FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Playoff Sit/Start Decisions and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1910) - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, friends, and welcome in. This is the Extra Point
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Andrew ericson what's up buddy?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
What's up? Wel semifinals this week? Hopefully we can help
the people point them in the right direction. I wish
we had Derek Brown on the show because we asked
him all the questions because he was number one in
the rankings last week. So we did the bid on
Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Did you ever see it with Chris Farley where he's
interviewing Paul McCart andy. He's like, you remember when you're
on the Beatles? That was awesome, And we just be like, hey, Derek,
remember when you ranked like really good?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
It was awesome? Who'd you rank this week? Do it again?
Who'd you rank? Awesome? You could just do that for
the next two weeks in a row. That would be
cool and awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
It'd be pretty pretty sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
It would be.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Shout out to Debro again number one in the ranks.
I had to send him a text. I know he's
not going to be like, oh, yes, bring it, but he's.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Got to love it a little bit. Give him that love.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
He deserves that love and you guys deserve that love.
And that is why this show is designed around literally
talking to you guys. So we're not just like taking
your questions, which we do do in like the twitch
and the YouTube shows, but we are going to speak
to you. So bring us your non Thursday night football
based fantasy questions for the semifinals, because I know there

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are some big ones hopefully. This is also coming off
of the Ranks episodes that we did that ericson myself
and FITZI did. We will do our best to hook
you up. Let's start talking with the people though. Let's
get right into it. My friends with Bryce Sarah Tops
first up.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
On the show for the semifinals.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
What's up Bryce?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Taking you guys?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Human?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
We got you?

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Man?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Hey, So I have a couple of questions.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
First, I don't Minnesota matchup kind of scares me.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Would you guys roll with Dart or? I can also grab.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Who is the last one you faded? Shuck Shuck is
a pretty popular streamer, and I'm actually down for the streaming,
but not for Dart. I don't I agree with you
on the matchup side, but dart, regardless of proto or not,
he keeps running and he had like sixty plus rushing
yards and he has a lot of equity there. So

(03:20):
I'm personally still going dart, but they are closer in ranks.
I want to say, ECR is like fifteen on dart
and Chuck is maybe twenty ericson what do you think?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yup? That's how I have it too. Darts fifteen and
Schuck is nineteen. So rolling with the dart.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
We're darting it. What's what do you got for?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Two? Thank you?

Speaker 5 (03:39):
So the second one, I've got my first running duck,
but I still need to pick another one on my
FLEs and my choices are doubt Oll, Harvey, Carter and.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
DJ Moore. Was that the last question?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Bryce? Or is there another?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Okay, I'm sorry, Just to bring off the stage there,
I want to say RJ. Harvey? Do you want to
say RJ?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Harvey? Will you roll with me?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Three down? Skill set? I believe you practice in full
on Wednesday's way of injury doesn't seem like it's gonna
be like super impeding to his type of production. And
I just want to put the context behind. Yes, it
is a tough match against the Jaguars, but the Broncos aren't.
They're gonna score points in some way, some form, So

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he gets go on opportunities. He could score a rushing
touchdown and he catches passes, so that doesn't even really
affect him when it comes to the Jaguars being really
tough against running backs as rushers. If he's catching passes
out of the backfield, then it doesn't matter how good
the Jags are at stopping running backs on the ground.
So I think Harvey has the best ceiling floor combination

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of these guys. We talked about that all in the
ranking show. He doesn't have a great match up against
the Bucks, really good against the run.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
And it's like very touchdown equity on undoubted.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yep, And I think that you just who has a
better chance of scoring touchdown this week, Dowdell or Harvey? Right,
I think it's pretty close, maybe even me and Harvey
because he's evolved through all phases. DJ Moore is like,
which one are you going to get right? The one
that again we've seen him two weeks without a Dudes,
say again, Luther Burdon probably not gonna play, so I
think that makes DJ Moore a little bit more viable still, packers,

(05:27):
you know, I would just roll with Harvey.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I would too. DJ Moore is very fluky to me,
not bad options by the way, I could stomach going
with Rico, but r J. Harvey was the he was.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think he's ranked highest too.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think it's like nineteen
why Gamer Premium member of the Fantasy Pros Discord, Sup,
What up, dude?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
We're doing good?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
How you doing good?

Speaker 6 (05:52):
Good? I got I got a few questions. First question
I wanted to ask you guys. This one's pretty pretty small.
I have Higgins on my IR T Higgins, and I
want to pull him back in because I think he started.
I think he could be started. Now my lineup, I
have Jefferson, Evans and John Jennings, and there.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I was wondering, I know where this is going.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Should I sit in any of them for to add
Higgins back? Because I don't think I'm going to start
read Godwin or Pittman this week.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
So here's the real question. He's saying, Do I bench
Justin Jefferson for T Higgins? Justin jeff Me and Bogman
cannot stop fighting about Justin Jefferson. I refuse to stop fighting.
And you know, as he pointed out, I mean, dude,
Erickson Bogman was like he literally copying repeated the last
two weeks of what you said about Jefferson and I

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get it, and he's just like, he's got to do it.
And it's like that's what we've said every single week.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
And it's like j. J.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
McCarthy is incapable of getting the ball to Justin Jefferson.
So I have so little trust in Jefferson. It's not funny.
But you are also looking at a wide receiver that's
dealing in proto right now and is probably even more
susceptible to be knocked out. So what is your take
on it. I'm still kind of be honest with you.

(07:19):
I'm not sure I would lean T Higgins, even though
I love the matchup.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
If T got like a full.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Practice in and everything like that, I think I might.
But Justin Jefferson has a great matchup. He never gets
the ball anywhere. Do you have many combined yards Justin
Jefferson has three weeks combined to guess the number?

