

(48:42):
AGAIN i have a real, contract not these weird college football,
contracts SO i couldn't even do. This but just stick
with me for a. Moment let's say The chiefs do
go on a sick run and make the, playoffs and
then let's say they Are we're staring at a divisional

(49:02):
round Of Chiefs ravens and then potentially a conference championship
round Of Chiefs. Patriots like the First Things first, Bonanza
and in the week of that divisional, ROUND nbc calls

(49:23):
me up and they're, Like, nick we want you to
come To. Milan we want you to come be a
part of Our Winter olympics, Broadcast but obviously you'd have
to be done with first things first immediately IF i

(49:44):
said yes to, that and Then wilds And brew were understandably.
Upset but then people were, like, well you can't Blame,
nick it's this stupid, Calendar like why the why do
The Winter olympics have to you, know overlap with THE nfl,
Playoffs like if only it were three weeks, later it'd be. Fine, no,

(50:10):
yes it would a lot of things in life would
be easier and maybe better if we had them planned,
out like THE i talk about all the, time THE
Us Open Men's final being on the First sunday OF nfl.
FOOTBALL i hate that it's the. Calendar change it, fine but,
again choices adults, make weighing all their, options they must

(50:38):
be accountable for. Them and certainly we're not gonna blame
dates like it's just so the and the amount of
water carrying That i've heard over the last week from
folks that simply it's LIKE i like the too, long

(50:59):
didn't read version is EITHER i Like Lane, kiffen Or
Lane kiffen is a source Or lane kipping and eye
of mutual business. Interests whatever it, is it's just. Embarrassing
and AGAIN i don't even kill him for the. DECISION

(51:22):
i think there's pros and cons of. DECISION i happen
to think he made the way riskier. Decision he could
have been a legend At Ole miss for the next twenty,
years but it's not what he wanted to. Do so you,
know the contract allows for. It, fine and.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
But almost Like Miles garrett with the contract that he
accepted and like you, say, Yes i'm tired of. Losing
and then he got the money and he stayed.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yes and then by the, way no problem with. It,
yeah But i'm not going to feel badly, Afterwards and
so THE i DON'T i don't, know, MAN i there
is some there's a level of shamelessness in some of
the coverage of these things THAT I I i.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Find it's not acknowledging the fact that.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Left she made a. Decision it screws over The Old
miss kids a. Bit he knew, it he was okay with.
It we don't need to pretend He we don't need
to pretend it was deeper Than Lane kiffen did what
he thought was the best For Lane kiffen and was

(52:40):
able to the he he would have been more sad
about missing out on the opportunity to COACH lsu than
he is sad about leaving the kids At All miss
and missing out on the opportunity to coaching the college football.

(53:06):
Playoffs it's as simple as, that all, Right let's go
to THE nba.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Quick all the gold Standard Western conference teams BESIDES okc
played last night and they. Lost what's happened in THE
nba since we've, last since we've?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Last The laker, Also BRON i told you, Guys bron's
double digit streak is gonna be on life support all.
Year last, night down twenty in the, fourth he's sitting on.
Seven he's sitting on seven, points hits a three and
then checks. Out but, uh The lakers have been playing really.

(53:44):
Well they looked awesome in the game we were at
and For, Lakers, Rockets, nuggets all of whom lost last.
Night there is one goal for this regular. Season don't
be the four, seed be the. Two AVOID okac as
long as possible and see what. Happens like so, there

(54:06):
these games really do matter in that. Regard but here's
this is this is not going to Be I'M i
try to never do this ON. Tv something THAT i
think is not GREAT tv, content BUT i know will
do well on the internet BECAUSE i think it is
selfish because THE tv show Like, fox is paying me for.

(54:32):
It wild and brew are we're all. PARTNERS i have
a little more leeway on that here BECAUSE i own.
It demons AND i are. Partners he's you, know if
it goes viral or, whatever it's good for both of
us in that. Regard So i'm telling you right, now
just to the people watching on YouTube or, LISTENING i

(54:53):
am doing this For, Instagram, Okay i'm just letting you guys,
know or For twitter or. Whatever jannis had a press
conference a few days ago where he said that he

(55:14):
thinks they might be sitting there in four or five,
years and he is the NBA's all time leading. Scorer
AND i Love. Jiannis everybody Loves, giannis And i'm not
here to Kill jannis for that because he either was

(55:38):
joking or was, confused but it does give me an
opportunity to remind the audience what that would actually, take
what that would actually, take because, again it's a regular season,
record so we don't Even lebron doesn't even, have of,

(56:00):
course get credit for being the all time playoff leading
scorer by a. Mile but it should be noted That
jannis is literally demanse not halfway. There, okay he's. It
he just got to twenty one. Thousand lebron is at

(56:20):
forty two thousand and. Change so just a very quick
math lesson on what it would take For yannis to
become the NBA's all time leading scorer in five. Years
here's what it would. Take it would Take lebron retiring.