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Is it even thirty yards?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Thirty seven yards? Combined the last combined the last three weeks. Yeah, yeah,
you did undershoot it a little bit. So what would
you do to Higgins or Jefferson?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's T Higgins. If he plays, you're playing to Higgins.
He has a dramatically significantly higher ceiling. Look, even when
Carson Wentz was the quarterback for the Vikings and Jefferson
was significantly better because game loss, even when he was
putting up under yard games or scoring touchdowns. I think
he has zero top eight finishes this year.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Zero.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Whereas Joe Burrow, Dude, this is such an obvious blow
up spot for him. Again, get him out of the
cold in Cincinnati, all the bad vibes, everyone's trying to
tell that he doesn't like football anymore. You know what
I like. You know what Joe Burrow likes to do
is throw six touchdowns against the Dolphins or in Florida,
Sunny Florida, nice and warm. I think that he's going

(08:32):
to have a monster game. So I think if T.
Higgins plays, you want him to put him in your
lineup because I think against the Dolphins, I think that
Joe Burrow can do literally whatever, but.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
The scariest fun Yeah, and I agree with that, but
we'll start to have fun. Finally, he remained in kocuntry
protocol today and he.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Doesn't there's a chance he doesn't even play, so and.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Then you have to worry about it exactly. What was
what was your next question?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (08:56):
My next question was because I mean I probably start
Baker Mifel in that area too. And my next question,
I won't ask about tonight's game. But in this league,
I have one Jackson dart Or Brissette and wide receivers.
I have Marvin Harrison Jr. Which I don't know if

(09:17):
he's gonna play, and Davante Williams, which is if he
has well too. I have Shakir Godwin Worthy my long guy,
and Singletary in my line up. So I don't know
if I should.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
In your lineup right now?

Speaker 6 (09:33):
No, no, no, I have them on my bench.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh okay, So what are you asking? You're asking if
like Davante and.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
If Marvin Harrison Gavante don't play, you think I should
pivot to any of the guys. I just make to expect.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I'm pretty sure Javonte is gonna play, so I wouldn't
be worried about it.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, and then what was the in the first part
of the court. I would go Bresett over I'm forgetting
the quarterback, but it was easily Breset to me. Would
you play any of those guys over Marvin, even if
Marvin's active, I would. I might go Godwin over.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Harrison, I probably. I think I'd probably don't want Harrison.
I mean, if he comes back and does what he
did when he came back the first time, I mean
he was he was having a productive game before he
got hurt again. So it's true, it's always the injury
risk with guys coming back from injuries. But I think
you got to keep the context of remember the Cardinals, Falcons,
Drake London, Marvin Harrison junior. These teams have nothing to

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play for. So if the guys are coming back, they're
coming back to play football, right. They're not coming back
to like oh, like you know, you got to get
ramped up for the playoff run. Like the Cardinals Falcons
are not going to the playoffs this year, and coaches
are trying to save their jobs. They're trying to put
good tape out there. So if those guys are active,
I would expect them to be full go at full capacity. Again,
there's always a chance of reinjury, but hey, football, anyone

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can get injured when you step on the field.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
So oh, I'm ambre man Bear nick Nix in the house.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
So hey guys, person of all, just thank you for
a great year of advice and supports us all the semis.
So I have a few questions for you, guys. I'm
going to send them in the chat just in case
you need to reference players that are in it.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Cool.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
The first one, I'm trying to decide for my two
RB spots and a flex spot the half PPR League,
and my options are Henderson, Harvey Tracy, Aaron Jones, and Rico,
and I know a lot of them are back to
back to back to back in people's ranking, So just
curious where you go in that spot.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
First, this is Harvey Henderson and I'm going to play
Aaron Jones in that matchup over Rico. You agree, Erickson, Yep, Okay,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Okay, Well, thank you.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Second one, I know, with the whole Miami situation, there's
a lot of questions around Waller. I'm wondering for tight
end if you'd go Waller, Strange, Shultz, Loveland. Now that
you know the guys are kind of banged up in
the receiving core there or for who I have, but
am very reluctant to start.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I think we're gonna probably disagree here, but I am
Schultz on this one.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Maybe Schultz is my highest rank guy too. Okay, but
he's been like had a solid floor most weeks and
unless we popped off the thing with Waller, and Fitz
made a really good point about this, I think on
the Ranking show where he doesn't play tight end really,
so this kind of matchup we're chasing against the Bengals,
I don't know if it really like is relevant to

(12:32):
Darren Waller because he doesn't line up in line like
a traditional tight end does, and that's where the Bengals
have been just like destroyed by fantasy tight ends. You know,
it's interesting, you know who also doesn't line up a
lot in line? Who bombed against the Bengals last week?
Isa likely Mark Andrews, right, so I know they had
good weeks a couple weeks ago, and a lot of
still because of the game script, the Ravens didn't throw

(12:53):
that much. But that all being said, we're not even
like talking about Darren Waller if He's not facing the
Bengals this week, am I right? Especial Wars as the quarterback,
And I think that maybe we're just looking at tight
end designation by Darren Waller. When you look at his
actual deployment for the Dolphins, he's lining up out wide
or in the slot like a wide receiver. So are

(13:14):
we gun holl about playing the number two wide receiver?
I mean, what if it was Nick west Burkine, like
like movie made Lone Nuts, Like we got to play
this guy with Quinton Ewers as his quarterback against the Bengals.
Probably not. So wall are a pick of a soured on,
just a tad, especially with these other guys. I like
really want to like be in all in an Loveland

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because of the Bears injuries.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
I like him this week, but just not more than Schultz.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Man. Dude, Schultz is always a tough guy because I
feel like he's always in that like back end fantasy territory,
a fantasy tight end one. And I don't know like
how high his ceiling really is unless he scores a touchdown,
but it is the Raiders like Shroud should throw a
decent amount here. So in love that we did say
play the packers, alrighty this year and he had like

(14:00):
like a he was okay, he scored. So I mean,
if you look at my rankings at Shultz, think ECR
has Shultz. So I don't have enough re Again, I'm
gone kind of long winded answer here with this, but
I think it is probably just Shultz.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, they get Shoulter. I know you got a couple more.
Let's burn through these ones.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Yeah, these are these ones are quick. I guess a QB.
I have Dak Burrow and Dart in four point passing,
Wondering who you go with.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Their Burrow for me, okay, we're both Burrow.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
Okay, and then like playing upside, I'm kind of expected
to be down by like ten points or so in projections,
not the projections really mean anything. Wondering if you'd go
Dak or McCarthy just for the upside with matchups being
poor versus very good.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I'd still go Dak because I have zero trust and
JJ McCarthy or do you feel different though, Erickson?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
No, I'm gonna play the guy that Dak.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
Yeah, really really gross, we Estima or Mason if you
had to pick between them.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I love this one. This is great.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I think I might go Mason, if I'm being honest
with you, just because I love the matchup and the usage.
I'm not sure is Estimate gonna get twenty Carrie. I
have no problem going Estimate because he's more of like
the volume play. But like, are you that confident that
is going.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
To get well? You were the remember back to last year, right,
you were the one that rained on everyone's estimate parade.
I just destroyed it and he was terrible. I'm trying
to keep that in mind. I just guess for me,
it's excited about Jordan Mason. I don't know. I feel
like if eSIM did get the work some jets and

(15:42):
it's so bad.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, they've been so bad. I just feel weird about
the work because they brought in like ninety Hindes and
they got hole and stuff like that. I do like that.
I don't know if I had it this year. I
do have a like absolutely just murder ball a running
back every year. I remember it was Carson Steal two
years ago where it was like I smashed every under

(16:04):
on the planet and then I'm murder balled Estimate last year.
I don't know if I had that this year though,
with someone that I was like, this is so hysterically stupid.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I just was stupid.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Likely last year. Maybe it's estimated. Yeah, I need to
get more like intense about the estimate thing that he's
gonna be a failure. Let's go to Sam. I am
it's up, Sam.

Speaker 8 (16:25):
Hey, thanks so much.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
So I'm in a standard league. I'm starting Henderson, but
I need another running back and a flex. So I've
got Javonte Williams, Juwar Jordan, Estimate Hampton, and then Michael
Wilson is my only wide receipt.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's not playing ooh okay, so this is really like Hampton,
Javante and Michael Wilson. And you said this was standard. Yeah, okay,
so we need touchdown equity. Thank you, Sam. I. I'm
going to first defer to you. You go first.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I mean, she only needed two, right, she needed.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Like a running back and a flex. She did only
need to it is probably Hampton and Javant.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Okay, but but but.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
But Michael Wilson is like seven in ECR this week.
That equation is definitely quite a bit better than like,
you know, a sixteen seventeen running back or whatever. But
then we then we have to pull it back to
like touchdown equity, and that's what that's what does make
it tough. I'm really torn on this because I think
Michael Wilson's touchdown potential against the Falcons when you know

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that Brissette is going to throw it four thousand times
like it's pretty high up there. I mean this, this
decision is made for you. If Javante does not play,
oh it was, it made for you.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
If Marvin Harrison plays, and right now it looks like
he's leaning towards playing.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
So yeah, it's against he catches.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
One of the gods, he catches a touchdown with Marvin
Harrison Junior also in the lineup. Not great, all right?

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, I mean the two running backs is safer in
standard touchdown equity. There you got some good options, by
the way, you got pretty sweet. I'm down with that,
Sam Bovava.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
Guys, I put these in the chat too. But in
one league, I've got Shakir as my third wide receiver,
and then for a tight end and a flex spot
in PPR, I've got Kittle, Waller and Pits. So if
London plays, I put him in over Shakir, and then

(18:33):
would you do Waller over Pits in that scenario, would
you still go with Pits.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Both Falcons for me?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, yeah, I'm pretty anti like Waller in general. It's
like heavy just only touched on equity and you, I
don't know what the hell you vers is going to be.
And I do assume London is going to play, and
I am ranking him as such. All right, number two two?

Speaker 9 (18:53):
So I have three wide receiver spots in a PPR
semi and I've got it, they're all like in the
same bucket ish for me. Right, So Michael Wilson only
if Marv sits, McConkey London, Mike Evans, Ted, and DeVonta
Smith's damn props.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Dude, Yeah, I mean I think assuming health, London, Evans,
and Michael Wilson are I like locks into this? What
do you think, ericson? You feel you're feeling a little
lad against Dallas over Michael Wilson or a little tetaroa.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, I Marvin Heer's junior plays I would do, lad.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
You really think Michael Wilson's gonna get hit that hard
if Marvin is back?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I hate that, yeah, because it already happened, like like
it'd be different if we didn't see it happen already,
but it did, so I'm not trying to overthink it
where oh well, no this week, it's not gonna happen
when we saw it. We have a pretty large sample
size of Marvin Harrison Junior. When he's on the field,
Michael Wilson doesn't get targeted. And it seems like preposterous

(19:58):
considering how good Michael Wilson has been and how many
targets he sees. But it's just not the way this
offense is operated when both guys have been on the field.
Michael Wilson has been a ghost when Robin Harrison Junior
has been active. So if he's back, just Michael Wilson
is a low confidence play for man.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Ford and you went Maconkey over Teto.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Terror is injured right now, so we've gotta see if
he's even gonna play.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
But if he's in, if he's in over okay, he
is injured.

Speaker 9 (20:27):
Okay, and then that same league, right, So I got
I got Allan and Burrow a Q based I I'm
favored to win. I got good receivers. I got James
Cook at RB one, RB two. It's bad I have
Montgomery McCroskey, Merritt and estimate, and I was leaning estimate.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
It ain't Bill.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I'll tell you that it ain't Bill. I lean Montgomery.
Maybe I will just lean into hating estimate this week
ericson what do you think es to may Or Montgomery?
I like, it's to may all right, I mean he
is he is theoretical starter. Yeah, absolutely. I just want
to hear like a little bit more about it. I
want to hear them talk about the situation, you know,
because it's just like they're picking up hines and hole's

(21:09):
going to be there. They're going to abandon it is
estimate going to get twelve carries and they're gonna see
some hole and then they're going to be ridiculous and
throwing n Hame high Like I don't know, I just estimate.
Ain't that good? Ain't that good? To deserve the whole thing?
So well, I'm thinking about it. I think I am
going to lean into like super anti estimate as we go.

(21:29):
It'll just it'll vibe for me. I mean, you imagine
having your playoff championship hopes on audric estime at this point,
I devo.

Speaker 10 (21:38):
We'll sup one guys, my powerhouse team of high weeks,
six weeks in a row, came to an end, so
that that one's gotten, but luckily have another team still
in the playoffs here, all right, need lex options. This
is PPR. So need two of these four guys. Uh,
Mike Evans, who I assume is definitely going to be
a DeVonta Smith, Terry and then Adie Mitchell.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
So's Terry who's after Mike again? I'm sorry it was
DeVonta Smith.

Speaker 10 (22:10):
Yeah, Terry and Ady Mitchell?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
And you need one more?

Speaker 10 (22:15):
I need well, I need two of the four.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Well, Mike Evans is yeah, he's yeah, he's not even
a He's not even a question here. So it's uh,
this is really Terry or Devanta Smith. You feel really
good about that. Commanders, That is the team. Terry McLaurin,
though that's the name Eagles. That's a defense. Jalen Hurts quarterback,

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though that's a worry.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
QIB two an easy this week. Not a good passer,
he's fine last week, perfect passerating?