(56:43):
Today let's just say he's, done but his number is.
Frozen yannis then would have to over five. Seasons what
do we think a fair number is demand he plays
eighty games a year to make it, simple, okay so
eighty times, five that's pretty. Simple that's four. Hundred, okay

(57:08):
he's twenty one thousand point. Shy let's call it twenty,
thousand just for simplicity to see for if you were
to come just. Close so what Would giannis have to
do over five? Years and the answer is play eighty
games all five years and average a very reasonable fifty

(57:30):
points a. Game and if he did, that he would
find himself just fourteen, fifteen one hundred point. Shy that's
all he's got to. Do so if we don't Think
yannis is going to average fifty a game, fifty we can,

(57:52):
though say all, right how. Many let's just say he
averages thirty a, game which that seems reasonable right his.
Career his career number is twenty, four but he's averaged
thirty on the nose each of the last three. Years
he's a thirty point a game. Guy, again the math

(58:16):
on this is quite. Simple twenty one thousand points would
not get him, there but he'd be just a few hundred.
Shy If lebron again never scores. Again so if you
average thirty a game demonse and you need twenty one,
thousand let's figure that. Out twenty one thousand divided by

(58:40):
thirty is seven. Hundred so what would that be at
eighty games a? Season so If yannis plays eighty games
a year for the next nine years and averages thirty
points per game and each and every, year he'll almost

(59:05):
have the scoring record If lebron never scores, again which
is to, say no one is ever approaching the. Number
it's not it's not, hyperbole it's not, well you don't
know it is you have to somehow be the youngest

(59:30):
guy to do, everything and the oldest guy to do,
everything and literally play longer than anyone, has and be
the most durable player ever to do. It just one
last small piece of context for, it just BECAUSE i
don't think people fully understand. It if you took let

(59:54):
me find a good a good trio of like guys
at different phases of their. Career who's a good Young
where do we think he is? AT i was gonna
Say Jalen, brunson but he's been in the league a long.
Time But i'm gonna check it real, quick and then
we can move on because this might be interesting for

(01:00:15):
people love. It Tyrese maxie is a great. Example if
you said To, Yannis, yannis here's the. Deal it's not
fair to ask you to Catch, bron but you're gonna
get credit for all of your points twenty one, thousand

(01:00:37):
all Of kawhi's points fifteen, thousand and all Of Tyrese
maxey's points six, thousand they'd almost be. There all all put,
together you'd almost be. There so, Again i'm a honest.
Guy he's an underdog to get To, again it's taken

(01:01:01):
him thirteen years to get to twenty one. Thousand he's
an underdog to get to thirty two, thousand much less
forty two. THOUSAND i just felt the need to stop. Dreaming.
Yo that's, well, LISTEN i Like, giannis but give me a.
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The Boost unlimited. Plan all, right one of our favorite
things every year to monsay is talking about who's actually
gonna get in The hall Of, fame because it's one
of my favorite. Things we're gonna do it in full On.
Thursday but here's why this year's class is so. Special
you have two guaranteed first ballot guys In breeze And Larry.

(01:02:18):
Fitzgerald the guys who it's first time on the ballot
Are Breeze Rivers Frank, Gore Fitzgerald. Witten breeze And fitzgerald
are guaranteed first, ballot which means there are Five there
are five Spots, Breeze fitzgerald, locks so three of the

(01:02:43):
following get In Eli Rivers Frank, Gore Fred, Taylor Tory,
Holt Steve, Smith, Hines Ward, Reggie, Wayne, Jason, Witten Adam, Vinent,
Terry Willie, Anderson Lomas, Brown Jarry, Evans Richmond, Webb Steve,
Wisnowski Marshall, Yonda Robert, Mathis vince Will, Fork Kevin, Williams Luke,

(01:03:09):
Keikley Terrell, Suggs Rodney, Harrison Earl, Thomas Darren. Woodson it's
an unbelievably difficult class to get, in and a bunch
of guys that were finalists last year are gonna be waiting.
Again all. RIGHT a reminder to you guys to any