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Speaker 2 (23:53):
Hello?

Speaker 11 (23:54):
We got you awesome.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I've got a bit of a two question here.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
So if London plays, would you still rate Pitts over Parkinson?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well that's a Thursday question, so that's illegal. So but no,
so no, Thursday questions. How much do you let me
let me phrase it differently, Erickson, how much do you
like Pitts with London active?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Not very much, not nearly as much. It's I talked
about this on the Prediction Show with Worm. You should
go back and listen to it. He averages like seven
points per game when Drake London's healthy like it's.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
And I think they said too that, like listen, Pitts
was being used as a number one wide receiver, he
was getting the Drake London usage. So yeah, I mean
I think Pitts is like outside of a top ten
tight end, Like he's a lot closer to the who
are the fringy guys we were talking about, Like I.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Think you still I think I'd still start over Parkinson.
It's still a good man for him. He still has
a floor which is pretty solid, but I don't think
he's gonna be like a top three guy or top
five guy.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
Ask a follow up without.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
As long as that's not a Thursday question.

Speaker 11 (25:16):
Okay, So let's say Pitts is sitting on my bench
tonight and London's out, would you play him over Tracy?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
No, I le's still go with the number one running back.
That would be the play I play the play. There
you go, brother, There you go, Cody.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
I was kind of I think I was confused by
that question.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well, like, well, I think what's up dude. I think
it was like, do we if London is out? Do
we think that London that Pitts is such a great
play that you need to play him over predominant flex options?
You know what I'm saying, Like, I think that's where
that was going on.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
But I think I think I would actual change my
answer then I would try to play Pitts if London
is out, but I'm pretty sure when it's playing. So yeah,
I did too.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
He was practicing. He was like a DMP for four
straight week. That that was the one. By the way,
Drick London was the one we were talking about with
are they playing tool? Is that London? When you go
and look and it's actually really cool on the tool
you can go look at his like practice history and
it's just DMPs for last month and he's finally back
into practicing games. I think he's going to play and

(26:20):
I've been pretty steadfast. There's no reason for them to
press him. So when he's active, he should be good.
To go, and it looks like the practice schedule as
well in his favor. But to that point, like Kyle
piss is a monster if London's not there. But I
think you don't have much story about it.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Sorry I mention that I mentioned that. Sorry, I just
I was going to say this one last thing. I
mentioned it on the Prediction show with Warren that Kyle
Pitts had a big game last year against the Buccaneers
n two touchdowns. Next week he had one cash for
eleven yards.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Love it, love it, Love it, Cory. Sorry, buddy, what
you got now?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
You guys are good.

Speaker 12 (26:57):
I hope you're doing well.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Thanks Mad from my r WE two. Thank you so
for RV two.

Speaker 13 (27:04):
I was watching the Week sixteen predictions with Wormley and Ericson,
and I recall Ericson's saying Hampton's going to have a
big game against Dallas this week. So I want to
hear guys' take on Hampton or Harvey coming up.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
What do you think, Ericson? How big is that prediction
of Hampton versus Heart The Harvey injury stuff are being
banged up. I don't particularly love but I am I
gotta say, I am staring at this, and you wonder,
like why there is such a big discrepancy because Hampton
is so good. But the answer to that is, Kamani Videll.

(27:39):
Videll is just he is not going away and he's
taking usage. It's reminiscent of so many other running back situations.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
It's like the.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I'm trying to think of which one I want to use.
Is it like the Menang guy and DeAndre Swift one?
Is it more of like the too Great back system?
I mean like Videll is going to get plus touches,
So to me, Hampton is kind of capped it like
fifteen ish. But is that good enough against the Dallas
Cowboys to go over what should be the predominant workload
for har J Harvey? But it is a tougher matchup.

(28:11):
I'm still leaning RJ. Harvey in there because I think
his touchdown equity is maybe slightly higher, even though it's
a better matchup for Hampton. I just think Hampton's gonna
it's just gonna let go of some downs because Viidell
has been so good. But what do you think, Ericson?
I don't even know who you have higher. And by
the way, ECR is eighteen on Harvey and twenty three
on Hampton.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, so part of the prediction, because we do these
really early in the week, was based on me that
Quinn Williams wouldn't play. So he's been back at practice,
so I don't know if that means he's like officially
clear at the concussion protocol. So that matters pretty substantial
because Dallas, the run Devens hasn't been nearly as bad
when he has been part of that defense since they

(28:56):
traded for him, So I think that might be a
little bit more into Harvey, like you said, where even
though it is kind of a tougher matchup, the Dallas
defense doesn't become nearly as much as a pushover with
Quinton Williams is playing, Bidell does have a big role
in that offense alongside Hampton, so I think maybe I
would have to move Hampton down a couple spots, but

(29:17):
I think it can be ultimately, Hey, if Williams doesn't play,
Fira Hampton, but if it's the ladder, then Harvey's probably
like slightly the lean Was that the only question re
cording or did you have another?

Speaker 14 (29:29):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (29:29):
Yeah, I had one last question. Sure, So I saw
Rice it's not playing to practice today. So I've got
London and mcconkeye on my bench. So I mean, obviously
it's whether London gets clear to play if he does,
or you going London or McConkey.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Oh London, Yeah, where did you? I put London at
six on my ranks? Where did you put americson?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
And I think amazing? Were you were like top ten?
Wherever that ring?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
What would you do if Rice was active and London
was active? Who you have higher? London? I see London, Scott,
I do the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Scott, what's up?

Speaker 1 (30:11):
It's the holidays? An idiot? My brain these shows, these
these shows are like it either like a really enjoyable
listen if you're into me, but like if you're not
into like who I am and like how my brain works,
and these shows are like more of a nightmare. So
I don't know. You got to unmute though, Scott. Otherwise
I'll just keep talking and I'll just I'll be worse,

(30:33):
all right, three two one? Figured it out? Reraise your
hand and I will bring you right back up. And
then as the next person.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Willis, we are we gonna do Wills first.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Ye I already clicked on Willis, Yeah, get here? So
Willis Patrick?

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Willis hear me?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
What up?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Going on?

Speaker 7 (30:51):
Kind of have a similar question to the guy before
with with London, London and Michael Wilson.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
So if London's acted and okay.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
But well hold on, he on if Harrison is also inactive?
If Harrison is inactive, yeah, and Michael will I got
you and Michael Wilson's there anything Harrison?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I still have London.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I have once London one spot higher, but still.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Like, yeah, I mean I probably when he's better. Okay,
let me ask you this also the are they playing?
Tool says Harrison's.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Gonna play so stupid Harrison so sick of him? Well, okay,
because I was gonna ask is there Willis? Do you
have like is there somebody else that could be a
question that you could put Wilson in for if Harrison
was out or is that literally the only like wiggle
room you've got?

Speaker 4 (31:48):
No?

Speaker 8 (31:48):
I also have Ted, I have them him lower, would
put Ted in.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
If if he was at Uh? Are you Michael Wilson
with Harrison over tet or is tetaroa over Michael Wilson?
How are you doing that?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
In any space? You got it. I think you got
a downgrade Michael Wilson significantly like you got. Let's let's
look at his game, walks. Let's play a game of
which game do you think, Marvin Harrison? You your was healthy?
I feel like I'm going to be really good at
this game. Oh yeah, no, this will be fun.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
So let me just real quick, I might absolutely destroy
this game.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Michael Wilson. All right, So let's see we've got So
what do I say? Do I say Harrison's active? Yeah?
You got to tell me if if he's active wide
receiver wide receiver three uh inactive wide receiver thirteen, inactive
wide receiver forty.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Nine hmmm active.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Correct wide receiver two inactive wide receiver seventeen inactive yep?
Could that have been the last five weeks? By the way,
because that's just been the last five weeks. You chose
that's the last five weeks. That's that that was actually
standard too a little. So he was actually wide receiver
fifty the last time marvineers in Junior played. So I

(33:11):
just I get that. It's so good, but and trust me,
like I remember, I was not downgrading Wilson enough in
that first time Harrison because I'm like, man, the kid
with the truth paste back in the tube or whatever
that expression is. And then that's exactly what they did.
They're like, they're like, we're jamming this tooth pace back
up into the tube.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I just you said, Michael Wilson, so good, gang Gang,
Gang Gang. Michael Wilson, so good. Michael Wilson's so good.
I can't. They got to get Marvin Harrison out of
there for me. But yeah, that is what it is,
because Gannon is trash. Someone said, yeah, agreed, all right, Scott,
we'll bring you back up.

Speaker 13 (33:46):
There.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh I see it, unmuted.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
What's up, Scott?

Speaker 6 (33:49):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
How you doing good?

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Man?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I am all right.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
I'm in the PP early going to have in trouble
with my second receiver, and I need one of these guys, Chris,
Jeff Watson, justin Jefferson, George Pickens or Jalen Waddell.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
And any just one correct, correct George Pickens and don't
even look back.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, you gotta you gotta play the upside like Pickens
can score the most points this week.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, and just get That's.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
What I mean. I get that it's been rough the
last couple of weeks. I gotta imagine this guy has
to have at least one big game left and them
before he gets the bag. I mean, I don't know
if they did. He lose the bag these last two
weeks af they're dogging it out there, so I don't know.
It's just he's got too much upside. You can't. I
get it's the Chargers, but I don't think the Chargers
have faced duo like Lamb and Pickens. They're playing at

(34:43):
Jerry World in the dome. Dak Uga plays really well
after a loss anyway, So you just gotta buy Dickens.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Let me ask you something. Let me ask you, buddy,
Justin Jefferson does in this magical little world go off?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Like what does that mean? Though? Like he gets one
hundred yards? He got wide receiver fifteen.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Seven catches, one hundred and twelve yards and a touchdown. Okay, okay,
Like Bogman says, he has to do. What is the
narrative around Justin Jefferson next year? What's the narrative?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Who is he?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Because he is stank, he's cheeks, He's just cheeks. The
last month, JJ McCarthy doesn't know how to get him.
The ball doesn't know how to run an offense that
has one of the best players in the universe, and
then Justin Jefferson goes out smashes this week and then
I'll even throw in his mediocre or bad the rest
of the season. What is the Justin Jefferson narrative in

(35:42):
twenty twenty six?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Who is he?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Top twelve wide receiver, first round pick, second third, overrated?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
He's a He's a by low candidate. That's what I
think it is going to be. I think that. I mean,
what he's doing reminds me a lot. And again it's
been It doesn't line up timeline wise like he did
with some of the other receivers from last year. But
well we're talking about last year. How did Terry start

(36:10):
the year with Jade Daniels. Wasn't great? No, it was
not great. How was Courtland Sutton with bow Nicks first
half of the season. It's pretty bad. Jefferson called JJ
McCarthy on an interview that he did I think like
two weeks ago, and I think this was kind of
like a Freudian slight. He theter called him a rookie quarterback,
which he's not a rookie, but given his experience level,

(36:32):
he missed his entire rookie season. How many starts McCarthy
made the NFL like ten, So I think this is
the classic case of rookie quarterbacks are traditionally bad for
their fantasy wide receivers. And we even saw that when
Carson Wentz was the quarterback during the Vikings, like Jefferson
was better in those games, and I think it's just
a matter of hey, rookie quarterback trying to develop chemistry
with his number one wide receiver hasn't happened in year one,

(36:55):
but just the sample size isn't that big. So I
think that this isn't a case of Kyler is never
going to get Marvin Harrison Junior going because either of
those guys, I think urt Marvin Harrison Junior wasn't established
as one of the best wide receivers in the NFL,
which we know Jefferson has the capability and has been
at one point the best wide receiver in the NFL,
so I would be more optimistic about him in year

(37:17):
two with Jefferson as the full time starter, especially with
Jefferson or excuse me, with McCarthy kind of taking some
steps forward with some of these matchups of the last
couple of games. So I mean, is it gonna be
this week it happens, I don't know, but I mean
eventually he will have a decent game, like you said,
and maybe this this week against the Giants. I'm just scarious.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I'm just scurious what the narrative is going to turn
into when he has a big game he doesn't. I mean,
io be hilarious if it's not this week and then
it's in the championship week against a tougher matchup after
he had three weeks of the world's greatest matchups of
all time. I just think it's funny at this point,
Like it's it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Next week, right, because he's got the Giants and the
Lions next week, So it's got to be one of those.
I mean, an it's got to be two two opportunities
to ladder bad justin Jefferson, Oh my god, yeah, I mean,
I mean, those are going to be fat payouts for
what is it? What do you think is going to
be lower?