(01:03:32):
questions or common chef For demons about being a new.
Dad put him in the. Chat i'm gonna quickly go
over the games we didn't get. To packers beat The.
Lions micah was. Unbelievable Jordan love played as well as
he can. Play that's The packer team that looks like
it can win A Super. Bowl we've only seen him
twice all, year both times when they played The. Lions

(01:03:54):
but that team is. Dangerous bengals beat The. Ravens something's
wrong With lamar and can't just be THE i, mean
it can't just be that his toe's. Hurt like he's
got to be, better and it is The The ravens
are six and, six but in such a different six

(01:04:15):
and six position than The chiefs because of that. Division
but they're not in a different position in this. Regard
they just making the playoffs and losing is means nothing to,
them and so they they've got to play better and
hardball should be getting. Nervous, Meanwhile Joe, burrow, uh you,

(01:04:35):
know looked. Good welcome Back Joe, burrow and it's glad
to have him. Back And i'm glad he's. Playing panthers
beat The. Rams stafford's heater finally cools. OFF i still
think he's THE mvp through thirteen, weeks but now it's really,
close and The panthers sticking, around sticking, around make it
gonna make the, bucks you, know earn. It dolphins beat

(01:04:57):
The saints in a game that almost had an all
time collapse and also had one of my favorite. Plays
it's super, rare the rare two point conversion pick. Six
that's a pick two that ended up being super important
because it not only stopped The saints from tying the,
game but then gave The dolphins a four point, lead
and The saints got the two point or the on side,

(01:05:18):
Kick so the fact that they needed a touchdown and
not a field goal really. Mattered texans meet The colts
twenty to. SIXTEEN i talked about this, earlier the culture falling.
Apart i'd be on highlert If i'm The colts and
The texans are, scary but it might be too, little too.
Late niners defeated The browns twenty six to. Eight party played,

(01:05:39):
well some questionable game manager By. Stefanski shador was. Fine
shador is gonna have plenty of time to prove. Himself i'm,
skeptical but he was. Fine jets meat The falcons twenty
seven to twenty four remindered. Everyone The falcons send their
first round pick to The. Rams The falcons send their

(01:05:59):
first round pick to The. Rams jags beat The titans
twenty five to three and. One That titans team is
one of the worst teams of the last, decade maybe the.
Worst they're just. Bad deanna was watching with Me. Demansey
she asked, me if guys on The Titan she's, like

(01:06:21):
can someone be LIKE i just don't want to play
for you? Anymore AND i said to, HER i was, like,
well if you're a really good, player you can kind
of demand a. Trade and, oh, yeah that was. Different
that's just he's all and just wants out feeling by the,
way who was, LIKE i don't want to be on The,
PANTHERS i want to play in a meaningful. Games goes

(01:06:42):
to The vikings And panthers playing meaningful. Games but When
Dea deanna then said to, Me she's, like will do
the Uh titans have any players good enough to demand a?
Trade like one hell of a. Question the answer is,
One Jeffrey. Simmons they have one really good. Player that's.
It The bucks beat The. Cardinals not a great, game

(01:07:06):
but a needed studying game For baker and The. Bucks
baker playing with the. Shoulder Max brosmer attempted to play
quarterback for The. Vikings The seahawks were not having. It
it's a, reminder here's the. Deal there's about twenty people
alive demons that can PLAY nfl. Quarterback, well there's about

(01:07:29):
another forty to fifty that you can put out there
and make. Do every other human being walking the. Planet
you put them out, there it's just going to be
a cartoon show the whole. Game there's not seventy five
people alive that can play quarterback in THE nfl and

(01:07:50):
not have. It looking is a civilian that's what you're.
Saying he's yes at this, moment he's a. Civilian bill's
beat The steelers twenty six to. Seven josh didn't even.
LISTEN i understand that the media industrial complex is going
to make that game About Josh allen when it was
About James cook the running. Game Like, Josh josh is,

(01:08:10):
awesome he did not play that well in that. Game
And Aaron rodgers scorpion in the frog once. AGAIN i
can't believe you stung me throwing everybody under the. BUS
i now. KNOW i Know Mike williams is no the red.
LINE i Know john News smith cutting an outbreaker on
an inn breaker and guys are missing meetings Thanks aaron
H chargers beat The. Raiders That raiders pick is going

(01:08:33):
to go down and infamy is one of my worst
picks of all. Time The broncos beat The commanders in
ot another close. Call it lucky, win but that's THE i.
Think despite the. Pick the two best Games i've Seen
Drake may play this year Or Drake may sorry Bo
knicks play this year are the last two games good