Speaker 1 (38:10):
But you said that last week it was like sixty
yards and guess what hasn't done it in three straight weeks.
But that's like my frustration. It's it's that thing right there,
Like we keep going like we're like, he's just got it,
and it's like, yeah, but he hasn't and he's not,
and the quality of targets are bad. And I don't
see a prop up right now. I wanted to see

(38:31):
what it looked like, See if you would ladder it,
see what you're willing to do.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I will say too. And I thought weren't made a
good point with this. Likings are out of the playoffs.
They're evaluating McCarthy, and they've also talked about we want
to get Jefferson one thousand yards. He's got three games left,
He's had eight hundred and thirty two.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yards, you imagine, So like, dude, the.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Targets are there, the air yards are there.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
They just need nine more games than they can get it.
They're so close, nine.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
To moreed just like his alter ego.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Nine nine more games, yeah, exactly, nine more games, and
you can get him to a thousand yards. You can
get one hundred and twenty, all right.

Speaker 14 (39:10):
I just want to actually, okay, actually Jefferson's credit. Look,
we have seen him more than double his yardage output
the less.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Okay, so then you know what forty forty four is
on the docket then.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Tonight that's on this He went from four yards all right,
eleven to twenty.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Two, So Betty under this week and.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
The targets have come up every single or no, actually
that's not right. No, he did have he did double
his targets last week before. Yeah, the he double his
catches too. No, he's stuck at two and two.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Two just two. I mean, no one's gonna care. No,
no one's on my side with any of this anyways,
who cares?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Let's go to X. What does X scott for us? X?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Go and give it to you Premium member Fantasy Pros
discord A plus person. Cute dog in the picture, Jimes,
I'd love justin Jos defender of him X are you
coming up?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Three? Two?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
One bag sold? Yeah, we asked if you want until then? Ronan,
what's up?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
All right?

Speaker 15 (40:18):
Well?

Speaker 2 (40:18):
No, hold on yeah, yeah, hold on running. I Devo
had this in the chat. I think it's worth growing
out here by hold cell the Grinch, Rudolph Frosty Snowman.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Oh, I know where I stand here. But is it
Frosty from the creepy like forties cartoon or just like
natural versions? Okay, much better? Uh, so by what is
it buy cell.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Hold French Rudolph frost Ye not the other version? Oh yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I was like, are we are we marrying them?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Bye?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
So all right, I'm going to buy the Grinch, hold
Frosty and and get rid of Rudolph. Rudolph's trash.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I can't make it, so I'm gonna buy Grinch. I
will hold Rudolph sells I think frost.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
So we're both buying You think Frosty's trash? What is
it about that reindeer?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
What does he have to even do with holidays? He's
just a snowman that comes to life for a day.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
What does the deer have to do with holidays?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
That's at least and they were able to deliver the
presence with.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
A fake nose.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
He's like, hey, are eybody? Arm rude off? Now that's now.
He teaches you about why bullying is wrong, a lot
of life lessons, it's okay to be different, you can
rise above that, and how you can use your differences
to be awesome.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
So, yeah, that's a great question. I'm I'm glad we
I'm glad we stopped for it. It was a very good one.
But we both bought the Grench though, because Grench is elite.
All the versions of the Grench too, by the way,
shout out to the Grench for being anim made it good.
And then Jim Carrey, good, did you see the thing?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Last thing?

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Twenty million dollars Jim Carrey got for that role, and
when he found out about the makeup he want, he
asked to give the money back because he didn't want
to do it. Can you imagine twenty three hours of makeup?
You can put me? I mean, I guess that's you know,
me saying that because I don't make millions of dollars.
Do whatever you want? You imagine like, oh, I don't
want the twenty million dollars because I don't want to

(42:24):
be uncomfortable. Zip it running? What's up? Sell?

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Gentle?

Speaker 1 (42:30):
We're doing great man? Which one for you? Which one
are you buying? Frosty or No? Which one gets sold?
Frosty or Rudolph?

Speaker 6 (42:38):
Oh Frosty all deck?

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Oh right, okay, I guess I gotta I gotta do that.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
All right? What's what?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Do you got?

Speaker 6 (42:45):
A couple quick ones here? Who's the start for the defense?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Casey New Orleans or Philly.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Let's look at ECR I think I like Casey, Yeah,
that's Casey is the rank the highest Yeather three, Phillies,
four New Orleans is five. Okay, so that's pretty solid.
That was easy enough there. Streaming defenses, babe.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I love when everyone asks like now it's the playoffs,
it's like which defense which kicker? Haven't asked these questions
all year long, but now I'm like, I need to
know the exact even and it's you know, it's an
element of fun, and I always think about, like, man,
why are we not thinking about this throughout the entire season.
It's just like, I don't know. I just think it's
kind of funny that we get like even more into
like what got aim every defense perfectly? But hey, do

(43:31):
you ever whatever edge it takes, well.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Whatever edge, let's go back to X. If X got
something for us, you're gonna give it to us. X
gonna give it to us. It looks like not you
got to accept the invite. We've been invited you to
the thing. You have to say yes.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
X, egg boyd boy, love me some egg boy.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
All right, you gotta figure it out X, and then
we'll bring you back up. This is gonna be one
of those things where it's going to be like the
end of the show, will the will we convert the down?
It actually makes it very exciting. So, Polestar, what's up?
Microphone's not working? Polestar, O man, Polestar, just go into

(44:23):
your settings and check your audio and then raise your
hands and we will try to get you back on.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Bobby Be.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
What's a Bobby Be?

Speaker 1 (44:31):
What's up?

Speaker 12 (44:32):
Well, X definitely didn't give it to you, but I got.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
A question you let's hear it you guys.

Speaker 12 (44:39):
I kind of came in a little late.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Do you guys talk about we do not Thursday?

Speaker 15 (44:44):
No?

Speaker 12 (44:44):
Not Thursday?

Speaker 13 (44:45):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
What was the I'm sorry then I interrupted you?

Speaker 2 (44:47):
What was the ask?

Speaker 12 (44:48):
Do you guys talk about like Tyler Warren replacements or
anything yet?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
We have not. Is that is that the question?

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Or you want to be more specific?

Speaker 12 (44:55):
Yeah, that's a little bit more specific. I was thinking
about riding some Darren Waller there, but with the new
QB change, I don't know how everyone feels about that.
And then you know, maybe like a Loveland or a
Theo Johnson or something like that.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
What do you think so Loveland?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, yeah, I was aboud to say that's the only
one that I like out of that list. Do want
to point out the forty nine ers not great against
tight ends right now, and a little bit more in
the offense that I don't hate hate Tyler Loveland, but
I think Colson. I'm sorry, Tyler Warren, but I think
Colson Lovelin has like the best upside right now. But
you go ahead, Errickson, No.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I think I think Loveln's played. We just got official
word of like thirty minutes ago. Burden and No dudes,
they're both out. So look, this is something Maybe this
is kind of like calling my shot here, but if
you look at Loveland's box scores and game logs, it
looks a kind it looks very simi of the Harold
Fannin's box scores. We're just like three for forty, four
for forty, like consistently hitting a floor and then the

(45:52):
minute that one guy misses, he just blows up. Loveland
is super talented player. He's the first round, but he
was picked before our Warren was. So it's a matchup
that we've already seen him establish four against the Packers,
who are kind of reeling a bit on defense and injuries.
Ben Johnson's been the lab this week with Loveland, Like,

(46:13):
I feel like this could be a big game for
him and he's already established, like at worst case four
for forty Okay, you can take that. That's not going
to kill you. So I think Loveland is one of
the top streamers.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
I agree, I completely. It's a great question. More questions
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(46:47):
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it looks like we're ending, but we still have a
little bit more time. Ericson you're still good. Yeah, you
get some of these Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got
some of the people here. But let's see. We can
get back to Pollstar, see if he's got that fixed.
Oh and then I think we got to go back

(47:28):
to X. What's up Polestar? Does your ah mind doesn't work? Still?
There's nothing we can do in these spots, but there's
like an area where you can go and test in
the settings, you can go test your audio. You might
have to do that.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Let's go to X.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Let's see if X go and give it to us.
Part three. You guys are not accepting, all right, that's
third down, X. It's fourth down coming up if you're
gonna try it again. So I don't know the Let's.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Go to egg boy. What's some egg Boy.

Speaker 15 (48:04):
Let's see if eggs gon and give it to you.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Can you hear eggs got it?

Speaker 15 (48:10):
I'll just ask the tight end question of all tight
end questions.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
This weekend.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Next week, I.

Speaker 15 (48:14):
Guess Parkinson, Loveland, Warren anyone, Like, what do you what
are you we thinking for you're saying for week seventeen.
I guess for this week and then maybe as a
stash for next week too. I can carry two of them,
and I have Warren, and yeah, I've Warren already on
my team, but it's not looking hot.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah, I mean, because we don't do the Thursday questions here, Like,
I think I probably will most likely have Parkinson probably
still higher next week, I think as well without because
I'm assuming DeVonta Adams will also not play next week,
so that would probably be the overall arching one. But Loveland,
I got knowing. I think those two are super close.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yeah, I know that Parkinson's matchup next week isn't as great.
It's against Atlanta, who's been pretty good against tight ends
this year, so that's something to kind of key in mind. Loveland.
I mean, I don't think I do is coming back
and he's playing the forty nine ers, Like talking about
a game that could get Nutty Bears at Niners, especially

(49:11):
if Loven comes off a big game against Man. Dude,
I want to move love them up so high in
my ranking.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Like, where do you have him right it?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Dude? I like, yeah, I got him at twelve and
it's like like why why can't I start him over?
Hell Fan like they should see similar volume and he's
not one of them. Is off facing the Bills. I
do think hell Fannon is like a legit kind of
like a sid this week, to be honest, like, I

(49:39):
feel like there's a lot of better streamers than him.
The Bills matchup is brutal. I'm really the only guy
that's beaten the Bills was Mike Seki, but he plays
slot like he's a glorified slot receiver, not really a
tight end. So Fannin concerns me. And then Juwan Johnson
consumes like he's like set up pretty well too, there's
no baile. Yeah, I like him too facing the Jets.

(50:03):
Jets are terrible all over their defense, so man like
and Gadston too talking about him in the ranking show,
I think he's kind of interesting. His matchup sucks next week, though,
so it's really him is week sixteen. I think Jowan
Johnson has another good matchup two next week, so he
said Parkinson lovely Loveland, I think, dude, I think I'd

(50:26):
rather have London for Loveland for the next two weeks.
I'm doing that because if he hits against the Packers, Dude,
this could be like, oh, this rookie Titan is like
breaking out all over the place, and you want him
in your lineup against the forty nine ers. So did
you say the forty niners have been better against tight ends? No,
they're not. Well.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
When Fred Warner was alive, then they were great, but
now they struggle.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, So I think Loveland is like
the full blown upside play where it's weird. You know,
this season, it seems like some of these rookies have
kind of like fallen off where usually we see rookies
kind of hit at the end of the season where
it's like, oh, it's rookies breaking out. But you know,
we got so many early breakouts from these rookies that
they kind of like instead hit the rookie wall, which

(51:09):
is like not ideal. So maybe Loveln is the one
that's like, hey, he is the rookie that breaks out
at the end of the season, where we saw a
lot of guys peak so much earlier. So I think Loven'
is probably the stash guy, and I don't think this
week he's like such a worse play than some of
the other guys. I think there's just a it's a
pretty strong like streaming tear this particular week. Now, it's
easy to say that and then one guy pops off
and the other guys all suck. But if you're doing

(51:32):
both weeks, I think Lovelin probably has the most upside
over the next two games.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Hay Boy also said Waddle or Robinson one Dale, I'm
terrified of Wattle this week. Yeah, I go Wandale as well. Uh,
picking up our two guys that couldn't get on. Pollstar
said flex question Aaron Jones or Estimate instead of Judkins,
Javont Jennings. Absolutely not. I want Judkins, Yavante and Jennings

(52:00):
before I want either one of those two guys. And
if I was if I had to have a replacement,
it'd be Aaron Jones over Estimate.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah. Yes, I would do Aaron Jones over probably probably Judkins.
I'd probably put Aaron Jones in over You.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Would actually do that, or you're saying if you had to, like,
you would put Aaron Jones in over Jetkins right now?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
No, But if this person is convinced, I don't want
to start like judging Gotcha Jennings like Aaron Jones would
be the next bet not estimate to your point. Gotcha again,
You're you're the one that is the voice of reason
when it comes to oddric estimate. Again, I'll be fully transparent.
It's this is a shoot for the moon type of
play because of the Jets matchup. Like if he's playing

(52:43):
any other defense, he's like not on the radar, But
there's no floor when it comes to what kind of
usage you get. Like I know that it's it's kind
of like fun to talk about, but I mean, this
could theoretically be the taste of Hill game that we
thought could happen like eight weeks ago, where like, oh
we're Sadea's taste a hell of a time this week
and screw everyone over that decided to play out your estimatey.