(01:08:53):
for him and. Them speaking Of Drake, may he was
awesome last. Night The giants are a. Mess Abdul carter's
late for meetings. Again all, right, demons so Ig nogee,
says you, know says nice. Things we appreciate. That, Oh
jeff with a great. Question what sports teams Will mila
be raised to be a fan?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Of, well it would appear That maddie's family seems to
be More browns, Fans but Obviously i'm A ravens. Fan
The CHIEFS i think are pretty big in the. FAMILY
i think It'll i'm Maybe i'll put her in A ravens.
Ones you see what you, know see what she takes
to see How, yeah but, yeah you can't foist The

(01:09:38):
browns on. Her yeah, no she can't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Be she can't be ten years old and be, like
wait a, MINUTE i had an opportunity between The chiefs
and The. BROWNS i live IN la and you picked
The browns at least The. Ravens like there's something there
makes a little bit of. Uh mark, says what's your
favorite part about being a new?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
PARENT i think looking into her eyes honestly and just
being like this responsible for some other other thing or
other thing other. HUMAN i GUESS i should SAY i
just always had. Snakes it's we ramped it up a
little bit with the. Baby it's, yeah it's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Honestly the most real thing is looking into her.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
EYES i think that's my favorite. Part. Matt what's something
easier than you thought it would be and something you
didn't realize beforehand that you do now?

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
EASIER i think sleeping in bed with.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
HER i thought that was going to be super, complicated
but that's actually really easy and we prefer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
IT i think.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Maybe getting her to fall ASLEEP i thought also was
going to be a little bit. Harder but when she
when all the boxes are, checked she's, out you, know
diaper change, full she cold when all those boxes are.
Checked as long as she's not like super gassy or,
nothing it's pretty easy to. Either AND i found a
couple of hacks that work pretty well with getting her
to go to sleep a little bit. Faster like there

(01:11:06):
was one, TIME i guess the first week that she came,
out there was just one night where you, Know maddie
was she was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Exhausted she obviously gave birth a few days.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Ago there was just one NIGHT i was, like, hey
you should trust, Me like you just go to, Sleep
i'm gonna take. HER i got, It da da, da
and she's. Fussing she's. FUSSING i take her over to
the faucet to like get something, ready and she just
starts falling asleep just to the, faucet like without even
the bottle or. ANYTHING i sit there over the faucet
for like five ten. Minutes she, knocks AND i just

(01:11:36):
take her back in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
The room AND i go to. Sleep the sound of the, water.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
LIKE i didn't even need a feed her or, anything
just the sound of the. Water it's like very calming to.
Her but, YEAH i. WAS i was really proud of
myself for finding. That it's, like because you, Know i'm,
Busting i'm rustling through, everything and THEN i look down it's, like,
oh she's not even a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Anymore but but, yeah that was pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
COOL u Corn pop, says my first paternity leave was
the best time in, life just the three of. US
i assume he, means is you know a girl and the? Baby,
yes binged a lot of. Shows are you watching anything?

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Good we have gotten a lot of show time In.
Snowfall we finished. OUT i don't know if, That, yeah
we Finished. Snowfall we've started watching a little bit of The.
Wire can't really get past the first couple of. EPISODES
i think we're like into the second. Episode and then we.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Also finished that show that just came out On netflix Called.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
The beast In.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Me that was that was PRETTY goodod yeah really so.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Yeah, LISTEN i Think The wire is the greatest show.
Ever but it's. Slow but you said you were thinking
about Watching The, sopranos which you definitively should watch and. Get, yeah,
ALSO i.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
WILL i think we'll have a Better we'll be better
off going with that one instead Of The, wire BECAUSE
i don't know how long it takes for The wire
to kick, in BECAUSE i feel Like i've.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Also watched episode, three, right it takes a, while but it's.
Unbelievable but it also it's but if you're already, tired
like the it's maybe not the not the. Show all,
Right we'll do more of these on future shows as
demons like this is the one of the best. Things

(01:13:21):
John lopez my old co and he texts, me congratulations
to you yesterday co host In houston told, me because
he had kids older than my, kids that was totally.
Correct And i'll say to you, now every age is
the best. Age every single age is the, best and

(01:13:44):
just for different, reasons so, like this is super. Fun
and then in a few months when she starts developing
a pieces of a, personality it'll be. Amazing. Yeah and
then a few months after that when she has a real,
personality the whole, thing it'll be. Great what happened for your?
Soul And i'm so glad you're? Back all? Right reminder like,

(01:14:05):
rate subscribe, Review talk to you guys On. Thursday shout
out To volume and To Blue duck and to Hard,
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