(53:04):
So like that's just something you have to be concerned about.
But I think there's a real ceiling with estimate. If
he does get the work, it is the Jets and
they've given up five straight top ten RB finishes, so
there's upside there. But I think he's more of a
flex play than like a lotoloaded RB two to your
point about let's pump the brakes, maybe a Tatty.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, I just don't. I just don't trust the volume. Yeah,
I just the volume is not what I don't trust.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
And then X said Joe Burrow or Brock Purty six
point passing touchdown League. And then there's another little side
question and then we'll get our last couple ones and
we'll get out of here. Burrow over Purty.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
But it's super close, right, I think I think Burrow's
just good.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, you thought you said dominated. And then pick two
full PPR. DJ Moore read or like Buka, So kill
one of them, probably J Moore, I just don't trust you,
J Warre. I put a Buka both for both of them.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
EJ Moore at Buka. Who's the last guy?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I gotta go back to it.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
DJ more Reid, Dude, when when Fitz dropped that stat
at Reid has one game with double disson targets, I
almost fell out of my chair. I messaged him after
the show because I was like, dude, how is this
even possible? And I looked it up. You know, he
had eight catches for twenty seven yards in that game.

(54:27):
I think I I think I would probably no man, like,
do you think who is who? Do you think is
a higher ceiling more or read more? Yeah? So then
I mean he showed it last week.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yeah, I have no problem with that.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I think I think I think yeah again whenever I'm
like torn, I was just trying to ask myself, okay,
like which guy has the highest ceiling?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Wind got like I don't care about floors, like whatever.
But More showed last week two touchdowns and Reid has
just been capped in this offense for basically his entire career.
So last couple on the voice Crown, what's up Crown?

Speaker 11 (55:01):
Hey, how's it going good? So I had a kind
of like a two phase question I'm contemplating with the
Loveland and a Door, I mean the Donesday and burden
that that playing DJ more over Davante Smith as my
first question, and then my second question is just with
the Rain on the Thursday night game. The opponent I'm
going up against has Matthew Stafford, JSN and Pooka, so like,

(55:25):
I kind of want to hear your takes on the
Rain game. And then I'm also have Myers as my
kicker in that game, should I drop him and pick
up I can get like Elliott from the The Eagles
as my kicker.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
We both shake our head down. We don't do Thursday
questions on here, so we have no opinions on the
Thursday games for this show. But on the first part
of the question.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I would start. Davante Smith over, Yeah, I would. Also,
we can briefly hit on Thursday after we stop recording.
You really want to?

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah, just never while we're recording hundred percent? Uh dark Yoda?
Last two here?

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Hey, guys have a three running vaccine to start.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
I got Javante Williams, Bucky, Chaser, Travian.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Say again Bucky, Javante, Travion, and who Chase? Oh, I'm
I'm chasing Bucky.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I think I'm I think he said start three. Oh,
so we just sit one? Is it? Yes? You gotta
set one? So Bucky's in? Chase is in?

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Or do you want to? I was thinking bench Travion.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
I think I'm bench Chase. I come back to the like.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Whole what is your upside play that you need to do?

Speaker 2 (56:48):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Like, if you need the upside? Travion Henderson over Chase Brown. Yep,
you want corese stuff. I probably keep Chase Brown in there.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
And then the other guy was Davonte. Jonta is definitely in, Bucky,
He's definitely in.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
And if jamont is out because he's hurt, and your
question is already answered. So so what's your it's a
rank it then.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
I mean, right now I have it, Bucky, Jamonte, Travion,
excuse me, Bucky, Javonte, Chase Brown, Travion. Yeah's last, And
that was what we were leaning.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Unless you need upside, then get Travion in and maybe
bench Chase Brown. Boom right, I think, yeah, it sucks.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I don't want to bench Travion, but just based on
the workload, Chase Brown catches so many passes.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Yeah, all right, last one? Uh big bamsel bams just.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Big, big b big.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Oh going on.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Oh there we go.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Hey guys, can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
We got you man?

Speaker 4 (57:48):
All right?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Thanks for all helpless season. Actually in my championship this
week starting out, and are we only playing McBride or
Kittle over Bowers looking to maybe get like a big
swing off someone else.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
I mean technically I'm saying it, yeah, yeah, because we
both think London's gonna play and that brings Kyle Pitts down. Yes,
but we don't feel great about it. But you know,
he's just like a like a floor play. But I
just don't know if there's a lot of guys under him,
that's like, oh my gosh, this is the big you know,
I'm gonna spring for dot dot dot, like because we

(58:32):
know the Bowers is just gonna get a lot of volume.
I think you have to just plug your nose and
put Bowers out there.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Right. Yeah, he's also getting Gino back to like that
matters a lot. Ye, Yes, we saw last we saw
the downgrade quarterback last week. I think that was kind
of a hell against Bowers a little bit where well
he had Kenny Pickett as his quarterback, like he's a backup.
So Gino back not playing outdoors at Philly again at Houston. Still,
I mean, obviously it's I want to say, better defense,

(59:00):
but we're playing indoors and I mean, you know, I
was just gonna sling it to Brock Bowers fifteen times.
I'll take my chance. But so I mean, I think
early in the week I said, like Pits over Bowers.
But with Draking on and back, just go right back
to Bowers. He's too good. He's too good a player
man like.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Yeah, too healthy, too healthy, Lowest, too healthy, too healthy.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Bowers. All right, that is it.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I think potentially uh for the ear by the way,
I just don't I think they said this. I just
see Tom pelisar reporting as we're recording this. So Dune
say M Burden both rolled out, officially rolled out. So
but I think this is the last, at least for
the regular season of the uh of the extra point
that we've got for this year. I might be over speaking,
we might be backing with some other capacities. But you

(59:43):
know we're not back next week because it's a Christmas week.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
So hopefully we got you guys covered.

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